A lot of "simple" tech. No turbos, no high pressure fuel pumps or direct injection, no timing chains stretched all over the front with a bunch of tensioners. This thing should run forever.
@@bill3641 They have modernized them. They are still cam in block push rod motors but the new ones have VVT with them and lots of modern tech. Pushrod motors arent very good for Racecars since OHC Motors can rev higher faster but still overall super reliable motors.
100% true!!!! I love my diesel but my next truck will be a gasser due to on the EPA crap. I’ve deleted everything but there will be a day in the future the bill will be 10k or so. I’ll wait a few years to see how the 7.3 does.
Bring it! I love big blocks and there is little in this world that annoys me more than being behind a diesel. They smell absolutely horrible...especially the newer ones.
@@Davido50 no Eco trash is trash stop trying to push that on everybody there's no point for an ecoboost engine to exist every year had dreams of putting an EcoBoost in their no everybody dreams of putting a big V8 under the hood
jmf80 sadly the bronco is most likely gonna be based on the ranger, and that 7.3 would break that truck in half as soon as you tap the gas. I don’t know why fords making them like that though, most of the bronco lovers are fans of the f-150 based models, and want it to be a bigger truck, and if it was f-150 based you know damn well ford would squeeze that big sumbitch in one.
Im all for this New motor but the 4.6 was not a mistake. Smooth, torquey and fuel efficient. The pushrod motors cant hold a candle to how smooth a well sorted OHC V8 is....you cant even feel it running.
@@GearHead704 i love that as well but for the car I commute over 100 miles daily in Ill take the 4.6 anyday! Save the lumpety-lump for the weekend car :)
@@twoeightythreez I dunno, the GM small block LS's and LT's are fine motors that perform great, can handle big power, and have nice meaty tq down low while smaller OHC see their gains higher up in the rev range. For a Super Duty, box truck, shuttle bus, etc. this engine makes a lot of sense. It will also be easier to package as it will be dimensionally smaller. Plus with the huge ratio spread of the 10-speed auto it will get to play happily where it makes its power. Like a big rig gasser. This will be an excellent option for those that don't want to shell out the extra cash for a powerstroke, either up front or in maintenance.
Todd Nansel cool story man. That’s all I see on the drag strip, juss some good ole LS swaps . Along with 95 percent of all the vehicles out there being GM vehicles.
The ‘Godzilla’ namesake should only apply to Japanese products. (Example: Nismo GTR) In this case may I suggest a moniker for this new engine, something like Hulk or King Kong?!!
Well you know how Godzilla was created as an expression of how Japanese people felt against Nuclear weapons ? So here are some naming options for this engine The atom collider The Atom Big Boy City leveler BIG FU*$ING NUKE The Nuke Literally little Tokyo The Manhattan engine Einstein's V8 Godzilla's Father The American The Bomber The American bomber The V8 of Uranium 238 The HeroshiWho? Just to name a few
Yes. It will definitely fit. Depending on your budget.....you can already buy a 4 bolt main all aluminum(block too), all forged shortblock direct from ford or American Muscle for 6500.00. It is 427 cubic inches(almost 7.3 liters). Put a set of kasse p38 heads, dominator carb, and a hydraulic cam in it. Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords tested this exact combo and it made 749.7 horsepower and atleast 575 lb/ft of torque. The heads from kasse are 2550.00. Cam 500.00 Carb 750.00 So around 12,000 if you add in all the small bits i left out.
446 CID. Bolts up to the 10 speed tranny. Dimensionally small. Cam in block with cross bolted steel crank. Under stressed. This could be very interesting.
Is there any more specs available like bore stroke rod leignth etc... Cross bolt main... Just like my 427 FORD... Not like the weak a•• 427 Chevy with the flimsey bottom end... You remember... The engine that won LeMans
Not really, you’d be better off with an old 460 and some Kaase heads. There is nothing special about this 7.3, it’s just a pushrod, in-line valve wedge engine with cylinder deactivation and a cam phaser.
Skirted iron y-block , 6 bolt main , in block billet camshaft , coil near plug reluctor ignition , roller lifters and pushrods . Hmmmm I wonder why that sounds familiar . It sounds like the formula for an LS . Lol I guess if you can't beat them join them .
Einstein I think the small block Chevy was design before the small block Ford because they were still milk in the old flat head oh are you talking about the Y junk block I know my history 55 when the Chevy block was built last year the Flathead was 54 so what are you talkin about
Watched a video where a Ford engineer said the power of the 7.3 is about half way between the 6.2 gas and the 6.7 diesel..if my math is right that is somewhere around 650 ft. lbs. of torque.
Bring back the 7.3 diesel and obs and not so much damn computer shit that makes them 90k fn dollars. Us blue collar farm boys construction workers not owners would like new trucks and need them but can't fn afford them. I hate seeing new trucks not used for trucking.
sadly they couldn't bring it back even if they wanted to, it's an old design and just isn't efficient enough for todays industry standards, not to mention having to add so many more emissions equipment items like DEF and EGR coolers they had to start with a clean sheet design with the 6.0 power stroke which sadly had lot's of weak points from the factory, but is leagues more refined and efficient than the 7.3
Most people who say these things have no idea what they are talking about. Many systems in play for the auto industry are most certainly putting money in the pocket of the GOP. They love their lobbying. They love their tax breaks, and they love rigging the market. If you look into a lot of tech industries you'll see they support the GOP. Do you know our new ac systems in vehicles are because of dupont? Because there are greener ways of doing ac, but they got to be the player in the market. The new systems are actually way more expensive to recharge, but who wins the little guy or the guy that got to rig the game? A lot of people fail to understand it's not a hippie liberal doing most of these tech moves. Why do auto industries shove this new technology into new cars? Because if vehicles became standard and began to stay the same then they don't make money. So they need sell you a new gimmick to get you to buy a new vehicle, they also need these things to break in order to get you back in the shop right after a warranty expires. To think it's some liberal agenda for everything that happens is laughable and also uneducated.
@@smendrickpepperell1179 Shut up troll. Fortune 5 Corporation my ass. If you think "liberal this, liberal that" or even in "republican this republican that" you're an uneducated shit stain. Neither side is on your side and are only in it for themselves to continue the status quo, making money for corporations that fund their re-election campaigns.
@@JosephArata , I've got to agree with you, he probably doesn't know what a liberal or conservative really is. We're experiencing the sound of shit emanating from another Facebook Trumpturd, troll. I thought that we were commenting on a New Ford engine, here.
The 7.3 PSD is dead and is never coming back, I think the sooner people finally accept that the better. One reason it was as reliable as it was is because it was such a big engine making such little power and torque. The V10 in my F250 makes more power and torque than a 7.3 and will run well past 500k miles no problem. And don't get started on the whole "diesel engines last a million miles with hardly any maintenance" because I've owned 7.3 PSD trucks and have been through the headaches of injectors, glow plugs, glow plug harnesses, glow plug relays, crank position sensors, and every other thing that goes wrong by the time you've got even just 200k miles on it (I haven't kept one past ~360k miles because they were such money pits). I've only got 150k on my gasser right now and, other than worse MPG than diesel, it's MORE reliable and cheaper to maintain (7 quarts of oil is a whole lot cheaper than 15, $3 oil filter vs $10 with most diesels being substantially more than a 7.3 filter, 30k-60k miles to a fuel filter vs 15k, etc.). Personally, I wish they'd quit the numbers race on the newer diesels and focus on making them reliable and economical. Even with a modern gasser you're pushing CDL territory for GCWR and modern diesels are ridiculously powerful but need to be pushed regularly or the emissions systems get clogged up and fail.
The 2V 5.4s were bulletproof if you knew how to work a torque wrench, the 3V engines were pretty much a failure though. Good head flow but you really should just block off the VCT entirely and have it tuned to run without. You'll lose torque and power down low but it's worth it.
@@pickledcottoncandy My 2V 6.8 is only at 152k miles and runs like new, from what I've seen of them in fleet use (part of why I bought one) they'll run 600k+ no problem.
@@FoxcastMedia in Australia we had pushrods until 2003. Indeed we had a factory 346 8.2 for the falcon T3. 250kw factory. Was limited edition hand built
The GM designed big block of 8.0 liters, not the old 8.1 liter, was never installed in any GM trucks but Freightliner uses it in school buses that want to run on clean, cheap propane LPG. There are 2 companies building the GM 8.0 propane engine for buses and about 4 companies using them for power plants and industrial use, such as the very big forklifts that lift 15,000 pounds. Buy the 8.0 liter bare block from Jegs for just $902. It's designed to take a 4.75 inch crank and it has a 4.27 inch bore. Brian Thomson built and developed the first 6 engines under contract to GM for the 5500, 6500 and 7500 medium duty trucks, but GM stopped making the trucks after the 2010 models just when the engine finished development. It got 518 lbs feet of torque at 1800 RPM on gasoline with a 10 to one compression ratio. On propane they have about 525 lbs feet in the school buses.
