Nice to see you back. Your right about the newer trucks. We run all sorts at work and they are all troubled. I’ve got a 1997 Toyota Land Cruiser had it since 04 with 48.000.now on 294.000 miles. And still going strong 💪. My wife’s daily driver.
Good to see you back mucka, i reckon you've hit the nail on the head there , its the disposable world in which we live nowadays. We Had the injectior problems with a VW caddy and all the electric components go as well. Even Land Rovers have gone that way, they don't make them like they used to haha :)
Good to see you back Lord Muck. We watched a programme a while back, it mainly focused on house hold appliances having a certain life. The term they used was 'built in obsolescence ' like when the printer says it needs ink but you know it can last a bit longer. They want to sell more ink. Nothing last as it should these days. We have modern ish vehicles in our house hold but the 91 Defender is a keeper for as long as possible. All the best. Do well
that number plate lol! See a similar thing on trains Muck, notice failure trends around certain mileage. Nice to see you back on RUclips. Be seeeeeing you.
Sir Muck..... Back in the day... things were mechanically engineered to do the same thing... mechanically inclined individuals like myself would be left scratching their heads over this reality.... so much easier to "sabotage" things electronically.... Good video... and thank you so much for it !!
I've always said that the box section chassis on many vehicles have holes stamped in them facing the rear wheel arches specifically in order to let corrosive wet get inside to ensure thorough corrosion limits the life of the chassis and vehicle to between 10 and 15 years maximum. Nissan obviously got its calculations wrong because many failed well before ten years in the previous Navara, although new ones are still stamped to look like Swiss cheese from the factory. Vehicles are certainly engineered to have a finite life. Generally it has been ten years intensive use or 150,000 miles. Anything more has been a bonus with some brands building for longer life than others. However I'm old enough to remember when they were built to fail by five years or 75,000 miles with 3000 mile service intervals and six months warranty from new. In the early 1970's you would need a new battery and full exhaust annually along with various steering and suspension joints and propshaft joints, points and plugs and brake pads every eight thousand miles. Bodies would have great big rust holes in them by the fourth year and some would fail their MOT on structural rust by their fifth birthday. Indeed many Lancia and some Datsun and Toyota wouldn't pass their first MOT at three years and would be scrapped. It hasn't got back to being quite that bad yet.
I have a 7 year old Amarok Canyon, with antirust treatment the body is OK for years to come, but mecanical problems is yet to foresee. Cars in DK is rather expensive, one have to take care of the 'baby'... It is more a limousine than a workhorse, lovely to drive!
Hi Kurt nice to see you back.and your right mate we get the same stuff in the road construction machinery industry ,always dpf ,agr injectors, derate , software and as for bloody adblu don't get me started😂
Hi Kurt, good to see back. Thanks for the update on the Amorak. I think there is a lot in what you say. I have been thinking of getting one myself and I noticed a lot of people seem to move them on coming up to 100k.
And that my friend is why I don't buy new . Have a 88 k-1500 Chevy 4x4 350,000 mile still ticking and bought my better half a 95 Chevy Tahoe with 278,324 on her ticker and still rolling strong they both are . Glad to see u back was going to send u an email to chk on u
Nice to see you back on utube and yer I would agree with you there nothing to say that wot you said is not true no body know wot the dealer do when your not there to see any how hope bin keeping well and look forward to seeing you soon on utube
I have a 1994 80 series Landcruiser with 160000 miles on that runs without missing a beat and looks the dogs bollocks. They're still available to import from Japan and you will get a good one to your door for around £15000 I would have two of these before I would have a new anything 4X4. Good to see you back Kurt.
@@LordMuck Best 4x4 ever made, we ran the 70 and 80s in Saudi and they beat anything else off the sand for reliability in harsh conditions, the only thing that came close was the Nissan Patrol.
That's what they ran in Australia as well Land Rover's were very far and few between specially in the countryside did see a series 1 in a old shed with a chassis that was like new.
Glad to see ya back Mucker! Yes they are engineering cars with a shelf life to sell more cars/parts. Especially diesels with the stupid emissions systems on them. They also on purpose make parts go obsolete after x years.
Yes I agree with you 100% I did 180k km on my amarok and egr valve failure egr cooler started to leak antifreeze. Also clogged DPF filter and it happened all at once. Hope fuel injectors will last until 250k of km. Than I might sell it. I dont do a lot of km in a year usually around 30k of km.
I’ve got a 2011 2.0 litre with 327k.I also tow a trailer for work. Serviced every 10 k. Haven’t had a problem touch wood. Was not expecting it. Going to to keep it now
Over here the dealers stop supplying parts for a specific vehicle at about 10 years. You have to start looking for aftermarket suppliers then. Nice topic
I work for the NHS and so dont have this problem, cant afford new cars or bikes, a17 year old v70 and a couple of vintage Japanese bikes, great videos keep them coming.
Another good video Lord M.... Its like anything now, we live in a throw away society nowadays. Its now come onto Cars now, as u know what I do, I've noticed a different in it as well. 100k is now what alot of cars run for then it's open heart surgery on them.... Is it the start of things to come, nope it's already here lol.
Sadly I have to agree that something seems to be up. I've a crappy 1.2 clio to chug round instead of the defender. I'm gonna have to scrap the clio not for a mechanical issue but the electronic side of it. They can build long lasting engines... just electronic side screws it up.
