Engineers don't care. They expect people to trade in their cars for new ones every 6 to 10 years. They don't care about used cars. That's why they make every thing unserviceable.
If u change that original filter your ducking your whole transmission up. Never ever change the filter never that filter and whole system is use to the correct metal shavings etc etc putting a new filter in there that system has no clue how to operate the right way anymore cause u done ripped what it was use to for new. U only need to change the fluid period never the filter or u can buy your self a whole new transmission like a dumbass
Please help me out, i have traverse 2018 LS , 70 000 KM i got it second hand and it has a shuddring at low speed and the dealer says that they found metal debris and the oil condition is bad, they are insisting to change the hole gear, and they said don't change the oil because it last for week and it will stop working, so my question it is true that if I have a shuddering at low speed and the oil condition is bad and if I change the oil will the gear stop working after a few days ?
We have a 2008 Saturn Aura XR with the 3.6 & 6T70. Car has 141k on it recently drained the fluid 3x via the drain plug. The car has some issues shifting, revs like crazy, so probably in 1st or 2nd gear, will not shift at all and manual mode is not available. Seems to be when the car is heated up. Turn car off, let it sit a while, all is fine then, and I don't get on it, just drive conservative on the way home. Fluid level is perfect. I'm sure the filter is the OEM and it's a shame its located where it is, so normal home mechanics like me can't change it like we have done with other vehicles and I've posted videos of trans work to my channel as well. Going to bring the car to a trans place soon and they will probably be charging me a lot more than the work they actually do...
I have a feeling that GM did or does these intentionally. Who in their right mind would think that the filter or the fluid wouldn't need to be changed at some point. I mean even changing the shift solenoids are a pain in the behind not to mention costly. The time and parts to take off just to drop the transmission is ridiculous. Always willing to rip-off the consumer more than they already do.
I was asked to put a converter in on a 2008 equinox. Customer stated that it was a whining noise almost sounded like a low power steering fluid resourvior. I'll truly think filter is plugged. Send me your thoughts.
Excellent video and I'll be pulling the transmission out of my wife's 12' Traverse to replace the Torque Converter soon. I want to do the filter and the rear main seal since I have the trans out. When you split the case what are the torque specs for the pump (and any internals you removed) as well as the outer case bolts? Also, for the filter, I can't seem to find a part number for the sleeve as you're right most filters look to not have that part included?
I just had mine replaced today and the shop only took 1.5 hours to complete So I'm confused on why it look so hard when you did it.how long did it take you. Maybe the shop didn't replaced it
1.5 hours = is the usual time in the service for a simple oil service = the oil is drained (only what leaks out) and a new one is filled. In Europe, such an exchange is called "from mud to puddle" (useless work..) Removing the gearbox, disassembling the gearbox on the table, changing the filter, mounting the gearbox on the table and mounting the gearbox in the car count 12 hours.
Can you share the torque values for the case bolts when replacing the filter? Also, I can't seem to find the torque values as well for the transmission to the motor and any help with these two torque values is greatly appreciated!!!
How many miles do these transmission typically last. I just bought a 2011 with 206k and about to drop a engine in it and not planning on messing with the transmission. What are your thoughts.
@@codemansauto208 thanks I just went through the shutter crap with my 2015 Suburban. Which converter do you recommend. I guess while I am there I should split the case and install a new filter as well.
I have a oil leak on the bottom of the front plastic cover where you put trans fluid. I tried backing off the bottom bolts and applying silicone but it still leaks at the bolt hole. Can that cover be totally removed to place a new gasget on it without having to pull the engine? There is some type of switch on the engine side of it that I would need to remove. Does anybody know how I can remove it? Thanks.
we dont have one in the shop at the moment, we did a few weeks ago and didnt make any videos sorry but next one we get in we will work on making a video
It's stupid to build something like this, because the manufacturer is fully aware that the automatic transmission is extremely sensitive to the cleanliness of the oil - much more than the engine. It follows logically that for proper operation and long life it is NECESSARY to change the filter and change ALL the fluid at the interval specified by the manufacturer. If the manufacturer claims that there is a lifetime charge in the transmission. What does it mean? Chevrolet in Europe provides a standard warranty of 3 years or 100,000 km (1km=0.6 miles) - whichever comes first = the lifetime of the car for which the manufacturer is responsible is 100,000 km or 3 years. After this time = it's your problem. And here is Problem #2. = The gearbox will last 100,000 km, but the oil in it no longer works properly and has slowly started to damage the gearbox and thus the lifespan of the gearbox begins to decrease, which the manufacturer is well aware of!!! If I want to prevent this, I have to change at 60,000 km. But every 60,000 km to pay at least 12 hours of work + 2 days without a car = I'd rather buy another car, which is a shame Traverse is a nice car. Attention, it happens with several brands. For example KIA and HYUNDAY = in the original Kia or Hyundai service, when changing the oil, they will only change 6 liters from 11 liters and without a filter. If you want to change the 11l + filter + gasket under the oil pan = you have to go to the service "for everyone" or non-branded service. The reason? Automobile companies would like you to dispose of the car in an environmentally friendly manner immediately after the end of the warranty and buy a new one. So they help it a little by changing the oil in the engine after 30,000 km, and in AT for life or 90,000 km it's basically the same.
