Alice in Wonderland (2010) - Nostalgia Critic
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2015
- Tim Burton! The Nostalgia Critic reviews 2010's Alice in Wonderland.
Originally aired on 3/11/2014.
Alice in Wonderland is a 2010 American period adventure fantasy film directed by Tim Burton from a screenplay written by Linda Woolverton and produced by Walt Disney Pictures. The film stars Mia Wasikowska in the title role, with Johnny Depp, Anne Hathaway, Helena Bonham Carter, Crispin Glover, and Matt Lucas, while featuring the voices of Alan Rickman, Stephen Fry, Michael Sheen, and Timothy Spall. A live-action adaptation and re-imagining of Lewis Carroll's works, the film follows Alice Kingsleigh, a nineteen-year-old who accidentally falls down a rabbit hole, returns to Underland and alongside the Mad Hatter, helps restore the White Queen to her throne by fighting against the Red Queen and her Jabberwocky, a dragon that terrorizes Underland's inhabitants.
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I just realized that this movie is a rip-off of "Hook" - a pseudo-sequel to a classic fantasy story in which the main character grows up and forgets about his past as that fantasy character. He returns accidentally and all the characters act like they've met him before even though he doesn't remember. He denies it at first, but he must accept his past and become the hero once more.
Oscar Dighton thank you
Another similarity is that both fantasy lands reflect the imagination and logic of a child. The difference being that Hook kept that aspect, while Alice in Wonderland tried to make the world dark and realistic.
Which completely defeats the purpose of a land based on a child's imagination.
CommentPoster10 I
commentposter10 holy shit YOU'RE RIGHT.
CommentPoster10 its tim burton ripping off the skeleton and dipping it in black ink
Soooo Alice in Wonderland ends with her leading the British Colonization of East Asia?
Alice the Imperialist
#bourgeoisgirlpower
Look on the bright side, at least she's finally smiling.
With the exception of Hong Kong the British didnt colonize east asia, although they did colonize a bit of southeast asia.
basically yes
15:05 ITS DA SKRIIIIIIILLLL!!!
Fun Fact: Hatter's switching accents was meant to show multiple personalities, which were brought on by his trauma after his family's deaths. In Through the Looking Glass, he doesn't switch accents in the past.
Either that or he's just, well...mad
I would believe that if Johnny Depp didn't do it so much in other movies
@@Wyrmington to me they should have put me in the movie. It would have been called HAMiSH IN UNDERLaND
And instead of me returning it will be my first trip to Underland.
I thought the mad hatter was just a goof ball who likes tea
@@staringcorgi6475 Johnny Depp thought it would add to his character in the live action.
Alice's sad face: :|
Alice's angry face: :|
Alice's face when she wins a billion dollars: :|
Actress of Alice is better than the actress of Bella only by a smidge (I hate Twilight)
Critic after comparing this to Care Bears:
(Creepy Frollo Smile)
To be fair, that'd be my reaction if I found out I won a billion dollars too.
:|
The saddest fucking part about this movie was the "flashbacks" of young Alice coming to Wonderland for the first time actually seems like a decent, fun, slightly odd take on Wonderland and would've been MILES better than what they churned out instead.
OnlyRoke at least they tried something original, imagine a bad and predictable movie.
Daniel Ferreira why imagine something he's already reviewing?
Yeah. Even the little girl was more Alice like and way more likeable for that small seconds she was in than what we got.
Daniel Ferreira *looks at Alice in wonderland (2010)*
OnlyRoke I would've wanted THAT movie
All those in favor of the Critic reviewing "Alice Through The Looking Glass," click Like. We need more Malice and Carrotjuice, folks!
and that piece of shit Looking Glass Wars whenever it ends up made into a film.
Basically, it's Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, except it has the BALLS to say the book was "childish and silly".
Mad Hatter is a trained assassin, the chesire cat is a genetic abomination, and Alice is a magical princess.
wait... which one is bullshit for babbies again?
+Kimani Wilson-Hunte The trailer looked good
Hewylewis the last part is really sad because I loved King Steffan in the original, that Scrumps song with him and the other guy getting drunk while the bard was already smashed... I just realized how weird binge drinking in a Disney film is... But it was just a fun scene with a bunch of likable characters.
Hewylewis yeah
Ai
It still kills me that a character who is suppose to have such an active imagination and not be normal is just so painfully bland and says everything with such little emotion or expression.
Also is it just me or does the child who plays young Alice seem more expressive and naturally cheerful and curious compared to adult Alice, even if she had very little screentime
I wonder if it's just burn out.
He became famous for his art and design style and has the reputation for introducing the strange into the mundane.
But maybe he's just out of it. You spend the your time painting the same thing over and over, eventually that loses it's meaning.
Maybe what he needs is a change.
I feel like Burton was onto something picking a subtle actress with a rich internal life, but what she won him over with in the casting auditions simply didn't translate well to screen - especially after all the 3D and editing. My sister and I noted several times she doesn't interact with the 3D very well, the script doesn't bring out her best either.
