FIRE ALARM @ SCHUMACHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- You are viewing the original pull rod fire alarm being activated at Schumacher Elementary School in Akron, Ohio. This beautiful school was built in 1929 and sadly, demolished in 2011. The manual pull rod fire alarm was automated in the 1950's with an Autocall fire alarm system that used vibrating horns.
You've gotta love this guy's content, its underrated
Many old school buildings in the state of Oregon used IBM or Federal Model A sirens for their indoor fire alarm. I wish someone would record them before the remaining ones are gone.
I know this is an old ass comment, but which schools were you thinking about? There's a couple historic schools in the Bend area that I might try to record someday. I'm currently trying to get a job with the Bend-La Pine school district.
Where I currently work, they have one of these Old Alarms as what I think is a break Alarm. I was working & it was so loud it scared me
The school buildings in my town (4 elementary - PK-4, 2 middle schools 5-6, 1 Intermediate - 7-8, and 1 high school) all have Simplex systems (4901 horn/strobes and 4002 or 4020 panels). 2 of the elementary buildings were WPA projects (Mid 30s), 2 others were built in the 50s, and the other 2 in the early 60s, and the Int. building was in the mid-60s. The high school was built in 2000, and it replaced one built in the mid-50s.
The broken resistor makes the horns sound screwed up
My middle school which opened in 56 originally had hook style pull stations that were coded during my attending years but some point after I left they retrofitted EST Genesis speaker strobes with the modern pull stations. I dont know how they sound since I wasnt attending that school while it had the EST Genesis.
I wonder if Cincinnati had any of these pull alarm systems. The school I spent a year in when we first moved there didn't have a fire alarm system at all! I know they have one now but not 19 years ago when I was there.
Many school districts in Cincinnati, Ohio did in fact have the old pull-rod fire alarm systems. Unfortunately, many have been replaced with newer, and cheaper I might add, systems. Also, when older schools are demolished, these old pull-rod systems usually go down with the buildings and end up in a landfill, bells and all.
Yea my old school have a very old pullrod fire alarm with a loud horns
Cool
Are these autocall horns?
Yes they are. The horn Model # is S-121
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It makes me so mad that they demolish buildings with such old fire alarm systems! They could've just done repairs to give this building more life.
Unfortunately, it is more costlier to repair an old building, though you are right, it is upsetting to see old buildings torn down.
How did those systems work? Was there one pull bar per floor or several throught out each floor? Is it just one horn per floor too or are they dotted around each floor? Your vids are great. :)
Sorry if i keep asking but were these ones saved?
Is it just me or can you hear the supervisory bell in the Autocall panel?
You are absolutely correct. That is the supervisory bell you hear in the background. The master FACP was a few doors down in the boiler room. The sound was coming from there.
That is a really short cadence. Is it a bad code switch that activates only at the very top of the cog on the code wheel? (I know next to nothing about Autocall)
The problem was that there was the wrong resistor on the control panel. The resistor had a higher ohm value then was needed, which resulted in a weaker buzzing sound. You are also correct that the cog on the code wheel was out of adjustment which resulted in 3-4-4-4 instead of 4-4-4-4 in the very first round of signals. Great observation on your part!
The Fire Alarm Sounds Just Like The TNT Boxes From Crash Bandicoots 1 2 & 3
I'll be honest, that panel didn't seem to deliver the correct electrical charge. Either that or the horn was bad. Either way I hope something got taken from it.
+The Bigmindcreator AKA Elliot You are absolutely correct. They had the wrong resistors on the control panel. That is why the horns sound weak. Great observation!! This fire alarm system was salvaged for historical preservation before the school was demolished.
It's very sad that these older buildings had to be torn down. Wouldn't they think it'd make more sense to say, convert them to apartments? There are MANY examples
of older school buildings being re-purposed in such a way!
Nice vid. It was also an old school like Idlewild and Roselle. Too bad it was demolished in 2011.
What year is this video? I went to Schumacher from 1967-1973. I so remember the fire alarm! This was the leave-the-building alarm. The other alarm was a continuous ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding....which was the go-the-the-hallway-and-face-the-locker alarm.
This video was shot in 2008. It is the pull rod fire alarm that is featured in this particular video. The class-change bell you speak about was also used for tornado drills.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Thanks!
awesome videos! I'm surprised so many schools in your area had these systems still in them! All the schools in my city replaced their old systems between the 1998-2005. Do you work with the school board or something to test these systems?
