Michelin CrossClimate 2 Extended Winter Road Test FWD Crosstour
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2022
- Thought I would share my initial experience with Michelin’s All Weather Cross Climate 2 Tires. Drove over and through various winter conditions. I give them a 4.5 out of 5. Tires performed well in most winter conditions. Found they struggled a bit on pure Icy roads, but snow packed and even icy roads with snow on them they performed exceptionally well. I would say Ice performance is the difference maker between these and Pure Winter Tires. Thanks
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Excellent video!!
Thank You
@raynman67 I have the awd crosstour on the same Micheline Cross Climates. You are absolutely right, it almost performs as good as a winter tire in most tests. Braking is the only slight drawback I felt. Good video.
Better than job of 99% of ‘professional’ reviewers on RUclips. Spot on, just a lot of driving and commenting on sensations during real time driving. Good job.
Thanks appreciate the kind feedback
Thank you for the time and effort you took to make this video. I really appreciate it.
Thanks!
iv been on the fence for a while, this vid has made my decide to go for them. Big thank you
Glad to hear It was helpful. Hope they work out for you. I’m over a 1000 miles in since this video, Still happy with them.
Great video thanks for taking the time it has certainly helped me make my mind up👍
Hope they work out for you
Sir, all I can say is thank you 🙏. You have made a 30mins video of driving around in the snow not boring and informative. Big props to the braking info. A lot of reviews miss that. I feel that braking is one of the most important information.
Thanks for watching, glad it helped
Great video! Been driving on the Crossclimate originals and now these for nearly 6 years now, perfect tyre all year round in the UK. We get about 6-8 weeks a year where we have a decent amount of snow in the hills where I am and they never let me down.
Awesome thanks for the great information!
Thank you for this video! Just bought them today on sale at costco. The only review I care about is actual winter driving and you definitely showed that these tires can manage! Living in Edmonton, Canada, I can relate to these kind of roads and I need something that will work ;) Thanks again for making a real review video!
Thank You!!
should be ok. my car is 2018 camry xse, bought this tire last year. Drive it from van to calgary this feb, cross the hwy 1 with snow condition. work perfect
Do you know when is the nect costco sale on these ones . I live in edmonton too
bought them today, I am impressed already with the traction. Nice vid, man!
Thanks, now the roads are dry starting to notice how they drive on dry pavement. A little rough IMO. You definitely feel bumps and cracks in the road a little more than I did while I had the touring tires on. So not as smooth as a touring tire for sure. Also MPG is down almost 2-3 miles per gallon. Michelin claims this will improve with wear. But also I understand you have to sacrifice some to gain some. Works both ways
@@raynman67 overall they are ok, nothing to complain about. They also quiet as they got 69db
Thank you for the review, this video sold me on the cross climates for my fwd car.
Glad it was helpful, hope they work well for you. On my Second winter Season, so far so good. No significant loss of traction and they performed well in the summer as well. Really good on wet roads
Best Driving Demonstration of these tires I've seen thanks Getting mine fitted tomorrow to my Honda CR-V AWD ready for The Scottish Highland Winter 😉
Glad it was Helpful!
¡¡Gran vídeo!! De las mejores pruebas reales que he visto en RUclips. Saludos desde España
Gracias, agradezco tu comentario. Viva España
¿Tienes mucha nieve en España?
En el norte si, yo soyde León y aquí ya ha nevado, a pesar de haber acabado el verano hace menos de un mes. Y, en otras zonas del resto de las península también nieva en invierno copiosamente.
Un saludo y viva España🇪🇸
Thanks for the review of the CC2’s . Placed my order today.
Recently put CC2’s on my ‘24 Rolla se. 205/55-R16 with steelies. These tires are awesome in snow, rain and dry pavement!
Thanks for the review of the tires in the snow.
No problem! Still performing pretty well in Season 2
I’ve already ordered these! This and other reviews confirmed my decision to buy.
Awesome! I think you’ll love em
Best test ever greeting from warm Naples Italy
Thanks! Greetings from Eagle CO
Awesome video, thanks man. I’m definitely buying these tires at Costco now
Sale ends 1/30/22
Thanks for your thorough review! You have convinced me to buy these for my Subaru Outback, which is driven mostly in San Francisco, but I take it to Tahoe/Reno several times a year. Swapping out a winter set every trip, along with storage, is not a practical option, so the Cross Climate 2s seem to be an excellent choice.
