OP needs to remember that while her parents are telling her she needs to be a good Christian and stand by her husband in his time of need yet, they kicked out ops sister when she got pregnant out of wedlock. Where were there strong Christian beliefs then.
If their daughter had died or been hospitalized, they wouldn’t be saying that. What’s worse is everybody at church and family didn’t do nothing. To be fair though, they probably didn’t believe her because all these other women making false accusations all the time
Do yourself a favor. Don’t date anyone in the mental hospital. You already have to deal with yourself and the other person has their issues to deal with too. Spend that time working on yourself.
She meets a guy in a rehabilitation centre for DV victims Not in a mental hospital. She said none of them (both DV victims) are ready to date Both show a mature approach to their situation
People who honors Christ with their lips but deny him with their actions aren't real Christians. Being a Christian isn't about going to church on Sunday. It is about living your life in such a way that you draw people to Christ by example. If any man every treated mu daughter that way, then may God have mercy on him because I will not.
Even though im atheist, this is why religion is just poison. The help that they say god would send literally exists as humans are the creation of god’s help. But people dont think this shit and will disobey the word of the lord of helping others in need, ignore that violence against neighbor and love one is a sin. Including animal abuse and lack of acknowledgment of animals being a creation of god. The one who is truly Christian is the grandma, sister, and bil
I wish people would expose these so called Christians. Putting their behaviour on full blast with proof like videos is the only way people will see that awful behaviour. I hope op is safe and has a good life without her ex.
So true. Forgiveness is about not eating yourself up with hate and resentment and requires nothing from the offender. Reconciliation requires confession, repentance, and penance/amends and some evidence that you will be safe in their presence. Much more rare
You also don't have to or don't owe the wrong doers any forgiveness at all either. People are perfectly fine living without forgiving the A-hole. The A'holes tend to think that if you forgive them then ur okay with putting up with their crap.
I’m Catholic, and getting a divorce and annulment is a huge thing, since we believe that when you marry, both souls merge to become one. But I have worked with Catholic charities helping abuse victims and protecting them. And the Church will grant divorce/annulment if there’s abuse, especially spousal violence mentally or physically etc., because God wishes for no one to endure abuse from the one person they’re supposed to trust. People like the two families aren’t Christians, and are themselves walking their way into hell.
"You took vows." SO DID HE!!! And he BROKE THEM. Everything is now Null n Void, marrige OVER. The fact that folks like this still exist are beyond disgusting and nerve-wrecking and give Christianity such a bad name.
I have never been religious and the more I learn about it the more I want nothing to do with it. the self-righteous hypocrisy, emotional blackmail, coercive control, misanthropy, ableism, racism, and sexism. Marx was right about one thing at least it is an opium theism promises relief but only makes sufferings so much worse.
"... it's your Christian duty not to divorce..." It's also your duty to love, protect and nurture your loved ones...not abandon, hurt, and cheat on them! It's every Christians duty to forgive but it's not your duty to forget. You need to hold those who commit bad actions accountable. This man promised to get help how many times to get better going to rehab/therapy? How many chances does he need until it gets through to him? How many times is his family going to forgive and forget? What will happen if his own daughter is under his car wheels?! Is everyone going to forgive and forget then? Are ops family going to chastise her for being upset then? A line needs to be drawn.
My fam is Christian and they don’t accept any form of abuse. We believe in divorcing if necessary. Op, everyone but you sister and grandparents failed you.
I am a Christian. I consider divorces a sin. Marriage is a sacred institution and should not be ended lightly. I also recognize the three As of divorce, adultery, addiction and abuse. Once a spouse engages in one or more of these, they have already broken their marriage vows. The marriage is already dead, the divorce is just the funeral.
the point they were trying to make is that divorce without one or more of the three As involved is a sin. not divorce as a whole@@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289 Someone who divorces their spouse for stupid AH reasons is committing sin. So when my grandmother was hit by Pololio, her father walked on on her and her mother because he didn't want to be burdened with a disabled child. That's sinful.
It's not about forgiveness. I'm Christian, you can forgive someone while still understanding that you can't help someone who won't help themselves. I'm all for second chances but his behavior keeps sliding back. You can't make someone get clean, the best way to support them is to leave them and pray for them. As a parent you also need to think about what's best for your child. If he wanted his family back he needed to first earn that. Her dog being killed was a sign from God that she needed to protect herself and her baby. What the mother told her daughter is not Christian beliefs. The bible states that women should obey their husbands in all things but also says that the husband should love his wife more than he loves his own body. He failed to honor the commitments of marriage, he failed to be a good man, husband and father. He destroyed the love she had for him with years of abuse and even when he tries to show he changed he immediately shows it's a mask.
I always find it funny that people who use Religion no matter what it is, are usually the most sinful of them all. Like they screaming bible verses because after all if I pray all the time then my sins will be cleansed or something.
