@@negueba235689 You didn't specify synthetic in your question. You just said old engine oil. So, I answered accordingly. I apologize that my abilities aren't up to snuff to be able to read your mind, lol
@@Corporal. Yea my bad to use the word Old hehe. I have a diesel burner today in my workshop. I have some old cars drop by now and then. would be nice to use that oil. Insted to pay and deliver it somewhere.
Synthetic oil DOES burn but at a much higher temperature therefore hindering startup and normal cycling. It all depends on what temperature is required in the firebox before the system starts it's run cycle , I would try a 80/20 mixture of regular oil to Synthetic to start and gradually increase until you get a system failure. most likely the manufacturer never tested to see how much Synthetic oil you can burn just for the simple reason that it would too complicated and would defeat the purpose of having a user friendly burner for the average person to operate.
Robin, yes you are correct. Synthetic oil burns but has much higher flash point temperature vs conventional oils. Some mixture of synthetic with conventional would likely be fine up to a certain dilution, at which point it would flame out. The goals of our Eliminator 120 heater are to offer users simplicity, reliability, ease of use, and affordability relative to traditional waste oil heaters. Engineering a solution to burn synthetics would require a less simplistic unit. Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
@@PowerEagleUSA it's nice to finally see a simple to use system like the eliminator on the market , there's a ton of videos on DIY burners and probably a ton of property damage as well. Thanks for the info.
I just got mine today and I'm in the process of installing it. Reading in the manual it says to keep combustibles 5' away from the back, does this mean a 2 by 4 wall with some insulation stapled to it? If so, this just seems like a huge distance and a lot of wasted floor space that I have to maintain empty of anything behind the heater
@kelly Snapp We're checking with the manufacturer (we are not the manufacturer) on this, but in most areas of the country, installations fall under guidelines of NFPA 31 Chapters 10, 11 & 12. Check with your local code official on this for specifics.
@kelly Snapp Just got word from the manufacturer on this today. Their engineering team has changed the distance to combustable ratings. The rear distance is now listed at 2.5 feet. Please contact us for further info or questions. Thank you, Team @ Power Eagle USA
@@shannonlawsonnashville working awesome. To start it, I tear up a small pile of cardboard or wood splinters and fill the pan with half oil and half diesel, rotten gasoline from project cars, etc and once slid inside heater, light it with a propane torch. Also, what they don't really tell you in product description is in temps below about 30 or 35 F, the chamber cools down a little too much and it kicks the room blower fan off for a minute, then the chamber gets hot enough again and the fan comes back on, and the process repeats. At least until the room air gets approx 40 or higher. No biggy.
Ohhh no. Even tho non my business right. But since I have bad/good habit reading comments on videos I watch. See tht no reply to ur input/question. Just maybe if the comment was posted to actual company of the maker of this product then u may get some better feed back. I may be wrong but my guess is this here guy/company is just the installer of heater/unit.
$4200 as of 10 FEB 2022 for drip system? ummmm. Wish someone made something a lot smaller and priced closer to the very common cheap diesel air heaters ($100-200)
I have a old waste oil burner from the 50s and I have found that if you can get used fryer oil from restaurants it burns great and you don't need to clean it out every other day
Synthetics are not petroleum based, so they are difficult to burn. Higher cost, more complex waste oil burners may be able to burn synthetics but the advantage of the Eliminator 120 is that it is not high cost or complex. It is ultra simplistic, low cost and works great with conventional oils of many types.
James, not sure the science behind it but synthetic lubricants are different than conventional oil in several ways. One being they don't burn. I'm sure you could get away with mixing a small amount in with conventional oil or diesel and it would be OK, but alone they won't burn.
@@PowerEagleUSA The flash point is much higher then regular oil. With a small burner pan mode to this unit it starts on and burns synthetic just fine..
If it doesn't reach a specific initial temp the fuel pump won't engage. You'll want to vent properly to rule that out as a potential root cause. Call our tech support if needed 800-422-2332
Do you mean that the pump doesn't turn on at all or it turns on but it's not pumping oil? Like they said, there is snap discs inside the main chamber that wont turn on stroker pump until a certain heat is reached ( I wanna say 140 or 160 ish deg F) That way, if the tank runs out of oil or pump screen gets clogged or whatever else causes the oil to stop pumping, the fire inside dies down and eventually out, causing temp to fall and snap disc to shut off pump (and combustion fan). What is the room air you are running it in? What kind of oil is in tank? How have you been starting it (what and how much do you put in vaporizer pan)?