Bruh same
Honestly I think that was one of the biggest problems with this movie. She wasn't creative or expressive and her overall attitude was too bland for the movie. One of the things that made the book and 1951 version so great was Alice's ability to keep her personality and remain stable despite her environment. I think they misinterpreted her remaining Alice for her just not caring. She still showed emotion throughout the story in the 1951 version. This Alice was just not a lovable character.
Apparently in the book, the Queen of Hearts did punish everyone by ordering their heads chopped off. But once they were gone, the king would secretly pardon them and they'd go back to work once the queen forgot about them.
So the regardless of the outcome of the trial, the Knave of Hearts would have been alright the entire time considering the King would have pardoned him anyways after the sentence.
@@hunterolaughlin Pretty much.
Yes, that‘s true.
So she has an enabler, that was deep😅
Didn't the king die in the universe?
"Yeah but I'm a celebrity. When you dress weird it's crazy; when I dress weird it's avant garde" *proceeds to walk off sassily*
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD SCENE AND I can't find anyone talking about it in the comments :(
Alexa, play "Can't get you out of my head"
I can't find the time of the scene!
I was reading this right when the scene happened to happen.
@@Rainbowthewindsage
Funny same thing just happened to me.
*Slams down hand*
I can not agree more!!!!
Gah, the part towards the end in the real world, where Alice dances in the middle of the crowd to "show them up" or whatever...it hurts.
I feel like that whole scene at the end was rushed. Like she had to go to each individual person and wrap up their conflict in 5 seconds or less.
It was the dumbest part of the movie
ShadowKnux372 The whole movie hurts
Juanmasacre 36 I was bleeding from cringe on that part of the movie
@Gideon Carney ... Goddamn it nappa
Ironically, seeing those few short seconds of Alice's flashback as a child already look like a better adaptation of Alice in Wonderland than what we got! The child actress isn't nearly as bland, the scenes are much more colorful (well, in comparison to the rest of the film at least), there's more energy to the characters, and it looks pretty fitting to the themes of being an observer in a world of insanity. Just those split second scenes were significantly better than the rest of the hour and forty-eight minutes we got
I absolutely hated her acting. Her permanent scowl on her face made me want to slap her.
I wanted to say just that! The actress that plays Alice as a kid actually gave us some laughing, smiling, fear and sadness. But then she...well...."grew up".
I get why everything was grungy; her father had died & the cares of adulthood had been weighing on her since her adolescence started, so her inner world was made dimmer & her imagination had suffered.
But I think it would have made more sense to do a proper trilogy, or 2 parter like the books, and start with the regular story of Alice in her childhood years where everything was vibrant bc she still had both her parents & society was not heaping expectations on her yet.
I think Malice is the Alice from the Alice madness Returns game
Yep and a way better Alice than Tim Burton’s version
I love that game :D
It would've been a fantastic movie!
Thank you captain obvious.
American McGee's Alice/ Madness Returns would've made a better movie than this one
My worst complaint with this movie was making Alice in wonderland a chosen one narrative. In the book, and most other adaptations, she's the observer. I mean she does stuff to effect the world, like the part with the Queen of Hearts, but she was never the main drive of the story, the world was! Adding a chosen one narrative just gives the world a focus, WHICH ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE!
Now I do think a different take on a previous made world, rather it is a lighter take or darker take, can work, even one with Alice in wonderland. The problem is this "Reimagining" is that it lost sight of the original story, which is the lunacy and the WONDER of wonderland!
By the sounds of it, George Miller should be good enough for this series. He's usually pretty good when it comes to the surroundings and background being more interesting than the already interesting main character.
Eh hem. If I may. This is Disney
Their whole fucking thing is the chosen one narrative now. Name me one disney film in the last ten years without that narrative
@@nightmareeclipse8383 wreck it Ralph I think?
@@joshholland8564 That's true although now it's been 11 years since that movie came out.
RIP Alan Rickman. May his captivating voice never fade from our memories.
Here here
finally someone who mentions him :) and i agree with you :D
Snape
He'll always be the Metatron to me
@@KRAPYBARA84 Marvin from Hitchiker's for me.
This is one of my all time favourite nostalgia critic reviews, it’s creative has lots of effort, and it’s a kind of tribute to Tim Burton with all his weirdness and creativity both good and bad.
Yeah
pitty for timmy
That moment when American McGee’s Alice games is closer to the books than Burton’s.
Yep! And I love it more because of it creative design and amazing world design.
I wish EA went back to making good games instead of being money hungry glitch mess.
Alice in Wonderland (2010) - a samey Burton film that we've basically seen at least 15 times before - $1.025 *Billion* gross. The 23rd highest grossing film of *all fucking time*.
Big Eyes - an actually interesting film, with *good* acting, that still let Tim Burton do plenty of Burtonisms, yet still actually tried new things and told a story we haven't seen a million times before - $29.3 Million.
God fucking damn it World...
Alice In Wonderland also overtook Batman as Tim Burton's highest-grossing movie.
nobody cares
And I just learnt, from your comment, that Big Eyes was an actual movie and not some kind of joke - or something that did end up being cancelled.
I liked Big Eyes too, but still it can't be compared to his best films. I think he needs to reinvent himself if he wants to stay relevant. People don't watch the Wonderland movies for him, they watch them because of the name.