Our ford connect van 1800cc diesel.... 700,000+ 2004, ran in red diesel all its life, engine is squeaky clean for its hammering. I just put new injectors, seals whatnot before it goes when it’s in escort or repair
I bought an old diahatsu fourtrack with only 55k and one owner the other month to pull my plant trailer to try and avoid the very expensive problems that just seem to go on and on. Should be able to keep mine going with a big hammer a welder for some time to come 😂
Which is fine if you don't do many miles each day/year etc but I need something fairly up to date - trouble is that it now equates to changing them every 2 years
If I recall correctly, the term for it is planned obsolescence, manufacturers know that after a predefined time period parts start to fail, and customers don't want large repair bills, which makes them more willing to change or upgrade. This policy affects almost anything you can buy, everything has a shelf life to keep customers coming back because people accept it as the norm.
When was working ran Escort vans for most of the time 150,000 miles with out engine troubles odd track rod end or a spring . Since finished work been running a Citroen Nemo April 15 on a 15 plate bought end of October 2017 46,000 on the clock at 80,000 its had 2 new injectors looks like it will need another 2 shortly £320 for injector and programming in . Even things like springs etc are made of poorer quality material , was told by someone who knows about metals that you can tell by looking at the break
Just found this channel it's bloody great love it. I'm thinking of replacing by range rover sport and buying a amarok and this video has helped understand what goes wrong with them and I have to agree with you though electronic computer makes things go wrong same with range rovers first 3/5 year with the dealer everything goes wrong soon as they are second hand and you take them to your own machanic and boom everything last for ever no problems, just age related problems. please make some more videos of amorok !
Don't fall into the trap of thinking a 5 year old Range Rover (or anything new vehicle) will suddenly improve once it's out of warranty - that's when the big bills will start to hit. The issues are built in from new and they have a set shelf life.
I have a 2008 range rover sport HSE 140000mile on the clock full service history just had general maintenance problems tbh, my mate works for jaguar landrover as a master tec and he said the new ones from the day they are built they are problem after problem normally well they are under warranty then after that they are normally re built by time they hit the second handers there not bad just general wear and tear. But I also know a guy who is a suppose what they call a master machanic of trucks new and old vintage and he said the ecu chip or electronic computer is designed to break and flag things up and then the only people you can normally go to in the dealers as they are the only one with the software as it's so expensive but they lead you to believe they can only fix it unless you know someone bent to do it for you
It's not the ECU that flags an issue that's the problem, it's the components that fail that the ECU picks up on that is the issue. It doesn't matter how good a mechanic you are, these units are disposable and once they fail, they fail. Anyone that runs a modern vehicle much past 150k or 5 years now is asking for trouble.
This conspiracy started with light bulbs.... seriously google it! Bulb manufacturers back in the day made them so well they where lasting to long and the companies profits where cut drastically. World leaders in the bulb industry made a pact to make bulbs have a certain shelf life. I’m talking 1920’s here.. As you said in the video, same thing with Apple phones, I wouldn’t be surprised about the car industry doing the same thing tbh
@@LordMuck If you don't know already DPF removal is no longer allowed. I vehicle that has had it's DPF moved won't be able to pass an MOT. With the miles you do I'd be surprised if it becomes an issue anyway. It's people doing short journeys that cause them to fail.
Noticed this trend in the courier industry where a merc Sprinter would regularly hit 500k...I always ran em to 300k min and swapped. Now lads are having all sorts of issues and they ain't a cheap van
Even worse here in EU, our fleet of jumperz reach 150 000 km and engine filure occours. With all they are serviced regularry at zitroean' s offical service workshop. We used to run the vans 5years/500 000 km, but from arround 2019/20 they pass 250 000 with verry high repair costs. It is obviously a plan to rip of people. As we all heard: " In 2030 you will own nothing and be happy."
I'm waiting to see how people are getting on with the 1.9 engines. We had a old 1.9 VW golf estate 130hp. But it had to be chipped because it was faster thain a 150hp hatchback. Me and my dad would always said if you could put that engine in a 4x4 and have the right clutch and gear ratios for towing it would be invincible.
Yes kurt I too believe this as we were chatting about it on the phone earlier in the year, Programed to fail components Reliability dosent bring in profit I've a amarok it's just clicked 104k I'm thinking wether to replace injectors or get rid, I do like it it's been faultless but it will bite me I guess James
Got 145k miles out of my 2012 Amarok with only really routine maintenance and a remap for a failed EGR. Then the travelling entrepreneurs helped themselves to it, so I've bought a 2016 50k miler with an auto box. Fingers crossed.....
Most people I speak to mostly have issues with the systems to help reduce emissions. EGR, PDF etc. Obviously the emissions targets manufacturers have to meet coupled with the ever growing power levels, in a lot of cases from smaller engines, is affecting reliability. I have just purchased a new Toyoya Hilux. It produces less power than its rivals, yet it is worse on fuel consumption. I suspect this is a conscious decision by Toyota to help with reliability and i'm hoping it is much more reliable than the Mitsubishi L200 i traded in. But in reality I haven't got a clue. It's a lot of dosh to gamble with.
