I honestly believe this was the purpose of bringing back Chris Evans as Johnny Storm; to highlight the fact that multiverse doppelgangers can be entirely different people. It was such a great scene in D&W that shocked the audience. I think we'll easily reconcile the casting once we see his performance.
I mean, yes offcourse they did it because of that(Feige would have never allowed it if it wasn’t intentional), but then no there is nothing to reconcile with since whe have beeing confronted with this fact for years, the multiverse saga just made it cannon.. think about it; Hannibal King/Deadpool Johnny Storm/Captain america Johnny storm/Eric Killmonger Moreau/heimdall cottonmouth/blade Black Maria/mother of Sokovia victim Bolivar Trask/Etri the dwarf Sue Storm/US.Marshall in iron man 2 Quicksilver/Kraven the Hunter Zeus/father of kraven the hunter Theoretically even ghost rider/Spider-man Noir, since whe don’t know if he looks like Nicolas Cage under the mask 😂 who knows, even spider-man 2099/moon knight. Tons of examples.. so I understand people are more connected with RDJ, but it’s nothing new.
Deadpool and wolverine showed us marvel can cast the same person in different roles, having Chris Evans come back as the human torch just shows the unlimited possibilities of the multiverse
Right… until both characters are side by side each other. Then it’s just complete mess. Imagine if Chris Evan’s captain America and human torch was on the same scene without masks. Yeah think about that real quick.
I love the idea that Dr. doom is from the fantastic four universe, and escapes into the 616 just to find out that a man named Tony Stark, who happens to look exactly like him is widely, considered the savior of the universe. Dr. doom then slips into the persona of Tony Stark, and uses it to his advantage
How?! If you LISTEN to the RUSSO BROS at HALL H where they talk about the ******** CHARACTER ******** of Victor Von Doom, how could ANYONE jump to the conclusion that this is just Tony Stark gone bad?
They needed people to talk positively about them right now. I don't think a reshot captain America and the other films would've been enough to convince audiences they're changing. People I bet, before this, thought Deadpool was just gonna be a 1 off good movie bookended by disappointment. I do think it definitely would've blown people's mind and got them to that movie. But I think most marvel fans would've watched Fantastic 4 regardless. (I hope its good, definitely should be different from previous version)
I miss the days before social media, especially when it comes to movies. There are spoilers everywhere now. Hell, I basically saw 1/2 of Godzilla X Kong on RUclips before it was released. Most likely wouldn’t have happened for me back then. There was something magical about being legitimately surprised when a character thought to be dead, make an appearance in a sequel. Or the surprise you had when you finally saw a trailer of a sequel on the tv, not hearing about it online. Oh the good ol days.
I'd love to check out ALL FIRES, but I'll be nowhere near Atlanta ON 9/1 :( I really hope you're right amd RDJ is simply Victor Von Doom, and not some kind of multi-verse variant.
AllFires ATL. I can't wait to see how this storyline plays out. I'm sure there are going to be some Multiverse hijinks involved. Avengers Doomsday can't come soon enough.
Yep 😊👍 especially if it really is also setting up to soft reboot the MCU as a whole and give us a fully complete Marvel Universe with *every* character home in it by then, huh?
Dude I'm just happy that RDJ is back! None better IMHO! Feige knows what he's doing let's let him run with it. Keep up the amazing work and as always please stay safe. Excelsior! Heff
@@chrisszostek6700 Even if Majors had no legal troubles and was still the king of Hollywood, even if QUANTUMANIA did $2B and Disney+ subscriptions were skyhigh and all the Marvel films smash hits, AVENGERS 5 would still end with Doom having Wanda wipe out all the Kangs and TVA. It was always going to pivot to Doom.
To be totally honest, I don't see any reason why they brought RDJ back unless he was playing a Stark variant that becomes Doom. Also, I would take anything the Marvel folks say with a grain of salt....they have shielded us from the truth many times
My trust in Disney/MCU has not returned. Deadpool 3 rocked, sure. A movie that was viciously protected by its stars. That actively pushed woke to the side in favor of nearly 30 minutes of gay jokes no one seems upset about, well played Reynolds. Not many men can just do that, and you did it on Disney's dime. RDJ rocks, always has imho. I don't know about this casting. I'm hoping they don't pull the mask off until the very end. They ask RDJ to be the actor he is. Play another character. Tony Stark had a lot of RDJ in his portrail. Von Doom should not be that at all. Full actor psycho mode time. RDJ should talk to Williem Dafoe if he needs tips. Also, we need a good voice effect for Doom. I'd start out on no ties, never show RDJ's face, never use his unmodified voice, full CGI the character with only his eyes shown at all, his MOCAP. RDJ is a good enough actor to do another MCU gear. I'm all for it as long as we aren't making Doctor fucking Doom crack Iron Man movie jokes.
