This is one of the main reasons why I love Generations. There are just so many references and nods to the past games, and they're treated all equally; Seaside Hill is given as much care and attention as Green Hill Zone. The music especially runs the gamut from the redone Special Stage from Knuckles Chaotix to combining the Seaside Hill and Ocean Palace tracks. And the kicker is that Sonic Team has no obligation to do this. Truly amazing stuff.
This is a fantastic comparsion! This was what was needed, not a side by side, just going back and forth with points that are actually mean be compared than full levels.
Seriously People. Enough with the seaside denied comments. People are trying to read some comments and they find a bunch of comments about a video that's not even on topic all that much
I'm NOT saying 06 is better than any other game in the series(except maybe Labyrinth), but there are SOME(notice I said some) redeeming qualities such as the music, intro of Silver, and the cutscenes were awesome. Still Heroes is my first console sonic game, my 3rd overall favorite Sonic game and one of the games that started me as a gamer
@MegaE25 Generations has 50% 2D. The 2D sections in modern stages are really short, and is mostly filled with 3D ( at least 2/3 of the modern stages are).
You are saying that the deaths in 06 are unfair, yet forgetting about S.H. having roughly about ten guaranteed pits of death in every level. (if you're used to the game, you might only encounter about two per level, and might get through the first few levels without finding one). Just so you know, I am not defending 06, but while its level design is bland, it doesn't seem so off-putting. It has more problems, and is probably more offensive overall but the pits of death kinda killed Heroes.
man, I really want to play sonic heroes again, but with generation's graphics engine. that'd be awesome, since heroes was the last console sonic game I enjoyed (aside from generations)
I've seen his review (as far as it has been uploaded so far). Like I've already said, I'm not saying that this game isn't bad. I'm just saying that a lot of people might be able to tolerate it, but we seem to get bashed for it in videos and comments. For instance, you called anyone who defends it a troll.
That doesn't really explain why you said that it's impossible to hate Sonic heroes and like sonic 06 "unless you're trolling". the quality of a game cannot be a fact. A critical success or failure can, but not everyone will like or dislike a game as much as the lowest common denominator.
Well, at the time I only had a cheap Windows XP laptop and I played it on that. It was a really demanding game at the time. And I didn't own a gamepad at the time because I didn't play games as much as today.
I dont realy count colors and generations has 3D sonic games because if you have a game thats like 95% 2D and throw in a little bit of 3D it doesint make it a 3D game.
and people stfu about sonic adventure 2 being a bad game it was a best seller and critically aclaimed with score on average over 88% and sonic controls better in that game than ANY other sonic game game that has been released today! so far
when you said "I don't know what's worse, the fact she made out with an animal, or a corpse." well that's from sonic shorts from sonic paradox...for me...I have gamecube version of sonic 6 and heroes and i love them both (sonic heroes a tad bit more) aside from the glitches sonic 06 was AWESOME! Without the glitches (Yuji Naka's *think thats his name* fault that the game was screwed [thanks for quitting SEGA jerk!]) It would be either better or as good as sonic heroes...especially the music!!!!!
Having a different opinion ≠ trolling. I admire Sonic Heroes for its pick-up-and-play type style, but the deaths in Sonic 06 feel more genuine. In Sonic heroes, the physics and level design aren't cooperative. You can be sent off a spring and end up falling to your death, or have to do something you wouldn't know to do the first time playing in order to survive. tl;dr version: Sonic 06 has more cons, but sonic Heroes' cons are more offensive.
Easy tiger... firstly, Sonic 06 had a great story (except for the Hedehog-human love), especially Silver's story. Sonic 06 was a great game, it was just rushed. Just listen to the awesome music! But I do agree with Heroes being better.than 06. Heroes is my favourite Sonic game actually together with Colors and Adventure.