Bumpside, dentside, anything from 67-79, though I am partial to the 67-72 highboy. Hope it will be available as a crate engine and the aftermarket gets behind it.
Yep very true and my 88 F250 with the 460 is still going with almost 500k on it, and a 3 speed C6 automatic transmission that's never had any issues either....just regular maintenance and transmission service every 30-35k.
I bet the pushrod ford guys are going nuts, over this 7.3. After market companies, already working on motor mods. I can see this motor going in foxbodies, in near futures. It's a big block beast.
I’m real excited to see the power numbers. Looks like a keeper. I love the high tech ecoboosts and diesels but a modern pushrod V8 sounds right up my alley. Super simple grunt maker.
There was a rumor of a 7.0L that Roush were doing the heads for. The talks were that this 7.0L was going to be put in a special edition mustang like a new boss,and or mach. Only time will tell.
Kaleb I agree with you up to this point . No one knows what the SVT team has in mind for us. No a normal GT but in a Cobra??!!??? Ummm just something to think about . Man I hope Ford watches your channel.
Hey I watched the video till the end. Ford Kaleb need a 7.3 to put in his Fox body mustang. Santa Ford Kaleb had been a real good man get him a 7.3 for his channel. Thank you in advance for the gift.
Saw a Ford engineer interviewed and he said they went pushrod because of the low end torque characteristics being much lower in the rpm range as compared to an ohc engine.
they went back to the 460,as they never,blew up,had gobs of torque,cheap to build.i bought a 1986 460,pulled the heads,still had hown marks in the bores,they do no work..id rather pay for fuel,than 2 weeks off work & a 5k bill.plus,diesels are too hard to be green..no one wants to build them,epa wants them banned..
The variable valve timing in the Dodge and GM motors is a cam phaser which is part of the cam GEAR. The lifters youre talking about is the displacement on demand aka AFM where it shuts down half the cylinders to run as a V4.
Good thing too IMO. One cam phaser means that if it does go bad, you only have to worry about the one. Compared to a SOHC or DOHC engine that might utilize 2-4 of them.
@@OnTheRocks71 Just hope that they put in a "failsafe" mode where it locks the cam gear in place when, not if, it fails so you still have a functioning engine unlike so many 3V 5.4s out there... As far as displacement on demand, GM has had a ton of issues with theirs. I'd rather pay a little extra in gas than deal with repair bills.
“Commercial use”... if this tells me anything it’s that these motors will be extremely detuned from the factory. Bad thing is even if these end up in the wrecking yards it’ll be a few years before prices come down to where a swap will be affordable.
LS has been a huge engine for GM so I imagine this one will be a big hit even tho it's huge and there's no smaller version to directly compete with LS as the swap engine. I do wish people would stop putting them in mustangs. To me it's sacrilegious but whatever to each their own
It's just another FORD design for the GM guys to copy their homework off of.....kinda like using the Fox platform, the 9", the complete 351W engine design in the N.A.S.C.A.R. circuit, the FORD toploader 4 speed that's also in the same circuit. Also one of the FORD engineers on a certain SVT forum says it's making 440~460HP for the Superduty.
@@duhastmech oh I'm sorry did I strike a nerve? The 9" is a third member drop out and the 14bolt is a complete axle. There is no possible way that you can tell me that the third bearing in the 9" was going to forever be Ford's design, yes it came first but was the only possible way to make the ring and pinion stronger. As for engine design I'm confident Ford built one of the first pushrod engines so they would all in some way use his design I will give you that. Just because they have been copied in the past doesn't mean that they didn't copy gm this time. Ford has been building shitty overhead cam engines in both big and little vehicles for 15+ years now and have invested in the disign through manufacturing and tooling but gm has opted for perfecting the pushrod engine. Now that Ford is having it's guts pulled out from overhead cam issues in trucks that aren't that old they have decided (in a very very short period of time, comparative to how long the overhead cam engine has been out) to build a completely "new cam in block" design that some how got designed and retooled in manufacturing to be in production in such a short period of time makes one think they used a current platform to start from. I can tell your a Ford guy so what I'm going to say next will pull all your strings but the LS based gm engine is the best current v8 platform that is made and unfortunately for you I think you know that. If ford can improve on it's design then I can commend them for it, however it's hard to believe that Ford has designed and built a pushrod engine in 2-3 years that will compete with a company that has spent the last 30+ years perfecting the pushrod engine without using some of those already perfected design.
@@wheelitzr2 Wow, you're very condescending for someone who thinks that the entire design of the LS engine belongs to General Motors. Why don't you read more or do some research before trying that to other people in the future.
@@duhastmech hahaha 😂 🤣 you Ford guys think you own all of the innovations in the car industry. You obviously didn't read my comment or it would have made more sense. I'm sorry that your butt hurt from my comment but just because you like ford more than Chevy doesn't make you correct. I'm a Chevy guy only because I worked on them and understand general motors way of doing things, my grandpa has a 1993 mustang GT that I've worked on plenty of times and hoping to get when the time comes, and would consider buying a new Ford truck, but I would never call myself a Ford guy because Ford guys are way overboard about thinking every single innovation in the industry was stolen from Ford. The LS based v8 engines are the best and longest lasting v8 in current production, Ford would be STUPID to not use some of that technology. Name one gas v8 cam in block engine that Ford has been designing or building for the past 10 years and I will agree that Ford designed everything about this 7.3l engine.
Variable can timing is done with the cam sprocket having oil vanes in them. The variable displacement uses lifters that collapse and fail to actuate the valves.
It makes sense really. The big aspect they keep pushing is the compactness of the design. There is no large displacement engine offered by Ford that slots into an often tight access, Kodiak/Topkick, ambulance or van style chassis. The V-10 is powerful, but very large and complex (typical modular). The 6.7L diesel is powerful and high tech, but its expensive, large due to being turbocharged and smog reg'd and some people don't want diesel. Smaller engines like the Eco Boost work way outside of their efficiency range when asked to make big enough power to meet the needs of commercial applications. Add to that the fact that nobody else is doing a lazy, large displacement engine anymore, and its a no brainer. GM dropped the 454/502 and the Ram pushrod V-10 was last seen 15 years ago..... Bet we see +7.0L Hemi and LS engines soon as a response, if not entirely new engines to compete, for that matter.
Yes, but that is still a "smallblock" based engine. You can only stretch a block design so far before thermal and dynamic stresses start to affect longevity. Hence the larger bore spacing and physical size of the bigblock engines. You can have both engines displacing 7.0L but one is working its various support systems and structures much harder than the other. This new engine has bore spacing similar to the old bigblocks so it can cool its cylinders better, retain closer to perfect tolerances and be making commercial level power while only moderately stressed.
@@91jonbob The LS7 is not a truck engine, either. Even in an old man's Corvette that's driven a few Sundays out of the year they tend to drop valves before you even get 20k miles on them so imagine what would happen when you actually run the engine closer to its potential. Big displacement is nothing new, and this engine really isn't anything new either. Ford needs a replacement for the V10 which has served them so well for so many years and hopefully this is it, the small bore of the V10 was always its achilles heel.
@@matthewq4b ahh yes, because they used a Y block. much different than starting with push rod, going DOHC and acting like it's the bees knees then switching back to push rod as if it's innovative.
Traditional design V8 makes total sense. Dodge and Chevy have been improving their designs decades. I’m glad to see ford design a simple work horse of an engine with technology in the right spots
Bro. One set of letters explains why Ford is back to a traditional engine. You might have heard about it. It's called an LS and it goes in one godly number of vehicles. The fact is that Ford is probably tired of hearing about LS powered (insert application). When someone buys a car and immediately swaps a low mileage LS engine in it, you KNOW you have a problem.
Duel alternators are common in larger trucks that tend to haul large trailers and RV's that, while hitched up put an added demand on the trucks charging system. Your welcome.
Been around a while, especially on ambulance package vehicles. I'd actually like to do dual alternators on my V10 F250 to charge a separate battery for my stereo and camping stuff.