No, the rear opening isn't as easy to access as the D4 and the shape hasn't grown on me. Lovely vehicles, just not for me. However, I will be taking a close interest in the new Defender...
@@LordMuck I use a 2 litre diesel discovery for work travelling around the UK, covering approximately 40-50,000 miles a year. It has just gone back into Land Rover to have a 3rd engine fitted. The initial one lasted 20,000 miles, it was taken in and they had no idea what was wrong, so replaced with a new 2.0 Diesel engine. Now the same problems are occurring, (lack of power, very rough sounding, and un responsive), so It is having yet another engine fitted as they cant figure out the problem. We have over 6000 miles built up on courtesy vehicles now though, so not all bad.
An interesting video, several years ago an engineer that worked on Range Rovers and only Range Rovers told me that vehicles are designed and set up and start going wrong at a certain age eight or nine years of age.. Range Rovers are not cheap so repairs will expensive were his words
Guess thats why in the US there is a big trade in aftermarket ECU and gear box control units. Last year I purchased a Mitsubishi barbarian brand new. Guaranteed it will not last as long as the BMC truck I purchased in the 70,s. That got 40MPG whereas the new thing gets not much more than half that it lasted 250000 miles with nothing mor than new injectors.
Problem you get is we want better emissions, fuel economy, comfort and all at an affordable price. The tolerance in all that is so tight thing's just don't last. Most large fleets run to the first mot or at most 5 years then costs spiral. I think the time of the electric vehicle is round the corner and will be something you never own and just rent like a phone contract.
alass adding to the illness of our throw away society it started with the contents of the argos catalogue etc, now leeching to cars and houses. and it is government and manufacturer backed Have had conversations about manufactures knowing how long your washing machine will last also wondered in the past what year the last antiques were made also brings to mind there take on security because they want you to buy either a new vehicle or the damaged parts
Best example of built-in obsolescence is any electrc vehicle. Cars, bikes, scooters. Imagine a 6 year old mercedes with a duff battery. Gone from being worth tens of thousands to scrap value overnight. S time consumers woke up and smelled the coffee. The whole point of buying a brand like vw should be for reliability and longevity. Thats just an urban myth these days.
In my 2012 VW AMAROK all the sudden the A/C compressor died, and a couple of months later the ABS module just failed.... over $4000 to fix em both on the dealership.... It's got 144 000 KMS on it.....
It's done to get rid of petrol/diesel cars and into electric/hybrid crap. It's an industry con sponsored by higher powers. I work for Ford and the lack quality is disgusting. And all the emission parts are so pricy now. Also getting parts for Ford's over 10 to 12 years is getting rapidly harder/impossible.
It's more to do with emissions regulations than planned obsolescence. If manufacturers were planning this we wouldn't have gone from peak Diesel (~2005) to worst Diesel in the space of a couple years. With the introduction of Euro 5(?) Diesels inevitably become much more complicated.
No, emissions only play a small part. Open circuits in pumps, sensors etc, sealed for life prop bearings, single use motors and cylinder heads with non removable fasteners are all part of the engineered obsolescence which in itself is hardly a secret within the motoring industry. Emission controls are just a pain in the arse.
@@LordMuck Producing a truck to last 30 years would cost manufacturers more than producing one to last 15 years. The corresponding extra list-price cost would not be tolerated by the consumer.
It is annoying that, you can't get the millage out of these newer cars, every manufacturer seems to be swapping 1.2/1.4 litre engines for little 3 cylinder 1.0 liters, these will surely have to work harder and won't get the millage out of them, I have a 2011 vauxhall corsa 1.0, and will pass 100,000 miles this week, I'm not sure how long it will last tho...
Excellent makes you think Kurt like anything electrical these days not built to last for example washing machine's fridge freezers have an sort life, an engineer told me to buy the cheapest i can get then just throw away as most have the same electrics as the expensive ones !!
Think you might be on to something there Mucker.... all these EGR, DPF, ADBLUE systems are just made to fail in my opinion! After owning a Golf from new.... five years to the month that we picked it up the EGR valve failed.... cost almost a thousand quid to get it back on the road!!!
Am can't understand why you didn't go for the Land Cruiser UK version, you know what the ozys call the prado. They do utility version with a manual. Maybe they also do the shelf life thing also, still it's basic enough for little to go wrong, but time would tell I guess. Maybe It's time to buy old cars and recondition the engine.
Understood, shame there are so few options for us here in the UK. The Australians get all the best picks from Toyota while we are left with the crumbs.
My dad had a old 02 reg discovery 2, 230k miles never went wrong, did what we wanted it to, pull cattle trailer well, a year ago we sold it and had a discovery 3, 10 reg, when we bought it it had done 70k miles for the first 5 months it was perfect and now its useless,loses power every 45-50 mins, electic failure, we've had landrover people cime and look at it and when they sort it out its goes wrong 20 mins later, its worthless now, we cant get it sold because of everything thats wrong with it, so now we use a new Mitsubishi shogun, amazing truck,7 seater which is ideal when theres 6 of us in my family, and can tow 3.5 ton, and pulls like tank. Wheve had it for 4 minths now and never had a fault with it.