Toffeebomb
Even though Tim Burton still remains as relevant today as he has been since he became an A-list director.
When the director admits he doesn't like, relate to, or even understand the source material, but thinks it would make for some good cosplay - this is what you get.
Mr. W citation?
Tim Burton: "I want to make a version of Alice in Wonderland that is very different from the original, and has a focus on political conflict, on how the Queen of Hearts/Red Queen is a massive evil asshole, and is more a story of a hero than a mad Fustercluck, does anyone have any ideas?"
"Butcher the original source material by not giving it the respect it deserves?" "Yeah Alright."
Me: "Why don't you just make an adaptation of Frank Beddor's 'The Looking Glass Wars'? It would fit perfectly mate."
Tim Burton: "The fuck is The Looking Glass Wars?"
Me: "Just look it up, it's kind of the plot of this movie, just actually done right."
This was an adaptation of The Looking Glass Wars. A shitty one, but an adaptation of that nonetheless.
I heard that Tim Burton supposedly only directed this movie so Disney would let him bring his animated adaptation of Franken-weenie to life. So maybe Tim's not entirely to blame. Franken-weenie was originally a short film made by Tim Burton in the '80's when he was still working with Disney and Disney didn't let him make it into a feature film because "it was too scary" (I watched it and the only scary thing to me was the dog getting run over, but that was off-screen). Meanwhile (sarcasm mode activated) apparently stabbing out eyes, dumping decapitated heads into rivers and slicing off heads is A-OK for kids.
I have to check that out!!!
Minor thing: If the scroll foretells of every event since "the beginning", it foretells their party getting wrecked by the Jabberwocky. In a world run on complete predestination, they *can't* take precautions because they *didn't* take precautions. That scene is actually totally consistent and purely logical...Which is, of course, a huge problem for Alice in Wonderland.
Tim Burton probably didn't even stop to think about all the weird philosophical questions about fate that one point raises.
@r.jclark4641 Maybe it's more a thing of if they try to prevent it, their motions to try and stop it will cause it to occur anyway.
Burton said that he thought the book was bad and that he was improving it. I really think that says everything you need to know.
That's bs
Remember kids, it doesnt matter if the director is talented, if he doesnt like the material, this shit comes up
I agree with Burton. He turned it from whacky surrealism to bland and generic with his stylish designs to compensate.
And no, that is not sarcasm. I found the old movie so fucking random that it made it hard to follow as a child, especially since I have always despised nonsense with no overall structure.
Quincy Connors just because it isn’t your style doesn’t mean it was poorly made like this bland mush
I never liked him and now I get why
Describes "Scottish" as separate from "British". You just made a lot of friends in Scotland. ;)
Well, it is. Saying they aren't is like saying a Southern accent is the same as a New York accent jut because they are both from America.
But there is still a difference in British accents
a Scottish accent is the same as a British accent to some people? Hell has a few thousand more seats if you're free
It’s amazing how people mix us up
But Scotland is in Britain... It isn’t an English accent, but it is a British accent, just as much as a Welsh accent is.
as a former goth kid of the 2000s, I still find myself genuinely wishing i could go to Burtonland...
It doesn’t exist, and Tim Burton is over rated
@@mikebernhardt92 of course it doesn't exist, are you 5?
@@mikebernhardt92 pfffttt
@@mikebernhardt92 calm down dude. No need to shut your pants while bitching
As a former goth kid in the 2000s that was only in the phase for about a month after realizing how stupid I looked in the eyes of others, I could care less about a Tim Burton inspired theme park.
6:41 “when in doubt, stay silent”
THE MOST BRITISH PHRASE IVE EVER HEARD 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
1. Remain*
2. What does that have to do with British people? 🤣
Tamara's British accent is actually pretty damn good.
breasthound *English
*No one cares.
breasthound *Get It Right London isn't the only place in England or Britain for that matter
No one outside your nation cares about how one should address the uber-specific accents you want everyone in the world to know. Your nationalistic pride is your own problem, not anyone else's.
breasthound England has as much national pride as a Dry sponge has water
I don't even refer to this movie as an adaptation of the Lewis Carroll books. Just a movie that is only based on characters and events from them.
This is actually, not an adaptation of Alice in wonderland............. Its an adaptation of the looking glass wars.........................
Then why is the new one called through the looking glass?
Then why is the new one called through the looking glass?
Triple Layer Animator Tim doesn't know what he's doing and the sequel to the looking glass wars is (I believe) Through the Looking glass.
Ask Disney's marketing department. It probably wasn't Tim Burton's title.
I wanna give the film credit for making the queen of hearts, knights cards. Things used for a game of cheating, bets, lack of trust, and sometimes resulting in death out of money just for anger about a card game. I feel this really sums up the queen of hearts character. While the white queens knights are supposed to look like chess pieces, A game that is strategic, calm, and requires whit, Also matching her character.
Mainly, it reflects the kingdoms of both the original books (cards in Wonderland, chess in Through the Looking Glass)
That said, I do admire this insightful take on it
Ever After High's 'Way Too Wonderland' is actually very tied to the book. It was done amazingly for a kids show.
