A reality show about leather-faced, weird-looking, maniacal beings trying to destroy the earth, I thought we had that already. My bad I just was told Keeping up with the Kardashian is a different concept
@@hancockiYou're either thinking of _Pog & Dar: Cop Landlords_ or _Will They, Won't They?,_ a workplace sitcom where all the characters are secretly in love with one another.
According to the 1989 book The Worlds of the Federation, that gangster planet was contacted again sometime later and the Federation was surprised to find that they now had adopted Starfleet uniforms as standard clothing and built up their society based on their interaction with the Enterprise. They were even communicating via Starfleet communications channels.
I may be the only one that remembers the NES game, but the Enterprise swings by there again and find they made a wormhole that punted the Enterprise halfway across the quadrant.
An additional world I would like to see revisited: Moab IV, seen on the TNG episode "The Masterpiece Society." At the end of that episode, the Enterprise crew realizes that, even though they had helped to save the colonists, their unintentional contamination may have done just as much harm in the end. I personally feel this is an underrated episode because it is a rare episode in which there is no good solution. Picard and crew accidentally make a mess that they can't really clean up. All they can do is try to minimize the consequences and hope for the best.
Blink of an Eye is maybe my favorite episode of Trek. I love how it gets you to care about characters you know only for a minute, and whom you realise are dead as soon as we're back on the ship. (the planet apparently gets the name Tahal-Meeroj in the short story spinoff of the Doctor's time on the planet).
I was assuming this would be #1. By the time Voyager gets back to Earth, the people of that planet would have advanced enough to get their planet in sync with the rest of the galaxy and would probably be the most technologically advanced civilization in existence.
I was assuming this would be #1. By the time Voyager gets back to Earth, the people of that planet would have advanced enough to get their planet in sync with the rest of the galaxy and would probably be the most technologically advanced civilization in existence.
I was assuming this would be #1. By the time Voyager gets back to Earth, the people of that planet would have advanced enough to get their planet in sync with the rest of the galaxy and would probably be the most technologically advanced civilization in existence.
From the Original Series: The Nazi Planet, Ekos and it’s neighbor Zeon. How did they recover. The Gladiator Planet, especially to see what happened with the “Son of God”
Yeah, Star Trek's breadth is nice and all, but part of the reason for the "alien of the week" trope is the idea that... we're almost never seeing things again.
It's borderline criminal that they never went back to Sigma Iotia, Kirk specifically. Imagine his percentage when he reveals that he invented Fizbin, and now wants a cut of all winnings.
I wanted for yars a Lower Decks epsiode where they go visiting Sigma Iotia and Mariner, Boimler and T'Lyn end up in a bar fight with Iotians gangsters. Would be nice to see them in Strange New Worlds too.
@@southsidetattoo I believe that SFDebris explained this as being Roddenberry's mindset when it came to planets, species and phenomena in space; he mentioned that the Crystalline Entity from Datalore was meant by Gene to be a one-off thing, and that its follow-up episode came from outside sources. Yeah, he'd repeat concepts, like the superhuman human threat to the Federation, or the godlike entities, or even the planets remarkably similar to Earth, but he never put in any mind of fleshing them out or revisiting them in particular - as far as he was concerned, they were just the crises of the episode, and that's that.
@@jeremyadkins9665 That's the difference between TOS and Next Gen. and so on. I don't think ANYONE back then could have known what TREK would become. Just trying to meet the deadline for the studio they weren't thinking forward, why should they. I think where the groundwork was set for future TREK oddly enough was the animated series. By the time they got to Next Gen. I think Roddenberry and Paramount knew they didn't have the type of audience as the cop / western shows fro the 60's. I like to think of Trekkies today as a bit smarter then back when I was a kid watching TOS. As much as TREK has taken on social issues I think todays TREK pushes those issues to hard. I do wish we got another season ( or 2 ) of Enterprise. It would have been cool see if it was future Archer leading the Suliban and I would love to see the REFIT NX Enterprise .
What about going back to the Dyson Sphere from Relics??? I know there is a novel that goes into it. Nice to see in Canon a return to the Dyson Sphere and learn more about it
Star Trek online has stuff dealing with the Dyson spheres. Turns out there is several of them scattered all around the galaxy, and gives portals to travel.
Miscellaneous Bridge Officer: “Why did we get stuck with boring check up on some old isolated planet?” Captain: “Let me tell you the story of Ceti Alpha V.”
This could be a very big list. so many places from TOS, to go back to, Check out Mudd's Android Planet And the city in asteroid; For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky, They should have reached a new world by now. What great things can be learned from both.
We need to see what happened on Aldea. From season 1 of Next Generation that took Wesley and some other kids from the Enterprise. Doctor Crusher treated them so it would be nice to know if they were able to have kids of their own and in general what happened to them.
I imagine it would be a fairly boring affair for the most part. However, having them learn about how their technology worked would certainly be of great interest to Starfleet science. Particularly when a "small taste" can throw a starship 3 days away at warp 9 with little effort involved.
@@RedWingnut00 Here's the real head scratcher: Where's the Aldean Homeworld? Yeah, part of the reason that group we saw was at risk of dying out... is that it's a small colony cut off from the rest of their race. That city Wesley was taken to... is the entire inhabited area of Aldea. Yes, I did make a vid on this... But it's a MASSIVE plot point... that the episode didn't follow-up on, and left unexplored... much like the planet Aldea.
Hey Sean, you should a video for 10 Aliens that We Should Probably Check On, because after DS9 I always wondered what happened to the Skreea since they arrived in the Alpha Quadrant and moved to their new Home world, Did they join the Federation, did some of them get assimilated by the Borg when they moved to the Alpha Quadrant.
What about Triskelion (with the drill thrall slaves and the disembodied brains that placed bets to control them), Sigma Draconis VI (Brain and brain! What is brain?), Beta III (the Landru computer), the Fabrini of Yonada (For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky), Miri’s Planet (the kids), Gideon (overpopulation), Ardana (Stratis Cloud City), Capella IV (High Teer Leonard James Akaar).
All the thralls died. Everyone is dead on the Spocks Brain planet easily. On theLandru planet...all dead. Miris planet? All dead. Someone stumbled on a pathogen unreleased and it killed them all. Gideon? All dead. Nuts don't know how to use condoms. Ardana? Fucked. Capella? All the leaders were killed revolution style. ANY planet Kirk visited and upended centuries of tradition is DEAD DEAD DEAD No culture can survive contact with a superior culture.