I am a member of the Fire Museum Network, documenting and saving these artifacts for historical preservation before they are all gone. Unfortunately, most of this old fire alarm hardware ends up in a dumpster/landfill when these old schools and other public institutions are demolished. You would be surprised how many of these older fire alarm systems are still in use, especially in older school buildings. Since most public schools are grandfathered in, they can keep using their old fire alarm systems. The cost of a complete new system is very costly for most school districts. So if they can, they just keep maintaining the older systems.
Old School Fire Alarms Oh Ok, I see. & That makes sense! With the schools in my city, the schools that had their system replaced only had new notification appliances and the new panel. Plus, it would make sense why my old high school hasn't gotten their system replaced, I imagine it will be costly! I'm actually hoping myself to try and get parts of my old high schools system if they ever replace it/close the building down. Thanks for the awesome videos, keep up the good work!
Thank you for your comments and feedback, I really appreciate them!
I'm glad they do. I love the old ones better then the new ones these days.
My middle school was built around the 1960
This horn's buzzer is shorter than the others I've heard. But like the others, it's Code 4-4.
Shelby Thibodeau actually that one is code 4-4-4-4 not 4-4
***** Close enough.
i guess so
Well is the panel supposed to be for the 4-4-4-4 Bells?
You can use horns or bells. The panel is designed to use either/or.
+Old School Fire Alarms Ok
Does the big pull rod go through the ceiling?
Excellent question Brett ! Yes, the pull rod goes through the first and second floor ceilings, all the way to the 3rd floor, where it is attached to the third floor ceiling by an extension spring. Each floor has a manual trip bell that is tied to the pull rod. When you pull the rod, it rings all the bells on each floor at the very same time. The actuator switch is on the first floor and is also tied to the pull rod by a chain. When you pull the rod, not only does it ring the trip bells, but also triggers the actuator switch, which then sends a signal to the Autocall fire alarm control panel that sounds the fire alarm horns.
Is there a panel in the school?
Yes, there was a panel in this school. This particular school had the same type of Autocall control panel that was in George Barber School. Unfortunately, this school was also demolished.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms the inside looks new
Is there a fire panel in this video
No.
Sounds like music to me 🎵
Wait is the Horn dying or the power isn't enough?
You are one of the few people who has noticed that. The wrong resistor was on the control panel which was cutting back on the power going to the horns. Even I didn't realize it was the resistors causing the problem until I look at the control panel. Great observation!
Old School Fire Alarms hopefully that didn't cause damage to any electrical compenents
omg
its a meant to do that
How do you reset the system?
The system automatically resets itself. Pretty good for a 60 year old fire alarm system, wouldn't you say?
Absolutely.
+Old School Fire Alarms
Pretty cool. I kinda wish I lived in 20th century.
The newer fire alarm systems are way too complex and have too much room for error. The voice evac system my school has malfunctions at least 4 times a year ( at very inconvenient times).
You are absolutely correct Daniel. I hate the new fire alarm systems. They're all plastic, digital junk that is way over priced. The new control panels malfunction all the time and when they go bad, many times you have to replace the whole damn board. The old fire alarm systems you see in my videos were all built in America and made to last with the finest materials and craftsmanship. When something did go wrong with them, which was very rare, they were very easy to fix.
***** the horn looks like a simplex/ibm 4030
I wish they still did me just like back then.
That horn is an autocall 121-S.
Daniel Bragg Many tragic fire incodints has occured already because when the system malfunctions, nobody will not know there is a fire. Sometimes newer things just make it worse instead of better. However, nobody isn't complaning to the fire alarm manufactures about those incodents or maybe they are and they still don't want to go back to making those autocall fire alarm control panels.
At the mall a huge fire was burning the system said " the following is a test this is only a test" The horns shut off It came clear when smoke was coming in it was no test. I was very uneasy than the horns came back on and said " Everyone must evacuate"
The pulses kinda sound like a Simplex 2001 Coder Card
Yes, I agree. Believe it or not, the resistors on the Autocall control panel were the wrong resistors which weakened the sound of the horns.
Today I received my Simplex 4030 That I bought off eBay. It’s crazy loud.
That is a quick 4444 tone. Sounds like it means business
During a drill the alarm at my school we stay in if it was pulled by accident so it is REALLY, REALLY ann8ying
what code sounding is this
This is the 4-4-4-4 Cadence Marching Code. The horns sound weak because there was a resistor on the control panel that was the wrong size.