Funny thing how ford just realized how cheaper and more economic and ergonomic cam in block motors are. I cant wait to have a good experience with this motor vs the 6.6L gas v8 gm is rolling out
I have a 2-door 86 Mercury Grand marquis, a 4-door 85 Mercury Grand Marquis and a 85 F250 4X4 with a BW T-19B trans and BW13-45 t-case. Either of these are absolutely SCREAMING for the GODZILLA 7.3 engine and even keeping it in stock form would be a SEVERE upgrade for any of my 3 vehicles. Every time I tell someone I’m looking to put a 7.3 in one of my cars or my truck, they all assume I’m talking about the 7.3 PowerStroke diesel which would be a bad idea for my truck but, an extreme amount of fab work on either of the two cars.
First thing I noticed is engineers FINALLY put the oil filter by the oil pan sump so it is easy to get to, and doesn't drain oil all over 10 different components. This engine could get very interesting! Large displacement and it isn't so wide that you will have to cut inner fenders etc to make it fit.
@@whozaskin3639 As reliable as the day is long but it took all day to get going and horrible fuel economy. I'd rather buy the 4 cylinder, still a strong engine (no matter what year of 2.3 or 2.5) but better mileage and equally as bad acceleration.
@@406Steven the Vulcan isn't what I'd call reliable, all things considered. It never held a candle to the vg30, or the Toyota 3.0. The 2.3/2.5 ford got slaughtered by the 22re and the z24/k24. It's truly sad that America didn't take a hint from the venerable mid 80s-90s Toyota and Nissan trucks. What's truly depressing is that now the Frontier and Tacoma have gone the way of American women.... expensive, fat, hungry, less capable in the real world, and hard to understand.
So what's this one going to get the typewriter ticking, self destructing spark plugs, head gasket going before 30,000 miles or all round bad design like the 3v 5.4.
Ok, guys, here are the facts. Ford might have waited until the new GM 6.6 ( 400.697 cubic inches) gas engine was introduced because the GM engine, also cast iron block with aluminum heads....is very high compression ratio at 10.8 to one. Ford has had lower than GM engines used for trucks over the years, only 9 to one even on the 5.4 V8 and the 6.8 V10. The GM engines had at least 9.3 to one, with all the newer LS engines at least 10.5 or more. Ford has lost power because of this CR that has been too low for over a decade. You get better MPG and low end torque with a higher CR. Now, Ford probably did the same with this new design 7.3. If i'm guessing based on Ford history, the new 7.3 will only have a CR of maybe 9.2 to one. This means that the new 6.6 GM with 464 lbs feet of torque at 4000 RPM will only be a bit lower on torque than the Ford 7.3. Torque is everything especially on a heavy truck engine to be used in the Class 7 F650 and F750 trucks and motorhome chassis. Here's my best guess, the 7.3 will have no more than 515 lbs feet of torque in 87 octane gas but it will max out at about 2500 RPM and drop upwards of that. SECRET-All GM engines have power ratings at 93 octane and full synthetic oil. The new 6.6 GM has the power ratings on regular 87 octane gas, much different than car engine testing. Will Ford cheat and only give out power ratings on premium 91 octane or 93 octane Super Premium gas? Here's my point, GM published the HP and torque figures on all grades of gasoline, propane and CNG. They boosted the power rating from 295 lbs feet of torque on a 4.3 V6 up to 325 lbs feet by using E85 gas. Granted, the V6 from 2 years ago had a CR of 10.5 to one, so the engine computer can advance to engine timing to take advantage of the much higher octane E85. Pure ethanol has an octane of 99.5 R+M, real world not fairyland numbers. E85 octane is about 95. But at hotter temps, the alcohol cools the valves, and the computers run the fuel mixture a bit richer because of the lower BTU of alcohol. So, if you run 93 octane Super Premium gas in the GM 6.6, the 401 HP and 464 torque will jump up. Expect an increase in torque of about 6 percent or 492 lbs feet and 425 HP on the GM 6.6 on 93 octane. Add another 2 percent to those figures if they test it on E85 which means 433 HP and 502 lbs feet of torque. Guys, let's honest here, im basing the power figures on GM published number, not Fan Boy numbers. By the way i was invited to join the SAE in 1988 based on my work developing full synthetic oils. Our fleet here in Toronto was chosen by Shell to test semi syndrome, full synthetic and reclaimed engine oils. The tests were secret ( we didn't know which oil we were testing) lasted for 300,000 km which is 186,000 miles. Most of the taxicabs were V8 and mostly hardcore city driving, so that 300,000 figure is like 1/2 million highway miles. We begged Shell to run the tests longer, such as 5 years and the 750,000 km we put on them in the 5 years, before we sold them in great condition because we used propane which means almost no engine wear. We had 425 cars in the fleet and only 50 of them used gasoline, the other 375 used 105 octane propane. GM used to give us brand new engines to trade for a 3 year old engine on propane, so they could tear them down. GM paid for our labour costs and all the oil, filters etc. Everyone learned a great deal of info from our test fleet. We did tire testing too for two different tire makers.
Great for longevity but that was it. Sucked at power. And when you suck at power you suck at towing. A lot of 7.3 guys will never get how that works though.
Glad to see They're bringing back something that can pound the ground again! 6 bolt mains, variable cam timing, skirt squirters, long intake runners, iron block, what's not to like?? Can't wait to see what the aftermarket entails for it!
makes me sad just got a f250 with the 6.2 now a 7.3 coming soon? wow maybe a trade in my future dont get my wrong i love the power of the 6.2 but as Tim Allen says " more power" ... is allways a good thing
Don't be people have been getting long life out of those engines. See how these engines do first same with the 10 speed. The 6.2 and 6 speed are still the base powertrain.
Don't worry. First model years always have issues and, like chad said, the power rating won't be that impressive. This is an engine made to be a smart man's diesel, it won't be a racecar but you don't buy a truck to go fast. It should make a boatload of torque and last well but the 6.2 is a solid engine and has been around long enough to be worked out and proven to be reliable.
@@406Steven not sure if all the 6.2 have the same quiwrks as mine i have 4200 miles now it has a ticking noise coming from the passenger side of the engine especially when cold the dealer told me it's normal injector noises i dont know to me it sounds like valve rattles at times
The reason the 6.2l modular isnt as popular a swap as a coyote is because of the size. That engine just doesn't fit in anything besides a truck with a huge engine bay. It was mentioned that this is narrower than a 6.2l and shorter than a 6.8l v10. With dimensions like that it should fit into something like a crown vic and probably some mustang platforms. I wouldn't be shocked to see a limited run of 7.3l mustang's come out of the factory at some point, maybe throwing the demon off the pedestal.
The big-block V8 has been around since 1968 in displacements from 385ci up to 460ci (7.5 liters). I had a 460 in a 1973 Thunderbird and worked on dozens of them in the F-350s and the Super Duty RVs. It's a beast of a motor, but the bottom end wasn't too strong with 2-bolt mains. I would love to see this engine with the 6-bolt mains from the modular V8s and 3 or 4 valve heads. The EEC4 EFI motors were very well-behaved compared to the 4bbl carbs, so I'm curious to see what the next gen EFI would do for performance.
As a retired fleet management mechanic of a large southeastern city, a cam in block engine of conventional design with port fuel injection is the height of simplicity. Most mechanics understand this type of design and it will make repair and maintenance of these engines a breeze. Ford went with a 60 degree "V" design in the iron block versus the more usual and wider 90 degree "V" design of most American made V8 engines, including all of Ford's past V8s. This 60* block design along with the narrower cylinder heads, (because they don't contain the camshafts) created the narrower engine configuration, which besides the cooling advantages may make it a candidate for installation in more types of vehicles. From what I have seen, the valves, (if maybe just the exhaust valves), may be slightly canted in the cylinder heads, but not radically, maintaining a mostly inline configuration of the roller bearing rocker arms arranged on "pedestal" mounts. From the views that are available, these heads look like they may flow pretty well. The performance specs should be pretty impressive when Ford releases them. As an old timer that has always bled Ford Blue, this is great news. A new push-rod, big displacement Ford engine? I was blindsided by the news. As said, the performance market can't wait to get their hands on this thing and as a matter of fact, I wouldn't mind either. A new 7.3 in my 67 Mustang or my 93 F-150?
I have a 15 lml duramax....however gm is introducing a new 6.6 with direct injection....and curious how they solved the dry intake issue with DI.....if this thing proves to be a strong engine, and has sequential fuel injection....i might as well get into one...
Do I need to install a transmission oil cooler on the 7.3 Gas motor in the 2022 F250? The heat of the tranny fluid of the 10 speed is really high compared to anything I have ever driven…
Ford has a few legendary engines under their belt. But I won't hold my breath until this one proves to be one of them. Let's not all forget, that there is a generational gap of technologies here, and there will be growing pains. I predict this will be an engine that throws out big numbers and will be very capable, but be riddled with a lot of small failures that will have to be re-engineered out over time.
