Israel’s actual relationship with apartheid South Africa

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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2021
  • Israel is often compared to South Africa as an apartheid state, but do you know the historic relationship between the two countries? Featuring Chris McGreal, former Guardian correspondent in Jerusalem, and Omar Barghouti, co-founder of the BDS movement.
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  • @michaelfischbacher3181
    @michaelfischbacher3181 10 месяцев назад +20

    They forgot to mention that the Jewish mining bosses dominated the South African economy which was surely a significant aspect of the relationship.

  • @dodec8449
    @dodec8449 9 месяцев назад +11

    John Vorster steps into the room and you are an Israeli politician:
    "Wait a minute .... are we the baddies?"

    • @stinger4712
      @stinger4712 6 месяцев назад

      If the cap fits mate...😅

  • @md.muzahidulislamsamrat8037
    @md.muzahidulislamsamrat8037 2 года назад +29

    Israel should be added to a UN blacklist if its violence against Palestinian children is repeated this year, UN chief Antonio Guterres said on Monday.
    In its annual Children and Armed Conflict report, the UN said Israeli forces killed 78 Palestinian children, maimed another 982 and detained 637 in 2021.
    “I am shocked by the number of children killed and maimed by Israeli forces during hostilities, in air strikes on densely populated areas and through the use of live ammunition during law enforcement operations,” the UN secretary-general said in the report.
    "Should the situation repeat itself in 2022, without meaningful improvement, Israel should be listed," he added.

    • @robertwang2788
      @robertwang2788 2 года назад +1

      I'm glad some people in the UN at least have an ounce of consideration for the Palestinians. Israel shouldn've been on the blacklist 100 times for what it has already and is currently doing. Unfortunately, as long as the US maintains its hegemony, The UN will always be a toothless organization.

    • @everythingandmore5537
      @everythingandmore5537 Год назад +2

      Just list Israel now.

    • @Jouantiese
      @Jouantiese Год назад

      Without the West the UN is a hopelessly compromised organization.
      The tragedy of innocent Palestinian kids killed during Israeli attacks on Gaza falls squarely on the shoulders of Hamas cowards who hide among and target Israeli civilians from them.
      Those kids who pick up arms against Israeli forces are also a tragedy, but they're combatants.
      Interestingly the peole outraged by these deaths are silent when Arab kids are slaughtered by the 1000's - by Arabs. That seems ok. The Syrian genocide is one of a long list of hypocrisies.

    • @Scar_7.62
      @Scar_7.62 3 месяца назад

      Strange you criticize Israel and yet the govt is continuing to use Israeli rifles !???????🤨🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @md.muzahidulislamsamrat8037
      @md.muzahidulislamsamrat8037 3 месяца назад

      @@Scar_7.62 whose government? It's not an elected govt. Israel always sells weapons to unelected dictatorships throughout the world from south America, to Africa to Asia.
      And I did not criticise, UN did.

  • @joshuaruiz1773
    @joshuaruiz1773 5 месяцев назад +4

    Israel being an apartheid state, supported the South African apartheid state, then it’s likely that Israel in played a roll the 2014 Ukraine war against the Russian people of Donbas. According to Wikipedia, “Israel has an embassy in Kyiv and Ukraine has an embassy in Tel Aviv. Both Ukraine and Israel recognized each other in 1949 as the Ukrainian SSR.. There are 30,000 Ukrainians settled in Israel while Ukraine has one of Europes largest Jewish communities. More over, Ukraine is the first European Nation to have a Jewish President and a Prime Minister”. So Ukraine and Israel mirror each other.

    • @paperoverflow
      @paperoverflow 2 месяца назад

      You can't just go and connect dots that don't exist, that's what conspiracy theorists like to do. What you are doing is scapegoating Israel and blaming it for every conflict on Earth. You are doing what antisemites were plotting which led to Hitler's hatred for the jews and the Holocaust! He had jewish origins himself, ironically! However Ukraine and Russia is another conflict that has nothing to do with the conflct in Gaza, so stop spreading such nonesense! History is a science not a playground for conspiracy maniacs.

  • @jojot2045
    @jojot2045 9 месяцев назад +7

    Bye Israel bye US goverment

  • @deadpool113
    @deadpool113 Год назад +7

    The most vicious team up ever: apartheid Suid-Afrika and Israel😂 wow it can't better than this. Ever since Germany and Japan's alliance the most evil yet strong combination

  • @gregorynolan3803
    @gregorynolan3803 Год назад +3

    What about "The New" South Africa's relationship with India in terms of the caste system in India? Is that not Apartheid ?