@@STSWB5SG1FAN Well yeah...its all theyve known. Hopefully they ALL undid Kirks work. Maybe...MAYBE the Yangs-Kohms have a chance...maybe. Don't forget The Apple planet...those guys are Fuuuucked. Vaal controlled the whole planet...weather...everything. Hopefully another ship got there the next day and just beamed up the 20 or so villagers and left it at that. That one was easillllyyy Kirks most egrigous violation of the PD. At least Spock gave it lip service "Starfleet may not see it that way"
Hey, is that a severely pissed off Colm Meaney outside your door with a tire iron? Yeah, I don't think the episode with the Irish stereotypes almost as bad as "Code of Honor' stereotypes will make a comeback. It is also on record as Colm Meaney's most hated episode and the one he was most uncomfortable doing. Think about it. All the "O'Brien must suffer" episodes, and it was one where he was barely in it that he despises the most. As someone of Irish descent, and having learned a great deal about my heritage, I understand the discomfort all too well. Then again, the Pakleds came back hard, and they were straight up mocking the develpmentally disabled. Maybe a Lower Decks episode. Have Colm Meaney guest star long enough to just say something to the effect of kicking them out of Ireland, or just saying they were originally from England. Oooo, I kind of like the second one. Make it sound like they basically copied the stereotypes because of some popular media.
@@lovehawks2814 it's such a shame, because overall, I agree that the episode is cringe, but the scenes with Riker and Brenna Odell had a big impact on me in my formative years when it first aired.
@@lovehawks2814 The amusement park planet (Shore Leave) allowed Kirk to fight his bully 'Finnegan' who is the worst Irish stereotype. All he needs is a bottle of whiskey and a shamrock. 🤣🤣🤣
Although not a world per se, but an area of interest, what about Fluidic Space. Give us some update on Species 8472, maybe even a canon name (STO calls them the Undine). Last time we saw them, EMH slide show on mating rituals aside, was in the training station mock up of Starfleet Headquarters and the Academy.
I would really love a revisit to the Vidian home world. If Kurros was telling the truth about the phage. He has no reason to lie, I believed it to be true. I imagine the Phage and the Vidian's need to harvest other lifeforms made them rather well known, and given the advanced nature of their medical tech, I can imagine that scanner/harvesting device that made the tricorder look like an etch-a-sketch would appeal. It would curious to see what happens to a race whose need for raiding and harvesting other species vanishes literally overnight. To be honest, I could absolute get on board with a series where Starfleet sends a mission back into the Delta Quadrant to visit a number of places of interest from Voyager. Perhaps a series with a certain former borg-turned starfleet officer, maybe a finally-promoted Harry Kim...
Theres a fan fiction story. It starts with re-writing series 7 then continued with Voyager returning to the Delta quadrant after Kes asks for help. She's met up with the Viddeans and it's an interesting story. Can't remember the name of the series, but as a warning it is long.
Janeway's Q-Continuum is eerily similar to the gated community my mother-in-law lives in. Had to spend a soul sucking few days there once dog-sitting and the view out the window of the occasional old codger aimlessly ambling about in the beating sun was exactly like Janeway's visit to the continuum. Didn't see any civil war break out, but I suspect than no wild 55 year old newcomers had the audacity to bring a child to the collective or let one squeak at the pool during my stay. The carnage of destroyed golf carts would be a sight to see!
That TNG planet from "The Survivors," where they left that "Dowd." Definitely shouldn't actually go down to it, but someone should be maintaining a monitoring station on the edge of the system to track his movements and see if he ever leaves the planet...
I think the Q stayed out of the affairs of Earth for so long due, at least in part, to the Temporal Cold War everyone got drawn into. I say this because some of Q's best lessons to Picard involved the non-linearity of time. This truly goes a long way towards opening the minds of later generations... Right in time for the Temporal Cold War to start to rear its ugly head. And as an aside, I fear for Guinan's health once the Cold War REALLY gets going.
#1 Does anyone remember the Star Trek 25th anniversary game on the NES, where the Sigma Iotians had learned so much from McCoy's communicator that they'd managed to destroy their world by creating spatial rifts? Fun times.
As far as Beta Canon goes, the Star Trek: Year Five comic series gave the Sigma Iotians a much kinder fate, when McCoy, Spock, and Kirk were roped back into their planets twisted politics and finally gave the tortured underclass of the planet a controlling voice in their planet’s now Federation mimicking government, while at the same time curbing reckless technological expansion.
Amerind - the planet where the NCC-1701 encountered native Americans - should probably also be revisited. As should be the planet from "The 37's" - the one where the Voyager crew found Amelia Erhart.
I'm surprised Kavis Alpha IV wasn't on this list. It's the planet where the Enterprise D crew put the super fast evolving nanites. With the speed those nanites were advancing, their technology could be well beyond that of any other known species by the current 25th century timeline.
I want to see what became of the Bringloidi "space Irish" / Mariposa "clone world" and their polyamorous society that Picard set up at the end of the "Up The Long Ladder" episode (TNG S2, E18). The last canonical contact with them was when the Enterprise D left them in 2365. Lower Decks started in 2380 and the setting of the final season of Picard is 2401, so the way I see it we can check in on them with the crew of the Cerritos when the first generation of clone-Irish babies are in their teens and younger, or if "Legacy" ever happens Seven and her crew can visit them when they are adults and the second generation are running about and they are perhaps considering the benefits of joining the Federation.
Give that up....I've seen the actors including Frakes cringe at that episode. It was cute and funny then, but today it would get SHREDDED by these soft basement dwellers as offensive.
Talos IV should be on the list. A race that can just about control the galaxy from their couches by manipulating everybody else's percetions from ligh-years away should be a priority concern for Starfleet.
You mean the Cooperative? In STO, they're an ally of the Federation and act as peacekeepers in the Delta Quadrant, and also help protect other civilizations from the Collective. They do still assimilate but only on a voluntary basis, and those who join can choose to return to their people afterwards.
Federation should have checked on Ceti Alpha V after leaving the inhabitants of the Botany Bay there. Who knows what the timeline would have been like had they checked on it.
what about the planet that tried to kidnap enterprises children until they help them fix their issues. Would be interesting to see how they progressed after being able to have their own children again.