Exactly !
Thanks, I deliver door dash and these are going to be my new all year round tires.
Thank you so much bro !!! Excelent video !!! Take care.
Appreciate it!!
Hey rayman67, great real world review on the Michelin CC2"s! Perfect choice for your test sample-during actual cruddy winter weather! Other than the camera flubs, you did a great presentation for the tire brand and model of tire!👍 Doug
Thanks Doug, do you work for Michelin?
Ray, no I don't work for Michelin, I'm an auto mechanic myself by trade. Being a first generation German/American(my mom is a German girl, came here in '52 when 17 years old. I've a 97%ile in mechanical reasoning. I understand quality. That's why I enjoyed your "real world" product test of the Michelin CC2's! It was an excellent example of the phrase-" the proof is in the pudding"! Doug👍⭐⭐⭐🤓
@@douglasradowick508 appreciate your kind words, my family is also from German decent, the other half is Irish ☘️
Thanks for the review! Was about to get another set of Yokohamas for my Subaru but will get this instead after watching this
Hope they work out for you!
Gerry I have a set of them on My Crosstrek here in Canada. I just put them on in the fall so they are still new to me but so far I'm very impressed with them.
Sir:
This video was very helpful, period. I agree with Mr. Paradise, below. I am shopping for a 2011 Chevrolet Malibu four door sedan. Present tires are absolutely atrocious - I purchased the vehicle on Presidents Day, NH; we were surprised with a nice small snowfall and the sneakers on Mabel (aka Malibu) were atrocious. Thankfully, I avoided other late season snowfalls. (My wife has a 2018 Ford Explorer; i have the Malibu and commute across NH to work - haven't decided what I will put on the Explorer)
I am writing from NH; your video is well representative of my cross state driving snow conditions in NH , ME, and VT. This is my life. I appreciated being able to watch the vehicle maneuver from stopped; in and out of high speed lane; in and out of exit ramp. I appreciated your characterization of "highway glaze" - perfect. I appreciated your video capture of intersection behavior. I appreciated your general characterization of this tire's performance with our driver behavior. You're absolutely correct; there might be some slipping here and there, but, when we slow down, the tires do their job. I appreciated your representation of the tires tracking well in glazed plowed conditions as well as all other snow conditions - these tires seem to permit your vehicle to track well, at all times.
I sincerely appreciate the time you put into this and it has been helpful. These are the driving conditions that one will often experience in NH, ME, and VT. Michelin should really be compensating you - this is very good work. Thank you. ~ Pat Doherty
Thank You, hope they work out for you. The video itself was kind of a spur of the moment thing, no real plan, just had good conditions to give them a good test for everyone, but for me as well as I was just getting a feel for them at the time! So I thought might as well record and share the experience. Haven’t heard from Michelin yet lol.
Hi Sir .Thank you for your video on the Micheline cross climate 2 Tires .I am here in the highlands of scotland uk .And i got my cross climate 2 tires last year .And i do AGREE 100% They are very very good in the snow .I have let my friends watch your video and they are going to get the cross climate tires as well .As for your video very well done sir. Take care out there .Dave from scotland uk.
Thank You, Glad you found it informative. Love to Visit Scotland some day. Golf and Trekking Sight Seeing and maybe a taste of whiskey 🥃
@@raynman67 HI MY FRIEND YOU WOUD LOVE SCOTLAND .
This was very very helpful…now I am sold. Still gonna be swapping them twice a year though. Heard some complaints about overall lower mpg and tread life expectancy when being used all year long. Thanks for the review man!
Thanks for your Kind Comment. My MPG has balanced out pretty much, had the worst driving conditions of the year so far today, had to drive about 40 on I70, but that was the average speed for everyone. Tires handled it great!!
I don't own them yet, but I want them.
BTW, a few people say they get better mpg with these, a few people say they get worse, a bunch say the same.
Do some math before you geek out about mpg.
Is $20 a year more gas use worth swapping tires?
Pro tip: the answer is no.
I'd just get a dedicated set if ur gonna swap between all seasons and summers
Sitting at the tired shop now waiting to get my first CC2 tires on my Lexus RX350. I had a Crosstour with Michelin legacy on them in Virginia and ran back and forth to Pittsburgh to visit family. The AWD Crosstour is a very competent auto in the snow.
