The thing that genuinely shocks me at this video - is even with 20+ years of being heavily into fighting games, and there are STILL games I have never see or heard of.
If I learned anything from Salty Bets it is: -Never bet against anime -Bet on the wonky looking characters -Don't underestimate the SNK -ALWAYS bet on DBZ
It gets even worse if you think about it. I feel like there are actual combos in this game less complex than playing happy birthday on Big Band's trumpet, this disrespect took *practice*.
When you get two characters caught in a combo they call it a "Happy Birthday" because it's like getting gifted an opportunity to do extra damage to the extra character. So the song is also a joke. It's so good on so many levels.
@@BionikleFG Yeah, it turns your stick into basically a functioning trumpet for a few seconds. Lots of videos out there of different songs being played too, not to hard to find.
@@chaotickreg7024 I think that's also the problem with Melee in a "will it kill" segment. Most "combos" are technincally very reliable resets and whether or not someone kills of a single hit is mostly based on whther they mess up or lose a DI mixup. So you can't really assume that people will go for the max damage combo like you can in a "will it kill" segment for other fighting games. Also thank you ^_^
@@simongotborg3866 Yeah you're right, combos are all about the DI. There are a thousand ways any combo can go, and asking the better to predict the end of a combo based on the starting hit is a little too much to ask. I can think of a few more good "Will it kill" melee situations: Marth gets an up throw on a fox Ken Combo Opener near a ledge at high percent Weird ledgehog situations Will Jigglypuff get the rest? Can Falco convert from a shine? Will this Falcon Dair spike? Peach/Link item shenanigans And those are the only real predictable situations I can think of. Tbh that Marth upB was the perfect choice. There are many other situations where both players are way off stage with one stock left, but finding another good one would be really hard.
Aside from the obvious "play with health" suggestion which is probably rare for 99.999% of major Smash clips, phantom hits could be a good chance to talk about "Will It Kill". Most phantom hits I see around have the same energy.
That game is wild. It's like characters from a localized version of a niche game reused in a different but better game. There are so many weird origins of the characters in the game. It's pretty cool though.
@@KachiPorraa Game made intentionally bad. Japan is full of them. Not to be confused with amateur creations or just general old titles. Especially in the ye olden days. I think Sajam is using them in a joking manner here, but they definitely exist. A telltale sign of them is extreme damage output via infinites or, as sajam put it, "reverse scaling." The most famous exampe would be Sailor Moon R. SF2 ST, as you saw with that one clip with Blanka vs Dhalsim, would kind of fit with that criteria, but not quite at the same time. There is a reason games aren't made like that anymore. Well, professionally.
How can you say you didn't scam us? Including a Kusoge combo that doesn't kill is definitely a scam... That's a bigger scam than Majas wanting us to join the electronic store team; Come on now. 😉
The thing about Fate Unlimited Code Scaling was that IF you combo off of a PROJECTILE, you receive ZERO Scaling on the super as you can see Archer's combo right there.
Lol that last game is Slap Happy Rhythm Busters. The player being hit by the DDR super can technically fight back - by pressing up, down, left or right when a "note" passes through the OUTER layer of goal outlines, you send that note to the opposite side of where it came from. This forces the attacking player to react quickly to the shift (or lack of a shift) in order to still complete the note and do full damage with the super. Arguably, P2 not fighting back made it easier to do full damage, so it would have needed a disclaimer to be included fairly (like the "player 2 does not burst" clip).
Thanks, all of the other games are named in the timestamps and description but that one was still interesting even if it wasn't part of the line up. The minigame during supers for defenders reminds of some moves in Budokai and also Ultimate Ninja.
The Jojos clips always kill Smh stinky dio Also the dio clip wasn’t a drop because 5c usually is supposed to kd and is used after muda or alternatively you loop back into it with I forgot what
That last clip is Slap Happy Rhythm Busters on PS1. That DDR super is the universal level 3 and the opponent can mash buttons to swap the notes. Btw, that Chun ripoff and the Dog are hella good. They have the most messed up looking multi hitting jumping attacks that can randomly cross up when the opponent is blocking.