The Traverse is a throwaway vehicle. Do not buy one. I have a 2010 with 122,000 miles on it. So far timing chain problems,transmission problems.Among many more issues. I would literally buy a China made car before ever buying another GM made junk.
Seriously? Those engineers at GM couldn't have figured out how to put the filter in a serviceable location??
I was thinking the same exact thing.
Engineers don't care. They expect people to trade in their cars for new ones every 6 to 10 years. They don't care about used cars. That's why they make every thing unserviceable.
Stupid engineers man I agree with you literally have to take the whole dang thing out to find the filter nope 👎
They don't want you working on your own car.
If u change that original filter your ducking your whole transmission up. Never ever change the filter never that filter and whole system is use to the correct metal shavings etc etc putting a new filter in there that system has no clue how to operate the right way anymore cause u done ripped what it was use to for new. U only need to change the fluid period never the filter or u can buy your self a whole new transmission like a dumbass
Thank you ...helps me understand what mechanics are telling me...especially when different garages give opposite info
Thank you. This is the only video I've seen that shows how to do it.
Thanks for the video and the spec information. Big help!
Please help me out, i have traverse 2018 LS , 70 000 KM i got it second hand and it has a shuddring at low speed and the dealer says that they found metal debris and the oil condition is bad, they are insisting to change the hole gear, and they said don't change the oil because it last for week and it will stop working, so my question it is true that if I have a shuddering at low speed and the oil condition is bad and if I change the oil will the gear stop working after a few days ?
Good video. Thanks for the demonstration.
We have a 2008 Saturn Aura XR with the 3.6 & 6T70. Car has 141k on it recently drained the fluid 3x via the drain plug. The car has some issues shifting, revs like crazy, so probably in 1st or 2nd gear, will not shift at all and manual mode is not available. Seems to be when the car is heated up. Turn car off, let it sit a while, all is fine then, and I don't get on it, just drive conservative on the way home. Fluid level is perfect. I'm sure the filter is the OEM and it's a shame its located where it is, so normal home mechanics like me can't change it like we have done with other vehicles and I've posted videos of trans work to my channel as well. Going to bring the car to a trans place soon and they will probably be charging me a lot more than the work they actually do...
I have a feeling that GM did or does these intentionally. Who in their right mind would think that the filter or the fluid wouldn't need to be changed at some point. I mean even changing the shift solenoids are a pain in the behind not to mention costly. The time and parts to take off just to drop the transmission is ridiculous. Always willing to rip-off the consumer more than they already do.
I was asked to put a converter in on a 2008 equinox. Customer stated that it was a whining noise almost sounded like a low power steering fluid resourvior. I'll truly think filter is plugged. Send me your thoughts.
That's crazy man oh man I miss my Chevy Trailblazer by the way I love to amsoil fluids yes pricey but I keep my babies for 10 years before I upgrade
can this be done with the transmission still installed in the vehicle or does it have to be taken completely out?
Excellent video and I'll be pulling the transmission out of my wife's 12' Traverse to replace the Torque Converter soon. I want to do the filter and the rear main seal since I have the trans out. When you split the case what are the torque specs for the pump (and any internals you removed) as well as the outer case bolts? Also, for the filter, I can't seem to find a part number for the sleeve as you're right most filters look to not have that part included?
Torque value on oil pump in 10ft lbs the turn bolt another 110 degrees
I just had mine replaced today and the shop only took 1.5 hours to complete
So I'm confused on why it look so hard when you did it.how long did it take you.
Maybe the shop didn't replaced it
There's no way to replace it, without removing the transmission from the vehicle and then opening it.
They probably TOLD you they "replaced" it & scammed you
@@DETmichigan-yy6lf meh... Maybe, maybe not. I don't know, I don't pull these things out of cars everyday... To me, it seems like more than 1.5 hours
You got that right
1.5 hours = is the usual time in the service for a simple oil service = the oil is drained (only what leaks out) and a new one is filled. In Europe, such an exchange is called "from mud to puddle" (useless work..)
Removing the gearbox, disassembling the gearbox on the table, changing the filter, mounting the gearbox on the table and mounting the gearbox in the car count 12 hours.
Have you ever done a 9T50 transmission, would it be almost the same?
