Polymaker are really great guys. Very good material science too. If you happen to be tearing your hair out trying to print TPU I advise picking up a few kg of their TPU95-HF. I did a 60 minute benchy (.6 nozzle .3 layer) using a PLA preset on a bowden Tronxy system with probably 20 inches of bowden and it did it first try.
@@schizophrenicgaming365 that sounds really great. I bought several spools of their PolyTerra and I’m very happy how it printed… I really wanna use it more
@@schizophrenicgaming365 Yes, TPU95-HF is amazing. I did a 14m:45s Benchy using it. That was with a 0.4mm CHT nozzle, and the Speedboatrace rules (0.25mm layers, 2 perims, 10% infill, etc.).
awesome stuff, I want to see someone maybe doing this on fabric to create something like a arm patch or a unique back logo using coloured tpu or some other flexible filament
They Polymaker deal is what got me to try it out. I mean I'm already buying their filament why not get another cool tool to add to my 3d printing library.
The creator needs to change the licensing terms on the upper tiers which allow you to sell your pieces, but require a "vendor certificate". As someone else stated on his channel (ygk3d): "it's the equivalent of a paint brush company dictating the terms under which you can sell a work of art that you created using their brush." I'll stick to the personal license until that's changed because it's exploitative and ridiculous.
Wholeheartedly agree! I think those are ridiculous terms. Once I make something from the software, who are they to tell you how to sell it or not! I can't sell my own original art unless I pay the higher tier because I formatted it with their software??? I understand there are other apps out there that have those blocks. I think it's absurd.
That’s absolutely disgusting….didn’t Adobe try that as well, and put in their terms and conditions that they had the right to help themselves to anything you created with their software? People need to vote with their feet and boycott such companies…greedy vultures…tell them to sling their hook!
The lifetime license is a bit of a sales trick. Yes, you get to use it for the life of your choosing; however, you lose access to all updates and upgrades after year 2. Not saying you shouldn't choose it but you should be aware at the least. Pretty cool software! (Edit for spelling)
@@NerdyCraftsmith It's just modern reality. I wouldn't knock them for wanting to run a business. I just think different people have different ideas of 'lifetime' so people should be aware of the terms.
@@venados65 Very likely! But I'm not sure how that matters to the point that calling it 'lifetime' isn't exactly what it sounds like. Again though, I support these guys and what they are producing. I wish them well! I agree it's a bit of a no-brainer with the Polymaker offer.
Not a trick. Its how commercial software was commonly sold before everything became subscription only and always online. (Ie Adobe, Autodesk) Your license to use the complete software (+ two years of updates) is perpetual.
Got it and tried it and it’s more complicated than you would think and has one issue that for me is a big problem. I tried to upload a photo I had and it would not load and found out it was something to do with it having a background so had to remove that before it would load so it’s not even able to accept many images so from that point of view it was a waste of money as I cannot even try the pictures I want to try.
@@3DPrintingNerd never occurred to me. Did a google search and it appears to be a common issue. Came across a link to a program that removed the background but doing this allowed me to to upload it but part was missing. It’s early days but tried several jpegs and none worked
Nice Time Tunnel-like (a 1960s Urwin Allen TV show) time travel sequence! When I was a kid, it was open being show as a re-run, so some of my earliest memories are watching that show. I manually used a transmission distance effect for my Great Benchy Wave (a 3DBenchy display stand based on Hokusai's The Great Wave off Kanagawa). I adjusted the thickness of the natural PLA layer so it formed different shades from blue to white. It took a lot of CAD work, and wasn't designed for manual filament swaps (I used IDEX). I wanted to try ironing with a different color to get a more subtle effect, but I couldn't find a way to get Super Slicer to iron in a different tool from the layer (S3D 5.1 now supports ironing, but doesn't allow this either, nor does Orca Slicer). I didn't feel like manually editing the G-Code either. HueForge makes this kind of thing much easier, although it is limited by the one color per layer restriction. While that's useful for manual filament changing sanity, for MMU-type printers it's not ideal. Maybe we'll see support for this in later versions (it's been discussed on some of the various streams). p.s. Hope to see you at Open Sauce this weekend, Joel.