Vw just want your money. 2016 vw tiguan here. Can't change oil filter unless you have a lift. Old one I could change oil and filter in ten minutes. Scheemers
Ain't that the truth !! I've found a couple plus I've also stumbled on a fantastic transmission specialist - Bob Smith at Mileham, Norfolk. Proper old school 😎
Mile for mile I think it's about even. The Amarok has now done 205,000 Miles (approx 330,000 km) and although repairs are annoying, I'm not unduly concerned.
@@LordMuck Fair enough, with the Land Rovers I always have a sense of uneasyness, in the back of my head that something might and actually will go wrong, where as with the Amarok's its quite different
No, I think any vehicle from (at a guess) 2010 onwards will have engineered obsolescence in-built and therefore you have a choice - replace every 3-4 years or stand the repair bills.
Everything has a built in obsolescence today. Cars today are made for 100,000mls or 8-10 years tops. Everything it seems is made to fail, at some point. It's become a throw away society too where it's easier for people to buy new rather than take something apart and fix it. Like you said too, you have to look at it from a business point of view too, no business in making something that'll last forever. Then on the other side of the coin theres people that nearly refuse to admit when a car is beyond economic repair and insist you do €2,500 worth of work on a piece of shit that shouldn't be on the road and they think they have a new car again. I've seen every side of this, having work in Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, independent garage, Grass machinery Workshop...the list goes on. Very well made points and a good honest video.
I'll stick to my old td5 110, may not be the most reliable thing in the world but I can fix it myself and it will still be around long after your anorak is scrapped
But it won't be will it ? If I keep repairing the VW it will be going as long as your 110 and I won't end up like a hunched up cripple with a wet knee....
I never plan to buy a new car, 90s toyotas for life. All this new technology they coming out with, power this, safety that, fancy screens, I just see stuff I dont needs thats going to break.
@@LordMuck Next time you meet George driving his Ford TW. Please do his tractor a favour and teach him how to double declutch. I mastered the art at the age of 14, so I'm sure he could do it too.
Great video 👍🏻, hope she’s got a couple hundred thousand miles left in her ! great to see you at Jcb too , just uploaded a new harvest video on my channel if you would like to give it a watch would be greatly appreciated Thanks 👍🏻
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Thanks for sharing Kurt.. Nice to have you back mate...
Nice to see you back. Love the front plate at the beginning. Priceless.
Nice to see you back. Your right about the newer trucks. We run all sorts at work and they are all troubled. I’ve got a 1997 Toyota Land Cruiser had it since 04 with 48.000.now on 294.000 miles. And still going strong 💪. My wife’s daily driver.
Good to see you back! Great video with an interesting perspective on the shelf life of cars!
Good to see you back mucka, i reckon you've hit the nail on the head there , its the disposable world in which we live nowadays. We Had the injectior problems with a VW caddy and all the electric components go as well. Even Land Rovers have gone that way, they don't make them like they used to haha :)
Welcome back,you have Been missed.
Good to see you back again.
Great video Kurt 💪 gives u summin to think about 🤔 hope your well, look forward to seein more from you soon 👍👍
Good to see you back up on YT have a good one ☝️
Great video mate loved watching it hope you keeping well👍👍
Good to see you back Lord Muck.
We watched a programme a while back, it mainly focused on house hold appliances having a certain life. The term they used was 'built in obsolescence ' like when the printer says it needs ink but you know it can last a bit longer. They want to sell more ink. Nothing last as it should these days.
We have modern ish vehicles in our house hold but the 91 Defender is a keeper for as long as possible.
All the best.
Do well
Cracking Video good to see you back! Nice number plate!
that number plate lol!
See a similar thing on trains Muck, notice failure trends around certain mileage. Nice to see you back on RUclips.
Be seeeeeing you.
The DVLA are handing out some interesting number plates these days!?
I had some right strange twat stick it on for me...
@@LordMuck some portly digger driver?
No, some scarecrow Fastrac operative.
The portly digger driver was at a salad bar.
@@LordMuck that was my best shirt
My 2000 Toyota Prado VZJ95 has 382,700km still going strong. Keeping it as long as I can.
Good to see you again fella.
Good to see you back mucka
Sir Muck..... Back in the day... things were mechanically engineered to do the same thing... mechanically inclined individuals like myself would be left scratching their heads over this reality.... so much easier to "sabotage" things electronically.... Good video... and thank you so much for it !!
I have a 2.0 140 HP Amarok, 2016 year. 170.000 km and no problems/issues! The engine is as new! Very good car!!
I've always said that the box section chassis on many vehicles have holes stamped in them facing the rear wheel arches specifically in order to let corrosive wet get inside to ensure thorough corrosion limits the life of the chassis and vehicle to between 10 and 15 years maximum. Nissan obviously got its calculations wrong because many failed well before ten years in the previous Navara, although new ones are still stamped to look like Swiss cheese from the factory.
Vehicles are certainly engineered to have a finite life. Generally it has been ten years intensive use or 150,000 miles. Anything more has been a bonus with some brands building for longer life than others. However I'm old enough to remember when they were built to fail by five years or 75,000 miles with 3000 mile service intervals and six months warranty from new. In the early 1970's you would need a new battery and full exhaust annually along with various steering and suspension joints and propshaft joints, points and plugs and brake pads every eight thousand miles. Bodies would have great big rust holes in them by the fourth year and some would fail their MOT on structural rust by their fifth birthday. Indeed many Lancia and some Datsun and Toyota wouldn't pass their first MOT at three years and would be scrapped.
