To be honest, I'm not really surprised. With people getting lonelier by the year, the social climate we have today, and people glued to social media more, no wonder that these kinds of TikTok blew up.
What I don't understand, is why don't lonely people get together and solve each other's problems? Some people say that they're very lonely but will also avoid socialization like the plague. I guess social anxiety may be the root of the problem?
@@leehalloway8787 With many people being much more rude/tempermental ever since the lockd9wns, its no wonder that many gave up on physical socialization
@@leehalloway8787lonely people are normally bad as socializing and get into a self fulfilling loop when interactions go bad. Not only that lonely women and lonely men are completely different beasts. Lonely men normally have no one lonely women normally don't have the person they want.
This is the evolution of women being really good at customer service. I say 'what can I get fer ya?' and play nice every day at work all day. 'anything I can get ya or ya just looking?' 'lemmie know if you have any questions!' and I have stupid knowledge about every item and memory or items long gone.....at work I am an NPC. I have some special customers I break character for and actually joke and talk to. So it's not all bad.
Isnt that literally their job in costumer service? Like you understand that these people have to be nice to sell shit, its not genuine its just a show but that my friend is a tale as old as time (or as capitalism to be precisly)
I’m not sure that it’s just “being nice to sell shit” though. It’s having “catch phrases,” or repeated expressions, all day long to the point where you can’t even recall a single thing you’ve said at the end of the day because you have not been in your own head. I think it’s more than just selling shit, and I think OP has a good point as I have known other woman to experience this, especially in all-women retail spaces
@@lanam6459 it's rarely talked about how GOOD women really are. I work in an all male environment but I'm stuck with 90% of the customers because I fake nice better than them. They have a fit after 1 customer. Not like I enjoy it but I just pretend. It's my job can switch my brain off to make money. Jobs are all draining in some way.....I think switching off and being a catchphrase person saves the real me. So she can go home and draw and be creative. Nobody even knows she's there.
@@Laura-gd4ku yeah it’s definitely the job, I got the impression OP’s point was that customer service jobs are really not that different from the NPC stuff that this video is about
People shaming Pinkydoll despite the fact she was working as a cleaner and a stripper but now she sits in front of a phone reacting to emotes but somehow that is worse. I am not pro-sex work but being a tiktoker, even if it is npc, is safer than being a stripper and cleaning strangers houses. It seems like those tweets care more about surface level dignity than the fact that if pinky kept working as a stripper/maid she would be subjected to more risks of sexual harassment and sexual assault.
@@Verårtu...that have the option of swiping away and watching something else if they don't want to watch someone emote. The cringe is NOTHING compared to the actual risks of her getting assaulted like the original comment mentioned
Honestly I don't like her for trying to get ppl more interested in her of by claiming she is 19 once even releasing pictures of herself as an obvious adult claiming she was 15 in it
These attempts at filling intimacy voids are like something from a dystopian film. I've seen everything from VR porn, to GF and BF comfort ASMR roleplay. It started with porn, and has now creeped into other areas of intimacy that sex can no longer work as a bandaid for when people are feeling lonely. It's more than wanting a shot of dopamine now, it's trying to fill a black hole. AI is facing a brunt of this too, both being abused by psychopaths and/or filling in these intimacy roles for lonely people. This can even be seen in memes (I know), that say things like "I don't want s*x anymore, I want my head patted, or to be told I'm doing good" Comfort, emotional bonds, validation and praise. I think this started a lot earlier than most realise, too. I certainly remember people role-playing through WoW, taking it way more seriously than a light hearted dose of escapism on game night
Yes, it's called the intimacy crisis which is related to the meaning crisis. There's a cognitive science professor who is working on it. He might be the most important person of our time.
@lkae4 lol working on it... I don't think you understand how deep we are into there's no fixing this 😂it's over its done, accept it and enjoy the last bit of time we have on this planet before our species becomes extinct
@@rejectionisprotection4448 What if we automate the entire thing and instead of humans mimicing AI we can just make a gpt powered chatbot that also livestreams a human model that looks highly realistic doing said things instead. (You will be able to find a very similar product nowadays if you dive deep enough into the rabbit hole).
It's because women are acting like sex robots and it's disturbing. I don't blame the girls for doing this, I just hate how men take pleasure in it, it's gross. Just like how I don't blame female pornstars who enjoy really rough bdsm, I just hate that male audiences love watching them. It's turning women into non human objects of sex and desire
The commodifying of intimacy, even the NPC thing, is the absolutely most pathetic, sad and disturbing phenomenon I’ve ever witnessed. I don’t know whether to cry or puke.
there are moments where I don't want to have sex. there are sexual things I do not want to do. assuming I will like a sexual act because we're in a relationship and just doing something sexual to me without asking for my CONSENT is TRAUMATIZING and ABUSIVE!!
Yeah, 100% true I got to that part of the vid and I really can't get behind what she's saying, it almost feels like stepping back in time when marital rape wasn't illegal. Just because you love and have known someone for years does not give them the right to do whatever they want with ur body
As a cosplayer myself I have been asked to make this kind of content. And it's very scary bc fans are expectant of me to behave a certain way and people are often to shocked to hear me speak or behave in ways that do not fix the box of a "cutesy UwU perfect e-girl". Self objectification does not work. And in fact it's even more dehumanizing when you accept it and try to make it your brand. Sure it's easy to make the bag and benefit from people's fetishes and loneliness however it juices out all your humanity. I feel like an imposter most times because I have to be someone I'm not. It also makes it impossible to date, make friends etc. In reality most of these women are just as isolated , depressed and lonely as their fanbases/clientele. And I think that has a lot to do with " pretty " women just being nothing more than just a commodity. I can't tell you how many "egirls" I know who also feel the same way.
But if you do only the pc stuff you have all the upside without the negatives of doing OF and corn and you might make that bag, because doing corn and OF can destroy your life if you don’t become the top 2% of creators.
@@weird-guy Ikrrr! I have a frens who've tried of and have failed miserably. Personally bc I know NPC stuff is a HUGE fetish and it would appeal to alot of the demographic I want to be far away from is why I personally wouldn't do it. I definitely see the appeal though. It's an easy way to make bank.
as a guy i can relate. there is many people of both genders who just use the other side as a commodity, sometimes both using each other. i hope people who love deeply can find each other
I’m an Artists and I relate a lot to the “Everyone expecting you to be a certain way but it doesn’t fit with you anymore” I made my art account when I was a kid and I do a lot of fanart mainly because I love the shows I’m drawing and for me it’s like a personal love letter to them. It’s also stupidly popular. Any kind of content creation that’s in a nerd space is a big double edge sword. There’s been a lot of times where I’ve wanted to make art of ocs, or just my own shit but I never do it partially because I know no one with care. So I’m in the process of I guess doing a rebrand, In an attempt to be more authentically myself because the account and art I made as a kid just isn’t me anymore. Maybe u can try something like that? Or just slowly branch out and do more content u want/being more authentic over time. I won’t lie to you it will isolate a part of ur audience but it might be a part of ur audience u don’t really want to associate with anyway and the people who r genuine fans always stick around. If you care a lot about the art you do or cosplaying and want to branch out you should just do it because it will honestly just be more enjoyable and not make u want to rip ur eyes out trying to please some fucking algorithm that was made by a bug eyed freak in silicone vally!!!!!!
but parents also go to offices , go door to door distributing newspaper , go to clean washrooms and all kinds of jobs leaving their kids . Parents also do zoom calls with boss from home. Not sure how that is different. Is it because she is acting a role here ?
Sex workers eventually get deplatformed or censored on most social media apps. Pinkydoll and the of NPC streamers pioneered this type of live streaming to promote their adult services. They have to find new ways to continue to promote their work. This type of of livestreaming is a side hussle not their main source of revenue. Evryone else saw that is is a good way to make money and jumped on the bandwagon. NPC characters or AI impersonation is a fetsish amongst some circles. Its just finally reached the mainstream.
Exactly. That’s why I was confused at the amount of people who were shocked. I thought they were just faking or over-exaggerating their disgust for content. But I guess most people really didn’t know about this market. It just goes to show that I’m very desensitized to the peculiarities of social media. 😂
what if instead of AI photo generation capabilities we get AI video generation capabilities, I think we are not that far away. Combine that with unblocked gpt systems, we can create an AI that reacts to human input and shows images that matches the desires of people, if someone shall be able to keep such technology memory intensive and large, they can sell the services of the AI at a high price and make billions instead of millions like these live streamers. The technology behind chat gpt was there. Checkout when AI dungeon was created, it was done 5 years ago.
it's disturbing that people would be turned on by someone pretending to be non-human, pretending to not have thoughts or feelings or human rights. it's like they don't want to think of the people they are sexually attracted to as PEOPLE, they don't want to see the humanity in them. that's terrifying.
I remember reading about a man who took out the vagina from his sex doll and carried it around with him like a comfort blanket. Now THAT'S objectification.
When you mentioned that men would sexualise you regardless, it reminded me of that time I posted a mirror selfie of myself at WORK in winter (I was in a brown crew neck) and a guy replied saying he can imagine how great I’d look with nipple piercings 😫 Mind you, I live in a very conservative country so my clothes weren’t showing anything AND I always am pretty covered up. I would say my boobs are “average-big” so I don’t even get it. This made me so uncomfortable I deleted the post and deleted his DM without ever opening it (I didn’t want to give him the satisfaction of knowing I even saw his message). It might sound simple but it actually scarred me. Imagine if I was one of those ig hotties, the harassment would be too much.
Hey , I'm an artist who works really hard at their craft . I realized no matter how hard I worked or how talented I was at the end of the day my male peers will sexualize me or befriend me just to have a chance to smash. Its sad and something I struggle with
@@starcloud8411maybe your art is shit and your looks are above average. Then ofc that's what will draw most attention. You don't have a right to control what kind of attention you get.
Consent in a relationship is important regardless of how long you've been with the partner. You can know your partner inside out, it still doesn't give you the right to decide for them whether if they are in the mood or not. Especially when they are not concious (sleeping). There are ways of waking your significant other up in a sexually sugestive way without starting a sex act while they can't conciously say if they're ok or not ok with it.
This section of the video is the only part I found problematic. I understand where she's coming from, but I think the example was bad. A better example would have been to have to ask for consent to kiss your partner, or hug them (if they have no trauma related to this). The rest of the video was interesting!
@@effmltalks Depends what the aim of the video is. If it's to get through to people who enjoy the NPC trend due to having "actors" react how they want them to, telling them they don't need consent in a long term relationship might be damaging to both them and their future partners. The idea that once you get married or commit to someone means you consent each time as default can lead to some horrible things.
it's also totally misinterpreted. he felt uncomfortable in the moment and it was more than ok for him to end that encounter. he only reflected positively on it later
Also a lot things are fake for internet points, but is definitely a gray area because she stop right after and he reflected and realize he enjoyed it , so idk
@@og666I think how one feels directly after an encounter shows how they actually felt about it. The positive reflection after can be mixed up with guilt about the rejection of the partner.
I'm surprised asmr didn’t get a mention in this video. There is a lot of asmr that deals with intimacy but they call it “close-up personal attention”. I think the difference is that while there are a noticeable amount of asmr creators who have OF accounts, a lot of these asmr channels have strong female audiences and it is more maternal than P*rnographic. However, for the straight male and gay/bi woman portion of the audience, I can see how this could easily manifest into a fake sense of sexual intimacy, especially when the asmr artist involves kissing sounds and heavy breathing. I bet it’s not uncommon for someone to watch p*rn then once they’ve 💦 head over to their favourite asmr RUclipsr to get that feeling of post-sex intimacy where the lust is dissolved and it’s more gentle and calm.
Close and personal asmr and asmr in general has always been more of a parent-child role from the start.. like they are your carer and u are being cared for.. it's been rly pure and healing for a lot of people but loads of OF creators hijacked the scene and started making sexualised ASMR where they wear skimpy clothing and bend over to show their bodies and title the videos "personal asmr" "asmr for men/men only" etc to target their audience and (this is a tangent) I've been frustrated at it from the start.. they are using a platform that was successfully intimate but non sexual and turned it into a sexual and fetishised scene.. makes ASMR icky because you cant just scroll or search for it without there being a sexual asmr jumpscare and intterrupts/ruins the "inner child healing" sessions a lot of people including myself finally got to have after years of not having a proper outlet
Also to clarofy by "hijacked by OF creators" I dont meam ASMR creators who also happened to make OF content, I meant OF creators who went to ASMR specifically for promotional reasons but "disguise" it
Personal attention ASMR has always felt more friendly or maternal to me. I never really had friends who would put makeup on me or play with my hair and I missed having my hair brushed after my mom stopped doing it for me, so the ASMR is comforting. The videos also helped me figure out what kind of affection I wanted to ask for when I started a relationship with my partner.
I think you're missing some important nuances regarding consent and intimacy. True consent can only be achieved if you trust the other person, and as such they are not opposite or mutually exclusive within intimate relationships. Consent as a concept is especially important in established relationships such as the reddit story because sex is supposed to be something both parties agree to. Waking up your significant other with oral sex shouldn't be a problem if you have previously agreed that it's ok, but the gf did it without even asking (probably thought surprising him was better), but as she found out, he wasn't comfortable with that. It was only after the fact that it happened, it shocked him, and he calmed down, that he realized he would be open to it in the future because he knows that he likes it now, but wouldn't it have been better if the woman asked before she did it? They could have been together for 10 years or 10 days but that was a clear trespassing of his boundaries. It's important to discuss consent even with long term partners such as them, because consent is not something you give once and it stays forever like a license, consent is something that needs to be discussed, and it's there to communicate what you're ok with and what you're not ok with. Some people may get enthusiastic during sex and try sticking things or touching places that the other person may not be ready for, and consent is there to slow down that pace, or even stop it altogether if the person definitely doesn't want a particular placed touched. I don't think modern culture is placing more important in consent than in trust, consent IS part of trust, trusting that your partner will respect your boundaries in bed, and respecting your partners boundaries as well. This is why many people struggle with recognizing that, even though they were in as established relationship, they might have been violated when their partner did something they explicitly said they weren't comfortable with. Because rape exists within established relationships, and consent, among many other things, is also there to help you recognize that. Trust and intimacy in romantic and sexual relationships will never be replaced by just consent alone, consent is part of them, and part of what every healthy relationship should discuss.
I don't understand why it would be ok to sexually assault your partner just because you've been together for a while - if anything it makes it worse, because you trust them and then they go "having sex" with you while you're asleep and don't even know it will happen.