It certainly feels like I'm catoring to modern sonic or that it's my preference, but that's not so. I strip away that and look at th levels themselves. You all know what's coming. The winner is Modern, and of course it is. It's the same reason i gave for City Escape. All the open space, being one of the most expansive single levels I have ever played in any game EVER!. There's just so much ro do and look at. I really wish I could give more explanations for my answers but there is the char. limit
Actually, the people just overreact and take the games to serious, for me, a game is good if it's entertaining and it's great to play, but the people complain at any kind of glitch, you know, i didn't play the game, but i saw a list of the glitchs in it, and only the ones in the Silver battle (with Sonic) were actually bad
That's true. They did go a tad too far on how many gameplay styles there are. They went REALLY far when it came to the realism (we've got to walk dogs...?), so that was another downside. I like this game and I could come up with thousands of bad things about it. Like I said though, I just look them over, cause that's the kind of gamer I am. I don't think liking this game is trolling in any way, unless you're shoving the opinion down people's throats.
because the classic seaside hill has a really obnoxious bug, and the modern redesigned version doesn't carry the same pace or flow as that game, and generations isn't really it's own game, it is just remade levels that we've all played before, with alterations like 2d sections in 3d levels and vice versa, ruining the classic feel of them.
I thought it was a good game though. Levels were beautiful, storyline was ok (Metal Sonic impersonating Eggman) Homing attack was good compared to Sonic adventure 1, and characters kinda looked good at the time the game was published (A little better than Sonic Adventure 2 in my opinion). :)
How are sonic heroes' cons more offensive? The loading in 06 is 20 seconds *30 on ps3* or more...and it appears more than once a level and at least 4 times in a side mission that usually takes less than a minute. Plus the deaths in sonic 06 are completely unfair. First level unless you get on the loop that you have absolutely no control over JUST RIGHT then you will fly off the edge and die. Or sometimes a boost pad doesn't throw you far enough and you fall into a pit...
- That's not really true. There's more than enough differences to take this game away from the "Adventure line", even though it's a sequel. Try being more accurate next time. - Even the creators themselves were ashamed of how Sonic 2006 turned out to be. If a lot of people were disappointed with it and even the creators of that game said something about it, there must be a reason why. Not to mention the undeniable amount of glitches.
This is one of the main reasons why I love Generations. There are just so many references and nods to the past games, and they're treated all equally; Seaside Hill is given as much care and attention as Green Hill Zone. The music especially runs the gamut from the redone Special Stage from Knuckles Chaotix to combining the Seaside Hill and Ocean Palace tracks. And the kicker is that Sonic Team has no obligation to do this. Truly amazing stuff.
Yeah they went all out
Sonic in Heroes: Yeah guys, lets crack that egg wide open!!!
Sonic in Generations: Forever alone... ._.
The inclusion of Ocean Palace in this game is neat! Those giant rolling rocks are scary though!
It's sad playing Seaside Hill in Generations without Tails and Knuckles.
it would be very cool if it was like an extra content in the game
You could play with them on the PC version using mods. Sure, you can only play with them one at a time, but they're there.
Brandon Smith brandon your everywhere
+gree squid t
And...?
Love this video. Seaside Hill is beautiful for eyes and ears in both versions (original and Generations).
*"GOT IT!"*
_"Leave it to me! :)"_
"HERE WE GO!"
This shows me how much Sonic has grown!
This is a fantastic comparsion! This was what was needed, not a side by side, just going back and forth with points that are actually mean be compared than full levels.
cool how sonic generations have the first 2 stages of sonic heroes!
My nostalgia its all coming back 😄
"Let's show THIS game the real power of Nostalgia!
"SHIFT"
"ROCK"
"YEAH"
”No more blocking pillars left”
Knuckles: I'm gonna use you guys as a boxing gloves WAIT?WHAT?!
It's so Epic, I'm about to cry !
My first sonic game...good memories
Seriously People. Enough with the seaside denied comments. People are trying to read some comments and they find a bunch of comments about a video that's not even on topic all that much
"SHIFT! ROCK! YEAH! No more blocking pilars left"
look at all those eggmans robots!
LOL Tails' grammar
"Shift! Rock! Yeah!, No more blocking pillars left!"
Now I want this game so freakin bad !
Crisis Plz!
"Line up side by side from here on!"
I always remember that line everytime I'd play Seaside Hill or Hear the music x3
"I can't see the point of this quest, we'll likely meet a grave fate"
had the original beat it.. playing generations watching this vid and just now realizing the platforms are on giant turtles..
They need to put that on the Wii U.
''Let's go guys we've a goal we're pursuing!''
"No more blocking pillars left!"
