I'm very thankful for all your great videos over the years, Dan. And I'm equally astonished that anyone can dislike great information they're getting for free! WTH?
Some of those negative people are probably business rivals to StewMac and doesn't like that StewMac gives away information that the rivals would rather keep inside the business (so they get more clients/money instead of people doing repairs at home).
I don't mind the thumbs down so much as it would be nice to see informed critic of the content. That (critical thinking) and taking personal responsibility are too frequently missing from these new social mediums. Like for instance, a little more detail about how long the glue stays viable, issues of buildup, cleanup, and a few other things might be criticized by someone needing their hand held, but I'm the type of guy who's comfortable working out things that unclear on my own. Dan is just one of those guys I think most of us who appreciate him would love to apprentice with him. And that's what I like most about YT- kind of feel like I get to do that without leaving my studio!
I watch this for Dan. It's a shame that Stewmac take lots of his sturdy jigs and make them crappy just to bring down production costs and sell at steep prices. FYI disliking a video does nothing...no clue why someone would downvote it, but your assumptions are weak. It might be that the video includes little new information towards hide glue since the use of the microwave was also in the video were Dan visits Frank Ford. Not a certain micture, no word about the temperature. I'm just happy to see Dan again.
Check out Trade Secrets! Issue 278, Evan Gluck: pro guitar repairs in a very small shop. Evan has some really great tips on organizing your shop, even if you have very limited space. www.stewmac.com/How-To/Trade_Secrets/Evan_Gluck_pro_guitar_repairs_in_a_very_small_shop.html
1. To extend Open Time: Add roughly 15% urea or table salt by weight. Will extend the working time of 251 grade hide glue from 1 minute to 5 minutes. 2. White Vinegar will speed and improve adhesion......Replace about 5% of the water by weight with white vinegar 3. Glycerin will increase flexiblility of the glue when dry: Add 5% to 15% glycerin by weight. Softer glue will accommodate wood movement. Every woodworker knew these things prior to 1950's. --Wm. Francis Brown, Furniture maker Camden, Maine www.LineAndBerry.com
I have found 1:1.8 ratio is perfect, I also add in 5-10% of the glue dry weight with urea to extend the open time a bit, it doesn't seem to have any negative side effects in terms of strength or creep.
Dear Dan, you're the best. Your books and videos are always with me. They have been for almost 30 years. I left a message to you with someone at StewMac's Facebook Messenger. Check it out, please.
First, thank very much. I don't know hide glue until I watch this. Very interesting stuff. Secondly, you may want to correct your title to "hide glue", instead of "hot glue".
So if i leave my guitar near the California sun like its 94 today everywhere unless your in a air conditioned space will my Guitar fall apart very easily
In the video you use a 1 to 1 ratio of granules to water. (One cup of each) I thought typically it's 1 to 1.8 or even 1 to 2 granules/water ratio? Have I been mixing mine too thinly?
It really depends on your job. If you want it to "flow" through cracks, for example, go for 1 part glue to 3 ou maybe 4 parts of water. If you want a thicker, gap filling glue (like for gluing necks and their tenons to the body), 1:1. It varies. Don't be afraid to try. For some jobs, I already used something like 10 part water to 1 part glue. Don't be scared. If you go wrong you can add water or glue. Do a test: make a small, tiny amount in the 10:1 proportion. Put some scrap wood together, clamping or not (some woodworkers don't use clamps when dealing with hide glue). Check it after 2-3 hours. You'll be amazed.
Thanks. In fact, I have used a 10:1 mix as a size before varnishing and liked the result. I'll have to try a 1:1 ratio- perhaps for gluing a bridge if I can keep the parts warm before gluing.
boblob2003 for Bridges I make a reverse proportion, although it’s not indicated and it is due to my paranoia in some jobs. LOL. 1 part glue to half part of water. Very sticky. Dan’s tips regarding heating the parts helps. But I live in Brazil - 80% of the time it’s hot as hell in here.
How long does it keep like that for in the fridge? I usually use it as I make it because I’m unsure of the time frame I can keep it in the fridge and not go bad or lose tack..
