@@Aquarios1337. I know, but if the intent was to use the other staff to "save FP" while still getting decent scaling, it should be noted that you're actually spending more if you're holding both.
@@wigglyjiggly4498 The intent would be to utilize the better scaling of your primary staff and fortify your damage output. Though, haven't actually tested if the damage is buffed with it in the off-hand, now that I think about it; had only tested the FP cost.
@@Aquarios1337. Again, the point he's making is that you should use the carian regal for general mobbing efficiency, and the lusat's for bosses. I found it important to let people who didn't already know, to not have both staffs out at the same time if they're trying to conserve FP. That is all.
Bonus protip for Ranni's Dark Moon: This is also a cold spell, meaning that equipping Ranni's hat boosts it even further. It also has the base enemy resistance reduction of Rennala's but with the added bonus of being able to trigger Frostbite pretty quickly for another big debuff. You'll probably want to KAMEHAMEHA in solo play but if you're playing as a summon, a double boosted resistance-reducing homing nuke is *super* helpful. Your host will love you because this also works with terrible ping/connections. Be a homie and use homing spells in co-op.
Edit: I read the comment wrong but the following is still good info if you're wondering if an equipment bonus works with a specific skill/spell. Original comment: I've seen posts on reddit about this. Someone even compiled a list of which equipment buffs affect which magic attack. I'd link it but I think links usually get comments deleted (depends on the youtuber though) But anyway, Ranni's Snow Witch Hat does not buff the Dark Moon Greatsword's *skill* as the wording on the description of the hat says "Cold *sorceries*" Sorceries != Skills Sorceries != Incantations too so the Terra Magicus doesn't buff the spells you cast with Sacred Seals
@@cybunny25 There's a spell called Ranni's Dark Moon, that's what we're talking about. It's a massively upgraded Rennala's Moon that's also cold and applies frostbite, yet somehow requires slightly less INT to cast.
@@Zinras yeah sorry I read this comment just as the video was showing the Dark Moon Greatsword and I read it wrong lol. I'll keep it up because it's still good info though
Prince of Death staff is amazing in that hybrid build because it’s… the only real option. Honestly, having that spell variety makes it really interesting to run, but kind of a challenge UNTIL you get your hybrid scaling Seal and Staff in the forms of the Golden Order Seal and the Prince of Death staff.
I do it on my ng+2/ng+3 on 180-220 level. Somewhere at that point you have just enough points everywhere like 50 Vigor, 30-38 mind, some endurance, 60-80 in both faith and int
From what I'm aware of, Dark Moon does not boost damage by 30%, it reduces the enemies magic resistance by 30%, not the same thing. So If they resisted 20% magic damage, they now resist 30% less than 20%, not -10%, but instead they get debuffed to 14% resistance. So you'd be doing 6% more with subsequent attacks. The upside here is if you proc frostbite which further increases subsequent damage taken.
In fact, the spell in itself only reduce 10% of magic negation. If the frosbite proc (which reduce 20% of all damages negation), the yes it's a ~30% magic negation and 20% damage negation, but that's only if.
You can always use the Infinite FP teardrop so you won't have to worry about running out of mana when buffing up to one shot a boss. Simple set up could be Scepter and Lusat staff equipped, use Mixed Physik flask + Terra Magica + Rannis Full moon for extra damage negation or just straight up Comet Azur after Terra and you should be able to one obliterate anything in your way
Hitting them with it is the challenge. Comet Azur is easily evaded if: 1. The enemy isn't staggered 2. They are out of optimum range 3. They hit you before you can cast it The devs made sure most bosses have enough agility to stuff your ass with their weapons. Long Cast attacks take timing and setup to land them in the relatively short window you get to hurt the boss. Without summons to distract the boss, you won't even get the chance to hit them. Crystal Torrent mitigates this with its shotgun cone attack but its lower DPS means you won't down the boss all the time. However, Unlimited FP Works are amazing with a mass barrage of homing attacks as they make the BS dodge rate of enemies pointless.
Fun fact: Staves passives are active regardless if they are casting their spells so when going for a burst phase with the Infinite FP flask it’s worthwhile to dual wield the Azur Staff with whatever your damage staff is for the extra cast speed for the phase.
@@skylerruin equipped in your hand. Like left hand azur and right hand lusat. I cast spell with lusat it still benefits from the equipped azur passive for increased speed and fp cost
@@Nox_Lunatera i tested them( regal and meteorite), wield both and cast with regal it deals more damage(rock sling) than using only regal. I dont know if those still works in the new patch tho.
This only seems to work with certain staffs, the meteorite staff buff worked from offhand using carians to cast for me but lusats and azurs did not for example. I believe that the spell type buff staffs work for this, but the flat stat boost staffs (damage or cast speed) do not. I could not get azurs or lusats to work like meteorite did
@@Nox_Lunatera Works for me, seems to be about a 30% damage increase on both collapsing star and rock sling. Edit: Just tested to confirm. With 70 int, my rocksling does 933 on a non-surprised target with Carian+9 and meteorite in offhand. It does 717 with no meteorite staff equipped, just using the Carian+9. It definitely works, and always has. That is precisely a 30% damage increase. I tested it with collapsing star to the same results.
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Something I feel should be added here: offhand cast speed boosts apply no matter which staff you're using. Using the azure staff, not even upgraded, in your offhand will still increase your artificial dexterity and boost your cast speed significantly.
@@arcanumelite4853 the point is you can get higher scaling staffs to get the buffs from the lesser scaling staffs even if the fp cost is higher its better than just the azure staff
The Spinning Weapon on the Renalla staff is actually incredible and not a drawback. It’s not the same as the ash of war you can find. It does massive magic damage, has huge stagger, and extends outward like the one Renalla uses against you. You ought to try it out. It’s amazing in a pinch to get a melee enemy off of you. Hits 4 times.
There is another thing to take into account. You can dual wield staves. If you mostly use gravity spells, you can have meteorite staff in the offhand and cast with lusat, and the spell will still get the meteorite staff buff. This applies to ALL staves that boost a specific type of sorcery. You don't need to cast with it to get the boost, just have it in the hands when you cast. So you actually need 3-5 staves to maximum damage. Lusat and carian scepter in one hand, and the one to three staves that boost your most used spells in the other.
Only at like 68-70 intelligence does it start outperforming other staves. For hybrid builds that don’t go further than 50 or 60, it’s actually worse than the Academy Glintstone Staff. The Carian Regal Scepter relies heavily on that super duper S scaling.
@@shonixgaming3076 Well, endgame is endgame, and PVP meta level isn't relevant if anyone is going for minmaxed sorcery. Carian remains exceptionally powerful for its versatile ash and all around usability.
@@FelisImpurrator well I’m speaking more from a hybrid perspective too. 60 is a good stopping point for that, and it seems a lot of the other staves with their passive boosts tend to do some real work - the disadvantage being you’re kind of stuck using only those lol. But yeah, if you’re going to hit level 200-300 then what I say doesn’t really matter lol.
@@shonixgaming3076 True. Academy Glintstone is best at 60. If you're going for a dual caster hybrid IntFai at 60/60 and going full glass cannon at about 150, though, Golden Order and PoD is probably the best way to dual wield...
@@FelisImpurrator That's what's so great about this game tbh. It's so much better than DS3 where your only options were Court Sorcerer or *maybe* Crystal Sage under certain circumstances. XD
Thank you for this video! I’m doing a dex/ int character. So I’m casting spell’s with Lusat’s and Demi-human staff on my left hand and using moonveil katana on my right hand. Having the staves on my left allows me to perform moonveil’s special while being able to take distance with spells. I know I should respect my character (samurai), but I’m tried rebirth on my character and adjusted 52 int and 34 dex. Currently level 104 on first gameplay
Cool build, I recommend Loretta's War Sickle once you can get it. I do a sword spells-oriented build and it's been far and away my favorite assist weapon for poking, mixups, and the weapon art hits like a truck. Maybe not as much as moonveil though lol
Aww. Please look into the Regal Scepter's weapon skill. Normally this ash of war is garbage, but the "weapon spin" on the Carrian Regal staff is a unique version of the ash that scales with sorc scalling, and is absolutely broken. It's my favorite skill in the game. It does crazy damage and can stunlock almost anything even players in pvp. I pretty much stopped needed a close range weapon after leveling this staff up. Stunlocking all the cleanrot Knights in haligtree and getting to the end easily at level 80 with this staff is pretty funny. Killing someone in pvp who rushes you with a single weapon spin? So funny.
Thanks for the tip. I had pretty much written it off as just a flavor thing, since habit is to wallop something that gets near me with my sword, rather than use the spin.
I always have it on my offhand so my main hand can use other weapon and get their WA by pressing L2, for example Resolve. It feel better to hit with those weapon as well. Relana staff WA may be nice but still you are not using resolve and it is kind of awkward to two hand your left hand weapon to use resolve instead of just make it right hand.
Fair thing to note, if you have a staff in your off hand, its buff still applies to your main hand. IE, rock sling does more damage with the Lusat's staff if you're holding a meteorite staff in the other hand. So while you're clearing levels, you probably want to have the staff, but keep it put away, otherwise you'll still take more mana costs. Though, that stacking damage is insane if you do lunar sorcery with lusat's staff. It slaps so hard.