What about 'Nagilum' which appears to be a a living, conscious pocket of space which I always felt was a bit like 'Ego the Living Planet' from Marvel comics. I'd be really curious and worried what that giant baby-face alien space dude is doing, concrened that the entire area is probably best flagged as a no-fly zone!!!
I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall one of the novels mentioning that when a starship went back to Sigma Iotia II later on, they found a fully-functional starbase, with everyone wearing Starfleet uniforms and such. All based on that brief contact and the transtator left in McCoy's communicator.
It was also depicted that way in a comic book. The TNG Enterprise went back to the planet to discover the kid who wanted a piece of the action from Kirk and Spock was now in charge.
What place I would like to visit again is the planet Miri from the episode of the same name. They never actually explained why it was an identical copy of earth circa 1960 in main canon (Beta canon says it was earth's solar system pulled through from another universe) but it would be nice to know how the planet of immortal children are faring. Have they adopted federation technology from the teachers (and truant officers) Kirk sent them? Would the Prime Directive apply to them then? they don't really have a civilization left to affect?
Just a simple reading on the novels would put most of these questions to rest. Example Cardassians have rebuilt their world under Gareck's leadership and applied for membership to the Federation
I would like to see a eeturn to Zeon/Ekos, Emminar/Vendikar, Elaas/Troius and to see the Onlies, the Hill People and the Children of Vaal from TOS. They left a lot of worlds with so much more story to tell. It would be nice for project swing by to check in on them.
I also wanted to know... what happened to the human populations in "Terra Nova", "The 37s", "Miri", "North Star", "New Eden", "Masterpiece Society", "Up the Long Ladder", and "The Paradise Syndrome"? These were distinct cases where an alien civilization raided Earth, a colony was cut off for generations from Earth, or weirder. But how do they reintegrate (if they decide they want to)? The case with the planet in Miri is probably the craziest, and brings up a LOT of questions about what to do with an almost vacant planet with centuries-old infrastructure and how to integrate almost immortal children into human society...? But JFC this happened so often that I'm assuming Starfleet had a special branch to deal with this kind of thing.
Several Special Branches. 1) Directorate For Integration, Assimilation & Reintegration 2) Directorate For Refugees, Resettlement & Nomad Species Management 3) Directorate For Damage Control 4) Directorate For Containment, Blockade & Interdiction LOL
STO gives them a ton of time in the spotlight. Too bad that's only "ascended" beta canon (ascended meaning it takes precidence over all other beta canon sources but is still secondary to alpha canon)
Man! We SHOULD check on Cardassia prime! We neen more shows about the post Dominion war time in Star Trek! Forget all this prequel stuff! Kirk,Spock,Archer and Pike have that stuff handled!😎
What? The planet we need to check on is Magna Roma or System 892-IV....or whatever you want to call it from TOS Bread and Circuses. It was a planet of humans from Ancient Rome transplanted by aliens. Not only does that need explored more, but we left them at a critical possibly world changing moment...and wrote it off like an oddity. WTH? With Roddenberry's obsession with Roman/Greek imagery and themes, how did they not explore this more?
I would have liked to see an episode of Next Generation where they arrive at Sigma Iotia 2 and find what would appear to be a 23 century Federation starbase .
ANY planet, from the Abrams/Kurtzman universes, NEEDS to die, and fall into their suns and those stars, fall into black holes. Nothing should be left, of the A & K crap.
I always thought that the Cerritos should second contact Kavis Alpha IV, the planet the Federation gave the nanites to. I mean, they went from bug to sentient in 24 hours. What have they done in 20 years? It would be a great reason to get Gates McFadden and Wil Wheaton on the show too.
The other borgs in the out reaches of space got fired by the borg queen. They could go home but the funds required to get them there came out their last check
Not a planet, but the Federation did buy the PD line of combat drones waaaaay back in TNG season 1, and I'd like to see more details on what they've done with them, especially given that Agimus seems to have been another customer who loaded up on them.
Starfleet has effective drones for science survey and combat. With the processes and algorithms to quickly crank out improved models when called for. But then Star Trek has this things where they DO NOT have robots for anything but the one-off character or plot device.
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the planet Organia. I've always wondered what became of them after they imposed peace between the Klingons and the Federation--a peace that was oddly overlooked in DS9 more than a few times. I know the Organians made a few appearances in Star Trek novels.
8 was a dropped plot line, brought about by the writers strike of 1988 and the reimagining of the “big bad” that the signal was going to, into the Borg. Originally, what became the Borg, were supposed to be insect like creatures who had an insect hive mind. They used the parasites in #8 to infiltrate and weaken enemy forces from within. However, they brought in new writers & they weren’t allowed to use any specific characters/creatures the original writers came up with, so the were changed into the Borg we all know now.
The Lone Star planet from Enterprise. They were humans, abducted from earth in the 19th century and reintroduced to humans by Capt. Archer on his way to find the Xindi. I always thought that their planet would have made a great base of operations; forward operating post.
I know it's not a planet but what about that moon Kai Opaka was forever stuck on. Oh well, I guess it was the will of the prophets. Microbes or not I can't believe that was that with Opaka...
10:08 Star Trek Discovery's Admiral stated; "The return of the Iconian's" in Past tense in Season 4 as a possible Power that could destroy Star Systems
In the fan film series Starship Locations Destinations one of the episodes goes to Miri in the pilot, Sigma Iotia in 2404, and to Magna Roma right after that in another.
On the subject of the planet Sigma Iconai ll, there were some fan fiction stories that had them become provisional members of starfleet with trading of goods and technologies . By reverse engineering, the electronic technology of the misplaced communicator they progressed from pre spaceflight to warp capabilities. By the time of the Domion War, they were supplier of Starships for Federation Home World fleets. So not official beta cannon more like Charlie cannon..
According to I believe it's called Star Trek worlds of t 13:10 he federation (1989) sigma iotia found the communicator and several decades later a message was received on Starfleet channels from the gangsters who had a very advanced society. Not sure if its canonical tho.
Solais V, Minara II and a visit to Betazed would be on my list of must visits for updates. I would even like to see a ship manned by these extra sensory gifted people. Why should Marvel be the lone entity supporting the Deaf or perceptive?
There seems like two dozen of those "extant human colony" planets here and there in Trek. The one in "The 37s" and the one in "The Paradise Syndrome" quickly come to mind.
I would love to see a new Star Trek live action where they go to all the planets and also though brog space to see what has happened and maybe just like the voyager episode unity that would be good to know if the Borg who wasn't at ground zero and if they become a new civilization and what about uni matrix zero
I remember when last season's Picard series was airing, the Bluegills were the main suspect in a lot of fan theories as the main protagonists until it was revealed to be the Changelings and Borg. The Conspiracy symbiotes would have been a much fresher and better twist than screwing up more Borg and Changeling lore.
the triskelian planet. another tos one was the planet where some pre agricultural tribe was feeding a snake god that was actually a computer. the planet the artificial asteroid was heading for in"For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky."
Organia (though it's probably under quarantine), Talos IV, or perhaps most of the planets discovered on the other side of the Bajoran wormhole prior to the Dominion getting pissy.
No contact with the Q and no reported contact with the Q are not the same thing, It's also not unimaginable to think the Q could simply wipe the memories of those they encounter if they wish to remain in the shadows.
The signal sent by Remmick was a huge missed opportunity for Star Trek: Voyager. I wouldn't have minded this being like a 2-part season finale/season premier episode. We need to check in on Malcor III to see if they are ready for a second "first contact."
I would not mind seeing a follow-up for the Ocampa, the Delta Quadrant's fishbowl. Did Kes go back home and help repair the damage to her planet, thereby saving a doomed species? Are they all able to use their mental abilities like her and the others they were in contact with during 'Fury'? Can the females of the world create more than one offspring? As written the Ocampa were at a genetic dead-end. Were they able to repel the Kazon at all?
In Lower Decks episode about "Buffer Time" they showed a distant future of the Federation where there was a classroom teaching students about the Boimler Effect (and the greatest hero of the Federation) and you can see there was a Borg student in the class among other Federation member species. So the Borg are still around down the road.
Azati Prime is shown in completely the wrong place according to everything I have seen previously with ST maps. That area shown is smack in between the Romulan Empire, the Klingon Empire, and the developing federation when the Expanse should be on the other side of Sector 001, more off in the boonies away from the other great powers (on the upper left of the map shown at 2:08). That’s what every previous map I’ve seen shows.
Other ones to check would be the various visitors from outside the Milky Way Galaxy. Like the ones from TOS that was turning everyone into little cubes (Kelvans), the creators of the World Eater from TOS, the creators of the telepathic spaceship that was lonely and wanted a crew in TNG, the ornithoids, the Nacene (caretakers from Voyager), the species at the center of the MilkyWay that made Barkley super intelligent. and so many others. So many various species to follow up on.
In my own head canon, after the Federation was founded by the Humans, Vulcans, Tellarites and Andorians, within a year the Xindi had petitioned to join them and are just as common a sight in the Federation as the other aliens. They're, Uh, just right off camera all the time.
Now i want to see "Keeping up with the Cardassians" as a reality show on Lower Decks.
Just FYI, there's a shirt (worn by hosts on this channel) featuring the three scientists from that one episode of _DS9._
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I may be misremembering but wasn't a quick clip shown on Boimlers Ferengi hotel TV?
A reality show about leather-faced, weird-looking, maniacal beings trying to destroy the earth, I thought we had that already.
My bad I just was told Keeping up with the Kardashian is a different concept
@@hancockiYou're either thinking of _Pog & Dar: Cop Landlords_ or _Will They, Won't They?,_ a workplace sitcom where all the characters are secretly in love with one another.
Not checking up on things is how you end up with a Seti Alpha V/VI situation
Yup!
That was Kahn right?
@@joeykerr5517 It is not so much that Khan was right, but Kirk forgot his promise to check up on them.
@@WilliamAGould I'll just take that as a yes.
@@WilliamAGould He was asking if it was the Khan movie, but thanks for your non answer.
According to the 1989 book The Worlds of the Federation, that gangster planet was contacted again sometime later and the Federation was surprised to find that they now had adopted Starfleet uniforms as standard clothing and built up their society based on their interaction with the Enterprise. They were even communicating via Starfleet communications channels.
That civilization must love LARPing.
They were described as highly imitative, so not too surprised.
That sounds like the "Enderprizians" from _Prodigy,_ which, if inspired by the book, was a really cool way of revisiting the idea.
I may be the only one that remembers the NES game, but the Enterprise swings by there again and find they made a wormhole that punted the Enterprise halfway across the quadrant.
Well I guess they could have had worse role models to copy.
I can imagine the intro to 'Legacy' with the Enterprise-G doing some followup missions, "To boldly go where Voyager had cocked up before"... :P
An additional world I would like to see revisited: Moab IV, seen on the TNG episode "The Masterpiece Society." At the end of that episode, the Enterprise crew realizes that, even though they had helped to save the colonists, their unintentional contamination may have done just as much harm in the end. I personally feel this is an underrated episode because it is a rare episode in which there is no good solution. Picard and crew accidentally make a mess that they can't really clean up. All they can do is try to minimize the consequences and hope for the best.
No V'ger's machine homeworld or the Whale Probe homeworld?
those a little too FAFO
What about that planet that time flows extremely fast? I’m curious what’s going on since Voyager left then
Blink of an Eye is maybe my favorite episode of Trek. I love how it gets you to care about characters you know only for a minute, and whom you realise are dead as soon as we're back on the ship. (the planet apparently gets the name Tahal-Meeroj in the short story spinoff of the Doctor's time on the planet).
where do you think the Q came from ?
I was assuming this would be #1. By the time Voyager gets back to Earth, the people of that planet would have advanced enough to get their planet in sync with the rest of the galaxy and would probably be the most technologically advanced civilization in existence.
I was assuming this would be #1. By the time Voyager gets back to Earth, the people of that planet would have advanced enough to get their planet in sync with the rest of the galaxy and would probably be the most technologically advanced civilization in existence.
I was assuming this would be #1. By the time Voyager gets back to Earth, the people of that planet would have advanced enough to get their planet in sync with the rest of the galaxy and would probably be the most technologically advanced civilization in existence.
From the Original Series:
The Nazi Planet, Ekos and it’s neighbor Zeon. How did they recover.
The Gladiator Planet, especially to see what happened with the “Son of God”
I was going to suggest the same ones.
Also from TOS: How did the Archons make out without Landru guiding them? And would the Feeders of Vol ever figure out how to put fruit on trees?
I have to agree.
I want to see Mintaka, Malcor 3, and Ocampa
Yes! I mean, Mintaka & Ocampa I've always wondered about.