Surely it should be possible to extrude 5 filaments (RGBWB) and be able to mix and print with a computer's help. The filaments would presumably have to be incredibly thin before they could be mixed/woven... It's only a step away from ink printers doing the same thing for decades, it's just a case of getting the individual elements to mix in the correct percentages. Unless I'm totally mistaken, that is. Failing that, It IS possible to print 'high definition', full colour images a different way, with the same five filaments, you've just gottathink like a cathode ray tv. Each 'pixel' on the screen was comprised of a bunch of blocks, which when mixed between the five colours, would give viewers the appearance of any desired hue. The top layer of a print should be the only layer with multiple pigments, but instead of laying a single layer at a time, it'd be one dot at a time. It'd take a while, but you would result in a photo-realistic print. I'm sure you know someone who could make this happen. DOT MATRIX 3D, dude!
3:37 is the time when you convinced me to subscribe, thank you good sir for your awesome work! (Sorry that I have only subscribed after many, many months)
I purchased HueForge software - Personal License and have received my Polymaker filament. I have not really used the software, as there are so many great designs that can be downloaded. Prusa - Printables has so many and I have printed about 10 on my Bambu X1 with AMS. I have experimented with different color combinations and have some interesting results
How did that tiny thing take you 8 hours? I've been messing around with lithophanes on my bambulabs p1p at .16mm layer height with amazing detail quality that are 220mm x 220mm x 4mm in less than 5 hours in just standard speed mode
Love the throwback to #Vaderfun and #VaderSpotting -- we've known each other forever! I am always doing manual colour swaps, so this is no biggie for me. I love how HueForge has made people excited about some aspects of 3D printing again! Endless possibilities!
I was interested in this when I first saw it, but didn't want to pay for it, as I don't have a real use case in mind for it. But, if Polymaker is pretty much buying it for me, I'm in. Polymaker makes great filament, at a good price, so I'll use the code that I get for sure. Thanks, Polymaker!
@@3DPrintingNerd Guess what I stumpled upon today ? A video about colour changing resin prints (ruclips.net/video/p8w5p3SohpA/видео.html) So it should be possible.
That's so cool, I just got an ender 3 s1 pro and am excited to see the things I can print, but this is something I definitely have to try in the future.😎👍
Joel ‘Me Ol' Mucker!’ (Don’t worry it’s not an insult) Just a quick question about hueforge. I take it you have read the license agreement to the software? How do you feel about the guy who made it saying he owns the output (the stl file) file you created using his software? Also he says you have to mention that you used their software and display a ‘hueforge’ certificate when selling the items!
18 bucks now for personal and 45 for limited commercial sell prints not files and no more polymaker deal. But still worth it I believe I have to manual swap as well I'm Ol school though lol. Like you I was doing this several years ago on my own as well. I started 3d printing back in 2014 even did videos for a short bit back then I think only chep was also making videos. I know you came on the seen around then as well. But I stated a 3d printing business and stop having time to make help videos I don't much like being on camera anyway lol. But definitely some pretty stuff in the 3d printing world.
Just one question: How far is it still until we have opensource Printers? I mean actual Printers for paper All with the benefits of upgrading or changing whatever you want, fiddling around with the firmware and use whatever cheapo Ink you want in it, without a multi million dollar company dictating you to buy their overpriced cartridges that last 5 pages until they dry out. Next time my printer refuses to print a black and white document because magenta is low, I throw that piece of sh.. out the window and hand over my CV to my new boss in glorious PLA
There's not much demand for that. You can get printers so cheap. They can also be a lot more complicated than they look. Maybe an open source controller board and firmware would be a realistic mod. That would be a good project for a engineering grad student.