How the hell are you supposed to know if your waste oil is synthetic or not! HA! Practically everyone uses synthetic these days and when you're doing oil changes you won't have a clue as to whats coming out!
Synthetic oil does burn but at higher temperatures, which is one reason it's a superior engine oil.
Mix 20% diesel with it and it burn same a conventional oil, I do this daily.
If it can't burn synthetics and it's basically worthless cuz everything is synthetic blend now
That's exactly what I was thinking
Yea and synthetic is cleaner oil
Just mix it or add a touch of diesel to increase its flammability or burn ability.
I’ve had mine for 3 years and I love it
can in burn old engine oil ?
@@negueba235689 That's what it's for.
@@Corporal. But in the video he say can not burn synthetics ? all my cars runn synthetic oil
@@negueba235689 You didn't specify synthetic in your question. You just said old engine oil. So, I answered accordingly. I apologize that my abilities aren't up to snuff to be able to read your mind, lol
@@Corporal. Yea my bad to use the word Old hehe. I have a diesel burner today in my workshop. I have some old cars drop by now and then. would be nice to use that oil. Insted to pay and deliver it somewhere.
I burn everything in mine highly recommend this heater, but does need to be cleaned often
From what I've learned, the residue is from the additives used in motor oil products.
Synthetic oil DOES burn but at a much higher temperature therefore hindering startup and normal cycling. It all depends on what temperature is required in the firebox before the system starts it's run cycle , I would try a 80/20 mixture of regular oil to Synthetic to start and gradually increase until you get a system failure. most likely the manufacturer never tested to see how much Synthetic oil you can burn just for the simple reason that it would too complicated and would defeat the purpose of having a user friendly burner for the average person to operate.
Robin, yes you are correct. Synthetic oil burns but has much higher flash point temperature vs conventional oils. Some mixture of synthetic with conventional would likely be fine up to a certain dilution, at which point it would flame out. The goals of our Eliminator 120 heater are to offer users simplicity, reliability, ease of use, and affordability relative to traditional waste oil heaters. Engineering a solution to burn synthetics would require a less simplistic unit. Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
@@PowerEagleUSA it's nice to finally see a simple to use system like the eliminator on the market , there's a ton of videos on DIY burners and probably a ton of property damage as well.
Thanks for the info.
Just mix 20% diesel fuel with it and it burn just same as conventional. Works great for my heater, I burn any oil.
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How well does the heater burn deep fryer cooking oil?
It does fine with cooking oil as long as it is suitably in liquid form.
I just got mine today and I'm in the process of installing it. Reading in the manual it says to keep combustibles 5' away from the back, does this mean a 2 by 4 wall with some insulation stapled to it? If so, this just seems like a huge distance and a lot of wasted floor space that I have to maintain empty of anything behind the heater
You already paid money for it, so they don't care about your questions 😉
@kelly Snapp We're checking with the manufacturer (we are not the manufacturer) on this, but in most areas of the country, installations fall under guidelines of NFPA 31 Chapters 10, 11 & 12. Check with your local code official on this for specifics.
@kelly Snapp Just got word from the manufacturer on this today. Their engineering team has changed the distance to combustable ratings. The rear distance is now listed at 2.5 feet. Please contact us for further info or questions. Thank you, Team @ Power Eagle USA
How has this thing worked out for you? I’d like to know how you’re using it
@@shannonlawsonnashville working awesome. To start it, I tear up a small pile of cardboard or wood splinters and fill the pan with half oil and half diesel, rotten gasoline from project cars, etc and once slid inside heater, light it with a propane torch. Also, what they don't really tell you in product description is in temps below about 30 or 35 F, the chamber cools down a little too much and it kicks the room blower fan off for a minute, then the chamber gets hot enough again and the fan comes back on, and the process repeats. At least until the room air gets approx 40 or higher. No biggy.
What about fumes ? Ok to run this in a enclosed garage without carbonmoxide risk?
Yes, the heat exchanger is sealed. The exhaust gets piped out your chimney, or a vent pipe will be installed.
Is there anything that will burn synthetics? I use mostly synthetic blends
Most waste oil burners will. Most units spray the fuel like an injector and not a drip feed like this.
Oh ok cool. Thanks for the info
These will burn synthetic but ya gotta mix it with conventional or diesel fuel
@@bobberbuilder6122 thank you
its already blended so it burns just fine
You can burn synthetic if you mix a little diesel fuel in to lower the flash point of the oil.
What do u do when it produce too much smoke?