Late here, but one extremely minor thing that is worth noting is that different staves have different scaling ranges department on different intelligence and faith scores. It's not just flat progression. For example, the Demi-Human Scepter has the best intelligence scaling among upgraded staves* until 41 intelligence or so, at which point the Academy Staff starts to outpace it; and the Carian Scepter actually takes quite a few more levels beyond it's minimum requirement before it surpasses the Academy Staff, at similar upgrade levels. And the Prince of Death staff is actually surpassed by the Gelmir Magma staff until 40-something Intelligence and Faith (though that staff is only a rare drop from the sorcerer lizard right before the portal to Rykard, so technically harder to get than the Prince's staff). Josh's advice here is mostly for pure magic casters going big. For hybrid builds or lower level characters, there's still much more to consider. *The meteorite staff is surpassed by regular upgrade paths by the 12 to 16 point, by somber upgrade paths by 6 or so.
Rennala's full moon also debuffs the enemy, but the point of taking ranni's version is to apply frostbite and buff it using the snow witch set. And frostbite applies a damage bonus to your enemy so even with both applying the defense debuff, rannis will be better, if not a little mana inefficient
I was introduced to this channel when Monster Hunter World came out, now I've started watching the channel again with Elden Ring. The humor and great info makes this channel one of the best.
100% the best mage explanation ive seen on YT so far. I started the game with a pure STRENGTH build. (Now im Lv. 116) And Just decided I wanted to try mage. Have NO IDEA how and this helped so much!. Thank You
i used carian regal scepter on my very first playthrough (basically a pure mage build) but i'm thinking of doing faith/int build later (NG+++) and now i'm so excited for the prince of death staff.
Just something to note, the mana cost for lusat’s while fine for lower costing spells, is crippling for high mana spells that already need a lot and with lusat’s cost ridiculous amount with based on my experience, especially for comet azure which even with 60 mind, it can barely be held for a few moments while with the carina regal it can be held for seconds without stopping.
If you want to use the big spells out of major enemies fights you can wear the primal glintstone blade which lowers fp cost and hp. For the big spells it brings it down a lot. Comet azur with luset staff is 60 but 40 normally and with the charm it’s 45 with lusets staff
Comet Azur is a garbage spell once the infinite fp flask has worn off anyways. I have 35 Mind and no issues using Lusat’s as my only staff. My flask is +12 and fully fills my fp bar from 0 and there’s a really powerful Talisman that lowers fp cost and your maximum hp which helps neutralize the fp increase from Lusat’s to nearly nonexistence.
Reminder you can carry a second staff in your other hand and get its bonus to specific sorceries even when using the other staff. So if you are using Lusats staff to cast Dark Moon while holding the Carian staff in your other hand, you will still deal the bonus damage from the Carian staff. So if you are rocking two staves for efficiency just dual wield them and you are golden.
@@quinnrose4627 It's an ash of war, Determination. And an even better one, Royal Knight's Resolve. Rage has a video for acquiring that. Even if it's fixed to consume the buff like it "should", big spells like Azur or Founding Rain or Stars of Ruin should still be an efficient use of 80% damage to your next move.
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I actually really enjoy Azur's Staff, sure the extra cast speed might not seem that fast but honestly I can't take it off, especially since the enemies and bosses attack much faster than you can cast.
Stronglt agree. Azur's staff makes Comet almost as fast as base speed Glinstone pebble, but with like 4x the damage and twice the range. Just an absolute boss melter
Its possible because he probably has rune arc enable plus the talismans that boosts certain stats plus his class starting with 16 INT if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure if there's something else but yeah the maths are there!
OK. I've been playing a sorcery build for a while and not ONCE did the thought of dual welding staffs occur to me. You have opened my mind to further glintstone bullshit. Thank you
I use the speed bonus staff, while it’s minor, I can hit people quicker in pvp and it makes all the difference, especially with quick spells like the carian slicer. Against other sorcerers I can hit them before they get their spells of and then the higher dmg doesn’t really matter then (it doesn’t always work but when it does it’s pretty funny)
Prince of Death will have very poor scaling up to unless you go 80/80. I tested with 60Int/50faith and it had 300 scaling at +24. Royal Scepter +10 has 373 at 80 int for comparison. All staves mentioned in the video have "backloaded" scaling meaning that you get MORE increase per stat point as you approach 80 Int/Faith hard cap. There are NO Soft Caps for the top tier staves (Crystal Staff , Carian Regal Scepter, Prince of Death's Staff, Azur's Glintstone Staff, Lusat's Glintstone Staff, Rotten Crystal Staff, Staff of Loss). Only hard cap of 80. Sorcery users are highly encouraged to push for 80 in a stat Scaling breakpoints work as follows for the mentioned staves: 0 - 25 - good value per stat point (1% potential gain) 25 - 62 - slightly better value per stat point (1.1% potential gain) 62 - 80 - great value per stat point (1.5% potential gain) 80 - 99 - very poor value per stat point (0.25% potential gain) Source: libredd.it/r/Eldenring/comments/tc3lyy/helpful_charts_for_offensive_stat_scaling/
Worth mentioning that the Prince of Death Staff is also good for any hybrid build that runs the Sword of Night and Flame and maybe wants to stop at 50 the softcap for both INT & FAI
@@IceNinja18 80 is the hard cap. INT, FAI and ARC have a softer cap at 50, at least for weapon scaling. Not sure if spell scaling follows the same rule.
@@VincentsVideoVisions I don’t work lol so all my free time was given to this game lol. By day three I was already about 30 hours in at least lol. And fast tracked it to Liurnia cause I knew that was the mage place, and hard leveled all my stats into intelligence lol. I beat rennala at level 56 I think IIRC
@@brandonl4663 hey we all play how we like to play. I just don’t like switching weapons when fighting when I feel just as effective. To each their own.
Tip for anyone watching, if you already spent rennalas remembrance on the moon spell before duplication you can just get the crystals staff +10 & use that to knock enemies out the way just as effectively as the regal also you can get again in new game plus or new game in general so don’t feel like you took a big L lol
You're attitude is amazing. I was in a bad mood. Then I started this video and didn't even care about the subject of the video lmao your inflection gave me a happiness infection! 😂😂
One clarification for anybody unfamiliar: a hard cap is something you cannot go above. 99 is the hard cap in Elden Ring. 80 is the soft cap - diminishing returns crush the gains for each point after 80 making it not worth putting more points into. Those 19 points from 81-99 would be more useful somewhere else.
To clarify, it depends on what you're leveling. the hard cap for roughly half the attributes are 80 while others are 60 and the soft cap is usually around half that
And that too bad, coz you may want to use determination to have more powerfull spells. I think I will stick with the carian glintstone staff and thats it.
5:30 It's so funny to me that I found that staff and currently use it, but never realized that it has 50% more mana usage, I just shoot pebbles when I'm far away and hoarfrost stomp when I'm close. They just can't handle the cheese.
As appealing as it is, all of the death spells are very underwhelming. Rancorcall is ok, but its double the cost of pebble for less damage. The bonus is “better” tracking, but it also hits walls a lot more and travels much slower. The ancient death rancor costs even more and does around the same damage unless fully charged. Ghostflame explosion is ok. Overall, these spells with something like helphen’s steeple or death’s poker look cool, but don’t expect anything too practical.
I heard rank or call does good stagger damage. Maybe that's why it's weaker? The stagger in the tracking make it a good way to keep bosses immobile. Also I think it does better damage with the prince of death staff. Scales with intelligence and faith.
@@ohmbasa yes it does get a slight boost with the prince of death’s staff, but its not a lot. At both 80 int and faith, it will outdamage 80 int lusat, but that’s still double the points invested for slightly more damage. As for the poise damage, you won’t really be doing much with that. Either you have a few more seconds to throw in more rancorcalls that were already surpassed by glintstone pebbles, or you go in for a melee crit that won’t do anything because all your points are in int and faith
I agree… with the sorceries and incantations overall. There’s less than a handful that are useful on a practical level without being massively leveled. I wish they would’ve made a better scaling/level progression bonus for those abilities. Just better balancing to make most of them worth using. The game is still fun, but there’s a lot of selection without adding any desire to change things up. Of course I say that as I’m running around as a naked Wretch… just to spice things up a little.
@@brad5204 those two are used for different things... ranc is a fire and forget spell. Cast it a few times and move onto something else, unless you are fighting a boss like malenia, where it stagger locks her.
also he says 'carian staff +magic dmg boost from ranni's dark moon will just do as much dmg as the lusat staff' but he forget that spell also gives debuff on lusat staff. its just a poorly made guide
@@ksphiml I think the point was the damage difference of the moon ITSELF was negligible at best so it isn't worth casting with the 50% FP increase. Afterwards, yes switch to the big pp staff.
Went into the game wanting an int/faith build so this is perfect for me. Also got the golden order seal cause it scales with int and faith as well. Also just got every spell and incantation in the game so my arsenal is loaded!
