I needed you 35 years ago. This is 1 of the brst purces of advice Ive heard anybody give. Rent before you buy. I was born farm/ranch in the eastern mnts of TN. My family has huge places in TN and in the U.P. of MI. I left 35 years ago, and bought 4000 acres in WY. 😳 It took me 13.5 years of altering the Earth, and I do mean Altering the Earth, to make that place work the way I want it to work. You mentioned ND. I have a place up there too, on the west side. But, I just use that for meat chickens, potatoes, beets and beans. -30°, or colder, is normal in the winter. Very short grow season. I do still go back to MI, and TN, and I have personal property in both. God willing I'll get them up and running before he calls me home. But.. I wish I had rented and spent some time in WY before buying. The alterations I had to make to the Earth were huge. My career is in road constructuon so I had access to all of the heavy equipment I needed, and I knew what I was doing. What I didn't know, was that Id have to do all of the things I did. I bought the land, and discovered what Id have to do afterwards. Creating a water table where there is none, removing invasive plants and trees brought by the early settlers, putting in cisterns, blasting through rock, etc, etc. 13.5 years is a long time. Time I could have saved if I had just rented for a year. I wouldnt trade the place for anything now. But I probably would not have bought it if I had known all of the obstacles. Rent before you buy. 😁👍🏼
I have lived my whole life almost in the state of Florida. I have always been close to water and forests. I know that I would not be able to stand living somewhere that did not have a lot of trees, no where that I fish and swim. We have hurricanes and tornadoes that are devastating sometimes. We had hurricane Michael in 2018, it changed the whole landscape here and a lot of places have still not recovered. Even though I live in Florida, I know better than to live right on the beach, it will be destroyed at some point. Another thing you need to consider about the place you are gonna move to is property tax, or taxes in general. Everywhere you go has different tax collection set up. Some places have state income tax, some have really high property tax and homeowners insurance. Just a lot of things can determine how you will be able to survive.
Mr. Salatin, you would be welcome to visit in Northern Ireland... We have started the homesteading movement here too! Great advice! I'm in Northern Ireland for 17 years and last year I moved from 0.2 of an acre with a 1000 sq foot 3 bedroom house (running water and electricity of course) to a 4.5 acre parcel of raw land. No house, running water, nor electric...but planning permission to build, in march 2023. First 2 months I lived in a 5 berth trailer, with a puppy, 3 cats, 4 hens in their coop. In May I got a 280 sq ft insulated 1 room shed. I've been here a year carting water from the well, having a separate outhouse and cooking on a camp stove (now a 2 ring gas cooker/stove). It has a wood burning stove for heat, I have less cats, more chickens and roosters, and big dreams.. Job stayed the same, moved away from friends, and made new friends. I'm 3 miles away from town (19 miles from work only 4 days a week) it's a hard slog doing it alone but I'm living my best life. On my terms. I have to be easy on myself as I always feel I should be further ahead than I am but I'm doing well with food forest, veges, eggs and chickens. I couldn't be happier. My homestead is ACORN homestead please join me if you wish
I bought some land an hour drive away that was neglected, and had (still has) a lot of junk on it for about half of what the surrounding land was going for. It is farther away than I wanted and it is a lot of work cleaning it up and preparing the soil, but I love doing it. I love the variety of things to do, seeing the animals grow and planning the next projects. We would like to have a farm closer to our house in the city, but we might sell this land later and buy something smaller, closer to the city or move closer to the farm. If you wait for the perfect peice of property, you will never find it.
We bought hunting property and before we actually retire and move to that area permanently. I’m going to try a small garden, to begin with. It’s very Sandy in that area.
I live in Missouri and in the last 5 years people from CA and WA have come in and driven our land prices up to the point we locals can't afford it on our wages then they fail and want a huge profit on a failed endeavor. We have 23 acres we are developing.
The sad thing is that too many of the real estate agents here are also from CA and have overinflated the land prices so that only people from CA can afford such worthless unproductive ground , most especially land in the Ozarks that is unfit for production. For ten years I delivered mail and got to see who moves in and who moves out and what the time span is. Most of the people who move here from CA stay for about five to ten years. During that time period they pay too much for property to keep a local from getting it, build a huge and impractical home on it, ruin the land/ecosystem because they have no idea what they are doing, they get bored going to Branson every weekend and cannot find another form of entertainment, go broke from the low wages/lack of jobs in our state, and realize the natives despise them. Then they want to move and 90% move to Texas or Florida. The rest go back to CA. They try to sell their property for three times more than they paid for it hoping another person from the east or west coast will by it. They list it with a realtor and it sits often times for years. They always think it's the real estate agents that cannot sell their property, they fail to accept the fact no one is going to over pay for a large impractical house on rocky land they ruined. The Ozarks is full of over priced properties that sit on the market for years and that no one in their right mind wants because the land has unproductive rocky soil and the owner had the land logged out thinking they would get rich doing so thus making the land look like a big eyesore/ecological disaster. What is even more disgusting is that out state gov't has not done anything to stop people from the coasts from buying property here and ruining it after they buy it.
