I've had more than one cat that liked the dance parties. 😸 The last cat, that I had the longest, even had favorite music. He did NOT like 80s alternative rock, but loved old school R&B. 😹
That young man is more methodical and articulate than the whole Trump administration (a low bar admittedly but I’m talking about sophisticated systems here).
I couldn't agree more: a 30 yo woman dating a 17 yo IS predatory. I'm a high school teacher and let me tell you: you don't need more than 3 minutes of conversation with them to see that they are still BOYS. I don't care if they look older; psychologically, they are way closer to childhood than to adulthood. It pains me to think about all the kids she manipulated. That video of hers with the boys from a band was honestly difficult to watch.
Honestly, this whole situation is horrifying. I watched D'Angelo's video last night and I had to skip past that interview with those kids in that band. It was so incredibly uncomfortable and just horrible in general.
a few people tried coming for D'angelo but he always just likes their comments or makes them seem super petty by not indulging the bad behaviors it's great.
Se Se imagine hating someone you don’t even know at that level. I’m not even a fan of Selena but she’s never done anything that bad. I’d even say she turned out pretty well for being a child star. Shallon acts like she’s Hitler.
TW r*pe My husband’s first sexual encounter was not consensual. He is still sexually traumatized by that experience. He was also preyed upon by a 45 year old woman when he was 18. When she said it’s almost impossible for men to be sexually traumatized, my jaw and stomach dropped. She has no idea what she’s talking about or who she hurts. I’m so glad people like you and D’angelo and As Told By Kenya are calling her td out. It’s about time.
Alysaurus Rex Thats so sad, I hope your husband is coping well. People need to start realizing power comes from more then just physical strength and that trauma is not limited by gender.
Twitter would’ve also disabled his account if he really did dox her. She’s finally getting called out for her shitty behavior and now she’s trying to play victim.
Well...i think the problem for Shannon is she's stuck in 2009. That kind of tabloid, super personal, very opinionated in a very wendy William's type of way was extremely popular. In fact, it was the norm. She was the paparazzi that got in your face and then sued you if you didnt like it. Now we are more sensitive, paparazzi has changed, TMZ is painfully dying out....celebrity gossip isn't what people care about anymore (not adults anyway). We're passed that time now. She's really good at being a Wendy, that's probably why she was on TV and had her jobs. She's still desperately holding on to that culture and...homegirl is a "boomer" in that sense.
I agree. And because people were liking her delivery she kept it up and then took it up several notches. Also, the more her channel grew the more comfortable she felt "letting it all hang out." So, I think it is a mixture of her laying on it thick, and also showing more of who she really is. Either was it's a huge problem. I used to watch her, but the more videos I watched, the more I found myself disagreeing with her. She says the most outlandish things.
@@MISTRESSVALO I am 38 so pretty much same generation it is embarrassing especially because you could tell she was not 35 this whole time sadly she is stuck in time and is trying hard to be part of this younger millennial group. In addition, to everything else.
She either worked for Wendi WIlliams or was on her show several times. She is/was an editor for Ok magazine. I can't remember everything but if you look her up (that isn't her site), aside from some MTV show, her whole working life has been working for tabloids. So that along with her saying she was diagnosed as a narcissist explains ALL her behavior.
She is grooming young men, and she knows it. It pisses me off that she calls herself a feminist, and all she does all day on the Internet is hate other women and then she reducing the whole drama around her to just people hating strong women.
Yeah I'm psychologist and feminist, and... her pretending to be the latter irked me more! I came across her channel some time before Halloween last year, and binged some videos without subscribing. She is entertaining, funny. And her misuse of psychology was so irritating, but a lot of actual psychologists are doing it online (yikes to Jordan Peterson, and Kati Morton to name a few). I commented, but... goes with the territory, everyone knows _people_ 🤷🏻 And her (white/pop) feminism was... well, expectable. But! when she made Halloween special, how to be evil or something - and then it wasn't joking, slightly naughty but advice how to actually use people, to do work for you, that's not their job, and present as yours - lying you're doing them a favor by dealing with impatient boss (iirc) And something about how weak/desparate single mothers are, that makes them perfect target for this. I felt actually sick. And she's selling feminist merch. 😡
@@aleka.. oh my god that's disgusting :( that's so disrespectful to both the field of psychology and what feminism stands for, not to mention the people she has actively harmed through her grooming and other manipulating
wilfing that woman is so charismatic it’s dangerous. I was watching some of her videos to just see more of how shitty she is, i was about to binge her videos because she is so charming. I don’t mean to compliment her, but honestly her charisma almost get me and I think that’s why she has a huge following. People who aren’t as “concerned” with stuff like mental health and similar topics wouldn’t even notice all the garbage she is saying because of her charm. She is so manipulative on so many levels, I have known so many people to cheat their way through life but I have never met someone who would go to those lengths, so much so she has target victims (single mothers).
Outta curiosity, I googled Star's credibility. Outta 5 tabloids here's the rank-- 1.) US Weekly with 59% accuracy... 2.) Life & Style 3.) In Touch 4.) Ok! 5.) Star.... 12% accuracy.... Lol Katie Holmes sued them in 2011 for $50 million for defamation. They settled for an undisclosed amount....
You know someone like her is lying when they can’t even come up with the “proof” that they’re being attacked. Her whole career is based off of what she thinks and not the actual facts. I’m glad people are coming to their senses now and not tolerating her nonsense anymore.
ADITI PATTANAIK she blames Selena Gomez’s fans for being the reason why the woman will one day kill herself because of her “addiction” but look at Shallon’s own fans. She’s giving them the wrong advice and they’ll go use her words on other people that could potentially threaten their lives.
I’ve been a HUGE Shallon fan for a long time. She’s actually who inspired me to start my own channel (no, my content is not like hers). But it was D’angelo’s last video that really drew the line in the sand for me - I simply cannot be a fan anymore. I’m 28, and seeing that video of her at 29 years old, throwing herself at those 18 year old boys, and just the VAST difference in maturity/developmental levels between the two of them made me feel sick. I cannot even fathom interacting with an 18 year old in that way. Sure, it’s legal. But use your fucking judgement. WHY would you even want to hit on someone so far away from you in terms of maturity, experience etc etc. It’s clearly a power thing and I find that so, so gross.
Ashley Nord i just wanna say i have mad respect for you for being able really look at someone you admire through a critical lens and call them on their bullshit. i know that shit is hard to do and it genuinely hurts to leave the things you’ve enjoyed about their content behind. PS: nothing about her invalidates you as a content creator, keep doing what you love, boo.
It is gross!! also she loves to talk about celebrities being in different ‘life arenas’ and how you shouldn’t date someone out of that when she tried to drag Scott Disick and Sophia Richie however she can talk about loving younger guys because they ‘listen’ aka easier to manipulate. I can’t trust someone who is predatory and hypocritical its pathetic at this point that people still support her
I just turned 22 and would never behave like that with an 18 year old. She definitely has predator vibes and I hate to be that person but if the gender was switched, everyone would see the problem.
Sccglygha thank you! I really appreciate that. Absolutely, it’s so hard to take a step back and look at someone you have admired for so long in an objective way. But I would be betraying what I believe in and know to be right if I defended her after everything that’s been presented.
Coming from someone who was a fan of Shallon's until seeing d'Angelo's first video, this whole situation sucks. The worst part for me though is how I *knew* how some of the things she said brought up discomfort in me but because of the way she forms her arguments I was motivated to ignore her problematic behavior. Having it all put together and seeing the updated content from commentary RUclipsrs is so important. I am a trusting person, and that failed me in this case. I can only imagine the harm her content is doing to people who are more impressionable. I can't say I support her any longer, and I just hope to trust my gut more in the future when someone is behaving so reprehensibly.