@@ahuman5772 yup, and the example she gave was special because the guy was shocked, but after, he decided he was cool with it, but it would have been a totally different story if he hadn't liked it and felt violated. There's another reddit story i heard in a podcast recently about a woman who had to take some medication that knocked her out for the night, and she found out her long time partner had been doing sexual things to her sleeping body without her consent, basically she was raped. Doing sexual things to someone sleeping just because they've been together, assuming consent, that's wrong. If you want to do it, discuss it, the partner might be into it. But in most cases people do it while the other person is asleep because they cannot consent to anything in the first place, they're asleep ffs, the one doing it knows it's wrong. Not to mention that the guy in kid's story is a man, they can have a harder time accepting that they might have been abused, and they have a social pressure of basically accepting any sexual advances because they're supposed to enjoy it as men. It would be shameful for him to tell anyone, much less other men in his life, that he might have felt violated by his own gf waking him up by giving him a bj, other men would say he's lucky to have such a giving gf, that he should just enjoy it.
i’m glad someone else pointed this out, i was worried i was weird for thinking it was weird how she straight up said it’s sad that “spontaneity” is being lost in sexual intimacy in favor of consent. imo consent can’t exist without trust and vice versa, so i don’t really understand why she’s putting the two against each other
Yup, as someone who was in physical pain for days (and mental for months) after I just went with something I didn't want to bc I didn't wanna "ruin the fun" and all that, I cannot understand where she is coming from. Sure being spontaneous with your partner and all that is important but even then you can ask for consent. Consent can be incorporated into something sexy like saying "u like that?" or "u want some more?" even that is asking for consent. It's not a heartless, robotic question...
Welp an age limit might be coming to TikTok sooner than we think. A month ago I went out to eat with a friend and we sit at the bar. On either side of us was a older man, both of them seem to be in their late 40s or 50s, and both of them were watching tick-tock‘s of young young girls the entire time. Just one young face after the other. Hundreds probably. After that I felt even more sure I don’t want my kids to be on TikTok. At a certain point p*rn adjacent content arrives on a platform…Tumblr comes to mind. What to do? Idk
Your dad, uncle and grandfather is likely doing the same thing. Don't be delulu and think your family is except from the same social rules thatve existed since the birth of humanity. They done a study years ago proving no matter how old men get the age group they were most attracted to were 21 year old women, second pick were 20, third was 19. It didn't matter if they were 30, 40, 80 they were swiping on 21 year old girls the most.
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they COULD, they didn't stop to think about if they SHOULD." - Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic Park sums up my thoughts on this.
I don’t know if I agree with the consent culture taking over the natural, carnal-ness of relationships. I think, in real encounters, consistently asking for positive consent is natural - “do you like that?” - and often can add to intimate communication and is a practice as old as time. Consent does not mean that the relation is collapsed into power dynamics, it’s just a natural part of sex. An even hotter take is that if you feel like asking for consent isn’t natural or comfortable in the moment, you inherently don’t have trust in that relationship to communicate. Tldr consent doesn’t usually manifest itself as Christian Grey handing Anastasia a contract and can often add to intimacy not subtract. While I think that Reddit post is an interesting experience new to our modern day, I think those sorts of moments can be good - to pause and reflect - is this something I liked? Would I like my partner to do it more? How do I communicate to my partner I liked it and was just caught off guard? Instead of passively accepting the crossing of a new boundary, it becomes a moment to discuss what each person likes/dislikes. I saw a tik tok recently about how asking for consent doesn’t have to be rizz-less and I think that’s a funny way to put it but basically in my experience asking for consent isn’t this awkward sit-down power negotiation and is more frequently a quick, in-the-moment securing of what both parties know is about to happen but just a check to make sure that what both people know is happening is, in fact, happening.
I agree. Also, consent culture was something to strive for 20 years ago, and to this day is so common to hear something like "she said no but I know she wanted it" and the lines between consent and rape culture can be very muddy without our focus in consent as a prerequisite.
I agree and tbh I’m always suspicious of people who frame consent in context of s*x, as something tedious. People who are socialized properly and are not predatory have no problem asking and listening to their partner, reading their body language and facial expression, just as we would in any other non-s*xual situation and being able to interpret that and act accordingly. It doesn’t have to be a notarized contract. And the intimacy problem is not the fault of feminists??😭
I'm glad to see this more level take. With the reddit post specifically, some people might get a thrill out of being ambushed, sure, but equally, some might find it a little violating. The GF probably should have asked first, but OP isn't traumatised. Now she knows enough to skip this fumble for her next idea. Looks more like a natural growth moment for the relationship than an indication of some societal rot. It's possible his discomfort is because of matrix brainwashing whatever but it's also possible he was just uncomfortable?
Damn I’m glad I significantly limit my social media usage. I always go outta my way to interact with people in person & keep digital interactions to a minimum (barring phone calls). Sad how the world is becoming more like a cyberpunk dystopia everyday.
People always wanna come with the “iSnt yOUtuBE sOcial MEDIA!!!!” Derp lookin azz. Lol 😂 RUclips is like television minus the addition of shorts. You’re not frickin interacting with ppl or content like on other platforms. What do you look like? I can’t se your face, idk who tf you are, is that your real name?? Foh
I think a lot of ASMR videos are tapping into the same intimacy cravings. This void extends far beyond the sexual but I think in some ways it's easier to conceptualise it through a sexual lens when many of us just want to give and receive kind touch and attention.
I agree with most of the video, but I think as someone who’s had their consent disregarded and subsequently been violated (to put it nicely), I think that any new sexual acts between partners should be discussed beforehand. At least, that’s what I would want out of a relationship. It’s personal, of course, but I absolutely understand where that guy was coming from. It could definitely be shocking and disturbing to wake up to that, no matter how long you’ve known your partner, whether or not you’ve been violated in the past, and especially if you’ve never discussed it before. If you’re touch starved or know in your heart that you like spontaneous and new sex acts performed on you at random, that is great and freeing! But it’s absolutely not everyone. Again, this is coming from the perspective of someone who’s experienced sexual trauma, but I think the whole “enthusiastic yes” version of consent is pretty great. This might ruffle feathers, but I feel like if you can’t ask someone “do you wanna kiss” or “would you like it if I touched you here” because you feel like it’s too awkward or something, maybe you’re not mature enough to be having sex. It should be easy to ask these questions. It’s not unsexy at all, and if you read any smut written by women, it’s actually a turn on.
Yeah honestly I agree, if you're too embarrassed to ask for consent or feel it's "awkward" then you're just not mature enough to have sex. It doesn't necessarily have to be verbal at a certain point (once you and your partner know each other enough) but you definitely can't consent when you're unconscious!
Totally agree with you. It doesn't matter if you're waking up to a one night stand or your married partner of 30 years. You physically cannot consent while asleep. It would be weird if he didn't atleast feel conflicted about it, when he could literally file a police report about it. I really don't get how the creator missed this? It doesn't magically become innocent and cute when you've been with someone for a while, it's still a blatant disregard of someone's free will.
i agree! i didnt really get her point on 'consent culture' i dont think being overly cautious with your partners can ever be a bad thing and didnt understand the way Kid made it seem like its a new obstacle to overcome.
I agree, like spousal r*pe exists and wasn't until recently it's been taken seriously. I wouldn't something spontaneous but if my partner does that w/o my consent I would feel put off by it. Then again for me, I have sexual trauma so if that happened to me I would freak out and have an episode.
Wrong. It's exceptionally unsexy. And it's women who think that. Not a single woman I've dated nor any friend's dates has found it sexy to overtly ask for consent for every move. They say themselves they would get angry because they want a social competent man, not an autistic person who can't read social queues. Overt consent is a feminist subversive trope created to destroy the relationship between men and women. And oh yea, smut women write proves you wrong since they love the trope of the strong dominant assertive man who takes what he wants and throws them up against the wall and just kiss them. Nothing else. A pathetic, insecure weak man who fraily asks if he's allowed to touch her boob is a straight turn off.
I'm genuinely curious, could you elaborate your response a little more? You're saying that you don't feel that you have any value outside of your ability to provide intimacy? Am I understanding correctly?
@@Nihilist_Waltzthat is certainly the way traditionalists want to make it / keep it. The only difference is that they don’t want to allow women to use it outside of their own individual control Edit: I realized “their” is ambiguous. It means “conservatives’ ”
Society has always wanted this of women. The aha moment was realizing that this is customer-service voice. The glazed over, emotionles mask, faking a custom-made interaction with the customer, and the viewer forgetting that you're a human after being desensitized by these actions.
I think there is also something to be said for the amount of people that have experienced sexual abuse? I think that a reason for people getting something out of this intimate content is because it is about control - where the person holding the screen is completely safe but also able to experience pleasure without any chance of being physically hurt or taken advantage of.
At what point is about “reclaiming one’s sexuality” and just profiteering from lust? Would these women really be doing this if it weren’t for the ludicrous amount of money they get?
@@Realcaramelli That’s what I’m talking about, too. It’s just a market for them. That’s why I roll my eyes when they make it about ‘sexual liberation’. When they are comfortable, they kinda let it slip that It’s just business to them.
Good god those NPC videos are so fricking terrifying, its like you took out whatever a person had inside and just were left with an automaton shell that acts on command. Its some uncanny valley level horror
I get that you don't watch much porn, but none of this is new. There has been POV and JOI forever, both of which place the viewer in the scene, either visually or with direct talking to the audience. What's new and selling big here is that it's safe for work content, it's softcore and is a lead in to actual porn. It's nothing new to make a robotic performer repeat salacious acts you pay them for, but doing it on the street in broad daylight legally, now that is a new wrinkle in the plan. I think it's more accurate to call it a marketing trend than anything else.
I think you're missing the point. The fact that sex workers make an effort to rope people into their porn via softcore content on SFW platforms is predatory and disgusting. That's the problem.
Pt? For PC stuff (npc,Asmr,mukbangsext)I say fuck it and try but for of and corn content no that can stuff destroy your life if you don’t make to the top 2% of creators and end making only 100$ a month.
Right? Being your own boss and not even working hard for it (can't be the judge of that of course) is actually dignified, especially if you don't exploit people for it (like paying your employees minimum wage for actually carrying your fucking company)
Pinkydoll isn’t manipulating anyone. People chose to give her money for this stuff. She wouldnt make 7k a day or 12k a day if people werent paying her that amount of money. So if society had all this moral high ground she wouldnt exist in the first place. Shes makes more doing NPC than she does on onlyfans which also speaking volumes. We pay teachers, police officers, nurses and doctors scraps compared to what rappers, athletes and actors make… literal millions!! but are mad at Pinkydoll as if she forced people to give her their money.
I think we are so lonely, like that is the default for many people because we don't know how to have a relationship with ourselves...which makes everything harder, friendships, relationships, and inbetweenships... We need connection, it is hard to blame people for their response to a cruel and lonely world. I think people may not even realize how lonely they are, or are ashamed of it. Why can't we just run up to each other, discover we both have the same favorite color and love ice cream and then decide we are now friends and skip off to go play together in uncomplicated bliss? 💔
Because everyone is a self-absorbed alien who will never understand you, never actually care about you, and just throw you away the moment they get bored of you or feel triggered by something you say or do. Everyone is traumatized nowadays, and traumatized people can't maintain relationships and really can't even start them.
@@thegreatdream8427 I was just trying to say, a lot changes and improves when people take time to self-reflect, journal and work on loving themselves. Once you have a good relationship with yourself, you can form stronger connections with others. If you show yourself empathy 1st, you then can show more empathy to others. Side note... I was traumatized from childhood abuse and neglect from my parental figures, and it is harsh to say that about traumatized people. Trauma doesn't excuse harmful/hurtful behavior...at all and we are responsible to fix ourselves, but we are not doomed to be alone, we just have more work to do lol.
I think loneliness is the fault of nothing other than the lonely person. No one is obligated to give you their time. The lonely person needs to put in the effort and put themselves out there 🤷 Join a club, read books. There's options other than watching fking porn
@@SQUELCH-zj7il Spoken like a true neurotypical who has never suffered from trauma, been abused, gone crazy and lost touch with reality, or had no spare time or money to spend on socialization. "Your suffering is your fault!" is exactly the nonsense that has gotten the world into this mess. And no, I'm not suggesting the SJW alternative "Your suffering is X oppressor group's fault" either. It's *everyone's* fault, and we are all responsible for one another AND for ourselves.
@@cindylu607 So was I. I think what I said is still true. Traumatized people who do not have the resources or support to be able to heal make problems (their own and other people's) worse, not better. And I personally DO feel doomed to be alone. You can only try and fail so many times before wanting to give up.
it's scary to think about how this content will shape the minds of the younger girls and boys... At such an impressionable age this kind of thing can define you. I can see a person kinda "falling in love" and getting obsessed with one of this girls, how does hours of consuming this affect you?
Alright I’ll teach you something special, won’t hold back. NPC is a non playable character, it’s already a thing in video games. Some games are romance novels that you interact with, these can be very deep and complex. The game characters are more popular then most real people, even people using anime avatars are incredibly popular. This is a weak and pale imitation, with a fraction of the real things influence
@@prouddegenerates9056there are such thing as gaming addiction and with that are a lot of downsides weather it be, not being able to connect to your peers properly, not understanding social cues or feeling lost when it comes to intimacy because of unrealistic expectations. To much of anything can become an addiction and if we start having people rely on intimacy or interactions completely based on the internet how do you think interactions will be like in the future. We already see human interaction deteriorating because of the internet but it’s slowly getting worse.
I briefly dated a 25-y-o (I'm 41) who was very inexperienced sexually but watched a lot of animated fetish porn. I would say he was addicted. He told me a lot about his very interesting fetishes upon our first meeting. Now, I've seen a lot of things in life so I pretty much just sat there and took it all in, even though I had never heard of his particular interests and was pretty...confused? I did ask him, though, if he was able to enjoy regular sex, to which he said yes but ultimately, I don't think that was true. When we got to the point of messing around, he had like, an entire script in his mind, a very specific script of which he kept calling audibles, and there was nothing organic or spontaneous about the way our sex sessions unfolded. Now, I didn't mind indulging his fantasies and even watched some of the porn with him but as I got to know him more, I realized that his fantasy life flooded into our entire dynamic meaning, I realized that some of the things he would say to me during normal conversations were really just him furthering the fantasies that he was obsessed with. So, not only was he incapable of participating in an organic sexual experience, he was also seemingly incapable of separating fantasy from reality when it came to an "intimate" connection. Weirdly, even when it came to pleasing me, which he was very eager to do, it seemed as if he wanted me to be into certain things that aligned with HIS fantasies or what porn had suggested women are into. I know this is just anecdotal and perhaps an outlier case of the degree to which young adults are or are not able to engage in true intimacy but I walked away from that connection thinking, damn, this younger generation is damn near disabled when it comes to true intimacy.
@@RepentImmediately I’ve had a girl ask me to do some extensive stalker play, it was a lot. The sheer depravity exceeded anything I’d ever imagine naturally.
but in this world, having more money, is having more power. Because with having more money you could buy more things and time in form of paying people to do things for you.
