TOP 10 Toth Comics to READ - Alex Toth In Depth Episode 2

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • TOP 10 Alex Toth Comics Stories to READ! People may have a tendency to study Toth stories, more than read, but reading is key. Here’s a guide to give neophytes a place to start, a list for longtime Tothanados to bandy about.
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    In no particular order, discussed with NO SPOILERS are: Torpedo 1936 (’82); F-86 Sabre Jet (’53); Black Canary (’72); The Monument (’66); White Devil, Yellow Devil (’72); Hot Wheels: The Case of the Curious Classic (’70); Soldier’s Grave (’71); The Reaper (’80); The Fox stories (’83); Taps (’82).
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    Alex Toth In Depth is hosted by Paul Fricke, cartoonist and comics instructor at the Minneapolis College of Art & Design since 2012. Email: paul@opaulo.com • Links: linktr.ee/opaulo
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    Episode Links: Alex Toth Archives -
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    • Toth Fans website - tothfans.com/
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    Show bumper music “Silver Summer” from the album “Hungarian Jazz Rhapsody” used with permission from Mihaly Borbely Quartet
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    Audio an & video editing by Elijah Bailey - follow on Instagram @elijah_nikolai

Комментарии • 54

  • @DJhSnn
    @DJhSnn Год назад +3

    The Black Canary pages are just beautiful… sure would be on a list of all time best.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  Год назад

      These pages are great, yep, and the story's pretty fun. You man all-time best superhero stories ever?!

  • @golfo0011
    @golfo0011 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for the video. Alex Toth is the comic book author most liked by comic book authors, but he is a great stranger to the general public. I dont' know no other who generates so much admiration like the master of masters Alex Toth: he manages to eliminate everything superfluous, both in the paneling (story) like in the drawing, and he is a master of light, his shadows are wonderful. You need to know to draw a lot to portray so much with so little!. I discover his comics in the early 70s in the spanish versions of Warren's comics and have spent my whole life collecting it, I will never tire of its lessons.(sorry for my bad english, please)

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      No apology necessary, thanks for writing! It's true, to strip it down, each line becomes more important in what it means, where it goes. I, too, shall never tire of Toth.

  • @mlunaID
    @mlunaID 4 года назад +3

    This channel is a goldmine! Subscribed and enjoying everything you put out. Thank you!

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад +1

      Thanx, Marvin. Glad you like it! More to come...

    • @mlunaID
      @mlunaID 3 года назад

      Absolutely! Since re-watching your "Five to study" and "10 to read" videos I've picked up Toth's Clint & Mac, The Frogmen, and the Frontline Combat reissue of F-86 Fabre Jet. Wonderful stuff.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад

      @@mlunaID Wow! Building your collection, love to see it. Soon you'll have more Toth stuff than I do. :D

  • @toddblackwood129
    @toddblackwood129 4 года назад +2

    It’s hard for me to look at all that architecture in ‘The Monument’ and not think Legion Of Doom! Great video tho! ‘Taps’ is still unrivaled & severely underrated... 🙏

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад +1

      I was unfamiliar, had to look up the Legion of Doom headquarters - see some similarity, but of course prefer Toth architecture. ; )

    • @toddblackwood129
      @toddblackwood129 4 года назад +1

      I’ll have to google the model sheets but I’m pretty sure Toth designed both! PS- have you ever considered that the Pixar film ‘Up’ was based on Alex Toth? To me it seems the film was their sly tribute to their grumpy hero! :)

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      @@toddblackwood129 Hadn't thought of that. I'll have to watch again with that in mind...

  • @canobenitez
    @canobenitez 4 года назад +2

    Awesome work Paul! now see where Zaffino took inspiration from! great interview with JPLeon as well! What do you think abuot Tommy lee edwards?

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад +1

      LOVE Zaffino! Though he and Toth don't share the simplicity thing, certainly they're in sync in regards to approach to black/white positive/negative space.

  • @40L900L
    @40L900L Год назад

    I'm a new Toth fan! Thank you so much for making these :D

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  Год назад +1

      Welcome aboard the Toth Train!
      More episodes on their way...

  • @Johnrap
    @Johnrap 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video. The soldier comic reminded me of 300.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад

      Vice versa, yeah? ;)
      Glad you liked the vid - more to come...