The exact same thing happened to me with the Rewired Soul, so when I saw her video on Ellen I was able to see what was happening immediately. But if I hadn't had that miserable experience already I probably would've become a fan of hers too - try not to be too hard on yourself!
THANK you I relate to this so much! I have gained a lot from watching her videos. Her advice about body confidence has genuinely helped and healed me. But it's crazy seeing all of the problems put together in the light and looking back on the times that I have been bothered by what she says. Her remarks about Pete Davidson and how borderline personality disorder cannot be treated and those who have it are not worthy of love.
Aaliyah Jenkins girl same. She actually helped me realize I was in a really unhealthy relationship and so I took that as “okay maybe she knows what she’s talking about”. Although her comments rubbed me the wrong way, it’s like her “amazing” advice made up for it. I’m quite trusting too and I actually feel really stupid about all this right now... the moment she made her Selena Gomez video about how she faked having bi polar as an excuse is when i everything turned around. Her videos have gotten more and more malicious and that was kind of the icing on the cake for me. At least we know now.
It's astounding to see that a kid (I see him as a kid, I'm way older than him, or at least I look older than) like D'Angelo, show more maturity and poise in one video, than an almost 40 year-old woman in ALL her videos! I think her brain got stuck in high school or something.
I'm waiting on RUclips to contact her and to cancel her channel. Yes, she may be making a living out of those videos, but those same videos are still out there. It's not like she is deleting all of them any time soon. She is still misinforming people about those celebrities and talking about harmful stuff. I want her canceled even if the cancel culture is getting annoying. She is toxic.
@MsYogaGrrrl why are you armchair diagnosing someone who's getting challenged for armchair diagnosing people? She needs to be called out but not be doing the same thing back to her.
Or get over yourself? She tells women how to safely leave violent partners on that podcast. It isn't even about celebrities. Buy hey, anything to make yourself feel better.
Even tho this is a bad situation, I’m glad people are now finding Dangelo! I’ve been following him forever bc of his well researched and artsy commentary vids
The fact that she accused a young black man of a serious accusation for just criticizing her is pretty messed up and does not make her look good at all.
Get help. For days now you've been going under nearly every comment of several videos and salivating over your keyboard as you type out pitiful defenses. The obsession you have with her is creepy, highlighted only by the fact that these other RUclipsrs are providing solid and factual critique for Shallow's inexcusable behavior. Says a lot about your own intellectually arrested development.
I mean people really need to open their eyes. it shouldn’t take another person with a platform to show others the light when it’s right in front of everyone’s faces on social media and RUclips. I don’t understand how people don’t see something that’s right in front of their faces. With shallon especially.
Sophie PenDragon I had never ever heard her name before and I don’t like kpop so I would’ve never known this was happening. Her audience is specific and not many others had seen what she was putting out. I’m glad Dangelo shed light on this story. She deserves all this.
The fact that she posted this on her reddit still baffles me - like D’angelo said, if she wanted it to be private she could’ve posted it on a platform that could be made private!
dude im A TEENAGER and my bf just turned 17. we work at the same place, and the owner is around shallons age... i cant imagine that. also, guys stop saying shallon acts like a teenager, its offensive to teenagers. ;) (like how shallons "feminism" is offensive to feminists)
This is a really good point. I forget sometimes how I felt when people said that when I was a teenager. Teenagers are super smart and deserve WAY more credit.
If my IRL friends say racist, homophobic xenophobic or anything else like that I would totally call them out. I would do it as diplomatically as possible of course. But I dont feel "weird" about holding my friends accountable
If you have to constantly point out that "technically" you're boyfriend/boys you like are of age in a specific state, etc., then you have some predatory tendencies. It's the same as Onision. Technically it's not illegal, but it sure is creepy.
Even with friends... you need to call out your friends when they do something shitty. A good friend tells you when you are doing something wrong or hurtful. You are helping your friend grow by showing them how their actions/words can hurt.
Talking about that I happened came across of her friend who said she knew about where all her sources came from in which she replied to me her in laws or her fans provided her . Lol 😆
As a Shallon fan, I really liked the advice she gave in some of her videos and it has made me open to see the different perspectives on situations about relationships. But I have to say that I always took her "celebrity gossip" stuff veeeeery lightly, not only because of the lack of resources, but because we should always be respectful about ANYONE'S life or decisions, celebrity or not! We never know the full truth of everything. I am glad she is being held accountable for many of her controversial and rude comments, I did get to notice them, but I thought people simply did not take them seriously and took them as Shallon's attempt to grow that '*gasp* drama' factor in her videos. Thanks to D'Angelo's video, I realized it was all SERIOUSLY wrong!!! Love Smokey's take on it as well!
i’m so glad you’re speaking out on her. she showed up in my recommended and when i watched her videos i was appalled. i couldn’t believe the stuff she was saying.
I saw D'angelos newest video today and oh man did he go in and brought the research. I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say. Edit: just watched the video and am glad to see that you're sharing his google doc. I thought he did a brilliant job, and I really appreciated your insight as well talking about how these people have to be kept accountable. I always wondered how people even knew if someone had "stans." Now I realize they actually threatened and Dm'd you which is insane to me. So thank you for helping speak up about this. She's really gotten away with it for so long.
I found alot fans defending her are really young and super impressionable cause the thing most of them are saying is her working for Star magazine is why they thought she was credible and I'm like Star magazine never been credible and I was teen in early to mid 2000's at imo was height tabloid culture, no one took that magazine seriously, it was par with National Enquirer and their photos of high profile celebs were mostly photoshopped poorly.
@@faithmeetsfiction I mean if you were deep into celeb culture as I was as kid and teen, the only magazine that were credible was People (I was on the monthly teen people subscription) and US weekly when gossip as those were the only two who could get A-Listers to give them interviews and had the credible photos. Star would be grouped with NAtional Enquirer when sold at grocery store and only a Z-lister would talk to Star. Someone did list on ranking of who was credible as magazine for celeb news and Star was ranked at the bottom. To me the big sign about Star was photos on their covers were badly photoshopped. Like I said indulge in this a kid and teen in early and mid 2000s. Photos were shitty looking that was heads up it was trash. So her working at Star means she had no connections. If she said People or US Weekly she would be credible.
I really feel bad for D’angelo, he brought up this point in his video and it’s very true and concerning: he’s in the age category of men that Shallon goes after and manipulates. She needs to be stopped
I just don’t understand why Shallon thought it was a good idea to lie on d’angelo like that, she just dug herself into a deeper hole. If she wanted this all to blow over I really don’t understand why she went straight to slandering someone and levying serious, criminal allegations against them (that can easily be disproven).
lazy most likely because that’s what narcissists do. I’m not diagnosing her either she has said on a video she is a diagnosed narcissist. So when someone calls out a narcissist they go on a smear campaign and their ego is so huge they can’t imagine someone won’t believe their lies even if they have no proof.
@@bellafiga5999 I'm going to be like Shallon and diagnose. Lol. To me it is rather borderline pd. She decided D'Angelo is "evil", so now she is trying to prove he is. She might even have convinced herself he actually did these things. Add in her hypersexual and inappropriate behavior, her anger. TBH I think she self diagnosed as a narcissist because it sounds more like vanity and doesn't always have a bad connotation attached as much as other disorders.
Lol cops in his town are on it. You'd think they'd drop it if they had nothing. So weird that they haven't though! He couldn't make a woman do as he told her & is still so mad about it. Wait until he gets what's coming for him.