@@ozarkrefugeeyour state g'v't. Is busy eliminating the corporate tax and letting coal miners, frackers, and walmart's owners wreck your state instead. If you want to live somewhere that ' outsiders' can't buy property, move to mexico. If you want a radical increase in g'v't.'s power while you claim to be for small government, move to russia.
In MO it has been impossible to find acreage for rent in the last twenty five years. Every since ethanol and biodiesel plants have gotten started in this part of the country, no more rental ground for anything other than corn and bean production.
I can go from wet okla to Arizona desert to 10k feet in Colorado. But very few have that knowledge. You want to homestead you really need to do as he says.
But isn't it hard to set up living on a rented acreage? Probably my house would be far away on my private land, and i'd have to commute to my farm every day. Or you think it's possible to build a house on the rented field?
Pick a spot and buy. Joel is a national treasure, but he's a lil out of touch on a few things. Maybe a house trailer or large tiny home if you have to rent interim.
@audreysuter4315 I live 30 minutes one way and occasionally still need to visit the post office, hardware store, clothes store, DMV, doctor office, etc. Self-sufficiency is never a 100% thing.
I have 19 +_ acres wooded 7 miles from a major grocery store chain and 8 miles from the nearest hospital. Everything he said I was worried about but there are still places that a lot of people don't want to live in and is very very central to getting what you need. A major city is one hour away so if I need a job it isn't a big long hike to get there. Better have 6 or 8 chord of wood every winter though. There are trade offs but it's mine I own it and people stay over there and I can do pretty much what I want. Now if anyone knows nuclear fission I could use the knowledge for my home made nuclear reactor for power...😁🤣
This man just drops golden wisdom on a daily basis. . . Wow
I needed you 35 years ago. This is 1 of the brst purces of advice Ive heard anybody give. Rent before you buy. I was born farm/ranch in the eastern mnts of TN. My family has huge places in TN and in the U.P. of MI. I left 35 years ago, and bought 4000 acres in WY. 😳 It took me 13.5 years of altering the Earth, and I do mean Altering the Earth, to make that place work the way I want it to work. You mentioned ND. I have a place up there too, on the west side. But, I just use that for meat chickens, potatoes, beets and beans. -30°, or colder, is normal in the winter. Very short grow season. I do still go back to MI, and TN, and I have personal property in both. God willing I'll get them up and running before he calls me home. But.. I wish I had rented and spent some time in WY before buying. The alterations I had to make to the Earth were huge. My career is in road constructuon so I had access to all of the heavy equipment I needed, and I knew what I was doing. What I didn't know, was that Id have to do all of the things I did. I bought the land, and discovered what Id have to do afterwards. Creating a water table where there is none, removing invasive plants and trees brought by the early settlers, putting in cisterns, blasting through rock, etc, etc. 13.5 years is a long time. Time I could have saved if I had just rented for a year. I wouldnt trade the place for anything now. But I probably would not have bought it if I had known all of the obstacles. Rent before you buy. 😁👍🏼
I have lived my whole life almost in the state of Florida. I have always been close to water and forests. I know that I would not be able to stand living somewhere that did not have a lot of trees, no where that I fish and swim. We have hurricanes and tornadoes that are devastating sometimes. We had hurricane Michael in 2018, it changed the whole landscape here and a lot of places have still not recovered. Even though I live in Florida, I know better than to live right on the beach, it will be destroyed at some point. Another thing you need to consider about the place you are gonna move to is property tax, or taxes in general. Everywhere you go has different tax collection set up. Some places have state income tax, some have really high property tax and homeowners insurance. Just a lot of things can determine how you will be able to survive.
Mr. Salatin, you would be welcome to visit in Northern Ireland... We have started the homesteading movement here too!
Great advice! I'm in Northern Ireland for 17 years and last year I moved from 0.2 of an acre with a 1000 sq foot 3 bedroom house (running water and electricity of course) to a 4.5 acre parcel of raw land. No house, running water, nor electric...but planning permission to build, in march 2023.
First 2 months I lived in a 5 berth trailer, with a puppy, 3 cats, 4 hens in their coop.
In May I got a 280 sq ft insulated 1 room shed.
I've been here a year carting water from the well, having a separate outhouse and cooking on a camp stove (now a 2 ring gas cooker/stove).
It has a wood burning stove for heat, I have less cats, more chickens and roosters, and big dreams..
Job stayed the same, moved away from friends, and made new friends. I'm 3 miles away from town (19 miles from work only 4 days a week) it's a hard slog doing it alone but I'm living my best life. On my terms. I have to be easy on myself as I always feel I should be further ahead than I am but I'm doing well with food forest, veges, eggs and chickens. I couldn't be happier. My homestead is ACORN homestead please join me if you wish
We’ve got family land in Louisiana. I’d love to learn more about how to use ponds for irrigation that isn’t just pumping the water out…
Good old fashioned digging ditches and controlling the channels? But you're bringing all that larva water your way.