The term "objectification" has become a joke, because now it's pretty evident that many people never really had a problem with objectification; they had a problem with who was raking in the majority of money from it, and the internet fixed that problem as it has so many others.
@@BaronicqueLangisa-ko1xl Your comment doesn’t make sense regarding what I stated here. The claim is that these people are doing it for reasons that have nothing to do with money.
@@Peb02497yes but there is a difference between doing something/working for money .. and doing it because you like it , want to do it , or are reclaiming something …
No sis, people definitely should consent to sexual activities with each other. Unless "spontaneity" is really worth catching a charge or potentially traumatizing your partner.
The intimacy TikTok girl reminded me of a Sci-if file (from the ‘90’s) called “Strange Days” where experiences are recorded, then played back into people’s heads. This may be sort of synthetic, rather than a real recording, but… In the film, there’s an illicit market in the playbacks for sex, violence, intimacy, crime, voyeurism & clinging onto past relationships, all things currently served on various social media platforms. I don’t think it intended to predict social media trends (there’s a lot going on in this movie) or anything like that, but… …y’know it captures where we’re heading quite well.
That NPC/AI role-playing thing makes me deeply uncomfortable, and it's probably bacause of the dehumanization aspect of it, how it feels like the tame equivalent of a sex doll-just a pretty shell with no will, no autonomy, no thoughts of her own that obeys your every command regardless of how degrading it is as soon as you uttered it, has no objections or preferences of her own, never refuses, never says "no" to you, exists only to serve you, to please you. It's chilling.
Consent culture is very much, and perhaps equally or even more needed in long term relationships. While you have a point about intimacy being missing, "Trust" is often an efficient path towards abuse or one person exploiting another. While it is idyllic to imagine everybody is selfless and altruistic towards their partners, that's not human nature, so boundaries and clear communication is needed to avoid that. What is not needed is guys like the ones who posted the reddit post being confused about their own feelings just because consent culture told them so. There are ways sexy things are sexy, that are about more than just mechanical consent, and people don't get that. At the same time, what if the gf ends up crossing more and more lines, and it gets more and more toxic? He was correct in that his gf broke his boundaries, if those were his boundaries in the first place, but given that nothing physically happened that didn't usually happen, and given that he's undecided about what his boundaries were, he should know enough to communicate that with her and create an agreement. At the same time, she also crossed certain boundaries, that she wouldn't necessarily like to be crossed with her, not just in any relationship. If they're not both clear about how they expect that to be navigated in their relationship going forward, it could mean doom for their relationship. Tldr: The bf's concern wasn't just because of consent culture, it was a real feeling that he had, and in this case, the therapy language actually partially makes sense.
Great video! My thoughts are that it is indeed sad that intimacy is being commodified and monetized, but I don't think "consent culture" is to blame. I don't really see any evidence that the need for consent is dividing otherwise happy, loving couples. The only real evidence of this, that reddit post, clearly states that the only reason OP was uncomfortable at all was because his gf DIDN'T get his consent beforehand and surprised him with sex without giving him the opportunity to say yes or no... Presumably, this made him feel dehumanized and like his autonomy was taken away. Thus, intimacy he otherwise would have enjoyed was made uncomfortable specifically by a lack of consent. Nowhere in that post is there an indication that he got the idea he should feel uncomfortable about a lack of consent from "the culture;" he states the act itself made him FEEL uncomfortable, because it violated his autonomy. I know I would be very upset if my partner did that to me, not because I don't love him and want him to be intimate with me, but because me being in a relationship with him doesn't mean he now owns my body. I'm still my own person, and want to be able to decide when I want to have sex with him. Trust in a relationship is actually based around consent. We don't have to have the "do you enthusiastically consent" talk every time we have sex specifically because I trust him not to do something to me without asking me first. Moreover, consent within long-term partnerships is just as important as in the context of a hookup because marital rape/spousal abuse is sadly way too common. For such a long time under misogynist patriarcha laws/culture in many countries like the US, marital rape wasn't even considered a crime, as it was seen that consent doesn't apply to married couples, who now essentially own each other's bodies--mostly just the man owning the woman's body though. The problem with modern intimacy is not consent culture. It's very clearly capitalism commodifying everything in sight as people seek both greater validation and lavish lifestyles through wealth and just try to survive in increasingly unstable economies.
Wrong. Pure drivel. Consent culture is the problem. Because it negates the need for social competence which bears far worse implications for society than asking your wife of 15 years to touch a boob. Consent culture actively destroys the need for social competence and replaces it entirely. No matter the Mental gymnastics you perform to try to convince yourself of the opposite.
I have zero negative feelings towards pinkydoll. I'm actually impressed with her. She's a social engineering genius. An NPC stream? Who would have thought of that? And look how much money she's making!? Everyone that has negative feelings towards her is either angry that she's making money doing something "anyone can do" but not anyone would think of, or actually angry at the fact that people actually buy into it.
Yeah now you're just using the capitalism argument -.- there's no such thing as envy People critisising PinkyDoll in this day and age gotta chill though, at least PinkyDoll's not hurting anyone
32:56 I was really feeling the video until she got to this point. Why is she invalidating how uncomfortable OP was? Consent is needed all the time in a relationship unless it was already pre-established otherwise, and as OP’s gf had never done that before of course he’s gonna be uncomfortable by it. OP has every right to be uncomfortable, and he also has every right to change his mind and decide that he likes it. Kidology’s take is bad and reinforces the same rhetoric of “you can’t be r worded if you’re married” etc. Consent is ALWAYS needed
It may have caused his body to feel the feeling you get when you have sex but he most likely didn't like the act of being raped as rape is still rape if no consent is given.
Sexual acts on a SLEEPING person is rape, unless possibly if it has been talked about and agreed upon beforehand. But even if consent is given the night prior, to be woken up to sex I mean, it’s still a tricky situation since consent usually needs to given in the moment of sex and also can be taken away at any point if you don’t feel like doing a certain thing or want to stop altogether. If my husband woke me up by fucking raping me I would divorce him, like wtf how can anyone rationalize abuse
33:29 The one man who didnt like his GF giving him a blow job sounds like he is hung up sexually in other ways, maybe religion, socially (women shouldn't initiate) or he could even have sexual trauma. I had a bf who didn't like oral sex because he was abused as a boy. I had another bf have sexual hangups because his dad made him sleep with a prostitute as a teen . Not all men just love sex all the time and sometimes there are valid reasons other then "consent culture is crazy out of control." Consent culture is also about knowing when some is flirting and reading the signs. Pretty sure rape culture ruined intimacy well before consent culture ever could. I got assaulted at work and my boss blamed it on me getting changed into a dress before leaving work. (I was a waitress and I was going to an art show after my shift.) Oh and I had been friendly with him. Because being friendly with a co-worker is an invitation to be groped and assaulted in an elevator. You talk about women being sexualized for everything since they were young, but don't link it to the importance of why its there? Because for so many of us even clearly saying "no" is not enough for some men. Or you can go from consensually flirting to all of a sudden the man thinking its okay to force himself on you because you were nice. I think a healthy man only wants to flirt with someone when its reciprocal? 1/4 women probably need a lot of boundaries and consent due to trauma. Any man who understands this bleak reality doesn't mind. My own husband now will stop and ask consent for some things, and its hella sexy because I can trust him more and it feel super intimate in ways flirting with a strander can never be. Real Intimacy is not "trilling", its comforting.
I thought this comment was really well thought out. I think sexually abused men is underreported and it affects them. We are all interconnected, even when we are alone.
I've been dating my bf for 4 years and he doesn't need to ask for consent at all. I find that concept strange for long term relationships. After a while you'll know your partner and you can judge off body language whether or not they're in the mood or receptive 🤷
Imo consent stops when someone say to stop, in the beginning you need to read the room but if you incorrectly read the room after a no or stop consent also stop but I’m might be wrong
I know that's the case for me, I tend to pull back from men who don't understand or honor that. Which unfortunately is a lot of the ones I encountered, they don't like that I wanna take it at my own pace, I gotta get to know them, etc. even just to hookup. Even after I tell them I have fear around sex and intimacy, so, I just turn to the best next thing which is other sorts of intimacy media. That way I have control and know that I'm safe, bc w/a real man... my chances aren't that high.
I haven't heard many people acknowledge the original NPC reference: video games. Gamers like to romance NPC's, and these women are simply giving a performance. It's everyone else getting entitled over how we survive under capitalism that are making a spectacle of it.
Thank you for producing such genuine, intellectual videos. When you review internet trends, it isn’t “for clout” or an excuse to make fun of people. I really appreciate your nuanced perspectives, and I can tell you have a background in women & gender studies, among other concepts. I always learn something new when I watch your videos, or find myself genuinely questioning my beliefs. It’s content that makes me question my beliefs, rather than reinforce them, that we need more of online.
Nobody forced those ladies to objectify themselves online, but nobody made those simps give up their cash. Who do I point my finger at? This is frustrating.
Subtlety is dying (in the West?) so fast that even your partner, the person you've supposedly chosen as your most trusted, surprising you, with good intentions, has become a cause for concern.
I don’t use TikTok so I also discover it from it commentary creators but it’s weird but not surprising because asmr and mukbang has a sub section with kink content and there’s pov corn ect and much weird kink that I don’t know about or want to watch my eyes with bleach after discovering it.
I gotta say that I don't think that "consent culture" is the true enemy to intimacy in our modern dating world. I get the aspect of the insecurity it creates about flirting and sexuality, but in my eyes it stays relevant even in commited relationships. Even if the guy who woke up to a bj later figures out that he'd actually like for it to happen again, him feeling uncomfortable about it in the moment is just as valid. I have experienced sexualized violence in a longterm relationship, where somebody was overstepping boundaries i had newly put up, despite doing and liking these things earlier in the relationship. Waking up to someone doing something sexual with your unconscious body that you didn't discusss prior can be scary to a lot of people. Consent is a tool, just not the only one we should focus on when creating intimacy.
I have not seen any of this stuff because I am not on TikTok 🤔 Bizzare content is nothing new, but the option to consume the stuff non-stop for all eternity while your physical body ages and withers away... Well that is the challenge faced by young people. The amount of the stuff that you can consume (and are expected to self-moderate yourself from) is extreme and unusual.
Just started and I don't know what creeps me out more. The weird kissing thing at the camera, or someone putting moisturizer on their skin directly from the spout, who does that? Are these aliens trying to pass as humans? Dear lord. Also the NPC girls have clearly never played a videogame in their lives and don't know what an NPC actually is.no NPC in any videogame I've ever played the last 20+ years has acted anything like this.
The "intimacy" trend made me feel so uncomfortable. Perhaps because I am a straight woman, I can't find it appealing. But from the few clips I saw, it felt like a simulation where one is assaulted. It concerns me more because the parasocial relationship perhaps might make it more intimate, but as a stranger it feels violating. I think this trend is blurring the boundaries of intimacy and predatory dynamic of sex.
As a straight man, at first I found it jarring and uncomfortable but I can see the appeal. Especially if I was lonely and craving female intimacy and attention. Reminds me a bit of waifu culture.
1:37 pinkydoll had to be one of the absolute depths of tiktok. she wasn’t on my fyp but i somehow knew of her. saw her on some tiktok award and turns out the filter she uses lightens her skin. sad story when you think about it. beautiful darkskin girl is using a filter to brighten her skin. probably not new but yeah
The content that "effysx" produces is a carbon copy of an indie cornography genre that is meant to replicate initimacy, except minus the simulated sex. Literally everything, from the pov viewpoint, to the asmr talking, to "good boy", cowgirl postioning, "we don't have much time" etc. are cliches of the genre. It isn't that it offers something that corn doesn't (it's actually just a cut down version), but it's that it's as close as you can get on TikTok without being banned. A cut-down version is enough to do a gazillion views.
This is a very nuanced video, thank you for making it. It would be really interesting to elaborate on what you were talking about near the end about control and consent, and the therapy language used.
We're challenged to be happy with ourselves in a low quality self improvement era where no one truly has a heart for deep change or the mind to test their level of contentment. We only pretend not seeing creed or background because we want it our superficial way. If everyone's "way" is now a trend or a new culture then I choose non-conformist through and through. I choose originality. Something about all this tells me technology has made us the experiment by tapping into the social unconscious to see how artificial we are.
It's interesting how Kidology thinks it is tragic that a woman can't have sex with her spouse in their sleep, but “rough” intercourse (which could be something as mundane as spanking) is horrible and unintimate. Her logic is that if she perceives a woman as desiring something, it must be good because women are intrinsically good and incapable of having harmful or wrong desires.
I don't really get the thing against consent in advanced relationships. like maybe it's just me being ace but some time of consent should be upheld. even the dude woken up by his girlfriend he felt uncomfortable at the moment but was open to it later, as in if they talked about it before being surprised like that would be great. also the stories of women in marriages just going along with something bc they're husbands want it, like they were in a committed relationship but that doesn't mean consent is everlasting.
she hasnt been in a relationship in 6 years so i think she forgot how needed just a bit of affirmation is, you cant just randomly start proforming sx acts on someone who didnt know about it, and had the genders been reveresed shed call it sa
Was not even aware this type of content existed... originally when I clicked on the video I wasn't sure if you were referring to ASMRtists who do more platonic intimacy POV videos, like "friend comforts you/does your hair"etc, which I think has been a really positive contribution. Aside to romantic loneliness, there are so many of us who dont have strong support circles, or are neurodivergent, or are seniors, disabled, etc.etc. spending a lot of time at home. These are obviously symptoms of adjecent issues in society. Well anyway I feel like I'm just rambling now. This was really interesting.