I was just going to comment the exact same worlds :D To take Mirasta (or one of her grandkids) back to Malcor III would be awesome
This could really be a multi-part series and I often wonder why these aren't followed for potential new Trek content.
Yeah, Star Trek's breadth is nice and all, but part of the reason for the "alien of the week" trope is the idea that... we're almost never seeing things again.
It's borderline criminal that they never went back to Sigma Iotia, Kirk specifically. Imagine his percentage when he reveals that he invented Fizbin, and now wants a cut of all winnings.
I wanted for yars a Lower Decks epsiode where they go visiting Sigma Iotia and Mariner, Boimler and T'Lyn end up in a bar fight with Iotians gangsters. Would be nice to see them in Strange New Worlds too.
If I recall, some of the Starfleet Corps of Engineers novels have Sigma Iotian crew member characters. Not canon though.
Kirk has a habit of never looking back. Anyone remember a 20th century superman?
@@southsidetattoo I believe that SFDebris explained this as being Roddenberry's mindset when it came to planets, species and phenomena in space; he mentioned that the Crystalline Entity from Datalore was meant by Gene to be a one-off thing, and that its follow-up episode came from outside sources. Yeah, he'd repeat concepts, like the superhuman human threat to the Federation, or the godlike entities, or even the planets remarkably similar to Earth, but he never put in any mind of fleshing them out or revisiting them in particular - as far as he was concerned, they were just the crises of the episode, and that's that.
@@jeremyadkins9665 That's the difference between TOS and Next Gen. and so on. I don't think ANYONE back then could have known what TREK would become. Just trying to meet the deadline for the studio they weren't thinking forward, why should they. I think where the groundwork was set for future TREK oddly enough was the animated series. By the time they got to Next Gen. I think Roddenberry and Paramount knew they didn't have the type of audience as the cop / western shows fro the 60's. I like to think of Trekkies today as a bit smarter then back when I was a kid watching TOS. As much as TREK has taken on social issues I think todays TREK pushes those issues to hard. I do wish we got another season ( or 2 ) of Enterprise. It would have been cool see if it was future Archer leading the Suliban and I would love to see the REFIT NX Enterprise .
I wonder... do Tribbles have a home-world?
As always, thank you so very much to all for the videos.
They did. The Klingons took care of that.
What about going back to the Dyson Sphere from Relics??? I know there is a novel that goes into it. Nice to see in Canon a return to the Dyson Sphere and learn more about it
Star Trek online has stuff dealing with the Dyson spheres. Turns out there is several of them scattered all around the galaxy, and gives portals to travel.
Miscellaneous Bridge Officer: “Why did we get stuck with boring check up on some old isolated planet?”
Captain: “Let me tell you the story of Ceti Alpha V.”
Eminiar and Vendicar. Was the ambassador able to negotiate peace between the two planets or did they rebuild their war computer?
This could be a very big list. so many places from TOS, to go back to, Check out Mudd's Android Planet And the city in asteroid; For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky, They should have reached a new world by now. What great things can be learned from both.
@jimvideotvWe saw his skeleton in Lower Decks...
We need to see what happened on Aldea. From season 1 of Next Generation that took Wesley and some other kids from the Enterprise. Doctor Crusher treated them so it would be nice to know if they were able to have kids of their own and in general what happened to them.
I imagine it would be a fairly boring affair for the most part. However, having them learn about how their technology worked would certainly be of great interest to Starfleet science. Particularly when a "small taste" can throw a starship 3 days away at warp 9 with little effort involved.
@@RedWingnut00 Here's the real head scratcher: Where's the Aldean Homeworld?
Yeah, part of the reason that group we saw was at risk of dying out... is that it's a small colony cut off from the rest of their race. That city Wesley was taken to... is the entire inhabited area of Aldea. Yes, I did make a vid on this... But it's a MASSIVE plot point... that the episode didn't follow-up on, and left unexplored... much like the planet Aldea.
Hey Sean, you should a video for 10 Aliens that We Should Probably Check On, because after DS9 I always wondered what happened to the Skreea since they arrived in the Alpha Quadrant and moved to their new Home world, Did they join the Federation, did some of them get assimilated by the Borg when they moved to the Alpha Quadrant.
And the Ocampa (both populations).
@@antney7745 And the Kazons along with the Trabe
What about Triskelion (with the drill thrall slaves and the disembodied brains that placed bets to control them), Sigma Draconis VI (Brain and brain! What is brain?), Beta III (the Landru computer), the Fabrini of Yonada (For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky), Miri’s Planet (the kids), Gideon (overpopulation), Ardana (Stratis Cloud City), Capella IV (High Teer Leonard James Akaar).
All the thralls died. Everyone is dead on the Spocks Brain planet easily. On theLandru planet...all dead. Miris planet? All dead. Someone stumbled on a pathogen unreleased and it killed them all. Gideon? All dead. Nuts don't know how to use condoms. Ardana? Fucked. Capella? All the leaders were killed revolution style.
ANY planet Kirk visited and upended centuries of tradition is DEAD DEAD DEAD
No culture can survive contact with a superior culture.
In _Lower Decks_ they actually did return to Landru's planet. They found that the Betans (Landruians?) had reactivated the system.
@@STSWB5SG1FAN Well yeah...its all theyve known. Hopefully they ALL undid Kirks work.
Maybe...MAYBE the Yangs-Kohms have a chance...maybe.
Don't forget The Apple planet...those guys are Fuuuucked. Vaal controlled the whole planet...weather...everything. Hopefully another ship got there the next day and just beamed up the 20 or so villagers and left it at that.
That one was easillllyyy Kirks most egrigous violation of the PD. At least Spock gave it lip service "Starfleet may not see it that way"
Need to go back and check on the Bringloidi and Mariposans. Let's go further up that long ladder!
Hey, is that a severely pissed off Colm Meaney outside your door with a tire iron? Yeah, I don't think the episode with the Irish stereotypes almost as bad as "Code of Honor' stereotypes will make a comeback. It is also on record as Colm Meaney's most hated episode and the one he was most uncomfortable doing. Think about it. All the "O'Brien must suffer" episodes, and it was one where he was barely in it that he despises the most. As someone of Irish descent, and having learned a great deal about my heritage, I understand the discomfort all too well.