My old Stomping Grounds, grew up in the Burgh. Still got a little yinzer in me.
I will be putting a set of these on my '17 Subaru Impreza sport before next winter. I usually have 2 sets of tires for my vehicles, one for summer and one for winter, but I'm getting tired of swapping them out twice per year and only having TPMS half the year, since my car can only 'remember' one set of sensors. I'm thrilled that Michelin has made an all weather tire that lives up to the hype. They're definitely expensive, but if they actually last 60,000 miles, it's money well spent. Solid review!
Still on sale at Costco! These would be amazing on an Impreza
$20 of gas, good to drive all day. EV... LOL
I think you sold me. Thanks for the video!
Your Welcome & Thanks 🙏
Really good test.
Thanks! Just drove around IRW winter conditions.
We live 5 miles from town on a private road that we have to plow and maintain ourselves. We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter.
We had Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires installed on both our Outback and Forester.
Our Subaru’s have awesome traction, even on the factory tires, but the Cross Climate 2 tires Rock.
They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy, snowy, logging and forest roads.
We recommend them to anyone who will listen to us.
Agree excellent in slushy wet roads, average on ice
I have those tires right now on my 2016 Subaru Forester XT and so far they work great even in the snow.
Nice!!
Gooood video maan 👍 Tires is excellent.
Thanks
Awesome. Thanks for the video.
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I have been using them for over 2 1/2 years now on my 16 toyota Camry Hybrid and they are the absolute best in snow. All front wheel drive. I have had just once in my parking space due to ice slip me into the small gutter up against the sidewalk. No fault of the tires it is total wet ice underneath the snow.
My 1st set I bought for $138 bucks and now I need a new full set for the next upcoming winter and tires stores wanted upwards of $1,100 bucks for a set as high as $250 bucks plus another almost $150 just for them to put it on.
I did buy them this time, but from Costco! a total of $756 bucks. No addition fees whatsoever! The downside is they are slow getting the tires and putting them on. Taking almost 2 weeks! They will do repairs, but what a wait.
Yeah, but your saving almost $500 from I’m reading. Worth a wait
Love those squeaky wiper blades
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Thank you sir for awesome video. I buy it a set of crossclimate 2 SUV for my 2019 RAV4 Trail..
Your Welcome and Thank You for watching!! Sure you’ll love them
Nice video… real time driving in snowy conditions…def proved Michelin Cross climate 2… a very good buy…
Thanks 🙏
@@raynman67Bought these tires for my daughter, moved to Denver, she said those tires were like she was driving on dry pavement, A little pricy, but Definitely Worth It, ‘ Peace of mind’…
I'm an essential worker in new england, and all it takes is one winter storm to make it impossible to get to work. This video helped out a lot. Engineers and customers are saying a lot of good things about the cross climate2's. Seems like the best choice for all season tires, just not quite as good as pure snow/ice tires. But you can't use winter tires all year. Treads wear out too fast in the heat, and potentially tire failure. Thanks for the review!
They got me through the winter no problems
What do you drive and what tires?
@@fredharvey2720 I drive a 2017 Ford focus, but if the weather gets that bad, I have a Ford Edge titanium with AWD. This will be the first winter driving with the Michelin Cross Climate 2 on the Ford focus.
@@benjaminparadise6397 I've never used those. I have Vredestein Wintrac Pro on my Subaru Legacy.
Excellent real world review sans glitz, stupid music and a loud overbearing personality. Good job. I just bought these tires and they're amazing. You have officially blown away the so called "professionals" on RUclips by mentioning the most important aspect of good tires...the ability to stop. Going forward is not as important.
Well appreciate most of your comment 😂glad it was helpful and thank you for the kind comment. Not sure any music was in the video, but I agree braking is the most important, but also just taking your foot off the gas earlier is helpful in winter conditions. Stop slowing down earlier than you would in dryer conditions !
Probably gonna get these for my 2011 Toyota RAV4 once the time comes for new tires. I want a high mileage tire that will still be good in the snow and from everything I’ve seen this tire is the best option that fits both of those categories.