The golden order seal scale REEEALLY well. As an int/faith with the split scaling catalysts incantations generally hit harder. Havent pushed my staff past +60 in both though so who knows for higher
@@chasegreaser1166 Absolutely love my build. Overall sorcery does more damage but the incantation buffs and dmg negations help a bunch plus the faith weapons are incredible. and it’s just cool being able to bust out any type of magic that you need. Definitely won’t be able to stay in the meta for it but the high level pvp is way more fun in my opinion.
@@radonculous9158 do you mind if I ask you for tips, for PvE mostly. I'm level 30. Picked astrologer. I have spells pebble. The big and fast ones. A sword magic buff. Glintblade. A magic sword swipes. And rock sling. Inc. I just have a fireball and catch flame. And 4 memory slots A regular finger seal and the meteorite staff. 23/15 int/faith.(my faith actually lower but I have a talisman that increases it) I beat the tree sentinel. And that one dude with the magic hammer. I still feel weak and repetitive. For weapons I just have a normal shield and a sword. Any tips on what's the next of becoming powerful and/or more fun. I'm aiming to get the sword of night and flame when my levels are high enough. But that's it. Any tips would be appreciated 👍.
So this is for not only other players, but for RageGaming as well. You can equip a staff in each hand and benefit from both. I killed Malenia with Rock Sling. Yes, I did. Just Rock Sling. However, I had Lusat in the left hand and casted from there to gain the higher damage at higher FP cost, but when you have Meteorite Staff in your right hand you get the "increases damage to Gravity spells" effect. I killed 90% of bosses with Rock Sling, including Margit at lvl 14 and Godrick at lvl 19. The big aspect to Rocks is that they stun really easily. 3 to 4 hits (must hit with all 3 rocks per cast) to get this to work but it's good. Most stun animations are long so you can drink a potion to recover FP and keep slinging before the enemy can really respond. If you're using Mimic, they can sling as well but will often go through all the memorized spells in a random order. Give them quick cast spells and what this does is have the bosses trade off attention between you and the Mimic so frequently that neither of you gets hurt that much. If you don't want to do Sling and prefer other spells, use a staff for that style of spells. If you want to juice up Azur, then you cast from Lusat and you put Carian Regal in your right hand to stack the scaling. Killed Mogh in 8 seconds at lvl 90 or so. Fun stuff.
SO staff question since your doing so much testing rage, if you have the meteor staff in the left hand and lusats in the other and cast a gravity spell from the lusats does it get the damage buff from the meteors staff passive or vis versus??
both but dmg boost stack is multiplicative not additive so its not as good, and the more practical thing to do when boosting sorcery is having royal knight resolve on one of ur slot so its more ideal
@@quanbach7503 multiplicative increases are better than additive increases. Additive decreases are better than multiplicative decreases. So you're wrong.
@@quanbach7503 I dont want to rely on the knights resolve combo since I fear that will get patched sometime in the near future, but yeah thats some big damage
Like the other guys said royal knight resolve is better. But before activating it I'd recommend using sacred oath. It apparently works on magic damage too
Staffs / Seals also scale with str and dex and stuff, just look at the scalings like Carian Regal Scepter STR D, DEX D so it also scales with those two
Honestly, I was expecting the sorcery scaling to be higher for the Prince of Death's Staff at 80-80. I was hoping for crazy damage for the stat investment
@@amethonys2798 This. You can put the extra 70 levels somewhere else and get much greater benefits. And even if you just want to use the sword of night and flame, you can just put 45 (if your base is 10) on faith, so you can have another 25 points on another stat. The only reason why you would want 80-80 faith/int is because you want to cast both spells and incantations at the soft cap for each. Otherwise, the extra 70 point investment for hybrid scaling does not pay out well.
All dark souls have a diminishing return in all aspects as you get further and further, this applies for both stats and equipment, this is why you notice as staves got higher and higher rated they got closer and closer to eachother in damage.
Totally agree! Carian Regal and Lusat's are definitely the best two. I did discover something which I hope others can confirm or debunk: The staff on your off-hand transfers its bonus to the staff on your main hand. So a meteorite staff on your left will buff gravity sorceries cast on your right-hand staff. HOWEVER, if you have the Lusat's on your left and the Carian Regal on your right, you will find that the 50% extra FP from Lusat's applies WITHOUT any 8% sorcery buff boosting the spells cast with your right-hand staff. So basically, never have the Lusat's in your off-hand when you cast a spell with your main hand staff.
@@lunariangoddess1206 It looks like that was fixed in the patch 1.0.3, but it might have only been other weapons. Can't wait to test and see if spells still get boosted
It would depend on how it's calculated. If the % mods are additive then it would cancel out Azur's and reduce Lusat's to 25%. If they're applied in sequence then it would actually be a noticable reduction. Lusat's would be a 12.5% increase and Azur's would be a 6.25% decrease.
@@sr71silver Hmm. Multipliers are almost always multiplicative calculation in Elden Ring... If you test it, get back to this thread and maybe post it on reddit?
Since my int was at 80 and my faith at 60 I went ahead and started using this staff got my faith to 80 and hands down the best staff in the game atm. I tested it against all the others and seems Faith and int are ment to be together once death magic gets a buff it's over.
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0:36 Hilarious 😂 The monster is trying to flee but just can't 😂 It's like my gameplay, but from the monster's point of view 🤗 Ah bro you're a killer at this x)
Actually, the highest damage staff would be dual wielding the Lusat staff and the Prince of Death staff. Lusat and Azur staff buffs are applied to the character, not the spell. Therefore you can claim the speed of Azur staff whilst doing the damage of a Lusat staff. (and vice versa)
@@arcanumelite4853 yes, but you simply unequip lusat for trash and flask up for the boss you need this for max damage on. If you can't be bothered to micro that one button then that's a definite 'you' problem.
Actually using Lusat's in 1 hand and then using either Carian Glinstone staff to boost Adula's or Meteorite to boost gravity spells in another hand ( in world where determination/royal knight's resolve doesn't work) is far superior, azur's staff benefit is outclassed by 2 mentioned staves at no drawbacks, both mentioned staves actually boost spells used by your main hand even while held in off hand, making adula's blade which is already dumb even more broken in non boss situations and rock sling even more busted in boss/mounted encounters.
So no Academy staff... Got it. Never considered dual welding staffs. Great vid😎 Just let me port over my insect glaive and I wouldn't have to worry about every little detail. Lol
Definitely useful 👌 but as a battlemage running a moonlight greatsword I found the Azurs staff just meshes with my look the best. I do feel the speed increase enough to justify it as well, I could run that talisman instead for extra cast speed buuut I find the fp talisman with both speed/extra stamina talismans better fit for me. Plus the extra sorcery potency talisman adds enough to have my spells hit hard enough. But forsure if I was 100% caster then I would go with what the video says.
For battle mage, Regal scepter is the best I think. You just cast a moon spell then a terra magnus thing then switch to your sword of night and flame/moonveil/hoarfrost weapon and spam those skills and nuke the boss with very little fp cost
@@skyacaniadev2229 sounds strong forsure, I personally love the bow/swords sorcery so I just mainly use those. And the moonlight just looks really sick compared to the smaller swords. However Malenias sword is something I wanna build around and it'll look sick with my battlemage idea. I guess I'm more for the looks then all out damage. I feel balanced especially in pvp.
It scales off int for the magic and Faith for the fire damage, and dex/Strength for the physical damage!, I use Carian Regal Scepter(, upgraded to be better then meteorite staff) and then MoonVeil/Sword of anight and Flame in my right hand. Also sword of st Trina is dope AF for fun play as well and coop to make your friends laugh
So I changed my build to be a sorc/faith hybrid, using the Prince of death staff and the erdtree seal... and oh boy that dual scaling is nice, but I am level 190 now thanks to end game rune farming 😄
@@Homiloko2 already fully upgraded, and honestly... I prefer rocking massive poise, slicer attacks and support spells. It's just s preference, but I swap my build up a lot. Deciding what I want to play for ng+. That sword is insane though
You want to switch to golden order if you are Int/faith. The scaling is way higher than erdtree seal since the golden order is based off Int/faith. Example: 70 Int and 41 faith is around 320ish incant scaling on a +9 golden order seal
Been searching for this kinda vid for a long time but now here I have a complete rundown on when to use which staff why and more. couldnt ask for a better staff Video. Tank you man keep it up 😁🤙
Something weird regarding staves is that any of them that increase the fp cost (for either increased spell speed/damage) do so even for your other staves, yet they don't get the benefits from the staff with the effect (Lusat's & Azurs dmg/spell speed), just the fp increase. If it's a passive effect like "boosts gravity", that somehow affects the other staff.
I remember this channel way back when you made fish spider industries and the minecraft build contests. I was super surprised when I saw the channel name when looking up ER stuff
On the lower end cast speed greatly outshines sorcery scaling, as the cast speed is always effected at the same percentage. Not every spell is affected though, long casting/charge spells don't really get change (Which is dumb in my opinion) but the fast casting chained spells you will see a noticeable difference. So Azur's staff will give you more dps on the lower maybe even higher end, just depends on the spells.
Its possible with talismans like Marika's Soreseal, Two Fingers Heirloom, Stargazer Heirloom, Godrick's Great Rune etc. Of you notice the rest of his stats are really low..