@@katiej8295 sis you can't just claim that police are investigating and expect us to believe you, it's not like you're the cop who's doing the investigation lol ALSO he's a 20-something years old whose only """crime""" is to have called out a FORTY YEARS OLD WOMAN on her gross beheaviour get a life
I don't understand the people saying we shouldn't take her seriously, especially after seeing criticisms of what she says. The topics she's discussing are serious. She's offering serious advice for a price. She should be taken seriously because of her ability to manipulate. She gives off the 'cool aunt' vibe that a lot of younger people gravitate towards, and it can cause people to overlook the harmful things she does and says in the moment.
Smokey: “Your not Hannah Montana, not everybody makes THOSE mistakes” Me: Watching Hannah Montana on Hulu being blown asf that Smokey Said that while I was watching Hannah Montana
I started watching Shalons videos about a year ago and at first I thought she was kinda funny. But over the past 6/7 months. I've noticed her videos getting really.....bad. I was wondering when commentary channels would notice her because some of the tgibgs she says WOAH. I haven't watched her regularly since probably October because she started acting like she had a psychology degree and not like the gossip editor she once was.
I really like hi friends just cause it’s gender neutral p: thank you for calling her out for her transphobia, with how she talks about people in general I was pretty much expecting it, but it’s nice to have someone call it out
MrsAlmightyKey basically emasculated asian men. Said they look like girls and sht if they chose to wear makeup and stuff and that they should act more like the “men” they are (and that’s one among stuff even worse she said), as if the only way to be a man is the “western” way. And it’s very wrong of her to try to force her views of the world as a white women on POCs like tf
I spent 13 years in college and graduate schools, to obtain a PhD in Clinical Psychology. When I see people like Shallon playing armchair Psychologist, I become so terribly concerned. The damage she causes makes my job that much more challenging. Broken people should not be subject to frauds like Ms. Lester.
I am super impressed by how D'Angelo is handling this issue. The fact of the matter is her making false claims about him doxing her is extremely damaging and can be considered defamation. She really shouldn't have thought that just because he falls into the age range of the young men she usually manipulates that he would allow her to manipulate the situation against him. This is a situation that shows true character.
I'm a recovering opiate addict and I've been struggling really bad lately. I'm an OG fan. I've been watching you for years. I haven't relapsed but I've had tunnel vision lately thinking about it then your videos popped up and I've been binge rewatching. Thank you for being you Hannah. I know it sounds corny but you just might have saved my life this week. 💞💞💞
So I just wanna say Hannah that I LIVE for your commentary videos literally about anything. You present your opinions in such a pleasant and articulate way that shows how intelligent you are. LOVE YOU
"Past the point of reasonable behavior." Sooooo yoooou mean stans. Stans are why she's still a thing. Why problematic youtubers never get properly called out. Because stans. Thanks I hate it
You can call me a ‘Shalloner’ but now that all these videos are coming out it is definitely bringing light and awareness to it. I find her entertaining for sure but she is extremely problematic. It feels like since the quarantine she’s definitely going stir-crazy and more bitter and it’s definitely becoming more noticeable the longer it’s going on
three views, one minute ago? Wow. I never thought I'd be this early. I love that your fiance was throwing a party for him and the dog. That's the cutest thing ever.
Omg I love you🤣 “He’s having a dance party with the dog downstairs...and I don’t want to rain on that parade.” Girl yasss I literally we spit out my drink👑👏🏽 Edit: also never clicked so 💨 fast!
It’s funny that both you and d’angelo have both said “you can’t fix the problem without admitting to it/ recognizing it” because that’s advice she gives on her channel ALL THE TIME. She just can’t follow it 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I hadn't even heard of her until a few days ago, when I had been watching an interview clip of Ryan Reynolds and then suddenly, her bizarre video about his marriage popped up in my recommended. This was before I'd seen any commentary videos on her and as I was watching the whole time, I'm like how the hell does she know any of this stuff and why is she passing it off as fact! Little did I know how crazy the situation really is. I really liked both your videos on this issue and it's really wonderful to see you supporting D'Angelo throughout this as well.
I don’t think it’s coincidental that my phone autocorrects Shallon to “Shallow”. Thank you for part 2! I hope RUclips really reevaluates some of her content because it DEFINITELY falls under the “Hateful & abusive” umbrella. Nicely done ❤️
I watched D'Angelo's first after I saw Pierre XO's and then watch D'Angelo's response video and now this one. I'm like both D'Angelo's and Pierre XO's take on Shallon Lester and I love the support he is getting on RUclips. As for Justn Bieber - she also made that comment on The Wendy Williams Show and Wendy was shocked and said that you don't mean that!.
I'm not sure why the lying about her age blew my mind the most 😅 Shes almost 40 and acting like a tween. Oh Shallon if she really cares about her fans and her job she'd grow and change for real but for some reason I fear that wont happen.
As a long-time fan of both you and Shallon, these videos have been challenging for me. I agree that she’s crossed the line multiple times, and has exhibited some really problematic behaviors. I also think that she’s an intelligent, tough women who uses her talents in creative ways. Her videos have given me laughter and advice during some really hard times. Part of me feels like she should be fully open to criticism since she uses her channel to critique celebrities, and should be able to take what she dishes out. At the same time, I’m a little bit disturbed by the number of people who never talked about her channel before coming out of the woodwork to tear her down, and compiling lists of every bad thing she’s ever said or done in her very public career. I do think she should make changes going forward and provide a better apology for her mistakes. Still, the sheer amount of criticism she’s suddenly receiving on every platform seems like one more example of internet cancel culture going a little bit too far. Whether you agree with me or not, I’d highly recommend watching the “Canceling” video by Contrapoints. It’s long but worth the view.
I don't usually watch your stuff but I really value these more serious videos that you make sometimes. You always have really good points, you always bring up things that other's haven't discussed yet and it's always really easy to follow your thought process. Edit: Oh and you're funny as well :)
I just started watching her two or three weeks ago, browsing RUclips; bored, during quarantine... then drama comes out about her everywhere!!! It amazes me what she gets away with!!!!
I watched D'Angelo, per your recommendation from your last video on S. I watched his new video too. I love that you say your thoughts on this, without saying the same thing D'Angelo had to say. Watching his content is very informative, he is a very well spoken young man and I wish him the best. Great job on standing up for the right thing, as always Hannah! ♥️✌️
I actually watched D’Angelo’s 40 min video and watching the clips from her videos was so uncomfortable. I don’t understand how even her subscribers can watch her and not feel like they are watching a manipulative bully.
I used to watch your videos all the time before, and forgot about you because I've gone off the internet for some time. And now I found you again!!!! Cannot wait to watch all your videos I've missed. Ly!
I’m shook that your from the same city I am, as I’ve been watching you for such a long time ! Always hoping I run into you in an Ulta or at Park Ave fest or something 🤣 Love love love your videos Hannah! Keep being awesome!
I've been waiting for someone to actually point out how toxic and unhelpful Shallon's content is! I was already a fan of yours because you are so fair and balanced but this video and your approach to this RUclipsr has made me love your content even more!!
DEAR SHALLON I KNOW YOUD BE READING THE COMMENTS SO HERE YA GO As someone with BPD I have a few words for you. 1- I am not an evil person. I am someone who does have a chemical imbalance that I work on everyday. I am a good mother, I am a good wife and I am a good friend. And regardless of my mental health issues I have never in my life said even 5% of the evil nonsense you have spewed onto others. I am not here to label you or insult you, you’ve done that for enough people. But I will also like to say “something happens in that house” you said that in regards to someone having BPD blaming their parents. I know why I have BPD, my father killed himself when I was 7. Changing my life forever, yes my parents were dysfunctional in their relationship and it’s mostly in part to their mental health issues and people LIKE YOU shallon who judged them, who told them they made excuses, told them to not talk about suicide if you’re not gonna do it. It’s people like you that set these standards and cause ripple effects. I fight everyday to be a better person mentally, emotionally and spiritually yet I get the label and you’re the angel while you sit in front of camera and spew nasty hateful things and get paid for it?