That was my reasoning
I've driven with these all summer and love them. They handle very well in wet weather too. Still waiting on some winter weather to test them
Edit: I have now used them in the winter and they handle beautifully in the snow. They provide alot more grip. Stopping, going, turning, all of it is extremely consistent
No snow in Michigan?? Great in snow. Think winter tires do better on straight ice, but otherwise most winter conditions they will do great. Deep snow could pose a problem if you bottom out. I did get stuck once Turning into a parking lot that had 10” inches of snow, but it was pure clear ice underneath. Lucky there was a plow truck parked not to far away who pulled me out. Pretty sure it was because I got high centered.
@@raynman67 I actually live in Indianapolis 😬 so snow but not as much as Michigan. I primarily just do freeway driving so it's not too big a deal in that sense. But for the nights where I need to go somewhere and the salt trucks aren't out, I like that extra layer of security the tires provide
In Wisconsin - anyone that asks me about winter tires - unless they have high performance summer tires, I tell them to get these and don’t worry about 2 sets.
@@SpencersStuff1777 r
well - thank you very much for video !
Your Welcome! Thanks for Watching!
I have em on my Civic and they're amazing in snow. Good for at least 70K miles too.
Awesome!! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you 🙏
Your Welcome and Thank You for watching, hope it helped.
Hugely impressive for a 2WD car
I’ve always had Front wheel drive cars for everyday drivers, as long as you have good snow tires or in this case 4 season tires you really don’t need AWD.
I get these on my Jeep Cherokee next Saturday. I'm so excited! Now maybe I'll be able to bump the speed up to 25 in the snow instead of 20!!!!
Thank you ❤
Your Welcome!
nice tests - thank you very much - i'm buying them for my 4x4 toyota which goes mostly on-road - i was checking also the latitude cross, more off road oriented, but i didn't like not so good how they are rated on snow.
Nice, one of our transportation guys put them on two people movers and he swears by them.
Well don video!
Thanks!
i have a set on my Lexus AWD car, and i am extremely impressed, we got 11 inches in Pittsburgh, car plowed thru, never got stuck...well worth the extra money, as they are not cheap, lololol..enjoy.....awesome video, shows my same results
If only they could use this technology to help the Stillers 😂
I'm wanting to get these for my Toyota. The only thing I'm worried about is dry pavement road noise.
@@thetechlibrarian honestly Road noise isn’t that bad as far as I can tell. Do notice it’s a bit rougher riding. You tend to feel all the cracks and bumps in the road a little more than I did with touring tires. Like when you transition into a bridge, the space between the highway road surface and the bridge. Maybe I’m tripping
@@raynman67 no that makes sense the expansion joints always give a good little jolt, I have a RAV4 SE currently and the suspension on it is a little stiff so I’m trying to find tires with a good ride and then maybe quiet down some of that road noise if I could ever find the time I would also like to take the door panels off and line them with some Dyna mat and the back hatch
Seems to be great tires from all the RUclips reviews I've seen. So I'm looking to get them put on my son's 2013 V6 Accord. We live in Central Jersey and we get our fair share of snow. Nothing like where you're at, but it's more like a Black Ice on the roadways is what we get. So these should come in handy. And with the discounts that I'm seeing at Costco's and BJ's, the price is similar to some, (all be it good) cheaper tires. You can't go wrong I guess. Great review. Give us a sense of how these tires handle in the snow. I just got the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4's put on about a week ago and have put on like 200 miles. They feel good compared to the Toyo's I had. For me it was a toss up between these an and the Pilot Sports. Decide to go with the Pilot Sports because I don't drive that much in inclement weather and they were about $$150-200 cheaper for my 2019 Mazda CX GTR. But for my son who does more driving, I would like the safest tire I could get. Once again, great review. Best of luck!
Thanks for the input, not everyone needs these types of tires, After using for 20,000 plus miles I’m most impressed by the wet road performance, so if you live in an area that receives a lot of rain, these tires would be a good option.
think these will be my next 7 months of the year tire and run winters for the other 5 months. have always ran winters and all seasons but these look much better for dealing with fall and spring in Canada. I often run my winters 6 months of the year to deal with early and late storms.
The primary reason I went with these was to avoid keeping 2 sets of tires and changing them in the spring/fall
I considered CC2 but they would be too close in role to my dedicated set of Blizzaks DMV2. I opted to get longer lasting, quieter, better dry/wet grip Defender 2 for my 9 - 10 months out of the year. I can quickly swap tires out at the first forecast of snow/ice. So if it's a warm winter I don't bother swapping out. Takes me about 1.5 hrs to get them out, air them up evenly and then swap them out for both our vehicles. Air compressor with impact makes short work of it.