This is a very complex thing, but what comes to my mind momentarilly, is the feeling that humans, now, that use social media, contradict their own issues with what they consume without noticing it (maybe), further sementing the issues that afect them for real. What I mean is this: People don't seem to like seeing other humans talking, if they are just being normal humans (without pampering up their looks and/or behaving in an annatural way), while at the same time, complaining about "loneliness" in society. Its... weird. Just what came to my mind by watching this. It was very interesting :) Edit: I can't claim to fully get the thing about sex and sexuality, so I'm probably having a very "off" take about this, but I wanted to share anyways. I will mention the absolute that sexuality and beauty are two different things, as I think this has something to do with it 🙂
Just a little note about loczniki (love them btw) - it's supposed to be prounanced like loh-ch-neekee because in Polish cz is basically like ch in English 🤗 I honestly think that they're doing this stuff for fun, they don't try to sexualise themselves, more like just make content that is funny/interesting to watch
I for the most part agree w this but think it's kinda unfair that most ppl are acting like it isn't mainly women who were supporting Pinky before she went viral within the last few weeks, you can see on her videos and lives that majority of the people who were donating and sending super stickers were WOMEN and had women's names and pfps. It's gross to me that ppl have been saying "gross men are just simping!". Adam Mcintyre covered this along w an article and I think his takes have been the fairest I've seen. I love NPCs mainly loczniki who is my fav and has been doing this for over a year now. She and her bf are very talented cos of their glitching, dancing and NPC movements and that has always been satirical, including the NPC gf bit they do. Pinky's performances from what I've seen also seem satirical to me, the boom who are now getting into it I think pretend to be, but Brittany Venti summed it up well: you can't unironically suck D. Those newer girls who are dressed in lingerie, squirting lotion all over their faces, answering sxual questions like "is it pink?" (which is linked to tt pdophilia) btw and bending over, making gagging noises, using eggplants as a prop are not in the same vein as Pinky imo. It's anecdotal but all the gen z girls I've spoken to abt Pinky have agreed w me that she reminds us of those games we'd play when we were little where we'd give them stuff, dress them up, brush their hair, feed them, do their make up, shake the screen to make them sick, tell them jokes, etc They were just as fun as they are repetitive. but most of us think it's silly, cringey and goofy. I'm certain if someone checked Pinky's tt following for the ratio of female and male followership they're mostly girls, especially BEFORE this recent blow up. Most of the comments from those who are interacting now are cringe watching, but before this it was always silly watching and are making that known. Even when she has broken character bcos of her son you can clearly see WOMEN telling her "it's okay queen go deal w your son 💓" and "NOT THE DOG💀" A very small percentage of people are sxualizing it, esp the non-sxual ones where she's just talking to the camera in the kitchen popping popcorn, but that can be said about anything on the internet, even this video essay. Also Ik alot of the girls who hopped onto this trend are OF girls and I personally think Pinky was being genuine when she was thanking her audience. She has been able to dramatically change her and her son's life bcos of the money she's been making doing NPC streams and as someone who is anti-pxrn and anti-sxwork I'd rather she and others get a bag by being fully clothes than feeling the need to do pxrn and survival sxwork. I've seen alot of ppl crapping on gen z for this when we literally find it funny and most of our humour is edgy and satirical but it's like sis we weren't the ones who genuinely made ppl like belle delpine and her bathwater pop off so maybe take a look at yourselves before you try to come for us. 💀💀
Thanks for your insight! I purposefully stay away from TT as I know how addictive it is & constantly hear about all the crazes (tik tok trends!). Hence why I don’t feel need to have an account. But yeah remember back when those 2 Americans were famous for doing stupid shit? Gosh their name is failing atm, but one of them became an actor. But like they would be super daring & it was popular! And they got hurt, I think often, but became very famous from it. I didn’t personally find that stuff entertaining, just like these current NPC trends. BUT on the whole I think it’s just humans needing to be stimulated & using other similar humans to do so. I myself don’t know what kind of audience pinkydoll has had, but I believe that it was women that was her biggest supporters, probably making her ‘famous’ generating more men to like/pay her. Women empowering other women I guess, men tapping into it. 🤷♀️ Also I wholeheartedly agree with about being against the porn & sex work industries, I’ve shifted my view over time & changed from pro-porn & pro-sex work to against it. It is better pinkydoll and the like is using OTHER means then nudity to generate income & notoriety, so it might fall under ‘entertainer’, ‘comedian’, or ‘TV personality’ . Being attractive & interesting without being an em rata type of influencer. ❤
It’s kink stuff just like furries just because a section like to watch just because doesn’t mean nothing , also that girl has an of and was crying about people sharing it for free 🤦♂️ 😂 That some f weird group of gen Z😂
I disagree with the part about the reddit guy. Just because you know someone's body and have been intimate with in the past doesn't mean that you are allowed to cross boundaries and let's not forget that SA can happen even in a relationship. In that guy's case it was bothering him enough that he took it to reddit to ask for opinion. He felt violated and it sounds to me that he tried to convince himself that he liked it to regain control, obviously I don't know him but the fact that is he felt she crossed a boundary and I am glad that "therapy" words exist so people can put words on their experience. To me that guy was SA, if the situation was reversed no one would even question it.
As someone who was repeatedly SA'd by a partner and made to feel like SA wasn't possible in a relationship... some of your rhetoric towards intimacy and consent in a relationship is a little concerning. It's really dangerous to encourage the narrative that long-term relationships equal consent, when so many cases of SA happen in such relationships. Victims are often made to feel like their feelings aren't valid or that their experiences aren't real simply because consent has been established with that person previously. SA is possible both in new and familiar sexual experiences in a relationship whether you have been together a few weeks, months or years.
I completely agree with you as a fellow victims some of her points were triggering and concerning. I have been SA'ed by someone I was in a relationship with and that doesn't erase my trauma just because she was my partner.
I think it's 85% capitalism. This is actual value as a concept being broken down and compartmentalized. It's not unsimilar to pure dopamine-roll games where you spin a wheel and win worthless points and virtual knick-knacks for free only your payment is watching an ad between spins. Are these ads actually selling products? Probably not. But the ads themselves make money for the developer and the consumer is so far removed from the advertiser that the chain of cash is not interrupted my silly things like efficacy of marketing strategies. The advertisers are paying for space in your brain or are other games being advertised in an endless loop creating a financial bubble. The economy today is like chocolate milk where the kid is blowing bubbles into it so ferociously that the liquid is basically foam and destroyed. Money has lost all connection to objective value and that is very well represented in NPC content as well. We pay for simulacras, our stomach is full of leather. No nutrition there just a feeling of fullness. This spirals as we starv, and have less energy to fight for actual food for the soul.
That creepy fourth wall sex simulator is a raunchy version of The Continental is an American television series that aired on CBS in 1952. It starred Renzo Cesana in the title role. The 15-minute program was aimed at housewife at the end of the night's prime time schedule. I remember seeing bits of it, and it was hilarious. Some suave guy addresses a fourth wall which is YOU, and a gloved, female arm reaches out to caressed and kissed and “seduced”. You can probably find it on RUclips
I don’t agree with the problem of lack of intimacy coming from «consent culture». I don’t see how consent gets in the way of building natural intimacy, as it is simply a means of respecting the other person and making sure they are confortable. In the example you showed, the young man’s question was totally reasonable, I don’t think it’s normal to perform a sexual act on someone while they sleep (without having talked about it before), and i don’t see how them being in a relationship changes anything.
I agree with most of what you said. It's interesting how you watch this stuff for hours. I don't consume TikTok usually because I'm too old and I'm quite happy about it. But I have to criticise the note about consent culture. I hadn't heard that expression before and I was really glad to hear it because I think there must be alternatives to the things we're doing wrong. Like love to hate, like communism to capitalism, there's now consent culture as a movement away from rape culture. Two things: 1. Rape culture is still predominant. You literally showed it in the video with the reddit posts about violent sex, but also the whole NPC and intimacy thing is part of rape culture, because, like you said, it triggered this whole thing in the first place - young girls are being sexualised against their will, and are now trying to control it - to turn it into consent culture. I don't know if it's right what they're doing. I can and will not presume anything about these actors. 2. Consent culture is not ruining anything. 32:00 This literally happened to me. I've been in a romantic and sexual relationship for a few years and sometimes, my partner still does things that I don't want just like I do things that they don't want. Maybe we don't know each other inside out. Maybe we're still into different things, even after three years. Why would you assume otherwise of people you don't know, especially if they're voicing their discomfort? Overstepping a boundary is still hurtful, even if your experience is a good one in the end. All in all, good video and very interesting take, I liked it and will be coming back, thank you
Wow, so when I was over seas in Asia they had gf/bf bars where you'd go to get actual one on one company. If you had a regular you'd become quite familiar with eachother and I thought that it was odd but this takes the cake. If gf bars were questionable this is just exploitative. Would love to see your take on findom next
@Julia-oe9xl financial domineering or dominance. Men = pay pigs and women are the mistress. It's seudosexual and mostly humiliation and leaching men pay women to insult them. Sigh I hate this world
I think the most scary and dehumanizing npc-trend I've come across so far is the compilations with recorded people with psychosis either from drugs or even just schizophrenic people sitting on the subway talking to themselves but with the elden ring, or whatever it is, music in the background to make us really see them as non humans, non important and just a buggy side show. Not a human being in despair and in need of love and help. I pray to God that so don't become psychotic outside of my apartment now a days.
So much confusion and hypocrisy over OF and NPC Tik Tok (which I'd never heard of before this). Would love to hear Kidology talk about The Home Depot Girl and how these conflicts, confusion and hypocrisy play out.
When an attractive woman has OF: men have a hissy fit When a attractive woman works a regular 9-5 and doesn't make content: Men throw a hissy fit and stalk her until she's pressured to do an OF. The issue here is that men want to use women for their own selfish deviancy and for FREE. They hate seeing these women successful, but gladly will view the content of it wasn't behind a Paywall
@@SQUELCH-zj7il The hypocrisy is galling. It's all about control for men. She was doxxed and had to leave her job and move house. Disgraceful. It was a "hip hop newspaper", the Daily Loud which had a poll on whether she should start an OF page. Lord have mercy.
I don’t know about this Home Depot girl situation but you need to understand that’s different sub section of men in that esfere ,the “simps” and fake “real” men that like to talk/comment and act superior and against women and sometimes faking because hate sells on the internet or being hypocritics
Your videos are next level. I am t e r m i n a l l y online and you’re going DEEP into rabbit holes I’ve never ever even heard a HINT of. Ever. And you don’t just lightly graze the surface of these topics. You go in. Really great channel and probably one of my best new subscriptions in years. ❤
Apart from drawing on the fetishisation of video game and anime media characters, I think a core reason for the popularity of NPC tok is the agency it provides to the viewer, which is beyond that which they experience viewing media or playing video games. Intimacy is being replaced by agency. Intimacy is at its core an emotional mutual relating between people. In our digital and commodified world, agency and ego are constantly being reinforced and most narratives about satisfaction with life or improving your life, what makes a good relationship etc, are rooted in individuality and self-determination.
8:28 That's where I am on this. I find all this "moralsplaing" to be arrogant, presumptuous. Where do these 'virtuous' people get off telling other people what should be degrading to them? They don't know them. They think they're making a point, but instead, they sound like condescending jerks.
My evening FYP is inundated with NPC cosplay! It is like every two scrolls is a NPC tiktok live. I saw my first male Thug NPC like 2 nights ago...now that was hilarious.
I was wondering if a male version of this exist. Sure a handsome ripped guy could make money of this, like those kpop guys or handsome celebrities. I guess self-degradation is just not a first choice for men like it is women. 🤷♀️💀
@@FrozenAfricaPrincess There are guys, but most I see seem to make it a caricature. I saw one guy who was muscular with his shirt off doing it but...meh. It seems like at this point everyone doing it is making it a money grab.
The consent thing and that young lad and the BJ...If a female wrote 'I woke up to my male partner sodomising me without my consent...' would the discourse be different? Consensual Non-Consent...I'm writing a piece about that. Found some interesting research about that. It's very common. What is happening to humans? This is really sad. Shows how disconnected we have become. Online life is not helping physical society.
That’s got to be one of the most off putting starts to a video I’ve ever seen.
Seriously! Never turned down the volume on a video so fast
I really feel harmed by that opening. Like I feel entitled to compensation of some sort
@@mauve9266So do I. Maybe we can start a Class Action 😅😅😅😅
But the end!
Visual assault should be a federal crime 😭😭
To be honest, I'm not really surprised. With people getting lonelier by the year, the social climate we have today, and people glued to social media more, no wonder that these kinds of TikTok blew up.
What I don't understand, is why don't lonely people get together and solve each other's problems?
Some people say that they're very lonely but will also avoid socialization like the plague. I guess social anxiety may be the root of the problem?
@@leehalloway8787 With many people being much more rude/tempermental ever since the lockd9wns, its no wonder that many gave up on physical socialization
@@leehalloway8787if it were that easy there wouldn't be loneliness in the first place
@@leehalloway8787lonely people are normally bad as socializing and get into a self fulfilling loop when interactions go bad.
Not only that lonely women and lonely men are completely different beasts. Lonely men normally have no one lonely women normally don't have the person they want.
@@genocidehero9687the only way to get better is to get out there and DO IT godamn yall quit feeling sorry for yourselves.
This is the evolution of women being really good at customer service. I say 'what can I get fer ya?' and play nice every day at work all day. 'anything I can get ya or ya just looking?' 'lemmie know if you have any questions!' and I have stupid knowledge about every item and memory or items long gone.....at work I am an NPC. I have some special customers I break character for and actually joke and talk to. So it's not all bad.
Isnt that literally their job in costumer service? Like you understand that these people have to be nice to sell shit, its not genuine its just a show but that my friend is a tale as old as time (or as capitalism to be precisly)
I’m not sure that it’s just “being nice to sell shit” though. It’s having “catch phrases,” or repeated expressions, all day long to the point where you can’t even recall a single thing you’ve said at the end of the day because you have not been in your own head. I think it’s more than just selling shit, and I think OP has a good point as I have known other woman to experience this, especially in all-women retail spaces
@@lanam6459 it's rarely talked about how GOOD women really are. I work in an all male environment but I'm stuck with 90% of the customers because I fake nice better than them. They have a fit after 1 customer. Not like I enjoy it but I just pretend. It's my job can switch my brain off to make money. Jobs are all draining in some way.....I think switching off and being a catchphrase person saves the real me. So she can go home and draw and be creative. Nobody even knows she's there.
@@Laura-gd4ku yeah it’s definitely the job, I got the impression OP’s point was that customer service jobs are really not that different from the NPC stuff that this video is about
Apart from sometimes saying hello or do you need help most customers service are very hands off in my country and non of the overly fake us thing
People shaming Pinkydoll despite the fact she was working as a cleaner and a stripper but now she sits in front of a phone reacting to emotes but somehow that is worse. I am not pro-sex work but being a tiktoker, even if it is npc, is safer than being a stripper and cleaning strangers houses. It seems like those tweets care more about surface level dignity than the fact that if pinky kept working as a stripper/maid she would be subjected to more risks of sexual harassment and sexual assault.
can i ask why you arent pro sex work? seeing your thoughts on pinky i genuinely want to know ur thoughts on sex work
It's worse it involves many people.
@@Verårtu...that have the option of swiping away and watching something else if they don't want to watch someone emote. The cringe is NOTHING compared to the actual risks of her getting assaulted like the original comment mentioned
@@lotsofuwuenergy3983 my point is no one care of one's individual struggle, they "care" more if it involves many human
Honestly I don't like her for trying to get ppl more interested in her of by claiming she is 19 once even releasing pictures of herself as an obvious adult claiming she was 15 in it
These attempts at filling intimacy voids are like something from a dystopian film.