Then again, the Pakleds came back hard, and they were straight up mocking the develpmentally disabled. Maybe a Lower Decks episode. Have Colm Meaney guest star long enough to just say something to the effect of kicking them out of Ireland, or just saying they were originally from England. Oooo, I kind of like the second one. Make it sound like they basically copied the stereotypes because of some popular media.
@@lovehawks2814 it's such a shame, because overall, I agree that the episode is cringe, but the scenes with Riker and Brenna Odell had a big impact on me in my formative years when it first aired.
BAM. Good call.
It did seem like an episode from TOS with the stereotypes of drunken Irishmen.
@@lovehawks2814 The amusement park planet (Shore Leave) allowed Kirk to fight his bully 'Finnegan' who is the worst Irish stereotype. All he needs is a bottle of whiskey and a shamrock. 🤣🤣🤣
Although not a world per se, but an area of interest, what about Fluidic Space. Give us some update on Species 8472, maybe even a canon name (STO calls them the Undine). Last time we saw them, EMH slide show on mating rituals aside, was in the training station mock up of Starfleet Headquarters and the Academy.
Tyree's planet in A Private Little War. What happened to the 100 flintlocks for the garden of eden?
I would really love a revisit to the Vidian home world. If Kurros was telling the truth about the phage. He has no reason to lie, I believed it to be true. I imagine the Phage and the Vidian's need to harvest other lifeforms made them rather well known, and given the advanced nature of their medical tech, I can imagine that scanner/harvesting device that made the tricorder look like an etch-a-sketch would appeal. It would curious to see what happens to a race whose need for raiding and harvesting other species vanishes literally overnight.
To be honest, I could absolute get on board with a series where Starfleet sends a mission back into the Delta Quadrant to visit a number of places of interest from Voyager. Perhaps a series with a certain former borg-turned starfleet officer, maybe a finally-promoted Harry Kim...
Theres a fan fiction story. It starts with re-writing series 7 then continued with Voyager returning to the Delta quadrant after Kes asks for help. She's met up with the Viddeans and it's an interesting story. Can't remember the name of the series, but as a warning it is long.
Wrigley's pleasure planet.
Crewman Darnell gave it two thumbs up.
Janeway's Q-Continuum is eerily similar to the gated community my mother-in-law lives in.
Had to spend a soul sucking few days there once dog-sitting and the view out the window of the occasional old codger aimlessly ambling about in the beating sun was exactly like Janeway's visit to the continuum. Didn't see any civil war break out, but I suspect than no wild 55 year old newcomers had the audacity to bring a child to the collective or let one squeak at the pool during my stay. The carnage of destroyed golf carts would be a sight to see!
That TNG planet from "The Survivors," where they left that "Dowd." Definitely shouldn't actually go down to it, but someone should be maintaining a monitoring station on the edge of the system to track his movements and see if he ever leaves the planet...
They should also check on all those recently depopulated Hussnock worlds, too.
What could the Federation do if he did?
@@EJRichardsonFubara Monitor his movements and warn anyone living in the direction he heads in to keep out of his way?
I think the Q stayed out of the affairs of Earth for so long due, at least in part, to the Temporal Cold War everyone got drawn into. I say this because some of Q's best lessons to Picard involved the non-linearity of time. This truly goes a long way towards opening the minds of later generations... Right in time for the Temporal Cold War to start to rear its ugly head.
And as an aside, I fear for Guinan's health once the Cold War REALLY gets going.
#1 Does anyone remember the Star Trek 25th anniversary game on the NES, where the Sigma Iotians had learned so much from McCoy's communicator that they'd managed to destroy their world by creating spatial rifts?
Fun times.
I just scrolled down to post about that! That game was too short!
As far as Beta Canon goes, the Star Trek: Year Five comic series gave the Sigma Iotians a much kinder fate, when McCoy, Spock, and Kirk were roped back into their planets twisted politics and finally gave the tortured underclass of the planet a controlling voice in their planet’s now Federation mimicking government, while at the same time curbing reckless technological expansion.
I think we only ever got as far in that game as the timewarp back to before everything went boom.
I wonder how those folks the Enterprise left of Ceti Alpha V turned out?
lmao
Wait wasnt it Ceti Alpha IV, wasn't V the one that blew up? Or whatever happened
@@andrewbray4923 Ceti Alpha VI is the one that blew up. It shifted V's orbit so that Reliant thought it was VI.
Turns out the survivors were dropped off on yet another planet run by augements, per the Eugenics Wars duology.
What about the "Blink of An Eye" planet? Are they ruling the universe yet?
And what about the "Mark of Gideon" guys? It's messed up that their entire planet was standing room only.
They had a virgin field epidemic,,,@@thunderphoenix440
Amerind - the planet where the NCC-1701 encountered native Americans - should probably also be revisited.
As should be the planet from "The 37's" - the one where the Voyager crew found Amelia Erhart.
I'm surprised Kavis Alpha IV wasn't on this list. It's the planet where the Enterprise D crew put the super fast evolving nanites. With the speed those nanites were advancing, their technology could be well beyond that of any other known species by the current 25th century timeline.
Exactly what I was thinking! Kavis Alpha IV.
I forgot about them.
I want to see what became of the Bringloidi "space Irish" / Mariposa "clone world" and their polyamorous society that Picard set up at the end of the "Up The Long Ladder" episode (TNG S2, E18). The last canonical contact with them was when the Enterprise D left them in 2365. Lower Decks started in 2380 and the setting of the final season of Picard is 2401, so the way I see it we can check in on them with the crew of the Cerritos when the first generation of clone-Irish babies are in their teens and younger, or if "Legacy" ever happens Seven and her crew can visit them when they are adults and the second generation are running about and they are perhaps considering the benefits of joining the Federation.
Oh God; the less about the Bringloidi, the much, much better.
Give that up....I've seen the actors including Frakes cringe at that episode. It was cute and funny then, but today it would get SHREDDED by these soft basement dwellers as offensive.
The planet from dear doctor so we can get some closure on phlox's decision
What about the planet of Dr Soongs creations in Picard? After all; a Borg cube crashed on it.
Talos IV should be on the list. A race that can just about control the galaxy from their couches by manipulating everybody else's percetions from ligh-years away should be a priority concern for Starfleet.
My fantasy on the Caretaker planet would be to get an A in Physics and Calculus when I was in college at age 19.
I would like to see what happened “new collective“ that was formed after they helped Chakotay in the episode “Unity”.