It hasn't got back to being quite that bad yet.
I have a 7 year old Amarok Canyon, with antirust treatment the body is OK for years to come, but mecanical problems is yet to foresee. Cars in DK is rather expensive, one have to take care of the 'baby'... It is more a limousine than a workhorse, lovely to drive!
Hi Kurt nice to see you back.and your right mate we get the same stuff in the road construction machinery industry ,always dpf ,agr injectors, derate , software and as for bloody adblu don't get me started😂
Hi Kurt, good to see back. Thanks for the update on the Amorak. I think there is a lot in what you say. I have been thinking of getting one myself and I noticed a lot of people seem to move them on coming up to 100k.
I think it applies to most manufacturers now.
Hear hear, some very valid points there Kurt:)
And that my friend is why I don't buy new . Have a 88 k-1500 Chevy 4x4 350,000 mile still ticking and bought my better half a 95 Chevy Tahoe with 278,324 on her ticker and still rolling strong they both are .
Glad to see u back was going to send u an email to chk on u
An auto electrician said to me there are weak points built into all electric electronic components in vehicles. It's like the everlasting light bulb technically possible but the light bulb factories would eventually close.
The governments are pushing for the death of the combustion engine in the coming years. Disposable unreliable electric vehicles are on the way. Yet the jet engine the biggest polluter will be exempt from government interference as the jet engine is so important to the jet set government ministers.
The common man is at the mercy of governments and manufacturers.
Good to see you back on RUclips©👍 🚜
Nice to see you back on utube and yer I would agree with you there nothing to say that wot you said is not true no body know wot the dealer do when your not there to see any how hope bin keeping well and look forward to seeing you soon on utube
My lil ole Shogie is 24yrs old, 132000 miles. Still ok. I tend to park her a bit now simply as she is verging on a classic, plus she is bloody tidy.
I have a 1994 80 series Landcruiser with 160000 miles on that runs without missing a beat and looks the dogs bollocks. They're still available to import from Japan and you will get a good one to your door for around £15000 I would have two of these before I would have a new anything 4X4. Good to see you back Kurt.
Bloke I know had a mid 80's Landcruiser that needed a set of shells at 410,000 miles. Top end was untouched.
@@LordMuck Best 4x4 ever made, we ran the 70 and 80s in Saudi and they beat anything else off the sand for reliability in harsh conditions, the only thing that came close was the Nissan Patrol.
We had Landcruisers and Patrol GR's in Algeria.
That's what they ran in Australia as well Land Rover's were very far and few between specially in the countryside did see a series 1 in a old shed with a chassis that was like new.
I saw a handful of Series 3 LWB Landys in the Sahara.
Good video 👍🏻
How you getting on? Hope your well, good to see you back 👍🏽
speaking the truth. All the trucks with DPF have issues .
Absolutely true the Chrysler I once had the transmission went out at 80k miles.
Good honest video
Glad to see ya back Mucker! Yes they are engineering cars with a shelf life to sell more cars/parts. Especially diesels with the stupid emissions systems on them. They also on purpose make parts go obsolete after x years.
It's interesting what you said about software updates initiating a "timer". Inherent obsolescence exists in almost everything sold in retail
Yes I agree with you 100% I did 180k km on my amarok and egr valve failure egr cooler started to leak antifreeze. Also clogged DPF filter and it happened all at once. Hope fuel injectors will last until 250k of km. Than I might sell it. I dont do a lot of km in a year usually around 30k of km.
I’ve got a 2011 2.0 litre with 327k.I also tow a trailer for work. Serviced every 10 k. Haven’t had a problem touch wood. Was not expecting it. Going to to keep it now
327 km's ?
@@LordMuck 327.000 km.
Love number plate at start would love one ☝️
Over here the dealers stop supplying parts for a specific vehicle at about 10 years. You have to start looking for aftermarket suppliers then. Nice topic
I work for the NHS and so dont have this problem, cant afford new cars or bikes, a17 year old v70 and a couple of vintage Japanese bikes, great videos keep them coming.
You say you can't afford new stuff but then list stuff people are now paying a lot of money for 😂
Keep them going, they'll not let you down 😉
@@LordMuck Thanks, Merrry Christmas, spent longer with you than the wife so far today, Ha Ha
Old trucks soldier on mechanically, but often rust away. New ones don't rust (much!), but fail on complexities... Can't win!
Another good video Lord M.... Its like anything now, we live in a throw away society nowadays. Its now come onto Cars now, as u know what I do, I've noticed a different in it as well. 100k is now what alot of cars run for then it's open heart surgery on them.... Is it the start of things to come, nope it's already here lol.
My dad has a 2010 2.0 biturbo currently running 300 000 km still running good for now
Mine is fast approaching 400,000 Kms
Good video as always. Bit on banter with George on the number plate?
Sadly I have to agree that something seems to be up. I've a crappy 1.2 clio to chug round instead of the defender. I'm gonna have to scrap the clio not for a mechanical issue but the electronic side of it. They can build long lasting engines... just electronic side screws it up.
Our ford connect van 1800cc diesel.... 700,000+
2004, ran in red diesel all its life, engine is squeaky clean for its hammering. I just put new injectors, seals whatnot before it goes when it’s in escort or repair
Exactly - without all the management stuff it proves what engines are capable of !