I've seen everything from VR porn, to GF and BF comfort ASMR roleplay. It started with porn, and has now creeped into other areas of intimacy that sex can no longer work as a bandaid for when people are feeling lonely. It's more than wanting a shot of dopamine now, it's trying to fill a black hole. AI is facing a brunt of this too, both being abused by psychopaths and/or filling in these intimacy roles for lonely people. This can even be seen in memes (I know), that say things like "I don't want s*x anymore, I want my head patted, or to be told I'm doing good" Comfort, emotional bonds, validation and praise.
I think this started a lot earlier than most realise, too. I certainly remember people role-playing through WoW, taking it way more seriously than a light hearted dose of escapism on game night
Yes, it's called the intimacy crisis which is related to the meaning crisis. There's a cognitive science professor who is working on it. He might be the most important person of our time.
@lkae4 lol working on it... I don't think you understand how deep we are into there's no fixing this 😂it's over its done, accept it and enjoy the last bit of time we have on this planet before our species becomes extinct
@@lkae4and his name is?...
@@user-hc2tu7ul7jno one should bring up gerard butler films just generally
@@user-hc2tu7ul7jinteresting! Gotta check that movie out! Thank you :-)
This trend really strikes a nerve with me. I don't have the words to describe it, but it makes me so uncomfortable.
Creepy AF.
Facts
@@rejectionisprotection4448 What if we automate the entire thing and instead of humans mimicing AI we can just make a gpt powered chatbot that also livestreams a human model that looks highly realistic doing said things instead. (You will be able to find a very similar product nowadays if you dive deep enough into the rabbit hole).
It's because women are acting like sex robots and it's disturbing. I don't blame the girls for doing this, I just hate how men take pleasure in it, it's gross. Just like how I don't blame female pornstars who enjoy really rough bdsm, I just hate that male audiences love watching them. It's turning women into non human objects of sex and desire
Because it’s actually mimicking children and caters to pedophilia
The commodifying of intimacy, even the NPC thing, is the absolutely most pathetic, sad and disturbing phenomenon I’ve ever witnessed. I don’t know whether to cry or puke.
Why not both?
maybe shit your pants???
🥵🥵🥵😅🤣🥰😍🏌️♂️😁😁😁😁🤬🙄😔😠😯🙁😠😠🥱🥱🥱😕😕😕😕😕👻🤯🤢👻💌💌🙁🙁🥶🙁🙉🙉🌞✨😺😾✨💨😿💨🙊🖤💨💨💨💟♥️♥️🗣️🧠💀💀🦶🦶🦶
cry.
it's very dystopian to me
there are moments where I don't want to have sex. there are sexual things I do not want to do. assuming I will like a sexual act because we're in a relationship and just doing something sexual to me without asking for my CONSENT is TRAUMATIZING and ABUSIVE!!
Exactly! Couldn't be better said
Yeah, 100% true I got to that part of the vid and I really can't get behind what she's saying, it almost feels like stepping back in time when marital rape wasn't illegal. Just because you love and have known someone for years does not give them the right to do whatever they want with ur body
As a cosplayer myself I have been asked to make this kind of content. And it's very scary bc fans are expectant of me to behave a certain way and people are often to shocked to hear me speak or behave in ways that do not fix the box of a "cutesy UwU perfect e-girl". Self objectification does not work. And in fact it's even more dehumanizing when you accept it and try to make it your brand. Sure it's easy to make the bag and benefit from people's fetishes and loneliness however it juices out all your humanity. I feel like an imposter most times because I have to be someone I'm not. It also makes it impossible to date, make friends etc. In reality most of these women are just as isolated , depressed and lonely as their fanbases/clientele.
And I think that has a lot to do with " pretty " women just being nothing more than just a commodity. I can't tell you how many "egirls" I know who also feel the same way.
So true!!
But if you do only the pc stuff you have all the upside without the negatives of doing OF and corn and you might make that bag, because doing corn and OF can destroy your life if you don’t become the top 2% of creators.
@@weird-guy Ikrrr! I have a frens who've tried of and have failed miserably. Personally bc I know NPC stuff is a HUGE fetish and it would appeal to alot of the demographic I want to be far away from is why I personally wouldn't do it. I definitely see the appeal though. It's an easy way to make bank.
as a guy i can relate. there is many people of both genders who just use the other side as a commodity, sometimes both using each other. i hope people who love deeply can find each other
I’m an Artists and I relate a lot to the “Everyone expecting you to be a certain way but it doesn’t fit with you anymore” I made my art account when I was a kid and I do a lot of fanart mainly because I love the shows I’m drawing and for me it’s like a personal love letter to them. It’s also stupidly popular. Any kind of content creation that’s in a nerd space is a big double edge sword. There’s been a lot of times where I’ve wanted to make art of ocs, or just my own shit but I never do it partially because I know no one with care.
So I’m in the process of I guess doing a rebrand, In an attempt to be more authentically myself because the account and art I made as a kid just isn’t me anymore. Maybe u can try something like that? Or just slowly branch out and do more content u want/being more authentic over time. I won’t lie to you it will isolate a part of ur audience but it might be a part of ur audience u don’t really want to associate with anyway and the people who r genuine fans always stick around. If you care a lot about the art you do or cosplaying and want to branch out you should just do it because it will honestly just be more enjoyable and not make u want to rip ur eyes out trying to please some fucking algorithm that was made by a bug eyed freak in silicone vally!!!!!!
As a former cam girl, I can confidently say that NPC streaming is just being a SFW cam girl
I was a PSO bf camming became a thing and I see so many things ppl think is benign or creepy but otherwise NSFW and I'm like no, that is just kink
It’s so hard to watch parents going live while their kids need their care and presence 😩
but parents also go to offices , go door to door distributing newspaper , go to clean washrooms and all kinds of jobs leaving their kids . Parents also do zoom calls with boss from home. Not sure how that is different. Is it because she is acting a role here ?
@@Valkyri3Zits because its obviously sexualized
@@Julia-oe9xl well that I agree but she says she is winning
@@Valkyri3Z i know, how is that relevant?
@@Julia-oe9xl the main comment was about kids needing care and presence. Normal working parents also remain absent. That's my point
Sex workers eventually get deplatformed or censored on most social media apps. Pinkydoll and the of NPC streamers pioneered this type of live streaming to promote their adult services. They have to find new ways to continue to promote their work. This type of of livestreaming is a side hussle not their main source of revenue. Evryone else saw that is is a good way to make money and jumped on the bandwagon. NPC characters or AI impersonation is a fetsish amongst some circles. Its just finally reached the mainstream.
Exactly. That’s why I was confused at the amount of people who were shocked. I thought they were just faking or over-exaggerating their disgust for content. But I guess most people really didn’t know about this market. It just goes to show that I’m very desensitized to the peculiarities of social media. 😂
Idk why I didn't consider that this is a ftish, but ofcourse it is.
Good point, but that just means that this fetish is going mainstream for a reason...
Yes and while deplatforming sex workers the plattforms know very well that the more sublte sexual content makes a huge profit
what if instead of AI photo generation capabilities we get AI video generation capabilities, I think we are not that far away. Combine that with unblocked gpt systems, we can create an AI that reacts to human input and shows images that matches the desires of people, if someone shall be able to keep such technology memory intensive and large, they can sell the services of the AI at a high price and make billions instead of millions like these live streamers.
The technology behind chat gpt was there. Checkout when AI dungeon was created, it was done 5 years ago.
it's disturbing that people would be turned on by someone pretending to be non-human, pretending to not have thoughts or feelings or human rights. it's like they don't want to think of the people they are sexually attracted to as PEOPLE, they don't want to see the humanity in them. that's terrifying.
I remember reading about a man who took out the vagina from his sex doll and carried it around with him like a comfort blanket.
Now THAT'S objectification.
Sex doll say hello😂😂
My first crush was a cartoon character. But I was like 4 so…
@@rejectionisprotection4448 ewwww Jesus he sounds like a ritualist in the making..🤮
EXACTLY
When you mentioned that men would sexualise you regardless, it reminded me of that time I posted a mirror selfie of myself at WORK in winter (I was in a brown crew neck) and a guy replied saying he can imagine how great I’d look with nipple piercings 😫
Mind you, I live in a very conservative country so my clothes weren’t showing anything AND I always am pretty covered up. I would say my boobs are “average-big” so I don’t even get it.
This made me so uncomfortable I deleted the post and deleted his DM without ever opening it (I didn’t want to give him the satisfaction of knowing I even saw his message). It might sound simple but it actually scarred me. Imagine if I was one of those ig hotties, the harassment would be too much.
Hey , I'm an artist who works really hard at their craft . I realized no matter how hard I worked or how talented I was at the end of the day my male peers will sexualize me or befriend me just to have a chance to smash. Its sad and something I struggle with
@@starcloud8411maybe your art is shit and your looks are above average. Then ofc that's what will draw most attention. You don't have a right to control what kind of attention you get.
Consent in a relationship is important regardless of how long you've been with the partner. You can know your partner inside out, it still doesn't give you the right to decide for them whether if they are in the mood or not. Especially when they are not concious (sleeping). There are ways of waking your significant other up in a sexually sugestive way without starting a sex act while they can't conciously say if they're ok or not ok with it.
This section of the video is the only part I found problematic. I understand where she's coming from, but I think the example was bad. A better example would have been to have to ask for consent to kiss your partner, or hug them (if they have no trauma related to this). The rest of the video was interesting!
@@effmltalks Depends what the aim of the video is. If it's to get through to people who enjoy the NPC trend due to having "actors" react how they want them to, telling them they don't need consent in a long term relationship might be damaging to both them and their future partners. The idea that once you get married or commit to someone means you consent each time as default can lead to some horrible things.
it's also totally misinterpreted. he felt uncomfortable in the moment and it was more than ok for him to end that encounter. he only reflected positively on it later
Also a lot things are fake for internet points, but is definitely a gray area because she stop right after and he reflected and realize he enjoyed it , so idk
@@og666I think how one feels directly after an encounter shows how they actually felt about it. The positive reflection after can be mixed up with guilt about the rejection of the partner.
That was a painful first 30 seconds
Edit: There was a lot more pain to be had after that
Right?!
😶😑
Thanks for that, I'm glad I stopped there.
😂😂😂😂😂
You came back to warn us, thanks 😅
I'm surprised asmr didn’t get a mention in this video. There is a lot of asmr that deals with intimacy but they call it “close-up personal attention”. I think the difference is that while there are a noticeable amount of asmr creators who have OF accounts, a lot of these asmr channels have strong female audiences and it is more maternal than P*rnographic. However, for the straight male and gay/bi woman portion of the audience, I can see how this could easily manifest into a fake sense of sexual intimacy, especially when the asmr artist involves kissing sounds and heavy breathing. I bet it’s not uncommon for someone to watch p*rn then once they’ve 💦 head over to their favourite asmr RUclipsr to get that feeling of post-sex intimacy where the lust is dissolved and it’s more gentle and calm.
Because men only seem to be able to live out their need for intimacy in a sexual way
THISSSS
Close and personal asmr and asmr in general has always been more of a parent-child role from the start.. like they are your carer and u are being cared for.. it's been rly pure and healing for a lot of people but loads of OF creators hijacked the scene and started making sexualised ASMR where they wear skimpy clothing and bend over to show their bodies and title the videos "personal asmr" "asmr for men/men only" etc to target their audience and (this is a tangent) I've been frustrated at it from the start.. they are using a platform that was successfully intimate but non sexual and turned it into a sexual and fetishised scene.. makes ASMR icky because you cant just scroll or search for it without there being a sexual asmr jumpscare and intterrupts/ruins the "inner child healing" sessions a lot of people including myself finally got to have after years of not having a proper outlet
Also to clarofy by "hijacked by OF creators" I dont meam ASMR creators who also happened to make OF content, I meant OF creators who went to ASMR specifically for promotional reasons but "disguise" it
Personal attention ASMR has always felt more friendly or maternal to me. I never really had friends who would put makeup on me or play with my hair and I missed having my hair brushed after my mom stopped doing it for me, so the ASMR is comforting. The videos also helped me figure out what kind of affection I wanted to ask for when I started a relationship with my partner.
pinkydoll’s content has gotta be the tamest form of sex work out there, and yet the outrage over it is this severe
There’s probably a breathing kink and people will still complain 😂
@weird-guy Dawg, there's a kink to everything these days. Breathing is not a "probably" it's a definitely.
How is it sex work?
I think the reason is that it is new trend, new niche.
@@6lack5ushi could be considered as such since it seems like the only people who watch that kind of content are people who have a fetish for it
I think you're missing some important nuances regarding consent and intimacy. True consent can only be achieved if you trust the other person, and as such they are not opposite or mutually exclusive within intimate relationships. Consent as a concept is especially important in established relationships such as the reddit story because sex is supposed to be something both parties agree to. Waking up your significant other with oral sex shouldn't be a problem if you have previously agreed that it's ok, but the gf did it without even asking (probably thought surprising him was better), but as she found out, he wasn't comfortable with that. It was only after the fact that it happened, it shocked him, and he calmed down, that he realized he would be open to it in the future because he knows that he likes it now, but wouldn't it have been better if the woman asked before she did it? They could have been together for 10 years or 10 days but that was a clear trespassing of his boundaries. It's important to discuss consent even with long term partners such as them, because consent is not something you give once and it stays forever like a license, consent is something that needs to be discussed, and it's there to communicate what you're ok with and what you're not ok with. Some people may get enthusiastic during sex and try sticking things or touching places that the other person may not be ready for, and consent is there to slow down that pace, or even stop it altogether if the person definitely doesn't want a particular placed touched. I don't think modern culture is placing more important in consent than in trust, consent IS part of trust, trusting that your partner will respect your boundaries in bed, and respecting your partners boundaries as well. This is why many people struggle with recognizing that, even though they were in as established relationship, they might have been violated when their partner did something they explicitly said they weren't comfortable with. Because rape exists within established relationships, and consent, among many other things, is also there to help you recognize that. Trust and intimacy in romantic and sexual relationships will never be replaced by just consent alone, consent is part of them, and part of what every healthy relationship should discuss.
Yes! Thank-you. It's not okay to do whatever you like to your partner just bc they trust you! I found her take on that to be mind blowingly wrong.
I don't understand why it would be ok to sexually assault your partner just because you've been together for a while - if anything it makes it worse, because you trust them and then they go "having sex" with you while you're asleep and don't even know it will happen.