It's like they tried to turn wonderland into Narnia
TaylorLynn FFA but worse
At lest it was not as bad as the Voyage of the Dawn Treader movie.
Ok it was that bad but still.
Gosh I hate that move. SO MANY CHANGES!
TaylorLynn FFA you know narnia was a mess too right?
Not even, it’s like they tried to cross wonderland with Hellsing.
you stole that
This movie had great visuals but it was so.......colourless. Everything was just shaded over in grey instead of being eye-popping and bright. Normally I don't care if something doesn't follow the source to a T as long as it makes sense but NC is right that this version didn't. Wonderland can't work as a dramatic war movie if someone can literally sip some chicken soup and turn into a kaiju.
*TLDR:* this movie only exists as a corporate cash grab and so that edgy goth kids can feel unique about pretending to be emotionless and quoting the "i'm mad but all the best people are" bit.
powerstar 2028 being emotionless and listening to Green Day is arguably more boring
Same with anything about the joker. I like the character but edgy teens love to quote him like its some philosophical bullshit and try to act like him.
@@massee2119 which one?
The second movie add color as if to show that before, everything was grey due to the war but that the wonderland recovered it's pride after Alice killed the Jaberowky, but you do have a point
As a kid, I loved this movie and it still has a soft spot in my heart due to some of the creative stuff it uses but when I watch it, it kinda hurts now due to the blandness of everyone though they are very talented actors and voice actors
I actually kinda liked this movie because the style was different. It wasn't the best movie ever but it was kinda entertaining sometimes
Nice cosplay of Alice Madness Returns. XD
Now that is a heck of a game.
Teddy The DerpyWolfDragon yep and guess what shes a psycho to yaaaaay
Yep that was dark wonderland done right
@@climber6420 pretty good cosplay from Reboot of Watcher of the Woods TV Movie one.
@@climber6420 pretty good cosplay from Reboot of Watcher of the Woods TV Movie one.
Alice saying "off with your head!" was kind of badass
Honestly, that 5 seconds of the movie was good
I'll give it a point there, that scene was pretty damn cool.
Let’s take it further
Dorothy says “I’ll get YOU my pretty” before throwing a bucket of water on the witch
Wendy says “Prepare to die, Hook!” before stabbing Hook in the chest
Belle says “Be our guest” before pushing Gaston off the castle
Hmmm... A remake where the story is needlessly complicated, shares its title with the original work and the characters act in a dark and out of character way...
Sonic 06, is that you?
albertoandroidain It all makes sense now!
albertoandroidain What killed the game was the glitchy unpolished gameplay. The only thing terrible about the story was the kissing scene.
But Sonic 06 isn't a remake
Skankindead Gameplay For What I've heard, Sonic 06 was originally supposed to be a reboot of the Sonic series.
albertoandroidain I know, but Sonic 06 doesn't have any of the same plot except, "Doctor Eggman steals the emeralds."
THE TIM BURTON SONG (3:20)
Danny Elfman:
"It's Tim Bur-ton!
"There's spirals everywhere.
"It's Tim!
"Let's get you fucked up hair.
"It's Tim!
"Where everything is style over substence but it looks good so who cares!
"It's Tim!
"It's Tim Bur-ton!
"All angles are escew.
"It's Tim!
"With foggy lenses too!
"It's Tim!
"Where all supporting characters are Kings holding the movies under wings and all the leads are 'bout as interesting as glue!
"It's Tim!
"This world of such uniqueness has been done a million times: a dark and gloomy outlet for suberbianites to whine. And though it's saying little hipsters think it's saying more. It's selling much more whiteness than a rich albino whore.
"Remakes! Reboots! They're making us a ton,
"Of Loot! And anything that's new,
Is rare, and yes the style's showing wear and tear but all the profit's clearly there and will it get old? We don't care. Try something different we don't dare! Cause our supplies of darkened dyes are making millions by the share!
"TIM! BUR! TON!"
Malice:
"Very good. We're looking for the black rabbit if you don't mi-"
Danny Elfman:
"And now, the rendition with the whimsical choir that can only sing in vowls!
Aaa! Aaa! Aaaaaa Aa! Ooo! Ooo! Oooooo!"
Malice:
"I beg your pardon but this doesn't help us."
Danny Elfman:
"Lalalalalalalalalalalal lolololo La!"
Malice:
"If you could just direct us-"
Danny Elfman:
Aaa! Aaa! Aaaaaa Aa! Ooo! Ooo! Oooooo! Hee Hee Lalalalalala-"
Malice: "Well, I tried to be nice, excuse me."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
(sounds of gruesome murder)
I don’t want to ruin 69 likes
So if the movie takes place in Underland, then it's technically Undertale.
I Wish!
It's more like Deltarune, because of the card motifs.
@@phoenixsnilloc995 the best plot twist would be at the end of the credits, we appear in the red queens basement, and find the jaberwalkie’s original master, with two shadow piercing eyes, before all goes black and we hear them laugh wildly
“Alice is home at last!”
When me and my best friend watched a movie we would often walk out of the theater talking about the flick we had watched. I remember us looking at each other at the same time when the credits rolled up and walking out speechless until we got into her car when she asked me "What do you think?" And all could say was. " i didnt like it."