"a hard cap is the number where every point into that stat afterwards is basically worthless" that is just factually incorrect. you are still describing soft caps. Hard caps are the maximum value a stat can reach.
Lusats staff also has a C scaling in strength so wouldn't you have to take strength up to 80 in order to see what it's actual sorcery scaling would be? If you tested one at the cap for both scaling stats it would only make sense to do the other.
Could someone clarify about the damage status of a weapon? I have a moonveil katana and it scales with dexterity and intelligence. Is intelligence applied to physical damage as well? Or intelligence just scales with the weapon's magic attack. I'm wondering if the physical and magic damage of the weapon are a sum of the numbers in intelligence AND also in dexterity, or if they are separate.
So when a weapon does 2 different damage types, like Physical and Magical, it's scaling "can", but not always be effected by different stats. Like with lots of Dex + Int weapons, higher dex increases the physical damage it does while higher INT increases the magical damage it deals. Then you also have to consider different enemies have different resistances, so while one boss might be weak to physical, another might be weak to magic. Then one boss could even be strong against both physical and magic, so you better have a backup plan. (The ability to deal fire or holy when needed) When looking at a weapon that deals 2 different types of damage, you can see how your own stats are boosting it's dmg right in the detail window. The number after the + sign is how much your own stats are boosting the weapons base dmg. You can just equip like a +dex or +int Talisman to see how much the difference is and how much dmg each point of the stat is giving you. Keep in mind though, the higher level you upgrade a weapon to, the better scaling it gets, so the damage it gets per stat point will increase as well.
@@nokturnallex2160 cool! So if i pump int, it will raise my magic dmg on my moonveil, but im going to deal more damage with the normal attacks, but it will count as a mix of physical and magical damage. This is it?
@@joaov2374 Yep, also keep in mind there's multiple ways to enchant weapons, but certain weapons can't be enchanted. General rule is if you can't change the art of war on it you can't change the type of damage it deals, but there are exceptions, like the Treespear deals Holy + Physical damage, but can also be enchanted to deal only Holy damage via it's Art of War or you could also enchant it with consumables + spells to change it to a different damage type of your choosing. When you're using a weapon whose art of War can change, having different Whetstone Knives (you'll find them during the game) allows you to also change the way it scales and change it to deal a different damage type, like Fire, Holy, or Magic. So while Moonveil can't change it's damage type, you could also use any of the regular Katanas as a backup weapon that you could replace the Art of War anytime you want and also enchant them to deal the damage type of your choosing, like having a 2ndary Katana do Fire damage to kill enemies weak to fire easier. (Like Erdtree Guardians)
@@nokturnallex2160 cool! Im using moonveil + uchigatana (with frost stomp) on right hand and staff + nagakiga (with bloodhound lightling) on left hand. This way i have the frost and magic + pure physical power stance with dual katana with lightling effect . I was wondering if i could change the weapon art affinity to stack int and still deals damage on normal attack to power stance. Thanks mate! You helped a lot and had patience!
Nice catch bud. I'm very late game and still using the meteor staff. 🤦♂️ In my defense I do use the meteors themselves quite a bit. Carion staff it is! 🧙♂️
WARNING: if you have Lusats in a different hand, even if you aren’t casting with it, you will still incur the increased FP cost!
To be fair, you also get the damage boost during that
@@Aquarios1337. I know, but if the intent was to use the other staff to "save FP" while still getting decent scaling, it should be noted that you're actually spending more if you're holding both.
@@wigglyjiggly4498 The intent would be to utilize the better scaling of your primary staff and fortify your damage output. Though, haven't actually tested if the damage is buffed with it in the off-hand, now that I think about it; had only tested the FP cost.
@@Aquarios1337. Again, the point he's making is that you should use the carian regal for general mobbing efficiency, and the lusat's for bosses. I found it important to let people who didn't already know, to not have both staffs out at the same time if they're trying to conserve FP. That is all.
@@wigglyjiggly4498 Fair enough.
12:20 Is when he specifies which staff is better for FP cost and for which staff deals more damage
Thank fuck he was talking so much 😭
Thank you.
@Chin Up why women
Can you specific the name? Im not good at listening english
@@Trenshi. Lusat's Glinstone Staff is the best.
Bonus protip for Ranni's Dark Moon: This is also a cold spell, meaning that equipping Ranni's hat boosts it even further. It also has the base enemy resistance reduction of Rennala's but with the added bonus of being able to trigger Frostbite pretty quickly for another big debuff. You'll probably want to KAMEHAMEHA in solo play but if you're playing as a summon, a double boosted resistance-reducing homing nuke is *super* helpful. Your host will love you because this also works with terrible ping/connections. Be a homie and use homing spells in co-op.
Wait, Dark Moon double dips for sure? That's hilarious. I wish Rennala's actually did more, considering the 2 Int higher requirement.
Edit: I read the comment wrong but the following is still good info if you're wondering if an equipment bonus works with a specific skill/spell.
Original comment:
I've seen posts on reddit about this. Someone even compiled a list of which equipment buffs affect which magic attack. I'd link it but I think links usually get comments deleted (depends on the youtuber though)
But anyway, Ranni's Snow Witch Hat does not buff the Dark Moon Greatsword's *skill* as the wording on the description of the hat says "Cold *sorceries*"
Sorceries != Skills
Sorceries != Incantations too so the Terra Magicus doesn't buff the spells you cast with Sacred Seals
@@cybunny25 There's a spell called Ranni's Dark Moon, that's what we're talking about. It's a massively upgraded Rennala's Moon that's also cold and applies frostbite, yet somehow requires slightly less INT to cast.
@@Zinras yeah sorry
I read this comment just as the video was showing the Dark Moon Greatsword and I read it wrong lol.
I'll keep it up because it's still good info though
Oh my Lord you have changed my opinion of the moon spell
Prince of Death staff is amazing in that hybrid build because it’s… the only real option. Honestly, having that spell variety makes it really interesting to run, but kind of a challenge UNTIL you get your hybrid scaling Seal and Staff in the forms of the Golden Order Seal and the Prince of Death staff.
I'm going str/fth for ng. Int/fth will probably be my ng+1 playthrough
Yeah it''s definitely intended for a late respec or straight NG+ gameplay.
I do it on my ng+2/ng+3 on 180-220 level. Somewhere at that point you have just enough points everywhere like 50 Vigor, 30-38 mind, some endurance, 60-80 in both faith and int
From what I'm aware of, Dark Moon does not boost damage by 30%, it reduces the enemies magic resistance by 30%, not the same thing. So If they resisted 20% magic damage, they now resist 30% less than 20%, not -10%, but instead they get debuffed to 14% resistance. So you'd be doing 6% more with subsequent attacks. The upside here is if you proc frostbite which further increases subsequent damage taken.
In fact, the spell in itself only reduce 10% of magic negation. If the frosbite proc (which reduce 20% of all damages negation), the yes it's a ~30% magic negation and 20% damage negation, but that's only if.
He literally said, "Damage taken DEBUFF." So if you listened carefully he's saying exactly what you said.
@@Mimsism the 10% is specifically rennala's full moon, ranni's dark moon - the spell they're referring to - does in fact do a 30% reduction
@@V.VIIIBeanman A damage taken debuff is not the same thing as a damage resistance reduction
@@V.VIIIBeanman actually he said "you'll be doing 30% more damage"
You can always use the Infinite FP teardrop so you won't have to worry about running out of mana when buffing up to one shot a boss. Simple set up could be Scepter and Lusat staff equipped, use Mixed Physik flask + Terra Magica + Rannis Full moon for extra damage negation or just straight up Comet Azur after Terra and you should be able to one obliterate anything in your way
Hitting them with it is the challenge. Comet Azur is easily evaded if:
1. The enemy isn't staggered
2. They are out of optimum range
3. They hit you before you can cast it
The devs made sure most bosses have enough agility to stuff your ass with their weapons. Long Cast attacks take timing and setup to land them in the relatively short window you get to hurt the boss. Without summons to distract the boss, you won't even get the chance to hit them. Crystal Torrent mitigates this with its shotgun cone attack but its lower DPS means you won't down the boss all the time.
However, Unlimited FP Works are amazing with a mass barrage of homing attacks as they make the BS dodge rate of enemies pointless.
Fun fact: Staves passives are active regardless if they are casting their spells so when going for a burst phase with the Infinite FP flask it’s worthwhile to dual wield the Azur Staff with whatever your damage staff is for the extra cast speed for the phase.
What do you mean? Having it equipped or held in offhand or simply obtaining it and having it in you inventory?
@@skylerruin equipped in your hand. Like left hand azur and right hand lusat. I cast spell with lusat it still benefits from the equipped azur passive for increased speed and fp cost
@@Nox_Lunatera i tested them( regal and meteorite), wield both and cast with regal it deals more damage(rock sling) than using only regal. I dont know if those still works in the new patch tho.
This only seems to work with certain staffs, the meteorite staff buff worked from offhand using carians to cast for me but lusats and azurs did not for example. I believe that the spell type buff staffs work for this, but the flat stat boost staffs (damage or cast speed) do not. I could not get azurs or lusats to work like meteorite did
@@Nox_Lunatera Works for me, seems to be about a 30% damage increase on both collapsing star and rock sling.