You mean the Cooperative? In STO, they're an ally of the Federation and act as peacekeepers in the Delta Quadrant, and also help protect other civilizations from the Collective. They do still assimilate but only on a voluntary basis, and those who join can choose to return to their people afterwards.
Federation should have checked on Ceti Alpha V after leaving the inhabitants of the Botany Bay there. Who knows what the timeline would have been like had they checked on it.
what about the planet that tried to kidnap enterprises children until they help them fix their issues. Would be interesting to see how they progressed after being able to have their own children again.
The nanite planet is probably the most important planet to check on
What about 'Nagilum' which appears to be a a living, conscious pocket of space which I always felt was a bit like 'Ego the Living Planet' from Marvel comics. I'd be really curious and worried what that giant baby-face alien space dude is doing, concrened that the entire area is probably best flagged as a no-fly zone!!!
I may be misremembering, but I seem to recall one of the novels mentioning that when a starship went back to Sigma Iotia II later on, they found a fully-functional starbase, with everyone wearing Starfleet uniforms and such. All based on that brief contact and the transtator left in McCoy's communicator.
It was also depicted that way in a comic book. The TNG Enterprise went back to the planet to discover the kid who wanted a piece of the action from Kirk and Spock was now in charge.
I wonder if someone handed a 1930's scientist a transistor if they could make heads or tails of it, or perhaps even more germain an 1700's scientist.
How long has he waited to say "Keeping up with the Cardassians"? LMAO
What place I would like to visit again is the planet Miri from the episode of the same name. They never actually explained why it was an identical copy of earth circa 1960 in main canon (Beta canon says it was earth's solar system pulled through from another universe) but it would be nice to know how the planet of immortal children are faring. Have they adopted federation technology from the teachers (and truant officers) Kirk sent them? Would the Prime Directive apply to them then? they don't really have a civilization left to affect?
Just a simple reading on the novels would put most of these questions to rest. Example Cardassians have rebuilt their world under Gareck's leadership and applied for membership to the Federation
I would like to see a eeturn to Zeon/Ekos, Emminar/Vendikar, Elaas/Troius and to see the Onlies, the Hill People and the Children of Vaal from TOS. They left a lot of worlds with so much more story to tell. It would be nice for project swing by to check in on them.
What about S3 Ep9 North Star? what ever happened to that colony of humans that where abducted by the Skagarans? do we ever hear what happened to them?
I also wanted to know... what happened to the human populations in "Terra Nova", "The 37s", "Miri", "North Star", "New Eden", "Masterpiece Society", "Up the Long Ladder", and "The Paradise Syndrome"? These were distinct cases where an alien civilization raided Earth, a colony was cut off for generations from Earth, or weirder. But how do they reintegrate (if they decide they want to)? The case with the planet in Miri is probably the craziest, and brings up a LOT of questions about what to do with an almost vacant planet with centuries-old infrastructure and how to integrate almost immortal children into human society...?
But JFC this happened so often that I'm assuming Starfleet had a special branch to deal with this kind of thing.
Several Special Branches.
1) Directorate For Integration, Assimilation & Reintegration
2) Directorate For Refugees, Resettlement & Nomad Species Management
3) Directorate For Damage Control
4) Directorate For Containment, Blockade & Interdiction LOL
I would definitely love to learn more about the Iconians in star trek😃
STO gives them a ton of time in the spotlight. Too bad that's only "ascended" beta canon (ascended meaning it takes precidence over all other beta canon sources but is still secondary to alpha canon)
Man!
We SHOULD check on Cardassia prime!
We neen more shows about the post Dominion war time in Star Trek!
Forget all this prequel stuff!
Kirk,Spock,Archer and Pike have that stuff handled!😎
What? The planet we need to check on is Magna Roma or System 892-IV....or whatever you want to call it from TOS Bread and Circuses. It was a planet of humans from Ancient Rome transplanted by aliens. Not only does that need explored more, but we left them at a critical possibly world changing moment...and wrote it off like an oddity. WTH? With Roddenberry's obsession with Roman/Greek imagery and themes, how did they not explore this more?
Quick question:
The bluegills? “Butt bugs”
They didn’t go anywhere near anyone’s butt!! 😂😂😂😂😂
*Definitely* Riza 😏
I would have liked to see an episode of Next Generation where they arrive at Sigma Iotia 2 and find what would appear to be a 23 century Federation starbase .
ANY planet, from the Abrams/Kurtzman universes, NEEDS to die, and fall into their suns and those stars, fall into black holes.
Nothing should be left, of the A & K crap.
I always thought that the Cerritos should second contact Kavis Alpha IV, the planet the Federation gave the nanites to. I mean, they went from bug to sentient in 24 hours. What have they done in 20 years? It would be a great reason to get Gates McFadden and Wil Wheaton on the show too.
The other borgs in the out reaches of space got fired by the borg queen. They could go home but the funds required to get them there came out their last check
Not a planet, but the Federation did buy the PD line of combat drones waaaaay back in TNG season 1, and I'd like to see more details on what they've done with them, especially given that Agimus seems to have been another customer who loaded up on them.
Considering how good those things were at adapting to attacks, I wouldn't be surprised if those guys incorporated Borg technology into them.
Starfleet has effective drones for science survey and combat. With the processes and algorithms to quickly crank out improved models when called for. But then Star Trek has this things where they DO NOT have robots for anything but the one-off character or plot device.
I'm disappointed you didn't mention the planet Organia. I've always wondered what became of them after they imposed peace between the Klingons and the Federation--a peace that was oddly overlooked in DS9 more than a few times. I know the Organians made a few appearances in Star Trek novels.
8 was a dropped plot line, brought about by the writers strike of 1988 and the reimagining of the “big bad” that the signal was going to, into the Borg.
Originally, what became the Borg, were supposed to be insect like creatures who had an insect hive mind. They used the parasites in #8 to infiltrate and weaken enemy forces from within.
However, they brought in new writers & they weren’t allowed to use any specific characters/creatures the original writers came up with, so the were changed into the Borg we all know now.
Of which, the Giraffes, are extinct.
(Yes, that's a bog standard, unadulterated Giraffe skull).
The Lone Star planet from Enterprise. They were humans, abducted from earth in the 19th century and reintroduced to humans by Capt. Archer on his way to find the Xindi. I always thought that their planet would have made a great base of operations; forward operating post.