I would start by opening the air adjustment on the burner. Also, feel free to call our service dept 800-422-2332
I just got one where can I get a replacement thermostat
Call our office to order one 800-422-2332
Mine keep getting over heat and it shut off on its own. The flame Glen thru the exhaust too its scary help please
Ohhh no. Even tho non my business right. But since I have bad/good habit reading comments on videos I watch. See tht no reply to ur input/question. Just maybe if the comment was posted to actual company of the maker of this product then u may get some better feed back. I may be wrong but my guess is this here guy/company is just the installer of heater/unit.
$4200 as of 10 FEB 2022 for drip system?
ummmm. Wish someone made something a lot smaller and priced closer to the very common cheap diesel air heaters ($100-200)
Can I burn hydraulic fluid? Is there an optimal ratio to burn of hydraulic/motor oil?
Jeff, yes it can. As long as it is not synthetic.
Hydraulic oil is the best it has no ash in it
I have a old waste oil burner from the 50s and I have found that if you can get used fryer oil from restaurants it burns great and you don't need to clean it out every other day
Why would i want to heat my waste oil?
But are people also burning waste engine oil in it? Fumes seem to go out unfiltered full with heavy metals and other chemical pollution!
not understanding why it can't burn sythetics?
Synthetics are not petroleum based, so they are difficult to burn. Higher cost, more complex waste oil burners may be able to burn synthetics but the advantage of the Eliminator 120 is that it is not high cost or complex. It is ultra simplistic, low cost and works great with conventional oils of many types.
way higher flash point then conventional oil.
Can I use in northern Ontario Canada?
This heater holds a CSA approval
Why cannot burn synthetic? Its oil right?
James, not sure the science behind it but synthetic lubricants are different than conventional oil in several ways. One being they don't burn. I'm sure you could get away with mixing a small amount in with conventional oil or diesel and it would be OK, but alone they won't burn.
@@PowerEagleUSA The flash point is much higher then regular oil. With a small burner pan mode to this unit it starts on and burns synthetic just fine..
Do you ship to ontario Canada or know of another distributor who will? Thanks
@bluelightguy1 Yes, we can. We'll need some details from you. Please email us: info@powereagleusa.com
Can i burn off road diesel fuel in this?
yes
Yes, no problem.
3k is affordable?! Lol I'll build my own for 30 bucks that won't need a blower fan, fuel pump or combustion blower.
$3k is very affordable.
Lmao let's see that diy 30 dollar heater buddy.
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Can it burn used veggie oil?
Yes, and you can mix waste oil or waste diesel in to optimize the burn. It just has to be non gelatinous.
@@PowerEagleUSA what do u mean by non gelatinous.?
@@kisschaiyarungsee6484 just that the oil must be liquid and not gel at room temperature or while it's in the fuel tank.
@@PowerEagleUSA what are the chance that the waste veggie oil that it will clog the pump or is it possible to clean the pipes and the pump?
@@kisschaiyarungsee6484 There is a stainless steel screen on the fuel inlet inside the tank which can be cleaned if needed.
Mine doesn't pump the oil somehow. Is it because I didn't vent the exhaust correctly?
If it doesn't reach a specific initial temp the fuel pump won't engage. You'll want to vent properly to rule that out as a potential root cause. Call our tech support if needed 800-422-2332
Do you mean that the pump doesn't turn on at all or it turns on but it's not pumping oil? Like they said, there is snap discs inside the main chamber that wont turn on stroker pump until a certain heat is reached ( I wanna say 140 or 160 ish deg F) That way, if the tank runs out of oil or pump screen gets clogged or whatever else causes the oil to stop pumping, the fire inside dies down and eventually out, causing temp to fall and snap disc to shut off pump (and combustion fan). What is the room air you are running it in? What kind of oil is in tank? How have you been starting it (what and how much do you put in vaporizer pan)?
Nice design but i dont know about $4,000 for it.
Answer people's questions if you want your product and channel to flourish
All modern oil is synthetic
Mix 20% diesel fuel to 80% synthetic oil and it will burn it.
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This is a waste of money, every vehicle has synthetic oil, fix this problem and you have a perfect oil burner
What if you cut it with diesel 50/50
Barns covered in hemlock are a good idea. It has a natural insecticide and boring bees wont bore into it at all.
Mine works just fine burning synthetic oil. I heat a 34x40 shop all winter long with this unit.
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3k to no be able to burn synthetic???junk
How the hell are you supposed to know if your waste oil is synthetic or not! HA! Practically everyone uses synthetic these days and when you're doing oil changes you won't have a clue as to whats coming out!
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crap, all I have is huge amounts of synthetic oil. crap.
That's not fireproof you need to put some 5/8 inch sheetrock on that wall !
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