Men are lost.
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Men are lost and we need to not only talk about it but care about it. Too much discourse on the matter, particularly from the Left, tends to see it as a non-issue or something that men should just "get over". The Right also tends to see men as worthless if they don't fit into the cookie-cut traditional definition and confinement of masculinity; something that is impossible for most men to achieve in this day and age. In their own way, they've abandoned men and are keeping them preoccupied with conspiracies and scapegoats rather than dealing with the real issues at hand. One thing that the legacy of Nelson Mandela has taught me is that we get nowhere in wishing the same kind of suffering and harm to our adversaries. Men's health impacts us all. So, let's have a conversation and be as empathetic as possible. I adore you all.
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0:00 I had the weirdest experience at the Barbie cinema…
8:16 Men are lost
15:39 Patriarchy won’t save you
20:32 Women won’t save you
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The hardest and best lesson in youth, is the realization that’s no one’s coming, if you want to be chosen, you got to chose yourself
That’s all it is💯
yup!
That's the lesson of poverty, not youth. Youth culture is heavily influenced by bourgeois culture, and unlike the children of the rich who are given guidance and help, the children of the poor have no one to help them but themselves.
This is why parents who had to struggle try their utmost to make sure that their child doesn't go through the same stuff they went through. They make sure they get all kinds of help and guidance, to a fault!
Don't let the world harden your heart. Protect your heart, always.
@@LuiKang043 Interesting. You have any recommended readings on this?
Oh yes society is coming to rescue you
If you are a woman
If rent were lower, this whole "you've got to discover yourself and define your own masculinity" thing would be alot easier
This should be pinned
Yeah people tend to overlook the reality of material conditions a lot for some reason.
If you want to build, to renovate, to put a place to rent, norms and legislations are always more and stricter, there's always more bureaucracy to be approved to rent, that it can only go up.
It's something that I put on the table each time this is discussed, we have a lot of homes now in Europe that don't meet the requirements to be on the market.
I would have been happy as a student or young adult to have acces to cheaper housing, even if it means that the wiring is from 1984, the windows have single glass...
For those who'll say such a home's energy consumption would be too high to warm, here's a trick : you don't have to warm it, or not a lot, not all rooms, not all days...
If you're an active young person you may not be at home a lot anyway, just eat, sleep, shower, keep youtr stuff.
Better than be on the street or bleed half your modest income.
Let those home be on the market for cheap, there's a lot of impoverished people that could do something of them.
@@qrsx66 or just have rent controls. You act like the only alternative to the absurd rates charged by landlords is to put shitty, unsafe, inefficient housing on the market. You know safe, modern, efficient, cheap socialized housing is a thing right?
@@adamplentl5588 To make the shortest answer possible it didn't work well in the Soviet Union.
“Rather than cope with the unbearable loneliness of their condition, men will continue to seek their shattered God, and for his sake, they will love the very serpents that dwell among his ruins” -
Nietzsche
Wow this is so deep
For men its Tate, for women onlyfans.
And both sell the same poison. A fals feeling of selfworth.
@@IrradiatedFelinelmao if you really think onlyfans is the biggest issue that women face you're delusional. It's not even a factor in the majority of women's lives
Nietzsche's announcement of God's death was incorrect. Just because something is perceived to have gone away doesn't mean it has. If God had truly died, we'd have been utterly finished that very moment.
@@iwatchyoutube9425Nietzsche doesn't mean that God died metaphysically; he means that God died as a concept organising social existence and explaining our place in the world. Most religious people with a philosophical education understand where Nietzsche is coming from, and essentially agree with his critique. The God concept organises social life very little compared to past society, whether or not he/she/it exists in some transcendental realm beyond our grasp.
When the world needed her most, she appeared.
Do you mean Barbie or Kidology?
Come to think of it, it works either way, perhaps. 😁
Individual men need to be allowed to decide how they feel about a movie without being femsplained how they should feel.
@@simpdefendmlady6579what movie? Why watch movies?
@@simpdefendmlady6579 Nobody is arguing with you other than the voice in your head mate.
@@simpdefendmlady6579men should not be allowed to decide how they feel
A weird thought experiment I did while in the depths of despair, wishing someone would come and save me: I asked myself that if someone were to come along and save me, what exactly would they do? I couldn't think of anything any outside person could do that would heal all my issues completely... Moral of the story: It became a lot easier for me to accept that no one was coming to save me when I realized no one could do it even if they wanted to.
point !
No one can save you but it is possible to save yourself if you know the right path….following a path that has saved and still saves others….and it dies take a lot of work and going against the stream of conventional life but the results are so good …there is a way to eternal peace where even if you were tortured you would still be happy. I have met people…Buddhist monks and nuns who have reached this stage and they are amazing people…
No one can save you, but the idea of saving yourself is finding meaning through action. As humans our psyches are orientated toward socialisation for survival and as such if we are in communion with others we get to experience things like friendship, loyalty, companionship, duty and we can quite readily develop internal purpose around those things. Without socialisation with others, we are just lonely animals foraging for resources until we die alone.
On a deserted island, all alone, what is actually meaningful? Surviving one lifetime... and to what end?
In a community of people, what is actually meaningful? The community, and to what end? Improving our living experience with each other indefinitely generation after generation -- this is humanity believe it or not.
@@severussin These days I just want to be content in my own world and not have to worry about other people's problems. You can call that empty and selfish, but it's been working better than all my previous coping strategies.
@@MTBotShot The coping mechanism to living in a harsh reality of nature is community, children are literally raised by others unlike some solitary (and predatory) animals that can become self-sufficient quite early in development. Other coping mechanisms are just technological mirrors, imitations of true meaning you'd get through relationships with others.
We can cultivate our garden, which is effectively just working on survival, organising your resources and home. We can work on a physical skill in the form of a hobby or activity, which is effectively our health and mental wellbeing. We can develop a craft, which is effectively building or leveraging a technology to make life more fun or convenient.
Yes, these things can be fulfiling but I think they only become your primary source of meaning when one fails at appriopriately socialising themselves with others. Humans require all of the above, but what is missing is the community element is all I'm saying.
I have a certain problem with this "existential bootstrapping" idea. While yes, no one person is obliged to do anything for any one other person, it is still bad to create a society where basic spiritual amenities, such as free time, friendship, sex, agency, family and intimacy are turned into out of reach prizes that we have to hustle for.
Those things may not "save you" but they will definitely make your life fuller and more meaningful and they can be given, or at least made more accessible. Saying "You will only be happy if you find contentment within yourself, society owes you nothing" is like only giving somebody a job if they are fine with not getting paid, or only serving food to somebody once they aren't hungry.
Great point, it's like people have forgotten that we're social creatures to the core. Yes, it's your job to establish your own life but we cannot live our lives alienated from things like the need for companionship, sex, family, spirituality, money etc. To gather all these things requires a collective effort from all aspects of live, it's part of what makes us psycologically healthy.
Societies thrive when people come together, the most fundamental aspect of that is making family structures sacred. i.e this it's Barbie and it's Ken sound bite is a horrible message to send to young people. Men and women are supposed to come together for the greater good not live seperately as sexless career slaves
And we wonder about the loneliness pandemic, the increasing and alarming numbers of mental illness, and so on. Making basic human needs like connection a commodity/asset is literally making us sick.
Then you should try your hardest to implement this into society by running for office and trying to change the paradigms that structure our lives, otherwise this will have meant nothing but to satisfy your own comfort in processing this and nothing more. Do not shout into the void because it will not shout back, you must try to change the void.