Nice 👍 I don’t have the storage space for an extra set of tires which is why these works for me
Best tires I’ve owned. They go through the western Canadian snow with no problem. I’m really surprised at how quick the car can stop. The tires dig right in. The only worry I have is, what kind of tires are the other people driving on. I can stop, can they?
Good news for Costco members, Michelin Deal extended till 2-22-2022
I’ve used the original Michelin cross climates on my Audi A4 Quattro for several years and was really impressed with them in wintery conditions. I recently changed vehicles and now drive an Audi Q3 S line Quattro which is not permanent all wheel drive and came with Pirelli summer tyres on it. You can bet I’ll be changing to the Michelin cross climate 2 when the winter weather returns. The Pirelli’s will be binned for sure. The main thing which was demonstrated in this video and I also found when using them on my car and that is to drive to the conditions, don’t drive like an idiot.
True, to many people with AWD & 4WD put snow tires on and think they can still drive on Icy Snowy Wet roads like their still on drive pavement. Hence we see them in the ditch all the time. Thanks for your comment
Both idiot knowing what you drive and pride yourself with 😂. ICE Luddites.
Buy a Buick Enclave Avenir AWD fully equipped ride I love it! 130 mph ride
I own a Audi A5 Quattro with the Torsen system, They still have the pirelli summer tyres. Will be changing them for the cross climate 2 in the next month or so in preparation for this winter.
Yeah, I'm probably one of the ones you are calling an idiot. I have never driven into a ditch in Winter conditions since I was a teenager but if the speed limit is 45 and the car ahead of me is driving 30, then I'm going to pass. There is nothing wrong with that. If I feel that it is safe for me to drive 45, then I will do so. I can see someone ahead of me well in advance and slow down to their speed. Then, if I feel that it is safe, I will pass.
Just had Costco install them today on my 2015 Honda Accord EX-L V6.
Nice Man!! Hope you enjoy them!!
Looks like Beaver Creek? Was looking for hours for this video. FWD with these tires. In snow.
I Have a FWD highlander. Could not justify AWD in the MId Atlantic region... even with some foothills. You're at 8k ft. Snow 6 Months a year and seem completely confident in your FWD buggy with these tires. So... appreciate the video. No more second guessing for me.
Correct BC!! Wow you got some ball ⚽️ skills. Fun to watch.
@@raynman67 THX. Wish I could say its me.. Its my very talented daughter.
Forgot to ask. Now that you've had these tires a while. How's the MPG?
Ahh the apple usually doesn’t fall far from the tree. Can’t say it’s any worse than it was before, at first it seemed like I lost a mile or 2 in MPG but after a few months seemed to balance out
Great video,
Could you do and rain braking video in the spring and noise on hot pavement braking this summer
I liked and subscribed to all notifications in case you do, so I don't miss it
It is really beautiful where you live, I enjoyed the tour
Thank you
Thanks for watching and your kind Words, As far as making another in the spring, I may do that!! Appreciate you! No one took those Blizzaks off your hands Yet ?
@@raynman67 Yes, I forgot to take down the ad, thank you, I just did now
Great video. Agreed on the rain/summer review.
I'm on the fence about the true need for these for my 2020 Honda Passport AWD now that they've finally come out with my size. I'm in San Diego, so their use in snow would be limited to the rare times we get snow in our mountains about an hour east of town (4,000'-6,000' elevation) or when I would drive up to the Sierra Nevada (Kings Canyon / Sequoia / Yosemite / Eastern Sierra). When it does rain here in San Diego, drainage on our streets and highways sucks, and too many cars hydroplane and spin out, so rain performance would be important to know. Thanks again for this informative video.
@@1958zed Look up on Tirerack, they are the #1 Grand Touring tire right now by user reviews, also shortest stopping distance in wet and dry summer and snow, ice that are as good as max performance winter tires if you cross reference the tests according to Tirerack
If they're this good on a FWD, they should make my Subaru a tank!
Pretty Much
Now I just gotta find them. Sold out everywhere in Canada lol.
Thanks for the video! How do they compare with the regular winter tires on dry surfaces during the cold months, do they squirm less and handle better due to less sipes? Do they offer better steering and overall feel than a regular winter tires on dry surfaces? Thanks...
