How Parents Turns Children Against their Other Parent (ADULT CHILD POV)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Learn about the false beliefs pathological parents instill in their children in order to successfully alienate them from their other parent. This is parental alienation.
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Thank. God for this young lady. Parental Alienation is an epidemic that effects millions of good parents.
Great videos! I am the “Targeted Father”. One thing I might add that others should be aware of is the alienation starting before the divorce or separation started. I remember now back to certain events and things I thought were really weird and now realize it’s because my ex didn’t want me to develop the close relationship with my daughter. She purposely using alienating things even 5 years before the divorce. It’s just such a sickness in the head of the alienator. They are not emotionally healthy and in my case, they are an emotional toddler.
I agree completely.
spot on.
they very immature.
I have been on the other end of this as a parent. I had my daughter turned against me for a number of years. I'm just waiting for her to become an adult so that she can see the facts for herself. I won't need to convince her. She will just see it without my influence. For all those out there suffering from this sort of abuse, have faith in your children to see for themselves. It's now just a matter of waiting.
How did you realize the beliefs were false? Your video is all 100% correct. The most painful thing is the brainwashing they do to their own child about themselves. Thank you for your strength. Yes the projection -- mirrors what they are. This is because you ‘feel the abuse’ and by projecting that to someone else, you have a cause and effect for your pain and abuse. You believe it because you love and trust the abuser and it is really hard to believe your own parent and the one you have trusted so long is actually the one doing harm to you. Stay strong.
Amen to all of this. Thank you for the kind comments. I have to admit, you're absolutely right. The hardest part of all of this are the negative core beliefs about myself that she instilled.
@@TheAnti-AlienationProject I was speaking as a father. However, yes, it would be 10x as bad for you.
It is also the most painful thing for us as the father to watch and not be able to do anything about it. We are supposed to protect our daughters but we are really powerless. The parent willing to abuse their own child always has massive more control, capability and ability to do things that the parent who will not do that to their own child has.
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@georgiakritikos4955 Nobody complains when they benefit from it. Men do it, but it's pushed and done by more women to maintain control over the ex partner it comes with child support and alimony. Until you are on the opposite end or watching your son or brother suffering then it matters. My opinion on all of this is to collectively file a federal law suit against the government. You can not have equal rights and equal protection when one parent has all the control it doesn't matter what happened in the relationship don't involve the kids. I believe that some people don't want acknowledge it's real because you can't give a pill to fix it. Or they believe that how could a person ever do that. Because they cant wrap their head around I they deny it. You can't deny a person's personal experience and tell them it's not real. I would say there's something wrong with you when you see evidence and say that's not it.
I've been alienated from my three children who are now 15 17 and 19. I was an amazing parent to them until I decided to leave my wife. she was narcissistic and abusive. she slowly brainwashed the kids drop by drop... 😢. I have tried everything over the past 5 years to reconnect with them, but they simply will not reply to any of my messages or texts or calls. their mom is controlling and extremely dominant... I hope one day they will grow to see it so I will get a chance to reconnect with them... I write them almost everyday.
Yes, they (alienators) are always CONTROLLING and DOMINENT to the point where the kids are afraid of conflict with that parent. They don't want to Rock The Boat. They do whatever she says to keep the calm. My son's alienating Step Monster was just like this.
I'm praying for you sir
My daughter is going through what you've been through. These pathological parents have no excuse. So frustrating to witness and not be able to do much of anything except watch the damage get done and hope for a future relationship.
I’m so sorry you’re going through this!!
It's been almost 14 years since I've had physical contact with my daughters. Now that I've had years to think about the situation I've realised the alienation was happening long before I eventually left the relationship. It's a pain that doesn't fade with time. I can only imagine it being years of absolute agony for the children
I have read and seen a lot about parental alienation. Your videos help add one of the last pieces of the puzzle that we alienated parents are looking for - a personal insight from the vulnerable child. Despite the added pieces of the puzzle, I'm still struggling with some question marks, so look forward to many more episodes from you.
Your story confirms a lot of my thoughts about what is happening in my daughter's life. A beloved daughter whom I haven't had the chance to meet or talk to in over three years.
All previous conversations with (many times naive) psychologists, therapists and other "experts" feel completely redundant. You are the person my daughter needed for support, you are the person my daughter needed to talk to.
Regards
Håkan Blixt
Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to write this comment. I know that for alienated parents, there are so many questions and mysteries about what the child is being told & made to believe. Thank you for tuning in :)
Would love to hear more about your personal stories/experiences and what this looked and sounded like to you as a child. I think adult children who hear your personal experiences will connect their own and gain new understanding.
Severe parental alienation has been PATHOLOGICAL within my family dynamics started with ME then I married INTO another family system subconsciously as a TEEN MOTHER BOTH grandparents and their families ALIGNED with DOMESTIC violence KNOWN MY children were GROOMED while STILL married to their father and ONLY got worse as we divorced and throughout my ADULT children now being 26/24 are COMING OUT of this VORTEX where I’ve been DEHUMANIZED and it’s NORMALIZED 😢
This is just truly sad! My ex did this to me, and my children are now 22 and 20yrs old ,and neither have spoken to me or their older brother and sister for the last 14yrs! I just put my hope in God and try to continue being a good man and father, continue to help others, and continue to rely on Jesus!
Awesome video. The ending!!.... right from the soul. I feel so proud of you and I don't even know you. Keep going!!
You’re so sweet!! Thank you 🤍
My daughter has been turned against me in brainwashed. She’s 13 now it started when she was very young. Haven’t talked to her in four years or seen her.
Her mother destroyed her life
13 seems to be the age when these things happen, especially if the child has mental health issues, my ex used my daughters mental health against her and had her committed and it really changed her, she's violent, verbally abusive, steals, does drugs, get's in fights at school, skips school, doesn't do her homework or even try. it's a shame because she has a lot of potential and her mother screwed her up big time. it doesn't help my ex is a drug addict in and out of rehab also an alcoholic and her husband molested his own son. people are really sick in the world and they get away with this stuff makes me sick to my stomach.
This video is amazing! You're definitely making an impact. Gives me hope again.
I'm so glad! Knowing it helps other people is the reason why I keep at it :)
Madi is right! Now I can look back and see how my children were handled. The Judge had me removed never to have contact again with the children. I was lucky to get away from the Abuser but my children in their 30's are still stuck with the Abuser. This does not seem normal too this Dad but my hands are tied to help.
Can Madi do a POV on child MINIONs!
It is so painful to be helpless. Hang in there man.
My situation it’s similar. They punished you because you consciously reject them because you saw their fault that’s why they hate you. It means that they hate themselves. They live in their own hell if that helps you. Don’t give up on your children.
My children were in on the prank to get Dad removed as they told their friends before I was Ex-partee ordered. My children then were swimming in money every time I went to Court. After 10 years not seeing any of them I had to bury them for my mental health wellnesses. Two years after Judge #22 cut the money tree down the one son shows up and asks about the tree what happened to it. He was so Angry, Mad, Upset, Violent swearing I was to call the Police on him. I talked with him and answered his questions and now he wants to see me all the time. We cannot meet in public as he is afraid of the Abuser so bars or other towns will do until he figures it out. @@mariapilarme
This is exactly what is happening with my ex and my kids. Thank you for doing these videos.
You’re so welcome!! Thanks for watchinf
This is what my soon-to-be-ex is doing to our young adult kids, you videos have given me hope. Thank you.
Excellent video...why is this not more recognised and also published everywhere .😢😢😢
My daughter hasn't slept in my home since 2005, when she was 13.
This is when a daughter needs her Mother. I don't know when her period started!!!!!
Her Dad does though.
I worked a flexible low paying job so I could be there to get her from high school as this didn't interfere with younger siblings schedule. We go out to eat so we could talk about things Mother's teach their daughter's about their bodies.
Today, I don't even know my grandson's even though I was invited, yet ignored at the wedding.
I'm single, celibate and still waiting while I send gifts, reach out with no reply , yet.
23 years later, I don
I’m so sorry. Never once in 20 years did I sleep over at my dad’s house.
Please never give up hope for your kids. I never even hoped for any type of reconciliation with my dad-it didn’t cross my mind even once because that’s how DEEP in the indoctrination I was-and I STILL managed to figure it out.