The first and sometimes only safety rule in a 3D Printers included documentation, "Never leave the 3D printer unattended!", It sounds almost as an important of warning as AirSoft guns warning against aiming the weapons at living beings. 3D printers can burn down houses, best to store safely out of harms way next to all your bottles of film developing chemicals, oily rags and gasoline for the lawn mowers....The safest method of handling long print jobs on your own is treating that print job like the midterm thats tomorrow and you havent for....jk print in firesafe location leave plenty of clearence and don't forget to put away any flammable chems used ..🤸🕳️👻
If what you're talking about is the painting function, it's a little different. Luban 3D represents each color by leaving a different color at the end of the layer height, while HueForge represents more colors and gradations through overlapping colors. Although not shown in this video, it also supports color lithophane generation.
“Why would you need this wire?!” Hahaha
That is indeed very amazing that Polymaker supports the community like that. Beautiful work from Hueforge
Polymaker are really great guys. Very good material science too. If you happen to be tearing your hair out trying to print TPU I advise picking up a few kg of their TPU95-HF. I did a 60 minute benchy (.6 nozzle .3 layer) using a PLA preset on a bowden Tronxy system with probably 20 inches of bowden and it did it first try.
@@schizophrenicgaming365 that sounds really great. I bought several spools of their PolyTerra and I’m very happy how it printed… I really wanna use it more
@@schizophrenicgaming365 Yes, TPU95-HF is amazing. I did a 14m:45s Benchy using it. That was with a 0.4mm CHT nozzle, and the Speedboatrace rules (0.25mm layers, 2 perims, 10% infill, etc.).
Glad to see this covered! We previously did similar manual slicer editing in Blender so we've been liking HueForge thus far!
Still use and love S3D! Purchased the $175 version of HF and the Polymaker gift was insanely generous of them 🤘🤘
awesome stuff, I want to see someone maybe doing this on fabric to create something like a arm patch or a unique back logo using coloured tpu or some other flexible filament
I have seen TPU printed on shirts, so can be done.
Mosaic is starting this I think?
Im doing this for airsoft patches
They Polymaker deal is what got me to try it out. I mean I'm already buying their filament why not get another cool tool to add to my 3d printing library.
BOOM!
The creator needs to change the licensing terms on the upper tiers which allow you to sell your pieces, but require a "vendor certificate". As someone else stated on his channel (ygk3d): "it's the equivalent of a paint brush company dictating the terms under which you can sell a work of art that you created using their brush." I'll stick to the personal license until that's changed because it's exploitative and ridiculous.
Exactly!
What if you sell pieces anyways and if you ever got called out you inform them that you didn’t use their software.
Wholeheartedly agree! I think those are ridiculous terms. Once I make something from the software, who are they to tell you how to sell it or not! I can't sell my own original art unless I pay the higher tier because I formatted it with their software??? I understand there are other apps out there that have those blocks. I think it's absurd.
That’s absolutely disgusting….didn’t Adobe try that as well, and put in their terms and conditions that they had the right to help themselves to anything you created with their software? People need to vote with their feet and boycott such companies…greedy vultures…tell them to sling their hook!
That is gross, shame on them
Thanks for sharing, just picked up a license for this to try it out. Looks fun.
I've been working with it and it's a lot of fun. I have 3 prints so far, trying to decide on one more before making my own video.
That is awesome!
wish polymaker would come to the uk, such a good deal for those in us/cad
I am surprised that I managed to do this before Joel did.
I found that illustrations from manga and light novels works incredibly well on HueForge
Wow! Polymaker deal with the license is insane good marketing, as an entrepreneur i applaud You Polymaker! Very Very Well done! :)
Fantastic mr fox
looks really good yhe only problem is polymaker don't ship to the uk
You didn't mention purge, how does it handle the filament color change when spool swapping?
can you raise the outlines? Kind of like making a stamp
I remember those prints. Ahh, the good old days... 😊
The lifetime license is a bit of a sales trick.