Personally I think they are better over all on dry roads than Winter Tires. Looking at them you would think they would be rough and loud, but that hasn’t been the case. Pretty smooth ride. Handle very well. Can’t say I’ve noticed any kind of squirming. I mean there not as good on dry as a good touring tire, but for those of us who live in the mountains and deal with variable weather conditions it is a good compromise. You have some good covers on your channel, great vocals!
@@raynman67 Oh, thanks. :)
One remark: Did you make yr car completely ice and snow free? Not only the front window but also the side and backwindow? I did not see that in this video.Important !!!
Yup very important, I hate seeing people driving around with 2 feet of snow on there car, or don’t defrost their windows before driving peeping out a tiny hole they cleared out.
It was a real test. ☺️
Was for me as it was the first time with Winter conditions using these tires 🛞
Doesn’t matter how far you’re driving especially in the snow wear your seatbelt
You are Correct
Appreciate the video bro thank you! I also live in CO, and I am driving on 70 and Summit County a lot during winter. How do you feel about them in dryer condition on the highway? Try to get CrossClimate 2 because my Pilotsport 4 A/S is almost worn out in only 30k, and it's not performing very well in winter conditions. Hopefully CrossClimate 2 is worth the buy.
Well I’m going into my third season, dry roads feels really good, you might notice a little noise at first, probably as with any new tire, done a couple 3000+ road trips on them and did really well, averaged 30.5 miles per gallon from Eagle to Pittsburgh PA, pretty good for a V6. Car does have VCM so a good part of the time it’s running on 3 cylinders. Best tire I’ve had on wet roads. Just guessing cause my receipt from the tires isn’t handy, I’ve got about 30K to 35k on them and still have tons of tread life left.
Your video has convinced me to get a set of these…Thank you!…Will be putting them on my Subaru Outback. How are they holding up, how have they been this summer? Again, thanks!
Thanks for the comment. So far in the Summer they have been good. Not much visible wear, just had them rotated, probably later than they should have but looks to be wearing evenly. Really good in the rain and wet roads. Look forward to see how they perform this upcoming winter as Michelin claims they retain their traction after wear.
I ordered some but now I’ve heard the mpg might take a hit with these.
@@cuzr702 I would say it’s nominal. After they break in It’s about the same. I’ll sacrifice a 1 mpg for the performance I get in the winter and wet roads
Only thing your missing in the description is the air temp and if you have traction control on or off.
Pretty sure I talked about traction control being on and when it engaged. I always have it on in the winter
Thanks for the test, i live in south 🇨🇭. No snow or maxium 5/10 days a year but steep climbs and descents, how do they perform on compact snowy climb and descents? Ill buy a set on monday. I had never saw street whit more than a inch of snow. Im going to buy just i case i get cought in a snow fall but also we have 35º plus celsius in summer
They do really well on snowpack, it’s icy conditions where they tend to struggle a tad, but once your going on icy roads they handle well if that makes sense. But snow packed roads, starting and stopping isn’t really a problem
@@raynman67 thanks mate
How are these in occasional ice on the road? Are they still safe to use?
As seen in the video they perform quite well, the interstate was pretty well glazed over.
Nice video! Do you find any change in mpg with these?
Maybe a MPG, once they broke in seemed like it recovered it. Certainly not enough that I wouldn’t buy them again
How is the Costco warranty? Is it worth joining? I see other shops offer warranties that cost around $100 but I feel like Costco is more reputable. I live in LA, but do weekend trips to Big Bear and Mammoth, so these will come in handy! Especially because I have a FWD vehicle. Also, THANK YOU so much for your comprehensive review! I'm getting them one way or another! ;-)
All passenger, performance and light truck tires sold through Costco Wholesale are covered by a 5-year Road Hazard Warranty*Footnote One protecting customers against tread wear damage and tire failure. Costco Wholesale will repair or replace**Footnote Twotires damaged during standard legal vehicle operation.
And you get free Rotations, fuel savings is the primary reason I joined Costco, Mind you I only live 5-10 minutes from my Costco. Costco Visa I average around $300 a year in cash back + being an executive member I get enough back to where it pays for the membership, so basically haven’t paid out of pocket for membership fees since becoming an executive member. Cost twice as much ($120) but if you shop there enough it pays for itself
@@raynman67 I live close enough, but I am a single person. I'd have to spend at least $3,000 to break even. I'm not sure I would, but it's very good food for thought! THANK YOU!!!!