@@ahuman5772 yup, and the example she gave was special because the guy was shocked, but after, he decided he was cool with it, but it would have been a totally different story if he hadn't liked it and felt violated. There's another reddit story i heard in a podcast recently about a woman who had to take some medication that knocked her out for the night, and she found out her long time partner had been doing sexual things to her sleeping body without her consent, basically she was raped. Doing sexual things to someone sleeping just because they've been together, assuming consent, that's wrong. If you want to do it, discuss it, the partner might be into it. But in most cases people do it while the other person is asleep because they cannot consent to anything in the first place, they're asleep ffs, the one doing it knows it's wrong. Not to mention that the guy in kid's story is a man, they can have a harder time accepting that they might have been abused, and they have a social pressure of basically accepting any sexual advances because they're supposed to enjoy it as men. It would be shameful for him to tell anyone, much less other men in his life, that he might have felt violated by his own gf waking him up by giving him a bj, other men would say he's lucky to have such a giving gf, that he should just enjoy it.
i’m glad someone else pointed this out, i was worried i was weird for thinking it was weird how she straight up said it’s sad that “spontaneity” is being lost in sexual intimacy in favor of consent. imo consent can’t exist without trust and vice versa, so i don’t really understand why she’s putting the two against each other
Yup, as someone who was in physical pain for days (and mental for months) after I just went with something I didn't want to bc I didn't wanna "ruin the fun" and all that, I cannot understand where she is coming from. Sure being spontaneous with your partner and all that is important but even then you can ask for consent. Consent can be incorporated into something sexy like saying "u like that?" or "u want some more?" even that is asking for consent. It's not a heartless, robotic question...
Welp an age limit might be coming to TikTok sooner than we think.
A month ago I went out to eat with a friend and we sit at the bar. On either side of us was a older man, both of them seem to be in their late 40s or 50s, and both of them were watching tick-tock‘s of young young girls the entire time. Just one young face after the other. Hundreds probably. After that I felt even more sure I don’t want my kids to be on TikTok.
At a certain point p*rn adjacent content arrives on a platform…Tumblr comes to mind. What to do? Idk
promote and accelerate it until the world burns and starts anew
Your dad, uncle and grandfather is likely doing the same thing. Don't be delulu and think your family is except from the same social rules thatve existed since the birth of humanity.
They done a study years ago proving no matter how old men get the age group they were most attracted to were 21 year old women, second pick were 20, third was 19. It didn't matter if they were 30, 40, 80 they were swiping on 21 year old girls the most.
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they COULD, they didn't stop to think about if they SHOULD." - Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic Park sums up my thoughts on this.
It’s a reference to Frankenstein. The novel. After he made his 8 foot tall ManSter
I feel my brain cells melting just from the videos included here. They are terrifying.
Literally
What surprises me is that they're are not even good imitating the NPC
I don’t know if I agree with the consent culture taking over the natural, carnal-ness of relationships. I think, in real encounters, consistently asking for positive consent is natural - “do you like that?” - and often can add to intimate communication and is a practice as old as time. Consent does not mean that the relation is collapsed into power dynamics, it’s just a natural part of sex. An even hotter take is that if you feel like asking for consent isn’t natural or comfortable in the moment, you inherently don’t have trust in that relationship to communicate. Tldr consent doesn’t usually manifest itself as Christian Grey handing Anastasia a contract and can often add to intimacy not subtract.
While I think that Reddit post is an interesting experience new to our modern day, I think those sorts of moments can be good - to pause and reflect - is this something I liked? Would I like my partner to do it more? How do I communicate to my partner I liked it and was just caught off guard? Instead of passively accepting the crossing of a new boundary, it becomes a moment to discuss what each person likes/dislikes.
I saw a tik tok recently about how asking for consent doesn’t have to be rizz-less and I think that’s a funny way to put it but basically in my experience asking for consent isn’t this awkward sit-down power negotiation and is more frequently a quick, in-the-moment securing of what both parties know is about to happen but just a check to make sure that what both people know is happening is, in fact, happening.
I agree. Also, consent culture was something to strive for 20 years ago, and to this day is so common to hear something like "she said no but I know she wanted it" and the lines between consent and rape culture can be very muddy without our focus in consent as a prerequisite.
Imo is simple if someone says no or stop that’s when “consent” stop, or I’m wrong?
I agree and tbh I’m always suspicious of people who frame consent in context of s*x, as something tedious. People who are socialized properly and are not predatory have no problem asking and listening to their partner, reading their body language and facial expression, just as we would in any other non-s*xual situation and being able to interpret that and act accordingly. It doesn’t have to be a notarized contract. And the intimacy problem is not the fault of feminists??😭
agreed, trust and consent go hand-in-hand
I'm glad to see this more level take. With the reddit post specifically, some people might get a thrill out of being ambushed, sure, but equally, some might find it a little violating. The GF probably should have asked first, but OP isn't traumatised. Now she knows enough to skip this fumble for her next idea. Looks more like a natural growth moment for the relationship than an indication of some societal rot. It's possible his discomfort is because of matrix brainwashing whatever but it's also possible he was just uncomfortable?
Damn I’m glad I significantly limit my social media usage. I always go outta my way to interact with people in person & keep digital interactions to a minimum (barring phone calls). Sad how the world is becoming more like a cyberpunk dystopia everyday.
Doesn't yt count as social media?? Also how do u limit your usage as I'm looking to do the same?
Honestly, I'm kinda looking forward to the cyberpunk dystopia.
On the other hand its conforting there is a lot of people who think this is crazy
Right and nothing we can do to change it , those of us who prefer natural reality.
People always wanna come with the “iSnt yOUtuBE sOcial MEDIA!!!!” Derp lookin azz. Lol 😂 RUclips is like television minus the addition of shorts. You’re not frickin interacting with ppl or content like on other platforms. What do you look like? I can’t se your face, idk who tf you are, is that your real name?? Foh
I think a lot of ASMR videos are tapping into the same intimacy cravings. This void extends far beyond the sexual but I think in some ways it's easier to conceptualise it through a sexual lens when many of us just want to give and receive kind touch and attention.
I agree with most of the video, but I think as someone who’s had their consent disregarded and subsequently been violated (to put it nicely), I think that any new sexual acts between partners should be discussed beforehand. At least, that’s what I would want out of a relationship. It’s personal, of course, but I absolutely understand where that guy was coming from. It could definitely be shocking and disturbing to wake up to that, no matter how long you’ve known your partner, whether or not you’ve been violated in the past, and especially if you’ve never discussed it before. If you’re touch starved or know in your heart that you like spontaneous and new sex acts performed on you at random, that is great and freeing! But it’s absolutely not everyone. Again, this is coming from the perspective of someone who’s experienced sexual trauma, but I think the whole “enthusiastic yes” version of consent is pretty great. This might ruffle feathers, but I feel like if you can’t ask someone “do you wanna kiss” or “would you like it if I touched you here” because you feel like it’s too awkward or something, maybe you’re not mature enough to be having sex. It should be easy to ask these questions. It’s not unsexy at all, and if you read any smut written by women, it’s actually a turn on.
Yeah honestly I agree, if you're too embarrassed to ask for consent or feel it's "awkward" then you're just not mature enough to have sex. It doesn't necessarily have to be verbal at a certain point (once you and your partner know each other enough) but you definitely can't consent when you're unconscious!
Totally agree with you. It doesn't matter if you're waking up to a one night stand or your married partner of 30 years. You physically cannot consent while asleep. It would be weird if he didn't atleast feel conflicted about it, when he could literally file a police report about it. I really don't get how the creator missed this? It doesn't magically become innocent and cute when you've been with someone for a while, it's still a blatant disregard of someone's free will.
i agree! i didnt really get her point on 'consent culture'
i dont think being overly cautious with your partners can ever be a bad thing and didnt understand the way Kid made it seem like its a new obstacle to overcome.
I agree, like spousal r*pe exists and wasn't until recently it's been taken seriously. I wouldn't something spontaneous but if my partner does that w/o my consent I would feel put off by it. Then again for me, I have sexual trauma so if that happened to me I would freak out and have an episode.
Wrong. It's exceptionally unsexy. And it's women who think that. Not a single woman I've dated nor any friend's dates has found it sexy to overtly ask for consent for every move. They say themselves they would get angry because they want a social competent man, not an autistic person who can't read social queues. Overt consent is a feminist subversive trope created to destroy the relationship between men and women. And oh yea, smut women write proves you wrong since they love the trope of the strong dominant assertive man who takes what he wants and throws them up against the wall and just kiss them. Nothing else. A pathetic, insecure weak man who fraily asks if he's allowed to touch her boob is a straight turn off.
As a woman, I feel that my intimacy is the only actual commodity I have.
That’s been true for a lot of women.
I'm genuinely curious, could you elaborate your response a little more? You're saying that you don't feel that you have any value outside of your ability to provide intimacy? Am I understanding correctly?
I too am curious as to what exactly you mean.
@@Nihilist_Waltzthat is certainly the way traditionalists want to make it / keep it. The only difference is that they don’t want to allow women to use it outside of their own individual control
Edit: I realized “their” is ambiguous. It means “conservatives’ ”
From a career perspective or relationship?
Damn. I've never been down so bad that this would ever appeal to me.
Society has always wanted this of women. The aha moment was realizing that this is customer-service voice. The glazed over, emotionles mask, faking a custom-made interaction with the customer, and the viewer forgetting that you're a human after being desensitized by these actions.
I think there is also something to be said for the amount of people that have experienced sexual abuse? I think that a reason for people getting something out of this intimate content is because it is about control - where the person holding the screen is completely safe but also able to experience pleasure without any chance of being physically hurt or taken advantage of.
You don't need to watch intimate content to have an intimate connection. The personal human connection becomes weaker
"Imagine what the beautiful girls get" You are a beatiful girl.
Baited
At what point is about “reclaiming one’s sexuality” and just profiteering from lust? Would these women really be doing this if it weren’t for the ludicrous amount of money they get?
Absolutely not. 😂 I think the polish couple genuinely does it for fun. But most of the time, it’s just a market.
@@LoneWulf278 well yeah the polish couple was obviously not being sexual. I’m talking about sexualized NPC, OF, etc
@@Realcaramelli That’s what I’m talking about, too. It’s just a market for them. That’s why I roll my eyes when they make it about ‘sexual liberation’. When they are comfortable, they kinda let it slip that It’s just business to them.
What's the problem? People always say this about sexy women but never about ugly rich mogul men
Good god those NPC videos are so fricking terrifying, its like you took out whatever a person had inside and just were left with an automaton shell that acts on command.
Its some uncanny valley level horror
I like it so far but I've only seen reactions to it, I wouldn't even dare watching it myself
Unfortunately that seems to be the appeal
I get that you don't watch much porn, but none of this is new. There has been POV and JOI forever, both of which place the viewer in the scene, either visually or with direct talking to the audience. What's new and selling big here is that it's safe for work content, it's softcore and is a lead in to actual porn. It's nothing new to make a robotic performer repeat salacious acts you pay them for, but doing it on the street in broad daylight legally, now that is a new wrinkle in the plan. I think it's more accurate to call it a marketing trend than anything else.
Exactly. It’s nothing new. It’s just more visible.
Yes thats true and there always has been sexworkers who sell the "girlfriend expierence" its not that new, tiktok is just a new plattform
ACCURATE.
Yes this. What’s going to happen to age limit on TT now
I think you're missing the point. The fact that sex workers make an effort to rope people into their porn via softcore content on SFW platforms is predatory and disgusting. That's the problem.
I also feel like losing my dignity as a minimum wage worker.
Isn’t that more about how the job is treating you rather then the innate nature of the profession tho?
@@clevernamerighthere9240 It's the whole thing 😅
Pt? For PC stuff (npc,Asmr,mukbangsext)I say fuck it and try but for of and corn content no that can stuff destroy your life if you don’t make to the top 2% of creators and end making only 100$ a month.
@@weird-guy Agree 👍
Right? Being your own boss and not even working hard for it (can't be the judge of that of course) is actually dignified, especially if you don't exploit people for it (like paying your employees minimum wage for actually carrying your fucking company)
Pinkydoll isn’t manipulating anyone. People chose to give her money for this stuff. She wouldnt make 7k a day or 12k a day if people werent paying her that amount of money. So if society had all this moral high ground she wouldnt exist in the first place. Shes makes more doing NPC than she does on onlyfans which also speaking volumes. We pay teachers, police officers, nurses and doctors scraps compared to what rappers, athletes and actors make… literal millions!! but are mad at Pinkydoll as if she forced people to give her their money.
I think we are so lonely, like that is the default for many people because we don't know how to have a relationship with ourselves...which makes everything harder, friendships, relationships, and inbetweenships... We need connection, it is hard to blame people for their response to a cruel and lonely world. I think people may not even realize how lonely they are, or are ashamed of it. Why can't we just run up to each other, discover we both have the same favorite color and love ice cream and then decide we are now friends and skip off to go play together in uncomplicated bliss? 💔
Because everyone is a self-absorbed alien who will never understand you, never actually care about you, and just throw you away the moment they get bored of you or feel triggered by something you say or do. Everyone is traumatized nowadays, and traumatized people can't maintain relationships and really can't even start them.
@@thegreatdream8427 I was just trying to say, a lot changes and improves when people take time to self-reflect, journal and work on loving themselves. Once you have a good relationship with yourself, you can form stronger connections with others. If you show yourself empathy 1st, you then can show more empathy to others. Side note... I was traumatized from childhood abuse and neglect from my parental figures, and it is harsh to say that about traumatized people. Trauma doesn't excuse harmful/hurtful behavior...at all and we are responsible to fix ourselves, but we are not doomed to be alone, we just have more work to do lol.
I think loneliness is the fault of nothing other than the lonely person. No one is obligated to give you their time. The lonely person needs to put in the effort and put themselves out there 🤷 Join a club, read books. There's options other than watching fking porn
@@SQUELCH-zj7il Spoken like a true neurotypical who has never suffered from trauma, been abused, gone crazy and lost touch with reality, or had no spare time or money to spend on socialization.
"Your suffering is your fault!" is exactly the nonsense that has gotten the world into this mess. And no, I'm not suggesting the SJW alternative "Your suffering is X oppressor group's fault" either. It's *everyone's* fault, and we are all responsible for one another AND for ourselves.
@@cindylu607 So was I. I think what I said is still true. Traumatized people who do not have the resources or support to be able to heal make problems (their own and other people's) worse, not better. And I personally DO feel doomed to be alone. You can only try and fail so many times before wanting to give up.
it's scary to think about how this content will shape the minds of the younger girls and boys... At such an impressionable age this kind of thing can define you. I can see a person kinda "falling in love" and getting obsessed with one of this girls, how does hours of consuming this affect you?
Alright I’ll teach you something special, won’t hold back. NPC is a non playable character, it’s already a thing in video games. Some games are romance novels that you interact with, these can be very deep and complex. The game characters are more popular then most real people, even people using anime avatars are incredibly popular. This is a weak and pale imitation, with a fraction of the real things influence
@@prouddegenerates9056there are such thing as gaming addiction and with that are a lot of downsides weather it be, not being able to connect to your peers properly, not understanding social cues or feeling lost when it comes to intimacy because of unrealistic expectations. To much of anything can become an addiction and if we start having people rely on intimacy or interactions completely based on the internet how do you think interactions will be like in the future. We already see human interaction deteriorating because of the internet but it’s slowly getting worse.