Edit: Just tested to confirm. With 70 int, my rocksling does 933 on a non-surprised target with Carian+9 and meteorite in offhand. It does 717 with no meteorite staff equipped, just using the Carian+9. It definitely works, and always has. That is precisely a 30% damage increase. I tested it with collapsing star to the same results.
For anybody wondering about his armor I figured it out. He's using the Navy Hood, Noble's Traveling Garb, and the Scaled Gauntlet's / Grieves
I went and searched for the gear just to realize he's running a female character. I felt silly looking like Little Blue Riding Hood lol
Thank you for saving me the trouble, I appreciate your findings and will be putting them to use
I have this exact same outfit with astrologer gloves and carian greave looks much better
@@DevilDude666x available for a male as well I'm running it on my character
You can cast ranni's moon with lusat's while holding the regal scepter in your offhand for MEGA NUKE since the full moon sorcery boost will also apply
What kinda damage and say your int to tell me so i can understand the damage
As a Mage enthusiast, this channel had become my gospel for building my character. Thank you for creating vids dedicated to Magic builds.
You’ve become my favorite elden ring content creator!! Your vid’s make me so happy. Love your sense of humor and dedication to research
Thank you so much!
Yea bro happy your making elden content too I enjoyed all monster hunter and now this? For free? Lit
Honestly all of their content is amazing, found them through Monster Hunter World and they have continued to put out awesome content for more than just that game! Also that outro is quite catchy
I agree ☝️
Got introduced to them through monster hunter. Now elden ring lol
The noble set is so beautiful man I really love dying from even the lightest touch while looking absolutely fabulous
Something I feel should be added here: offhand cast speed boosts apply no matter which staff you're using. Using the azure staff, not even upgraded, in your offhand will still increase your artificial dexterity and boost your cast speed significantly.
yes but it still adds the +25% fp cost.. so if your also using lusats thats a total of +75% fp cost.
Lusat's buff and cost also both apply when equipped even if it isn't the staff used for casting.
@@arcanumelite4853 the point is you can get higher scaling staffs to get the buffs from the lesser scaling staffs even if the fp cost is higher its better than just the azure staff
Does it increase the FP cost of incantations?
@@SoI_Badguy i hope someone tests this
9:52
“Carian Staff”
**shows Carian Regal Scepter**
Carian Glintstone Staff:
“Do you mean me…?”
The Spinning Weapon on the Renalla staff is actually incredible and not a drawback. It’s not the same as the ash of war you can find. It does massive magic damage, has huge stagger, and extends outward like the one Renalla uses against you. You ought to try it out. It’s amazing in a pinch to get a melee enemy off of you. Hits 4 times.
There’s a vid of a guy beating malenia with that staffs ash of war
@@vessia6069 Wait what? I was using that staff in the fight against the whole time, why didn't I think to use the ash of war on her?! lmao
@@vessia6069 it staggers her really well! I was so surprised how much damage it does too. That staff is definitely the best all-arounder
YUP!!! It does even more damage than spells in a short time period. It melts enemies hp.
could u tell me its name cause i wanna look for it before heading to renalla
There is another thing to take into account.
You can dual wield staves. If you mostly use gravity spells, you can have meteorite staff in the offhand and cast with lusat, and the spell will still get the meteorite staff buff. This applies to ALL staves that boost a specific type of sorcery. You don't need to cast with it to get the boost, just have it in the hands when you cast. So you actually need 3-5 staves to maximum damage. Lusat and carian scepter in one hand, and the one to three staves that boost your most used spells in the other.
I think Carian is still the best overall. Jack of all trades. Decent damage but doesn’t eat through all your fp
Only at like 68-70 intelligence does it start outperforming other staves. For hybrid builds that don’t go further than 50 or 60, it’s actually worse than the Academy Glintstone Staff. The Carian Regal Scepter relies heavily on that super duper S scaling.
@@shonixgaming3076 Well, endgame is endgame, and PVP meta level isn't relevant if anyone is going for minmaxed sorcery. Carian remains exceptionally powerful for its versatile ash and all around usability.
@@FelisImpurrator well I’m speaking more from a hybrid perspective too. 60 is a good stopping point for that, and it seems a lot of the other staves with their passive boosts tend to do some real work - the disadvantage being you’re kind of stuck using only those lol.
But yeah, if you’re going to hit level 200-300 then what I say doesn’t really matter lol.
@@shonixgaming3076 True. Academy Glintstone is best at 60. If you're going for a dual caster hybrid IntFai at 60/60 and going full glass cannon at about 150, though, Golden Order and PoD is probably the best way to dual wield...
@@FelisImpurrator That's what's so great about this game tbh. It's so much better than DS3 where your only options were Court Sorcerer or *maybe* Crystal Sage under certain circumstances. XD
Thank you for this video! I’m doing a dex/ int character. So I’m casting spell’s with Lusat’s and Demi-human staff on my left hand and using moonveil katana on my right hand. Having the staves on my left allows me to perform moonveil’s special while being able to take distance with spells. I know I should respect my character (samurai), but I’m tried rebirth on my character and adjusted 52 int and 34 dex. Currently level 104 on first gameplay
Cool build, I recommend Loretta's War Sickle once you can get it. I do a sword spells-oriented build and it's been far and away my favorite assist weapon for poking, mixups, and the weapon art hits like a truck. Maybe not as much as moonveil though lol
Sword of night and flame + Prince of death's staff sorcery faith build sounds fun.
Grab the golden order seal to get that int/faith scaling on incantations too
It is. That's all use currently
It's interesting how the hybrid build is so heavily supported tbh
I'm having a lot more fun with pure int tbh. The sword of night and flame gets old.
@@tracyblanchard7663 The Lands Between being utterly saturated with magic makes it sensible in lore too.
Aww. Please look into the Regal Scepter's weapon skill. Normally this ash of war is garbage, but the "weapon spin" on the Carrian Regal staff is a unique version of the ash that scales with sorc scalling, and is absolutely broken. It's my favorite skill in the game. It does crazy damage and can stunlock almost anything even players in pvp. I pretty much stopped needed a close range weapon after leveling this staff up. Stunlocking all the cleanrot Knights in haligtree and getting to the end easily at level 80 with this staff is pretty funny. Killing someone in pvp who rushes you with a single weapon spin? So funny.
I haven't once used the weapon art in a combat based capacity. I might need to look into this more lol
Thanks for the tip. I had pretty much written it off as just a flavor thing, since habit is to wallop something that gets near me with my sword, rather than use the spin.
my mimic abuses this to stunlock bosses its great haha
I always have it on my offhand so my main hand can use other weapon and get their WA by pressing L2, for example Resolve. It feel better to hit with those weapon as well. Relana staff WA may be nice but still you are not using resolve and it is kind of awkward to two hand your left hand weapon to use resolve instead of just make it right hand.
@@KKKuma Resolve is now patched, it doesn’t boost sorceries anymore
I was just about test this staff. I've been bogged down with homework for a week now. You saved me so many smiting stones !!
Fair thing to note, if you have a staff in your off hand, its buff still applies to your main hand. IE, rock sling does more damage with the Lusat's staff if you're holding a meteorite staff in the other hand. So while you're clearing levels, you probably want to have the staff, but keep it put away, otherwise you'll still take more mana costs.
Though, that stacking damage is insane if you do lunar sorcery with lusat's staff. It slaps so hard.
Late here, but one extremely minor thing that is worth noting is that different staves have different scaling ranges department on different intelligence and faith scores. It's not just flat progression.
For example, the Demi-Human Scepter has the best intelligence scaling among upgraded staves* until 41 intelligence or so, at which point the Academy Staff starts to outpace it; and the Carian Scepter actually takes quite a few more levels beyond it's minimum requirement before it surpasses the Academy Staff, at similar upgrade levels.
And the Prince of Death staff is actually surpassed by the Gelmir Magma staff until 40-something Intelligence and Faith (though that staff is only a rare drop from the sorcerer lizard right before the portal to Rykard, so technically harder to get than the Prince's staff).
Josh's advice here is mostly for pure magic casters going big. For hybrid builds or lower level characters, there's still much more to consider.
*The meteorite staff is surpassed by regular upgrade paths by the 12 to 16 point, by somber upgrade paths by 6 or so.
Rennala's full moon also debuffs the enemy, but the point of taking ranni's version is to apply frostbite and buff it using the snow witch set. And frostbite applies a damage bonus to your enemy so even with both applying the defense debuff, rannis will be better, if not a little mana inefficient
i just started the game today, made astrology as it was new player friendly and i love mages. Thank you for all your vids :D
I was introduced to this channel when Monster Hunter World came out, now I've started watching the channel again with Elden Ring. The humor and great info makes this channel one of the best.
Same!
What humor
100% the best mage explanation ive seen on YT so far. I started the game with a pure STRENGTH build. (Now im Lv. 116) And Just decided I wanted to try mage. Have NO IDEA how and this helped so much!.