That DIO combo wasn’t a drop but it looks like one because 5C is meant to launch raw but knock down at high combo count. Also there’s no such thing as reverse scaling, your friend might be referring to how the infinite prevention resets after tandem (that thing where the player and stand separate)
In that Chaos Code clip the reason the scaling seemed janky was because of Ray's fist meter. I don't remember the specifics, but it alone allows him to do some of the most damaging combos in the game. He essentially burnt all of his meter on a simpler route and then extended it into a more damaging one.
2:19 This is one of my absolute FAVORITE fighting game mechanics. A built in custom BM/style on em! 5:25 The brutality of him just YEETING this girl by the leg sent me across the country by mail.
These are fantastic. They engage my whole brain - I have to scramble to make sense of the screen, and then I get rewarded by flashing lights and fat damage.
To be honest that jojo combo couldve gone forever since it ended on a loop which is infinite, but its considered bad sportsmanship to do more than three loops so he had to end it there. That happens with almost the whole cast.
If I recall correctly JoJo has a very unique scaling system. Underneath the combo counter there are little blocks, the smaller the block the more scaling, so when you cycle back to the big blocks your combo does more damage again lol
looking back at how ridiculous stun/damage was back in those old SF games, still makes me say "jesus christ". I knew Blanka was killing there, no questions asked. 30:35 the jank ass game footage sets up this reaction so perfectly. "And he's FUCKING DEAD", I got a good laugh out of that.
he japed us with those tominaga clips. like its an instinctive reaction for me whenever i see that pink makoto like "oh that poor bastard is already dead"
KOFXIII heads, correct me if I'm wrong but... Although the combo ending around 14:58 is technically "not" a drop... Mr. KOF could've simply ended the combo with a flashkick ([2]8 D) to kill Iori... right? I've done all of Ash's trials and I remember you easily getting enough charge after his double sonic booms.
This is so entertaining, I’d say the slayer vs sol clip I was the most right on. My brain went full analysis, I was like, well sol has burst so slayer is going to try a shorter, bigger burst of damage to try and play around that band therefore, he won’t kill. Overall dope segment, keep it up
@@chaotickreg7024 hell no lmao. It's based on the Fate v/n and anime franchise, and it's an all-time kusoge, or "shit game." Incredibly broken and unbalanced
@@reiddukes194 I looked up tournament footage and it's not as cool as I thought lol. There are a few scenes/screenshots that look like Gamecube era Fire Emblem but that's all.
Not really, people like Rin can descale 10k damage rather easily, and Saber can using invisible air to reset gravity multiple times for the same effect. Archer combos are really swag tho.
@@pabloarammasmanian5391 Actually that's not how it works. Caladbolg (the super used at the end of Archer's combo in the video) normally does scale to 50% damage. Only when there are projectiles on the screen when the super happens causes descaling, regardless of whether it's a projectile or not. One example is Shiro's Caliburn Super (which is not a projectile super), which can be descaled if used after his 421 moves. Along the same lines, Saber cannot descale her Excalibur, but Saber Alter can.
@@SoysauceML i thought it did unscalled damage like if the super hit raw it ends up doing the same damage. Descaling isn't really something that happends in fighting games to my knowledge.
@@himuragoXD I meant what I said, this is likely a glitch, normally supers gets flat out 50% set scaling. Also iirc there are descaling glitch with dhc in marvel3? (ironically also by 8ing), but I'm not that familiar with the game. Check Archer videos on my channel. You can clearly see his Caladbolg doing 1k damage in some of the combos instead of 2k. In fact it's almost impossible make his Caladbolg do full damage in a combo without activation, due to the fact that you can only cancel j236A into super during activation (the only way is doing a string where archer uses multiple j236As to create a huge distance to lengthen arrow travel time so he doesn't need the cancelling to pull it off). Because super removes the j236A projectiles (jB doesn't have this problem), you also have to time it so you use the super just as the j236A hits, which while isn't too difficult, one can fail to do so in a match.
The thing that genuinely shocks me at this video - is even with 20+ years of being heavily into fighting games, and there are STILL games I have never see or heard of.