I'll go as far as to agree with you full on. Sonic Heroes started my love for video games and Sonic!
@thesoniczone11 Weren't they separate levels in Heroes?
"Wait, what!"
"Shift, rock, yeah!"
Haha, great job on the music syncing, best part of the video
I was surprised to hear a remix of Ocean Palace. It made me cry. :')
More like, SHIT!, ROCK!, YEAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love how you put in the original music mixed in with the new one, :,)
That's some pleasant music transition.
My ears propel us through the air!
*sigh* this one level was what made me a sonic fan back when I was 5 years old, and SUCKED on the egg hawk; it took me a MONTH to beat
I'm NOT saying 06 is better than any other game in the series(except maybe Labyrinth), but there are SOME(notice I said some) redeeming qualities such as the music, intro of Silver, and the cutscenes were awesome. Still Heroes is my first console sonic game, my 3rd overall favorite Sonic game and one of the games that started me as a gamer
i just love this old sonic game when i used to play it
Even though I never played heroes, this just made me cry :,)
Wait. what? WOAH!
@MegaE25 Generations has 50% 2D. The 2D sections in modern stages are really short, and is mostly filled with 3D ( at least 2/3 of the modern stages are).
I like the whole back in forth between original modern and classic tracks.Just wish they're was more ocean palace. :(
will there be 3DS version stages?
They included Seaside Hill and Ocean Palace, but why not Sea Gate? :P
AH! Big please don't stare!
You are saying that the deaths in 06 are unfair, yet forgetting about S.H. having roughly about ten guaranteed pits of death in every level. (if you're used to the game, you might only encounter about two per level, and might get through the first few levels without finding one).
Just so you know, I am not defending 06, but while its level design is bland, it doesn't seem so off-putting. It has more problems, and is probably more offensive overall but the pits of death kinda killed Heroes.
wait a sec ¡¿turtles carying stone plataforms?! ... PETA must not see this
man, I really want to play sonic heroes again, but with generation's graphics engine. that'd be awesome, since heroes was the last console sonic game I enjoyed (aside from generations)
Where's the rest of us, can't be far.
I've seen his review (as far as it has been uploaded so far).
Like I've already said, I'm not saying that this game isn't bad. I'm just saying that a lot of people might be able to tolerate it, but we seem to get bashed for it in videos and comments.
For instance, you called anyone who defends it a troll.
Modern>Original>Classic
Mighty's in some bar...
Oh, yeah, and the one of the rocks, but you can also take that glicth as a challenge.
In the gamecube gameplay, who else heard all of the sounds?
The robots?
Rings
Knuckles, Shi! Ra! Eah! *BOOM*
etc
That doesn't really explain why you said that it's impossible to hate Sonic heroes and like sonic 06 "unless you're trolling". the quality of a game cannot be a fact. A critical success or failure can, but not everyone will like or dislike a game as much as the lowest common denominator.
Original>Classic>Modern
Well, at the time I only had a cheap Windows XP laptop and I played it on that. It was a really demanding game at the time. And I didn't own a gamepad at the time because I didn't play games as much as today.
Don't know where the rest are..
Love how he gets downvoted for saying he likes heroes better but you say you like it better than any 3D sonic game and you get thumbs up. Logic :D
Fwoggy are you're in there? xD
Still waiting for classic levels
I dont realy count colors and generations has 3D sonic games because if you have a game thats like 95% 2D and throw in a little bit of 3D it doesint make it a 3D game.
Those turtles are badass.
My first Sonic level :´)
and people stfu about sonic adventure 2 being a bad game it was a best seller and critically aclaimed with score on average over 88% and sonic controls better in that game than ANY other sonic game game that has been released today! so far
when you said "I don't know what's worse, the fact she made out with an animal, or a corpse." well that's from sonic shorts from sonic paradox...for me...I have gamecube version of sonic 6 and heroes and i love them both (sonic heroes a tad bit more) aside from the glitches sonic 06 was AWESOME! Without the glitches (Yuji Naka's *think thats his name* fault that the game was screwed [thanks for quitting SEGA jerk!]) It would be either better or as good as sonic heroes...especially the music!!!!!
"Heavy and Bomb, au revoir!"