I also have BPD and her stating we don't get medication for it was hella egregious of her and very irritating. Putting out false information of us like that is why so many people with mental illnesses don't seek help.
I really love that you support and include other RUclipsrs. We need more of thst on this platform people supporting other people :) your makeup looks so good! Loving The eye look.
Even if she was actually your friend you should be calling this out. Infact you being her friend you should be the one screaming at her about it, what she is doing and has done is not okay!
what a fantastic video, hannah! i absolutely love your content, you are just so well spoken and thoughtful. whenever i watch your videos, i'm incredibly entertained and i learn something new. i'm glad that d'angelo isn't backing down from lester's basically cyberbullying and threats, as i feel she is spreading incredibly dangerous information. when i watched d'angelo's video, and he touched on the points about mental health and self-harm, hearing what she said was honestly so hurtful to me, as i've struggled through those experiences. i can't speak for anyone else, but i hope that youtube stops giving her a platform to spread misinformation. that being said, this was an absolutely fantastic video, you are just so intelligent and well-spoken with your responses, even when making videos in such a short amount of time. great job!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm a minute in, so have nothing to contribute to the subject matter but can I just say, your eye make up, with the hoodie and your complexion fucking SLAPS. This is by far my favorite look on you 👏👏👏 bravo.
To be fair...people don’t have to apologize if they don’t mean it. Clearly she means everything she said and while many people are offended she probably doesn’t care. I think it’s great that her behavior has been brought to her attention and if that’s all we get then hopefully she can change her ways. I rather she work on herself than give a half ass apology (btw I don’t agree with anything she’s done )
Less than a minute in, but I have to say that these videos remind me of the Kuckian days, and I'm loving it! Also your makeup is giving me "hot friendly goth girl" vibes and I am LIVING.
I said this on D'Angelo's video as well but the video clip he shared of her like, aggressively stroking one of the members of The Cab while interviewing him (when he admits on camera he just turned 18 and she's probably already in her late 20s) is so cringey. I'm something like 9 years younger than Shallon and the idea of dating a guy in his late teens or early 20s is just... not something I could even start to get my head around.
i love you you continually boost and defend d'angelo i found his channel through you and it's really great that you're giving him credit when it's due!!
I love this lip color on you! 😍 I always wanna pull off dark colors on my lips but I feel like they’re too small I’m gonna give it a try in hopes it looks as good as it does on you. Love your commentary videos!
A few days ago I had never even heard of Shallon Lester... yet here we are, 2 videos in, and I'm livid at this chick. All bad vibes aside, I absolutely love this Hoodie and Makeup Look. You're like a Grunge Orange Crush!
She said she was a witch in high school and when she got rejected by a guy, she said put a curse on him. She was so smug when she said two of his family members got cancer and one committed suicide. I can't believe she actually felt some sort of pride and joy from it.
“My fiancé is throwing a party for himself and the dog downstairs.” Your fiancé is a mood 😂
Amber C sounds like something I would do...or have already done...several times! 😂😂
I've had more than one cat that liked the dance parties. 😸
The last cat, that I had the longest, even had favorite music. He did NOT like 80s alternative rock, but loved old school R&B. 😹
I know i'm 9 months late to the party, but I stan YOU, Amber, fellow Smokey Glow subscriber, and I stan Smokey Glow 💖🙏🏻
@@alexisaschkenase5030 I am sooo past late- but I concur!
The way D'Angelo is handling this entire situation is incredible. Like it's low key inspirational lol.
Nadine Haddad it is ...so much grace and class 😩🙏
He’s seriously a fucking KING. I hope he’s doing okay through this insanity and knows EVERYONE is on his side.
TOTALLY AGREE, HE IS KING🤗😊
Nadine Haddad high key
That young man is more methodical and articulate than the whole Trump administration (a low bar admittedly but I’m talking about sophisticated systems here).
I couldn't agree more: a 30 yo woman dating a 17 yo IS predatory. I'm a high school teacher and let me tell you: you don't need more than 3 minutes of conversation with them to see that they are still BOYS. I don't care if they look older; psychologically, they are way closer to childhood than to adulthood. It pains me to think about all the kids she manipulated. That video of hers with the boys from a band was honestly difficult to watch.
Maybe she should change her first name to moe
I'm 26 and I still think I'm a child. Granted I was a victim of parentification so I never had this smooth transition to adulthood, but still.
Honestly, this whole situation is horrifying. I watched D'Angelo's video last night and I had to skip past that interview with those kids in that band. It was so incredibly uncomfortable and just horrible in general.
Shelbylee I did too, it was really hard to watch
When she said she usually dates people younger than them, and they were 18! I couldn't.
I tried to watch the whole interview but the boys looked so uncomfortable, I had to skip it at some point.
@@Mojichan13 which band was it ?
Coudy WANE the cab, opening for cobra starship at the time.
If you look at her subreddit now even her own fans are straight up calling her out and stopped supporting her, I’m glad Wallace isn’t backing down
Watched both of his videos on the situation and this woman is just full of disturbing behaviors...
look at the comment section on her new video today and its something....
@@PS-fk5zv yea...looks like she might be deleting comments but who knows
No many of us still support her
Cece E and many have stopped that’s why she hid her subscriber count sis 💀she was hemorrhaging subscribers
Shallon came after d’angelo but he handled it like a boss 😎
He’s a king
a few people tried coming for D'angelo but he always just likes their comments or makes them seem super petty by not indulging the bad behaviors it's great.
He so did! Really classy, intelligent guy.
It’s was go graceful the way he clap back. All facts!
Se Se imagine hating someone you don’t even know at that level. I’m not even a fan of Selena but she’s never done anything that bad. I’d even say she turned out pretty well for being a child star. Shallon acts like she’s Hitler.
TW r*pe
My husband’s first sexual encounter was not consensual. He is still sexually traumatized by that experience. He was also preyed upon by a 45 year old woman when he was 18. When she said it’s almost impossible for men to be sexually traumatized, my jaw and stomach dropped. She has no idea what she’s talking about or who she hurts. I’m so glad people like you and D’angelo and As Told By Kenya are calling her td out. It’s about time.
Alysaurus Rex Thats so sad, I hope your husband is coping well. People need to start realizing power comes from more then just physical strength and that trauma is not limited by gender.
Thank you!!!
Congratulations on your marriage. I'm praying for your husband. God bless you.
I hope your husband is coping well and I totally agree with you ! 💞💸💯
I’ll just say I’m so glad your husband has you on my side, because there are so many women who think the same as Shallon. All the best to you both!!
Twitter would’ve also disabled his account if he really did dox her. She’s finally getting called out for her shitty behavior and now she’s trying to play victim.
Funny how she always call Taylor Swift playing the victim but nowww
romanoff hahaha!! True!
Well...i think the problem for Shannon is she's stuck in 2009. That kind of tabloid, super personal, very opinionated in a very wendy William's type of way was extremely popular. In fact, it was the norm. She was the paparazzi that got in your face and then sued you if you didnt like it.
Now we are more sensitive, paparazzi has changed, TMZ is painfully dying out....celebrity gossip isn't what people care about anymore (not adults anyway). We're passed that time now.
She's really good at being a Wendy, that's probably why she was on TV and had her jobs. She's still desperately holding on to that culture and...homegirl is a "boomer" in that sense.
