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Old Edwards Fire Alarm Test.
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- Testing the fire alarm before disconnecting it for good. The old system was put in back when the building was built in the early 60s. No panel. Just pulls wired to horns on a 3 wire circuit. When the new system was installed in 2009, the installer did not remove the old system. So I am inspecting the new one and for it to pass, the old has to come out. Only 3 horns in the entire building and it was loud enough to be heard. The new system has 31 horns and it's not as loud.
These Edwards adaptahorns are some of the LOUDEST alarms I even know of along with the Simplex 4030 and the Autocall AC horns. I’ve heard an Edwards adaptahorn in person and it was no joke. Image school fire drills with these alarms! 😂
oh yeah they’re in every hallway at my school. fire drills always scare the crap out of me.
I work in a car wash tunnel that has an adaptahorn as the conveyor starting warning alarm, and it just shreds your ears at any time
this system was a 110volt ac system. no control panel. just switches that triggered horns. so.if power failed, no alarm. if a wire broke, no indication. it worked for what it was intended for but it needed updated. The older mechanical horns, AC or DC, usually produced a lower frequency which carried alot further than the newer higher pitched horns. something vibrating doesnt just create Soundwaves at the horn but it also transfers to the solid wall they are mounted to. so, mechanical horns are more effective. The reason they stopped making mechanical horns and went to electronic horns was because of no moving parts.
Oh yes. And consequently, new fire alarms are not as loud as old ones; not even the loudest electronic horns like the Wheelock AS, System Sensor SpectrAlert Advance and Simplex TrueAlert can compete with those old electromechanical horns!
@@ZakWolf don't forget the Edwards Integrity
WHAT?! Why is there a fire light bg12
And replaced them with gentex commanders
@@ajsmusic723 upgraded system. Also it’s Fire LITE not Fire light.
I come back to this video for nostalgia. And it's sad to see they couldn't integrate the old system into the new system. Removing such old reliable and loud technology for newer less reliable stuff, just for fire codes
for starters, less is apparently the code now. Ig just to prevent hearing loss
That sound brings back memories of my high school’s fire alarm system in Stanwood,WA the alarms sounded exactly the same as these do
The high school that I was mentioning in this video has since been torn down since the comment was added
Those could get your attention in a heartbeat but the new ones kinda get your attention but I don't think they can beat the old ones.
i had to deal with that in kindergarden
Bobby Heckard same
i had t deal with 9838s in elementary school
I had the exact same system at my elementary school, and they too still worked then. Since I'm out of school now and it's been ages since I've seen that system, I'm hoping big time those alarms are still in service.
Edit: The schools in the district, including my elementary school, are in the process of being torn down and rebuilt. I got in contact with the administrator of the schools in the district, and he told me that the fire alarms are still in use here in 2023. I was surprised that they were still active honestly. but what I asked was when the building is about to get torn down, I could have the Edwards Adaptahorns, and the 270 spos, and when he said that they were still active, he said that they will look into it when the building closes. It sounds quite promising, and I'm looking forward to it.
Please tell me you got a hold of the system
@@noahfurry4146 Imma make sure I get the system.
Have to say that their new “upgraded” fire alarm system was honestly a downgrade compared to the old system by just sound alone.
I agree. The new system sounds hideous
Although the newer system is fully up to code having Smoke/Heat Detectors, Visual Strobe, Fire Doors and the ability to automatically call the Fire Department. But I would totally agree. The old horns are much more superior at the sound aspect than the newer horn strobes.
The old one however doesn’t have battery backup. I would say it is kind of better as usually fires rarely happen during power outages so battery backup for fire alarms isn’t that important but it is required due to new codes. The old one is probably cheaper and obviously louder. Those 3 horns can easily do the job of 31
The sound of the buzzer itself definitely takes me back to my early school years when fire drills were conducted.
When I lived in Michigan my ninth 10th and 11th grade year, the high school there had the old alarm like that as well, when I moved to New Mexico to start my senior year there they had an upgrade with those red ones, but they were the ones before the strobe lights but then, of course, the alarms in the hall would go off, and you would hear short tones through the PA system intercom. But these alarms hear I remember went off during choir practice and a couple of times in the gym and one time in the gym locker room when we were changing our clothes to get ready for class right after the tardy bell rang. Those were the days.
Unlike the "upgraded" alarm system, *this* actually sounds like a real urgent emergency. Too bad the old "Edwards Fire Horns" are gone. Only 3 horns and it could be heard loud and clear, and like I said, those Edwards Fire Horns sound more like a "real urgent emergency" than the newer alarm system with the Gentex Commanders.