Lugiafan0798 was that from the seaside denied video?
the graphics used to look so good to us bak the but look at it now :0
Actually I think that Sonic Adventures 2 is kinda cool. And Sonic 06 is not good at all, though.
I didn't know they merged seaside hill and ocean palace in generations. @_@
Sonic Heroes is WAY to underrated.
to bad Egg Hawk dosen't appear in Sonic Generations...
thats because you dont have tails and knuckles on your side
Im remember those old days :/
i miss playing with knuckles & tails :(
That's what Omochao called it.
Having a different opinion ≠ trolling.
I admire Sonic Heroes for its pick-up-and-play type style, but the deaths in Sonic 06 feel more genuine. In Sonic heroes, the physics and level design aren't cooperative. You can be sent off a spring and end up falling to your death, or have to do something you wouldn't know to do the first time playing in order to survive.
tl;dr version: Sonic 06 has more cons, but sonic Heroes' cons are more offensive.
Silly Sonic, you don't need a car.
totally agree with you here.
Easy tiger...
firstly, Sonic 06 had a great story (except for the Hedehog-human love), especially Silver's story.
Sonic 06 was a great game, it was just rushed. Just listen to the awesome music!
But I do agree with Heroes being better.than 06. Heroes is my favourite Sonic game actually together with Colors and Adventure.
It certainly feels like I'm catoring to modern sonic or that it's my preference, but that's not so. I strip away that and look at th levels themselves. You all know what's coming. The winner is Modern, and of course it is. It's the same reason i gave for City Escape. All the open space, being one of the most expansive single levels I have ever played in any game EVER!. There's just so much ro do and look at. I really wish I could give more explanations for my answers but there is the char. limit
I don't think they completly ruined SeaSide Hill, but they abused the 2D sections in the Modern perspective.
Actually, the people just overreact and take the games to serious, for me, a game is good if it's entertaining and it's great to play, but the people complain at any kind of glitch, you know, i didn't play the game, but i saw a list of the glitchs in it, and only the ones in the Silver battle (with Sonic) were actually bad
That's true. They did go a tad too far on how many gameplay styles there are. They went REALLY far when it came to the realism (we've got to walk dogs...?), so that was another downside.
I like this game and I could come up with thousands of bad things about it. Like I said though, I just look them over, cause that's the kind of gamer I am.
I don't think liking this game is trolling in any way, unless you're shoving the opinion down people's throats.
Ahhh, nostalgia. xD
because the classic seaside hill has a really obnoxious bug, and the modern redesigned version doesn't carry the same pace or flow as that game, and generations isn't really it's own game, it is just remade levels that we've all played before, with alterations like 2d sections in 3d levels and vice versa, ruining the classic feel of them.
"Rocket Accel"
I thought it was a good game though. Levels were beautiful, storyline was ok (Metal Sonic impersonating Eggman) Homing attack was good compared to Sonic adventure 1, and characters kinda looked good at the time the game was published (A little better than Sonic Adventure 2 in my opinion). :)
AMAZING!!
How are sonic heroes' cons more offensive? The loading in 06 is 20 seconds *30 on ps3* or more...and it appears more than once a level and at least 4 times in a side mission that usually takes less than a minute. Plus the deaths in sonic 06 are completely unfair. First level unless you get on the loop that you have absolutely no control over JUST RIGHT then you will fly off the edge and die. Or sometimes a boost pad doesn't throw you far enough and you fall into a pit...
I remember when I was little and bought Heroes because the box said Sonic looked new and improved! Best worst buying decision ever. :D
thats what i thought when he said that XD
This is an app called sonic dash
no it isn't. sonic dash has this levels song remixed
GoldenBonita lol
I don't think so. Mystic Mansion was not fun for me.
- That's not really true. There's more than enough differences to take this game away from the "Adventure line", even though it's a sequel. Try being more accurate next time.
- Even the creators themselves were ashamed of how Sonic 2006 turned out to be. If a lot of people were disappointed with it and even the creators of that game said something about it, there must be a reason why. Not to mention the undeniable amount of glitches.
@thesoniczone11 Oh okay. Thanks for explaining.
mystic mansion would of been a better choice. especially for the music.
I love Sonic Heroes a whole lot better c: