I'm not sure that a narcissist will stick around with counciling for six sessions. Because in their mind, there's nothing wrong with them, "you're the one that needs help"🙄🙄.
Love that it's "the experience" and not "the issues" that's a great way to not stay a victim!! However I kinda don't think this was "now". Pretty sure this is in the past. Probably over a year ago. Why? Because she doesn't have her engagement ring on, or her wedding band(It's pretty huge! hard to miss ~ 💍 So yeah she's done this recording over a year ago. OR God forbid 😣, this is new and she's fallen into another unhealthy relationship with her new husband --which I DO NOT THINK that is the case.
Thank you again for speaking into our lives with insight & truth. Please pray that God would lead me to a qualified & trustworthy Christian counselor. I need a safe place to share the heartbreak of a hurtful relationship. ❤
It came to me as Lisa began to bring her experience in, that something to remember about people in destructive relationships are made to feel crazy (as she’s stated), & often, there’s months or years of this programming & tearing down of. More often than not, they don’t know how to determine who is wise council because they no longer trust THEMSELVES & their own judgment! So they stay quiet & alone. Idk if we’ll get there in this episode but wanted to type it out.
Thank you so much for the information shared in all of your videos and podcasts. One thing Lisa says often in her communications is the importance of having wise counsel and a qualified Christian counselor to work through trauma and/or severely damaging relationships. Lisa often mentions how she doesn’t think she could have made it through her emotional journey (betrayal, loss, narcissism,etc.) without Jim, Joel, and the great friends she has had to help her through all her devastating pain. I have experienced a similar journey to Lisa, however, I have not had the financial resources to surround myself with qualified Christian counselors or expert theologians. I have lost most of my friend support because of the severity of the long term abuse I experienced. Most of my friends didn’t know how to go there. Over the last few years, hearing this advise from Lisa has been discouraging and frustrating rather than encouraging and inspiring. Many Christian counselors aren’t experts in narcissism. Most Christian counselors don’t except insurance -cash only. Most expert Christian counselor’s (with knowledge in narcissism) fees are extremely expensive and unrealistic for a person leaving a long term narcissistic relationship with no money. I believe this is the reality for many people who have left narcissistic, financially irresponsible, financially abusive relationships. I’d love to hear from this panel what someone should do if they don’t have financial resources. By the grace of God and through self-educating I have made my way through the hell of betrayal and the effects of narcissism, but I have had to do this on my own. It has been brutal. It doesn’t seem right, within the Christian community, that the only ones able to obtain quality Christian mental health care, with strong knowledge and understanding of Narcissism, are those with money. This reality can contribute to those feeling victimized and powerless as a result of abuse, feel further victimized by the inability to afford a qualified Christian counselor.
Not to make light of what you are saying but I know from experience that through prayer God will provide for your needs. Sometimes it seems there will never be a breakthrough but with total surrender to Christ, He can do exceedingly above what you ask or think. I will lift you up in prayer, don't lose hope.
This is an excellent observation. As a minister I am saddened because this should be provided in your Christian Family (Church). So sorry that your friends left you hanging. Glad you can voice this without being bitter. ❤
Yes, I have also gotten from this passage and scripture that got himself is the first example we see if humility through the trinity. The father is not without the son and the son is not without the father and of course the Holy Spirit is not without the father and the son. Humility is the greatest strength of love.❤️🦋🙏
How do you find this kind of counseling that's affordable? One session isn't going to do anything it sounds like but most people cannot afford ongoing/long term sessions. Yes, it's important but it's not realistic in most people's lives.
Stay on your boundaries, even if they don't agree and fight about it. God wants us to live at peace, as far as it depends on you (Romans 12:18), and blessed are the peacemakers (Matthew 5:9). As Jesus said to Peter, "What is that to you? You follow Me." (John 21:22), even if your family doesn't understand, keep following Jesus. Pray for His wisdom, courage, and protection. God bless you. It's tough and unjust, who decides what our boundaries are anyway, especially when they caused boundaries to happen. Be holy, as He is holy.
So good thank you
I'm not sure that a narcissist will stick around with counciling for six sessions. Because in their mind, there's nothing wrong with them, "you're the one that needs help"🙄🙄.
Enjoying that Lisa is now saying she’s bringing “the experience” vs “the issues”.
Love that it's "the experience" and not "the issues" that's a great way to not stay a victim!!
However I kinda don't think this was "now".
Pretty sure this is in the past. Probably over a year ago.
Why? Because she doesn't have her engagement ring on, or her wedding band(It's pretty huge! hard to miss ~ 💍
So yeah she's done this recording over a year ago.
OR God forbid 😣, this is new and she's fallen into another unhealthy relationship with her new husband --which I DO NOT THINK that is the case.