Someone really needs to make one of those Iceberg pictures for fighting games.
@@Copperhell144 lmao they already have and they pull out some DEEP cuts
@@tapp2735 Really? I can't find any that lists only game names
@@Copperhell144 found it twitter.com/PhaseDenizen/status/1336020012679761923/photo/1
@@tehjargonz0r Brilliant, thank you very much!
I absolutely love the trend of "Is it gonna kill?" *bursts into laughter*
The ad after “brought to you by” was the best part.
first time im glad to get an ad
If I learned anything from Salty Bets it is:
-Never bet against anime
-Bet on the wonky looking characters
-Don't underestimate the SNK
-ALWAYS bet on DBZ
What i learned is Touhou will always let you down
Never don't always bet on DBZ*
Keep doing theses please this is dope
I agree.will watch
That Skullgirls Happy Birthday combo made me lose my _mind_
Big Band is on another level of disrespect
It gets even worse if you think about it. I feel like there are actual combos in this game less complex than playing happy birthday on Big Band's trumpet, this disrespect took *practice*.
When you get two characters caught in a combo they call it a "Happy Birthday" because it's like getting gifted an opportunity to do extra damage to the extra character. So the song is also a joke. It's so good on so many levels.
@@kevingriffith6011 Wait you have to actually hit buttons to play it? I figured it happened automatically
@@BionikleFG Yeah, it turns your stick into basically a functioning trumpet for a few seconds. Lots of videos out there of different songs being played too, not to hard to find.
Mad respect to anyone who can play DIO like that. I tried playing him and couldn't do the BnB to save my life!
All it is is pure practice my man, you can do it.
the guy was erlikos
Dio is a notoriously hard character to even do the most basic combos with.
@@cryosen i was the dio who almost got destroyed
@@khoa7399 Did you submit the clip?
The way jojo's staling works is basically after the first few hits everything does 1 damage so that's why tandems are optimized for hit count
Didn't know that, thanks
"I know nothing on this game. I'm all in"
Sajamchat can't stop won't stop betting
I'm so glad one of my Melee clips made the cut. Thanks a lot Sajam ^_^
I'm really glad to see other fighting games represented in this one. Melee is perfect for "Will it kill" because you can kill at 0% sometimes.
@@chaotickreg7024 I think that's also the problem with Melee in a "will it kill" segment. Most "combos" are technincally very reliable resets and whether or not someone kills of a single hit is mostly based on whther they mess up or lose a DI mixup. So you can't really assume that people will go for the max damage combo like you can in a "will it kill" segment for other fighting games.
Also thank you ^_^
@@simongotborg3866 Yeah you're right, combos are all about the DI. There are a thousand ways any combo can go, and asking the better to predict the end of a combo based on the starting hit is a little too much to ask. I can think of a few more good "Will it kill" melee situations:
Marth gets an up throw on a fox
Ken Combo
Opener near a ledge at high percent
Weird ledgehog situations
Will Jigglypuff get the rest?
Can Falco convert from a shine?
Will this Falcon Dair spike?
Peach/Link item shenanigans
And those are the only real predictable situations I can think of.
Tbh that Marth upB was the perfect choice. There are many other situations where both players are way off stage with one stock left, but finding another good one would be really hard.
Aside from the obvious "play with health" suggestion which is probably rare for 99.999% of major Smash clips, phantom hits could be a good chance to talk about "Will It Kill".
Most phantom hits I see around have the same energy.
“Did you get mixed?” Would be a great mini segment just like the “Who dies?” segment.
That Rhythm Fighting game near the end is called Slap Happy Rhythm Busters.
That game is wild. It's like characters from a localized version of a niche game reused in a different but better game. There are so many weird origins of the characters in the game. It's pretty cool though.
@@Zero254 Been meaning to play it for yeeeears now.
It's such a fun game
I main Garia
rule of thumb: the more kusoge, the more kill
Words to (Not) live by.