    • @alistairfannell6694
      @alistairfannell6694 Год назад

      No

    • @gregorynolan3803
      @gregorynolan3803 Год назад +3

      @@alistairfannell6694 It is discrimination.

    • @bashimuse5439
      @bashimuse5439 9 месяцев назад +5

      Before mentioning south Africa talk about Gandi who supported cast system and also hated Africans even though they call him nigger when he was in south Africa

  • @Only1Shelvonte
    @Only1Shelvonte 2 года назад +15

    South Africa is the real Israel

  • @Scar_7.62
    @Scar_7.62 3 месяца назад

    If the black anc govt is so principalled, why are they still using Israeli rifles ? the R4 and R5 🤔

  • @ericab1981
    @ericab1981 21 день назад

    Israel is just like South Africa except Israel has a larger economy, with only 1/6th the people, 1/50th the land, 1/25th the homicide rate, and 15 years of added life expectancy.

  • @romanussaal712
    @romanussaal712 8 месяцев назад +1

    DP, DA ... Zionism....

  • @masambeni
    @masambeni Год назад +2

    The relationship though unfortunate and stupid from Israel's pov was transactional and not ideological. Apartheid SA had relations with the UK US Europe etc as well. This is a desperate and futile attempt to try to link Israel to Aparthed SA...something that is antisemitic to do.

    • @jacklong9449
      @jacklong9449 Год назад +9

      Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic ffs. Get over it.

    • @nothingnothing5183
      @nothingnothing5183 11 месяцев назад +3

      They all have the same ideology. They are all White supremacists.

    • @RSVPrr
      @RSVPrr 9 месяцев назад +3

      Isreal is a Nazi State

    • @nicknicholas416
      @nicknicholas416 8 месяцев назад +4

      You can’t just call criticism antisemitic. Some things are just wrong regardless of ego is doing it.

  • @colingoldberg346
    @colingoldberg346 Год назад +6

    The argument that Israel is an apartheid state is specious - it is not true. Although there is a dispute, Jewish and Arab citizens alike live, work and vote in the same way. Arabs are not treated as blacks were treated in the apartheid days of South Africa. And if you don't agree, you can visit Israel and see for yourself.

    • @ebiesahib5532
      @ebiesahib5532 Год назад

      Bullshit, Israel denies Palestinian citizens their rights to equal nationality and status, while Palestinians in the OPT face severe restrictions on freedom of movement. Israel also restricts Palestinians’ rights to family unification in a profoundly discriminatory manner: for example, Palestinians from the OPT cannot gain residency or citizenship through marriage, which Jewish Israelis can.
      Israel also places severe limitations on Palestinians’ civil and political rights, to suppress dissent and maintain the system of oppression and domination. For example, millions of Palestinians in the West Bank remain subject to Israel’s military rule and draconian military orders adopted since 1967.

    • @gregorynolan3803
      @gregorynolan3803 Год назад

      India is more an Apartheid State than Israel with the Caste System ...... Worse than Apartheid if you ask me.

    • @wheelofwokesellouts3900
      @wheelofwokesellouts3900 Год назад

      okej " goldberg" tell us again how its pity about your people when you had big slave trade and had kill all amaleks and so on.. its soooo pity of your people right.. go cry lampshades . now go report like your people always do and cry

    • @gregorynolan3803
      @gregorynolan3803 Год назад

      @@wheelofwokesellouts3900 Amaleks was a war. You attack a country you can defend yourself, right? Not as backwards as Chaka was, or Mugabe who even wiped out is own people to stuff his pockets. And let us not get into the Arab Was discussions with Israel. You know the history. If attacked or of an attack is immanent you can defend yourself If you do not listen then you will get to the point where you are not making the rules anymore. Lokk at Arafat, he was lining his pockets at his own people's expense.