Thank You
finally someone answers my question i couldn't find an answer to and was too lazy to figure out for myself
i used carian regal scepter on my very first playthrough (basically a pure mage build) but i'm thinking of doing faith/int build later (NG+++) and now i'm so excited for the prince of death staff.
Just something to note, the mana cost for lusat’s while fine for lower costing spells, is crippling for high mana spells that already need a lot and with lusat’s cost ridiculous amount with based on my experience, especially for comet azure which even with 60 mind, it can barely be held for a few moments while with the carina regal it can be held for seconds without stopping.
You just use it with the no FP use flask anyway so it makes no difference
Lusat's is for the crystal tear setup, after which you go back to Carian, or in the ultra postgame the PoD staff.
If you want to use the big spells out of major enemies fights you can wear the primal glintstone blade which lowers fp cost and hp.
For the big spells it brings it down a lot. Comet azur with luset staff is 60 but 40 normally and with the charm it’s 45 with lusets staff
With primal glintstone I didn't have that much fp trouble spamming (relatively speaking) loretta's mastery or using azur comet without the fp tear.
Comet Azur is a garbage spell once the infinite fp flask has worn off anyways. I have 35 Mind and no issues using Lusat’s as my only staff. My flask is +12 and fully fills my fp bar from 0 and there’s a really powerful Talisman that lowers fp cost and your maximum hp which helps neutralize the fp increase from Lusat’s to nearly nonexistence.
Very helpful thank you
Reminder you can carry a second staff in your other hand and get its bonus to specific sorceries even when using the other staff. So if you are using Lusats staff to cast Dark Moon while holding the Carian staff in your other hand, you will still deal the bonus damage from the Carian staff.
So if you are rocking two staves for efficiency just dual wield them and you are golden.
dual wielding two staves is stupid.
is there special moveset for power standing staves? would be weird tbh
ur better off using that sword that boosts all damage by 30% in you offhand
@@__-fi6xg what sword is that? Id love to try it
@@quinnrose4627 It's an ash of war, Determination. And an even better one, Royal Knight's Resolve. Rage has a video for acquiring that.
Even if it's fixed to consume the buff like it "should", big spells like Azur or Founding Rain or Stars of Ruin should still be an efficient use of 80% damage to your next move.
I used to watch the old minecraft build off series and I have periodically checked on the channel like once every 6 months and there always seems to be something to take my interest. I just wanna say props for being so fucking entertaining during my childhood and your style of presenting is still so similar yet still so fucking entertaining as an adult. You are a fantastic entertainer Rage and the day you stop producing content will be a sad day for all media. Thanks again champ ❤️
I actually really enjoy Azur's Staff, sure the extra cast speed might not seem that fast but honestly I can't take it off, especially since the enemies and bosses attack much faster than you can cast.
Same👍
Azur has a staff ?
Yes azur has a staff
Stronglt agree. Azur's staff makes Comet almost as fast as base speed Glinstone pebble, but with like 4x the damage and twice the range. Just an absolute boss melter
Radagon icon is also a must have for mages
No way! I used to watch your minecraft quick build videos as a kid, good to see you're still going on RUclips man.
I'm lvl 106 and I only have my highest lvl 50, how tf do you have so many points at only lvl 113? 80 int 75 faith makes no sense.
Its possible because he probably has rune arc enable plus the talismans that boosts certain stats plus his class starting with 16 INT if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure if there's something else but yeah the maths are there!
Shhhhhhh
OK. I've been playing a sorcery build for a while and not ONCE did the thought of dual welding staffs occur to me. You have opened my mind to further glintstone bullshit. Thank you
I use the speed bonus staff, while it’s minor, I can hit people quicker in pvp and it makes all the difference, especially with quick spells like the carian slicer. Against other sorcerers I can hit them before they get their spells of and then the higher dmg doesn’t really matter then (it doesn’t always work but when it does it’s pretty funny)
Absolutely. I was already thinking 2 was necessary but people questioned why. Thanks for the video
Prince of Death will have very poor scaling up to unless you go 80/80. I tested with 60Int/50faith and it had 300 scaling at +24. Royal Scepter +10 has 373 at 80 int for comparison. All staves mentioned in the video have "backloaded" scaling meaning that you get MORE increase per stat point as you approach 80 Int/Faith hard cap. There are NO Soft Caps for the top tier staves (Crystal Staff
, Carian Regal Scepter, Prince of Death's Staff, Azur's Glintstone Staff, Lusat's Glintstone Staff, Rotten Crystal Staff, Staff of Loss). Only hard cap of 80.
Sorcery users are highly encouraged to push for 80 in a stat
Scaling breakpoints work as follows for the mentioned staves:
0 - 25 - good value per stat point (1% potential gain)
25 - 62 - slightly better value per stat point (1.1% potential gain)
62 - 80 - great value per stat point (1.5% potential gain)
80 - 99 - very poor value per stat point (0.25% potential gain)
Source: libredd.it/r/Eldenring/comments/tc3lyy/helpful_charts_for_offensive_stat_scaling/
You are 100% correct at the exact same stats my academy glintstone staff has the same scaling and damage as lusats
Worth mentioning that the Prince of Death Staff is also good for any hybrid build that runs the Sword of Night and Flame and maybe wants to stop at 50 the softcap for both INT & FAI
Softcap is for sure 80. Was getting consistent damage increase up to 80.
@@IceNinja18 80 is hardcap, 50 is the softcap
@@IceNinja18 80 is the hard cap. INT, FAI and ARC have a softer cap at 50, at least for weapon scaling. Not sure if spell scaling follows the same rule.
@@MrDLM-mg4rn hardcap is 99, softcap is 80
@@PrideBornAmadi he literally explained a hard cap is "negligible" returns. Not "No" returns
Your editing is really good
I find it easier to just stick to Carian lol. Glad I stuck with it since day 3 of game release I have loved it
You use the other one for like one situation when your use azur comet takes one button to switch one very few times kinda being stubborn for no reason
how in the hell did you get that on day 3
@@VincentsVideoVisions I don’t work lol so all my free time was given to this game lol. By day three I was already about 30 hours in at least lol. And fast tracked it to Liurnia cause I knew that was the mage place, and hard leveled all my stats into intelligence lol. I beat rennala at level 56 I think IIRC
@@brandonl4663 hey we all play how we like to play. I just don’t like switching weapons when fighting when I feel just as effective. To each their own.
@@dimamenetro so if you dont work how can you afford to buy games and survive?
The first competent staff comparison I came across! And funny on top!
Tip for anyone watching, if you already spent rennalas remembrance on the moon spell before duplication you can just get the crystals staff +10 & use that to knock enemies out the way just as effectively as the regal also you can get again in new game plus or new game in general so don’t feel like you took a big L lol
Or you can duplicate Rennalas remembrance, even when used, at a walking mausoleum and get both the spell and staff in one play through
Duplicating the remembrance at a mausoleum makes a lot more sense.
Thanks a lot for those 2 videos you made (casting speed and staves), you helped me immensely to understand all of this! You're the MVP!
On a side note the casting animation of Rannis Dark Moon is so cool. My favourite fight opener spell.
You're attitude is amazing. I was in a bad mood. Then I started this video and didn't even care about the subject of the video lmao your inflection gave me a happiness infection! 😂😂
One clarification for anybody unfamiliar: a hard cap is something you cannot go above. 99 is the hard cap in Elden Ring. 80 is the soft cap - diminishing returns crush the gains for each point after 80 making it not worth putting more points into. Those 19 points from 81-99 would be more useful somewhere else.
To clarify, it depends on what you're leveling. the hard cap for roughly half the attributes are 80 while others are 60 and the soft cap is usually around half that
Thank you so much for this information. Love the humor and your accent is awesome.
It should be noted, the regal scepter ALSO has a weapon art.
One of the best too!
...he did mention that? Are you deaf?
@@MrStone125 Oooh he did, it appears I am deaf. I blame the plague.
And that too bad, coz you may want to use determination to have more powerfull spells. I think I will stick with the carian glintstone staff and thats it.
Ok, just saw they corrected determination and it wont apply to sorceries anymore... gotta try this cepter
Unbelievably helpful video. Thanks bro!
5:30 It's so funny to me that I found that staff and currently use it, but never realized that it has 50% more mana usage, I just shoot pebbles when I'm far away and hoarfrost stomp when I'm close.
They just can't handle the cheese.
The way u explain everything is sooooo helpful! Thank you!!
As appealing as it is, all of the death spells are very underwhelming. Rancorcall is ok, but its double the cost of pebble for less damage. The bonus is “better” tracking, but it also hits walls a lot more and travels much slower. The ancient death rancor costs even more and does around the same damage unless fully charged. Ghostflame explosion is ok. Overall, these spells with something like helphen’s steeple or death’s poker look cool, but don’t expect anything too practical.
I heard rank or call does good stagger damage. Maybe that's why it's weaker? The stagger in the tracking make it a good way to keep bosses immobile. Also I think it does better damage with the prince of death staff. Scales with intelligence and faith.
@@ohmbasa yes it does get a slight boost with the prince of death’s staff, but its not a lot. At both 80 int and faith, it will outdamage 80 int lusat, but that’s still double the points invested for slightly more damage. As for the poise damage, you won’t really be doing much with that. Either you have a few more seconds to throw in more rancorcalls that were already surpassed by glintstone pebbles, or you go in for a melee crit that won’t do anything because all your points are in int and faith
@@ohmbasa it has really good stagger and poise damage. ARanc is very strong.