What does kusoge mean
@@KachiPorraa shitty game in japanese
@@KachiPorraa shitty game
@@KachiPorraa Game made intentionally bad. Japan is full of them. Not to be confused with amateur creations or just general old titles. Especially in the ye olden days. I think Sajam is using them in a joking manner here, but they definitely exist. A telltale sign of them is extreme damage output via infinites or, as sajam put it, "reverse scaling." The most famous exampe would be Sailor Moon R. SF2 ST, as you saw with that one clip with Blanka vs Dhalsim, would kind of fit with that criteria, but not quite at the same time.
There is a reason games aren't made like that anymore. Well, professionally.
Not gonna lie: I cried a single tear of joy when I saw the Chaos Code clip. People sleep on that game, it is way too fun.
perfect ad break timing
good job on that one
"will it kill? brought to you by"
>dr squatch ad
The best part about this series is Sajam's little giggle after he says "Will it kill?"
Man, I DID look at that side wall, I wasn't gonna let that stop me believing in Jimmy J.
I'll hold that L with pride.
Hey man his combo didn't kill but guess what?...He still won the round.
LET'S GO JIMMY
@@madrocts hell yeah he did
How can you say you didn't scam us? Including a Kusoge combo that doesn't kill is definitely a scam... That's a bigger scam than Majas wanting us to join the electronic store team; Come on now. 😉
“Will it kill? Brought to you by…” placing a midroll ad right there is genius.
The thing about Fate Unlimited Code Scaling was that IF you combo off of a PROJECTILE, you receive ZERO Scaling on the super as you can see Archer's combo right there.
This guy FUCs.
I’ll never get tired of that Big Band happy birthday. Sweet Jesus, that Ash vs Iori clip was painful to watch. Finish your meal, damn it.
Lol that last game is Slap Happy Rhythm Busters. The player being hit by the DDR super can technically fight back - by pressing up, down, left or right when a "note" passes through the OUTER layer of goal outlines, you send that note to the opposite side of where it came from. This forces the attacking player to react quickly to the shift (or lack of a shift) in order to still complete the note and do full damage with the super. Arguably, P2 not fighting back made it easier to do full damage, so it would have needed a disclaimer to be included fairly (like the "player 2 does not burst" clip).
Thanks, all of the other games are named in the timestamps and description but that one was still interesting even if it wasn't part of the line up.
The minigame during supers for defenders reminds of some moves in Budokai and also Ultimate Ninja.
Not really since part of the criteria is "there are no drops" and the defender can't make the attacker drop, just make a drop more likely.
The Jojos clips always kill
Smh stinky dio
Also the dio clip wasn’t a drop because 5c usually is supposed to kd and is used after muda or alternatively you loop back into it with I forgot what
Yoo hey multi
@@blank_e1 my man smiley 😎
multi calling me stinky?
@@ErliErliErli maybe if you didn’t drop the combo nerd 😎
@@ErliErliErli would have killed if you optimized it smh, my pride is lost... im kidding pls dont kill me :(
That last clip is Slap Happy Rhythm Busters on PS1. That DDR super is the universal level 3 and the opponent can mash buttons to swap the notes.
Btw, that Chun ripoff and the Dog are hella good. They have the most messed up looking multi hitting jumping attacks that can randomly cross up when the opponent is blocking.
BBCF, on Sajam's channel? Ya love to see it.
BlazBlue is definitely overshadowed by its big brother. I always like to see BB represented. :)
14:55 The worst thing is that Ash COULD have killed Iori by pretty much doing anything after the heavy fireball. It would very much count as a drop.
That DIO combo wasn’t a drop but it looks like one because 5C is meant to launch raw but knock down at high combo count.
Also there’s no such thing as reverse scaling, your friend might be referring to how the infinite prevention resets after tandem (that thing where the player and stand separate)
Reverse scaling was a joke. It wasn’t serious, he just said that’s what it looks like.
Coming From the future Reverse Scaling does exist in a little game called Angel Eyes
I really love this new season of videos
I need more
Thanks for adding in how everyone bet & all of the time stamps Moste.
That’s ray man. My friend plays him and when I saw the 3 meter I was like damn, that cthylla is gone
Dude, I know. He's my main, I adore him lol.