I dunno why people try to complicate it that much… It’s just really that simple he’s a stark variant that has a lifestyle similar to doom or similar backstory that grew up to be victor von doom.. Screencrush perfectly explained this on how that could be the case.
@@jmandan8728 They can really do him justice. Like maybe his name would be like victor "Anthony" Von Doom or smth like that. Show he was born into a poor family. Moved to latvaria with his mother. Didnt have the privilage. Climbed his own way up the ladder. His struggle made him who he is. Like there is so many way they can make him original dr doom. Like in what if we have seen tchala becoming star lord right, I dont know why people make it such a big deal. And for Pedro Pascals reed, Downeys Doom is perfect. Their energy goes well. We have already seen Downey play a jealous guy type in Oppeheimer. And its a proving point for Downey too. For years critiques have been saying that playing Stark is easy for Downey. He is just playing himself. Now Downey gets to detach himself from Tony and shows us how range he has got
@@Epiccomicgamer Well, you're in luck. Because from what I heard from Cosmic Marvel this Doom will kill off the whole council of Kangs to take place as the main antagonist for "The Multiverse Saga" by then when he does there
And even do him justice than the 2000s Tim Storyy directed or 2015 Josh Trank (due to studio interference from Fox) Fantastic Four movies did before then
Just can't wrap my head around RDJ as Von Doom. Not only will they need a face change (scars, mask, etc) but he'll need to change his mannerisms as well. He looked like Stark on stage. It may be possible but I'll need to see to make it real.
I think they’re going the “Doom transferring his consciousness to Stark’s body and then *being* Tony Stark but the moment he gets to 616 they will all understand this isn’t Stark, this is just Starks face.
I honestly believe this was the purpose of bringing back Chris Evans as Johnny Storm; to highlight the fact that multiverse doppelgangers can be entirely different people. It was such a great scene in D&W that shocked the audience. I think we'll easily reconcile the casting once we see his performance.
💯 agree
Agree with that too
I mean, yes offcourse they did it because of that(Feige would have never allowed it if it wasn’t intentional), but then no there is nothing to reconcile with since whe have beeing confronted with this fact for years, the multiverse saga just made it cannon.. think about it;
Hannibal King/Deadpool
Johnny Storm/Captain america
Johnny storm/Eric Killmonger
Moreau/heimdall
cottonmouth/blade
Black Maria/mother of Sokovia victim
Bolivar Trask/Etri the dwarf
Sue Storm/US.Marshall in iron man 2
Quicksilver/Kraven the Hunter
Zeus/father of kraven the hunter
Theoretically even ghost rider/Spider-man Noir, since whe don’t know if he looks like Nicolas Cage under the mask 😂 who knows, even spider-man 2099/moon knight. Tons of examples.. so I understand people are more connected with RDJ, but it’s nothing new.
My nigga!!! I said something nearly similar!!!
MAKES SENSE!! You're one of them Smart Peoples aintcha!?😅
Thanks for the update!
Deadpool and wolverine showed us marvel can cast the same person in different roles, having Chris Evans come back as the human torch just shows the unlimited possibilities of the multiverse
Bingo
Right… until both characters are side by side each other. Then it’s just complete mess. Imagine if Chris Evan’s captain America and human torch was on the same scene without masks. Yeah think about that real quick.
It’s more of a Ryan Reynolds doing because he did the same thing with Brolin who played Thanos
Which Deadpool clearly stated is already played tf out
Thing is Chris Evans played HT before RDJ hasn't played a version of Doom
I love the idea that Dr. doom is from the fantastic four universe, and escapes into the 616 just to find out that a man named Tony Stark, who happens to look exactly like him is widely, considered the savior of the universe. Dr. doom then slips into the persona of Tony Stark, and uses it to his advantage
No
I really wish they kept this under wraps until a post credit scene on the Fantastic Four movie. It would’ve been way more impactful.
THEY FELT THEY HAD TO SWITCH ALL THE KANG TALK. COULDNT WAIT UNTIL 2025..