It's more profitable, cheaper to manafacture and will be big in the truck market...Think of the possibilities, street, drag, baja, rock crawling, restomods, OBS and Bronco retrofit! That engine was designed for added boost and small enough to fit into everything!!!
7.3 L V8 and durable design. Can this be put into a sport car? It looks like a beast. Your description is great even without a lot of charts or graphics. Please post more about cars.
Can someone tell me , is that configured with two alternators ? I saw some other Google images like that too . Never thought I'd see that as a stock option though ???
The only reason it is a pushrod is because of the size nothing more! A dohc 7.3 would be way to big to fit in anything! If that 7.3 was a dohc then it would make shit tons more power everywhere in its powerband than the pushrod 7.3 would in the high or low end rpms! But I'am glad ford put something with alot of cubic inches back in a vehicle for sure👍
Ford used to have a 534 CI truck engine back in the 70's. This engine was never used in performance cars. I predict this new engine will remain a truck engine and that's it. Consider that a 302 Coyote craps all over the 427 CI Cobra Jets from back in the day.
Tfl did a video on the new 7.3 with a ford engineer. He didn’t give exact specs but said it will between the 6.2 gas and the Diesel engine in terms of power numbers
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A lot of "simple" tech. No turbos, no high pressure fuel pumps or direct injection, no timing chains stretched all over the front with a bunch of tensioners. This thing should run forever.
Cool , Ford goes back to what worked really well. Did'nt Chevy stay with this tech all along ?
@@bill3641 They have modernized them. They are still cam in block push rod motors but the new ones have VVT with them and lots of modern tech. Pushrod motors arent very good for Racecars since OHC Motors can rev higher faster but still overall super reliable motors.
@@bill3641 One went broke....
Hmm. Still driving my 95 cclb 4x4 with a 460. 300k miles. When it doesn't run right I buy plugs and wires. Maybe 2020 I'll get a new truck.
@@Al-yc4cn Ah yes , but our leaders brought it back to life. lol
GM owner here, always love seeing old tech being brought back around. There's something to be said about 'easy to work on', that much is for certain.
These engines make more sense because $8000 repair bills are rediculous.
100% true!!!! I love my diesel but my next truck will be a gasser due to on the EPA crap. I’ve deleted everything but there will be a day in the future the bill will be 10k or so. I’ll wait a few years to see how the 7.3 does.
what you dont like doc, dpf, scr, egr four letter words?
@Gastón Astore It's costing fleets millions. CNG didn't help HD. I am hoping gas helps med duty.
Just dont buy a Powerstroke and you wont have huge repair bills.
Bring it! I love big blocks and there is little in this world that annoys me more than being behind a diesel. They smell absolutely horrible...especially the newer ones.
I'm a Ford guy and a push-rod fan, so I am totally happy with this.
It's a great thing Ford is keeping the V8 alive. It would be amazing to see this engine fit and work in a Mustang.
Gotta try EcoBoost! You will be a believer. Fords been doing great turbo engines since 80s.
@@Davido50 no Eco trash is trash stop trying to push that on everybody there's no point for an ecoboost engine to exist every year had dreams of putting an EcoBoost in their no everybody dreams of putting a big V8 under the hood
Another 4 stroke right, s ther a 2 stroke option?
Jonathan Keith.my thoughts exactly.i just love pushrod engines.im hopin ford start building pushrod small blocks
It’s made in Windsor Canada .
I delivered the automation equipment for the production line to build the engine
You say Windsor. I say "The most perfect location to manufacture a motor in the world."
You want a cookie??
assembled in canada! cheap labor and no state taxes, Just the employee lose half of his/her pay check.....lol
design of the engine also seems european. but lets just keep that our gay little secret
I want a cookie.
I would like to see this engine in the new Bronco.
jmf80 sadly the bronco is most likely gonna be based on the ranger, and that 7.3 would break that truck in half as soon as you tap the gas. I don’t know why fords making them like that though, most of the bronco lovers are fans of the f-150 based models, and want it to be a bigger truck, and if it was f-150 based you know damn well ford would squeeze that big sumbitch in one.
im going to have to put one into my 90 bronco
@@ryanpaton2242 the ranger has an actual frame. Itd handle way more than this pushrod engine puts out stock lol.
@@chasenelson6552 I'll probably put one in my 94 bronco
You’d be lucky if it came with a v6. Anything bigger than that isn’t realistic
1. I can't believe Ford is doing a new pushrod engine.
2. We may not know how much power it will make but we know it will sound epic!
Im all for this New motor but the 4.6 was not a mistake.
Smooth, torquey and fuel efficient. The pushrod motors cant hold a candle to how smooth a well sorted OHC V8 is....you cant even feel it running.
@@twoeightythreez I hear you but i like the shake lumpty lump too!
@@GearHead704 i love that as well but for the car I commute over 100 miles daily in Ill take the 4.6 anyday!
Save the lumpety-lump for the weekend car :)
@@twoeightythreez I dunno, the GM small block LS's and LT's are fine motors that perform great, can handle big power, and have nice meaty tq down low while smaller OHC see their gains higher up in the rev range. For a Super Duty, box truck, shuttle bus, etc. this engine makes a lot of sense. It will also be easier to package as it will be dimensionally smaller. Plus with the huge ratio spread of the 10-speed auto it will get to play happily where it makes its power. Like a big rig gasser. This will be an excellent option for those that don't want to shell out the extra cash for a powerstroke, either up front or in maintenance.
@@twoeightythreez agreed. My daily beater is a VW LOL
I'm not a Ford guy by any means but I am actually pumped about this engine. I can't wait to see it put into various project vehicles and whatnot.
Ford is tired of those LS swaps.
Brent Richards I see zero LS swaps round my way bud. Lol
Me too
U sucks
@@Quest4Unknown you aren't popping any hoods then.
Todd Nansel cool story man. That’s all I see on the drag strip, juss some good ole LS swaps . Along with 95 percent of all the vehicles out there being GM vehicles.
The ‘Godzilla’ namesake should only apply to Japanese products. (Example: Nismo GTR) In this case may I suggest a moniker for this new engine, something like Hulk or King Kong?!!
Yep, Hulk!😀 Don't want a GTR.☺
This is a Godzilla killer
Well you know how Godzilla was created as an expression of how Japanese people felt against Nuclear weapons ? So here are some naming options for this engine
The atom collider
The Atom
Big Boy
City leveler
BIG FU*$ING NUKE
The Nuke
Literally little Tokyo
The Manhattan engine
Einstein's V8
Godzilla's Father
The American
The Bomber
The American bomber
The V8 of Uranium 238
The HeroshiWho?
Just to name a few
Put it in a foxbody
Would it fit?
@@moonbeamskies3346 Bet they could make it fit :)
It should fit, I've seen a 521 in a foxbody before
Yes. It will definitely fit. Depending on your budget.....you can already buy a 4 bolt main all aluminum(block too), all forged shortblock direct from ford or American Muscle for 6500.00. It is 427 cubic inches(almost 7.3 liters). Put a set of kasse p38 heads, dominator carb, and a hydraulic cam in it. Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords tested this exact combo and it made 749.7 horsepower and atleast 575 lb/ft of torque. The heads from kasse are 2550.00. Cam 500.00 Carb 750.00 So around 12,000 if you add in all the small bits i left out.
Why the 302 with a b cam is the best motor ever in the universe
446 CID. Bolts up to the 10 speed tranny. Dimensionally small. Cam in block with cross bolted steel crank. Under stressed. This could be very interesting.
Surely sounds like an LS... ya know since 1998 lol
Is there any more specs available like bore stroke rod leignth etc... Cross bolt main... Just like my 427 FORD... Not like the weak a•• 427 Chevy with the flimsey bottom end... You remember... The engine that won LeMans
I can’t wait till someone gets ahold of one and puts a turbo on it! Diesel Killer!!!
Corey Harvey hmm an LS sure sounds like..oh what’s that? The Windsor that came way before it
Ford 7.3l Gas 425hp 505lbs?
This would be a great engine swap for a Fox Body or for an old F100.
My thoughts exactly
@@FoxcastMedia Oh yeah and I'm sure it'll outlast any EcoBoost engine as well mate.
@Gray That's true mate.
Not really, you’d be better off with an old 460 and some Kaase heads.
There is nothing special about this 7.3, it’s just a pushrod, in-line valve wedge engine with cylinder deactivation and a cam phaser.
good luck fitting it in a foxbody
Skirted iron y-block , 6 bolt main , in block billet camshaft , coil near plug reluctor ignition , roller lifters and pushrods . Hmmmm I wonder why that sounds familiar . It sounds like the formula for an LS . Lol I guess if you can't beat them join them .