Omg! You’ve said what I was trying to grasp! While she’s was saying all that stoic kinda of stuff I was trying to mentally understand how one can then have a meaningful fulfilling life without those commodities that yes give our existence meaning… like, i just want to create and maintain strong bonds and connections and experience life in general. And I can’t imagine myself living without having people in my life or those so called futilities that the modern society sells you like individualism and extreme self-atomization that is making us all in a insane rush for searching meaning without the need of others. Idk I just feels this is why we are in such a lonely pandemic and severe mental illness. We as humans, social creatures, we are deciding to distancing ourselves from our prime need for simple necessities. “But when it comes to true needs, we don’t need much”
I think the idea is that operating as though you’re entitled to strong relationships with other people is off putting most of the time. It’s not necessarily that “society” owes you nothing, it’s that other individuals don’t. I think understanding that makes forming meaningful relationships with people much easier.
I think the whole "you must find happiness, validation, love, etc within yourself" trope is overplayed and a bit anti-human at its core.
Humans are community based creatures. We must cohabitate and receive validation in some way from others. When such things are out of reach, the mind begins to do insane things to get fufillment. For instance we see a lot of homeless people talking to themselves. Well no one will talk to them for a any extended period. They not only do not have a home, they lack companionship. Humans need that.
Humans are animals and animals are slaves to their instincts that developed as evolutionary adaptations. View our herd instincts in this light and you'll realise why self-actualisation that transcends societal pressures only is a key to becoming free.
I think it's a double edged sword. You need both, but since nowadays it's becoming hard to get genuine, true companionship, it's not a bad idea to turn, in the meantime, to some soul searching. It's gonna give you a solid ground to stand on.
I agree
I think the thing is, it's a range. People have this fundamental belief that prioritizing yourself and prioritizing others is this black and white thing but it is a range. One of the most fufilling things in our lives is the realtionships with the people we have with others but we can't lose sight of our selves. We can't lose sight of fundementally the only person that you have to be with for the rest of your life is yourself. It's about being able to enjoy beautiful moments with the people you care about but also putting things into perspective that fundamentally your life is only your own.
While I think there is some value in the "you must find happiness within yourself" trope, I think it is often propagated by those unwilling to help or afraid of being culpable. It is a way to say "your issues are not my fault and not my concern, they're yours."
I think that we should all try to learn more about ourselves and do thing we really truly enjoy. Living for others will often result in dissatisfaction. However, when someone shares that they are suffering from a lack of meaning or connection, maybe we should explore ways to provide such connection. Recognize the ability we have to provide that connection
I found Ken to be very sympathetic. He causes conflict in the movie, but I never saw him as evil, just lost, as you’ve said. I think the men who hated the Barbie movie failed to understand it. They came in the theater not understanding the concept of Barbie and wanting to hate it from the get-go. I also want to add that in addition to boredom, I think men are lonely. Ken was lonely because he didn’t have Barbie, but I think he also doesn’t have any friendships with other Kens or someone to play with him. One of the root problems with toxic masculinity is how individualist, performative, and isolating it is.
Couldn't have said it better.
You don’t know anything about brotherhood, and also had to add in women there is a lot of toxicity even much than men sometimes. Always so fake and shallow. Women can be smiling at you even in they hate you and gossip behind your back. Men maybe are more real in that aspect. If I don’t get along with you, I don’t mess around with you. Many women especially if they are in the celebrity, influencer group have many fake friends. They take pictures together like they are besties but hate each other.
Yeah Ken has a great time during that musical number which we didn't see prior
@@Madysss0777 you really don’t have to get defensive and make generalized insults on women. Calling women fake and shallow isn’t cool. Men and women both have their own issues with socialization. This idea of “realness” is an interesting one. What exactly is “real”? Women are socialized to be more tactful, but that doesn’t necessarily make them fake. Women who are too “real” are often punished by both men and women. Men who stress about being “real” often results in being brutally honest and only in the limited emotionally acceptable ways men are expected to act, like apathy or aggressively telling someone off. A man who cries usually isn’t praised for being “real.” Ironically, toxic masculinity/patriarchy’s emphasis on being a “real man” prevents men from being expressing their vulnerability and soft side, making everything less “real” overall. Funny how that works!
@@Madysss0777 Being fake is a human thing, observe people better and you'll notice that. Be wary of that regardless of gender, especially in your workplace. Men gossip too, btw. It's all about what type of human beings you have to deal with, not what they have between their legs.
As an Indian, clapping and hooting in cinema for me is just part of the movie theater experience.
Hey no worries. 90% of the people saying stuff like this is white people pretending to be offended for other groups. Money? Redemption for things they think they owe other people for? Whatever.
😂😂😂😂
Is that an Indian thing? I thought it was just melodramatic people everywhere
@@off6848and indians are so highly melodramatic when it comes to movies lol 😂
@@off6848 it's like this, people with way too much time on their hands decide that they are the arbiters of morality. They have taken to destroying all stereotypes everywhere. In doing so, they have found them in absolutely every action ever done in the history of humanity.
The hardest thing for me i had to realize in my late teens and early 20s was that... NOBODY out there is waiting for me or wants me. I'm only needed when my lifetime, energy and workforce can be exploited. It's not nice what this does to you..... and yet here we are. And i sometimes wonder why i'm still here and haven't ended it all years ago already. There is still this voice inside me telling me "no!" and there's a lot of things i can do to at least improve myself and become better and actually create something of worth that lasts. I'm just not sure if it's even worth it.
We need to give and receive respect. I happily work my ass off for people I care about because they respect me. This is I think what is a problem in society. It often teaches that men are not worthy of respect anymore. And the result is what you say: we question our selfs why we do anything anymore. This is ultimately also dangerous for society itself because it destabilizes it.
Think of it this way, gender roles are embedded into almost every animal species in the planet not just humans.
Have you ever thought what it's like living as a man and being accepted without providing anything? I swear, just like feminists, many people fail to look ahead far enough to see the consequences. When you bend the roles embedded in our DNA sooner or later it's going to feel even shittier once the ideal world we have in our heads is realized.
The laws of natural selection have been balancing life on the planet for billions of years. Life hasn't gotten easier from the past, in fact it's far easier than it has ever been, good heavens!. Think about living in the dark ages or during world wars or the industrial revolution. We, sadly, have grown weaker, physically and mentally.
When nobody around us is giving us that support. We only can find it in ourselves and hope to attract the rigth kind of people to our lives.
Playing appeasement to other people in the long run is never worth it, but getting praise keeps us going there.
Finding your own path however, that is the true value in life, but it doesn't come with any guaranteed praise.
That's true for everyone. We all think we're special when we're young but it turns out that isn't true, except for our families.
I used to be concerned about what it means to be a good man, how to be masculine etc. This year I've found it enlightening for look past all that and focus on what it means to be a good person- certain traits don't belong to men or women, and focusing on those divides men and women and denys us from being what we could be.
Focusing on being a good person, and let your masculinity/femininity be secondary to that. It moves the focus from one/other to us and makes us strong as humanity.
I have to say I couldn't even Barbie due to all the guy in the movie being idiots/arseholes and being patronised and condescended to the whole time- even at the end the Kens were only elevated to second class citizens!
I think this is the best comment I’ve seen. So many other men here seem to be lost. Ppl are just obsessed w/ their gender. Just be a good person. How difficult is that?
This comment should be pinned. As a woman I think the same.
as someone non binary i agree, the fixation on the gender binary (which itself is a social construct and varies from culture to culture) only causes division. people need to learn to look past their gender and focus on themselves as people
Opens with "there is nothing special about the film".... Then proceeds for 30 MINUTES describing how the Barbie movie is deep and reflects society 😅
RIGHT?! lol
doesn’t make a movie special
the way that a lot of people are discussing the movie and getting different meanings from it already shows that even though the movie has this silly, superficial cover, it allows people to dive deep. I think it is pretty clever if it was intentional.
This content creator is a trans woman...can still see the adam's apple in her throat. There were trans in the Barbie movie as well. So now trans women are telling real women to care about men.....great.....................
@@vivvy_0 what would a "special" movie look like?