Yeah kids really shouldn't be on social media
I briefly dated a 25-y-o (I'm 41) who was very inexperienced sexually but watched a lot of animated fetish porn. I would say he was addicted. He told me a lot about his very interesting fetishes upon our first meeting. Now, I've seen a lot of things in life so I pretty much just sat there and took it all in, even though I had never heard of his particular interests and was pretty...confused? I did ask him, though, if he was able to enjoy regular sex, to which he said yes but ultimately, I don't think that was true. When we got to the point of messing around, he had like, an entire script in his mind, a very specific script of which he kept calling audibles, and there was nothing organic or spontaneous about the way our sex sessions unfolded. Now, I didn't mind indulging his fantasies and even watched some of the porn with him but as I got to know him more, I realized that his fantasy life flooded into our entire dynamic meaning, I realized that some of the things he would say to me during normal conversations were really just him furthering the fantasies that he was obsessed with. So, not only was he incapable of participating in an organic sexual experience, he was also seemingly incapable of separating fantasy from reality when it came to an "intimate" connection. Weirdly, even when it came to pleasing me, which he was very eager to do, it seemed as if he wanted me to be into certain things that aligned with HIS fantasies or what porn had suggested women are into. I know this is just anecdotal and perhaps an outlier case of the degree to which young adults are or are not able to engage in true intimacy but I walked away from that connection thinking, damn, this younger generation is damn near disabled when it comes to true intimacy.
@@RepentImmediately I’ve had a girl ask me to do some extensive stalker play, it was a lot. The sheer depravity exceeded anything I’d ever imagine naturally.
Self objectification isn’t about reclaiming anything. It’s about $$$$$$$$$$ and nothing else. If the $$$$$$$$$$ wasn’t there, they wouldn’t do it.
but in this world, having more money, is having more power. Because with having more money you could buy more things and time in form of paying people to do things for you.
The term "objectification" has become a joke, because now it's pretty evident that many people never really had a problem with objectification; they had a problem with who was raking in the majority of money from it, and the internet fixed that problem as it has so many others.
Would you work without getting paid🤔
@@BaronicqueLangisa-ko1xl Your comment doesn’t make sense regarding what I stated here. The claim is that these people are doing it for reasons that have nothing to do with money.
@@Peb02497yes but there is a difference between doing something/working for money .. and doing it because you like it , want to do it , or are reclaiming something …
You are so intelligent and genuinely make me think about the world in a different way
“Life imitates art far more than art imitates life” - Oscar Wilde. This trend made me think of that quote.
when quotes become more common than actual thoughts by the people quoting, then that really is the case.
No sis, people definitely should consent to sexual activities with each other. Unless "spontaneity" is really worth catching a charge or potentially traumatizing your partner.
The intimacy TikTok girl reminded me of a Sci-if file (from the ‘90’s) called “Strange Days” where experiences are recorded, then played back into people’s heads. This may be sort of synthetic, rather than a real recording, but…
In the film, there’s an illicit market in the playbacks for sex, violence, intimacy, crime, voyeurism & clinging onto past relationships, all things currently served on various social media platforms.
I don’t think it intended to predict social media trends (there’s a lot going on in this movie) or anything like that, but… …y’know it captures where we’re heading quite well.
I sometimes look at old videos of when my wife still desired me... This is already possible now, though only not as immersive as that.
You're so right, I love that theme in that movie. Glad someone else thought of that too!
8:45 Ah, yes. How could I forget the "dignity" that comes with minimum-wage work?
That NPC/AI role-playing thing makes me deeply uncomfortable, and it's probably bacause of the dehumanization aspect of it, how it feels like the tame equivalent of a sex doll-just a pretty shell with no will, no autonomy, no thoughts of her own that obeys your every command regardless of how degrading it is as soon as you uttered it, has no objections or preferences of her own, never refuses, never says "no" to you, exists only to serve you, to please you. It's chilling.
Pinkydoll is culturally appropriating chatbots; Cortana will clean her out in court soon. 😅
Cortana > pinky doll (Im referencing Halo)
Oh no not Cortana
She’s dead how can she sue😂😂
Robots are so good that women are only desirable by imitating them.
Consent culture is very much, and perhaps equally or even more needed in long term relationships. While you have a point about intimacy being missing, "Trust" is often an efficient path towards abuse or one person exploiting another. While it is idyllic to imagine everybody is selfless and altruistic towards their partners, that's not human nature, so boundaries and clear communication is needed to avoid that. What is not needed is guys like the ones who posted the reddit post being confused about their own feelings just because consent culture told them so.
There are ways sexy things are sexy, that are about more than just mechanical consent, and people don't get that. At the same time, what if the gf ends up crossing more and more lines, and it gets more and more toxic? He was correct in that his gf broke his boundaries, if those were his boundaries in the first place, but given that nothing physically happened that didn't usually happen, and given that he's undecided about what his boundaries were, he should know enough to communicate that with her and create an agreement. At the same time, she also crossed certain boundaries, that she wouldn't necessarily like to be crossed with her, not just in any relationship. If they're not both clear about how they expect that to be navigated in their relationship going forward, it could mean doom for their relationship. Tldr: The bf's concern wasn't just because of consent culture, it was a real feeling that he had, and in this case, the therapy language actually partially makes sense.
consent culture is making human interaction so unappetizing we would just prefer to be alone.
NPC tik tok trend won't last, people get tired of the same thing quickly, I wouldn't worry about it
That NPC thing literally made my body feel sick. That was so extremely weird to experience. I wish I didn’t watch it 😂
Great video! My thoughts are that it is indeed sad that intimacy is being commodified and monetized, but I don't think "consent culture" is to blame. I don't really see any evidence that the need for consent is dividing otherwise happy, loving couples.
The only real evidence of this, that reddit post, clearly states that the only reason OP was uncomfortable at all was because his gf DIDN'T get his consent beforehand and surprised him with sex without giving him the opportunity to say yes or no... Presumably, this made him feel dehumanized and like his autonomy was taken away. Thus, intimacy he otherwise would have enjoyed was made uncomfortable specifically by a lack of consent. Nowhere in that post is there an indication that he got the idea he should feel uncomfortable about a lack of consent from "the culture;" he states the act itself made him FEEL uncomfortable, because it violated his autonomy.
I know I would be very upset if my partner did that to me, not because I don't love him and want him to be intimate with me, but because me being in a relationship with him doesn't mean he now owns my body. I'm still my own person, and want to be able to decide when I want to have sex with him. Trust in a relationship is actually based around consent. We don't have to have the "do you enthusiastically consent" talk every time we have sex specifically because I trust him not to do something to me without asking me first.
Moreover, consent within long-term partnerships is just as important as in the context of a hookup because marital rape/spousal abuse is sadly way too common. For such a long time under misogynist patriarcha laws/culture in many countries like the US, marital rape wasn't even considered a crime, as it was seen that consent doesn't apply to married couples, who now essentially own each other's bodies--mostly just the man owning the woman's body though.
The problem with modern intimacy is not consent culture. It's very clearly capitalism commodifying everything in sight as people seek both greater validation and lavish lifestyles through wealth and just try to survive in increasingly unstable economies.
Wrong. Pure drivel. Consent culture is the problem. Because it negates the need for social competence which bears far worse implications for society than asking your wife of 15 years to touch a boob. Consent culture actively destroys the need for social competence and replaces it entirely. No matter the Mental gymnastics you perform to try to convince yourself of the opposite.
I have zero negative feelings towards pinkydoll. I'm actually impressed with her. She's a social engineering genius. An NPC stream? Who would have thought of that? And look how much money she's making!? Everyone that has negative feelings towards her is either angry that she's making money doing something "anyone can do" but not anyone would think of, or actually angry at the fact that people actually buy into it.
Agreed😊
@@prouddegenerates9056strawman
Yeah now you're just using the capitalism argument -.- there's no such thing as envy
People critisising PinkyDoll in this day and age gotta chill though, at least PinkyDoll's not hurting anyone
32:56 I was really feeling the video until she got to this point. Why is she invalidating how uncomfortable OP was? Consent is needed all the time in a relationship unless it was already pre-established otherwise, and as OP’s gf had never done that before of course he’s gonna be uncomfortable by it. OP has every right to be uncomfortable, and he also has every right to change his mind and decide that he likes it. Kidology’s take is bad and reinforces the same rhetoric of “you can’t be r worded if you’re married” etc. Consent is ALWAYS needed
It may have caused his body to feel the feeling you get when you have sex but he most likely didn't like the act of being raped as rape is still rape if no consent is given.
Sexual acts on a SLEEPING person is rape, unless possibly if it has been talked about and agreed upon beforehand. But even if consent is given the night prior, to be woken up to sex I mean, it’s still a tricky situation since consent usually needs to given in the moment of sex and also can be taken away at any point if you don’t feel like doing a certain thing or want to stop altogether. If my husband woke me up by fucking raping me I would divorce him, like wtf how can anyone rationalize abuse
What husband, bill? The most intimate relationship you've ever had is with a cat.
OMG the fake kissing and noises 🤢🤮
33:29 The one man who didnt like his GF giving him a blow job sounds like he is hung up sexually in other ways, maybe religion, socially (women shouldn't initiate) or he could even have sexual trauma. I had a bf who didn't like oral sex because he was abused as a boy. I had another bf have sexual hangups because his dad made him sleep with a prostitute as a teen . Not all men just love sex all the time and sometimes there are valid reasons other then "consent culture is crazy out of control."
Consent culture is also about knowing when some is flirting and reading the signs.
Pretty sure rape culture ruined intimacy well before consent culture ever could.
I got assaulted at work and my boss blamed it on me getting changed into a dress before leaving work. (I was a waitress and I was going to an art show after my shift.) Oh and I had been friendly with him. Because being friendly with a co-worker is an invitation to be groped and assaulted in an elevator.
You talk about women being sexualized for everything since they were young, but don't link it to the importance of why its there? Because for so many of us even clearly saying "no" is not enough for some men. Or you can go from consensually flirting to all of a sudden the man thinking its okay to force himself on you because you were nice. I think a healthy man only wants to flirt with someone when its reciprocal?
1/4 women probably need a lot of boundaries and consent due to trauma. Any man who understands this bleak reality doesn't mind. My own husband now will stop and ask consent for some things, and its hella sexy because I can trust him more and it feel super intimate in ways flirting with a strander can never be.
Real Intimacy is not "trilling", its comforting.
this. really threw me off when she arrived at that point but she’s been known to have some wild takes
I thought this comment was really well thought out. I think sexually abused men is underreported and it affects them. We are all interconnected, even when we are alone.
I've been dating my bf for 4 years and he doesn't need to ask for consent at all. I find that concept strange for long term relationships. After a while you'll know your partner and you can judge off body language whether or not they're in the mood or receptive 🤷
Imo consent stops when someone say to stop, in the beginning you need to read the room but if you incorrectly read the room after a no or stop consent also stop but I’m might be wrong
I know that's the case for me, I tend to pull back from men who don't understand or honor that. Which unfortunately is a lot of the ones I encountered, they don't like that I wanna take it at my own pace, I gotta get to know them, etc. even just to hookup. Even after I tell them I have fear around sex and intimacy, so, I just turn to the best next thing which is other sorts of intimacy media. That way I have control and know that I'm safe, bc w/a real man... my chances aren't that high.
I haven't heard many people acknowledge the original NPC reference: video games. Gamers like to romance NPC's, and these women are simply giving a performance. It's everyone else getting entitled over how we survive under capitalism that are making a spectacle of it.
Another unique and thought provoking analysis. Bravo! Thank you!
Thank you for producing such genuine, intellectual videos. When you review internet trends, it isn’t “for clout” or an excuse to make fun of people. I really appreciate your nuanced perspectives, and I can tell you have a background in women & gender studies, among other concepts. I always learn something new when I watch your videos, or find myself genuinely questioning my beliefs. It’s content that makes me question my beliefs, rather than reinforce them, that we need more of online.
Nobody forced those ladies to objectify themselves online, but nobody made those simps give up their cash. Who do I point my finger at? This is frustrating.
The simps obviously - without their degenerate behaviour none of this would be happening.
Societal trends are always complex.
No more finger pointing!
@@youdonotthink No more holding people accountable for their actions!
@@pooscifer Pointing fingers =/= holding others accountable
Subtlety is dying (in the West?) so fast that even your partner, the person you've supposedly chosen as your most trusted, surprising you, with good intentions, has become a cause for concern.
The We-Don't-Have-Much-Time Trend made me mad uncomfortable 😓
I'm not on Tiktok so this is the first time i see intimacy content but please make it stoooop! The things i'm willing to watch for Kidology 😂😂😂
Yas! Another non tik tok joiner! 😊
I don’t use TikTok so I also discover it from it commentary creators but it’s weird but not surprising because asmr and mukbang has a sub section with kink content and there’s pov corn ect and much weird kink that I don’t know about or want to watch my eyes with bleach after discovering it.
@@weird-guy lol that’s funny! Sounds like a game. But I know I’ll get addicted as there is lots of cool stuff on TikTok., 😎😝
We appreciate your insights. They’re straightforward and detailed.
I gotta say that I don't think that "consent culture" is the true enemy to intimacy in our modern dating world. I get the aspect of the insecurity it creates about flirting and sexuality, but in my eyes it stays relevant even in commited relationships. Even if the guy who woke up to a bj later figures out that he'd actually like for it to happen again, him feeling uncomfortable about it in the moment is just as valid. I have experienced sexualized violence in a longterm relationship, where somebody was overstepping boundaries i had newly put up, despite doing and liking these things earlier in the relationship. Waking up to someone doing something sexual with your unconscious body that you didn't discusss prior can be scary to a lot of people. Consent is a tool, just not the only one we should focus on when creating intimacy.
I have not seen any of this stuff because I am not on TikTok 🤔 Bizzare content is nothing new, but the option to consume the stuff non-stop for all eternity while your physical body ages and withers away... Well that is the challenge faced by young people. The amount of the stuff that you can consume (and are expected to self-moderate yourself from) is extreme and unusual.
This strikes me as quite dystopian. When did the real world become a Phillip K. Dick novel?
Just started and I don't know what creeps me out more. The weird kissing thing at the camera, or someone putting moisturizer on their skin directly from the spout, who does that? Are these aliens trying to pass as humans? Dear lord. Also the NPC girls have clearly never played a videogame in their lives and don't know what an NPC actually is.no NPC in any videogame I've ever played the last 20+ years has acted anything like this.