This movie is number two in my personal list of "Biggest Time Wasting Movies". I will never regain this time....and i gained nothing from it 🤦🏻♀️
shirophoenix01 What’s number one?
K1naku5ana3R1ka The last airbender
that moment when the plotline of Critic's video is more coherent, tearjerking and powerful than the plot of the movie he's reviewing. niice.
Almost like he's reviewing- oh I don't know- a Disney movie?
Y’ever watched the Nutcracker 3D review? Shit hurted
A FEEEEEEAMLILY PICTURE!!!!!
Bring the kiddies!
Bayylien Rahn that’s funny respect
Bayylien Rahn, that's sonic x, Sonic's scare test(aka, the audience's mental scare test) in a nutshell.
@David Rosales are you laughing at both our jokes 😊or you're making fun of his name😡?
@David Rosales Oh, it's just you wrote his name with a laugh emoji with little to no explanation afterwards😯. Sorry for misinterpreting what you were laughing at. Besides Sonic X is so overrated that I'm making a reboot to show how i thought that show was going to be.
A FEEEEAMILY PICT-
Oh, oh my god, UGH, oh god... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bring the kiddies!
Whenever people talk about Tim Burton they never mention The Corpse Bride which makes me sad. The Corpse Bride is my FAVORITE Tim Burton movie.
Well if it makes you feel better I also love The Corpse Bride :)
I love Corpse Bride too it's so underrated but Sleepy Hollow is my all time favorite Tim Burton film. Followed by The Nightmare Before Christmas and Beetlejuice.
Fellow Corpse Bride fan here. That is peak Burton-style stop-motion!
The ending really hit home for me. Proper strong message, Truely inspirational and heartwarming to see Critics love for a series of movies that shapped him into who he is now
Tamara's British accent is giving me life! She's such an underrated part of NC's cast.
Definitely one of Tamara's best characters, perfectly charming and sweet but also one jump cut away from a bloody splattershow~
Carrotjuice too, for that matter, but I dun't think he can be in anything else, can he?
Plus, an added bonus that she can do a pretty damn good british accent~
Nickel The Wise the alice she plays is from the game alice madness returns and that alice is actually cold mostly due to her past like the one in the film but she's brutal even after she said that she doesn't want to kill when she first got the vorpal blade. I love her!!!
Nickel The Wise We’ll see in the next review.
The Jabberwocky was one of my absolute favorite stories as a little kid. As a result, the Jibber-Jabber joke is one of my favorite parts of this whole review. I also can't imagine The Cheshire Cat would even bring up the rebellion in conversation unless directly prompted to answer questions about it. It's more likely he would have no interest in the topic whatsoever.
"you can make it dark and intense" point in case American Mcgee's Alice
Malice might be my favorite Tamara character
Atiqah Diyana for a while I didn't know it was actually Tamera. Either that says something about my awful observation skills or something about the makeup and costume.
+Ectobiolagist maybe both
Atiqah Diyana same
Well, she's my least favorite for one reason. Bitch killed Danny Elfman! We were gonna sing Dead Man's Party later!
Wait is the caterpillar Professor Snape
yes
Tomasz Losinski
You're a hypocritical dullard.
Suicide Cyborg RIP Alan Rickman...
benito franco Damn u for making me sad 😥😥😥😥😥
it's actually Hans Gruber
Doug's shrine to Tim from his childhood is kind of adorable
Personally I wouldn’t be too hard on the movie for calling it under land, because the original title of Alice in Wonderland was Alice and her adventures underground. Calling it under land is actually pretty appropriate, when you consider that.
"That sounds like a made up world for a Fruit of the Loom commercial!"
Me: *desperately hugs my Suzanne Collins collection*
"It's okay dears, he didn't mean it."
YES!!! Yes, yes, yes, yes, Yes! Thank you. I honestly didn't expect anyone to say something like that. Not sure why I was so pleased with it except that I don't think that series gets nearly enough attention. I love that whole series.
Okay, so how about making Alice a complete product of her times, then having to accept things out of the norm in order to deal with this new world, starting to think differently and accepting imagination. She would start to believe in the prophecy only to find out she really is not the "Alice" the others were talking about, but still deciding to help and in the end, winning the battle?
I'm not saying it would make things better, but at least there would be an attempt to subvert the clichés...
Yeah... ya know... like the original version? :P I mean, Alice was totally a product of her time in the book - a victorian child who only really got 'crazy' as the story went on.
I dunno. Alice didn't strike me as a typical Victorian kid in the original either to be honest.
that would be nice
4:55 this turned from Alice in wonderland to Alice maddnes returns really quick...
underland huh? So this is set in Australia?
Giant monsters that seems about right!
As an australian i can confirm
No, even though Alice is played by an Australian.
69th liker
I assume that it means this was some sort of underworld but the film doesn't seem to care
The ?????? Language at 12:39 is Johnny depp
I think it's a combination of a Russian, French, and Indian accent
I think it's the krato's language: make random noises while sounding like your angry.
If only he did a Tommy Wiseau accent
Sounded like Klingon.
@@otherhand I know right!