Some key aspects of the movie that I really enjoyed:
- The hyper feminine not being demonized like it has been in media for the last 20+ years
- fun. This is a movie that I had fun watching, had fun preparing for and you can tell the makers of the movie had a great time making
- not taking itself too serious
- The beautiful execution of camp and satire
- Set and costume design
- The role reversal for male and female in a way that hopefully really connects with audiences and gets their point across
The hyper feminine has not been demonized lmao
@@uwu-fm2kjyou clearly weren’t a child in the time where every girl was afraid to say their fav color was pink. more like felt the need to make it very clear u don’t like pink or anything girly.
@@soupafleye Or uwu is not a girl and didn't socialize in that way. When were girls afraid to admit pink was their favorite color? What age range are we talking about? Because a lot of movies from the 90's and early 2000's depicts women wearing pink or having pink bed rooms. And also creating lots of drama. The only thing social media depicted was saying its weird to be obsessed with everything being pink.
If anything, I can believe more so that people who dressed goth were more demonized than girls liking the color pink.
All things considered, it was really the feminist movement that demonized being girly. You see it as a tiktok trend today. Women hating other women for wanting to be a traditional wife.
Everybody is demonized over everything (2 sides for everything). I'll probably get a demonized response back from someone.
@@soupafleyenigga what ? Why tf would u ever be afraid of talking about your favorite colour specially if you have a vagina ? I swear to god y’all makeup problems in your head and fight imaginary people 24/7
@@flameshoter6 no I am a girl, or well woman rather. In my experience as someone who’s 21 and a girly girl is that being a girly girl was not demonized whatsoever. I think femininity as in being a woman in general is demoted but in the realm of femininity being “hyperfeminine” or a girly girl or what have you was absolutely the most accepted form of femininity.
It was much harder for the girls in my schools growing up if they were tomboys. If you were deemed “masculine” in whatever slight way you were gonna have a much harder time than the girl who conformed either naturally or forcefully to the normal or hyper feminine.
The only exception to this that I can think of is the “NLOG” or the “not like other girls” girl. Who would attack other girls for liking standard girly things, but in my experience “NLOG”s are often tomboyish girls who are so reactive exactly because they are ridiculed by the standard.
But then again that’s my anecdotal experience, I shouldn’t have been so dismissive of the cuff, eventhough I do think my experience is the much more common one.
Listen, you always make incredible video essays, but this has to be my personal favorite. Yes, you are always articulate, but I think here you've outdone yourself. Please continue doing amazing work. I appreciate your content.
100%
This wasn't very good, it was a generic boot straps take
@@Penterror As opposed to...emotional welfare?
@@nicholatemple9296 women will never be able to grasp the concept because they're naturally self-serving as a survival tactic
This video was horrific
I liked the Ken arc but I wished that Barbie's main arc was existentialism and fear of imperfection and death turned desire to experience life and it's flaws and aging and authenticity. Her choice at the end seemed like an afterthought but it could have been so much more powerful.
Barbie did what you said. She understood the beauty and privilege of aging in an imperfect world. That why she chooses to be human
@@marte1376 It just seemed like an afterthought is all I mean.
Cuz the drama of hating men gets more views/$$
@@boredagain1 "Hating men" lmao
@@heyhey439I mean if your keyed into Hollywood at all these days you know for a fact that all of those jokes about men the writers actually believe are true.
I thought the movie was for both men and women. Barbie saw that simply encouraging women and being a role model, Isn't going to be enough to give women true equality. She also learned about how the real world is, that there is pain, misery, but there is also happiness. So she left her bubble life to experience that world. That was HER calling.
For ken and the other kens. He realized that he has to figure out who he is. He cant expect barbie to be the one to complete him. He has to complete himself.
This movie is for anyone who stuggles to find themselves and their journey. We're all on a journey to figure out 'what we're made for'
We're all barbies and kens, going through the struggles of life.
Edit:the men mad in the comments lol. Btw I don't think the movie is perfect, it's not. I feel there was a too many things they tried to put into the movie. But I'm glad with the direction they went with, barbie has been around for a loooong time. Doesn't hurt experimenting with old characters.
It's only ever equality when it suits you. There is no equality in the dating market.
"We're all on a journey to figure out 'what we're made for'"
Well, good luck with that. This most hollow pursuit for one's 'self' is what drives narcissism in the modern world. Because 'self' is not some stable static thing which can be discovered, whatever self you discover will be what you will be distancing yourself from in a year or two. But this focus on one's self will ensure that narcissism seeps in.
But this is peak neoliberal ideology: that we are all products and commodities who should have no social bonds, self-creating and self-marketing (i.e, we are all 'brands', we all have our 'personal brand). The reality of human beings and social identity is that in order to be complete, we need to all complete each other. That doesn't have to be through classical romantic relationships, but it does need to be social. The idea that there is some undiscovered 'essence of ken' that ken can just introspect or discover is the illusion of neoliberal ideology.
@@AnilSingh-qb7iu um no. You are just responsible for your own life and it’s up to you what you make of it. No one’s coming to save you and no one is responsible for your life
@@Yomel123 this is such a Thatcherite-Reaganite point of view. In other places in the world, we have a concept of being mutually responsible for each others wellbeing through providing a functional state that enables social life and health for its populace. I feel sorry for you that this concept is completely alien to you. Neoliberal ideology wrecks people's minds.
I've seen it twice now and one of my favorite little details is that Ken ends the movie wearing both his lightning headband and the brightly colored I am Kenough sweatshirt. Ken's at the start are very much subjects to the feminine gaze of Barbieland but through their introduction to elements of masculinity from the real world they are opened up to a broader range of styles and hobbies that they can choose from and construct their own distinct identities around apart from the Barbies. Having ken in both the headband and sweatshirt feels like a visual indicator that he's moving towards some sort of synthesis of the masculine and feminine forces within himself.
Are the Barbies moving towards some sort of synthesis of the masculine and feminine forces within themselves?
@@mariusvanc Of course not, they are already perfect as they are lol
this is a weird take because even though I've been lost, I've never thought to myself "I need a woman to save me".
I'm sorry if you need a woman to save you, your already a lost cause
@@ravenwhiteduck6460 that's not what i said. learn to read.
Every Redpill podcast is about how u need to pump and dump 100 women to make u a real man lmao
@@lidiagizaw3828 not just that but pump and dump women who aren't girlfriend material in any near capacity. Waste of time when a close, loving relationship will make you a better man 100x.
@kevinyonan2147 Not Being "Girlfriend Material" to entitled modern incels is actually a huge compliment .no woman wants to be your servant and babysit your ego by dimming their own light
I like how, as a man, I clicked on a YT video where a woman explains how lost men are, and I think this exemplifies very well how lost men are lmao
Glad you have clicked on this women that has a Black Female on the thumbnail. And she explains the key points and background information to why Male Loneliness Epidemic is getting worser day by day for Millennial and Gen Z Men compared to Men from previous past generations when it comes the number of younger men and young males feeling lonely, worthless, unlovable, unattractive, unfulfilled, and feeling undeserving of female companionship, female validation, female emotional support.
It is a depressing epidemic that our men are going through in Western and Developed countries. Of why they are now coming in packs of just becoming more bored, unfulfilled, and definitely more counterproductive. We are living in a depression that is psychologically pervasive and spiritually lacking.
@@MariamArt_ gotta love women telling us how we feel
@@MariamArt_
I know a quick 100% effective cure for male loneliness.
Just need to do their best Kurt Cobain Impression.
@@Victhemighty lol
Another toy film that deals with existentialism is none other than Toy Story. The issue that young men face parallels Buzz Lightyears; as he believes is a hero in complete control of his life, destined to save the world. It can mirror young men, as growing up we’re told we can be who we want to be and achieve what we want to achieve irrespective of our class, race, prospects etc.
It’s not until we hit those later teenage years, where we begin to realise we’ve been sold (for most) a lie. We’re not destined for greatness, we’re not special, the way the world works was beyond the naivety of our childish minds. In a crude sense, we hit that ‘God is Dead’ moment.