Is 4 the cadence code
4-4-4-4 is the Cadence Marching Code.
I want this horn
Buy it on eBay or Amazon! :D
@@destisinawe1221 they are over 50 years old
+SpectrAlert Advance Lover keep looking and you’ll be lucky!
@@destisinawe1221 not on amazon
Hey what happens to your glasses
Sometimes I wear my contact lenses.
What a shame a historic building was lost...why was it torn down?
The school was torn down to make way for a new school. We unfortunately live in a throw away society. The new school that replaced the old one won't last 40 years.
Old School Fire Alarms
This surprises me, most old building in my town don't get torn down unless they are ugly, otherwise they are remodeled, My school is a remodeled building originally built in 1913.
Yhowbyjytub310 Believe me, your school is the exception in this country. I'm happy to hear that your school was saved from the wreaking ball. If it was built in 1913, I bet it's a beautiful, well built school.
I did some research, 4 of the highschools in my city were made before 1930 the other two were made before 1970 these are the buildings that are still in use today, i didnt count the ones that are no longer in use
Yhowbyjytub310 That's the same where I live, too! There's a former elementary building (2 1/2-story brick, built in the 1920s and extensively renovated and expanded in 1995) which closed in 2008, and it now houses the school district's central offices.
I HAVE THAT HORN BUT ITS A SIMPLEX 4030 AND THE PULL STATION IS A SIMPLEX CODED WHEEL PULL STATION BUT THE CODE IS 4-4-4-4
It looks like Goodrich middle school.
Lemme settle some complaints about why the school was probably demolished...
1) Asbestos - Usually the #1 reason why buildings are torn down instead of remodeled. Before people found out how bad it mutilated your respiratory system it was used for just about everything, and in many scenarios it's more cost effective to tear down the building and rebuild it then to rid and replace every square inch of insulation.
2) Ageing - Cars wear out after a few years, clothes become hole-filled and drained of their color, and old boards become scratched up and warped. A building is no different. Also once again Mr. Governmental can't give you enough money to keep fixing it.
3) Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA '90) - This one is mainly about replacing old systems- ADA compliance is a bitch, certain things must be a certain way, ramps and elevators should be installed, and honestly bringing an old building up to ADA compliance is such and undertaking that it's not cost effective.
I think it's time to get off the nostalgia train guys...
+Astronautical I agree that many times it is more economical to tear down and build new instead of renovating an old building. However, with that said, many times it would still be much cheaper to do asbestos abatement, new energy efficient windows, new HVAC, plumbing and electrical instead of demolishing an old building and constructing a brand new one. The key is how well built the old building is. For example, many old schools that were built at the turn of the century, were built like castles, with a 100 year lifespan. The new schools that they are replacing them with only have a 30 year lifespan. The new schools being built today are CHEAP and built with inferior building materials. Many old schools were also designated as fallout shelters due to their superior "long lasting" construction. The new schools of today, because of their inferior and poor construction materials, could never be used for such purposes.
+Old School Fire Alarms Wow. I know that.
Agreed. Today's cheaper-made building could NEVER withstand, say a direct hit from a tornado or not suffer minor damage from strong straight-line winds.
How come people have to destroy thing instead of remodeling or fixing up? People produce cheap things these days and not like they did back in the time era of the 19's.
Yea , but I dunno why
Because of maintence cost. If they destroy a building. Instead of renovating the builders or. Contractors get paid. More. And because of. Outdated appliance. For examples Lighting heating. Water fountains That's Ohio law.
Simplex 4030
This is not a Simplex 4030 but in fact a model S-121 Autocall single projection horn.
A waste of a beautiful old structure
I could not agree more. This was truly a beautiful old school that should have been renovated instead of being torn down and replaced with a cheaper built school. The new school won't last 30 years.
Old School Fire Alarms To me it would have been better to renovate the building keeping the original structure. My high schools current structure was finished building in 1949 and underwent renovation from 1996-1999 and still has the same floorplan except the class rooms are smaller then before and the building became more state of the art. Even the fire alarm systems were replaced with the EST Integrity horn strobes with the Integrity strobe in all classrooms.
+Old School Fire Alarms
Yeah I can't believe what kids have become these days. I don't think a lot of kids had a lot of illegal things with them back then. I just wish I knew what kids and become because they can always get bad and ugly.
YES It sucks. They could have renovated that school. Same with George Barber Elementary school
Absolutely 100% correct.