I agree… with the sorceries and incantations overall. There’s less than a handful that are useful on a practical level without being massively leveled.
I wish they would’ve made a better scaling/level progression bonus for those abilities. Just better balancing to make most of them worth using.
The game is still fun, but there’s a lot of selection without adding any desire to change things up.
Of course I say that as I’m running around as a naked Wretch… just to spice things up a little.
@@brad5204 those two are used for different things... ranc is a fire and forget spell. Cast it a few times and move onto something else, unless you are fighting a boss like malenia, where it stagger locks her.
Dude I just want to say, you are awesome, I'm glad I found your channel!
Lusat's is also better if the damage increase allows you to one shot something that you would only two-shot with the Carian Scepter
also he says 'carian staff +magic dmg boost from ranni's dark moon will just do as much dmg as the lusat staff' but he forget that spell also gives debuff on lusat staff. its just a poorly made guide
@@ksphiml I think the point was the damage difference of the moon ITSELF was negligible at best so it isn't worth casting with the 50% FP increase. Afterwards, yes switch to the big pp staff.
This answered every single question I had and could think of, thank you
Went into the game wanting an int/faith build so this is perfect for me. Also got the golden order seal cause it scales with int and faith as well. Also just got every spell and incantation in the game so my arsenal is loaded!
The golden order seal scale REEEALLY well. As an int/faith with the split scaling catalysts incantations generally hit harder. Havent pushed my staff past +60 in both though so who knows for higher
Well, I'll have to keep that in mind for a potential "Arcana Cleric" build I want to do.
How that been working for you. That's what I want to do
@@chasegreaser1166 Absolutely love my build. Overall sorcery does more damage but the incantation buffs and dmg negations help a bunch plus the faith weapons are incredible. and it’s just cool being able to bust out any type of magic that you need. Definitely won’t be able to stay in the meta for it but the high level pvp is way more fun in my opinion.
@@radonculous9158 do you mind if I ask you for tips, for PvE mostly. I'm level 30. Picked astrologer. I have spells pebble. The big and fast ones. A sword magic buff. Glintblade. A magic sword swipes. And rock sling. Inc. I just have a fireball and catch flame. And 4 memory slots A regular finger seal and the meteorite staff. 23/15 int/faith.(my faith actually lower but I have a talisman that increases it) I beat the tree sentinel. And that one dude with the magic hammer. I still feel weak and repetitive. For weapons I just have a normal shield and a sword. Any tips on what's the next of becoming powerful and/or more fun. I'm aiming to get the sword of night and flame when my levels are high enough. But that's it. Any tips would be appreciated 👍.
So this is for not only other players, but for RageGaming as well. You can equip a staff in each hand and benefit from both. I killed Malenia with Rock Sling. Yes, I did. Just Rock Sling. However, I had Lusat in the left hand and casted from there to gain the higher damage at higher FP cost, but when you have Meteorite Staff in your right hand you get the "increases damage to Gravity spells" effect. I killed 90% of bosses with Rock Sling, including Margit at lvl 14 and Godrick at lvl 19. The big aspect to Rocks is that they stun really easily. 3 to 4 hits (must hit with all 3 rocks per cast) to get this to work but it's good. Most stun animations are long so you can drink a potion to recover FP and keep slinging before the enemy can really respond. If you're using Mimic, they can sling as well but will often go through all the memorized spells in a random order. Give them quick cast spells and what this does is have the bosses trade off attention between you and the Mimic so frequently that neither of you gets hurt that much. If you don't want to do Sling and prefer other spells, use a staff for that style of spells. If you want to juice up Azur, then you cast from Lusat and you put Carian Regal in your right hand to stack the scaling. Killed Mogh in 8 seconds at lvl 90 or so. Fun stuff.
SO staff question since your doing so much testing rage, if you have the meteor staff in the left hand and lusats in the other and cast a gravity spell from the lusats does it get the damage buff from the meteors staff passive or vis versus??
both but dmg boost stack is multiplicative not additive so its not as good, and the more practical thing to do when boosting sorcery is having royal knight resolve on one of ur slot so its more ideal
@@quanbach7503 multiplicative increases are better than additive increases. Additive decreases are better than multiplicative decreases. So you're wrong.
@@quanbach7503 I dont want to rely on the knights resolve combo since I fear that will get patched sometime in the near future, but yeah thats some big damage
Like the other guys said royal knight resolve is better. But before activating it I'd recommend using sacred oath. It apparently works on magic damage too
@@3dyfication man couldn’t have said this at a better time
I have been waiting for this for so long
Staffs / Seals also scale with str and dex and stuff, just look at the scalings like Carian Regal Scepter STR D, DEX D so it also scales with those two
It does not affect the sorcery scaling. It raises base staff damage and maybe carian royal ash but not the sorcery damage of the staffs.
Fantastic content my guy. Thank you
Honestly, I was expecting the sorcery scaling to be higher for the Prince of Death's Staff at 80-80. I was hoping for crazy damage for the stat investment
It is stronger than lusats without any extra fp cost or any other downside. What are you talking about?
@@Madara_Ghost_of_the_Uchiha I mean it takes like 70 levels of investment to get there.....
@@amethonys2798 This. You can put the extra 70 levels somewhere else and get much greater benefits. And even if you just want to use the sword of night and flame, you can just put 45 (if your base is 10) on faith, so you can have another 25 points on another stat.
The only reason why you would want 80-80 faith/int is because you want to cast both spells and incantations at the soft cap for each. Otherwise, the extra 70 point investment for hybrid scaling does not pay out well.
All dark souls have a diminishing return in all aspects as you get further and further, this applies for both stats and equipment, this is why you notice as staves got higher and higher rated they got closer and closer to eachother in damage.
@@dustinbriggs5520 ah yes. Lets put 70 points into a stat i dont plan on using. Smorts.
Totally agree! Carian Regal and Lusat's are definitely the best two. I did discover something which I hope others can confirm or debunk:
The staff on your off-hand transfers its bonus to the staff on your main hand. So a meteorite staff on your left will buff gravity sorceries cast on your right-hand staff.
HOWEVER, if you have the Lusat's on your left and the Carian Regal on your right, you will find that the 50% extra FP from Lusat's applies WITHOUT any 8% sorcery buff boosting the spells cast with your right-hand staff.
So basically, never have the Lusat's in your off-hand when you cast a spell with your main hand staff.
Hey, you can still keep the meteorite staff in your main hand for the gravity boost when casting with your off-hand.
Since Lusat's passive effect works that way, I would think so.
Yes you can
Or use royal knights resolve or determination in your main hand and luset staff in left hand and do more dmg
@@lunariangoddess1206 It looks like that was fixed in the patch 1.0.3, but it might have only been other weapons. Can't wait to test and see if spells still get boosted
@@Veristelle- yup just got the update and tested and it doesn’t work anymore so the meta is back to dual wielding staffs
Dude ive been watching u forever and love this content! Cant wait to see u cover sunbreak!
Josh, how does Azur and Lusat's Staves compare when you've also got the Primal Glintstone Blade talisman? It reduces spell costs by about 25%.
It would depend on how it's calculated. If the % mods are additive then it would cancel out Azur's and reduce Lusat's to 25%. If they're applied in sequence then it would actually be a noticable reduction. Lusat's would be a 12.5% increase and Azur's would be a 6.25% decrease.
@@sr71silver Hmm. Multipliers are almost always multiplicative calculation in Elden Ring... If you test it, get back to this thread and maybe post it on reddit?
@@FelisImpurrator I thought they were additive. In his cast speed video he said they're additive.
Where do you get that? I assume it's lategame or tied to a quest, because that's a strong buff to fp sustain for casters.
@@FakeHeroFang Stargazer Ruins, in Mountaintop of Giants. Gotta solve a little Jellyfish puzzle.
Thank you for this bunch if informations, well done
Since my int was at 80 and my faith at 60 I went ahead and started using this staff got my faith to 80 and hands down the best staff in the game atm. I tested it against all the others and seems Faith and int are ment to be together once death magic gets a buff it's over.
does using two deathstaffs give twice the boost to death magic? curious before i boost my second staff up to 25
ok ok!!! geez i'll watch more of this channel! gawsh! lol but really tho, 2nd most useful player to follow and learn from. you won my greatest respect as a gamer. not only giving the info with numbers, but give side by side and shoot- like that was dope btw. and explains almost if not ALL the diffs btw them. your reasoning one top 1 for you, AWESOME. jjust awesome bc few hours ago i had that thought and you made it so easy for me. i can not wait to nab them up and start practicing the style mentioned. oh geez in my head just now got me mad excted to startt now. -yah...-im hopping in now. thanks again for your 411!
I'm playing the game only with Lusats staff, never really run out of mana with 6 flasks, 30 mind and the talisman that gives more maximum FP.