This moment is realised in Toy Story, a film about growing up, is when Buzz witnesses a television advert for the Buzz Lightyear action figure (“not a flying toy”). Buzz is visibly shocked. There is no mission, the preconceived notion of what his life has been is shattered, and he is immediately plunged into a state of passive nihilism.
Buzz must come to terms that he is not a magnificent Space Ranger. His laser is just a light bulb that blinks, his wings are just plastic. He is hardly an individual. In this society, he is a commodity, and has little value beyond that. Interestingly, Buzz reacts to this by challenging his preconceived notions and this (potential) new reality by seeing if he can fly out a window. If he makes it, his life continues the way it has, its meaning intact (God is Real), if he falls, he’d risk dying than face it to be true.
Naturally, he falls, severs an arm, goes mad in his state of passive nihilism. I feel this is where these Tate-inspired young men are at, the “cAn’T yOu SeE tHe HaT i Am MrS nEsBiT!”, unable to come to terms with reality, so they seek an escape offered by these gurus, and the protection of old-world patriarchy and past values. Rather than rising above the challenge, they want to bring others down below them.
Women don’t need to be the (slap) “snap out of it Buzz” for men. Buzz transitioned to an active state of nihilism when Woody convinced him that he is not an “insignificant toy”, but there’s a person that loves him, of which he can be there for him; this moment inspires Buzz to selflessly save Woody.
Existentialism is finding meaning for one’s own life. We are condemned to be free. The troublesome quote Buzz says before coming to this realisation is “Andy’s House, Sid’s House. What’s the difference?” It’s like in this state of self-loathing in his now meaningless existence, he can no longer tell what’s good from bad. It’s sad to see how this reflects the mentality of young men.
Existentialism is my key philosophy, it allows me to say things like “cinema is life”, and not feel like an absolute idiot.
Loved this perspective. Thank you
The problem is Buzz has someone who loves him like you said. Men have literally no one they can rely on. Your friends will start to get married and have their own lives, same thing for your siblings. Your parents will grow old and die and until you also grow old and die, it’s just going to be you.
@@ilikepancakes2368I guess you should probably watch the other toy story movies then, because the toys go through a lot of that
@@ilikepancakes2368 so men can't rely on their friends, their siblings, relatives or parents. You do know that that women's friends, and siblings get married too their parents die too. At this point men are just whining and complaining that life is life istead of putting an effprt into making the best out of life. The fact that people in your life have a life to live and can't be there for you 24/7 isn't an excuse to be a victim.its the same for every human adult. People that care about you will make time with you when it matters wanting them to center you on their life which is what these dudes want is not only delusions it's selfish
Comments like these are vapidly glossed by and I will no longer be passive about it.
Barbie as a coming of age movie is still my favourite interpretation. With Ken it’s him as a younger man entering adulthood but he’s incorrectly tying his identity to shallow ideals of manhood and female validation (rlly liked the way the gaze functioned in this respect). Feels like Ken kinda wants to take the easy way out by not having to acquire skills and put in work. Like he wants to be a doctor or a lifeguard but thinks obtaining the signifiers of those things is enough. At the end he realises that his self worth doesn’t have to come from whether a woman wants to be with him or not and that’s it’s cool if, like barbie, he doesn’t have his life figured out yet. This way it’s another reason Ken is so eager to cosplay adulthood like he wants to have a sort of sexual relationship with barbie but doesn’t know why like a lot of younger boys and men are told sex is important and their ability to have it with a woman is what makes them a man.
Also I’ve had I’m just Ken stuck in my head for weeks and it’s becoming a bit of a problem
'a lot of younger boys and men are told sex is important and their ability to have it with a woman is what makes them a man' Tell that to women who 'find the lncel' every time a guy online has a different opinion, or God forbid, if he criticizes toxic female behavior
@@madmax5841 Spend less time online and that ceases to be an issue. Everyone is a dick when they've got the mask of a screen.
Why are you manslapining how men find their self-worth? You're not a psychologist, you're not a social scientist, and you're not a man. So you don't really know. Men do not base their self-worth on whether or not they can have sex. There is no actual proof of this, and it's very condescending. That would be like me as a man saying that women base their self-worth on whether they're married or not, or how big their diamond is. You're just repeating the same line you've seen in Twitter 10,000 times, and it's annoying.
@@zephan6001 interestingly enough I’ve never actually used Twitter but that’s besides the point. This was just my interpretation of the movie I wasn’t trying to assert it as objective truth or anything and don’t want to appear patronising. Granted I’m not a man but I’ve had a lot of conversations with guys who have told me this exact thing- that’s where I got the idea from. Obviously it’s not the case for every man but It’s true for quite a few. I think it’s also reflected in a lot of online discourse surrounding manosphere communities. Many seem to put a lot of emphasis on having sex with lots of women and that being a signifier of their value. On the marriage side of things, I personally know many women whose self worth is wrapped up in their relationship status. Again not all but many, I’d never want to generalise and say ‘men’ or ‘women’ like they’re a monolith. Hope that clarifies my position a bit.
@@zephan6001Let's just stop arguing with these bigots. They hate men and they're a lost cause
Whether we are a man or woman, we need to stop looking for validation and happiness from others. I know I've been there. Pretty soon, you will realize that no one is coming to save you and that you have to create your own happiness.
I love the way you explained this. I was having trouble finding the words to express this. When others called it "woke" and "Feminist" I disagreed. I mean I agreed that the movie is mostly going to appeal to women and girls but the moral behind the story felt very "pro man" to me which I really loved
whats wrong with it being a feminşst movie? y'all gotta stop using feminism as an insult when you're actually talking about feminazis or sjws
@@goldenapple3952 you missed the point of their comment and just saw in it what you wanted to see
The problem with this movie and the whole idea behind it is this faux independence that women seem to want but won’t put the work in to build. In a world ran by women men aren’t needed socially but are needed to build and maintain the infrastructure. And also rely on men to maintain their service sector jobs. So weird
Most sides are wrong, including Kid. The movie is all over the place, and doesn't have a cohesive message. That's why all the takes are all over the place. They're all a little right, cause they screwed up mostly.
Ok femceI
I'm not going to lie, watching Barbie was big for me as a woman, and big for me in my views on men. Here me out:
Its easy for us as women to get swept up in man hating rhetoric. I was kind of stuck in this ridged mindset, as much as I'd deny it, that men were the problem. The Barbie movie reminded me that men weren't the problem. That right now, especially, men are so lost and hurt. They don't have rolemodels, they don't have support, they have emotions but they're told that they're wrong for having them, they're told they have to be buff, have a woman, a high paying job, deny themselves joy in pursuit of money, impress other men, measure up sexually, constantly...
Men are groomed and conditioned, into hating us. I feel like male mental health and insecurity is at an all time high. As women have become more radical (not a bad thing) men are struggling to adapt. They don't have anyone to teach them or show them, they have to look to random people around them or the internet to get any help or understanding. Like mentioned, they want to stand up and 'do' something. I don't blame them for that.
I personally can't subscribe now to radical feminism, because that would require me to sit here and blatantly lie. I'd have to disregard all of the shit I see young men going through at younger and younger ages. How do we expect men to treat women better, when no one is teaching them, supporting them, or showing them, instead of shaming and hating them before they even get the chance to try. I genuinely don't believe hating anyone gets you anywhere.
Ive spent a lot more time recently listening to what men are saying. Not hearing words and assuming, but actually listening to them. All ages. From men who are 80 right down to friends kids who are just little boys. Being an adult, I notice now, all of the conditioning that both men and women go through since birth.
I hope more people realise that by understanding and learning, we can clearly see, that we aren't each others enemies. We are meant to be here for eachother as humans, and have these tough conversations. There is good and bad and alllll of the in-between in every person. Men and women. You are enough just being you. No matter what society shoves down your throat.