Would you buy them even if you already have dedicated winter tires knowing they'd be used mainly in the summer?
I would use the dedicated winter tires until they were worn, then I’d buy them. No sense in wasting a good tire.
@@raynman67 I think I'm going to have to get new all seasons in the spring. Any recommendation?
I think as long as I live in Colorado I'll drive a Subaru and use dedicated winter tires.
Nothing wrong with that Logic !!
Was that the Town of Avon, Eagle County and Copper Mountain by any chance? If not, what's the name of the area?
Correct Avon area, no Copper Mountain though, west bound 70 from Avon Towards Eagle 🦅
@@raynman67 Thanks.
@@zeza2217 did you see Scotty’s video with the 2022 Acura TLX type S? Pretty sick
@@raynman67 Yes I did. Me, the one I want is the 2010-2014 Acura TL SH-AWD Technology Package with brown or red interior and it has to be manual stick shift. The new Acura TLX are made with super expensive little parts that takes the fun out of it for me, like the 4K head lamps, each; or the tiny break pads on the back, things like that. I wanna be able to work on the car myself and the 2010-2014 is the best range (less problems, specially the 2010) up until last year. I don't know about the one this year with the totally new engine. Time will tell.
U still using that tyres instead of Winter dedicated tyres?
Yes on my third winter with them. Still performing well
Do I recognize Beaver Creek in Avon, CO?
You Do
How does it perform making a turn on glare ice? Does the car feel like it will fish tail or understeer?
The honest answer is I haven’t been in that situation enough to tell. Most of the glare Ice I’ve encountered has been in straight lines. Approaching stop signs and intersections. The kind of ice that forms from people sliding to stops and spinning out to start. Again their not horrible or unmanageable on glare ice. Just not quite as good as a dedicated winter tire with extreme siping. You’ll spin some or engage traction control when starting or you’ll slide to a stop instead of not sliding to a stop
can anything turn on ice?
@@banzaiib I think you can turn with winter/all seasons tires at appropriate speed but some tires have higher threshold before losing lateral grip.
@@banzaiib Zamboni 😉
I thought that only Nokian Seasonproof could drive in such difficult conditions...
Wouldn’t know
Every positive commenter to this video is sleep-walking
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Bro, are you breathing alright?
can't find this model in 16" . they don't make this size? disappointing...
Where did you look? Pretty certain you can get these for 16” rims.
You gave them a rating of 4.5 out of what? 5, 10, 20?
In the description 4.5 out of 5
I got the Crossclimate 2 tires a couple months ago and like you mentioned, it handles well in the snow. My area got hit with a big snow storm and the tires did great. I was passing everyone on the road. I own a 2006 Accord. In attaching my video.
ruclips.net/video/6Kh56y0wbCM/видео.html
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Where is this?
Eagle County Colorado
Colorado is god's country.
All country is Gods country, so I agree ☝️
How is the road noise?
Not to bad. Louder New than a few months driving on them. But going into my 3rd season can’t say I really notice them at all. Whether that’s me adapting or quieter after some wear? Probably a bit of both. Can live with it considering performance.
Do they still perfom well after many mile
I’m at the end of my third winter with these and they’ve held up very well, still have excellent tread, there may be some slight snow and ice performance degradation, the traction control comes on a little more often than before, but other than that I’ve gotten around pretty well, probably have over 35,000 miles on them. Tread depth is still excellent. Wet and slush performance is still excellent. No regrets
@@raynman67 do you use them all year round? Summer heat included? Thanks
Did you notice and slipping or skidding at all?
A bit when conditions where more icy. In the video If I said traction control was coming on that is when I was slipping or having tire spin. I did get stuck once but that was primarily due to the snow being to deep and pure glare ice underneath when I pulled into a parking lot. I pulled into the lot and was unable to continue forward then I couldn’t back out, snow was so deep the car kind of high centered on all the snow underneath, can’t really fault the tires for that.
Overall I did great can't lie !
These tires definitely did their job on a terrible winter drive through I-80. My mind was at peace.
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How does it feel when braking on glare ice vs your previous winter or all seasons tires?