Yes, you get to use it for the life of your choosing; however, you lose access to all updates and upgrades after year 2.
Not saying you shouldn't choose it but you should be aware at the least.
Pretty cool software!
(Edit for spelling)
That's kinda crappy
The software should have paid itself by then and more if you can make good use of it. I think its awesome deal with that polymaker coupon.
@@NerdyCraftsmith It's just modern reality. I wouldn't knock them for wanting to run a business. I just think different people have different ideas of 'lifetime' so people should be aware of the terms.
@@venados65 Very likely! But I'm not sure how that matters to the point that calling it 'lifetime' isn't exactly what it sounds like.
Again though, I support these guys and what they are producing. I wish them well! I agree it's a bit of a no-brainer with the Polymaker offer.
Not a trick. Its how commercial software was commonly sold before everything became subscription only and always online. (Ie Adobe, Autodesk) Your license to use the complete software (+ two years of updates) is perpetual.
Would the Bambu labs X1C have done it faster?
Would be very cool to do this in glow in the dark filaments!
Do it!!
@@davidtobin I might! Just think that I would use the programme once and not much more. But who knows 😁
@@julienvanderree5376 That's part of the fun. Because once you do it, you may have no ideas that grow from there.
How much longer before we can hueforge full 3d models in full 3d?
Bambulab makes a kit for this!
Seeing treasure mountain again brought back memories 👍
Why couldn't you use the palette 3 pro?
Have you ever seen a 3D picture made from different color and size wood pieces? Can something like that be done so has more depth?
Bambulabs X1 Carbon with AMS has changed the industry!
Pretty neat stuff. Wow @Polymaker - way to support the community 💪💪
Not in the UK :(
MMU and AMS systems? Seen the Trad Rack in closed beta?
Got it and tried it and it’s more complicated than you would think and has one issue that for me is a big problem.
I tried to upload a photo I had and it would not load and found out it was something to do with it having a background so had to remove that before it would load so it’s not even able to accept many images so from that point of view it was a waste of money as I cannot even try the pictures I want to try.
Did you contact the developer? What did say?
@@3DPrintingNerd never occurred to me. Did a google search and it appears to be a common issue. Came across a link to a program that removed the background but doing this allowed me to to upload it but part was missing. It’s early days but tried several jpegs and none worked
hist time travel has made me complete.
Nice Time Tunnel-like (a 1960s Urwin Allen TV show) time travel sequence! When I was a kid, it was open being show as a re-run, so some of my earliest memories are watching that show.
I manually used a transmission distance effect for my Great Benchy Wave (a 3DBenchy display stand based on Hokusai's The Great Wave off Kanagawa). I adjusted the thickness of the natural PLA layer so it formed different shades from blue to white. It took a lot of CAD work, and wasn't designed for manual filament swaps (I used IDEX).
I wanted to try ironing with a different color to get a more subtle effect, but I couldn't find a way to get Super Slicer to iron in a different tool from the layer (S3D 5.1 now supports ironing, but doesn't allow this either, nor does Orca Slicer). I didn't feel like manually editing the G-Code either.
HueForge makes this kind of thing much easier, although it is limited by the one color per layer restriction. While that's useful for manual filament changing sanity, for MMU-type printers it's not ideal. Maybe we'll see support for this in later versions (it's been discussed on some of the various streams).
p.s. Hope to see you at Open Sauce this weekend, Joel.
Surely it should be possible to extrude 5 filaments (RGBWB) and be able to mix and print with a computer's help.
The filaments would presumably have to be incredibly thin before they could be mixed/woven...
It's only a step away from ink printers doing the same thing for decades, it's just a case of getting the individual elements to mix in the correct percentages.
Unless I'm totally mistaken, that is.
Failing that, It IS possible to print 'high definition', full colour images a different way, with the same five filaments, you've just gottathink like a cathode ray tv.
Each 'pixel' on the screen was comprised of a bunch of blocks, which when mixed between the five colours, would give viewers the appearance of any desired hue.