If they knew the truth, or even suspected they were being lied to, everything would be different
You are an incredibly brave and resilient woman. I can only hope my 16 and 14 yo’s will one day see the light as you have. And can grow into the whole beautiful people that can truly be.. it’s a tough journey for the maligned and crushed Dads in cases like this.
You’re so sweet. Thank you 🥹
Our granddaughter who is 15 now has been alienated from her dad and me and my husband as grandparents. Her mom has fed her lies for years . Our granddaughter told me last year that she is trying to distance herself from her dad and us, her grandparents. They sent were married for 20 years.
I am soo confused because I am married to a man and there are signs of parental alienation from birth mom towards him. His son and daughter cut him off. There is soo much bits and pieces of clues that screams parental alienation
I’m really sorry! I can understand how the process of figuring everything out is so confusing and emotional. I hope he’s ok!
Wow! Everything you said is completely what my dad has gone through with his ex (who’s a covert narcissist parental alienator). She always tries to paint him as a bad dad any chance she gets. It got so bad with her lies & disturbing abusive texts (with my siblings copied 😖) that he had to go no contact with her so they do not communicate anymore. My dad & I are grateful to have a great relationship with my two brothers (my sister is alienated). Did you ever consult with your brothers about what was happening?? I often wonder if my brothers & sister talk about it. It has to feel so contradicting to my sister to see my dad, brothers, & I together having fun on trips & such yet their mom always spewing lies & negativity to them about our dad. Thank you so much for your videos!!! Sending lots of love towards your healing ❤️🩹
Thank you for your support!! This is SUCH an important issue. I’m planning to make a video about PA & fall-out regarding siblings very soon. 😊 stay tuned!’ I’m sorry you’re goi g through this
@@TheAnti-AlienationProject Oh that would be so helpful! My dad & I tread lightly with my brothers (not asking too many questions so they don’t feel pressure) but we do say things like, “Please tell Ash we said hi.” Or “Give Ash a big hug for me.” I genuinely believe they feel trapped/in the middle/powerless in the situation. My sis is 18 & the boys will be 16. Looking forward to your input on this (I’m still going through watching all your videos from the beginning & onward :) Thank you for being such a brave advocate & speaking out about parental alienation & sharing your experience ❤️🩹
Very hard to hear all of this. Thank you, Maddy, for making these videos. This is all too familiar. The pathological parent can also be the new step-parent in the family dynamic. Oh, yes, it can! I felt so bad for my son.
I’m so sorry you’re going through this.... It’s eerie how there are so many patterns...Please know you’re not alone. If you need to exit out of a video if it’s too hard to watch, I totally understand.
Yes a new step parent can be the alienator, which is the case with my son's new step mother, although the father totally allows it, as he moved into her house and is now following her rules, my child started calling her mama the day of their wedding.. its heart breaking..
Step-parent in my case too. She has alienated my daughter from both biological parents now.
@@user-uw7ql7qp3kwhere is the step dad in this situation?
I’m glad kids are hearing this is a thing. My own kids used to look at me like I had 2 heads. I have no idea what they were being told. Except Mr. Porn king told them I was cheating. Nope, but poor daddy. The cruelty has changed my life, but I’m sad also that the kids grew up intellectually but not emotionally. Now the grandkids are being told that I am too crazy and too mean to even know. From my experience if you raise a family, pay for college then you are done. The uninvolved psychopathic parent comes along and poof! No family. What a perfect joke on me because he knows that’s the most perfect way to kill me.
You are absolutely amazing. I am a step mom who threw myself into trying to help my three step kids and I loved (still do) them so. But I made the mistake of trying to enter the momma bear den and now they are gone from our lives. I think often about what I could have done better etc but at the end of the day its going to take people like you to keep getting this word out there. They left us all on the turn of a dime without any warning and its been years now. My husband is so devastated but decided to finally let go so he wouldn't literally implode. We find out things about them online and get excited when we see good things they are doing but the hardest part is that they literally hate us and we had such love when they were little. It should not go unnoticed all the step parents who's lives have literally been ruined by the devastation of giving up everything to try and save etc... I blame myself a lot and I am sure you know about Borderline Personality disorder and how it is the silent undiagnosed thing of a lot of mothers. Usually the father may be slightly on the spectrum and the "new wife" is usually an over caretaker... a big mess really. I wanted to write a book but I had to let it all go. Keep up your brilliant work and I can't tell you how many you may help break that crack in the concrete you talk about. I salute you.