Wait you mean what Chevy did way back when they designed the sbc after Ford's windsor?
You mean fords terrible airflow?
Einstein I think the small block Chevy was design before the small block Ford because they were still milk in the old flat head oh are you talking about the Y junk block I know my history 55 when the Chevy block was built last year the Flathead was 54 so what are you talkin about
Ford made a 6 bolt skirted block back in the 60s 40 years before chev made a 6 bolt block seriously chev guys have no clue
If you look at the old fe engine the ls copied it
Watched a video where a Ford engineer said the power of the 7.3 is about half way between the 6.2 gas and the 6.7 diesel..if my math is right that is somewhere around 650 ft. lbs. of torque.
Yes sir, I saw the same, should be a monster
your looking about 400 to 450 hp and 500 to 550 ft/lbs
@@moparjr89 thats very believeable. No way in hell its gonna make 650ft/lbs at the crank.. No way. 550 would be the top end..
@@moparjr89
Definitely at 550- 600 ish torque. How about 500+ HP.
I'm guessing 450hp and a nice 505tq
Bring back the 7.3 diesel and obs and not so much damn computer shit that makes them 90k fn dollars. Us blue collar farm boys construction workers not owners would like new trucks and need them but can't fn afford them. I hate seeing new trucks not used for trucking.
sadly they couldn't bring it back even if they wanted to, it's an old design and just isn't efficient enough for todays industry standards, not to mention having to add so many more emissions equipment items like DEF and EGR coolers
they had to start with a clean sheet design with the 6.0 power stroke which sadly had lot's of weak points from the factory, but is leagues more refined and efficient than the 7.3
Most people who say these things have no idea what they are talking about. Many systems in play for the auto industry are most certainly putting money in the pocket of the GOP. They love their lobbying. They love their tax breaks, and they love rigging the market. If you look into a lot of tech industries you'll see they support the GOP. Do you know our new ac systems in vehicles are because of dupont? Because there are greener ways of doing ac, but they got to be the player in the market. The new systems are actually way more expensive to recharge, but who wins the little guy or the guy that got to rig the game? A lot of people fail to understand it's not a hippie liberal doing most of these tech moves. Why do auto industries shove this new technology into new cars? Because if vehicles became standard and began to stay the same then they don't make money. So they need sell you a new gimmick to get you to buy a new vehicle, they also need these things to break in order to get you back in the shop right after a warranty expires. To think it's some liberal agenda for everything that happens is laughable and also uneducated.
@@smendrickpepperell1179 Shut up troll. Fortune 5 Corporation my ass. If you think "liberal this, liberal that" or even in "republican this republican that" you're an uneducated shit stain. Neither side is on your side and are only in it for themselves to continue the status quo, making money for corporations that fund their re-election campaigns.
@@JosephArata ,
I've got to agree with you, he probably doesn't know what a liberal or conservative really is. We're experiencing the sound of shit emanating from another Facebook Trumpturd, troll. I thought that we were commenting on a New Ford engine, here.
The 7.3 PSD is dead and is never coming back, I think the sooner people finally accept that the better. One reason it was as reliable as it was is because it was such a big engine making such little power and torque. The V10 in my F250 makes more power and torque than a 7.3 and will run well past 500k miles no problem. And don't get started on the whole "diesel engines last a million miles with hardly any maintenance" because I've owned 7.3 PSD trucks and have been through the headaches of injectors, glow plugs, glow plug harnesses, glow plug relays, crank position sensors, and every other thing that goes wrong by the time you've got even just 200k miles on it (I haven't kept one past ~360k miles because they were such money pits). I've only got 150k on my gasser right now and, other than worse MPG than diesel, it's MORE reliable and cheaper to maintain (7 quarts of oil is a whole lot cheaper than 15, $3 oil filter vs $10 with most diesels being substantially more than a 7.3 filter, 30k-60k miles to a fuel filter vs 15k, etc.). Personally, I wish they'd quit the numbers race on the newer diesels and focus on making them reliable and economical. Even with a modern gasser you're pushing CDL territory for GCWR and modern diesels are ridiculously powerful but need to be pushed regularly or the emissions systems get clogged up and fail.
I'm pretty sure the last year Ford put a push rod engine in one of their vehicles was 2001 and that was in the Explorer that had the 5.0 V8.
I had a 3L Vulcan pushrod in a 2007 Taurus rental. They used it through 2008 in the Ranger as well.
Yes sir, I mis-spoke
Finally Ford went back to an old school proven truck power plant design. Before the 5.4 Ford made bullet proof truck engines.
The 2V 5.4s were bulletproof if you knew how to work a torque wrench, the 3V engines were pretty much a failure though. Good head flow but you really should just block off the VCT entirely and have it tuned to run without. You'll lose torque and power down low but it's worth it.
@@406Steven my 2v still runs great. No issues whatsoever.
@@pickledcottoncandy My 2V 6.8 is only at 152k miles and runs like new, from what I've seen of them in fleet use (part of why I bought one) they'll run 600k+ no problem.
@@406Steven that's awesome. My 5.4 just rolled 200k.
Old school351 for me and shes over 200k without rebuild has lots of power left
Small nit-pick... last year of the pushrod motor was actually like 2001 with the 5.0L Explorers and Mountaineers.
Yup, you are 100% right, I actually had an '01 V8 Explorer so I really fail at life!
@@FoxcastMedia in Australia we had pushrods until 2003. Indeed we had a factory 346 8.2 for the falcon T3. 250kw factory. Was limited edition hand built
Technically the 4.2 v6 was the last pushrod engine Ford used till 2008.
You're exactly right, I completely forgot about that V6 that was installed in the F150s.
The 3.0 was around till '08.
I bet that a truck with that engine will pass everything but a gas station
The GM designed big block of 8.0 liters, not the old 8.1 liter, was never installed in any GM trucks but Freightliner uses it in school buses that want to run on clean, cheap propane LPG. There are 2 companies building the GM 8.0 propane engine for buses and about 4 companies using them for power plants and industrial use, such as the very big forklifts that lift 15,000 pounds. Buy the 8.0 liter bare block from Jegs for just $902. It's designed to take a 4.75 inch crank and it has a 4.27 inch bore. Brian Thomson built and developed the first 6 engines under contract to GM for the 5500, 6500 and 7500 medium duty trucks, but GM stopped making the trucks after the 2010 models just when the engine finished development. It got 518 lbs feet of torque at 1800 RPM on gasoline with a 10 to one compression ratio. On propane they have about 525 lbs feet in the school buses.
7.3 in a Dentside pickup 😈😏
Oh hell yeah!
Would personally like to stick one in a 69 or 70 F-100
@@jacksonstorm6395 me too just ain't got one 😑
@@FoxcastMedia didn't know if you seen this yet. ruclips.net/video/2FtNlfAbc2w/видео.html
Bumpside, dentside, anything from 67-79, though I am partial to the 67-72 highboy. Hope it will be available as a crate engine and the aftermarket gets behind it.
I like it!
But, is this not an admission that the EcoBoosts aren't suitable for extended heavy usage?
I will be keeping tabs on the local salvage yards, first SD that comes in with this engine, will be a donor for the 70 maverick.
I would like it in a dentside f100 shortbed
just put 400 sbc in it and go racing
The 460 was a beast 7.5 pass everything but the gas station lol 🔴🇺🇸🔧👍
yes
I actually have an 86 f250 with one of this 460 v8’s and this joke is too true
Yep very true and my 88 F250 with the 460 is still going with almost 500k on it, and a 3 speed C6 automatic transmission that's never had any issues either....just regular maintenance and transmission service every 30-35k.
@@wildbill23c i have a video on here cash for clunkers 460 took the longest to blow up super tough engine for sure
My dad had a f250 with a 460. You got have some deep pockets to keep gas in that lol
I bet the pushrod ford guys are going nuts, over this 7.3. After market companies, already working on motor mods. I can see this motor going in foxbodies, in near futures. It's a big block beast.
I’m real excited to see the power numbers. Looks like a keeper. I love the high tech ecoboosts and diesels but a modern pushrod V8 sounds right up my alley. Super simple grunt maker.
The pully system must use around 30% of the HP to move the belt
Vvt is not in the lifter. There is a cam phaser on the front of the cam. You are thinking of displacement on demand (DOD)
Correct, I misspoke.
There was a rumor of a 7.0L that Roush were doing the heads for. The talks were that this 7.0L was going to be put in a special edition mustang like a new boss,and or mach. Only time will tell.
No, roush made an experimental 7.0L engine out of the 6.2L SOHC of the Raptor. They called it project Boss 777.