The top layer of a print should be the only layer with multiple pigments, but instead of laying a single layer at a time, it'd be one dot at a time.
It'd take a while, but you would result in a photo-realistic print.
I'm sure you know someone who could make this happen.
DOT MATRIX 3D, dude!
3:37 is the time when you convinced me to subscribe, thank you good sir for your awesome work! (Sorry that I have only subscribed after many, many months)
Speaking of Chamelion have you gotten one it print, has anybody other than the inventor? I wasn't able to.
Would that offer extend to Canada?
Yes, it's US and Canada.
I purchased HueForge software - Personal License and have received my Polymaker filament. I have not really used the software, as there are so many great designs that can be downloaded. Prusa - Printables has so many and I have printed about 10 on my Bambu X1 with AMS. I have experimented with different color combinations and have some interesting results
Also those pc and consoles could do more colors using a similar technique called dithering
Ah yes that’s right!
A big helper for reducing the time for print is to reduce the total height of the print. Hueforge allows you to do this in the bottom right window :)
Thanks for the shout out, made my day!
Any time!
-"Think of it as a ... front-lit lithophane!"
-"...😐sure sure sure😒"
😂
which photoshop and is it free?
I saw both Joel and HueForge at East Coast Rep Rap Festival 2023 and both are equally awesome!
I wonder which printer would print these better. I would like to see a comparison between a MK4 and an X1.
How did that tiny thing take you 8 hours? I've been messing around with lithophanes on my bambulabs p1p at .16mm layer height with amazing detail quality that are 220mm x 220mm x 4mm in less than 5 hours in just standard speed mode
They are even nicer at .08 but ya take longer
Ok now I see why this is so cool. Thanks for the video, great stuff!
WHAT!? Another reason to Love PolyMaker!
Right? SO COOL of them!
Love the throwback to #Vaderfun and #VaderSpotting -- we've known each other forever! I am always doing manual colour swaps, so this is no biggie for me. I love how HueForge has made people excited about some aspects of 3D printing again! Endless possibilities!
The Polymaker deal has already expired? Joe, do you know if they'll ever bring it back? I mean 2wks was a very short time!
All well and good regarding the Polymaker thing, but they don't ship to Europe.
I was interested in this when I first saw it, but didn't want to pay for it, as I don't have a real use case in mind for it. But, if Polymaker is pretty much buying it for me, I'm in. Polymaker makes great filament, at a good price, so I'll use the code that I get for sure. Thanks, Polymaker!
Could it be done with resin ?
Ooh, I don’t know!
@@3DPrintingNerd Guess what I stumpled upon today ? A video about colour changing resin prints (ruclips.net/video/p8w5p3SohpA/видео.html) So it should be possible.
How would I be able to do this in cura.
Got to admit I would love to see a timelapse of one being printed on a Prusa with a MMU2 to automatically do the filament changes.
That's so cool, I just got an ender 3 s1 pro and am excited to see the things I can print, but this is something I definitely have to try in the future.😎👍
I'll definitely get it once the Mac version is available
Thanks for another great video Joel! Be sure to take some vitamin C. Time travel can take a lot out of people. High-5!
Thank you for the video. I will purchase the software to print my stepfather's badge since he died on the line of duty.
5months later is the Polymaker deal still going on?
Wait i have to pay them to sell prints I made with my images using the assistance of their software?
It's cool, but not 5+ hours of printing cool. I prefer the colored back-lit lithophanes for the wow factor and they print way faster
Joel ‘Me Ol' Mucker!’ (Don’t worry it’s not an insult)
Just a quick question about hueforge. I take it you have read the license agreement to the software?
How do you feel about the guy who made it saying he owns the output (the stl file) file you created using his software?
Also he says you have to mention that you used their software and display a ‘hueforge’ certificate when selling the items!
How about an in depth tutorial on how to use HueForge. I havent seen any good ones on youtube yet.