Men specifically right now, whatever it is that makes you happy ...do it. The hobby you keep putting off, the random project you've wanted to do for ages, the hike you never push yourself to do, the instrument you want to take up. These are small steps that lead to big places. The self esteem you gain from watching yourself do things alone that you didn't think you'd ever do is unmatched. Start there and go slow 😊❤
Lol NOPE. You got it all wrong. The only thing wrong with ♂️ is that they're pampered constantly by society and as result they turn into forever children. We don't have an issue with ♂️, we have an issue with man-children. Which, given to the degradation of social media and all of its permeating malaise, is causing the percentage of ♂️-children to grow at an exponential rate in Western society.
Lol NOPE. You got it all wrong. The only thing wrong with them is that they're pampered constantly by society and as result they turn into forever children. We don't have an issue with ♂️ we have an issue with men- *children* Which, given to the degradation of social media and all of its permeating malaise, is causing the percentage of them to grow at an exponential rate in Western society.
Lol NOPE. You got it all wrong. The only thing wrong with men is that they're pampered constantly by society and as result they turn into forever children. We don't have an issue with "men", we have an issue with man-children. Which, given to the degradation of social media and all of its permeating malaise, is causing the percentage of man-children to grow at an exponential rate in Western society.
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate this.
Men can help each other. I got no time to fix men.
Love how nuanced you are. My personal favorite moment was when Ken looks at Barbie as she was freaking out about her entire life being turned upside down... and says to her, "sucks, doesn't it?" It went so fast but that just gutted me in a "men do matter and men are as complicated as women but we can't really talk about it" way.
I liked that scene a lot too but I saw the Barbieland as somewhere where the gendered roles of our reality were more or less flipped so it made me think how hard it is to exist as a woman who gets ignored in some male dominant spaces in our world.
Thanks. Really.
I get what she was saying, and that im kind of contradicting it with this statement, but seeing women empathize helps a lot to really internalize the sense that not all women hate and disregard us.
Obvious to you im sure, but not so obvious to some of us.
That’s so interesting
@@eylul5967 Let me tell you something, you beeing ignored in male dominated spaces doesnt mean thats sexism, men also get ignored in male dominated spaces unless they work themselfs up that hirarchy. Maybe women just arent used to this sort of socialisation where in women circles every women voices her opinion no matter what.
After I came out of 300 and heard two healthy cute young dudes muttering to each other about how that movie made them feel bad about their bodies - these kids were clearly athletes of some sort but didn't P90x or do an insane cut and dehydration routine so they didn't look screen insane and didn't realize how unrealistic the 300 body goal was (I worked with a lot of body builders so I unfortunately did know) and I couldn't completely hold in the "Yeah it sucks to think your perfectly healthy self is no longer enough eh?" Idk if they ever went on to examine their relationship between women and reality and media expectations (this was the porn star aesthetic era) but I know that first "You even as you are at peak condition, are still not enough"
My main issue with the narrative of "You're the only one that can save yourself/Nobody can nor will save you" is within the reason of why that would be the case, the dialogue never argues about why it wouldn't work and i don't even think many would be capable of giving a satisfying answer.
I explored extensively the "why" because i found it concerning that the idea of being alone on the path of self discovery was considered optimal and sometimes even desired to the alternatives so much that nowdays it's almost considered common sense without evening questioning it.
Most of the times i found the reason we have such a firm idea on why it wouldn't work is based on its reliability, once you introduce someone in the equation you are forfeiting your agency in it, instead of acting on your own will you're at the mercy of someone else's.
I can't help but see them as tool of self preservation and defense mechanisms, the narrative is pushed forward because it's the safest way of doing it not the one that would yield the highest result.
I know i'm pretty much falling into a technicism here but i wish those notions to be considered more situational and less absolute, you may find meaning and joy in someone, sure it's risky but i think leaning on a more neutral stance would open up doors to so many opportunities. I wish for a life with less barriers among individuals not one with more.
I appreciate this take on things so very much. A hero is not someone who waits for society to save them, they embrace that part of themselves which is valiant and build the society they want to see around them.
You talk about things that really matter, you express yourself so eloquently that it's a real pleasure to hear, and also beautifully pleasing to the eyes. Thanks for your work.
The healthiest advice from a film regarding masculinity is "never put p*ssy on a pedestal"
And that patriarchy and misogyny, like this comment need to reth8nk who men are. A lot of men believe and want want be above women and even you, just think a woman is valuable by what she can provide (your pleasure and gratification). Exactly, don't put ina pedestal the idea of an object, stop having those ideas of "I want a woman by her p*ssy and let's treat people with respect beyond beauty, age or money. What about that?
@@marte1376man is eternal and unchanging, a monolith.
@@PauperPeccator then welcome destruction. Whatever you resist, persist. Life is in constant change, Buda, Jesus Christ and taoist already taught that.
@@marte1376women set themselves in this mess and blame it on us? No way. More power to men
@@Fede45454 I invite to read about the objectification theory in women, is usually a hot topic between people and women as well. Also there's an interesting movie called "promising young woman" that explains the double standards between genders and the normalisation of violence from men as women because what that's what you're told it was to be masculine (kidology explains this in the video) The examples are infinite, this behaviour is not random and there are core issues that may explain our choices. You need an open mind to understand this topic and it's a long journey.
Word selection is important, is not the same the phrase"never put 😸 on a pedestal" than " I want to be free from my attachments". But I understand it's easy to blame the other because it's not what I want it to be for me.
I once started slow clapping at the end of a movie to see what the other movie goers would do. They didn't clap with me.
Which movie was it?
@@platgeslagengehaktbal The BFG
@@mdccxcii6340 that's a bit sad, the BFG was a good one
@@platgeslagengehaktbal They liked the movie. They just didn't like it when a random stranger started slow clapping somewhere near the back of the theatre.
I would have ended it right there
I was getting so bored of youtube, but your videos are teaching me whole new ways to think. You are exceptional.
I saw it opening night and it was a lot of wooing, hollering, laughing, it was great, loved it, we all were on the same page
As a man who went through identity issues when I was younger and am now very content with my masculinity and life. I really loved Ken's journey and the message the movie had for young men. Also the movie was just fun
Men ☕️
It was cute.
I think Barbie has been created purposefully in such a way that people can take many interpretations from it which sends everyone into a crazy debate that makes the film famous.
I agree. Whether or not that was intentional, it’s a brilliant strategy.
I really have no idea why people keep saying this. I don’t see how the message could have been any less clear. They basically had lines clearly saying it and monologues explaining it.
@@billusher2265 because the argument can be made that the ways these things were expressed were so on the nose that it could be satirical, but with just enough ambiguity in that area that people cant necessarily be sure.
@@superhydroyeast I see. Personally based on interview comments from the director and Margot Robbie I don’t really think it’s the case.
@@billusher2265 You're right. From the interviews that was not their intention. However, their execution left many gray areas for interpretation.
Ryan Gosling Ken is not Stereotypical Ken, he's Beach Ken. Carry on.
You fail to mention the moment barbie returns to barbie world and Ken has taken over with the barbies serving Ken’s and they’re happy up until they are told not to be.
they werent happy u fool it's like the shepherd wives where they had no choice
As a man I agree that ultimately women cannot save us, if we are not willing or able to save ourselves. There are no doubt good, compassionate women who advocte for men out of a genuine concern for men's issues, but women do not comprehend masculinity or the male experience, nor do the vast majority of women care enough to invest time in trying to understand men.
I don't share the dislike of MGTOW, at least as it appears in theory. It's not about giving women power as the "enemy" (again, in theory), but about focusing on yourself, your self-growth, hobbies, career, family and friends. It's a philosophy that decentres women, because women do not define a man's worth or his virtue.
I find that women greatly overestimate their importance to men and masculinity. Women aren't central to men's identities, they are simply peripheral as most men's lives don't revolve around sex and dating. Sex, in many cases, becomes merely a distraction or a way to fill the time, which I suppose is a sign of the times where we've become increasingly disconnected and removed from fulfilling love and relationships.
I personally don't see the problem in removing yourself from women if you find it benefits you as a man. I'm not talking
about stewing in bitterness and blaming women for all your woes, of course, but rather about focusing on what being a man means to you, and how you find happiiness and peace in being your true self, whatever that may be.