How?! If you LISTEN to the RUSSO BROS at HALL H where they talk about the ******** CHARACTER ******** of Victor Von Doom, how could ANYONE jump to the conclusion that this is just Tony Stark gone bad?
They were drowning. They needed this.
They needed people to talk positively about them right now. I don't think a reshot captain America and the other films would've been enough to convince audiences they're changing. People I bet, before this, thought Deadpool was just gonna be a 1 off good movie bookended by disappointment. I do think it definitely would've blown people's mind and got them to that movie. But I think most marvel fans would've watched Fantastic 4 regardless. (I hope its good, definitely should be different from previous version)
I miss the days before social media, especially when it comes to movies. There are spoilers everywhere now. Hell, I basically saw 1/2 of Godzilla X Kong on RUclips before it was released. Most likely wouldn’t have happened for me back then. There was something magical about being legitimately surprised when a character thought to be dead, make an appearance in a sequel. Or the surprise you had when you finally saw a trailer of a sequel on the tv, not hearing about it online. Oh the good ol days.
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I don’t know how you can seriously do VVD justice with this short amount of time I just hope the movie doesn’t feel rushed.
EXACTLY!!!! I said this in another post…. Throwing RDJ as DrD just sounds like a FOX move and again “I just hope these movies don’t suck!”
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I try man! i really try!
I think it's awesome that he's coming back as Doom, I can't wait to see how they explain the shift as well as how he plays the villain.
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I'd love to check out ALL FIRES, but I'll be nowhere near Atlanta ON 9/1 :( I really hope you're right amd RDJ is simply Victor Von Doom, and not some kind of multi-verse variant.
AllFires ATL. I can't wait to see how this storyline plays out. I'm sure there are going to be some Multiverse hijinks involved. Avengers Doomsday can't come soon enough.
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I can't wait
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Yep 😊👍 especially if it really is also setting up to soft reboot the MCU as a whole and give us a fully complete Marvel Universe with *every* character home in it by then, huh?
This is awesome! Sounds like Kevin’s been wanting to bring DOOM home for awhile, my man made it happen in a BIG way!! Thank you Michael!
Dude I'm just happy that RDJ is back! None better IMHO! Feige knows what he's doing let's let him run with it. Keep up the amazing work and as always please stay safe.
Excelsior!
Heff
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Kevin knew we needed DOOM!
@@carlos_picyweiner and chose the wrong guy for the job 🙄 💀
@@yoyomayneunless you can see the future, you don’t know that lol
@@yoyomayne How many films have you made? How many successful films? How many franchises?
ZERO?
Have you ever casted a play even?
I’m pretty sure they wanted kang 🤦♂️💀
@@chrisszostek6700 Even if Majors had no legal troubles and was still the king of Hollywood, even if QUANTUMANIA did $2B and Disney+ subscriptions were skyhigh and all the Marvel films smash hits, AVENGERS 5 would still end with Doom having Wanda wipe out all the Kangs and TVA. It was always going to pivot to Doom.
Peace ✌🏼
Bring on the DOOM💚LFG!!!
can't wait!
Excelsior!
I can’t wait to see him play doom!
We will see
Can’t wait for doom !
I still can’t believe RDJ is coming back. Been trying to wrap my head around that still
I have full confidence that they can pull this off and have it make sense.
Praying for this movie’s success
Thanks
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Can't wait for doom
Let's do this right marvel
Thanks Mike. As always great job. Keep up the hard work.
Can’t wait to see how this all comes together. We needed a Victor Von Doom for quite some time now.
Thanks for the info, this is a great channel
This is exciting plan
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I'm just glad ROBERT DOWNEY JR is back!!!!!!!
RDJ can play any role. He is a great actor.
To be totally honest, I don't see any reason why they brought RDJ back unless he was playing a Stark variant that becomes Doom. Also, I would take anything the Marvel folks say with a grain of salt....they have shielded us from the truth many times
My trust in Disney/MCU has not returned. Deadpool 3 rocked, sure. A movie that was viciously protected by its stars. That actively pushed woke to the side in favor of nearly 30 minutes of gay jokes no one seems upset about, well played Reynolds. Not many men can just do that, and you did it on Disney's dime.