@@Jimmyxsx Ohh gotcha
Thanks for the info
If u look up 7.0l and ford the closest thing u will find is the 427
@@citan3000 Or 428 which was actually badged as a 7 litre in galaxies in the 60's.
It was a real thing It was a 7.0l v10 they put in a mustang I would love to see it but I doubt they will do it.
Kaleb I agree with you up to this point . No one knows what the SVT team has in mind for us. No a normal GT but in a Cobra??!!??? Ummm just something to think about . Man I hope Ford watches your channel.
Hey I watched the video till the end. Ford Kaleb need a 7.3 to put in his Fox body mustang. Santa Ford Kaleb had been a real good man get him a 7.3 for his channel. Thank you in advance for the gift.
I see this being the next swap engine
Time will tell, but I am definitely in!
Doubt it
@@jamesavery6671 I don't if you are a ford. Person it will be
@@Ls3guy I think its pretty cool but if ford just keeps it in the heavy duties the aftermarket wont be much
Yes for your F250-750
Saw a Ford engineer interviewed and he said they went pushrod because of the low end torque characteristics being much lower in the rpm range as compared to an ohc engine.
You should have mentioned a 2 stroke with low wide ports or at least poppet u-loop scavenging!
they went back to the 460,as they never,blew up,had gobs of torque,cheap to build.i bought a 1986 460,pulled the heads,still had hown marks in the bores,they do no work..id rather pay for fuel,than 2 weeks off work & a 5k bill.plus,diesels are too hard to be green..no one wants to build them,epa wants them banned..
@@phantomwalker8251 worked good at premix but no where near as powerful as a 2 stroke diesel
460 was a great premix engine though
@@phantomwalker8251 offer us a big block DFI 2 stroke based on the 850 rotax, fuck this 4 stroke crap whats the hang up with it?
The variable valve timing in the Dodge and GM motors is a cam phaser which is part of the cam GEAR. The lifters youre talking about is the displacement on demand aka AFM where it shuts down half the cylinders to run as a V4.
Good thing too IMO. One cam phaser means that if it does go bad, you only have to worry about the one. Compared to a SOHC or DOHC engine that might utilize 2-4 of them.
@@OnTheRocks71 Just hope that they put in a "failsafe" mode where it locks the cam gear in place when, not if, it fails so you still have a functioning engine unlike so many 3V 5.4s out there... As far as displacement on demand, GM has had a ton of issues with theirs. I'd rather pay a little extra in gas than deal with repair bills.
Correct, I misspoke
And it helps with the city miles u get per gal too
“Commercial use”... if this tells me anything it’s that these motors will be extremely detuned from the factory. Bad thing is even if these end up in the wrecking yards it’ll be a few years before prices come down to where a swap will be affordable.
Hey man that’s how it goes
The 460's were detuned for insurance purposes so nothing new there.
why does it look like there are 2 alternators on this thing? Or is that common on these type of motors
My 7.3 diesel came with 2 alternators form the factory the ambulance package to take care of all your power needs
LS has been a huge engine for GM so I imagine this one will be a big hit even tho it's huge and there's no smaller version to directly compete with LS as the swap engine. I do wish people would stop putting them in mustangs. To me it's sacrilegious but whatever to each their own
So Ford reverse engineered a 6.0 LS engine and turned it into a 7.3?
It's just another FORD design for the GM guys to copy their homework off of.....kinda like using the Fox platform, the 9", the complete 351W engine design in the N.A.S.C.A.R. circuit, the FORD toploader 4 speed that's also in the same circuit.
Also one of the FORD engineers on a certain SVT forum says it's making 440~460HP for the Superduty.
@@duhastmech oh I'm sorry did I strike a nerve? The 9" is a third member drop out and the 14bolt is a complete axle. There is no possible way that you can tell me that the third bearing in the 9" was going to forever be Ford's design, yes it came first but was the only possible way to make the ring and pinion stronger. As for engine design I'm confident Ford built one of the first pushrod engines so they would all in some way use his design I will give you that.
Just because they have been copied in the past doesn't mean that they didn't copy gm this time. Ford has been building shitty overhead cam engines in both big and little vehicles for 15+ years now and have invested in the disign through manufacturing and tooling but gm has opted for perfecting the pushrod engine. Now that Ford is having it's guts pulled out from overhead cam issues in trucks that aren't that old they have decided (in a very very short period of time, comparative to how long the overhead cam engine has been out) to build a completely "new cam in block" design that some how got designed and retooled in manufacturing to be in production in such a short period of time makes one think they used a current platform to start from. I can tell your a Ford guy so what I'm going to say next will pull all your strings but the LS based gm engine is the best current v8 platform that is made and unfortunately for you I think you know that. If ford can improve on it's design then I can commend them for it, however it's hard to believe that Ford has designed and built a pushrod engine in 2-3 years that will compete with a company that has spent the last 30+ years perfecting the pushrod engine without using some of those already perfected design.
@@wheelitzr2 Wow, you're very condescending for someone who thinks that the entire design of the LS engine belongs to General Motors.
Why don't you read more or do some research before trying that to other people in the future.
@@duhastmech hahaha 😂 🤣 you Ford guys think you own all of the innovations in the car industry. You obviously didn't read my comment or it would have made more sense. I'm sorry that your butt hurt from my comment but just because you like ford more than Chevy doesn't make you correct. I'm a Chevy guy only because I worked on them and understand general motors way of doing things, my grandpa has a 1993 mustang GT that I've worked on plenty of times and hoping to get when the time comes, and would consider buying a new Ford truck, but I would never call myself a Ford guy because Ford guys are way overboard about thinking every single innovation in the industry was stolen from Ford. The LS based v8 engines are the best and longest lasting v8 in current production, Ford would be STUPID to not use some of that technology. Name one gas v8 cam in block engine that Ford has been designing or building for the past 10 years and I will agree that Ford designed everything about this 7.3l engine.
Chevy's =trash bro just ask the ppl they used to employ FUCK gm
My class a 1999 RV had the V10, can't wait to see how the new 7.3 turns out.
It's pretty much a move towards more simpler but more durable engine like GMs 8.2 liter workhorse engine there excellent
@paquitos hammer Totally but their built to last like a tank just old tech
Variable can timing is done with the cam sprocket having oil vanes in them. The variable displacement uses lifters that collapse and fail to actuate the valves.
Ford fan boys been bashing the ls for being pushrod then ford drops a pushrod engine and they love it 🤣🤣🤣
Giving old ford HEART TRANSPLANTS IS MY FAVORITE THING TO DO. OOO YAYA. WATCH EM GO.
lukasvan - Ford builds everything better
i got a pushrod ford fe 390 in my 67 galaxie making more power than you bowtie queens know about
Who has been crying?? Since you're already here, on youtube" go to the 9999 LS vs coyote video. Then see who's crying.
Ivan Laney You tell me who’s crying because nobody has mentioned anything about crying lmfao
Ford actually put a 5.0 v8 ohv engine in the ford explorer and mercury version from 1996 to 2001.
It makes sense really.
The big aspect they keep pushing is the compactness of the design. There is no large displacement engine offered by Ford that slots into an often tight access, Kodiak/Topkick, ambulance or van style chassis. The V-10 is powerful, but very large and complex (typical modular). The 6.7L diesel is powerful and high tech, but its expensive, large due to being turbocharged and smog reg'd and some people don't want diesel. Smaller engines like the Eco Boost work way outside of their efficiency range when asked to make big enough power to meet the needs of commercial applications. Add to that the fact that nobody else is doing a lazy, large displacement engine anymore, and its a no brainer. GM dropped the 454/502 and the Ram pushrod V-10 was last seen 15 years ago..... Bet we see +7.0L Hemi and LS engines soon as a response, if not entirely new engines to compete, for that matter.
Have you ever heard of the ls7? 7.0 liters of displacement. They beat Ford to the punch on that one
Yes, but that is still a "smallblock" based engine. You can only stretch a block design so far before thermal and dynamic stresses start to affect longevity. Hence the larger bore spacing and physical size of the bigblock engines. You can have both engines displacing 7.0L but one is working its various support systems and structures much harder than the other. This new engine has bore spacing similar to the old bigblocks so it can cool its cylinders better, retain closer to perfect tolerances and be making commercial level power while only moderately stressed.
@@91jonbob The LS7 is not a truck engine, either. Even in an old man's Corvette that's driven a few Sundays out of the year they tend to drop valves before you even get 20k miles on them so imagine what would happen when you actually run the engine closer to its potential. Big displacement is nothing new, and this engine really isn't anything new either. Ford needs a replacement for the V10 which has served them so well for so many years and hopefully this is it, the small bore of the V10 was always its achilles heel.
I wonder what the compression ratio is and if it is variable??
Damn people this engine has nothing in common with a LS GTFO
It actually has literally everything possible in common with an LS lol that's why I'm excited about it
@@roncook8566 I guess you're another dumbass go watch the video on TFL truck
@@roncook8566 Right? thing looks like a straight copy pasta of a GM big block 454 that has been around since what? 2004?
@@zososldier Oh mean the design they copied from Ford in the first place.......
@@matthewq4b ahh yes, because they used a Y block. much different than starting with push rod, going DOHC and acting like it's the bees knees then switching back to push rod as if it's innovative.
Traditional design V8 makes total sense. Dodge and Chevy have been improving their designs decades. I’m glad to see ford design a simple work horse of an engine with technology in the right spots
Ford wanted a Gas motor that produces like a diesel
that easy
In our dyno facility, we ran this engine with the truck trans attached and it was over 500 lb-ft at the output shaft.
I'm pretty sure fords efi is better than Holley sniper there bud!! Them are an improvement for a carb engine not a port EFI system!
Bro. One set of letters explains why Ford is back to a traditional engine.
You might have heard about it. It's called an LS and it goes in one godly number of vehicles. The fact is that Ford is probably tired of hearing about LS powered (insert application).
When someone buys a car and immediately swaps a low mileage LS engine in it, you KNOW you have a problem.
Chris Harris damn right that's how you piss a Ford guy off put a Chevrolet in it to make it fast
I can't freaking wait till someone stuffs this bad mamma jamma into a Mustang
If u think owners was wrecking crowds before this will definitely take out the whole crowd
Lmao
Have GM putting 4 bangers in their trucks and Ford using big blocks
Okay Why does it have 2 Alternators ?
Duel alternators are common in larger trucks that tend to haul large trailers and RV's that, while hitched up put an added demand on the trucks charging system. Your welcome.
Been around a while, especially on ambulance package vehicles. I'd actually like to do dual alternators on my V10 F250 to charge a separate battery for my stereo and camping stuff.
So they have a 50-50 chance of at least one of those working.
I'm not much of a Ford guy, but am really glad to see this, and I hope they offer it in the Raptor & Mustang.
Funny thing how ford just realized how cheaper and more economic and ergonomic cam in block motors are. I cant wait to have a good experience with this motor vs the 6.6L gas v8 gm is rolling out
I have a 2-door 86 Mercury Grand marquis, a 4-door 85 Mercury Grand Marquis and a 85 F250 4X4 with a BW T-19B trans and BW13-45 t-case. Either of these are absolutely SCREAMING for the GODZILLA 7.3 engine and even keeping it in stock form would be a SEVERE upgrade for any of my 3 vehicles.
Every time I tell someone I’m looking to put a 7.3 in one of my cars or my truck, they all assume I’m talking about the 7.3 PowerStroke diesel which would be a bad idea for my truck but, an extreme amount of fab work on either of the two cars.
Yea a real engine !! Screw those " Little ECOBURST " Engines !
Haha that's good!
Ecoburst!
You DO realize that this is the 21st century?
First thing I noticed is engineers FINALLY put the oil filter by the oil pan sump so it is easy to get to, and doesn't drain oil all over 10 different components. This engine could get very interesting! Large displacement and it isn't so wide that you will have to cut inner fenders etc to make it fit.
7.3 in my 65 Galaxie 😁
My friend is swapping an actual 7.3 Powerstroke into a 64-65 galaxie
David Walker Mom died
at 14.1:1 and 7.3l running around 10:1 compression, you can expect between 450-460lbs/ft of torque. maybe 400hp.
Foxer For Lifer! Foxcast keeps it interesting like always! I love this channel always looking forward to each video! Keep up the hard work brother 💯
Thanks a million bud, vey much appreciated!
7.3 is most likely a marketing decision, because of the popularity of the 7.3 Powerstroke.
Exactly, they did it to catch people's attention, however they could have added .2 more liters and called it a 460 and got a lot of attention too.
For a minute I thought another Powerstroke.
Can not wait to get one of these in a totaled truck and rebuild it. What do you think the pricing on these will be?
Last ford push rod motor was the 3.0 Vulcan in the ranger. In 2011
I was referring to V8s, but yes you are 100% correct
08 was the last year they put the Vulcan in the ranger. The 4.2 was the last pushrod, E150.
Ahh, the ranger Vulcan gas hog that had the acceleration of an escort.
@@whozaskin3639 As reliable as the day is long but it took all day to get going and horrible fuel economy. I'd rather buy the 4 cylinder, still a strong engine (no matter what year of 2.3 or 2.5) but better mileage and equally as bad acceleration.
@@406Steven the Vulcan isn't what I'd call reliable, all things considered. It never held a candle to the vg30, or the Toyota 3.0.
The 2.3/2.5 ford got slaughtered by the 22re and the z24/k24.
It's truly sad that America didn't take a hint from the venerable mid 80s-90s Toyota and Nissan trucks.
What's truly depressing is that now the Frontier and Tacoma have gone the way of American women.... expensive, fat, hungry, less capable in the real world, and hard to understand.
So what's this one going to get the typewriter ticking, self destructing spark plugs, head gasket going before 30,000 miles or all round bad design like the 3v 5.4.
Ok, guys, here are the facts. Ford might have waited until the new GM 6.6 ( 400.697 cubic inches) gas engine was introduced because the GM engine, also cast iron block with aluminum heads....is very high compression ratio at 10.8 to one. Ford has had lower than GM engines used for trucks over the years, only 9 to one even on the 5.4 V8 and the 6.8 V10. The GM engines had at least 9.3 to one, with all the newer LS engines at least 10.5 or more. Ford has lost power because of this CR that has been too low for over a decade. You get better MPG and low end torque with a higher CR. Now, Ford probably did the same with this new design 7.3. If i'm guessing based on Ford history, the new 7.3 will only have a CR of maybe 9.2 to one. This means that the new 6.6 GM with 464 lbs feet of torque at 4000 RPM will only be a bit lower on torque than the Ford 7.3. Torque is everything especially on a heavy truck engine to be used in the Class 7 F650 and F750 trucks and motorhome chassis. Here's my best guess, the 7.3 will have no more than 515 lbs feet of torque in 87 octane gas but it will max out at about 2500 RPM and drop upwards of that. SECRET-All GM engines have power ratings at 93 octane and full synthetic oil. The new 6.6 GM has the power ratings on regular 87 octane gas, much different than car engine testing. Will Ford cheat and only give out power ratings on premium 91 octane or 93 octane Super Premium gas? Here's my point, GM published the HP and torque figures on all grades of gasoline, propane and CNG. They boosted the power rating from 295 lbs feet of torque on a 4.3 V6 up to 325 lbs feet by using E85 gas. Granted, the V6 from 2 years ago had a CR of 10.5 to one, so the engine computer can advance to engine timing to take advantage of the much higher octane E85. Pure ethanol has an octane of 99.5 R+M, real world not fairyland numbers. E85 octane is about 95. But at hotter temps, the alcohol cools the valves, and the computers run the fuel mixture a bit richer because of the lower BTU of alcohol. So, if you run 93 octane Super Premium gas in the GM 6.6, the 401 HP and 464 torque will jump up. Expect an increase in torque of about 6 percent or 492 lbs feet and 425 HP on the GM 6.6 on 93 octane. Add another 2 percent to those figures if they test it on E85 which means 433 HP and 502 lbs feet of torque. Guys, let's honest here, im basing the power figures on GM published number, not Fan Boy numbers. By the way i was invited to join the SAE in 1988 based on my work developing full synthetic oils. Our fleet here in Toronto was chosen by Shell to test semi syndrome, full synthetic and reclaimed engine oils. The tests were secret ( we didn't know which oil we were testing) lasted for 300,000 km which is 186,000 miles. Most of the taxicabs were V8 and mostly hardcore city driving, so that 300,000 figure is like 1/2 million highway miles. We begged Shell to run the tests longer, such as 5 years and the 750,000 km we put on them in the 5 years, before we sold them in great condition because we used propane which means almost no engine wear. We had 425 cars in the fleet and only 50 of them used gasoline, the other 375 used 105 octane propane. GM used to give us brand new engines to trade for a 3 year old engine on propane, so they could tear them down. GM paid for our labour costs and all the oil, filters etc. Everyone learned a great deal of info from our test fleet. We did tire testing too for two different tire makers.
Nobody read ur essay... Ur unemployed and live in mommy's basement..stfu
@@ramtrucks721 LMAO !!!!