You’re ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about the pathological parent and their projection.
My ex is deeply mentally ill. Multiple doctors, psychologists, and at least 5 other mental health providers told her she needed serious testing and likely intensive inpatient treatment. I spent 5 years trying to get her to agree to get help. She refused and I finally filed for divorce after 5 years of aggressive threats of divorce from her. Since then, she falsely claims to anyone that will listen that I’m deeply mentally ill and severely abusive.
I’ve learned during my case (false DV claims and divorce/custody) that I can now successfully predict her moves and abusive patterns by simply paying attention to her accusations at the time.
My ex-wife started on my kids. Looking back now about four years before the divorce. My ex-wife eventually got my two eldest daughters to accuse me of sexual abuse, and I had to fight 17 charges in the district court of Western Australia. I was found not guilty because they couldn’t believe their lies, even though I had they had a refresher from the prosecution, the Thursday before the trial started. The trial took nine days in total and cost around $1 million. I haven’t seen my two eldest daughters in 2017 and my two younger children since 2019. My ex-wife has taken out restraining order against me on behalf of them all and she has also manage to have all the family court orders cancelled, so I can’t see them whatsoever.
Your courage and authenticity is so appreciated!! I hope that despite your father and others never having heard of PA, that they educate themselves. I hope they realize that YOU were being abused, and instinctively doing what you needed to do to protect yourself.
Keep learning and growing! As an alienated mom, I have to say how incredibly proud of and equally thankful for you sharing your realizations, emotions, and journey! Much love to you!
You will be a much better parent because of your growth!!
You're so kind!! This comment means everything to me... sometimes it's hard to see the child as the victim here, because of the pain they're inflicting by proxy, but YES. It really destroys the child in every aspect of development, health, identity, ability to manage emotions, attachment styles, I could go on. Thank you for watching :)
@TheAnti-AlienationProject I am not only watching, but I am sharing your informative videos. More people need to be educated on what this is, and how it affects children. Maybe then there will be hope for intervention, at some point, to prevent all the destruction it causes.
@@tammylea you’re so awesome!! I really appreciate that. & YES. I’m really hoping there will be a wave of adult children speaking out soon. I think it’s imperative that the ADULT CHILDREN speak out to reveal the depravity of the abuse. So much of it is a big question mark for the targeted parents so it’s incredibly hard to prove.
The hardest part of it: If you talk about the alienator, no on takes you seriously. Especially when you are a father... They make cheap projections and yes the best part was that she many times called me a narcissist. What a joke! I know all the phrases like "You never cared about me. You have done nothing for me". After these phrases you have two choices, either you shed tears loughing or crying. Insane, wow :D
My ex husband who has alienated our children, even some of our grand grandchildren against me is the pathological lying narcissist.
Wow, that was awful...'whole in your heart because your dad doesn't love you 💔'.
May you find peace and thank you for what you do.
Thank you!!!
This is a great video! The only thing I’d like to add or correct is that if/when the courts get involved, they don't help. The courts, in most circumstances, do not recognize parental alienation, and they do not help you get your children back if you are losing them to the alienating parent.
Thanks a million! One reconciliation at a time. Make this a social movement.
Thank you for making. Your videos bring hope. My story is an atrocity. The whole court system is flawed
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I applaud you so much, you're helping me understand a bit more about what my boys have gone through and are still going through.
You are so welcome! There's no power in silence
So very thankful that you do what you do, i hope you feel it helps you to heal knowing that you are making a difference in the world and your voice is so crucial to bring awareness to this devastating issue.
It is truly heartbreaking that adults could harm children in any way. I would imagine it’s difficult to have to relive some of the events all over again.
Thank you so much for being the person you are, and turning your experience into your resilience so that you could create this platform to help other children and families.
Omg you’re so kind… Thank you. I’m really sorry you’re going through this. It does help me to heal by helping other people.