I bought some land an hour drive away that was neglected, and had (still has) a lot of junk on it for about half of what the surrounding land was going for. It is farther away than I wanted and it is a lot of work cleaning it up and preparing the soil, but I love doing it. I love the variety of things to do, seeing the animals grow and planning the next projects. We would like to have a farm closer to our house in the city, but we might sell this land later and buy something smaller, closer to the city or move closer to the farm. If you wait for the perfect peice of property, you will never find it.
Where you located?
@@AkudgiSpringtown, TX
We bought hunting property and before we actually retire and move to that area permanently. I’m going to try a small garden, to begin with. It’s very Sandy in that area.
I live in Missouri and in the last 5 years people from CA and WA have come in and driven our land prices up to the point we locals can't afford it on our wages then they fail and want a huge profit on a failed endeavor. We have 23 acres we are developing.
The sad thing is that too many of the real estate agents here are also from CA and have overinflated the land prices so that only people from CA can afford such worthless unproductive ground , most especially land in the Ozarks that is unfit for production. For ten years I delivered mail and got to see who moves in and who moves out and what the time span is. Most of the people who move here from CA stay for about five to ten years. During that time period they pay too much for property to keep a local from getting it, build a huge and impractical home on it, ruin the land/ecosystem because they have no idea what they are doing, they get bored going to Branson every weekend and cannot find another form of entertainment, go broke from the low wages/lack of jobs in our state, and realize the natives despise them. Then they want to move and 90% move to Texas or Florida. The rest go back to CA. They try to sell their property for three times more than they paid for it hoping another person from the east or west coast will by it. They list it with a realtor and it sits often times for years. They always think it's the real estate agents that cannot sell their property, they fail to accept the fact no one is going to over pay for a large impractical house on rocky land they ruined. The Ozarks is full of over priced properties that sit on the market for years and that no one in their right mind wants because the land has unproductive rocky soil and the owner had the land logged out thinking they would get rich doing so thus making the land look like a big eyesore/ecological disaster. What is even more disgusting is that out state gov't has not done anything to stop people from the coasts from buying property here and ruining it after they buy it.
@@ozarkrefugeeyour state g'v't. Is busy eliminating the corporate tax and letting coal miners, frackers, and walmart's owners wreck your state instead. If you want to live somewhere that ' outsiders' can't buy property, move to mexico. If you want a radical increase in g'v't.'s power while you claim to be for small government, move to russia.
@@ozarkrefugeeSo... Regulations.
In MO it has been impossible to find acreage for rent in the last twenty five years. Every since ethanol and biodiesel plants have gotten started in this part of the country, no more rental ground for anything other than corn and bean production.
Quite remarkable how different peoples' experiences are. Greg Judy leases over 1800 acres in mo. Now people offer him land (!)
Fate sure is strange.
I am in year 1 here and I broke most of Joel's rules 😂, I am hoping to make it work longer than 5 years!
Hey, we all learn the lessons best the hard way - keep it up!
Your neighbors are your co-op. You can pay your neighbor way more for hay cause you dont have labor and $$$fuel$$$ hauling it in.
I can go from wet okla to Arizona desert to 10k feet in Colorado. But very few have that knowledge. You want to homestead you really need to do as he says.
But isn't it hard to set up living on a rented acreage? Probably my house would be far away on my private land, and i'd have to commute to my farm every day. Or you think it's possible to build a house on the rented field?
Pick a spot and buy. Joel is a national treasure, but he's a lil out of touch on a few things. Maybe a house trailer or large tiny home if you have to rent interim.
Thank you! 😀
It’s nice living far away from civilization to gain peace, quiet, & safety but the downside is that it takes 45 minutes both ways to run errands.
If you're mostly self sufficient then it doesn't matter
@audreysuter4315 I live 30 minutes one way and occasionally still need to visit the post office, hardware store, clothes store, DMV, doctor office, etc. Self-sufficiency is never a 100% thing.
Thank you this was very informative I have a lot to think about again thank you
Often if land isn’t being farmed there’s a reason for that as Joel has mentioned on his podcast.
Thanks Joel!!!
EXCELENT JOEL !!!!! MOST HELPFULL, THANK YOU.
I have 19 +_ acres wooded 7 miles from a major grocery store chain and 8 miles from the nearest hospital. Everything he said I was worried about but there are still places that a lot of people don't want to live in and is very very central to getting what you need. A major city is one hour away so if I need a job it isn't a big long hike to get there. Better have 6 or 8 chord of wood every winter though. There are trade offs but it's mine I own it and people stay over there and I can do pretty much what I want. Now if anyone knows nuclear fission I could use the knowledge for my home made nuclear reactor for power...😁🤣
What if you don't have any friends or family who live rurally or farm?
Thank you
Many thanks!!!
From South Africa. Getting my ducks well rowed........
Area/county/State restrictions ???
Taxes, insurance, and some places you can not live off the grid.
Farming 101 according to the book of Joel 😂
All that you in the video is nothing but the truth