Yep. That's why I left the motor trade and run stuff from the 90s.
Thanks mine just gone over 80k so best get it gone then. thanks for the vid LM
I'd say get an EGR delete done, then take the rest as it comes.
Would have to agree with you LM , Not right things are not built to last anymore . Thats a shame
I bought an old diahatsu fourtrack with only 55k and one owner the other month to pull my plant trailer to try and avoid the very expensive problems that just seem to go on and on. Should be able to keep mine going with a big hammer a welder for some time to come 😂
This is why I keep my hi Lux,220k,never misses a beat!
Which is fine if you don't do many miles each day/year etc but I need something fairly up to date - trouble is that it now equates to changing them every 2 years
If I recall correctly, the term for it is planned obsolescence, manufacturers know that after a predefined time period parts start to fail, and customers don't want large repair bills, which makes them more willing to change or upgrade.
This policy affects almost anything you can buy, everything has a shelf life to keep customers coming back because people accept it as the norm.
When was working ran Escort vans for most of the time 150,000 miles with out engine troubles odd track rod end or a spring . Since finished work been running a Citroen Nemo April 15 on a 15 plate bought end of October 2017 46,000 on the clock at 80,000 its had 2 new injectors looks like it will need another 2 shortly £320 for injector and programming in . Even things like springs etc are made of poorer quality material , was told by someone who knows about metals that you can tell by looking at the break
Just found this channel it's bloody great love it. I'm thinking of replacing by range rover sport and buying a amarok and this video has helped understand what goes wrong with them and I have to agree with you though electronic computer makes things go wrong same with range rovers first 3/5 year with the dealer everything goes wrong soon as they are second hand and you take them to your own machanic and boom everything last for ever no problems, just age related problems. please make some more videos of amorok !
Don't fall into the trap of thinking a 5 year old Range Rover (or anything new vehicle) will suddenly improve once it's out of warranty - that's when the big bills will start to hit.
The issues are built in from new and they have a set shelf life.
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I have a 2008 range rover sport HSE 140000mile on the clock full service history just had general maintenance problems tbh, my mate works for jaguar landrover as a master tec and he said the new ones from the day they are built they are problem after problem normally well they are under warranty then after that they are normally re built by time they hit the second handers there not bad just general wear and tear. But I also know a guy who is a suppose what they call a master machanic of trucks new and old vintage and he said the ecu chip or electronic computer is designed to break and flag things up and then the only people you can normally go to in the dealers as they are the only one with the software as it's so expensive but they lead you to believe they can only fix it unless you know someone bent to do it for you
Our of your opinion which is better the old 2L or the new V6
It's not the ECU that flags an issue that's the problem, it's the components that fail that the ECU picks up on that is the issue. It doesn't matter how good a mechanic you are, these units are disposable and once they fail, they fail.
Anyone that runs a modern vehicle much past 150k or 5 years now is asking for trouble.
This conspiracy started with light bulbs.... seriously google it! Bulb manufacturers back in the day made them so well they where lasting to long and the companies profits where cut drastically. World leaders in the bulb industry made a pact to make bulbs have a certain shelf life. I’m talking 1920’s here.. As you said in the video, same thing with Apple phones, I wouldn’t be surprised about the car industry doing the same thing tbh
Couldn’t agree more with you on that. Have thought that for the last few years.
Just a thought a remap might help with egr removal etc and even dpf.
I'll get the EGR delete and DPF removes so they will obviously need to tweak the ECU but I don't want any more power etc.
@@LordMuck If you don't know already DPF removal is no longer allowed. I vehicle that has had it's DPF moved won't be able to pass an MOT. With the miles you do I'd be surprised if it becomes an issue anyway. It's people doing short journeys that cause them to fail.
They can pass and they do, believe me...
Noticed this trend in the courier industry where a merc Sprinter would regularly hit 500k...I always ran em to 300k min and swapped. Now lads are having all sorts of issues and they ain't a cheap van
Even worse here in EU, our fleet of jumperz reach 150 000 km and engine filure occours. With all they are serviced regularry at zitroean' s offical service workshop.
We used to run the vans 5years/500 000 km, but from arround 2019/20 they pass 250 000 with verry high repair costs. It is obviously a plan to rip of people.
As we all heard: " In 2030 you will own nothing and be happy."
Time to move back to the old Horsepower!
Ved kommende fortalte att fortjenesten fra fabrikk for hver solgte bil var så lav att pengene måtte tas inn på deler og servis
Borrowed a works auto Amarok last week; V6 254ps, went like bloody stink. Daily driver is an Isuzu Dmax, not as refined but tough. Good Vid 👍🏻
how do people get on with the dmax? any body heard anything
Nice enough trucks, lots of space.
I'm waiting to see how people are getting on with the 1.9 engines. We had a old 1.9 VW golf estate 130hp. But it had to be chipped because it was faster thain a 150hp hatchback. Me and my dad would always said if you could put that engine in a 4x4 and have the right clutch and gear ratios for towing it would be invincible.
Yes kurt I too believe this as we were chatting about it on the phone earlier in the year,
Programed to fail components
Reliability dosent bring in profit
I've a amarok it's just clicked 104k I'm thinking wether to replace injectors or get rid, I do like it it's been faultless but it will bite me I guess
James
Just as we spoke about yes !