Ugh… I so commend you for stepping out on this very sad and life altering situation. Extremely painful to go through for both the alienated parent and the children. Seems my husband repeats his parents history. I am not one to give up so for now I turn the other cheek, knowing all truth comes to the surface sooner or later.
Thank you for posting! 😊
Thank you for posting these videos;
- hearing this from a child who was victimized is huge as other children would understand how brain washing is done;
- I’d recommend watching Dr. Richard Warshak who is an expert on PAS; this helps to understand the pathology of the mental problem of the alienator
God bless you and your dad for living past the trauma
All true! Thank you, God with us all still suffering from “Parental Alienation” and Ex Narcissistic spouses, (been two years for me now and I am still fighting to see my two teens son & daughter) ❤️✝️🤘
You pegged it!! This is my story - YOU ARE STRONG- my daughter is not 😡my kid s mom knows she is a npd child abuser and so she accused me of it- you said it possibly - I would say more probably
Madi - this is an outstanding video!
You very succinctly describe a complex phenomena in a simple to understand way
Congratulations on making good progress on your personal journey of recovery, and for your sincere efforts to help others through your excellent videos
You are rightly held in very high regard by those of us seeking to learn about PA!
Wow, thank you!
My two grown daughters, my only children, turned completely against me when their father left me after 26 years. I was completely blindsided because the girls and I had always been so close. The two of them haven't forgiven me for being the first to serve papers. It's been over a year, and I haven't seen them in 10 months. My elder daughter won't communicate with me at all. However, my younger child has texted me a few times since the holidays. The texts are supportive yet distant in tone. You've reinforced my impression that she is, perhaps, "testing the waters" because she realizes what has actually happened. It was months before I understood that my former husband had been influencing them against me their whole lives. Little things came back to my mind as time passed. Then, as I learned more about Narcissism and parental alienation, I began to understand why my family fractured as it did. I'm so grateful God led me to your videos! You've confirmed my hope that my second daughter, at least, is courageously taking steps to allow me back in her life. My heart genuinely hurts for children and parents who endure this kind of mistreatment and abuse. It's diabolical...
HE TOLD CHILD your mother never wanted you, your mother never loved you, lies
Your an amazing young lady, I wish you love and peace into your life forever more. God Bless you
Omg you’re so kind. Thank you
"Mindbending" ist a very fitting adjective...
I made a reaction video on my channel for the Dutch audience. I gave full credit and I pointed them to your channel.
You are so strong!!! Agree. Thank God for your strength!
Thank you for your work and efforts. You are giving a voice to parents and children.
Again, awesome. Thank yoi so much for sharing your story. I cannot imagine it's easy. 😊
You are so welcome!
Thank you for your bravery! ❤
You are so welcome
I am going through this! I don't know what to do! It is Severe!
I wish you could come to my court hearing and speak about your experience. It’s very compelling.
Thank you for sharing your story!
Thanks for watching!
I want to defend myself in court for defamation, pain n suffering? Only thing he loves is money, control, beer.
Amazing!! Thanks you for doing this.I hope you know how much this helps!
So glad it was helpful for you!! Thank you for watching :)
Toxic mothers need to be stopped.
You can talk to Dr Bernet, but I personally believe the reason a lot of adult kids don’t reach out and unify is do to guilt, shame and a fear of knowing the truth combined with broken trust of an influential devaluating parent. I strongly encourage alienated parents to learn all they can from adult children who’ve found their way and psychologist who help them understand the personality disorders of the alienating parent. This MUST be taken on in different directions to successfully have a healthy reunification.
This is exactly right. As painful as this reality is to accept, I try to find some peace in all I've learned. Maddie's story as an alienated kid whose now an adult has given me hope. Learning about Borderline PD has also allowed me to understand why a person with this mental illness may act in certain ways.
My how i wish you could send this to my daughter. 😢
This happened to me as a father and there's nothing you can do especially if you have no support from your family, the only way it will ever be mended is if the child realizes they were brainwashed and then come to their senses then reach out to the parent. Unfortunately sometimes the wounds are just too deep to want a relationship anymore with the person who has been so horrible to you and for no reason. Sometimes you just got to move on knowing you tried your best as a parent. No one ever said life was fair or just....unfortunately :(
Well done, Maddie. Thanks for sharing this video with me. :)
thank you for watching!! :)
@@TheAnti-AlienationProject Good stuff :)
Why the way I always refused any therapy, I am not the mentally ill person. I am the stronger one!