Lmao very high compression at 10.8 to 1
@@benswaim6418 For a truck engine, 10.8 to one is very high. The Ford 5.4 and 6.8 liter truck engines were just 9.0 to one. LOL. Pay attention.
@@marks6491 ehh if u say there allot of stock engine with above 10 : 1 ratios so seeing that or a lil higher dosnt faze me
I'm a farmer. We have a couple diesels on the farm. But diesels are so expensive to fix this new gas motor is very exciting for me.
I wish they would bring back the 7.3 diesel... One of the best ever made.
7.3s diesels were okay...they had some problems too.
Great for longevity but that was it. Sucked at power. And when you suck at power you suck at towing. A lot of 7.3 guys will never get how that works though.
Is this kinda like a updated 460 I wanna put one of these in a 79 highboy f-250
Do I hear the sound of an engine swap in a muscle car? lol
Glad to see They're bringing back something that can pound the ground again! 6 bolt mains, variable cam timing, skirt squirters, long intake runners, iron block, what's not to like?? Can't wait to see what the aftermarket entails for it!
Heres what you need to know the title says then he says we don't know anything about it. Blah blah blah blah blah
I really don't want to know.
It’s like watching cnn. Big bombshell !!! And nothing......
Yes, a whole bunch of jibberish. No real new information
I’m not a big Ford guy but I love where they went with this engine and can’t wait to see what it gets into in the future!
makes me sad just got a f250 with the 6.2 now a 7.3 coming soon? wow maybe a trade in my future dont get my wrong i love the power of the 6.2 but as Tim Allen says " more power" ... is allways a good thing
Don't be people have been getting long life out of those engines. See how these engines do first same with the 10 speed. The 6.2 and 6 speed are still the base powertrain.
i predict we will be disappointed by the power output of these motors in stock form, at least from a hp perspective.
Don't worry. First model years always have issues and, like chad said, the power rating won't be that impressive. This is an engine made to be a smart man's diesel, it won't be a racecar but you don't buy a truck to go fast. It should make a boatload of torque and last well but the 6.2 is a solid engine and has been around long enough to be worked out and proven to be reliable.
@@406Steven not sure if all the 6.2 have the same quiwrks as mine i have 4200 miles now it has a ticking noise coming from the passenger side of the engine especially when cold the dealer told me it's normal injector noises i dont know to me it sounds like valve rattles at times
The reason the 6.2l modular isnt as popular a swap as a coyote is because of the size. That engine just doesn't fit in anything besides a truck with a huge engine bay. It was mentioned that this is narrower than a 6.2l and shorter than a 6.8l v10. With dimensions like that it should fit into something like a crown vic and probably some mustang platforms. I wouldn't be shocked to see a limited run of 7.3l mustang's come out of the factory at some point, maybe throwing the demon off the pedestal.
Or a destroked 7.0L 429 in a 2021 mustang
Sounds like a 21st century 460. That is a good thing.
More like a 21st century FE
@@matthewq4b Yeah, the cylinder head design is more "FE" than the canted valves of the 460. Seems to be designed as a torque monster too.
The big-block V8 has been around since 1968 in displacements from 385ci up to 460ci (7.5 liters). I had a 460 in a 1973 Thunderbird and worked on dozens of them in the F-350s and the Super Duty RVs. It's a beast of a motor, but the bottom end wasn't too strong with 2-bolt mains. I would love to see this engine with the 6-bolt mains from the modular V8s and 3 or 4 valve heads. The EEC4 EFI motors were very well-behaved compared to the 4bbl carbs, so I'm curious to see what the next gen EFI would do for performance.
The last new design family of ford v8 pushrod. The 351m-400 block in 1971
Arr no, look outside the USA, the Aussie Ford pushrod 200, 250, a true cross flow 6 with steel head came out in 1976, the Alloy heads in the 80s
As a retired fleet management mechanic of a large southeastern city, a cam in block engine of conventional design with port fuel injection is the height of simplicity. Most mechanics understand this type of design and it will make repair and maintenance of these engines a breeze. Ford went with a 60 degree "V" design in the iron block versus the more usual and wider 90 degree "V" design of most American made V8 engines, including all of Ford's past V8s. This 60* block design along with the narrower cylinder heads, (because they don't contain the camshafts) created the narrower engine configuration, which besides the cooling advantages may make it a candidate for installation in more types of vehicles. From what I have seen, the valves, (if maybe just the exhaust valves), may be slightly canted in the cylinder heads, but not radically, maintaining a mostly inline configuration of the roller bearing rocker arms arranged on "pedestal" mounts. From the views that are available, these heads look like they may flow pretty well. The performance specs should be pretty impressive when Ford releases them.
As an old timer that has always bled Ford Blue, this is great news. A new push-rod, big displacement Ford engine? I was blindsided by the news. As said, the performance market can't wait to get their hands on this thing and as a matter of fact, I wouldn't mind either. A new 7.3 in my 67 Mustang or my 93 F-150?
Why 2 alternators?
Shit man, I'd put 3 on there if I could. The more the better.
I have a 15 lml duramax....however gm is introducing a new 6.6 with direct injection....and curious how they solved the dry intake issue with DI.....if this thing proves to be a strong engine, and has sequential fuel injection....i might as well get into one...
do I see TWO alternators? why
Do I need to install a transmission oil cooler on the 7.3 Gas motor in the 2022 F250? The heat of the tranny fluid of the 10 speed is really high compared to anything I have ever driven…
Sounds alot like LS
Far from it more like what LS copies off of Ford
@@thelonewolfoutlaw8276 No, my dad can beat up your dad.
@@DarkLinkAD what are you 5 bud lol
www.heatshieldproducts.com/blog/Tech/no-the-general-motors-ls-v8-is-not-a-copy-of-the-ford-windsor-v8
I always been a mopar person, but i can appreciate a huge engine. 7.3l is a monster.
Would be epic in a foxbody or if another Ford GT is built
Just let me and Dover get our hands on one...
I kinda have a 87 hatch i cant get fixed sitting outside just saying lol
LMFAO it would be shit in a Ford GT to damn heavy
@@fread51 well yeah that could be a issue lol!
Ford has a few legendary engines under their belt. But I won't hold my breath until this one proves to be one of them. Let's not all forget, that there is a generational gap of technologies here, and there will be growing pains. I predict this will be an engine that throws out big numbers and will be very capable, but be riddled with a lot of small failures that will have to be re-engineered out over time.
It's more profitable, cheaper to manafacture and will be big in the truck market...Think of the possibilities, street, drag, baja, rock crawling, restomods, OBS and Bronco retrofit! That engine was designed for added boost and small enough to fit into everything!!!
That’s what I’m curious about is the internals if they can handle boost
@@ALYXTANKBACKPACK Wrong Ford motor the LS is a copy of the Ford Small block they are all Ford motors.
7.3 L V8 and durable design. Can this be put into a sport car? It looks like a beast. Your description is great even without a lot of charts or graphics. Please post more about cars.
looks like a LS to me. No need for all those cams and valves. More to replace and wear out not to mention cheaper to build. Its about time Ford!
I was thinking for my sn95 98 gt
First 5.3l stoker
Second coyote swap
Last BARRA l-6
Now 7.3?? Plug n play?
I wanna put this in my lightning ⚡
Wonder what the compression ratio will be and what octane gas it will take?
Well Chevy got bigger with 8100
Can someone tell me , is that configured with two alternators ? I saw some other Google images like that too . Never thought I'd see that as a stock option though ???
The only reason it is a pushrod is because of the size nothing more! A dohc 7.3 would be way to big to fit in anything! If that 7.3 was a dohc then it would make shit tons more power everywhere in its powerband than the pushrod 7.3 would in the high or low end rpms! But I'am glad ford put something with alot of cubic inches back in a vehicle for sure👍
Yeah Ford actually wanted to build a reliable V8 again and good for them
@@roncook8566 they have always built a reliable v8!
@@roncook8566 we have an LS fanboy here. Probably out trying to invent a way that this 7.3 a copy of some GM design copied off Ford designs.
I agree. Ford needed a better emissions motor for RV's.
@@roncook8566 like the new 5.0 motor that's blowing up left and right
will it come in manual gear , and do you think its a good idea to put this engine in a 1980 gmc truck?
Ford used to have a 534 CI truck engine back in the 70's. This engine was never used in performance cars. I predict this new engine will remain a truck engine and that's it. Consider that a 302 Coyote craps all over the 427 CI Cobra Jets from back in the day.
Those motors were monstrous
Tfl did a video on the new 7.3 with a ford engineer. He didn’t give exact specs but said it will between the 6.2 gas and the Diesel engine in terms of power numbers