  • @frelongreenable
    @frelongreenable 4 года назад +1

    I like a lot "Survival!" and "Grave undertaking" stories too.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      They are both good, Toth's work on these stories, exceptional, but I don't find "Survival" packs as much punch as it might, and the "Grave Undertaking" ending is kind of silly, abrupt and at odds with the tone of the rest of the piece. But rest assured, I'll cover both in future episodes.

  • @ianmiller1000
    @ianmiller1000 4 года назад +1

    Very interesting to hear a bit about Toth's relationship with Wally Wood. I had heard that he admired Wood's work, which is ironic given that Wood was known for cramming as much detail as he could in his pages But they were both amazing illustrators and storytellers, which is why the both of them are in my top 3 favorite comic artists (Along with Kirby).

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад +1

      I think a lot of these cartoonists of that era had respect for each other (but I suppose it wouldn't take much research to find a lot of 'em slammin' each other, too - LOL). I admire Wood's work, but find I liked it more when I was younger. His more realistic rendering I find not well-suited to comics, but love his bigfoot/cartoony work - a great fit for comics!
      My top 5 comics artists would be: Toth, Eisner, Krigstein, Mazzuchelli & Xaimé Hernandez.

    • @rockon8174
      @rockon8174 Год назад

      Buscemas are good too

  • @timothymarkin4481
    @timothymarkin4481 3 года назад

    I first saw that Black Canary story reprinted in World’s Finest when it went to digest size in 1982…it’s a much different experience seeing the pages in full comic book size!! Definitely recommend the original printings in Adventure Comics 418-419!
    When you mention that the Fox stories were Alex’s tribute to Irwin Haden, it gave me the idea that maybe the Fox designs were meant to reflect Haden’s work on Wildcat from the 40s, with the all black costume.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад

      And another experience to see the originals and in B&W. The Fox bears resemblance to Wildcat, as Hasen co-created them both. And Bill Finger had his fingers in everything, apparently! ; )

  • @mlunaID
    @mlunaID 4 года назад

    I purchased Toth's Black Canary story / Adventure Comics #418-#419 (on ebay) thanks to you! Looking forward to the read-through!

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад +1

      Man, I'm so glad to be a nudge for Toth :D

  • @piricsiremus2405
    @piricsiremus2405 4 года назад +1

    Have to say as incredible as Toth was i'm still happy Bernet took over.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      I'm glad we have the two Toth did, and consider the first he and Abulí did to be one of the finest comics shorts ever done, by anybody. Toth didn't have the stomach for the rough nature/tone of the series (most of which I find to be misogynstic, especially as the series progressed) and Bernet was a better fit - more broad and humorous in his approach, which helps takes the edge off somewhat.

    • @piricsiremus2405
      @piricsiremus2405 4 года назад +1

      @@comixcrush There's just some panels from Bernet that for me are the most fun i ever had reading comics,his short stories with Abuli are just great you should do an in depth on those 2 guys their storytelling i think is phenomenall.Anniway great content nice to see these pop in my feed ,it's sorely lacking these days.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      @@piricsiremus2405 Thanks, I'm sticking with Toth for a while, tho. :)

  • @MarcosAurelioOficial
    @MarcosAurelioOficial 4 года назад

    Hi From Brazil. I am enjoyng a lot your videos about Alex Toth. Success to you!

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад +1

      Thanks much, I'm glad you're getting a kick out of them.

  • @danrodriguez3783
    @danrodriguez3783 3 года назад

    Love this content! Every panel a key frame.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад +1

      So pleased you like it.
      Great way to put it!
      More episodes in the works now...

    • @danrodriguez3783
      @danrodriguez3783 3 года назад

      @@comixcrush Absolutely looking forward to it! I would also like to add that your commentary / analysis on Toth is quite illuminating. Keep 'em coming kind sir!

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад +1

      @@danrodriguez3783 Will do. Thanks for the compliment.

  • @jessewilley531
    @jessewilley531 3 года назад

    X-Men #12... first appearance of the Juggernaut. And you'd think if there was one person who could take over for Jack Kirby without missing a beat it'd be Toth. Do you know why that didn't happen?