Why didn’t OP call the police for DA? I always wonder why it’s only the woman’s “Christian” duty to follow her vows and never the husband’s? Didn’t he vow to also treat her well and cherish and protect her? Where did those vows go?
Religious that person is full of it if that person is saying divorce is a Sin those people wanna quote the bible Luke 17:3-4, Matthew 5:44). And nowhere in the Bible are we instructed to continue on in an abusive, unhealthy, toxic relationship The Bible says that God hates abuse, viewing it as sinful and unacceptable and “delights in rescuing the oppressed” (2 Sam. 22:49). In the first, Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32). So those religions persons talking about sin even knowing that op is in an abusive relationship can shove it And who ever out there in an abusive relationship if they quote the bible show this verse and tell them to shove where the sun don't shine
Im not even Christian, but i do understand basic logic, and while divorce is frowned on in Christianity, adultery is literally one of the ten commandments which are like the worst of actions to commit according to the religion. I find it hilarious how christians pick and choose and ignore their own laws and rules.
I can sympathise with victims. But if understanding, sympathising and all do not cut it, then tough love is needed. The victim knowing that s/he is weak is one thing. Staying too weak and stupid for so long despite having a brain is another. A person needs to be strong for one's self. More so, for that person's child or children if s/he has one or more. Too, we need support, yes. But after all the tears and feeling lost, concern for whoever is trying to be strong for the victim should also be considered. One must choose to be strong, mindful and careful so that the process of healing and learning to stand up for yourself is less painful and shorter -- both for the victim and his/her support system.
Some women stay out of love, thinking if they weather the storm, there will be sun. Some women stay for financial stability, because we live in an economy that makes it hard to stay afloat in a single income household. Some women stay so their children can have a father, not believing in their worth as a single parent. Some women stay because their children love their father. Some women stay because they share a pet, and they will most likely kill that pet if they try to leave, or they will have to leave the pet behind where it will get beaten in their place. Some women stay because they're afraid, like my sister did. He threatened to kill us if she left him, because they had a child together and she had uncovered some dark secrets about him that he wanted to take to the grave. They found him with a gun in his mother's bathtub after he had murdered my sister, but she was trying to leave. She had her own apartment, her own space, she was going to leave the state. Why would you EVER reduce and minimize such a real problem to: "the dick isn't that good 🙄🤭💞"
The abuser can mentally break a person. But I was able to get away from it and I took my child with me. I am slowly getting back to me before him everyday I have a good guy now who helps.
Scripture prohibits drunkenness, not drinking. If a Christian chooses to consume alcohol, they should do so with moderation and self-control. So i guess the ex husband had let the devil take over a while ago 😂
And no I'm not affiliated with these disgusting parents. I'm just sharing my beleifs. I don't blame op at all for the divorce, he started with the dog but who knows who would've been next, op, her daughter, a random good Samaritan hearing them scream for help. Btw, the second you believe the Gospel (1 corinthians 15:1-4), your saved and sealed till the day of redemption. You don't have to be sinless or change to get saved, that's putting the cart before the horse. Change most often comes after you get saved.
And no I'm not affiliated with these disgusting parents. I'm just sharing my beleifs. I don't blame op at all for the divorce, he started with the dog but who knows who would've been next, op, her daughter, a random good Samaritan hearing them scream for help. Btw, the second you believe the Gospel (1 corinthians 15:1-4), your saved and sealed till the day of redemption. You don't have to be sinless or change to get saved, that's putting the cart before the horse. Change most often comes after you get saved.
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"he saw me in my weakest moment"
he was also the cause for half of them.
OP needs to remember that while her parents are telling her she needs to be a good Christian and stand by her husband in his time of need yet, they kicked out ops sister when she got pregnant out of wedlock. Where were there strong Christian beliefs then.
If their daughter had died or been hospitalized, they wouldn’t be saying that. What’s worse is everybody at church and family didn’t do nothing. To be fair though, they probably didn’t believe her because all these other women making false accusations all the time
Op is going through her own detox. I hope she stays strong for herself and her daughter.
"I must add both of our families are extremely religious."
Now it makes sense.
"I'll fight you like a steanger in the streets."
The sister is a real gem. 💎
Do yourself a favor. Don’t date anyone in the mental hospital. You already have to deal with yourself and the other person has their issues to deal with too. Spend that time working on yourself.
She meets a guy in a rehabilitation centre for DV victims Not in a mental hospital.
She said none of them (both DV victims) are ready to date Both show a mature approach to their situation
hypocrite religious people story i enjoy it
They never want to use the word “cult” but that’s what it is.
Plenty of us Christians aren’t cult members, but we don’t pretend that for many/most, it is. Even I went “bet they’re Christians.”
There is no hate quite like "christian love"
That's fucking true, 😂
The 8 million dead in the 30 years war is proof of your claim
Fact!
It’s why I walked away from religion for good.
People who honors Christ with their lips but deny him with their actions aren't real Christians. Being a Christian isn't about going to church on Sunday. It is about living your life in such a way that you draw people to Christ by example. If any man every treated mu daughter that way, then may God have mercy on him because I will not.
So he refises divorce. Ok we stay married but wont live together
In some states you can file a divorce in absentee. Which is also ckntempt of court depending on the state and the judge
Even though im atheist, this is why religion is just poison. The help that they say god would send literally exists as humans are the creation of god’s help. But people dont think this shit and will disobey the word of the lord of helping others in need, ignore that violence against neighbor and love one is a sin. Including animal abuse and lack of acknowledgment of animals being a creation of god. The one who is truly Christian is the grandma, sister, and bil
Some people just use it to be an a-hole. My family (at least my mom) are religious, but don’t abuse the meanings of bible verses to be an a- hole
I wish people would expose these so called Christians. Putting their behaviour on full blast with proof like videos is the only way people will see that awful behaviour. I hope op is safe and has a good life without her ex.
people don't get you can forgive someone doesn't mean you have to have them in your life
Man spit that Truth!!!
So true. Forgiveness is about not eating yourself up with hate and resentment and requires nothing from the offender. Reconciliation requires confession, repentance, and penance/amends and some evidence that you will be safe in their presence. Much more rare
Forgiveness means letting go of the emotions. It doesn't mean everything is hunkydory. Still keep those toxic people out.
You also don't have to or don't owe the wrong doers any forgiveness at all either. People are perfectly fine living without forgiving the A-hole. The A'holes tend to think that if you forgive them then ur okay with putting up with their crap.
That’s what a preacher of mine said
I’m Catholic, and getting a divorce and annulment is a huge thing, since we believe that when you marry, both souls merge to become one. But I have worked with Catholic charities helping abuse victims and protecting them. And the Church will grant divorce/annulment if there’s abuse, especially spousal violence mentally or physically etc., because God wishes for no one to endure abuse from the one person they’re supposed to trust. People like the two families aren’t Christians, and are themselves walking their way into hell.
"You took vows." SO DID HE!!! And he BROKE THEM. Everything is now Null n Void, marrige OVER. The fact that folks like this still exist are beyond disgusting and nerve-wrecking and give Christianity such a bad name.
The most "Christian" people are the most apart from the path of their "god".
Stories like is the reason people hate cults.
Agreed.
I have never been religious and the more I learn about it the more I want nothing to do with it. the self-righteous hypocrisy, emotional blackmail, coercive control, misanthropy, ableism, racism, and sexism. Marx was right about one thing at least it is an opium theism promises relief but only makes sufferings so much worse.
"... it's your Christian duty not to divorce..."
It's also your duty to love, protect and nurture your loved ones...not abandon, hurt, and cheat on them!
It's every Christians duty to forgive but it's not your duty to forget. You need to hold those who commit bad actions accountable.
This man promised to get help how many times to get better going to rehab/therapy? How many chances does he need until it gets through to him? How many times is his family going to forgive and forget? What will happen if his own daughter is under his car wheels?! Is everyone going to forgive and forget then? Are ops family going to chastise her for being upset then?
A line needs to be drawn.
RIP Fido
My fam is Christian and they don’t accept any form of abuse. We believe in divorcing if necessary.
Op, everyone but you sister and grandparents failed you.
I am a Christian. I consider divorces a sin. Marriage is a sacred institution and should not be ended lightly. I also recognize the three As of divorce, adultery, addiction and abuse. Once a spouse engages in one or more of these, they have already broken their marriage vows. The marriage is already dead, the divorce is just the funeral.
So then having a divorce is not a sin then.. wtf try to make some sense atleast
the point they were trying to make is that divorce without one or more of the three As involved is a sin. not divorce as a whole@@happilyevernever4289
@happilyevernever4289
Someone who divorces their spouse for stupid AH reasons is committing sin. So when my grandmother was hit by Pololio, her father walked on on her and her mother because he didn't want to be burdened with a disabled child. That's sinful.
Abby is a blessing
Wow. If OP never said they were Christian I would have thought this was from Pakistan.
"It's just a dog"
That line didn't work on John Wick either.
Just got to the part with Ryan and realized we have the same backstory lol
Christian Doody 😂
Christian Diarrhea
It's not about forgiveness. I'm Christian, you can forgive someone while still understanding that you can't help someone who won't help themselves. I'm all for second chances but his behavior keeps sliding back. You can't make someone get clean, the best way to support them is to leave them and pray for them. As a parent you also need to think about what's best for your child. If he wanted his family back he needed to first earn that. Her dog being killed was a sign from God that she needed to protect herself and her baby. What the mother told her daughter is not Christian beliefs. The bible states that women should obey their husbands in all things but also says that the husband should love his wife more than he loves his own body. He failed to honor the commitments of marriage, he failed to be a good man, husband and father. He destroyed the love she had for him with years of abuse and even when he tries to show he changed he immediately shows it's a mask.