Can you share the torque values for the case bolts when replacing the filter? Also, I can't seem to find the torque values as well for the transmission to the motor and any help with these two torque values is greatly appreciated!!!
Trans to motor bell housing in 35 ft lbs
How many miles do these transmission typically last. I just bought a 2011 with 206k and about to drop a engine in it and not planning on messing with the transmission. What are your thoughts.
I would never be that close to the torque converter and not change it because these converters are known to start shuddering at some point Good Luck
@@codemansauto208 thanks I just went through the shutter crap with my 2015 Suburban. Which converter do you recommend. I guess while I am there I should split the case and install a new filter as well.
Its very similar to Aisin Warner they also have the filter inside
Who do you make this video for, mechanics or regular people
lol regular people of course! My wife can do this!
How much tourque to put it the plastic cover and to put back the cover after replace the filter
Where to get specs for torque on bolting the case back together??
go to 6t70 pdf and it should come up for a link that will show all torque specks for this transmission
I have a oil leak on the bottom of the front plastic cover where you put trans fluid. I tried backing off the bottom bolts and applying silicone but it still leaks at the bolt hole. Can that cover be totally removed to place a new gasget on it without having to pull the engine? There is some type of switch on the engine side of it that I would need to remove. Does anybody know how I can remove it? Thanks.
by any chance u have or can make a video on removing the transmission itself from a 2010 traverse?
we dont have one in the shop at the moment,
we did a few weeks ago and didnt make any videos sorry
but next one we get in we will work on making a video
How long did it take you? Mine has 205000km, is it worth changing the filter for preventative maintenance?
That’s wild
Thanks
Do you have a video on how to get the transmission out?
not at this time coming soon
For sale 2020 Chevy high country 29,000
Miles. Didn't know I bought a throw away car.
Lol
Did you make a video of taking the transmission out
no but we may in the future
What? All that for the filter? Use to be as simple as 20+ small bolts, drop the pan and done. :D
Very true. But those trans were probably 4 speed autos, not more complicated 6-speeds with manual shift modes.
Look at all that metal on the filter magnet😂😂😂😂
Shame on the designers of this they totally could have designed that case with passageways and an external spin on filter
you are right
a spin on filter like the old Saturn Taat transmission would have been great
I appreciate the video. but hate to find it incredibly stupid to drop transmission to replace a filter. lol
agree
It's stupid to build something like this, because the manufacturer is fully aware that the automatic transmission is extremely sensitive to the cleanliness of the oil - much more than the engine.
It follows logically that for proper operation and long life it is NECESSARY to change the filter and change ALL the fluid at the interval specified by the manufacturer.
If the manufacturer claims that there is a lifetime charge in the transmission. What does it mean? Chevrolet in Europe provides a standard warranty of 3 years or 100,000 km (1km=0.6 miles) - whichever comes first = the lifetime of the car for which the manufacturer is responsible is 100,000 km or 3 years. After this time = it's your problem.
And here is Problem #2. = The gearbox will last 100,000 km, but the oil in it no longer works properly and has slowly started to damage the gearbox and thus the lifespan of the gearbox begins to decrease, which the manufacturer is well aware of!!! If I want to prevent this, I have to change at 60,000 km.
But every 60,000 km to pay at least 12 hours of work + 2 days without a car = I'd rather buy another car, which is a shame Traverse is a nice car.
Attention, it happens with several brands. For example KIA and HYUNDAY = in the original Kia or Hyundai service, when changing the oil, they will only change 6 liters from 11 liters and without a filter.
If you want to change the 11l + filter + gasket under the oil pan = you have to go to the service "for everyone" or non-branded service.
The reason? Automobile companies would like you to dispose of the car in an environmentally friendly manner immediately after the end of the warranty and buy a new one. So they help it a little by changing the oil in the engine after 30,000 km, and in AT for life or 90,000 km it's basically the same.
DO NOT HAMMER A SCREWDRIVER IN THERE!!!! USE A BIT OF HEAT AROUND THE DOWEL PIN IT WILL COME RIGHT OFF
That was a crap ton of metal debris on that magnet
Timestamp?
Hey buddy you didn't show me how to remove it
So buy a new transmission, got it thanks
OMG that is way messed up man
Another GM bright idea. I'd prefer going back to my 4-speed over this nonsense.
I change my gear box oil in company after 20000 km gear box is dead 😵
Most stupid design of all time
agreed, why cant they design a screw on filter like the old TAAT transmission
I will tell my wife to go to carmax and find her a new ride other than this pos!
The Traverse is a throwaway vehicle. Do not buy one. I have a 2010 with 122,000 miles on it. So far timing chain problems,transmission problems.Among many more issues. I would literally buy a China made car before ever buying another GM made junk.
Thats ridiculous! Horrible engineering