*Shallon.😉
She's my age and just makes me feel second hand embarrassment.🤦🏻♀️
I agree. And because people were liking her delivery she kept it up and then took it up several notches. Also, the more her channel grew the more comfortable she felt "letting it all hang out." So, I think it is a mixture of her laying on it thick, and also showing more of who she really is. Either was it's a huge problem. I used to watch her, but the more videos I watched, the more I found myself disagreeing with her. She says the most outlandish things.
@@MISTRESSVALO I am 38 so pretty much same generation it is embarrassing especially because you could tell she was not 35 this whole time sadly she is stuck in time and is trying hard to be part of this younger millennial group. In addition, to everything else.
She either worked for Wendi WIlliams or was on her show several times. She is/was an editor for Ok magazine. I can't remember everything but if you look her up (that isn't her site), aside from some MTV show, her whole working life has been working for tabloids. So that along with her saying she was diagnosed as a narcissist explains ALL her behavior.
@@shellme79 She creeps me out.😖😖😖
She is grooming young men, and she knows it. It pisses me off that she calls herself a feminist, and all she does all day on the Internet is hate other women and then she reducing the whole drama around her to just people hating strong women.
Yeah
I'm psychologist and feminist, and... her pretending to be the latter irked me more!
I came across her channel some time before Halloween last year, and binged some videos without subscribing. She is entertaining, funny.
And her misuse of psychology was so irritating, but a lot of actual psychologists are doing it online (yikes to Jordan Peterson, and Kati Morton to name a few).
I commented, but... goes with the territory, everyone knows _people_ 🤷🏻
And her (white/pop) feminism was... well, expectable.
But! when she made Halloween special, how to be evil or something - and then it wasn't joking, slightly naughty
but advice how to actually use people, to do work for you, that's not their job, and present as yours - lying you're doing them a favor by dealing with impatient boss (iirc)
And something about how weak/desparate single mothers are, that makes them perfect target for this.
I felt actually sick.
And she's selling feminist merch.
😡
@@aleka.. oh my god that's disgusting :( that's so disrespectful to both the field of psychology and what feminism stands for, not to mention the people she has actively harmed through her grooming and other manipulating
She's actually one of the most misogynistic women I ever had the displeasure to listen to.
wilfing that woman is so charismatic it’s dangerous. I was watching some of her videos to just see more of how shitty she is, i was about to binge her videos because she is so charming. I don’t mean to compliment her, but honestly her charisma almost get me and I think that’s why she has a huge following. People who aren’t as “concerned” with stuff like mental health and similar topics wouldn’t even notice all the garbage she is saying because of her charm. She is so manipulative on so many levels, I have known so many people to cheat their way through life but I have never met someone who would go to those lengths, so much so she has target victims (single mothers).
Outta curiosity, I googled Star's credibility. Outta 5 tabloids here's the rank--
1.) US Weekly with 59% accuracy...
2.) Life & Style
3.) In Touch
4.) Ok!
5.) Star.... 12% accuracy.... Lol
Katie Holmes sued them in 2011 for $50 million for defamation. They settled for an undisclosed amount....
This makes sense. Lol. US tends to collaborate with celeb's PR (like People); the others are complete rags with "spies".
12%?! That’s actually significantly higher than what I expected💀
Lmfao
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Receipts!
You know someone like her is lying when they can’t even come up with the “proof” that they’re being attacked. Her whole career is based off of what she thinks and not the actual facts. I’m glad people are coming to their senses now and not tolerating her nonsense anymore.
Exactly
The police in his town have it, honey. Petty RUclips videos might be how you think revenge goes but this is real life.
I don't understand why RUclips doesn't penalize her.
She is annoying to the core, just go take a look at the shallow crowd in her comment section which idolize her!
ADITI PATTANAIK she blames Selena Gomez’s fans for being the reason why the woman will one day kill herself because of her “addiction” but look at Shallon’s own fans. She’s giving them the wrong advice and they’ll go use her words on other people that could potentially threaten their lives.
I’ve been a HUGE Shallon fan for a long time. She’s actually who inspired me to start my own channel (no, my content is not like hers). But it was D’angelo’s last video that really drew the line in the sand for me - I simply cannot be a fan anymore. I’m 28, and seeing that video of her at 29 years old, throwing herself at those 18 year old boys, and just the VAST difference in maturity/developmental levels between the two of them made me feel sick. I cannot even fathom interacting with an 18 year old in that way. Sure, it’s legal. But use your fucking judgement. WHY would you even want to hit on someone so far away from you in terms of maturity, experience etc etc. It’s clearly a power thing and I find that so, so gross.
Ashley Nord i just wanna say i have mad respect for you for being able really look at someone you admire through a critical lens and call them on their bullshit. i know that shit is hard to do and it genuinely hurts to leave the things you’ve enjoyed about their content behind. PS: nothing about her invalidates you as a content creator, keep doing what you love, boo.
It is gross!! also she loves to talk about celebrities being in different ‘life arenas’ and how you shouldn’t date someone out of that when she tried to drag Scott Disick and Sophia Richie however she can talk about loving younger guys because they ‘listen’ aka easier to manipulate. I can’t trust someone who is predatory and hypocritical its pathetic at this point that people still support her
honestly same!
I just turned 22 and would never behave like that with an 18 year old. She definitely has predator vibes and I hate to be that person but if the gender was switched, everyone would see the problem.
Sccglygha thank you! I really appreciate that. Absolutely, it’s so hard to take a step back and look at someone you have admired for so long in an objective way. But I would be betraying what I believe in and know to be right if I defended her after everything that’s been presented.
Coming from someone who was a fan of Shallon's until seeing d'Angelo's first video, this whole situation sucks. The worst part for me though is how I *knew* how some of the things she said brought up discomfort in me but because of the way she forms her arguments I was motivated to ignore her problematic behavior. Having it all put together and seeing the updated content from commentary RUclipsrs is so important. I am a trusting person, and that failed me in this case. I can only imagine the harm her content is doing to people who are more impressionable. I can't say I support her any longer, and I just hope to trust my gut more in the future when someone is behaving so reprehensibly.
Same!
The exact same thing happened to me with the Rewired Soul, so when I saw her video on Ellen I was able to see what was happening immediately. But if I hadn't had that miserable experience already I probably would've become a fan of hers too - try not to be too hard on yourself!
@@herefortheshrimp1469 Thank you so much!
THANK you I relate to this so much! I have gained a lot from watching her videos. Her advice about body confidence has genuinely helped and healed me. But it's crazy seeing all of the problems put together in the light and looking back on the times that I have been bothered by what she says. Her remarks about Pete Davidson and how borderline personality disorder cannot be treated and those who have it are not worthy of love.
Aaliyah Jenkins girl same. She actually helped me realize I was in a really unhealthy relationship and so I took that as “okay maybe she knows what she’s talking about”. Although her comments rubbed me the wrong way, it’s like her “amazing” advice made up for it. I’m quite trusting too and I actually feel really stupid about all this right now... the moment she made her Selena Gomez video about how she faked having bi polar as an excuse is when i everything turned around. Her videos have gotten more and more malicious and that was kind of the icing on the cake for me. At least we know now.
It's astounding to see that a kid (I see him as a kid, I'm way older than him, or at least I look older than) like D'Angelo, show more maturity and poise in one video, than an almost 40 year-old woman in ALL her videos! I think her brain got stuck in high school or something.
Yeah that's mind blowing but there are so many people who still think and act like teenagers.
I'm waiting on RUclips to contact her and to cancel her channel. Yes, she may be making a living out of those videos, but those same videos are still out there. It's not like she is deleting all of them any time soon. She is still misinforming people about those celebrities and talking about harmful stuff. I want her canceled even if the cancel culture is getting annoying. She is toxic.