Treat it like food (don't eat it though). I mean, keep it in the fridge. Wait for it to cool and them put in the fridge. I never kept it in the fridge for more than 6 months. But I can tell you, 3 months at least! Mold stats to develop on the surface after that. This glue has lot of colagen - it doesn't lose its properties if well refrigerated.
A keep mine inside the freezer and never had any problem. I just use plastic bottles because glass ones would break when the water freezes and expands. The plastic is more malleable, but can break too. So i put it in the fridge and when it's cold, i move to the freezer. This way i never had problems with the expansion of the water turning into ice
Note that this glue is not suitable for vegans/vegetarians. It is literally made from animal hides. This can be important for some customers and should be mentioned.
If you can't guess what it is made from after seeing the name "hide glue" then no amount of information given for the product will help you figuring it out.
Ya know.. a lot of us knock StewMac for the prices of their ultra-specific tools but you gotta admit they have some wonderful content. Thanks Dan!
I'm very thankful for all your great videos over the years, Dan. And I'm equally astonished that anyone can dislike great information they're getting for free! WTH?
Some of those negative people are probably business rivals to StewMac and doesn't like that StewMac gives away information that the rivals would rather keep inside the business (so they get more clients/money instead of people doing repairs at home).
Yea, I hear you. Limited pie syndrome.
YT needs to make it so there is some personal responsibility with the thumbs up or down. Might cut down on the trolls.
I don't mind the thumbs down so much as it would be nice to see informed critic of the content. That (critical thinking) and taking personal responsibility are too frequently missing from these new social mediums.
Like for instance, a little more detail about how long the glue stays viable, issues of buildup, cleanup, and a few other things might be criticized by someone needing their hand held, but I'm the type of guy who's comfortable working out things that unclear on my own.
Dan is just one of those guys I think most of us who appreciate him would love to apprentice with him. And that's what I like most about YT- kind of feel like I get to do that without leaving my studio!
I watch this for Dan.
It's a shame that Stewmac take lots of his sturdy jigs and make them crappy just to bring down production costs and sell at steep prices. FYI disliking a video does nothing...no clue why someone would downvote it, but your assumptions are weak. It might be that the video includes little new information towards hide glue since the use of the microwave was also in the video were Dan visits Frank Ford. Not a certain micture, no word about the temperature. I'm just happy to see Dan again.
I BOUGHT THIS POT AND GLUE THANKS DAN GETTING SHOP CLEANED UP HARDEST PART FOR ME ORGANIZING..CANT WAIT TO USE THIS TO FIX CLASSICAL SUPPORT.
Check out Trade Secrets! Issue 278, Evan Gluck: pro guitar repairs in a very small shop. Evan has some really great tips on organizing your shop, even if you have very limited space.
www.stewmac.com/How-To/Trade_Secrets/Evan_Gluck_pro_guitar_repairs_in_a_very_small_shop.html
You can add urea to prolong set time. Vinegar to speed it up.
Always enjoy your videos.
William Brown WOW the ureia thing I knew. But what about the vinegar? What kind of vinegar? When? Which proportion? How? LOL. MAKE A VIDEO!
1. To extend Open Time: Add roughly 15% urea or table salt by weight. Will extend the working time of 251 grade hide glue from 1 minute to 5 minutes.
2. White Vinegar will speed and improve adhesion......Replace about 5% of the water by weight with white vinegar
3. Glycerin will increase flexiblility of the glue when dry: Add 5% to 15% glycerin by weight. Softer glue will accommodate wood movement.
Every woodworker knew these things prior to 1950's.
--Wm. Francis Brown, Furniture maker
Camden, Maine
www.LineAndBerry.com
William Brown but urea can degrade the strength of the glue, so are there any jobs that you recommend using it for?
Thanks, I think I'll try it. I almost didn't recognize you without the Optivisor.
Thanks Dan, great info to keep handy.
for hide glue, it is better to pre-mix once, then freeze it, and use when you want by wax warmer
thank you it is very clear because you include lenth of time for heating the glue as will as the temperature. 😊
I have found 1:1.8 ratio is perfect, I also add in 5-10% of the glue dry weight with urea to extend the open time a bit, it doesn't seem to have any negative side effects in terms of strength or creep.
This is good to know, thanks.
That's awesome! Microwave, of course!
I've been reading a book called the history of glue. I couldn't put it down!
:)
Dan is awesome!
Lowkey looks like dabs
Dan, another tip keep your place of work warm as well and clean excess glue off with a very hot damp cloth, this removes any residue left
National treasure Dab Erlewine.
Great video, as always!
Dear Dan, you're the best. Your books and videos are always with me. They have been for almost 30 years. I left a message to you with someone at StewMac's Facebook Messenger. Check it out, please.
1:1 ratio? That seems too thick. I usually go 1:1.8. Also a tip, if you use hot tap water in the pot to start it speeds things up.
In another video Dan recommends 1:2
First, thank very much. I don't know hide glue until I watch this. Very interesting stuff.
Secondly, you may want to correct your title to "hide glue", instead of "hot glue".
Do you have experience with (5%) acetic acid or formaldehyde or aluminium sulfate to make the glue stronger or harder or more moist resistant?
FANTASTIC VIDEO!
Does anyone knows the name of this glue in Portuguese?
Alguém sabe o nome deste tipo de cola em língua portuguesa?
Cola animal
@@riccardo-964esse é o nome dessa cola aí no Brasil?
Cá em Portugal não conheço "cola animal"...
So if i leave my guitar near the California sun like its 94 today everywhere unless your in a air conditioned space will my Guitar fall apart very easily
In the video you use a 1 to 1 ratio of granules to water. (One cup of each) I thought typically it's 1 to 1.8 or even 1 to 2 granules/water ratio? Have I been mixing mine too thinly?
It really depends on your job. If you want it to "flow" through cracks, for example, go for 1 part glue to 3 ou maybe 4 parts of water. If you want a thicker, gap filling glue (like for gluing necks and their tenons to the body), 1:1. It varies. Don't be afraid to try. For some jobs, I already used something like 10 part water to 1 part glue. Don't be scared. If you go wrong you can add water or glue. Do a test: make a small, tiny amount in the 10:1 proportion. Put some scrap wood together, clamping or not (some woodworkers don't use clamps when dealing with hide glue). Check it after 2-3 hours. You'll be amazed.
Thanks. In fact, I have used a 10:1 mix as a size before varnishing and liked the result. I'll have to try a 1:1 ratio- perhaps for gluing a bridge if I can keep the parts warm before gluing.
boblob2003 for Bridges I make a reverse proportion, although it’s not indicated and it is due to my paranoia in some jobs. LOL. 1 part glue to half part of water. Very sticky.
Dan’s tips regarding heating the parts helps. But I live in Brazil - 80% of the time it’s hot as hell in here.
How long does it keep like that for in the fridge? I usually use it as I make it because I’m unsure of the time frame I can keep it in the fridge and not go bad or lose tack..
Treat it like food (don't eat it though). I mean, keep it in the fridge. Wait for it to cool and them put in the fridge. I never kept it in the fridge for more than 6 months. But I can tell you, 3 months at least!
Mold stats to develop on the surface after that. This glue has lot of colagen - it doesn't lose its properties if well refrigerated.
A keep mine inside the freezer and never had any problem.
I just use plastic bottles because glass ones would break when the water freezes and expands. The plastic is more malleable, but can break too. So i put it in the fridge and when it's cold, i move to the freezer. This way i never had problems with the expansion of the water turning into ice
In this video you said 2:1 ratio. What's changed ? ruclips.net/video/Raq3pbGmmOg/видео.html
If I put that on the fridge
I'll confuse it with my
Raw honey and .......
No!
Do not put that I the fridge!
it is nothing but ordiary hide clue :-/
Note that this glue is not suitable for vegans/vegetarians. It is literally made from animal hides. This can be important for some customers and should be mentioned.
If you can't guess what it is made from after seeing the name "hide glue" then no amount of information given for the product will help you figuring it out.
@@jpm83 Um, I thought the name came from the glue disappearing when it dried.