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  3 года назад

      I commented elsewhere Stan Lee didn't care especially for Toth's stuff. Other reasons, too...

  • @billyhynes9798
    @billyhynes9798 4 года назад +1

    As a diehard Toth fan, I was waiting for something to disagree with here but found nothing. A tough challenge. I might have included Death Flies a Haunted Sky, perhaps in place of Taps...I don't know. I also love the Man Who Would Be King as an almost exceptionally detailed job from him. Nothing superfluous but busy none the less.
    So many good ones. I also think the fact he didn't have his Spirit or Fourth World and people relegating his stories as dross is irrelevant and that he did some excellent stories with Goodwin and Kanigher in particular. The real shame is that it's not all pulled together to read as a volume

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      Glad I passed muster! Yeah, it wasn't easy, and I considered it all a long while. "Haunted Sky" has great pages/panels/scenes, but it is an OK story, the reveal and denouement on the last page wordy and cramped - difficult to nail pacing and endings, especially on a deadline, even from the best of the best. Isn't "The Man Who Would Be King" a movie? You mean maybe "Man Who Tried to Kill Death?" If so, others have put in a good word for it. I gotta feature it soon!
      There's many other really good War stories, but if I had to pick a couple, it had to be Saber Jet & WDYD.
      Let's build up the fanbase and demand so much DC can't resist releasing a big Toth volume!

    • @billyhynes9798
      @billyhynes9798 4 года назад +1

      @@comixcrush My bad. ...If I Were King is the story about the dweeby guy who want to be a TV star and a witch lady changes him. I'm sure you know it. I LOVE that strip. From the splash to the witch's lounge. Just beautiful

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад +1

      @@billyhynes9798 Yep, featured it in episode 4.

  • @bizarrebraincomics7819
    @bizarrebraincomics7819 Год назад

    Very cinematic.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  Год назад

      Toth's work? In a fashion. But it's ALL COMICS.

  • @markclegg1491
    @markclegg1491 4 года назад +1

    Can't disagree with any of that. I wonder where you would place "OoLaLa" in his canon.

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  4 года назад

      After speaking with JP Leon for episode 3, I've been rethinking that - we both geek out on it. I may like "OoLaLa" more than his Fox stories, actually, but wanted to include something colorful and heroic, which I think reflects a good portion of what he was after in his work in terms of tone.

  • @iOnRX9
    @iOnRX9 2 года назад

    i wonder how he would have done in this day and age of self publishing?

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  2 года назад +1

      Seems to me he liked assigned tasks. But perhaps he would've had it in him. Despite producing drawings, essays, covers. etc his last 20 years, not much finished material, so I think he would've struggled in this regard. That said, he was game when Indy publishers wanted to publish his work in art books or with Bravo, so it did and could've more worked out.

    • @iOnRX9
      @iOnRX9 2 года назад

      @@comixcrush i read about people calling his art old fashioned like they did kirby’s, and it just breaks my heart. if there were comic book makers alive today with that kind of skill ...

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  2 года назад

      @@iOnRX9 In some ways even Toth & Kirby can be dated, but mostly their timeless, especially Toth. Plenty of current comics artists have tons of skill imho.

    • @iOnRX9
      @iOnRX9 2 года назад

      @@comixcrush on the level of kirby? toth? Moebius? if yes who are they?

    • @comixcrush
      @comixcrush  2 года назад +1

      @@iOnRX9 Well, the giants are the Giants. I thought you were denigrating current creators.
      While Kirby's character and concept invention are once-in-a-lifetime, he, for much of his career was less concerned with accurate anatomy, and could've used an editor in regards to his text or dialogue. Toth, by his own admission, had difficulty writing. To me, what he laid down was timeless, and better than anybody - otherwise I wouldn't devote a whole program to him! But it's possible he didn't have in him a longer series that he did completely on his own.
      Creators since, standing on these shoulders, have grown beyond in some ways. Xaime Hernandez, David Mazzuchelli, R. Kuiko Johnson, Jeff Smith, and more, are more complete cartoonists - writing and drawing their own stuff and building a body of work. Unlike the Giants, they're not working in as formative a time with the medium, but there are less caveats one must cite about the work - one can approach and read more current stuff more easily.
      I think one can say and admit this without lessening the impact of the Giants.