Bit of top gear there lord muck but very good keep it up thanks
i rekon ur right there
Got 145k miles out of my 2012 Amarok with only really routine maintenance and a remap for a failed EGR. Then the travelling entrepreneurs helped themselves to it, so I've bought a 2016 50k miler with an auto box. Fingers crossed.....
The EGR antics seems to be the catalyst for everything else.
The auto box is wonderful and permanent 4WD just like a Discovery.
Hi Lord muck when is the next video coming out Gerry Kelleher
long time no see
Good day, is it common that the Amarok is shown a blowout when I take out the dipstick??
How do you mean ?
Er det bærekraftig ? .. har fått opplysninger av en eldre mann som hadde kontakter i bilselger miljøet
over 400 000 km og går fortsatt
I always said you got enough knowledge to sort brexit out 🤔
Most people I speak to mostly have issues with the systems to help reduce emissions. EGR, PDF etc. Obviously the emissions targets manufacturers have to meet coupled with the ever growing power levels, in a lot of cases from smaller engines, is affecting reliability. I have just purchased a new Toyoya Hilux. It produces less power than its rivals, yet it is worse on fuel consumption. I suspect this is a conscious decision by Toyota to help with reliability and i'm hoping it is much more reliable than the Mitsubishi L200 i traded in. But in reality I haven't got a clue. It's a lot of dosh to gamble with.
Will we see you back in a Discovery when you come to upgrade, now that they offer a commercial??
No, the rear opening isn't as easy to access as the D4 and the shape hasn't grown on me. Lovely vehicles, just not for me. However, I will be taking a close interest in the new Defender...
@@LordMuck I use a 2 litre diesel discovery for work travelling around the UK, covering approximately 40-50,000 miles a year. It has just gone back into Land Rover to have a 3rd engine fitted. The initial one lasted 20,000 miles, it was taken in and they had no idea what was wrong, so replaced with a new 2.0 Diesel engine. Now the same problems are occurring, (lack of power, very rough sounding, and un responsive), so It is having yet another engine fitted as they cant figure out the problem. We have over 6000 miles built up on courtesy vehicles now though, so not all bad.
An interesting video, several years ago an engineer that worked on Range Rovers and only Range Rovers told me that vehicles are designed and set up and start going wrong at a certain age eight or nine years of age.. Range Rovers are not cheap so repairs will expensive were his words
Toyota trucks here in the states run for 3-400000 miles
Guess thats why in the US there is a big trade in aftermarket ECU and gear box control units. Last year I purchased a Mitsubishi barbarian brand new. Guaranteed it will not last as long as the BMC truck I purchased in the 70,s. That got 40MPG whereas the new thing gets not much more than half that it lasted 250000 miles with nothing mor than new injectors.
I thought you were gonna get in touch about that Ideal t9 video I gave Deano my number to pass on mate?
Don't know anything about it.
Problem you get is we want better emissions, fuel economy, comfort and all at an affordable price. The tolerance in all that is so tight thing's just don't last. Most large fleets run to the first mot or at most 5 years then costs spiral. I think the time of the electric vehicle is round the corner and will be something you never own and just rent like a phone contract.
I reckon that's exactly it
alass adding to the illness of our throw away society it started with the contents of the argos catalogue etc, now leeching to cars and houses. and it is government and manufacturer backed Have had conversations about manufactures knowing how long your washing machine will last also wondered in the past what year the last antiques were made also brings to mind there take on security because they want you to buy either a new vehicle or the damaged parts
So bearing in mind tractors are also a rolling computer these day. Is that gonna happen to them too?
It's possible...
@@LordMuck Hey fella, I know you did mention what I asked and thank you for the reply, I was just putting it out there to see what other thought.
The Quality of all vehicles is declining to suit the bean counters
Best example of built-in obsolescence is any electrc vehicle. Cars, bikes, scooters. Imagine a 6 year old mercedes with a duff battery. Gone from being worth tens of thousands to scrap value overnight. S time consumers woke up and smelled the coffee. The whole point of buying a brand like vw should be for reliability and longevity. Thats just an urban myth these days.
My god he back 😂😂😂
In my 2012 VW AMAROK all the sudden the A/C compressor died, and a couple of months later the ABS module just failed.... over $4000 to fix em both on the dealership....
It's got 144 000 KMS on it.....
Makes you wonder !
It's done to get rid of petrol/diesel cars and into electric/hybrid crap. It's an industry con sponsored by higher powers. I work for Ford and the lack quality is disgusting. And all the emission parts are so pricy now. Also getting parts for Ford's over 10 to 12 years is getting rapidly harder/impossible.
It's more to do with emissions regulations than planned obsolescence. If manufacturers were planning this we wouldn't have gone from peak Diesel (~2005) to worst Diesel in the space of a couple years. With the introduction of Euro 5(?) Diesels inevitably become much more complicated.
No, emissions only play a small part. Open circuits in pumps, sensors etc, sealed for life prop bearings, single use motors and cylinder heads with non removable fasteners are all part of the engineered obsolescence which in itself is hardly a secret within the motoring industry.
Emission controls are just a pain in the arse.