I mean the upgraded ones are also great but I do agree with you, older alarms will always remain og
ive never seen horns like this in a real building, nor heard them, but based on this video and most videos ive seen, they seem like they'd be TOO loud. but this is coming from someone who has sensitive hearing so
Ok look at least the Gentex Commanders sound nice, they have a very distinctive sound
NEVER INSULT THE GENTEX COMMANDER
The University of Calgary has these adaptahorns in the Kinesiology A building. The panel is a Simplex 4100ES (replaced an Edwards 6500 back in 2015), and the pulls are 270-SPOs, and some 4099-9001s and 2099-9754s scattered around.
UPDATE: THEY REPLACED THEM.
Oh wow, this sounds exactly like my grade school fire alarm circa '67, it was always dramatic when it went off with that loud buuh and we were marched outside. Like this school, ours was a modern cinder block glass and steel '56 with very little that could burn.
Thanks for taking me back, great video. JD
Man, we had these fire alarms at my old Jr. High School, the Edwards Fire Horns. I think they were labeled that way. It was either these alarms or the 4050s. They were loud as all hell, especially in the locker room.
old fire alarm horns from the 60's and 70's were really loud.
I own one of these! In case anyone's wondering, these are Edwards 360A Adaptahorns. They run on 10 volts AC.
the uploader of this video says they ran on 110 volts AC, so that means you have a different horn than seen here
@@djifirealarms I have the 120 374A and it’s just as loud in this video. It’s on my ATCE301 channel.
My old middle school had something similar to that tone, but it sounded in four short bursts and repeated after a quick pause in between. It reminded me of a klaxon on a naval ship whenever it went off...
Yes. The coded pull stations... 4-4-4-4. There is a video somewhere on RUclips that shows them.
Thought i should share history on my school. My school was built in 1965 and originally has quite a few simplex 4037s and one 4032. Around 10 years later their was an addition that added 4 adaptahorns and 270 spo's. 5 years later their was a fire that wiped out part of the original section with the 4037s. They added a new gym and fixed it up with the fire alarms being 4050s or something along the lines. Im not sure what they where. Then in the early 80s they remodled and added simplex 2903 light plates, 9838 horns and a new panel. Not sure what it was. In the 90s the whole building was replaced with 4903 9219s. Most alarms where retrofitted out with the main alarm cut out to fit the 4903s. The part with the 2903s had an electrical issue and burnt to the ground. It was removed and in 2007 they built a new addition with truealerts. And thats whats in the building today. However upstairs theirs 4 4047s still their but their not active. The years are estimated.
The middle school near my house used to have those same Edwards horns and pulls, built in 1954. In 2003 they renovated the school, and removed all the old devices (except the old annunciator, left disconnected) and put in a Simplex 4100U voice-evac system. But then that broke down five years ago so they replaced it with a Notifier NFS2-640 system.
It was having too many ground faults and wasn't working properly anymore. Then the school district had enough of Simplex.
Wow... Jeez the old system lasted almost 50 years, the new one barely lasted 10 what a joke lol
I’m proud to say that now I own an Edwards adaptahorn 374A (I found off eBay) and it’s just a loud as these ones in the video. I definitely need hearing protection with it on the loud volume, or if I adjust the screw I can make it soft to where I wouldn’t even need hearing protection. It’s an amazing item if you get it like I did, I will definitely keep it in my collection forever.
I bet you can even feel it in your body as it is low pitched
This video is perfect for a hair cut prank on your friend!
This fire alarm sounds just like the one I was so terrified of in grade school.
these freaked me out so bad as a kid in grade school I had nightmares about them
A old school and church near my house has a system like this 120vac alarms and pull stations and bells they are very loud I actually got to get some pull stations and bells from my uncle he works over there
There’s another system just like this at the Boscov’s in Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania.
That’s loud af. I can’t imagine being next to one of those horns. It must shake everything
My old high school had one of these horns in each classroom plus outside. They are much louder than the newer piezo ones.
Every classroom? A bit overkill for the noise that this thing makes
Sounds like a 1996 Super desk fan motor running on high speed without the blades
Damn. Not even the most dedicated of pranksters would want to set these horrendously loud horns
i never really never understood these types of horns, just sounds like a loud vent
it sounds like a modern scoreboard horn
I like this. It's loud, but I like it.