You tend to slide further with these as compared to say the Blizzak which has extreme siping and a bit softer compounding which provides better bite and grip hence shorter stopping distance. As long as your anticipating this these tires can stop ok 👌
I have kumho ha32s (which performs similarly to the CC2 as shown on vid), with FWD passenger car, and I'd rank tire categories for winter performance like so: Summer
@@kpokfposkf well that’s the hope for these tires, year round use and 60k life rating. I can live with slight inadequacies they may have in rare conditions to gain year round performance throughout the life of the tire
Didn't realize the Xtour was only FWD. Honda really failed on this product.
You can get an All wheel Drive Crosstour if you choose. Multiple options. I love mine, the Tear drop design in the Rear makes it optimal for being able to sleep in the back. I’ve car camped in it multiple times on long Road trips.
You really don't need to have so call fake 4wd. I drive a Mr2 in snow storm with nokian hakkapeliitta. Lol
@@mr2cqql Congrats! Again my Crosstour is FWD as stated in the title.
Interesting test but that strange wheezing between sentences makes him sound like a serial killer
I see now that you didn't make yr car completely snowfree, also yr backlights are not to be seen. and through yr backwindow you cannot see anything.
Not sure at any point in time do have a view out my rear window, which by the way is completely snow free, any snow that might be on it is snow accumulated as I’m driving around because DUH it’s snowing outside. 3:10
Why are you parked in an EV charging station space?
Because it’s private property, we own the EV charging systems, Thanks for attempting to virtue signal about it. Any Questions about the Tires?
The only thing is if it is really worth $180 a pop over getting $70 a pop all seasons and just struggling for a few months a year 😂
I suppose, but her we get 5 1/2 to 6 months of winter, from November to May you could get snow storms
I live In Chicago…we had 12 inches of snow overnight, and I was ‘ Plowing thru the snow like it was dry pavement, and my neighbors, we’re just spinning their tires. Best part ? You can drive all year on these tires…!
Consider this, you cheap out on tires, saving $80 - $90, but end up crashing in the winter due to cheap tires causing thousands of dollars of damage to the vehicle just because you saved a few dollars on tire price.
The only contact between the car and the road are the tires, I'd buy a decent set.
Yes…Best part the Michelin cross climate 2 .. are snow rated, last 50k miles.. and because of the tire compound.. they are soft in the winter for grip, and hard in the summer, basically ‘ winter tires, you can use in the summer…These are ‘ Real ‘ All season tires… and the minimum tread depth.. still outperform the competition.
" Found they struggled a bit on pure Icy roads," so what tires work well on purely Icey roads bud? lol
Well blizzaks were actually pretty decent. On Pure ice. I owned multiple sets, went to the Bridgestone Winter driving School in Steamboat springs and we also had them on a frozen lake here locally. Even their not perfect but starting and stopping was considerably better than these. These are more about convenience. Blizzaks wear out to fast if not changed between summer and winter
@@raynman67 Cool beans!!
My reply comes a year late. On pure ice? Only chains or studded tires. Nothing else. You can wing it for sure, but ice is ice, rubber will slip no matter what.
So why were you parked in a EV charging spot? How would you like to pull up to your local gas station and an electric car was parked in front of the fuel pump? Weather is no excuse buddy.
Because it’s private property and we own the EV charging station, so If I want to park in the EV spot that we own than that’s my prerogative. Thanks for playing
@raynman67 So how much money did your state help you pay for that set up to "Green Wash" your company then. State rebates, utility grants or federal tax credits for those chargers?
@@robert5008 0 and beyond that I know exactly who and when whomever owns an EV needs the charging station. These are level 1 charging stations. At best they add 2-4 miles of driving per hour. If I show up to work and need gas to go 2-4 miles, first I’m a pretty irresponsible person but where is my gas pump space that I can occupy for an hour or more to get me to the gas station. Oh and they are free to use. Were are the free to use gas pumps? So what if a EV that has plenty of charge but just want the convenience of parking in the spot shows up, parks all day and EV that needs a charge is unable to use the spot because it’s being occupied by an EV that’s near fully charged. Thats the actual reality of who parks in the EV spots. So maybe you should address that problem first because I’m occupying the space because I know for a fact that no one needs the spot, and it’s been my personal parking spot for over 25 years that I graciously allowed them to install EV stations at.
also getting tired of these stupid tyre changes
Exactly
why u moaning at every spoken word ?
Why are you moaning about people moaning ?