I really wish that the twist was that she WASN'T the first Alice and that she's, like, her granddaughter or something.
That would have been actually surprising. If the twist was that she WASN'T The Alice.
I hate that every time Johnny Depp is in something, it becomes the "Johnny Depp Show." He gets really irritating after awhile and I'm sorry but I find him overrated. Honestly so is Helena Bonham Carter. Nostalgia Critic is right. They do play the same characters over and over and usually the characters come with huge slices of ham.
When it's Tim Burton, it becomes the "Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter and Tim Burton Show." They might as well have called it "Tim Burton's Johnny Depp's The Mad Hatter and Helena Bonham Carter's The Red Queen with guest appearance by Mia Wasikowska as Alice."
It's how I feel about the book After Alice by Gregory Maguire. There isn't enough magic, enough illogic, enough madness, enough Alice.
Though the working title of the original book was Alice's Adventures Underground.
Still, thank God Johnny Depp and Tim Burton did a fucking awesome job on the movie "Ed Wood". XD
I'm in that weird place between "Tim Burton is one of the greatest of all time" and "Tim Burton is so overrated that I kinda hate him".
He has made some of the best movies I've ever seen (Batman), but also some of the most annoying, made even worse by the fact that I'm automatically expected to adore it as much as everyone else does (Nightmare Before Christmas).
@@officialclownbusiness7788 you hate a nightmare before Christmas? I know it's a bit over-rated but it's still a great movie
@@mariobeaupre1626 I personally have a hard time enjoying since it has been overhyped so much. Everyone expects me to love it so much but I just can’t cause I just don’t personally enjoy it.
@@PmpknHead maybe for you, but I don't care, if I love a movie, the hype won't make me change that
As a long time fan of Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, who actually knows the difference between the Red Queen and the Queen of Hearts and that the monster is called the Jabberwock while the poem is called Jabberwocky, this film really hurt to see, especially since I was so excited to see it when it was first announced. :(
I can excuse merging the Queen of Hearts and Red Queen in adaptations that blend both books' worlds (which is almost every one of them), and the Jabberwock(y) distinction was negligible. That said, I couldn't help but be disappointed in this movie, though my only real gripe was with the derivative plot.
I thought Alice Through the Looking Glass was much better. Sure, time travel is another big cliche, but at least the film had a little more fun with its premise, and the nods and easter eggs were delightful. I love that they put a spotlight on Time, a character who's only briefly mentioned in the books and doesn't get much more attention in adaptations.
I remember when this movie came out I didn't see the original and my parents had me see the new one. I was 7 at the time, and don't remember much of the movie other than the fact it scared the living shit our of me. xD
The thing that really annoyed me was the end. She goes back to the real world and acts like the lesson she learned was "make your own destiny", but she learned just the opposite in "Underland", "shut up and do what destiny tells you to do."
That song was fucking savage.
Dylan L I agree
Especially the chorus that only sings in vowels.
And accurate
The whole "Is this the right Alice?" subplot was handled really stupidly. We see Alice talking about Wonderland when she's a little girl, so we *know* she's the same Alice who was there before. Her insisting she's not the right Alice and believing she's in a dream is just a big waste of time while we wait for her to finally remember.
I freaking love Mad Hatters look in this film.
Me too! And the makeup was amazing!
Ok
He looks more like Captain Jack Sparrow if he took meth.
too bad His actor sucks
I agree
Next stop: Tim Burton's Dumbo! 😑
Can't wait to see how that turns out fingers crossed
I'm gonna need an adult diaper for the Pink Elephant scene
I just have one question for all the current Disney live action remakes: why do all the male leads have to come back from a war? I mean think about it, Gaston did it and it was mentioned that the owner of the circus came back from a war too in the movie
Starman Gaming who the fuck knows how that scene turned out
Knowing Tim burton it will be fucking bat shit bonkers conkers pretty much not of this world insane
Yes that's gonna be the pink elephant scene
Also as a kid I never was scared of the pink elephant scene
It wasn’t that bad cmon
They probably thought they were so clever using the Lewis Carol poem the jabberwock as their plot
"Maid cafe at the Adam's Family"?!!!!! I never knew I wanted something so much!
25:09 idk about you but Malice hiding in her hair is just strangely adorable
"I think this calls for a good bleeding, that solves everything in this time period" Critic was ahead of the curve of medieval doctor memes
Dude, but let me say this, the dresses(and armor) she wears in this movie are absolutely gorgeus, I love them so much!
THAT DRESS!!!!!
One more thing, (29:48) is no one going to acknowledge the 3 Massive scares on her arm?
24:01 - 24:54 That was basically me when I first saw this movie. It drove me nuts that Tim Burton, one of the few directors that I like, can't even get his own movie title right.
This alone shows how much Tim has fallen from his film career. His first movies, like "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and "Edward Scissorhands" were good, but since he kept using the same stuff over and over for his other movies, such as gloomy atmospheres, dark tones, the same composer and the same two actors, it gets boring really fast! When this movie came along, it seemed to me that he was done. He's out of ideas. Also, this is more like a spin-off movie than a sequel or whatever Tim called it. Like an alternate dimension from the classic cartoon. If Disney is planning to remake Alice in Wonderland as live-action, don't EVEN think about screwing it up like what Tim did!