He's 20 and so mature. I can't believe a 20 y/o is ten times more rational than a 39 y/o
@MsYogaGrrrl why are you armchair diagnosing someone who's getting challenged for armchair diagnosing people? She needs to be called out but not be doing the same thing back to her.
If you feel strongly about her morals and what she has said , leave feedback on her Apple podcast ratings. She can’t hide those!!!!!
The more you know and now I know more thanks so much.
Sharon Moore 💗
I wish we could share this!
Or get over yourself? She tells women how to safely leave violent partners on that podcast. It isn't even about celebrities. Buy hey, anything to make yourself feel better.
She's Circa if you’d like you can share by commenting the same on other videos created by others on YT who feel the same way we do 💗
Even tho this is a bad situation, I’m glad people are now finding Dangelo! I’ve been following him forever bc of his well researched and artsy commentary vids
Mel Barrera YES !!!! He’s awesome !!
Agreed its actually wholesome and entertaining
The fact that she accused a young black man of a serious accusation for just criticizing her is pretty messed up and does not make her look good at all.
oh shit .. i didn’t even think about it like that ..
Get help. For days now you've been going under nearly every comment of several videos and salivating over your keyboard as you type out pitiful defenses. The obsession you have with her is creepy, highlighted only by the fact that these other RUclipsrs are providing solid and factual critique for Shallow's inexcusable behavior. Says a lot about your own intellectually arrested development.
@@gelilasworld2173 Who are you talking about?
@@kristinonline4647 it was to crucibelle ^^^ but i guess there was some error in replying to her message.
Sabine de Vos very neatly summed.
D’ Angelo definitely informed us on who she is in general. Shallon needs to do a lot of growing up and to leave D’Angelo or anyone else alone
Is that you in the display picture? If so you have a very pleasant face
I think she wants him
Ascary Navarro I love how respectful you are in your dissent of her😊
nordette Thanks it is me
Bitter Topanga showing predatory behavior
“Does this sound like an mlm to anyone else?” 🤣🤣🤣
I thank D'Angelo if it weren't for him Shallon wouldn't be exposed this much.
ruben garcia didn’t you see K-POP tweets there going at her
I mean people really need to open their eyes. it shouldn’t take another person with a platform to show others the light when it’s right in front of everyone’s faces on social media and RUclips. I don’t understand how people don’t see something that’s right in front of their faces. With shallon especially.
Sophie PenDragon I had never ever heard her name before and I don’t like kpop so I would’ve never known this was happening. Her audience is specific and not many others had seen what she was putting out. I’m glad Dangelo shed light on this story. She deserves all this.
I had no idea who Shallon was until Smokey glow and D'Angelo 😂 I want them to collab SO BADD
"you're not special, you're just problematic af" if that aint the truth with these people
The fact that she posted this on her reddit still baffles me - like D’angelo said, if she wanted it to be private she could’ve posted it on a platform that could be made private!
dude im A TEENAGER and my bf just turned 17. we work at the same place, and the owner is around shallons age... i cant imagine that.
also, guys stop saying shallon acts like a teenager, its offensive to teenagers. ;) (like how shallons "feminism" is offensive to feminists)
This is a really good point. I forget sometimes how I felt when people said that when I was a teenager. Teenagers are super smart and deserve WAY more credit.
If my IRL friends say racist, homophobic xenophobic or anything else like that I would totally call them out. I would do it as diplomatically as possible of course. But I dont feel "weird" about holding my friends accountable
If you have to constantly point out that "technically" you're boyfriend/boys you like are of age in a specific state, etc., then you have some predatory tendencies. It's the same as Onision. Technically it's not illegal, but it sure is creepy.
Even with friends... you need to call out your friends when they do something shitty. A good friend tells you when you are doing something wrong or hurtful. You are helping your friend grow by showing them how their actions/words can hurt.
Talking about that I happened came across of her friend who said she knew about where all her sources came from in which she replied to me her in laws or her fans provided her . Lol
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As a Shallon fan, I really liked the advice she gave in some of her videos and it has made me open to see the different perspectives on situations about relationships. But I have to say that I always took her "celebrity gossip" stuff veeeeery lightly, not only because of the lack of resources, but because we should always be respectful about ANYONE'S life or decisions, celebrity or not! We never know the full truth of everything.
I am glad she is being held accountable for many of her controversial and rude comments, I did get to notice them, but I thought people simply did not take them seriously and took them as Shallon's attempt to grow that '*gasp* drama' factor in her videos. Thanks to D'Angelo's video, I realized it was all SERIOUSLY wrong!!! Love Smokey's take on it as well!
i’m so glad you’re speaking out on her. she showed up in my recommended and when i watched her videos i was appalled. i couldn’t believe the stuff she was saying.
I saw D'angelos newest video today and oh man did he go in and brought the research. I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say.
Edit: just watched the video and am glad to see that you're sharing his google doc. I thought he did a brilliant job, and I really appreciated your insight as well talking about how these people have to be kept accountable. I always wondered how people even knew if someone had "stans." Now I realize they actually threatened and Dm'd you which is insane to me. So thank you for helping speak up about this. She's really gotten away with it for so long.
I found alot fans defending her are really young and super impressionable cause the thing most of them are saying is her working for Star magazine is why they thought she was credible and I'm like Star magazine never been credible and I was teen in early to mid 2000's at imo was height tabloid culture, no one took that magazine seriously, it was par with National Enquirer and their photos of high profile celebs were mostly photoshopped poorly.
figt4acause Star is a JOKE lmao!
To be fair, I didn't question this because I'm totally unfamiliar with Star magazine. All celebrity magazines seem the same to me.
@@faithmeetsfiction I mean if you were deep into celeb culture as I was as kid and teen, the only magazine that were credible was People (I was on the monthly teen people subscription) and US weekly when gossip as those were the only two who could get A-Listers to give them interviews and had the credible photos. Star would be grouped with NAtional Enquirer when sold at grocery store and only a Z-lister would talk to Star. Someone did list on ranking of who was credible as magazine for celeb news and Star was ranked at the bottom. To me the big sign about Star was photos on their covers were badly photoshopped. Like I said indulge in this a kid and teen in early and mid 2000s. Photos were shitty looking that was heads up it was trash. So her working at Star means she had no connections. If she said People or US Weekly she would be credible.
Actually slander is spoken, libel is written, that's the word you are looking for.
Thank you! 😊 that’s really good to know!
@@smokey_glow haha no problem! As a journalism major it drives me nuts when people on twitter say they are being slandered🙈😅
@@smokey_glow I tend to use "defamation", the umbrella term for both libel and slander since I can't keep them straight lol
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I really feel bad for D’angelo, he brought up this point in his video and it’s very true and concerning: he’s in the age category of men that Shallon goes after and manipulates. She needs to be stopped
I just don’t understand why Shallon thought it was a good idea to lie on d’angelo like that, she just dug herself into a deeper hole. If she wanted this all to blow over I really don’t understand why she went straight to slandering someone and levying serious, criminal allegations against them (that can easily be disproven).
lazy most likely because that’s what narcissists do. I’m not diagnosing her either she has said on a video she is a diagnosed narcissist. So when someone calls out a narcissist they go on a smear campaign and their ego is so huge they can’t imagine someone won’t believe their lies even if they have no proof.
@@bellafiga5999 I'm going to be like Shallon and diagnose. Lol. To me it is rather borderline pd. She decided D'Angelo is "evil", so now she is trying to prove he is. She might even have convinced herself he actually did these things. Add in her hypersexual and inappropriate behavior, her anger. TBH I think she self diagnosed as a narcissist because it sounds more like vanity and doesn't always have a bad connotation attached as much as other disorders.
bellissima78 could be bpd, npd..definitely seems like some sort of cluster b behavior
Lol cops in his town are on it. You'd think they'd drop it if they had nothing. So weird that they haven't though! He couldn't make a woman do as he told her & is still so mad about it. Wait until he gets what's coming for him.
@@katiej8295 sis you can't just claim that police are investigating and expect us to believe you, it's not like you're the cop who's doing the investigation lol ALSO he's a 20-something years old whose only """crime""" is to have called out a FORTY YEARS OLD WOMAN on her gross beheaviour get a life
I don't understand the people saying we shouldn't take her seriously, especially after seeing criticisms of what she says. The topics she's discussing are serious. She's offering serious advice for a price. She should be taken seriously because of her ability to manipulate. She gives off the 'cool aunt' vibe that a lot of younger people gravitate towards, and it can cause people to overlook the harmful things she does and says in the moment.
Smokey: “Your not Hannah Montana, not everybody makes THOSE mistakes”
Me: Watching Hannah Montana on Hulu being blown asf that Smokey Said that while I was watching Hannah Montana
Antoine Louis King wait Hannah Montana is on Hulu??
Antoine Louis King you binge watched hm for a week I can smell it 👃
Antoine Louis King I’m not gonna lie binge watching Hannah Montana sounds pretty awesome right about now
Hannah Montana isn't on Hulu so why lie
Shallon is the level of predatory Tati and Jeffree wanted us to believe James Charles was at.
Lol smh no amount of predatory-ness is okay...🤣
Emily Lewis no....but really tho. The backlash he got is more than she’s getting and she’s ACTUALLY predatory.
@@nairabee245 Give her James' subcount and watch the battlefield.
this comment aged like milk lmao, turns out he actually was predatory (not defending Jeffree because fuck that)
So uh this comment has aged well...
I started watching Shalons videos about a year ago and at first I thought she was kinda funny. But over the past 6/7 months. I've noticed her videos getting really.....bad. I was wondering when commentary channels would notice her because some of the tgibgs she says WOAH. I haven't watched her regularly since probably October because she started acting like she had a psychology degree and not like the gossip editor she once was.
I really like hi friends just cause it’s gender neutral p: thank you for calling her out for her transphobia, with how she talks about people in general I was pretty much expecting it, but it’s nice to have someone call it out
She hasn't addressed her racism and is belittling anyone who says that hrr actions and words are serious and not ok
she used the “i have a black friend”-esque excuse in an attempt to defend herself
Wait what happened with her involving racism?
She said she had black friends when she was accused of being racist against Asian people which really says it all
@@Morganbmoney That was so baffling, and just speaks to how ignorant she really is.
MrsAlmightyKey basically emasculated asian men. Said they look like girls and sht if they chose to wear makeup and stuff and that they should act more like the “men” they are (and that’s one among stuff even worse she said), as if the only way to be a man is the “western” way. And it’s very wrong of her to try to force her views of the world as a white women on POCs like tf
ok this makeup look with this hoodie is FIRE. pair it with those beyoncé ivy park sneakers and DAMN 🔥
I spent 13 years in college and graduate schools, to obtain a PhD in Clinical Psychology. When I see people like Shallon playing armchair Psychologist, I become so terribly concerned. The damage she causes makes my job that much more challenging. Broken people should not be subject to frauds like Ms. Lester.
Something you said really reminded me of "see something, say something". It's important to point out when people are being predatory to protect others
I am super impressed by how D'Angelo is handling this issue. The fact of the matter is her making false claims about him doxing her is extremely damaging and can be considered defamation. She really shouldn't have thought that just because he falls into the age range of the young men she usually manipulates that he would allow her to manipulate the situation against him. This is a situation that shows true character.
Ok but I need to hear more about the puppy dance party. 😆
We need footage too. For science.
Truth
Yaas!
I'm a recovering opiate addict and I've been struggling really bad lately. I'm an OG fan. I've been watching you for years. I haven't relapsed but I've had tunnel vision lately thinking about it then your videos popped up and I've been binge rewatching. Thank you for being you Hannah. I know it sounds corny but you just might have saved my life this week. 💞💞💞
plus did anyone notice in her bio it says "author - editor - PREDATOR"???
So I just wanna say Hannah that I LIVE for your commentary videos literally about anything. You present your opinions in such a pleasant and articulate way that shows how intelligent you are. LOVE YOU
"Past the point of reasonable behavior."
Sooooo yoooou mean stans. Stans are why she's still a thing. Why problematic youtubers never get properly called out. Because stans. Thanks I hate it
Something about you warms my heart.
You can call me a ‘Shalloner’ but now that all these videos are coming out it is definitely bringing light and awareness to it. I find her entertaining for sure but she is extremely problematic. It feels like since the quarantine she’s definitely going stir-crazy and more bitter and it’s definitely becoming more noticeable the longer it’s going on
Used to occasionally watch her videos and she was like this long before quarantine😬
Please watch PIERRE XO's video about this
Zo Fox, maybe because she can’t troll the high schools for dates.
@@misscatalina711 😂😂😂👍
“You’re not Hannah Montana” lmfao😆😆
three views, one minute ago? Wow. I never thought I'd be this early.
I love that your fiance was throwing a party for him and the dog. That's the cutest thing ever.
Omg I love you🤣
“He’s having a dance party with the dog downstairs...and I don’t want to rain on that parade.”
Girl yasss I literally we spit out my drink👑👏🏽
Edit: also never clicked so 💨 fast!
I'm glad you addressed the "friends" issue. A lot of people need to re-evaluate their definition of a real friend.
It’s funny that both you and d’angelo have both said “you can’t fix the problem without admitting to it/ recognizing it” because that’s advice she gives on her channel ALL THE TIME. She just can’t follow it 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I hadn't even heard of her until a few days ago, when I had been watching an interview clip of Ryan Reynolds and then suddenly, her bizarre video about his marriage popped up in my recommended. This was before I'd seen any commentary videos on her and as I was watching the whole time, I'm like how the hell does she know any of this stuff and why is she passing it off as fact!
Little did I know how crazy the situation really is. I really liked both your videos on this issue and it's really wonderful to see you supporting D'Angelo throughout this as well.
Who apologises on reddit? 😩
I don’t think it’s coincidental that my phone autocorrects Shallon to “Shallow”.
Thank you for part 2! I hope RUclips really reevaluates some of her content because it DEFINITELY falls under the “Hateful & abusive” umbrella. Nicely done ❤️
Fully agree with everything she said but also in awe of Hannah’s eye makeup right now 🥳🥰
I watched D'Angelo's first after I saw Pierre XO's and then watch D'Angelo's response video and now this one. I'm like both D'Angelo's and Pierre XO's take on Shallon Lester and I love the support he is getting on RUclips.
As for Justn Bieber - she also made that comment on The Wendy Williams Show and Wendy was shocked and said that you don't mean that!.
I'm not sure why the lying about her age blew my mind the most 😅 Shes almost 40 and acting like a tween. Oh Shallon if she really cares about her fans and her job she'd grow and change for real but for some reason I fear that wont happen.
i love the way ur makeup matches ur hoodie!
Thank you! I was actually inspired by the colors on the hoodie!