What game is that? It looks cool
@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome chaos code/chaos code: sign of catastrophe
That bigband happybday is a classic
I wasn't sure if my clip was gonna get in. Turns out, it was the first one submited and watched. Keep up the good content
This is my new favorite series on RUclips lol keep it up Lord Jam
Thanks for including the JoJo's clip! Always cool to see jojos be showcased in youtube videos.
Yo this is such a good segment , I'm kinda mad I didn't catch it live.
I love these so much, can’t believe nobody else has put this into a youtube format yet
Yo this is some of my favorite FGC content I've seen in a while, looking forward to more.
Nice to see some TFH in here, hoping to see more.
idk whos editing these but thanks for the time stamsp and sources mad props
In that Chaos Code clip the reason the scaling seemed janky was because of Ray's fist meter. I don't remember the specifics, but it alone allows him to do some of the most damaging combos in the game. He essentially burnt all of his meter on a simpler route and then extended it into a more damaging one.
2:19
This is one of my absolute FAVORITE fighting game mechanics. A built in custom BM/style on em!
5:25
The brutality of him just YEETING this girl by the leg sent me across the country by mail.
I like the mix of users choices and sajam pics tbh. I'm sure random people got some fuxked up shit for this series lol
This is a great idea for a series man. Love it, thanks!!!
Love pretty much all your stuff but this has definitely been my favorite as of late. Thanks for the great content!
These are fantastic. They engage my whole brain - I have to scramble to make sense of the screen, and then I get rewarded by flashing lights and fat damage.
God, these videos are so good man. Please keep doing them forever
"Will it kill? Brought to you by-"
I actually got an ad there. Hilarious
To be honest that jojo combo couldve gone forever since it ended on a loop which is infinite, but its considered bad sportsmanship to do more than three loops so he had to end it there.
That happens with almost the whole cast.
ad actually came on darning an "ad break", nice touch :D
This is a fun series for people who dont even play fighting games
As soon as you said "brought to you by" I got a Raid Shadow Legends ad.
Love this segment, Sajam. Really hoping we see more unique games in the future, but they're all awesome. :)
If I recall correctly JoJo has a very unique scaling system. Underneath the combo counter there are little blocks, the smaller the block the more scaling, so when you cycle back to the big blocks your combo does more damage again lol
You should start another segment called "A Series of Unfortunate Events."
This segment might be Sajam’s equivalent to JMCrofts “Greatest Matches in FGC History” series
In that it’ll be their most popular content
Mad respect to the dude who learned how to play Happy Birthday with Big Band, just so he could pull that out at that moment.
Chef's kiss 💯
This is a lot of fun. I don't make the stream often but I hope to be on sometime when you do this.
looking back at how ridiculous stun/damage was back in those old SF games, still makes me say "jesus christ". I knew Blanka was killing there, no questions asked.
30:35 the jank ass game footage sets up this reaction so perfectly. "And he's FUCKING DEAD", I got a good laugh out of that.
I fucking saw Heritage for the Future in the thumbnail and I clicked so fast. Man, I love this game so much!! That was a godlike DIO combo as well.
he japed us with those tominaga clips. like its an instinctive reaction for me whenever i see that pink makoto like "oh that poor bastard is already dead"
KOFXIII heads, correct me if I'm wrong but...
Although the combo ending around 14:58 is technically "not" a drop...
Mr. KOF could've simply ended the combo with a flashkick ([2]8 D) to kill Iori... right?
I've done all of Ash's trials and I remember you easily getting enough charge after his double sonic booms.
I'm loving this series, those final Tekken clips were great
DUDE, AT 5 MINUTES, CHAOS CODE WITH MY BOY RAY! I ADORE THIS GAME, IT'S SO GOOD!
Genius level youtube play putting an actual ad after saying "brought to you by..."
That ad placement was smootj
UNI Carmine was insane... i was actually in the stream during that NCD night
The fact that big band plays happy birthday has me on the floor ROLLING
Don't know if it"s too famous but the Super Akouma vs. Chikurin clip definitely deserves a spot in ep.3
I play kusoge games and the chaos code clip is funny because the answer is yes. It's always going to kill
woman: *makes eye contact with Sajam*
Sajam: 4:05
This is such a dope concept.