One more thing: I hope that Dumbo turns out good, otherwise Tim will prove me right like he did with this movie!
What did you think of Dumbo?
@@ForrestFox626 Honestly, it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Don't get me wrong, it was still bad, but at least it's not a complete rip-off like the Little Mermaid and actually made some changes to the story and took some risks.
Wait, you're a celebrity? I thought that you were just a random guy, in his office, yelling at anything that moved.
Hell if you can be a celebrity for doing.........Whatever the hell Kim Kardasian does
Ben Pesh no that’s his over the top fans
_HA HA!_ *So funny!*
Ben Pesh
Same and Same.
Like AVGN
i just realized this movie has the exact same plot as skyrim, a political power struggle between two sides (stormcloacks vs imperials, red queen vs white queen), a chosen hero(dragonborn, alice), that is prophetized somewhere(alduins wall,that magical calendar) that the hero is destined to defeat a great evil that plagues the land(alduin, jabberwocky), ultimately fullfilling its destiny, defeating the monster and saving the land.
Or perhaps this movie's plot is so generic and uses every fantasy storyteling trope
Generic
Dovahkiin dovahkiin! Lol
I love skyrim agghh
I like how they're ashamed to be called Wonderland, but they make the Mad Hatter break dance.
And Critic does the creepy Frollo smile at 26:23
I continue to use “Paper clip on a rice cake” to this day
Malice? Sounds like something Maleficent would name her daughter.
I thought so too! But they called her daughter in Descendants Mal. Could be short version of it though.
Or mal
Bronson Ferrigno you know a names good when it was a collosis
Yeah, but...Descendants is awful.
i dunno, there are some interesting things you can do with glue.
complaining about the metaphor not defending the characters.
+jordan cowie, I dunno, I think malice knows a few interesting things that can be done with those characters...
Анатолий Шпалин hmm,
like masturbating with it. then when done,picking out the dried glue. two rights making a right
2 rights mean you go backwords.
26:45 - "Your destroying the Wizard of Oz! You don't need to do that! Sam Raimi already did that!"
Am I the only one who'd like to see the Critic review "Oz the Great and Powerful"?
Never knew how much I needed a British Tamara in my life
Who else is waiting for them to review Burton's Through the Looking Glass?
Burton didn't direct Through the Looking Glass
Burton didn't direct Through the Looking Glass
He didn't? But it looked like the same actor's and everything....(just goes to show how much I know....)
He didn't directed it, but he produced it, so...it can explain some things.
I don't think they saw it
This is one of my favourite Nostalgia Critics :D
The Theorizer I didn't know you watch Nostalgia Critic!
Theres more than one?
Hello good Sir
There is only one Nostalgia Critic...
wait
you watch nostalgic critic?
I remember watching this shortly after it came out...I also remember being thoroughly disappointed and annoyed once I realized the movie was basically just a rip-off of "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe".
It didn't help either that I had been spoiled by American McGee who's adaptation was both darker AND more faithful to the source material (on top of being more inspired).
Okay I won't lie but, I love when Depp as hatter when he does a Scottish accent. It's honestly pretty cool
I think the only logical reason for Alice's blandness and Wonderland's growing sense of order is because, while she still is a bit ahead of the times, Alice has grown up. She would, at least, have a bit of grounding in reality when dreaming up an imaginary world, maybe to the point that it invades into the real world. As a result, Wonderland has become an inconsistent mix of dreamlike madness and human reason that only grows slowly, like a king that only recently started learning how to properly rule his kingdom. Alice's curious imagination was becoming more dull with her growing sense of realism. Think about it. Even if they don't align with our own, insanity follows rules too.
As much as I like this explanation, you _know_ that when this film was being written, this wasn't in mind.
Good point.
I support this opinion and I have always viewed this movie as her having to figure out has she can function on the world with her own sense of insanity.
But what insanity? They don't actually establish any insanity; all they tell us is she had a dream as a kid, and even that dream might actually have been her actual visit to the actual Wonderland, which would mean she has no madness at all, she's just the millionth Jane Austen knock-off character who, for no reason, spent a day in an alternate universe. If they showed her as a wild, precocious, manic pixie dream child, then maybe this would make sense.
I do agree with your argument. However it’s not just that she is an adult. It’s that she is not actually insane. A good example of a well written adult Alice is Alice madness returns. She is more grown up and independent but still very much insane and Mad. This works as her delusions are just that. Delusions. Hey make no sense and have no grounded sense or laws where this movies wonderland does. You can make Alice an adult you just have to balance it out in a sense. But you made a very good point
This movie isn't hard to figure out: Slap Victorian London, Johnny depp, dark/gritty fantasy atmosphere and backdrop, pretentious as fuck-i-ness, and gothic overtone on ANYTHING, and it will sell, no matter how bad any of the elements are. It's like attracting flies to a shit pile (a pretty apt comparison); tween girls flock to this shit in droves for some fucking reason, and it's GUARANTEED to succeed.