Yay, a Fanastic Mr. Fox reference!
Glad you saw it!
I wondered hiw long it would take Joel to find Hue Forge! Hehe. Laurie NZ.
You can fo color lithos with HueForge
similar to the Bambu ones? ruclips.net/video/s7orBhLydgI/видео.html
Sad that this software is not open.
He might allow you to commit some changes if you were up for helping with bugs and new features. Did you have ideas you wanted to implement?
you have convinced me :P i bought it
Lost in tech is the best!
@11:13 Horn & Rhode is the creator of HueForge
Wht a coincidense, I bought a copy yesterday :D
See you at open sauce!! I need you to sign my 3d printer lol!
I WILL SIGN YOUR PRINTER
watch in 2x speed
Shout out to the legend that uploaded the torrent of this.
Thank you for your video understandable for this 61 year old beginner!
You're very welcome!
18 bucks now for personal and 45 for limited commercial sell prints not files and no more polymaker deal. But still worth it I believe I have to manual swap as well I'm Ol school though lol. Like you I was doing this several years ago on my own as well. I started 3d printing back in 2014 even did videos for a short bit back then I think only chep was also making videos. I know you came on the seen around then as well. But I stated a 3d printing business and stop having time to make help videos I don't much like being on camera anyway lol. But definitely some pretty stuff in the 3d printing world.
Time travel wooooooooooo
Is the polymaker coupon legit?
Yep
You had Pirate Steve AND Hey Hey together!?
waiting on MacOS native version
I note the macOS version is now available, loving it !
Well went ahead and did the $175 dollar professional commercial license because well, because it’s pretty much free with the poly maker deal!
BOOM!
Just one question: How far is it still until we have opensource Printers? I mean actual Printers for paper
All with the benefits of upgrading or changing whatever you want, fiddling around with the firmware and use whatever cheapo Ink you want in it, without a multi million dollar company dictating you to buy their overpriced cartridges that last 5 pages until they dry out.
Next time my printer refuses to print a black and white document because magenta is low, I throw that piece of sh.. out the window and hand over my CV to my new boss in glorious PLA
There's not much demand for that. You can get printers so cheap. They can also be a lot more complicated than they look.
Maybe an open source controller board and firmware would be a realistic mod. That would be a good project for a engineering grad student.
Hay, I had a Robo R1
dope
Polymaker Filament Coupon is US and Canada only 😢
Woo! Go pickle! 🥒
Thanks for the vid
Any time!
Of course not just Prusa Slicer, Cura can do these swaps too.
Time travel get's all the likes.
Chris Who?!
VADERFUN!
I feel like I really went back in time.
😂😂
groovy
Maybe the guy that invented Hueforge should explain it. :)
The first and sometimes only safety rule in a 3D Printers included documentation, "Never leave the 3D printer unattended!", It sounds almost as an important of warning as AirSoft guns warning against aiming the weapons at living beings. 3D printers can burn down houses, best to store safely out of harms way next to all your bottles of film developing chemicals, oily rags and gasoline for the lawn mowers....The safest method of handling long print jobs on your own is treating that print job like the midterm thats tomorrow and you havent for....jk print in firesafe location leave plenty of clearence and don't forget to put away any flammable chems used ..🤸🕳️👻
Your'e assigning colors to luminance values in the image, not colors specifically :)
Crap you’re right!!
Luban 3D have this feature since a year or so
If what you're talking about is the painting function, it's a little different. Luban 3D represents each color by leaving a different color at the end of the layer height, while HueForge represents more colors and gradations through overlapping colors. Although not shown in this video, it also supports color lithophane generation.
So it's basically free even though it costs money. I mean I was going to spend that money on filament anyways.
Hueforge is really cool, it's too bad the licensing scheme is atrocious.
using ams doesn't really save you any time. in fact using ams adds hours onto mulicolour printing.
💕👌👍
why not do a oversized painting with youre actor friend as he loves his art gallery ;)