Yup figure out to stay nc these characters are so toxic you deserve better people i your life
A prime example as to why religion is such a dangerous thing to get into!
I always find it funny that people who use Religion no matter what it is, are usually the most sinful of them all. Like they screaming bible verses because after all if I pray all the time then my sins will be cleansed or something.
Why didn’t OP call the police for DA? I always wonder why it’s only the woman’s “Christian” duty to follow her vows and never the husband’s? Didn’t he vow to also treat her well and cherish and protect her? Where did those vows go?
Sister and her husband inlaws really said 🗿🗿🗿
Religious that person is full of it if that person is saying divorce is a Sin those people wanna quote the bible
Luke 17:3-4, Matthew 5:44). And nowhere in the Bible are we instructed to continue on in an abusive, unhealthy, toxic relationship
The Bible says that God hates abuse, viewing it as sinful and unacceptable and “delights in rescuing the oppressed” (2 Sam. 22:49).
In the first, Matthew quotes Jesus as saying: “It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, except on the grounds of porneia (sexual immorality), makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 5:31-32).
So those religions persons talking about sin even knowing that op is in an abusive relationship can shove it
And who ever out there in an abusive relationship if they quote the bible show this verse and tell them to shove where the sun don't shine
The book of contradictions.
Im not even Christian, but i do understand basic logic, and while divorce is frowned on in Christianity, adultery is literally one of the ten commandments which are like the worst of actions to commit according to the religion. I find it hilarious how christians pick and choose and ignore their own laws and rules.
I can sympathise with victims. But if understanding, sympathising and all do not cut it, then tough love is needed. The victim knowing that s/he is weak is one thing. Staying too weak and stupid for so long despite having a brain is another. A person needs to be strong for one's self. More so, for that person's child or children if s/he has one or more. Too, we need support, yes. But after all the tears and feeling lost, concern for whoever is trying to be strong for the victim should also be considered. One must choose to be strong, mindful and careful so that the process of healing and learning to stand up for yourself is less painful and shorter -- both for the victim and his/her support system.
I dont understand how these women can allow abuse to happen to themselves and their children, just because of what is between someone legs.
Some women stay out of love, thinking if they weather the storm, there will be sun.
Some women stay for financial stability, because we live in an economy that makes it hard to stay afloat in a single income household.
Some women stay so their children can have a father, not believing in their worth as a single parent.
Some women stay because their children love their father.
Some women stay because they share a pet, and they will most likely kill that pet if they try to leave, or they will have to leave the pet behind where it will get beaten in their place.
Some women stay because they're afraid, like my sister did. He threatened to kill us if she left him, because they had a child together and she had uncovered some dark secrets about him that he wanted to take to the grave. They found him with a gun in his mother's bathtub after he had murdered my sister, but she was trying to leave. She had her own apartment, her own space, she was going to leave the state.
Why would you EVER reduce and minimize such a real problem to: "the dick isn't that good 🙄🤭💞"
Internalized and externalized misogyny
Then you have no idea what it's like to be abused.
The abuser can mentally break a person. But I was able to get away from it and I took my child with me. I am slowly getting back to me before him everyday I have a good guy now who helps.
What are you talking about !!! Lmao
Scripture prohibits drunkenness, not drinking. If a Christian chooses to consume alcohol, they should do so with moderation and self-control. So i guess the ex husband had let the devil take over a while ago 😂
And no I'm not affiliated with these disgusting parents. I'm just sharing my beleifs. I don't blame op at all for the divorce, he started with the dog but who knows who would've been next, op, her daughter, a random good Samaritan hearing them scream for help. Btw, the second you believe the Gospel (1 corinthians 15:1-4), your saved and sealed till the day of redemption. You don't have to be sinless or change to get saved, that's putting the cart before the horse. Change most often comes after you get saved.
Evangelicals behavior
Day 47 of telling secretvoices to have a good day
Christianity can be used by toxic people to gaslight you, it’s the relationship between God & you, not between the church & you!
this story: Reasons to be an Atheist Episode 1439
Those are self proclaimed Christians they're more than likely not going to heaven
first
And no I'm not affiliated with these disgusting parents. I'm just sharing my beleifs. I don't blame op at all for the divorce, he started with the dog but who knows who would've been next, op, her daughter, a random good Samaritan hearing them scream for help. Btw, the second you believe the Gospel (1 corinthians 15:1-4), your saved and sealed till the day of redemption. You don't have to be sinless or change to get saved, that's putting the cart before the horse. Change most often comes after you get saved.