It's like, they try to pretend like they're being profound, edgy, and angsty by bandwagoning the latest thing that overuses these tropes, but they're not fooling anybody. You're not special, your not deep or complicated, and there's plenty of people who understand you perfectly well, seeing as how scores of people think that exact same way. Stop trying so hard to stand out and just accept that you're just like everyone else.
Savage.
Hit the nail on the head, though there are guys who would fit your description too.
Digital Napoleon Fair enough
Jey Tee Looking back at my post I hope I didn't give the wrong impression. I meant that I've met guys who think/act like the fangirls you described in your post. Hope you didn't think I was talking about you.
Digital Napoleon Nah; it's all good ^-^
I was agreeing
This move is one of my guilty pleasures. I know it isn't great but I just have a fondness for it and I cannot put my finger on why.
Idk, I like gothic fantasy. The designs and camerawork is great. Which is the reson I like it.
For my money, the Disney production of "Alice in Wonderland" that aired on CBS in December 1985 is still the reigning champion of weirdness. One of the most distant memories I have is watching Alice chase the White Rabbit down the rabbit hole while thunder and lightning crash through the darkness. I would have been three and half years old when it aired. I also remember that Mr. Miyagi was a horse for some reason. Might be worth a look for the nostalgia critic.
She is so disinterested, it's almost amazing and looks like Tim Burton was also directing just like she is acting, say this and now do this. okay, done.
She looked so uninvolved I felt that through the screen and fell asleep at some point in the cinema and my friends had to wake me up. I know shooting can be exhausting and all, but that’s just no.
Well the accent switching could be seen as madness
It's a very lame madness then
ilopominecrafter This isn't madness. THIS. IS. SPARTA!
mach6247
It's a very lame film.
That Bad Screenwriter 101 tip is a really good one (at 7:00), I have a habit of hunting down good narrative advice & I never heard that one.
Mind you I always hated learning from screenwriters, I found they spend more time talking about how awesome their jobs are & little about doing their jobs.
Personally, I appreciate how this isn’t a carbon copy of the original like the lion king
Doug summed it up perfectly when he said that you can't bring logic and revolution in Alice and Wnderland because to win all you need is to eat the stuff that makes you big and you can stomp all your enemies to death!
+Tad Dad the sword would be small and she'd stab him woth it easily.
Red Hood agaisnt a giant, actualy agile creature that could kill him from above with laser beam breath or, alternatively, just land on the bitch.
Tad Dad the sword would be a needle and the dragon would be an easily dodgeable yarn ball,do the math.
Red Hood if you so happen to have superhuman abilities and not wearing platmail.
this movie is bad because it's not Alice in Wonderland it's, grown up Alice in Harry potter/Lord of rings ... land
Mia was phenomenal in Jane Eyre and Stoker, she probably wasn't very impressed with the script and thought "Screw this."
It apparently was Burton’a directions to be internal and not emote. She auditioned five times for this role and then got stuck with a shite director.
@Lemon Grab You really underestimate how much power a director can have over a performance. Plus, there might have been better takes where she did show more emotion, but the director and/or editors picked the most bland takes for whatever reason.
27:57 _Is it me or does the Jabberwocky's severed head feel like the head of some plastic toy dragon?_
25:02 Damn that's low
CAREBEARS ARE MORE SOLID THAN FUCKING TIM BURTON!
Absolum's revealing of the truth was supposed to be Alice's revelation, not the audience's. But that doesn't excuse the flaws in the buildup.
The "did you steal my tarts" scene was pretty funny tho
Theitsybitsyspider Nice profile pic.
W
Theitsybitsyspider I think it would be torturing
I love those throwbacks to "American McGees Alice" video game!
1 thing I really hate about this movie is the Dormouse. I just hate...
1. how she's a mouse when dormice are apart of the Gliridae Family.
2. how she's an energetic, bad-ass when it sleeps all the time in the book (mainly because of the fact that they hibernate very long).
3. the way she acts when dormice got their name from the word "Dormeus" (which happens to be Greek for "Sleepy 1")!
And this movie is getting a sequel. Ugh...
+Mr. Game & Watch i must say the trailer dosent look that bad...atleast it will be awesome to look at :D i will watch it for sure
+Mr. Game & Watch IT GETS !?!?!?!? im crying. No seriously, I have tears in my eyes :'(
+Mr. Game & Watch
Oh no... This calls for the emergency button!!!!!
nooooooooooooooo.com/
+Mr. Game & Watch it made over a billion at the box office
dont blame the studio
+MCVivi Underland*
In all truth. bith America's McGee Alice and Alice Madness Returns did a much better job at telling a Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland story... and those sold poorly.
sold poorly?
Yeah, they're a pair of videogames. I watched a playthrough, and they really hit that kind of surreal horror that you get in some interpretations really well. Pity they weren't especially well liked, I think there were gameplay issues or something - it's been a while, can't quite remember.
I wonder how Jervis Tetch would react to those games...
Yep
@@GatlingGun12 I played both and the game play can't be an issue. It played very well.
"Next you'll be telling me that Clark Kent all this time was........ Clark Kent!" This actually made me laugh out loud.
I can honestly see someone building an actual Tim Burton theme park actually. Not just for fall but for all year round.