RDJ rocks, always has imho. I don't know about this casting. I'm hoping they don't pull the mask off until the very end. They ask RDJ to be the actor he is. Play another character. Tony Stark had a lot of RDJ in his portrail. Von Doom should not be that at all. Full actor psycho mode time. RDJ should talk to Williem Dafoe if he needs tips. Also, we need a good voice effect for Doom. I'd start out on no ties, never show RDJ's face, never use his unmodified voice, full CGI the character with only his eyes shown at all, his MOCAP. RDJ is a good enough actor to do another MCU gear. I'm all for it as long as we aren't making Doctor fucking Doom crack Iron Man movie jokes.
"woke" 🙄
Chris Evans played Johnny Stones. Maria Rambeu played different characters.
You can be totally different
I dunno why people try to complicate it that much… It’s just really that simple he’s a stark variant that has a lifestyle similar to doom or similar backstory that grew up to be victor von doom.. Screencrush perfectly explained this on how that could be the case.
@@jmandan8728 They can really do him justice. Like maybe his name would be like victor "Anthony" Von Doom or smth like that.
Show he was born into a poor family. Moved to latvaria with his mother. Didnt have the privilage. Climbed his own way up the ladder. His struggle made him who he is. Like there is so many way they can make him original dr doom. Like in what if we have seen tchala becoming star lord right, I dont know why people make it such a big deal. And for Pedro Pascals reed, Downeys Doom is perfect. Their energy goes well. We have already seen Downey play a jealous guy type in Oppeheimer.
And its a proving point for Downey too. For years critiques have been saying that playing Stark is easy for Downey. He is just playing himself. Now Downey gets to detach himself from Tony and shows us how range he has got
Love how it went down!
Cannot wait
Awesome 🎉grate news
Excited to see RDJ as Dr Doom!
I can't wait to see how this all plays out!!!
Can't wait
Cool
Yeah, at first I wasn't feeling RDJ as DOOM. But now...now I can not wait!
Hyped for this!
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It is still cool that RDJ is back.
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I’m skeptical about this
I don't know what to think. Anytime I think about all I can imagine me seeing and hearing on screen will be Tony Stark dressed up as Victor Von Doom
Ive been watching this channel for years, and am just now seeing your BAND????
i wonder if RDJ as Dr Doom will be introduced in the Fantastic Four movie and somehow follow them to the MCU main timeline.
That's what I think
@@Epiccomicgamer Well, you're in luck. Because from what I heard from Cosmic Marvel this Doom will kill off the whole council of Kangs to take place as the main antagonist for "The Multiverse Saga" by then when he does there
@@hunterrousseau3770 I figured that was the plan after Kang dynasty anyway.
@@Epiccomicgamer Shame, maybe in the MCU soft reboot it could be better next time around when that time comes eventually?
This is crazy
To do Oppenheimer which was a masterpiece then come back to do Marvel again, RDJ is truly blessing us
oh i cant wait to hear this!!
Moping around for I missed the Xmen97 finale but so happy to have caught Deadpool & Wolverine plus thrilled to see further content with my faves.
Awesome
Can't wait to find out how they'll bring Doom into the MCU!
And even do him justice than the 2000s Tim Storyy directed or 2015 Josh Trank (due to studio interference from Fox) Fantastic Four movies did before then
That's overall good news.
He was on point
Bring on Doom.
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Getting Victor Von Doom Right! Hell Yeah!
I have real high hopes for RDJ killin' this role as Dr Doom! ❤
Cool
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Awesome video
Edit is gonna kill it
Just can't wrap my head around RDJ as Von Doom. Not only will they need a face change (scars, mask, etc) but he'll need to change his mannerisms as well. He looked like Stark on stage. It may be possible but I'll need to see to make it real.
I think they’re going the “Doom transferring his consciousness to Stark’s body and then *being* Tony Stark but the moment he gets to 616 they will all understand this isn’t Stark, this is just Starks face.
I'm really excited for how this is going to develop, I'm preparing to for a nice surprise development!
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Hopes it's done right
This definitely is the comeback the MCU needed
Love the wording here! Geeked
I really like the run you alluded to before where VVD body swaps with Tony
I’m so excited for this movie and to see how it changes the mcu. Mostly excited for all the character interactions.
This really sounds like it's gonna be epic! Catn't wait!
It's straight Doom. No variant. No Stark.
🎉
They are being candid because this is all to throw ppl off
I'm excited to see how the movie will be!
Will be interesting to see this come up into the MCU
I hope Doctor Doom is done well.
Much better than Julian and Toby's portrayals of the character were anyway here
I’m excited
It will be very interesting to see how this will work out.
I'm ready for it