Love this‼️Biblical wisdom, how this over the years have saved me and helped me grow as a child of God. Thank you ‼️
Thank you again for speaking into our lives with insight & truth. Please pray that God would lead me to a qualified & trustworthy Christian counselor. I need a safe place to share the heartbreak of a hurtful relationship. ❤
Here are more resources for counseling for you: proverbs31.org/about/counseling-support
It came to me as Lisa began to bring her experience in, that something to remember about people in destructive relationships are made to feel crazy (as she’s stated), & often, there’s months or years of this programming & tearing down of. More often than not, they don’t know how to determine who is wise council because they no longer trust THEMSELVES & their own judgment! So they stay quiet & alone. Idk if we’ll get there in this episode but wanted to type it out.
Can’t and Won’t ❤
I second this. Lord guide me please 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for the information shared in all of your videos and podcasts. One thing Lisa says often in her communications is the importance of having wise counsel and a qualified Christian counselor to work through trauma and/or severely damaging relationships. Lisa often mentions how she doesn’t think she could have made it through her emotional journey (betrayal, loss, narcissism,etc.) without Jim, Joel, and the great friends she has had to help her through all her devastating pain. I have experienced a similar journey to Lisa, however, I have not had the financial resources to surround myself with qualified Christian counselors or expert theologians. I have lost most of my friend support because of the severity of the long term abuse I experienced. Most of my friends didn’t know how to go there. Over the last few years, hearing this advise from Lisa has been discouraging and frustrating rather than encouraging and inspiring. Many Christian counselors aren’t experts in narcissism. Most Christian counselors don’t except insurance -cash only. Most expert Christian counselor’s (with knowledge in narcissism) fees are extremely expensive and unrealistic for a person leaving a long term narcissistic relationship with no money. I believe this is the reality for many people who have left narcissistic, financially irresponsible, financially abusive relationships. I’d love to hear from this panel what someone should do if they don’t have financial resources. By the grace of God and through self-educating I have made my way through the hell of betrayal and the effects of narcissism, but I have had to do this on my own. It has been brutal. It doesn’t seem right, within the Christian community, that the only ones able to obtain quality Christian mental health care, with strong knowledge and understanding of Narcissism, are those with money. This reality can contribute to those feeling victimized and powerless as a result of abuse, feel further victimized by the inability to afford a qualified Christian counselor.
Not to make light of what you are saying but I know from experience that through prayer God will provide for your needs. Sometimes it seems there will never be a breakthrough but with total surrender to Christ, He can do exceedingly above what you ask or think. I will lift you up in prayer, don't lose hope.
This is an excellent observation. As a minister I am saddened because this should be provided in your Christian Family (Church).
So sorry that your friends left you hanging.
Glad you can voice this without being bitter. ❤
Im so glad I found this channel 🎉 I love to listen to you guys! What wisdom you have! Thank you sooo much!!!❤
Thanks for watching!
@@lovelywonder7722 me too!
Strange lightning. Good message.
Thank you for talking about denial.
Yes, I have also gotten from this passage and scripture that got himself is the first example we see if humility through the trinity. The father is not without the son and the son is not without the father and of course the Holy Spirit is not without the father and the son. Humility is the greatest strength of love.❤️🦋🙏
Thank you very much 🙏
Thank you all love it ❤ very helpful for all
It would be great to meet your new husband!!
Always watching from London x
Thank you for this video
I didn’t know what I didn’t know, until now
always puts a smile on my face when GOD reminds me when IVE BEEN RIGHT . ..
Yes... ❤
Which video came before this video? This video seems like a Part 2?
Is this in a podcast format? I did not see it on the Therapy and Theology podcast feed.
LOVE PEOPLE WELL❣️❣️❣️❣️🔥
I am in denial of my husband wanting a divorce after 41 years of marriage.
How do you find this kind of counseling that's affordable? One session isn't going to do anything it sounds like but most people cannot afford ongoing/long term sessions. Yes, it's important but it's not realistic in most people's lives.
Id love to bug out to the mountains😂as would most fellow introverts😂
My family does not respect healthy boundaries with me. Do you have any suggestions as to how to get through to them?
Stay on your boundaries, even if they don't agree and fight about it. God wants us to live at peace, as far as it depends on you (Romans 12:18), and blessed are the peacemakers (Matthew 5:9). As Jesus said to Peter, "What is that to you? You follow Me." (John 21:22), even if your family doesn't understand, keep following Jesus. Pray for His wisdom, courage, and protection. God bless you. It's tough and unjust, who decides what our boundaries are anyway, especially when they caused boundaries to happen. Be holy, as He is holy.
Why is the room dark???
To highlight the table and the people speaking and not the background.
Thanks
🙏🫶❤️
Maybe that person is unhealthy…