@@LordMuck Producing a truck to last 30 years would cost manufacturers more than producing one to last 15 years. The corresponding extra list-price cost would not be tolerated by the consumer.
Exactly, engineered obsolescence, not emission control. Vehicles are not even lasting 5 years now and it just means more new sales for manufacturers.
It is annoying that, you can't get the millage out of these newer cars, every manufacturer seems to be swapping 1.2/1.4 litre engines for little 3 cylinder 1.0 liters, these will surely have to work harder and won't get the millage out of them, I have a 2011 vauxhall corsa 1.0, and will pass 100,000 miles this week, I'm not sure how long it will last tho...
Excellent makes you think Kurt like anything electrical these days not built to last for example washing machine's fridge freezers have an sort life, an engineer told me to buy the cheapest i can get then just throw away as most have the same electrics as the expensive ones !!
Think you might be on to something there Mucker.... all these EGR, DPF, ADBLUE systems are just made to fail in my opinion! After owning a Golf from new.... five years to the month that we picked it up the EGR valve failed.... cost almost a thousand quid to get it back on the road!!!
Am can't understand why you didn't go for the Land Cruiser UK version, you know what the ozys call the prado. They do utility version with a manual. Maybe they also do the shelf life thing also, still it's basic enough for little to go wrong, but time would tell I guess. Maybe It's time to buy old cars and recondition the engine.
Needed a pickup, Amarok is the only one with 8 speed auto and permanent 4wd.
Understood, shame there are so few options for us here in the UK. The Australians get all the best picks from Toyota while we are left with the crumbs.
My dad had a old 02 reg discovery 2, 230k miles never went wrong, did what we wanted it to, pull cattle trailer well, a year ago we sold it and had a discovery 3, 10 reg, when we bought it it had done 70k miles for the first 5 months it was perfect and now its useless,loses power every 45-50 mins, electic failure, we've had landrover people cime and look at it and when they sort it out its goes wrong 20 mins later, its worthless now, we cant get it sold because of everything thats wrong with it, so now we use a new Mitsubishi shogun, amazing truck,7 seater which is ideal when theres 6 of us in my family, and can tow 3.5 ton, and pulls like tank. Wheve had it for 4 minths now and never had a fault with it.
Just wait a few years or until you put some miles on...
Vw just want your money. 2016 vw tiguan here. Can't change oil filter unless you have a lift. Old one I could change oil and filter in ten minutes. Scheemers
Have you gone off the dodge ram idea now?
I've had one for a couple of years now 😉
@@LordMuck oh, must of missed that video, looking forward to your review.
You need a good independent VW specialist too Lord Muck.
Ain't that the truth !!
I've found a couple plus I've also stumbled on a fantastic transmission specialist - Bob Smith at Mileham, Norfolk.
Proper old school 😎
More issues than the Disco?
Mile for mile I think it's about even.
The Amarok has now done 205,000 Miles (approx 330,000 km) and although repairs are annoying, I'm not unduly concerned.
@@LordMuck Fair enough, with the Land Rovers I always have a sense of uneasyness, in the back of my head that something might and actually will go wrong, where as with the Amarok's its quite different
No, I think any vehicle from (at a guess) 2010 onwards will have engineered obsolescence in-built and therefore you have a choice - replace every 3-4 years or stand the repair bills.
@@LordMuck I agree with that 100%
Everything has a built in obsolescence today. Cars today are made for 100,000mls or 8-10 years tops. Everything it seems is made to fail, at some point. It's become a throw away society too where it's easier for people to buy new rather than take something apart and fix it.
Like you said too, you have to look at it from a business point of view too, no business in making something that'll last forever.
Then on the other side of the coin theres people that nearly refuse to admit when a car is beyond economic repair and insist you do €2,500 worth of work on a piece of shit that shouldn't be on the road and they think they have a new car again.
I've seen every side of this, having work in Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, independent garage, Grass machinery Workshop...the list goes on.
Very well made points and a good honest video.
I'll stick to my old td5 110, may not be the most reliable thing in the world but I can fix it myself and it will still be around long after your anorak is scrapped
But it won't be will it ? If I keep repairing the VW it will be going as long as your 110 and I won't end up like a hunched up cripple with a wet knee....
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I never plan to buy a new car, 90s toyotas for life. All this new technology they coming out with, power this, safety that, fancy screens, I just see stuff I dont needs thats going to break.
If you don't do a lot of miles, you'll be okay but the problem you then face is rot and rust but if you're handy with fabrication you'll get by.
@@LordMuck testing
Testing what ?
Breakfast cereals ? Explosive pants ?
@@LordMuck Next time you meet George driving his Ford TW. Please do his tractor a favour and teach him how to double declutch. I mastered the art at the age of 14, so I'm sure he could do it too.
sounds like a d23 navara just blow up at 70-80 thousand miles
All vehicles are now set to fail after a certain mileage or age, not just Navaras.
Great video 👍🏻, hope she’s got a couple hundred thousand miles left in her ! great to see you at Jcb too , just uploaded a new harvest video on my channel if you would like to give it a watch would be greatly appreciated
Thanks 👍🏻
We'll have the Torquing Point JCB vid up later this week hopefully.
Will keep an eye out for it 👍🏻having a look though our footage now
i have a 13 plate with 126k and all its asked for is a set of tires
Amarok ?