The DDR one is "Slap Happy Rhythm Busters", an old PS1 game that seems to be a weird hybrid of rhythm and fighting games.
This is so entertaining, I’d say the slayer vs sol clip I was the most right on. My brain went full analysis, I was like, well sol has burst so slayer is going to try a shorter, bigger burst of damage to try and play around that band therefore, he won’t kill.
Overall dope segment, keep it up
"Did you get mixed?"
I wanna see that in the future for real lol.
Of course the combo at 4:05 would happen to lancer
That game looks like if Fire Emblem was a fighting game and I'm interested. Is it popular?
@@chaotickreg7024 hell no lmao. It's based on the Fate v/n and anime franchise, and it's an all-time kusoge, or "shit game." Incredibly broken and unbalanced
@@reiddukes194 I looked up tournament footage and it's not as cool as I thought lol. There are a few scenes/screenshots that look like Gamecube era Fire Emblem but that's all.
The cheer sound effect at the chain shift in the second unist clip killed me
Seeing the Archer infinite clip is always nice to see
Btw you all should play Fate/Unlimited Code, it gets nutty
This is a great segment.
The halftime ad was perfectly timed
That archer unscalled super damage is silly
Not really, people like Rin can descale 10k damage rather easily, and Saber can using invisible air to reset gravity multiple times for the same effect. Archer combos are really swag tho.
Projectil super in dat game are bugged bc doesnt scale..
@@pabloarammasmanian5391 Actually that's not how it works. Caladbolg (the super used at the end of Archer's combo in the video) normally does scale to 50% damage. Only when there are projectiles on the screen when the super happens causes descaling, regardless of whether it's a projectile or not. One example is Shiro's Caliburn Super (which is not a projectile super), which can be descaled if used after his 421 moves.
Along the same lines, Saber cannot descale her Excalibur, but Saber Alter can.
@@SoysauceML i thought it did unscalled damage like if the super hit raw it ends up doing the same damage. Descaling isn't really something that happends in fighting games to my knowledge.
@@himuragoXD I meant what I said, this is likely a glitch, normally supers gets flat out 50% set scaling. Also iirc there are descaling glitch with dhc in marvel3? (ironically also by 8ing), but I'm not that familiar with the game.
Check Archer videos on my channel. You can clearly see his Caladbolg doing 1k damage in some of the combos instead of 2k. In fact it's almost impossible make his Caladbolg do full damage in a combo without activation, due to the fact that you can only cancel j236A into super during activation (the only way is doing a string where archer uses multiple j236As to create a huge distance to lengthen arrow travel time so he doesn't need the cancelling to pull it off). Because super removes the j236A projectiles (jB doesn't have this problem), you also have to time it so you use the super just as the j236A hits, which while isn't too difficult, one can fail to do so in a match.
Loving this series. Keep doing them please :]
Law's jump kick has all the active frames
The blanka clip was famous to me, a Core A Gaming subscriber
we better see some Da Kyanta if we're posting Kusoge
i wasnt there in stream for the fate clip BUT LETS GO
bring in more F/UC clips everyone
Recommend checking out Rifu's unlimited codes clips, they're pretty cool.
Best non tournament fgc content I've ever seen ngl
We need some CvS2 A-Groove customs into the mix
Bison's paint the fence is scary as hell
The charlotta clip gives it away because you can hear the KO music LMFAO
"Will it kill brought to you by-"
*raid shadow legends ad*
Im upset I keep missing these streams
Sajam editing with the beautiful timestamps.
I got an ad right after he said "Brought to you by..."
With Strive’s insane damage, I hope that you do this when it comes out.
this is the best idea since the jmcrofts fighting game jeopardy
This is like me favorite content right now
"Will it kill?" Brought to me by Fired Up! Kumamoto and Ray White Real Estate.
Looking forward to the next one.
Calling that King of Fighters Clip as heartbreaking is an understatement. The Skullgirls one was also great.
JoJo HFTF needs more respect smh
As a fun game, but that game is kusoge as shit lol
@@yano4473 and?
Hawk hollywood
Please do more of these. These are so much fun to watch.