As a long-time fan of both you and Shallon, these videos have been challenging for me. I agree that she’s crossed the line multiple times, and has exhibited some really problematic behaviors. I also think that she’s an intelligent, tough women who uses her talents in creative ways. Her videos have given me laughter and advice during some really hard times. Part of me feels like she should be fully open to criticism since she uses her channel to critique celebrities, and should be able to take what she dishes out. At the same time, I’m a little bit disturbed by the number of people who never talked about her channel before coming out of the woodwork to tear her down, and compiling lists of every bad thing she’s ever said or done in her very public career. I do think she should make changes going forward and provide a better apology for her mistakes. Still, the sheer amount of criticism she’s suddenly receiving on every platform seems like one more example of internet cancel culture going a little bit too far. Whether you agree with me or not, I’d highly recommend watching the “Canceling” video by Contrapoints. It’s long but worth the view.
I'm just picturing Charles and the puppy having a crazy rager downstairs 😆😆😆
I don't usually watch your stuff but I really value these more serious videos that you make sometimes. You always have really good points, you always bring up things that other's haven't discussed yet and it's always really easy to follow your thought process.
Edit: Oh and you're funny as well :)
I just started watching her two or three weeks ago, browsing RUclips; bored, during quarantine... then drama comes out about her everywhere!!! It amazes me what she gets away with!!!!
But wamen most affected!
I watched D'Angelo, per your recommendation from your last video on S. I watched his new video too. I love that you say your thoughts on this, without saying the same thing D'Angelo had to say. Watching his content is very informative, he is a very well spoken young man and I wish him the best. Great job on standing up for the right thing, as always Hannah! ♥️✌️
I actually watched D’Angelo’s 40 min video and watching the clips from her videos was so uncomfortable. I don’t understand how even her subscribers can watch her and not feel like they are watching a manipulative bully.
I used to watch your videos all the time before, and forgot about you because I've gone off the internet for some time. And now I found you again!!!! Cannot wait to watch all your videos I've missed. Ly!
I’m shook that your from the same city I am, as I’ve been watching you for such a long time ! Always hoping I run into you in an Ulta or at Park Ave fest or something 🤣 Love love love your videos Hannah! Keep being awesome!
Ah! If you ever see me come say hi!
Because of your video I checked out and immediately subbed to DAngelo! I love him and you of course! You both are so smart and just wonderful people!
I love your intro! Whenever I send “ I hope you’re having an amazing day” I say it with your inflection lol
I've been waiting for someone to actually point out how toxic and unhelpful Shallon's content is! I was already a fan of yours because you are so fair and balanced but this video and your approach to this RUclipsr has made me love your content even more!!
I’m glad you talk about these things. It’s important to spread information like this!
DEAR SHALLON I KNOW YOUD BE READING THE COMMENTS SO HERE YA GO As someone with BPD I have a few words for you.
1- I am not an evil person. I am someone who does have a chemical imbalance that I work on everyday. I am a good mother, I am a good wife and I am a good friend. And regardless of my mental health issues I have never in my life said even 5% of the evil nonsense you have spewed onto others. I am not here to label you or insult you, you’ve done that for enough people. But I will also like to say “something happens in that house” you said that in regards to someone having BPD blaming their parents. I know why I have BPD, my father killed himself when I was 7. Changing my life forever, yes my parents were dysfunctional in their relationship and it’s mostly in part to their mental health issues and people LIKE YOU shallon who judged them, who told them they made excuses, told them to not talk about suicide if you’re not gonna do it. It’s people like you that set these standards and cause ripple effects. I fight everyday to be a better person mentally, emotionally and spiritually yet I get the label and you’re the angel while you sit in front of camera and spew nasty hateful things and get paid for it?
I also have BPD and her stating we don't get medication for it was hella egregious of her and very irritating. Putting out false information of us like that is why so many people with mental illnesses don't seek help.
I adore your commentary. I always appreciate how comprehensive you are. So much love.
Fun fact: I‘m German and her last name „Lester“ sounds like the German word “läster” which means (to) gossip xD also shallon is similar to shallow...
Senpai Productions I’m American and Lester is the second half of the word “molester” which is what she does to children
I just subscribed to you. You are intelligent and compassionate..great commentary.
I really love that you support and include other RUclipsrs. We need more of thst on this platform people supporting other people :) your makeup looks so good! Loving The eye look.
You hit the nail on the head with the MLM comparison. I had flashbacks to the emails I used to get when I worked with Stella and Dot.
Even if she was actually your friend you should be calling this out. Infact you being her friend you should be the one screaming at her about it, what she is doing and has done is not okay!
I appreciate you speaking out! Love you!
what a fantastic video, hannah! i absolutely love your content, you are just so well spoken and thoughtful. whenever i watch your videos, i'm incredibly entertained and i learn something new. i'm glad that d'angelo isn't backing down from lester's basically cyberbullying and threats, as i feel she is spreading incredibly dangerous information. when i watched d'angelo's video, and he touched on the points about mental health and self-harm, hearing what she said was honestly so hurtful to me, as i've struggled through those experiences. i can't speak for anyone else, but i hope that youtube stops giving her a platform to spread misinformation. that being said, this was an absolutely fantastic video, you are just so intelligent and well-spoken with your responses, even when making videos in such a short amount of time. great job!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I'm a minute in, so have nothing to contribute to the subject matter but can I just say, your eye make up, with the hoodie and your complexion fucking SLAPS. This is by far my favorite look on you 👏👏👏 bravo.
I don’t even know who Shallon is but you KNOW I clicked on this one and the other video the second you posted them😂
Omggggg I love hearing your perspective on this because you’re like the sweetest person ever so we know it’s unbiased.
To be fair...people don’t have to apologize if they don’t mean it. Clearly she means everything she said and while many people are offended she probably doesn’t care. I think it’s great that her behavior has been brought to her attention and if that’s all we get then hopefully she can change her ways. I rather she work on herself than give a half ass apology (btw I don’t agree with anything she’s done )
Less than a minute in, but I have to say that these videos remind me of the Kuckian days, and I'm loving it!
Also your makeup is giving me "hot friendly goth girl" vibes and I am LIVING.
"That's a blatant falsehood."
*Fanders:* ahhh she said it! ^_^
Haha I got that reference.
Love Sanders sides
The glow sticks are spoiled this week! All this content from you AND two podcasts!!! ✨❤️
“Men can’t be in an abusive relationship” is abuser language.
I was so happy to see Angelika's video listed below. It makes me so happy that two creators I love to watch, love to watch each other too 😁
A week ago, I had no idea who this lady was...
Yes to everything you said, but also: you are killing with that eye makeup!
I said this on D'Angelo's video as well but the video clip he shared of her like, aggressively stroking one of the members of The Cab while interviewing him (when he admits on camera he just turned 18 and she's probably already in her late 20s) is so cringey. I'm something like 9 years younger than Shallon and the idea of dating a guy in his late teens or early 20s is just... not something I could even start to get my head around.
i love you you continually boost and defend d'angelo i found his channel through you and it's really great that you're giving him credit when it's due!!
I love this lip color on you! 😍 I always wanna pull off dark colors on my lips but I feel like they’re too small I’m gonna give it a try in hopes it looks as good as it does on you. Love your commentary videos!
A few days ago I had never even heard of Shallon Lester... yet here we are, 2 videos in, and I'm livid at this chick.
All bad vibes aside, I absolutely love this Hoodie and Makeup Look. You're like a Grunge Orange Crush!
I would be afraid that by her saying she’s a witch she would put a hex on whoever talks about her.
Thankfully witches aren't real, she'll just talk a big game until someone has some convenient accident and she can say "hah!!! I told you so!!!"
Witches are real, but are good and warm and practice gratitude and kindness and Shallot is no such thing 🙃✨
Does she actually practice witchcraft tho? Lol
tequila mockingbird she claims to
She said she was a witch in high school and when she got rejected by a guy, she said put a curse on him.
She was so smug when she said two of his family members got cancer and one committed suicide.
I can't believe she actually felt some sort of pride and joy from it.