Oh wow, I had to pause at 6:41. Thank you for sharing! I have been gravely ill for 104 months(months are good for me as a time frame) without being able to speak but very little. I've tried to write all this out and its uplifting to hear it from another.
This is extremely TWISTED!!!!!!!!!
My SON ASKED LAST MONTH MOM IF I COME HOME TO YOU DO I HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH❤I SAID NO
❤THIS MONTH HIS THERAPISTS THE SALEM MASSACHUSETTS PROBATE COURT & HIS DAD SAID YOUR MOM WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND YOU❤❤❤
Ray Conner out of Manchester New Hampshire ❤❤❤told my son YOUR MOM IS TOO BUSY FOR YOU❤
A therapist found by ❤state Appointed lawyer LYNN MURPHY, IN KAHOOT WITH ELENA ROSNOV FATHERS LAWYER SALEM PROBATE LAWYER WHO FOUND LESLIE MILLER GAL, IVE HAD 15 JUDGES❤ THEY ARE DRIVING MY SON CRAZY & THEY PICK ON MY SON BECAUSE HE HAS PDD❤❤❤& THE SALEM PROBATE COURT KNOWS THIS
Standard projection eh. Thank you for sharing. 😊
Dear Maddie, thank you for your kind words of understanding - may I ask, what is your relationship with your mother now? Best, Shaun
This is awesome stuff. Thank you!
How fathers raise daughter vs Sons is extremely different
Father prepares daughter for a husband
Fathers prepare sons to be a husband
Excellent ❤i sent it to MJ❤my son who cant see my text but im sure HIS DAD CAN
I called the SALEM PROBATE COURT❤❤❤TOLD THEM IM DOING A HUGE INVESTIGATION ON LESLIE MILLER GAL & HOW MANY LAWYERS & JUDGES SHE CAME INTO CONTACT WITH SALEM PROBATE LAWYERS & JUDGES TO TAKE CHILDREN FROM LOVING PARENTS, I HAVE 2 CASES ,+ THEY SAID THEY ARE RESTRICTED BUT I KNOW THE PARTIES❤❤❤ IM GOING IN❤
Madi, I copy and pasted the web link to one of your videos in a text message to my 28 year old son. I do not know if he opened it. I told him what a brave young woman you are for starting these projects and making the videos. His reply was "I see" and I do hope he watched the video. Perhaps there will be some understanding from the videos and the people's comments. I want him to know how much I love him and how sorry I am that the Step Monster did the alienation and filled his young mind with so many lies.
Thank you so much for sharing. You’re doing an amazing job!
What if you warned your child in advance of the PA plan in specific details that then soon after took place exactly how it was presented to the child in which they completely participated?
Do the Psychopaths Hare Checklist for your mom. See what score she'll get.
Oh geez hahah. I'm a little scared to.
More likely narcissist. They're different degrees of the disorder. But I bet that's where the real problem began. The stats would be interesting.
It's his projection of himself n new wife...
Did your anxiety increase as a child? To the point where you couldn't be out in public? Did she blame that on your father?
How can you do that to your own kid? This makes me extremely sad.
Please don’t feel sad for me!!! Now that I know the truth, I’m free
I feel sad for you but actually I'm going through that with my little girl. They've destroyed the beautiful relationship I had with my princess. Best way to describe it? A stab in the heart. Glad to read that you overcame that and are free now.
@@stevennkoyo3653 I’m so sorry you’re going through this!! And sorry for your daughter. It’s horrible for both parent & child
It is sad. It hurts alot. I miss my babies.
I've been trying to find a lawyer in quebec Canada to help me with this issue I am in now
Can I take a wild guess that the vast majority of these situations are created/started by the mother......since the majority of divorces are initiated by the wife. Any reliable stats in re to the above?
do you recommend bringing this up to your child? That is now speaking to you that is now 24 years old.??
Would it be a good idea to send these videos to my adult children?
This happens in most families that,s why I chose to have no kids problem solved. Easy
100%,
You are awesome ❤️🩹🎉
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And the courts promote it.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror