Cool shelf implementation! And I’m glad to see you are automating water changes and refilling your bin...you’re going to love it!! And those are the perfect bins for that space
@@ReefDudes Devin, what cords did you have to wire through the wall to get your pmup ato to pump to the tank upstairs? Did you have very much head height, and any horizontal span to the sump? Thank you SO MUCH for this video!
Very nice video Dev. Happy wife happy life are definitely words to live by. You definitely planned for everything. Csnt wait to see an update on how it is working
Always thought it would be awesome if there was a college class/extracurricular class you could physically go to that could walk you through the new and old technology, chemistry, etc. Thankfully we atleast have RUclips and channels like this when we need help. Although I'd definitely consider ReefDudes an advanced course, can say I don't understand alot of what your doing, but hopefully one day I will.
My setup is about the same with the two high/low optical sensors in both and I will use the two Neptune solenoid valve connected to T push to connect fitting that will open/close based on the optical sensors. Love the setup.. it’s absolutely awesome..
I watched the structural engineer video and I was happy with my aquarium choice which was the same as yours, then I watched the cable management video and was like ok ill get that but not available in Australia... no worries ill build one myself then watched this video and now im getting scared with all the projects I need to get done. Thanks for the great videos it looks like a slow build for me as I want my setup clean like yours from day one. I went from $$$$ to $$$$$$$$$ without even getting my tank 😝
Hey Dev, I noticed you used a pump to transfer the water from the fresh bin to the salt bin. You can take that pump off if you wish and just add a float valve and whenever you need to fill the salt bin, just fill it with the RODI unit. I don't think there is any real reason to have to pump the water over there.
I have a valve to fill from rodi directly as well! The pump is if I want to fill it faster I can have water coming from both the rodi and the ato bin! Really speeds it up if you want to mix up saltwater quick :)
Nope not begging, but I’m sure there’s some reefer out there who’s tank could really use this, (it would blow my 40g Breeder away) But it’s his to do what he wants.
Super easy. But I can do something on it. Basically calibrate them to be even. The. Set the same amount to “dose” on both units to do it at the same time
Trying to understand how you get the water from the bins up to the tank. You have both a PMUP and the versa on the RO line? So the PMUP pushes it up a bit and the versa pulls it the rest of the way? They are on the same RO line? Or am I misunderstanding?
Hi Devin, do I understand this right for your ato for the rodi supply tank: the optical sensors are connected to the fmm module, and the fmm module tells the solenoid valve when to open and close based on the optical sensors? If so, do you need an Apex unit to set this up, or can it be done as a stand alone? Thank you!
You are correct. if you dont have an apex tunze and a few others make ATO controllers.. if you already have an apex then adding on the sensors is an easy way to do it.
How long will it take to pull 10 gallons out of tank. ATO would have to turn off when starting to drain 1-2-5-10 gallons, stay off until 1-2-5-10 gallons pumped back in. Whats best to control these instructuons?
ATF intheHouse well could do it via a scene for high speed. Or low and slow. I think I may just go the low and slow and have it slowly doing it over the day then it’s dead silent and no need to heat the water
Are the magnets you used for dos pumps strong enough to help hold your shelf ? I would worry about putting a laundry basket on there with no support on that corner. Awesome update btw you definitely keep me motivated!
Devin - are you planning on keeping your new salt water at display tank temp ie heated? or figure that the volume exchanged will have minimal impact AND keeping the NSW at ambient temp will have no impact on salinity etc ?
I will likely do a very slow continuous water change then there should be 0 affect on parameters.. If id o a larger one then it would be more advantages to pre-heat it.. but low and slow saves the extra heater.
How large are those containers? Also dont you have to turn off the system when the saltwater container is empty and you have to add salt to mix new saltwater?. Rodi reservoir will remain full and continuously feed the tank rodi as top off.
I purchased the same tanks and want to do a similar set up. I guess the versa pumps are the way to go. I was going to get the Dos pumps. Setting up an auto water change do I have to worry about my ATO coming on when water is being pumped out??
Avelino Fernandez Jr. if you remove and add at the same time (and your pumps are properly calibrated) then the water level won’t change and it won’t kick off your ato
ReefDudes man your fast I just started watching your channel and your doing some great things. I figured that is what would happen since one pump is pulling out and the other is pulling in. Thank you.
Curious how you dealt with sealing the bin where you routed the cords. RO/DI lines are clear, just not sure of the best way to deal with the cords. Thanks
Can you explain what the new ATK pump is doing? I have been watching you videos and love them! I am finally getting a new 130.4 waterbox and I need to finally get around to ATO. I plan to pretty much have the same setup as you. The Apex ATK I am not sure what is is doing. I thought the Versa's are pulling from the reservoirs. Your old pump is pushing the RODI bin to the Salt Bin. Also I assume the Apex solenoid you have before the RO/DI is controlling the open/close on water feeding the RODI? Is that solenoid controlled with the FMM? Sorry about all these questions, but this takes a lot of understand each of the working parts. Thanks again!
Thanks James! so 1 PMUP is for the ATO to top off the tank. The second one is to fill the saltwater bin with RODI. If i want to speed things up i can fill Via the Pump and the RODI at the same time to fill it twice as quick! The versa is there for auto water change. There is one by the saltwater bin pushing saltwater up to the tank and there is one up by the tank sucking saltwater out and pushing down to the drain. both versa run at the same time for 2h a day. On the Mixing bins i have a high and low optical sensor in both bins. If the RODI one is low it will open the solenoid to the RODI unit so it refills the ATO bin. the optical sensor at the top turns off the rodi so it does not over fill. I also have float vales in both as backup! :) the FMM is just my input for the 4x optical sensors.
This has to be my favorite mixing station video! Great content! I replayed the section where you drilled the 3 holes in the back of the tanks, but didn’t get a clear answer as to what the holes were used for or how the tanks exchanged water. I assume the 2 pmups in RODI container, one pumps into the salt container and the other for the ato. So why do we have 2 float valves in the salt container and a 1/4” bulkhead fitting? Also, did you add a optical in the salt container as well? I will be doing a similar setup based on this video! Looking forward to the auto flushing rodi too!
Thanks! Two floats in salt is so I can fill it directly from rodi or from the ATO/rodi bin .. or both at the same time!! There is one optical in the bottom of the salt to let me know to refill it :). I’ll likely add a high level sensor to it at one point but I ran out of sensors!
hey DEvin, great video, I'm thinking of getting an apex later on my new setup, would you recommend the versa or dos for auto water changes? or dos since it's integrated to the apex?
if its some where far way you wont hear it you can use the dos (not the quietest for awc) if some where you hear it get the versa as its much quieter at high speed
Hey Deven, can you please share the exact sizes of these tanks; I am hoping to replicate this as I am working with exactly the same space... 🙏🤷♂️👌 appreciate it in advance.
Hello Devin, thanks for the video, i have an 8 ft. line from my RODI to the top of tank. Do i have to flush it before filling up the tank? Use to fill ones a week.
Hey dev where you order the containers from I’m looking for something similar.. nothing nere in NL so I got to order something on line if shipping ain’t to much
Shipping on the bins seems to suck from everywhere so i found a local place to make mine .. one option is looking at the RV storage tanks online geni.us/rvwaterstorage
The rodi already has a valve for each container. The pump is if I need water fast for what ever reason. Then I can use the rodi as well as pump for the ato. Double duty!
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MP40 in a salt mix container. that's when you know you've made it lol versas look amazing
haha.. well i already had it from my last tank.. vs buying somethign new ... so why not! :P
Cool shelf implementation! And I’m glad to see you are automating water changes and refilling your bin...you’re going to love it!! And those are the perfect bins for that space
Thanks for inspiring me to do so!
You can get an extension cable for the pmup from brs. I had to get one since my apex is on opposite side as my ato reservoir.
I have one for my ATO pump.. i'm out of 24v ports so have to use a power brick for this one
@@ReefDudes ahh ok that makes sense why you were wanting to cut the power cord and splice it.
@@ReefDudes Devin, what cords did you have to wire through the wall to get your pmup ato to pump to the tank upstairs? Did you have very much head height, and any horizontal span to the sump? Thank you SO MUCH for this video!
Very nice video Dev. Happy wife happy life are definitely words to live by. You definitely planned for everything. Csnt wait to see an update on how it is working
Blue Carbon Reefing maybe I’ll do a video on the pump half of it for next Monday’s :)
Always thought it would be awesome if there was a college class/extracurricular class you could physically go to that could walk you through the new and old technology, chemistry, etc. Thankfully we atleast have RUclips and channels like this when we need help. Although I'd definitely consider ReefDudes an advanced course, can say I don't understand alot of what your doing, but hopefully one day I will.
Another sweet part of this already sweet set up 👍👍👍
My setup is about the same with the two high/low optical sensors in both and I will use the two Neptune solenoid valve connected to T push to connect fitting that will open/close based on the optical sensors. Love the setup.. it’s absolutely awesome..
Awesome! love the automation!
I watched the structural engineer video and I was happy with my aquarium choice which was the same as yours, then I watched the cable management video and was like ok ill get that but not available in Australia... no worries ill build one myself then watched this video and now im getting scared with all the projects I need to get done. Thanks for the great videos it looks like a slow build for me as I want my setup clean like yours from day one. I went from $$$$ to $$$$$$$$$ without even getting my tank 😝
Who made the containers for you?
Alcro plastics
@@ReefDudes What are the tank dims?
Hey Dev,
I noticed you used a pump to transfer the water from the fresh bin to the salt bin. You can take that pump off if you wish and just add a float valve and whenever you need to fill the salt bin, just fill it with the RODI unit. I don't think there is any real reason to have to pump the water over there.
I have a valve to fill from rodi directly as well! The pump is if I want to fill it faster I can have water coming from both the rodi and the ato bin! Really speeds it up if you want to mix up saltwater quick :)
Mint setup
I can’t even afford a mp40 for my tank
Let alone mixing stations
Brill
Keep the vids coming
Thank you! haha i bought that one years ago so gave it a purpose again!
There’s a lot of reefers without the budget for a pump like that and would make a great giveaway for the channel to do. Just my 5 cents
@@anthonyrodriguez2570 *eyeroll
@@anthonyrodriguez2570 Sounds a little like begging...Lol.
Nope not begging, but I’m sure there’s some reefer out there who’s tank could really use this, (it would blow my 40g Breeder away) But it’s his to do what he wants.
Any update on programing the Versas for AWC?
Super easy. But I can do something on it. Basically calibrate them to be even. The. Set the same amount to “dose” on both units to do it at the same time
@@ReefDudes I’m currently using the DOS, it’s loud. Wanted to look into the Versas as a quieter option.
@@jakespeed5337 That was the same reason i swapped to versas for this purpose.
Have my Versa set for 3500ml day continuous water change, works great!
About a gallon a day? I like it! i think i may do that too!
ReefDudes Whoops missed a 1, 13500ml/3.5GPD on a 180 :)
Trying to understand how you get the water from the bins up to the tank. You have both a PMUP and the versa on the RO line? So the PMUP pushes it up a bit and the versa pulls it the rest of the way? They are on the same RO line? Or am I misunderstanding?
Pmup is for ato and versa is for awc
@@ReefDudes got it thank you! The PMUP sends the water up a floor without issue? That’s impressive!
Hi Devin. Are you mixing your salt into cold water?
Dragonfly Images yes I am
Sweet setup, love those containers!
They works out really well! was a bit of a hunt to find rectangle ones.
Hi reef dude hey I’m setting my water station and wanna ask you where you bought your plastic tanks ? Thanks a lot
where you get the containers from
Digital Harmony www.alcaroplastics.com
Where did you get your water containers?
Local plastic shop alcro plastics
Love it mate! Where did you get the containers from
Where were the containers purchased from?
Local plastic shop called Alcaro Plastics but tons of plastic companies out there. best to hunt for a local one so u dont pay a fortune in shipping!
U make things look so easy😁👍🏽 great diy vid as always
someone6reefs thank you!
Super nice again. Thanks for sharing👍
Hi Devin, do I understand this right for your ato for the rodi supply tank: the optical sensors are connected to the fmm module, and the fmm module tells the solenoid valve when to open and close based on the optical sensors? If so, do you need an Apex unit to set this up, or can it be done as a stand alone? Thank you!
You are correct. if you dont have an apex tunze and a few others make ATO controllers.. if you already have an apex then adding on the sensors is an easy way to do it.
I have a source on the tanks, but would like to add lids like you have, any idea where to source?
My local place had them. alcro plastics
@@ReefDudes Alcaro in British Columbia?
@@ReefDudes been looking, can't seem to find that company. Any help would be appreciated
Eric Drlich www.alcaroplastics.com
Can you share where you got the containers from?
Local plastic shop. Alcro plastics
How long will it take to pull 10 gallons out of tank. ATO would have to turn off when starting to drain 1-2-5-10 gallons, stay off until 1-2-5-10 gallons pumped back in.
Whats best to control these instructuons?
ATF intheHouse well could do it via a scene for high speed. Or low and slow. I think I may just go the low and slow and have it slowly doing it over the day then it’s dead silent and no need to heat the water
Did you get these containers locally? closest I found was on the coast for about $175each
sirruckus yes I ddI and sprints about right
@@ReefDudes can you share where you bought these?
Where did you got those containers?
From a local plastic shop.
cool can't wait for the next one...
Are the magnets you used for dos pumps strong enough to help hold your shelf ? I would worry about putting a laundry basket on there with no support on that corner. Awesome update btw you definitely keep me motivated!
I was actually thinking of putting some magnets in a 1x1 or 1x2 .. painting it white and sticking it to the side of the washer
Also how many gallons? I want 100 gal ones...
42g each
Where did you get the tanks?
And How much?
Devin - are you planning on keeping your new salt water at display tank temp ie heated? or figure that the volume exchanged will have minimal impact AND keeping the NSW at ambient temp will have no impact on salinity etc ?
I will likely do a very slow continuous water change then there should be 0 affect on parameters.. If id o a larger one then it would be more advantages to pre-heat it.. but low and slow saves the extra heater.
@@ReefDudes Thanks...
How large are those containers?
Also dont you have to turn off the system when the saltwater container is empty and you have to add salt to mix new saltwater?. Rodi reservoir will remain full and continuously feed the tank rodi as top off.
I have an optical sensor that will alert me when the salt container is low.. The ATO will re fill it self when its almost empty :)
Devin do you recommend running skimmer while cycling tank im on my 4 day cycling and turned the skimmer on today
I would leave it off for the first bit so it doesnt suck up your cycling bacteria
I purchased the same tanks and want to do a similar set up. I guess the versa pumps are the way to go. I was going to get the Dos pumps. Setting up an auto water change do I have to worry about my ATO coming on when water is being pumped out??
Avelino Fernandez Jr. if you remove and add at the same time (and your pumps are properly calibrated) then the water level won’t change and it won’t kick off your ato
ReefDudes man your fast I just started watching your channel and your doing some great things. I figured that is what would happen since one pump is pulling out and the other is pulling in. Thank you.
Nice Dev. Can’t wait to see programming. How large are the containers?
42g each. Was going to do full diatoms size to get 60g each but it doubled the price so 42g it is!
Great use of space 👍
Thx! gotta maximize what you have to work with!
Curious how you dealt with sealing the bin where you routed the cords. RO/DI lines are clear, just not sure of the best way to deal with the cords. Thanks
Donward drilled a little hole up as high as I could to pop the cords through.
Hey man, very helpful video. I'm looking to setup a similar system, wondering where you picked up those custom conatiners?
Yes I’m interested in knowing as well. Following.
How far can you run an apex energy bar?
You can run the USB cord pretty dang far
Can you explain what the new ATK pump is doing? I have been watching you videos and love them! I am finally getting a new 130.4 waterbox and I need to finally get around to ATO. I plan to pretty much have the same setup as you. The Apex ATK I am not sure what is is doing. I thought the Versa's are pulling from the reservoirs. Your old pump is pushing the RODI bin to the Salt Bin. Also I assume the Apex solenoid you have before the RO/DI is controlling the open/close on water feeding the RODI? Is that solenoid controlled with the FMM? Sorry about all these questions, but this takes a lot of understand each of the working parts. Thanks again!
Thanks James! so 1 PMUP is for the ATO to top off the tank. The second one is to fill the saltwater bin with RODI. If i want to speed things up i can fill Via the Pump and the RODI at the same time to fill it twice as quick! The versa is there for auto water change. There is one by the saltwater bin pushing saltwater up to the tank and there is one up by the tank sucking saltwater out and pushing down to the drain. both versa run at the same time for 2h a day. On the Mixing bins i have a high and low optical sensor in both bins. If the RODI one is low it will open the solenoid to the RODI unit so it refills the ATO bin. the optical sensor at the top turns off the rodi so it does not over fill. I also have float vales in both as backup! :) the FMM is just my input for the 4x optical sensors.
Great vid. I dont recall you mentioning the sizes of the containers? I need to do something like this. Also how are you liking the Versa pumps?
inventoryking 42g each. Love the versas!
What are dimensions and how many gallons does it hold
40g ish
This has to be my favorite mixing station video! Great content! I replayed the section where you drilled the 3 holes in the back of the tanks, but didn’t get a clear answer as to what the holes were used for or how the tanks exchanged water.
I assume the 2 pmups in RODI container, one pumps into the salt container and the other for the ato. So why do we have 2 float valves in the salt container and a 1/4” bulkhead fitting? Also, did you add a optical in the salt container as well? I will be doing a similar setup based on this video! Looking forward to the auto flushing rodi too!
Thanks! Two floats in salt is so I can fill it directly from rodi or from the ATO/rodi bin .. or both at the same time!! There is one optical in the bottom of the salt to let me know to refill it :). I’ll likely add a high level sensor to it at one point but I ran out of sensors!
Brilliant!
hey DEvin, great video, I'm thinking of getting an apex later on my new setup, would you recommend the versa or dos for auto water changes? or dos since it's integrated to the apex?
if its some where far way you wont hear it you can use the dos (not the quietest for awc) if some where you hear it get the versa as its much quieter at high speed
Where did you order the bins? I've been looking for something like this.
Local place called alcro plastics
Hey Deven, can you please share the exact sizes of these tanks; I am hoping to replicate this as I am working with exactly the same space... 🙏🤷♂️👌 appreciate it in advance.
Hello Devin, thanks for the video, i have an 8 ft. line from my RODI to the top of tank. Do i have to flush it before filling up the tank? Use to fill ones a week.
Freddy Buitenhuis you don’t have to .. but flushing it will make your filters last longer
So is the pmup v2 the ATO pump for the tank?
Michael Sussman yep. V2 for ato. And moved v1 to be the transfer pump.
Hey dev where you order the containers from I’m looking for something similar.. nothing nere in NL so I got to order something on line if shipping ain’t to much
Shipping on the bins seems to suck from everywhere so i found a local place to make mine .. one option is looking at the RV storage tanks online geni.us/rvwaterstorage
I just got one from classacustoms.com , ansi 61 rated
www.classacustoms.com/Water-Tanks_c_189.html
why dont you just run a t-valve from the ato. once one bin is filled the other will fill,eliminates the need for the pump.
The rodi already has a valve for each container. The pump is if I need water fast for what ever reason. Then I can use the rodi as well as pump for the ato. Double duty!
Anyone know what type of water tanks those are I can’t find them online?
I had them made at a local plastic shop.(alcaro plastics)
ReefDudes Awsome, thank you :)
I'm sure you could add a folding leg to that unsupported corner of the table.
I actually already cut some wood for there. Just need to find the right hinge!
Well done!!
Thank you!
Minds blow looks amazing if only l could
Thank you!
Been waiting for this!!!
Coronavirus Pandemic spreading through Canada 🇨🇦, but Reefdudes remains Vigilant and edits more RUclips videos. 😅
I’m dedicated to my people! It was a late night editing!
@ReefDudes I love stepper bits. The reservoirs are very nice and can’t beat the sock 🧦 guard in the back. 👍🏼💯✅
ORION!!!!
Metrokat Nyc haha he like to make his cameos!
This looks so complicated lol
But automated! so easy! hehe.. well atleast for me once its setup!
Your worst video yet, was hoping to learn about awc’s
I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
To much money to waste youre just insulting the normal reefer
Where did you get your water containers?
Local plastic show. Picked the best of of the sizes they make and asked them to add the lids
where did you buy the water tanks
Local plastic shop.
Where did you get the containers?
Local plastic place. Alcro plastics
@@ReefDudes what are the exterior dimensions of them? Which model are they?
@@ReefDudes I'm looking to build something into some custom cabinetry next to my reef tank system...well, where I plan to put it anyways...