    • @wheelofwokesellouts3900
      @wheelofwokesellouts3900 Год назад

      @@gregorynolan3803 wtf you babble about . jews got order to kill every one .. every livestock every innocent civilians and so on.
      and its funny how if god gave the land to the jews -. why then did you all leave instanst just becuse joseph offered you luxery life in egypt.
      as soon as " chosen ones" knew it was good in egypt they discarded gods command and left " israel" to egypt.
      and they stayed there for 500-1000 years
      egypt is so close to israel and yet nobody went back to " holy land". it was only after egypt enslaved you becuse they knew you took everything over..
      only then did you all cry for god to help you.
      like he gave you the land and you all left volentery???.. such a stupid and arrogant people

  • @peterpeterson2345
    @peterpeterson2345 2 года назад +13

    Lina Mahul, an Arab woman, won the Israeli version of the Voice in 2012, Salim Joubran, who is Arab of origin, was judge of the Supreme Court of Israel, the United Arab List is part of the 36th government of Israel, there is a Muslim prayer room at the Ben-Gurion Airport as well as there are in hospitals, there are Muslim and Jewish Arabs living in Israel, in Israeli hospitals about twenty percent of the staff are Palestinian and you will be treated by both Israelis and Palestinians regardless of their ethnicity. In Tel-Aviv there is the gay pride celebrating freedom of the sexes. Arabs, Druze, Christians and Muslims can join the Israeli Army. The wife of Mahmoud Abbas Amina got medical treatment in Israel. This is not apartheid.

    • @suhailquyoom
      @suhailquyoom 2 года назад +25

      Apartheid is apartheid whether you whitewash it by some acts or not.

    • @peterpeterson2345
      @peterpeterson2345 2 года назад +1

      @@suhailquyoom And your doctor in Tel Aviv will we an Arab or a Jew whether you want it or not. Maybe he'll be Asian....

    • @suhailquyoom
      @suhailquyoom 2 года назад +11

      read the speech of Desmond of Africa, who fought apartheid. He said Israel is apartheid and worser than south African apartheid. And also watch reports of amnesty and HRW. stop whitewashing crimes by hooking up things. Try to get inside your humanitarian part. Don't know what kind of human u r, supporting occupation in modern world.

    • @peterpeterson2345
      @peterpeterson2345 2 года назад +1

      @@suhailquyoom The last time I was in Israel I went to the old city to the market and the Arab shopowner said to me, he won't take advantage of me as he does of all the other tourists and yet he still did cause I am a noob at making good bargain. That is not apartheid.

    • @muhammadabuzarkhan7450
      @muhammadabuzarkhan7450 2 года назад +13

      This is not how you prove something is not a Apartheid. These few people do not represent the whole treatment of a community. And their victories do not translated to how people in Palestine are treated.

  • @markwaki3950
    @markwaki3950 8 месяцев назад

    Israel is in their land. Boers were in South African land.

    • @tutotutot5193
      @tutotutot5193 8 месяцев назад +15

      most israelis are from Europe. infact original indigenous Israel jews are kind and friendly with muslims. Racism and violence are European traits from new arrivals

    • @markwaki3950
      @markwaki3950 8 месяцев назад

      @@tutotutot5193 Bust Islam isn't a race and neither is Jewishness according to the Bible. The whole thing is about Jerusalem and the God that claims it as his own.

    • @tutotutot5193
      @tutotutot5193 8 месяцев назад

      @@markwaki3950 racism is about race. ask ethiopian jews. ask original non tainted israel jews and you will find they lived peaceful with muslims until the european jews arrived with their european tendencies.

    • @bobsnow6242
      @bobsnow6242 8 месяцев назад

      @markwaki3950 White Jewish people from London and New York: "i'M inDigENouS t0 PaLeStiNE"

    • @markwaki3950
      @markwaki3950 8 месяцев назад

      @@bobsnow6242 I don't know if you believe in God and if so, which God? As a believer in the Bible, my position is that all land belongs to God and he gives it as an inheritance to whomsoever he chooses.
      Psa 24:1 KJV A Psalm of David. The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.
      For reasons best known to himself, God judged the original inhabitants of Palestine and dispossessed them in favour of Israel. He also promised to preserve it for them forever. He has kept his promise and will continue to do so. Even when Israel disobeys and gets thrown out in judgement, he will restore them to prove to all the world that he is God.
      1Ch 16:16-18 KJV Even of the covenant which he made with Abraham, and of his oath unto Isaac; And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant, Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance;
      Eze 25:15-17 KJV Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred; Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast. And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

  • @ROCKArocka
    @ROCKArocka Год назад

    lol this is the most bs thing ive seen ,

  • @RachelDerGolem
    @RachelDerGolem 2 месяца назад

    Israel is just like South Africa except Israel has a larger economy, with only 1/6th the people, 1/50th the land, 1/25th the homicide rate, and 15 years of added life expectancy.