Women can empower men, but they choose not to, which is fine. The problem is that they force us to empower women
I definitely agree with the things you've said, but unfortunately the problem is the most "socially successful" men propagate the belief that men need women to validate their masculinity, and even shame men (covertly or not) if they fail to ingratiate themselves with women. Not to mention that in order for society to prosper co-operation is paramount and it doesn't help that many men ignore the inequalities that men face in order to appease the women they feel they need to substantiate their existence and provide them with a purpose.
"Women over estimate their importance to men and masculinity"... I'm going to have to disagree with you on this part.
Frankly, men can never leave women's business alone. I agree men should decentre women though
@@nicholascoob1350 Absolutely. Some of these alpha/sigma redpill types don't talk about anything of substance that would improve men's lives, but rather they hyperfocus on how to "get women", making women respect you, how awful dating is when i comes to modern women etc. Now, I'm not saying there's no truth to this, but hyperfocusing solely on women isn't a solution to men's issues. It merely perpetuates th paradigm that men must get validation and respect from women in order to be "real men".
And if they're not talking about women, they're "sigma grins" cryptobros who think a man's value is derived from material things. Ambition, drive and a touch of competitiveness are all positive traits, but focusing on matrial things as an end gosl just leads to more emptiness.
Men removing themselves from women is no different than removing themselves from mother nature abd tge physical world. You can live inside your head in a four walled room. That is what you can do, but that just is a form of slow suicide. Men need women like they need food and water. Its been that way since they were born and needed mom to survive. Sooner you accept that and stop fooling yourself saying they are "peripheral" the faster you will grasp why you are on a physical planet like earth. If you are not living to protect the world, women animals ans children, you will always feel lost and meaningless. But feel free to derive fleeting pleasures from your relationships with inanimate objects or competing with other men. You dont need their approval. You do it because doing that fulfills the ultimate purpose of being given masculine gifts.
Why have I never heard of you before? This was incredible.
Your videos are always so good, wishing you the best! 🍀
While it's true of men... Isn't it the case that everyone sort of feels undervalued because people aren't really valued?
We have a culture where money is spoken of as if it is the one and only value and then you crush yourself getting it and it only kinda makes you happy.
Bingo.
One striking thing to me is not only that men are lost; it's that most women seem to think they aren't.
They were clapping in the theater.
I'm clapping at this marvelous video essay!
At best, empathy for men almost always ends with hollow words and a lack of meaningful action.
Even here. It's not listening to men. It's simply: men have problems. "Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps and sort it out yourselves."
Most Western countries have a political office for women and specialised departments for women but none for men, university campuses have womens groups but actively stop the formation of mens groups, DEI doesn't act for men even in areas where they are behind.
The patriarchy changes society to address women's problems but won't even publicly accept men's issues. Feminism is broadly accepted in society, but men's rights groups are shunned and silenced through shaming strategies.
Do you think men are going to continue to engage in that world.
You understand that the bootstrap mentality is deeply patriarchal, right?
Women act on HypoAgency. They will NEVER push for active change. It is ALWAYS "Men need to step up their Game". They LITERALLY make themselves weaker in this modern World. They push the victim narrative, they are the ones which want the actual toxic Man, the Mogger, the aggressive Dude. If you show Emotions they just allow a small amount they are capeable to deal with. They want the Narrative of the Man as the active being. They want to be dominated in a "gentle" way, to be cared for when things get harsh. The overall job of doing this was just outsourced to Society at large. Where, surprise, SURPRISE: Men do the law enforcement, fight the Wars, build the Infrastructure, invent Stuff. If weak and emotional Men were a turn-on for Women, you would see ALL Men adapt to this prettty quickly. You DON`T see this. I wonder why...Who gets all the broads? ALWAYS the Winners. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE LOSERS. Only if you are an INCONVENIENCE or a THREAT. Then it is all about making you shut up again with empty plattitudes or punishment. Just vile. And sad.
@@Laura-gd4ku That was his point. Women supported the patriarchy too. The rest oviously had no other choice. But do you really think Women back then wanted to trade lives with Men?! Life was not "free" by any means.... Women relied on the patriarchy for safety. It was not the supression of Women, but the supression of other rivals which wanted to take your Women. Only now the living conditions are safe for Women, where Work doesn`t kill you anymore, childbirth became safe, there is a functioning social state and law enforcement. Where this is not the case, "Patriarchy" exists to safeguard Women as precious commodity. It demands Men to throw their lifes away to care for Women and to provide for them, fight for them. Because the Areas where Patriarchy still exists today are highly violent with low quality of living. Women are shielded from these harsh conditions. I recommend reading: " The Myth of Male Power" by Warren Farrell. Also, women LOVE Men who are stoic and strong. Socially and especially sexually. Shown time and time again.
@@Laura-gd4ku you proved his point, you tried to blame men instead, no one ever does that to women
When I hear somebody say, choose yourself, that is different to me, then pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Choosing myself means looking at what I actually want like and dislike, and really feeling within myself how much that differs or matches the expectations that I thought I had to comply with as a man.
And once I start, realizing that I am my own best friend, it’s easier to have friends make friends and find a community where I feel excepted. For me, that was a polyamorous community.
So yeah, bootstraps is highly patriarchal. Choose yourself is not. And I think that’s the message of the video. Is that we should choose ourselves. It helps Dim down the crazy, oppressive noise of patriarchal expectations and frees us to get to know ourselves, and then others.
I think men can rediscover themselves the minute they decide to. Reject whatever world people are crafting nowadays. Embrace your true nature. You’ll be hated by most; but those who embrace you will be more than enough for the rest of your life.
@@shmokeyjoints my comment has zero to do with love or being a hoe.
Just get a remote job and move, not all of the world is lost to toxic leftism
@@shmokeyjointsJust find a woman in your position brother,. it's actually easier than you think these days.
@@shmokeyjointsFind another single mother or woman your own age to start
@@shmokeyjointsYou don't find love. It comes to you. And if it happens you end up alone, that isn't bad.
this is the best breakdown / insight on the film I've ever heard, Id wager to say the best on the internet.
You’re the greatest essayist ❤
The patriarchy did not benefit all men, it did not empower all men, it did not serve all men. It did not benefit all men, and that is a powerful point no one talks about enough,
Patriarchy is a made up concept.
It was built for kings.
The rest of us are just their slaves or serfs.
Thats why i find patriarchy logic insulting. Almost none of us ever saw the benefits of it. History remembers the kings the pyramids were built for, but not the ones who built them.
The distribution of wealth and power is the same as the intelligence curve: more male geniuses, more male idiots. Except that for every male CEO, there's 1,000 homeless men
I've definitely experienced the clapping in a theatre before. It's not common but it does happen. I still find it so weird, it's not like the people who made the film are there to appreciate the applause.. I guess it's a way to feel connected to other people, like "yes lots of us thought that was particularly great'.
I appreciate your choice of thumbnail for this video. Theres something about clicking on a relatively subtle thumbnail and being surprised at how relavent the topic and movie choice was for the topic. It could have been a far more click baiting thumbnail about ryan goseling or something but it honestly felt like opening an advent calendar. Presentation was on point and I appreciate the work you put into this
Clapping after a great film is normal in my state lol. It unifies all of us strangers who've been sitting closely together for 2+ hours. 2 hours of hearing each other laugh, cry, eating, whispering to each other about the film and even couples showing their passion for each other. It's an intimate setting. We're basically family, until we walk out of the building. Then we're strangers again. 😅
CRINGE
Family? 💀
@@Chillikilli we consoomed the same screen for 2 hours
I've been in theaters across the states, and this has happened multiple times...and I never understand it. Who is supposed to receive this praise...yourselves? Why not just talk about what you liked then and there?
@@esalkor03 bro my family claps and I sit there hating my life, it’s not like we have one brain
i’ve always found it mindblowing how many men really get shocked by how many things women put up with and say they could never deal with all of thay … then STILL ask women to be their peace in the same breath.
it’s really just one punch after the other for us.
men really need to fix themselves, we’re SO TIRED of holding your hand and try to help and u still dont get it. and now that we stopped, it’s all crocodile tears and we’re STILL the bad guy.
men need help, like trully. and i say this caringly.
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY PEOPLE
But fr this is an existential issue its not solved by one person if you have a friend or a family member who is struggling and you could help them its your choice to help them or not that simple you dont need to help everyman on the street corner piont them to jhon verveaky for that shit put shit into perspective for me atleast
Its not like woman where born with this capacity for modern social understanding of metamodernism
what things do women deal with that men couldn't? you sound like another entitled self absorbed women who think life is just hard for women only, get over yourself
This comment is more fake than UFOs. That is how out of touch with reality it is.
Try putting up with being told you can't get SAed by a woman if you're a man.
Another woman out of touch with what men are really asking for and what they actually deal with. Women have not been holding men’s hands, especially not the feminists.
Welcome back. Your presence is much appreciated. ❤
This is really, really interesting. In the beginning I did not know whether to agree or disagree. I think you are making a lot of (good) points.
I hope your video gets more views. I think you got it 100%.
Ultimately meaning in life comes from receiving and giving respect. To and from members of society, to and from partners. One can and must find a purpose in life on his/her own, yes. But society is not the side product of individuals working for their personal goals. It is a product from of men and women forming relationships and families and teamworking and living together for the common cause. It is not random coincidence that society seems less stable today and people getting more individualistic and lonely at the same time. One is cause of the other.
Thank you, a voice of reason. Individualism is itself the issue as a lot of meaning is derived from family and by extension community but men's positions and contributions are devalued and woman don't appear encouraged to build families...
Thanks. Haven't seen it yet. I loved your review
Thanks so much for a very interesting video.
I agree with most things in this essay except two: for one I feel like this is way too individualistic, as others have pointed out. Another thing with the point of opposing even self-objectification, it's because that sort of objectification goes beyond gender and gets more at our common humanity. I don't oppose objectification because I want to control women or tell them what to do, it's precisely because I see them as more than just their bodies that I feel this way as a man. If it was more common for men to do it, then I would be just as opposed to it. Also, in the vast vast majority of cases women turn to that sort of work due to some underlying systemic issue, not individual choice. Although I will say that as a disabled guy who is not seen in a s*xual light, I do feel ambiguous about my own position on the matter sometimes. And also speaking of disability, those of us with a disability usually have little to no agency through a combination of societal and biological factors, so the individualist narrative doesn't work for us.
i hate the whole “objectification is empowering” narrative that has a grip on society.
it’s a capitalist lie and i will never condone it. we are not objects to be sold. our lives and sexualities are not valuable because they make profit. we are so much more.
Wish more disabled people would speak on their views of these sorts of dynamics. Especially because as you mentioned: that individualist view is of diminished value to many of them.
@@uwu-fm2kj I think, I already answered this but for some reason my comments are getting deleted. But I do have videos about that perspective on my own channel.
Thank you! I've tried to express a similar idea to a friend and was immediately brushed off. I really do feel that Ken was actually the focus of this movie, and it really is for him in a sense that it is speaking to both women and men's feelings of inferiority and victimization in society.
Hall of fame type analysis and video! Loved the perspective❤
Thank you for your thoughts and the time you put into formulating this, much appreciated.
I absolutely agree with you and am happy that people are talking about it. Yes, it is not the best movie out there but it is definitely a conversation starter which I think is needed.
I had such a blast watching the movie. I can't remember the last time I had this much fun and laugh in the cinema. The projection room was packed with teenage girls but they didn't have as much fun as me and my friend, us both in the thirties 🤣🤣. So relatable.
Your voice, and how you speak is so lovely. You can tell you're highly intelligent and logical.
New here. I love your commentary. I haven’t seen the movie and don’t expect to see it in the theater, you provided a great summary with thoughtful commentary. I want to speak more directly about it but wow, I need some time to consider this.
Here's a male perspective:
Barbie is a feminist film talking about men by accident. The whole "being seen" angle was PR. And PR is the actual force behind the Barbenheimer phenomenon.
Now the fact that the crisis of masculine in a feminine world was even acknowledged made this argument blow up. (for real or for algorithmic sake - I don't know yet, most people I see discussing or even caring are the talking heads and the people that consume talking head content.)
But I liked the analogy between god is dead and men need to find new standards for what it means to be a man. What if faith was a need and not a idea that infested us? What if female selection wasn't hindering the pursuit of self actualization but the only real actualization that mattered? WHy are we convinced that abstract concepts and rationalizations are a better way of living than being stupid, fvcking and having more kids than you can keep alive? Why do we elevated cognizant people imagine the feelings of savage as being inferior to ours? I can attest they are happier than my intellectual friends. Are their problems harder? Do they make stupid choices, yes, and yes. But still have more happiness than the days or weeks of bliss a intellectual gets when achieving a life goal before the emptiness creeps in, before his self doubt and want to prove himself or explore, or to know more takes over him again. You can't be more sysiphian than a modern woke self aware person in therapy.
I want to mention that my gripe with modernism isn't related to gender - women have their own spiraling despair to deal with in a world that asks of them as much as the top alpha dog in the open space office - but with none of the safety nets of a boys club or the guardrails of the implication of physical violence men face when trying to dunk on someone weaker. I am just saying - what if the existential problem doesn't have a solution? What if we created a problem we can't think ourselves out of? What if we never really got to grasp with what makes us a human animal, the emotional and biochemical fundamentals, before smart nerds decided to tarnish habits and social inertia and baiting us with superficial childish wants like: respect, safety, freedom and in the pursuit of them we dropped the behaviors that gave our forefathers meaning, a reason to live in a cruel world. What if the promise of love is more important than getting it 3 swipes and a uber ride for you as a human animal?
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For some reason it really cracked me up that you're in the north, and I have to say I don't remember a standing ovation when I saw it in Skipton (but maybe as a northerner it was so normal that I didn't notice). Just found your channel, always enjoy listening to someone who marches to their own beat. Totally agree with your analysis as well although I'd add that there's something comical about how barbie really lacked charisma and how Ken stole the show. It's hard to know how much was intentional and how much was accidentally insightful...
I’ll be pointing ppl your way that don’t get the film, you really nailed it
It's an interesting take on the movie.
The conclusion is way too pull yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps-y.
It's solid advice in personal conversations but it's about as philosophically insightful as pointing out water is wet and absolutely useless as a solution to address a societal issue. You'd think a feminist would know better but alas.
Being a warrior isn't only about destroying or controlling your enemy. Sure, the best atribute for being a warrior that deals best with the enemy is sadism, but as can be seen in the japanase samurai code, it's not only about obliterating your enemy or winning a battle. it's also about you as a person, about the people you are trying to protect. And most men are like that or should be like that. Willing to give their life in the defense of the people he cares the most about. For me that's one of the reasons why men are lost today. They aren't wanted, they aren't appreciated and are demonized as the weak, bad men which should be kept at bay by them.
What a brilliant take
Creating meaning by myself sounds like a lame proposition when I could just get to know whoever made the stars and the earth and all that cool stuff.
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I find it very odd that people, even when they start considering men and their issues, treat them as an alien entity.
So long as we are treat as that and not as half of a couple that makes a family and builds life, the problem won't be solved.
Yeah, I think this is important for both sides of this cultural gender-discussion to understand. Both men and women are equally essential for building healthy individuals, families, and societies, just in different ways. Men and women need each other, anything that serves to alienate one side from the other is only furthering the social problems we are experiencing.
Brilliant as always.
Heeeeeey, you are back. After your loneliness video I was worried and wondering!
Good video, enjoyed! ❤
It doesn’t resolve my issues or preference for the black pill but it was interesting to watch
I'm not lost. I'm chilling.
The Barbie movie really reminded me of the documentary Tough Guise. It also reminded me of the cyberpunk saying "Style over Substance", it seemed like both Ken and Barbie were defined by Style but ultimately yearned for the substance of self, community, and understanding. Felt very Dystopian but in pink and mink.
Interesting take, thank you for your time.
First you talk about how isolated and lonely everyone is and consuming crap all the time, but then you say modern women don't need modern men and vice versa. I think everyone needs everyone now more than ever. Man, woman, or another gender identity...it doesn't matter...we need each other to get through this life, which is getting more complex and scarier each day.
Thank you, I mean that.
I didn’t think I’d come across a comment of someone who actually gets it.
On one hand men and women are told they don’t need each other to look inward then next minute it’s about how mwgtow are toxic and individualistic
I’m no fan of mgtow I think people need each other too but it’s odd to criticize the people who are doing what you’re telling them to do. It’s almost as if that ain’t it chief
Everybody needs each other,but we still have our individual selves and person. What they mean is you don't need to be glued to someone to survive. You don't need tosee yourself as someone's girlfriend/boyfriend,sibling, parent e t.c to have an identity. That's what individualism is.
@@caramelese8520 add friends on there too. If you don’t need gf,parent,siblings why stop there.
We don’t need shit hell yeah brotherr
@@caramelese8520 We are hyper dependent, on everything form food to shelter. Language itself is a social tool, which your using for a reason. Most don’t even survive within society without full on chaperones, until after 18.
Wow! So articulate as always. This was perfect I love your takes!
That's very deep, Respect!
shinji choke scene is the ultimate response he had when he was told asuka will not help him. ultimately people need each other still and we will simply make a "meaning" out of what suits us best if left to philosophize with no genuine experience as buffering.
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What bothers me is how nowadays people simply assume that individualism is the objective philosophical truth. I think it's probably due to the success of both capitalism (where happiness is a matter of personal consumerism) and psychology/psychotherapy (where happiness is a matter of pure inward reflection). So when discussing any problem, the common solution offered is always to simply not need others, and be satisfied with some sort of private new age buddhist nirvana, and push aside any negative feeling towards the world with some stoic indifference. Like, did your parents abuse you or treat you badly? Just stop caring about them, be happy doing your own thing, and stop talking to them: that's the standard modern solution for interpersonal problems.
My point here is not so much to defend the opposite view (that others matter, communities matter, communication is possible, solipsism is bad, etc.), but simply to ask why do we dismiss such perspectives so easily? Somehow people have taken a handful of modern philosophers and decided that they have already won the debate, so no other view needs to be considered. People love Sartre and do not care about Kierkegaard; people adore Marcus Aurelius and completely ignore Plato; people are open to try all the newest meditation techniques but despise religion.
It's always the case that society is myopic. It's no wonder that every age thinks it's the best and we don't seem to be able to learn from the mistake of our past.
The old saying "Hell are other people", implies (in my opinion) that you should help your community. So the "objective philosophical truth" stated is obviously false. If everyone is good, everybody is good (of course, except the society tells you nobody is good then) but you know your bottomline, and shouldn't to much compare to others (not never compare). The stop caring about them never works.
The individual problem is that telling people they are enough is a cruel thing to do, because they aren’t enough. None of us is enough. I don’t know you, personally, but I can still say with great confidence that you are not enough. - Freddie Deboer
I think there’s truly a misconception of what the manisphere is and it’s central message. I think this discussion is best made with men not at men!
I would argue men need to adjust with the new world. In reality, some men are doing just fine, while a bunch of other men are not sure how to pivot or evolve with the drastic change(s) of the world.
Should slaves have adjusted to being slaves? It’s just a question so don’t flip
@@off6848 One group, slaves, were subjected to colonization and deprived of human rights. One group, men, are struggling with the adjusting to the changes feminism and the women suffrage movement has afforded to another group, women, who were deprived of rights everyone should have, and now women longer has to follow the traditional expectations before the 1970s that required them to subject themselves to undesirable relationships with the men.
@@Roman__King who said trans Atlantic slaves not all slaves were colonized their own people sold them out.
Here’s the important part “one group was suffering x and the other group is suffering y”
Still suffering any way you slice it.
I agree men should just adjust to their surroundings but I just take it farther and so should slaves hence the reality of slaves who had good lives and housing when they adjusted and other slaves who died in rebellion and resentment.
Adjusting to your situation no matter what is always the answer
@@off6848 After elaborating further, I agree the point(s) you made here are valid. Either way, slaves were punished and oppressed. Some adjusted and submitted, and some rebelled and fought for their freedom. Women got rights and advocated for policies/legislation they honestly deserved to have passed in the government. They've acquired the ability to not rely on subjecting themselves to undesirable settings/scenarios because they were deprived. And now one group, women, has gained while the other group, men, could argue they have "lost purpose" but they didn't really lose the capability to live the lives they want for themselves. Women have adjusted and excelled exponentially because of the world today, and men, as you've mentioned, are struggling and suffering, but for very different reasons slaves, and women before the 1970s, were struggling and suffering from.
@@Roman__King great civilized discussion here 👍
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Such thoughtful commentary. Congrats on passing 150k subs now. I went to see the movie in Kingston, Jamaica and the audience was full of both teenage boys and girls in friend groups. It was very encouraging to see.
one aspect that people seem to be missing is that this movie is NOT meant to show reality in any way. It is supposed to be a distorted mirror image looked at though the pink lens of a very specific, very narrowly defined perspective of modern mainstream commercialised social media feminism (from a lack of a better description for it), and the perception of women's experiences in the modern world, in the idealised world, and their purposefully full of misconceptions, misunderstandings, shallow, simplified perception of men and their role and struggles in life. Anyone talking about this movie seems to miss that crucial layer and talks about it as if it was a direct representation of things and then often politicises it (and effectively misrepresents what it tries to say). Luckily you didn't do the politicising and interpreting it as woke or insidiously oppressively traditionalist or whatever, and the considerations it has pushed you to are amazing to hear that there are women's voices noticing these things and bringing them to the light. Great video ;)
In 6th grade we were asked by our teacher to write an essay about who our "hero" was. I wrote about the kid who was doing kickflips and was scolded by my teacher for it, saying that's not what a hero is.. When I was 20 i discovered philosophy through RUclips because it wasn't taught in public school. How am i supposed to write an essay about my hero when I don't even know the word philosophy. That's the western school system.
Hilarious
"To control another person is not true freedom, true freedom comes from within you" WOW that is a powerful quote. If more people understood that then perhaps we wouldn't be quite so eager to exploit and subjugate each other
So how about the people that are addicted to drugs? Do you people know that lust is addition? Also being a sinner is being a slave so nobody is free until repenting and giving their life to Jesus Christ for he is the only one that can free us
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I think that if more younger men had a purpose in life then alot of these problems would be fixed. This is why role models and mentors are extremely important especially with men.
that's the core problem men lack purpose
@@Liza-gd7jf How did men have purpose in the past? Whatever it was, do it again.
I think the Barbie movie can be seen as pro men only by the lens of women.
They finally came to the conclusion that men are human too.
But the takeaways that you gave are things that most men kind of already know.
We know no one is going to save us, and most of us are already looking for our own meaning in life already.
The main problem that men have nowadays is that we're not loved and appreciated, that's it.
At least that's my opinion.
Loved for what? You dont do anything. No bringing out the thrash, not paying on dates, cheating, flirting with othet women, no job...we dont need you. You men on the othet hand NEED US.
@@Kareena1988 you proved my point sweetie.
@@tomasvmusic you have no point "Ken" 🤣
@Kareena1988 Lol big mouth and then you become typical regretful catlady #658082. Do you actually think women can handle loneliness better? Lol the delusion
@@Kareena1988loved for what? See the nearest military for veterans. Men volunteer to die to protect their women…or at least they did, cause ain’t many men doin that for this generation of women.
The film is actually about Ken as a fallen hero