I know it's not a planet but what about that moon Kai Opaka was forever stuck on. Oh well, I guess it was the will of the prophets. Microbes or not I can't believe that was that with Opaka...
10:08 Star Trek Discovery's Admiral stated; "The return of the Iconian's" in Past tense in Season 4 as a possible Power that could destroy Star Systems
In the fan film series Starship Locations Destinations one of the episodes goes to Miri in the pilot, Sigma Iotia in 2404, and to Magna Roma right after that in another.
On the subject of the planet Sigma Iconai ll, there were some fan fiction stories that had them become provisional members of starfleet with trading of goods and technologies . By reverse engineering, the electronic technology of the misplaced communicator they progressed from pre spaceflight to warp capabilities. By the time of the Domion War, they were supplier of Starships for Federation Home World fleets. So not official beta cannon more like Charlie cannon..
According to I believe it's called Star Trek worlds of t 13:10 he federation (1989) sigma iotia found the communicator and several decades later a message was received on Starfleet channels from the gangsters who had a very advanced society.
Not sure if its canonical tho.
Given the vastness of the galaxy and the extent of the Borg infestation, why presume there are only "billions" of Borg and not "trillions"?
What about the planet from Voyager that was stuck in a faster time variant that made decades pass in seconds to the Voyager crew?
Wasn't that planet a giant space donut?
They could have hung out for a couple of weeks and waited for them to develop transwarp
I figured that Section 31 check up on some of these like Azati prime because they do take security rather seriously 😐
I know they have know homeworld. But what about the Voth? Shouldn't we try to normalize communications with them. To prevent a war against doctrine?
Solais V, Minara II and a visit to Betazed would be on my list of must visits for updates. I would even like to see a ship manned by these extra sensory gifted people. Why should Marvel be the lone entity supporting the Deaf or perceptive?
Andy Robinson's A Stich in Time means nothing to Trek Culture? Also it's an occupied world
If anybody is in the states on May 4th and May 5th John Delancey aka Q will be at Galactic comics in Florence South Carolina
don't forget the Skagaren planet where humans had been forcibly settled in the episode "North Star".
There seems like two dozen of those "extant human colony" planets here and there in Trek. The one in "The 37s" and the one in "The Paradise Syndrome" quickly come to mind.
I would love to see a new Star Trek live action where they go to all the planets and also though brog space to see what has happened and maybe just like the voyager episode unity that would be good to know if the Borg who wasn't at ground zero and if they become a new civilization and what about uni matrix zero
The City on the Edge of Forever planet was restricted after the TOS episode, Right?
On a note Shoreleave planet disappeared by the 24th century. It's been noted it could have left because it wants to experience other galaxies.
I remember when last season's Picard series was airing, the Bluegills were the main suspect in a lot of fan theories as the main protagonists until it was revealed to be the Changelings and Borg. The Conspiracy symbiotes would have been a much fresher and better twist than screwing up more Borg and Changeling lore.
the triskelian planet. another tos one was the planet where some pre agricultural tribe was feeding a snake god that was actually a computer. the planet the artificial asteroid was heading for in"For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky."
I would have liked the USS Discovery visit Malcoria and Mintaka 3.
On leaving tech on pre warp worlds? Why didn't they just bean the tech back on board the ship?
You just wrote the ep list for the next seasons of LD and SNW.
I think you're all under control of the bugs from #8. You'd love to have us go there, wouldn't you?
did I just miss it, or did he intentionally leave out Platonius, Excalbia, and whatever that planet was that the Kelvans are on?
Organia (though it's probably under quarantine), Talos IV, or perhaps most of the planets discovered on the other side of the Bajoran wormhole prior to the Dominion getting pissy.
Definitely Talos. Just to see how Pike and Vena made out. And the planet where The Galileo shuttlecraft landed. See if those giant apes have evolved.
No contact with the Q and no reported contact with the Q are not the same thing, It's also not unimaginable to think the Q could simply wipe the memories of those they encounter if they wish to remain in the shadows.
The signal sent by Remmick was a huge missed opportunity for Star Trek: Voyager. I wouldn't have minded this being like a 2-part season finale/season premier episode.
We need to check in on Malcor III to see if they are ready for a second "first contact."
In Beta cannon the Iotians are a member world of the Federation and still talk like its the 1920’s.
I would not mind seeing a follow-up for the Ocampa, the Delta Quadrant's fishbowl. Did Kes go back home and help repair the damage to her planet, thereby saving a doomed species? Are they all able to use their mental abilities like her and the others they were in contact with during 'Fury'? Can the females of the world create more than one offspring? As written the Ocampa were at a genetic dead-end. Were they able to repel the Kazon at all?
Kavis Alpha IV, Velara III, The Dyson Sphere, Drema IV, Aldea and The Teplan homeworld would be interesting to revisit.
Omega IV anyone?
I'd like to know what happened to the Founders after the end of the Dominion War.
I like to think the blue gills were tracked down and eradicated by Section 31.
In Lower Decks episode about "Buffer Time" they showed a distant future of the Federation where there was a classroom teaching students about the Boimler Effect (and the greatest hero of the Federation) and you can see there was a Borg student in the class among other Federation member species. So the Borg are still around down the road.
What about that planet of immortals, the Kai was left on.
Thats my second choice, my first is Aldeans from tng episode when the bough breaks
Azati Prime is shown in completely the wrong place according to everything I have seen previously with ST maps. That area shown is smack in between the Romulan Empire, the Klingon Empire, and the developing federation when the Expanse should be on the other side of Sector 001, more off in the boonies away from the other great powers (on the upper left of the map shown at 2:08). That’s what every previous map I’ve seen shows.
After the spheres where destroyed space changed
Other ones to check would be the various visitors from outside the Milky Way Galaxy. Like the ones from TOS that was turning everyone into little cubes (Kelvans), the creators of the World Eater from TOS, the creators of the telepathic spaceship that was lonely and wanted a crew in TNG, the ornithoids, the Nacene (caretakers from Voyager), the species at the center of the MilkyWay that made Barkley super intelligent. and so many others. So many various species to follow up on.
I believe it was said in the one with the sentient ship, that the species that created it had been dead for centuries.
#2: They did mention Iconian survivors in Discovery season 4
In my own head canon, after the Federation was founded by the Humans, Vulcans, Tellarites and Andorians, within a year the Xindi had petitioned to join them and are just as common a sight in the Federation as the other aliens. They're, Uh, just right off camera all the time.