I think it would be a pretty cool ideal to combine the old system with the new
it's possible if they convert it to ac
It sounds like a zombie going through puberty
XD
Those alarms sound like an extra loud hydraulic motor from an elevator
NOO new fire alarms :(
The gentex commander replaced the Edwards mechanical horn
Love ac horns! Too bad they’re gone now. Edit: just watched the vid of the new system and It is disgusting
Welp, this is a lesson on why you should never breach through an emergency exit that is clearly marked.
At my school they had Edward's horns on acid showers in the science labs
my dad had this in his school when he was growing up
Wow they are as loud as my edwards 372 i nickname the beast
I saw two of the horns, where's the third one at? it sounded pretty close in the weight room...
Form what the description says it goes to show the old can be better then the new
My elementary school i go to the fire alarm sounds the same
Its the simplex 4903 that im talking about btw
Since they were all the same pitch I guess they were running off 60hz Alternating Current (AKA AC Voltage). AC constantly switches from positive to negative power from 2 wires. 3rd wire is the ground wire I believe
Wow that the wired thing I never see before
31 horns and not loud enough compared to *3*
Just goes to prove older alarms are better
a lot of stupid people think higher pitched alarms are more effective it’s about less current draw for the client but possibly money grabbing for the manufacturer because you have to install more to be as effective
Sounds like the barbers hair clippers close to ur eat
Pity they don't make fire horns like these anymore.
They should’ve taken the old fire alarm system out as it looks stupid and odd that they have two pull stations in the same area you would not know which one to use I’ve seen that a lot in the United kingdom fire alarm system is updated but old detectors and call points and sounders are just left in place
Sounds like a lawnmower
Had Those Same Fire Alarms In Elmentry School The Alarms From Heal Lol
Had These In My how Mentry school Back In The Day The Fire alarms from hell Lol
NICE!
Nice.
I wish I could get the Edwards they are cool. or they throw them away already?
I wish my school had a pool
huh, so the motor that causes it to sound is hooked up directly to AC. that 60hz hum is very telling
Arman Kordi It' s a transformer.
@James Wheeler True.
Why is there a BG12 at the end of the video??!
You’re lucky. Your high school has a swimming pool 🏊♂️
These were running from the mains and not 24v or something like that?
I prefer DC mechanical horns though.
Could have left it that sounds pretty "healthy"
ca you hook it back up in 2020 to panel or like it was
sounds like a leafblower lol
I meant ear
what does the new system have I saw either a notifier or a fire lite BG12 pull station at the end of the video.
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Old fire alarms
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Why do they sound like 4050 horns?
I hope you didn't dispose those horns
i love Canada =D
Why was a new system installed and the old ones disconnected? Was the old system eventually removed?
Well there was no panel for 1 and 2 the system wasn't up to code. Those horns didn't have strobes for deaf people.
You know when you hear the fire alarm that means get out
Unless you're the one who's testing the fire alarm system.
This alarm sounds so disturbing
there was only 3. not sure. I didn't throw them away.
thats awesome! Did you salvage the whole system? Love those rare 270-spos without the glass bar
Why did they stop using the Old Edwards system?
Theirs 2 pull stations on the same wall one Edwards and one games pull?
The one on the left is for the new system. They never disconnected the old when they put in the new, so that's why there's two pull stations side by side. He took the old system out after this test, so this was the final sounding of it.
Keep the old ones....
Teah and hook it up to new panel and use them
What model of the Adapt-A-Horn was it?
Cesar Blanco Guessing Edwards 374-N5.
73665/10 …
Old Edwards Road?
😂
those horns are old!!!
and still work!
+armorsecsys what are you going to do with them?
Bet the new system is crappy Spectralert advances that sound like trash or EST Genesis horn strobes that also sound terrible
Nope they are gentex commander horn strobs
See good Mate Yor u or ok Mate at sounds good Mate ok you or u ok mate see Greg here you or u ok mate
Hi Mate at sound sou good Mate I hop you or u or u ok mate form Greg bouchard war or form Mate war de you do a tat mate
Old POS setup
This is probably before FACPs were required. It works. You can hear the 3 alarms though out the building. It works well. It’s better then the POS spectalert advances.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign I just think it needs an update for safety.
@@SomeDudeWithAnExitSign and yea those spectralert advances are awful
@@TheJakeman789 Well it did get a upgrade. Its all Commander 3s now. Its seen in action right here: ruclips.net/video/Ok6D8zNEh3U/видео.html