Honestly same, I think the reason a lot of people have a problem with it is because they didn’t put anything into their Mind stat
0:36 Hilarious 😂
The monster is trying to flee but just can't 😂
It's like my gameplay, but from the monster's point of view 🤗
Ah bro you're a killer at this x)
Actually, the highest damage staff would be dual wielding the Lusat staff and the Prince of Death staff.
Lusat and Azur staff buffs are applied to the character, not the spell. Therefore you can claim the speed of Azur staff whilst doing the damage of a Lusat staff. (and vice versa)
and that would only cost you 75% more FP... what a bargain (+50% FP cost from lusats and +25% from azur)
Poor people problems
@@arcanumelite4853 yes, but you simply unequip lusat for trash and flask up for the boss you need this for max damage on. If you can't be bothered to micro that one button then that's a definite 'you' problem.
Actually using Lusat's in 1 hand and then using either Carian Glinstone staff to boost Adula's or Meteorite to boost gravity spells in another hand ( in world where determination/royal knight's resolve doesn't work) is far superior, azur's staff benefit is outclassed by 2 mentioned staves at no drawbacks, both mentioned staves actually boost spells used by your main hand even while held in off hand, making adula's blade which is already dumb even more broken in non boss situations and rock sling even more busted in boss/mounted encounters.
@@MethodKuriisu heres a question i have... does +ing the staff in your off-hand actually do anything or not?
So no Academy staff... Got it. Never considered dual welding staffs. Great vid😎 Just let me port over my insect glaive and I wouldn't have to worry about every little detail. Lol
How is it possible at level 113 to have INT and FAI at 80? Or did I miss something ? Lol
maybe talismans? i'm not sure
Talismans and the great rune from godrick
I'm very curious about what equipment you're wearing, it looks so good!
Definitely useful 👌 but as a battlemage running a moonlight greatsword I found the Azurs staff just meshes with my look the best. I do feel the speed increase enough to justify it as well, I could run that talisman instead for extra cast speed buuut I find the fp talisman with both speed/extra stamina talismans better fit for me. Plus the extra sorcery potency talisman adds enough to have my spells hit hard enough. But forsure if I was 100% caster then I would go with what the video says.
For battle mage, Regal scepter is the best I think. You just cast a moon spell then a terra magnus thing then switch to your sword of night and flame/moonveil/hoarfrost weapon and spam those skills and nuke the boss with very little fp cost
@@skyacaniadev2229 sounds strong forsure, I personally love the bow/swords sorcery so I just mainly use those. And the moonlight just looks really sick compared to the smaller swords. However Malenias sword is something I wanna build around and it'll look sick with my battlemage idea. I guess I'm more for the looks then all out damage. I feel balanced especially in pvp.
Nice video and comparisons, thank u !
I run a staff and the night and fire sword. That sword is a beast at ad clearing or single target damage, and it also scales off INT.
It scales off int for the magic and Faith for the fire damage, and dex/Strength for the physical damage!, I use Carian Regal Scepter(, upgraded to be better then meteorite staff) and then MoonVeil/Sword of anight and Flame in my right hand. Also sword of st Trina is dope AF for fun play as well and coop to make your friends laugh
@@rainygamedays5873 nope your brother is in danger
I'll bet you Night and Fire sword gets nerfed real soon.
@@synnical77 It already did by the time you commented that lol
not anymore after the nerf
so good.. thx again for all the videos.. just subbed after watching Elden Ring videos the past couple days :D
So I changed my build to be a sorc/faith hybrid, using the Prince of death staff and the erdtree seal... and oh boy that dual scaling is nice, but I am level 190 now thanks to end game rune farming 😄
I suggest the Sword of Night and Flame to go with that build! Good stuff
@@Homiloko2 already fully upgraded, and honestly... I prefer rocking massive poise, slicer attacks and support spells. It's just s preference, but I swap my build up a lot. Deciding what I want to play for ng+. That sword is insane though
You want to switch to golden order if you are Int/faith. The scaling is way higher than erdtree seal since the golden order is based off Int/faith.
Example: 70 Int and 41 faith is around 320ish incant scaling on a +9 golden order seal
@@lunariangoddess1206 you know what, I've been quoting the wrong seal I'm using 😄 it's the golden order I have
Been searching for this kinda vid for a long time but now here I have a complete rundown on when to use which staff why and more. couldnt ask for a better staff Video. Tank you man keep it up 😁🤙
Something weird regarding staves is that any of them that increase the fp cost (for either increased spell speed/damage) do so even for your other staves, yet they don't get the benefits from the staff with the effect (Lusat's & Azurs dmg/spell speed), just the fp increase. If it's a passive effect like "boosts gravity", that somehow affects the other staff.
I remember this channel way back when you made fish spider industries and the minecraft build contests. I was super surprised when I saw the channel name when looking up ER stuff
At what point, on the lower end, do the staves effect outweigh the spell scaling on similar level staves?
On the lower end cast speed greatly outshines sorcery scaling, as the cast speed is always effected at the same percentage. Not every spell is affected though, long casting/charge spells don't really get change (Which is dumb in my opinion) but the fast casting chained spells you will see a noticeable difference. So Azur's staff will give you more dps on the lower maybe even higher end, just depends on the spells.
@@Wolfenacht does it stack with a speed casting talisman tough
@@__-fi6xg Yes.
Very nice video! 👌
anyone know how he hit 80fainth and 80int while only lvl 113
I imagine he only put levels into those 2 and then also using talismans and whatnot to get a bunch of additional levels
Its possible with talismans like Marika's Soreseal, Two Fingers Heirloom, Stargazer Heirloom, Godrick's Great Rune etc. Of you notice the rest of his stats are really low..
I needed this video! Thank you!
"a hard cap is the number where every point into that stat afterwards is basically worthless"
that is just factually incorrect. you are still describing soft caps. Hard caps are the maximum value a stat can reach.
Thank you, this was incredibly helpful :D
Lusats staff also has a C scaling in strength so wouldn't you have to take strength up to 80 in order to see what it's actual sorcery scaling would be? If you tested one at the cap for both scaling stats it would only make sense to do the other.
no because the strength doesnt affect the sorcery scaling, only the physical damage scaling for literally smacking things with your staff.
@@jarlnooch1882 ah, I did not realize that. Thanks for letting me know
The speed at witch your putting out the videos is also amazingly high 👌
Could someone clarify about the damage status of a weapon?
I have a moonveil katana and it scales with dexterity and intelligence. Is intelligence applied to physical damage as well? Or intelligence just scales with the weapon's magic attack. I'm wondering if the physical and magic damage of the weapon are a sum of the numbers in intelligence AND also in dexterity, or if they are separate.
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So when a weapon does 2 different damage types, like Physical and Magical, it's scaling "can", but not always be effected by different stats. Like with lots of Dex + Int weapons, higher dex increases the physical damage it does while higher INT increases the magical damage it deals. Then you also have to consider different enemies have different resistances, so while one boss might be weak to physical, another might be weak to magic. Then one boss could even be strong against both physical and magic, so you better have a backup plan. (The ability to deal fire or holy when needed)
When looking at a weapon that deals 2 different types of damage, you can see how your own stats are boosting it's dmg right in the detail window. The number after the + sign is how much your own stats are boosting the weapons base dmg. You can just equip like a +dex or +int Talisman to see how much the difference is and how much dmg each point of the stat is giving you. Keep in mind though, the higher level you upgrade a weapon to, the better scaling it gets, so the damage it gets per stat point will increase as well.
@@nokturnallex2160 cool! So if i pump int, it will raise my magic dmg on my moonveil, but im going to deal more damage with the normal attacks, but it will count as a mix of physical and magical damage. This is it?
@@joaov2374 Yep, also keep in mind there's multiple ways to enchant weapons, but certain weapons can't be enchanted. General rule is if you can't change the art of war on it you can't change the type of damage it deals, but there are exceptions, like the Treespear deals Holy + Physical damage, but can also be enchanted to deal only Holy damage via it's Art of War or you could also enchant it with consumables + spells to change it to a different damage type of your choosing.
When you're using a weapon whose art of War can change, having different Whetstone Knives (you'll find them during the game) allows you to also change the way it scales and change it to deal a different damage type, like Fire, Holy, or Magic.
So while Moonveil can't change it's damage type, you could also use any of the regular Katanas as a backup weapon that you could replace the Art of War anytime you want and also enchant them to deal the damage type of your choosing, like having a 2ndary Katana do Fire damage to kill enemies weak to fire easier. (Like Erdtree Guardians)
@@nokturnallex2160 cool! Im using moonveil + uchigatana (with frost stomp) on right hand and staff + nagakiga (with bloodhound lightling) on left hand. This way i have the frost and magic + pure physical power stance with dual katana with lightling effect . I was wondering if i could change the weapon art affinity to stack int and still deals damage on normal attack to power stance. Thanks mate! You helped a lot and had patience!
Your voice brings me so much joy x3 You've got that I DO SAY! JOLLY GOOD! kind of voice
Can someone tell me out of everything he said. .waht is the best staff?
Your death sound effects deserves a like.
Nice catch bud.
I'm very late game and still using the meteor staff. 🤦♂️ In my defense I do use the meteors themselves quite a bit.
Carion staff it is! 🧙♂️
THANK YOU for validating my research on this matter! Alleluia!
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