I found you like two weeks ago and I've been obsessed honestly
The "intimacy" trend made me feel so uncomfortable. Perhaps because I am a straight woman, I can't find it appealing. But from the few clips I saw, it felt like a simulation where one is assaulted. It concerns me more because the parasocial relationship perhaps might make it more intimate, but as a stranger it feels violating. I think this trend is blurring the boundaries of intimacy and predatory dynamic of sex.
As a straight man, at first I found it jarring and uncomfortable but I can see the appeal. Especially if I was lonely and craving female intimacy and attention. Reminds me a bit of waifu culture.
1:37 pinkydoll had to be one of the absolute depths of tiktok. she wasn’t on my fyp but i somehow knew of her. saw her on some tiktok award and turns out the filter she uses lightens her skin. sad story when you think about it. beautiful darkskin girl is using a filter to brighten her skin. probably not new but yeah
The content that "effysx" produces is a carbon copy of an indie cornography genre that is meant to replicate initimacy, except minus the simulated sex. Literally everything, from the pov viewpoint, to the asmr talking, to "good boy", cowgirl postioning, "we don't have much time" etc. are cliches of the genre. It isn't that it offers something that corn doesn't (it's actually just a cut down version), but it's that it's as close as you can get on TikTok without being banned. A cut-down version is enough to do a gazillion views.
This is a very nuanced video, thank you for making it. It would be really interesting to elaborate on what you were talking about near the end about control and consent, and the therapy language used.
We're challenged to be happy with ourselves in a low quality self improvement era where no one truly has a heart for deep change or the mind to test their level of contentment. We only pretend not seeing creed or background because we want it our superficial way. If everyone's "way" is now a trend or a new culture then I choose non-conformist through and through. I choose originality.
Something about all this tells me technology has made us the experiment by tapping into the social unconscious to see how artificial we are.
It's interesting how Kidology thinks it is tragic that a woman can't have sex with her spouse in their sleep, but “rough” intercourse (which could be something as mundane as spanking) is horrible and unintimate.
Her logic is that if she perceives a woman as desiring something, it must be good because women are intrinsically good and incapable of having harmful or wrong desires.
I don't really get the thing against consent in advanced relationships. like maybe it's just me being ace but some time of consent should be upheld. even the dude woken up by his girlfriend he felt uncomfortable at the moment but was open to it later, as in if they talked about it before being surprised like that would be great.
also the stories of women in marriages just going along with something bc they're husbands want it, like they were in a committed relationship but that doesn't mean consent is everlasting.
she hasnt been in a relationship in 6 years so i think she forgot how needed just a bit of affirmation is, you cant just randomly start proforming sx acts on someone who didnt know about it, and had the genders been reveresed shed call it sa
Was not even aware this type of content existed... originally when I clicked on the video I wasn't sure if you were referring to ASMRtists who do more platonic intimacy POV videos, like "friend comforts you/does your hair"etc, which I think has been a really positive contribution. Aside to romantic loneliness, there are so many of us who dont have strong support circles, or are neurodivergent, or are seniors, disabled, etc.etc. spending a lot of time at home. These are obviously symptoms of adjecent issues in society. Well anyway I feel like I'm just rambling now. This was really interesting.
This is a very complex thing, but what comes to my mind momentarilly, is the feeling that humans, now, that use social media, contradict their own issues with what they consume without noticing it (maybe), further sementing the issues that afect them for real.
What I mean is this: People don't seem to like seeing other humans talking, if they are just being normal humans (without pampering up their looks and/or behaving in an annatural way), while at the same time, complaining about "loneliness" in society.
Its... weird.
Just what came to my mind by watching this. It was very interesting :)
Edit: I can't claim to fully get the thing about sex and sexuality, so I'm probably having a very "off" take about this, but I wanted to share anyways. I will mention the absolute that sexuality and beauty are two different things, as I think this has something to do with it 🙂
Just a little note about loczniki (love them btw) - it's supposed to be prounanced like loh-ch-neekee because in Polish cz is basically like ch in English 🤗
I honestly think that they're doing this stuff for fun, they don't try to sexualise themselves, more like just make content that is funny/interesting to watch
Yeah I don’t think that’s the same, and I don’t think anyone is saying it is.
yeah, their content is a lot more light hearted.
Their movements are beautiful. If anything they definitely showcase a mastery of their craft.
I for the most part agree w this but think it's kinda unfair that most ppl are acting like it isn't mainly women who were supporting Pinky before she went viral within the last few weeks, you can see on her videos and lives that majority of the people who were donating and sending super stickers were WOMEN and had women's names and pfps. It's gross to me that ppl have been saying "gross men are just simping!".
Adam Mcintyre covered this along w an article and I think his takes have been the fairest I've seen.
I love NPCs mainly loczniki who is my fav and has been doing this for over a year now. She and her bf are very talented cos of their glitching, dancing and NPC movements and that has always been satirical, including the NPC gf bit they do. Pinky's performances from what I've seen also seem satirical to me, the boom who are now getting into it I think pretend to be, but Brittany Venti summed it up well: you can't unironically suck D. Those newer girls who are dressed in lingerie, squirting lotion all over their faces, answering sxual questions like "is it pink?" (which is linked to tt pdophilia) btw and bending over, making gagging noises, using eggplants as a prop are not in the same vein as Pinky imo.
It's anecdotal but all the gen z girls I've spoken to abt Pinky have agreed w me that she reminds us of those games we'd play when we were little where we'd give them stuff, dress them up, brush their hair, feed them, do their make up, shake the screen to make them sick, tell them jokes, etc
They were just as fun as they are repetitive. but most of us think it's silly, cringey and goofy. I'm certain if someone checked Pinky's tt following for the ratio of female and male followership they're mostly girls, especially BEFORE this recent blow up.
Most of the comments from those who are interacting now are cringe watching, but before this it was always silly watching and are making that known. Even when she has broken character bcos of her son you can clearly see WOMEN telling her "it's okay queen go deal w your son 💓" and "NOT THE DOG💀"
A very small percentage of people are sxualizing it, esp the non-sxual ones where she's just talking to the camera in the kitchen popping popcorn, but that can be said about anything on the internet, even this video essay.
Also Ik alot of the girls who hopped onto this trend are OF girls and I personally think Pinky was being genuine when she was thanking her audience. She has been able to dramatically change her and her son's life bcos of the money she's been making doing NPC streams and as someone who is anti-pxrn and anti-sxwork I'd rather she and others get a bag by being fully clothes than feeling the need to do pxrn and survival sxwork.
I've seen alot of ppl crapping on gen z for this when we literally find it funny and most of our humour is edgy and satirical but it's like sis we weren't the ones who genuinely made ppl like belle delpine and her bathwater pop off so maybe take a look at yourselves before you try to come for us. 💀💀
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Gen Z has their BTS Army, we will come at you for that
The Gen Z generation have been socialised to have less barriers in place, so they can’t recognise what may be harmful to unless it is explicit.
Thanks for your insight! I purposefully stay away from TT as I know how addictive it is & constantly hear about all the crazes (tik tok trends!). Hence why I don’t feel need to have an account.
But yeah remember back when those 2 Americans were famous for doing stupid shit? Gosh their name is failing atm, but one of them became an actor. But like they would be super daring & it was popular! And they got hurt, I think often, but became very famous from it. I didn’t personally find that stuff entertaining, just like these current NPC trends. BUT on the whole I think it’s just humans needing to be stimulated & using other similar humans to do so.
I myself don’t know what kind of audience pinkydoll has had, but I believe that it was women that was her biggest supporters, probably making her ‘famous’ generating more men to like/pay her.
Women empowering other women I guess, men tapping into it. 🤷♀️
Also I wholeheartedly agree with about being against the porn & sex work industries, I’ve shifted my view over time & changed from pro-porn & pro-sex work to against it.
It is better pinkydoll and the like is using OTHER means then nudity to generate income & notoriety, so it might fall under ‘entertainer’, ‘comedian’, or ‘TV personality’ . Being attractive & interesting without being an em rata type of influencer. ❤
It’s kink stuff just like furries just because a section like to watch just because doesn’t mean nothing , also that girl has an of and was crying about people sharing it for free 🤦♂️ 😂
That some f weird group of gen Z😂
Pinkydoll embraced the void and that's why I love her.
After that intro I’m going to take some time to go outside and get to know my neighbors.
Go borrow salt
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I disagree with the part about the reddit guy. Just because you know someone's body and have been intimate with in the past doesn't mean that you are allowed to cross boundaries and let's not forget that SA can happen even in a relationship. In that guy's case it was bothering him enough that he took it to reddit to ask for opinion. He felt violated and it sounds to me that he tried to convince himself that he liked it to regain control, obviously I don't know him but the fact that is he felt she crossed a boundary and I am glad that "therapy" words exist so people can put words on their experience. To me that guy was SA, if the situation was reversed no one would even question it.
As someone who was repeatedly SA'd by a partner and made to feel like SA wasn't possible in a relationship... some of your rhetoric towards intimacy and consent in a relationship is a little concerning. It's really dangerous to encourage the narrative that long-term relationships equal consent, when so many cases of SA happen in such relationships. Victims are often made to feel like their feelings aren't valid or that their experiences aren't real simply because consent has been established with that person previously. SA is possible both in new and familiar sexual experiences in a relationship whether you have been together a few weeks, months or years.
She actually discusses the difference between the two, albeit not specifically.
I’m sorry you experienced that.
I completely agree with you as a fellow victims some of her points were triggering and concerning. I have been SA'ed by someone I was in a relationship with and that doesn't erase my trauma just because she was my partner.
Thnaks for explaining :D I was bit confused when her video showed up !
I think it's 85% capitalism. This is actual value as a concept being broken down and compartmentalized. It's not unsimilar to pure dopamine-roll games where you spin a wheel and win worthless points and virtual knick-knacks for free only your payment is watching an ad between spins. Are these ads actually selling products? Probably not. But the ads themselves make money for the developer and the consumer is so far removed from the advertiser that the chain of cash is not interrupted my silly things like efficacy of marketing strategies. The advertisers are paying for space in your brain or are other games being advertised in an endless loop creating a financial bubble. The economy today is like chocolate milk where the kid is blowing bubbles into it so ferociously that the liquid is basically foam and destroyed. Money has lost all connection to objective value and that is very well represented in NPC content as well. We pay for simulacras, our stomach is full of leather. No nutrition there just a feeling of fullness. This spirals as we starv, and have less energy to fight for actual food for the soul.
wow this was actually pretty profound
That creepy fourth wall sex simulator is a raunchy version of The Continental is an American television series that aired on CBS in 1952. It starred Renzo Cesana in the title role. The 15-minute program was aimed at housewife at the end of the night's prime time schedule. I remember seeing bits of it, and it was hilarious. Some suave guy addresses a fourth wall which is YOU, and a gloved, female arm reaches out to caressed and kissed and “seduced”. You can probably find it on RUclips
I don’t agree with the problem of lack of intimacy coming from «consent culture». I don’t see how consent gets in the way of building natural intimacy, as it is simply a means of respecting the other person and making sure they are confortable. In the example you showed, the young man’s question was totally reasonable, I don’t think it’s normal to perform a sexual act on someone while they sleep (without having talked about it before), and i don’t see how them being in a relationship changes anything.
The discussion around consent can increase intimacy, I think, because it's communication, isn't it?
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I agree with most of what you said. It's interesting how you watch this stuff for hours. I don't consume TikTok usually because I'm too old and I'm quite happy about it.
But I have to criticise the note about consent culture. I hadn't heard that expression before and I was really glad to hear it because I think there must be alternatives to the things we're doing wrong. Like love to hate, like communism to capitalism, there's now consent culture as a movement away from rape culture.
Two things: 1. Rape culture is still predominant. You literally showed it in the video with the reddit posts about violent sex, but also the whole NPC and intimacy thing is part of rape culture, because, like you said, it triggered this whole thing in the first place - young girls are being sexualised against their will, and are now trying to control it - to turn it into consent culture. I don't know if it's right what they're doing. I can and will not presume anything about these actors.
2. Consent culture is not ruining anything. 32:00 This literally happened to me. I've been in a romantic and sexual relationship for a few years and sometimes, my partner still does things that I don't want just like I do things that they don't want. Maybe we don't know each other inside out. Maybe we're still into different things, even after three years. Why would you assume otherwise of people you don't know, especially if they're voicing their discomfort? Overstepping a boundary is still hurtful, even if your experience is a good one in the end.
All in all, good video and very interesting take, I liked it and will be coming back, thank you
Wow, so when I was over seas in Asia they had gf/bf bars where you'd go to get actual one on one company. If you had a regular you'd become quite familiar with eachother and I thought that it was odd but this takes the cake. If gf bars were questionable this is just exploitative. Would love to see your take on findom next
what is findom? if thats not a stupid question
@Julia-oe9xl financial domineering or dominance. Men = pay pigs and women are the mistress. It's seudosexual and mostly humiliation and leaching men pay women to insult them. Sigh I hate this world
I love your profile picture 😂
@@Julia-oe9xlfinancial dominance. Similar to Femdom. But I bet you probably already googled it 😂
@@seiwarriors ahh i was about to say, i know femdom but never heard of findom - thought it was misspelled or smth.
I think the most scary and dehumanizing npc-trend I've come across so far is the compilations with recorded people with psychosis either from drugs or even just schizophrenic people sitting on the subway talking to themselves but with the elden ring, or whatever it is, music in the background to make us really see them as non humans, non important and just a buggy side show.
Not a human being in despair and in need of love and help.
I pray to God that so don't become psychotic outside of my apartment now a days.
So much confusion and hypocrisy over OF and NPC Tik Tok (which I'd never heard of before this).
Would love to hear Kidology talk about The Home Depot Girl and how these conflicts, confusion and hypocrisy play out.
When an attractive woman has OF: men have a hissy fit
When a attractive woman works a regular 9-5 and doesn't make content:
Men throw a hissy fit and stalk her until she's pressured to do an OF.
The issue here is that men want to use women for their own selfish deviancy and for FREE. They hate seeing these women successful, but gladly will view the content of it wasn't behind a Paywall
@@SQUELCH-zj7il The hypocrisy is galling. It's all about control for men. She was doxxed and had to leave her job and move house.
Disgraceful.
It was a "hip hop newspaper", the Daily Loud which had a poll on whether she should start an OF page. Lord have mercy.
I don’t know about this Home Depot girl situation but you need to understand that’s different sub section of men in that esfere ,the “simps” and fake “real” men that like to talk/comment and act superior and against women and sometimes faking because hate sells on the internet or being hypocritics
Your videos are next level. I am t e r m i n a l l y online and you’re going DEEP into rabbit holes I’ve never ever even heard a HINT of. Ever. And you don’t just lightly graze the surface of these topics. You go in. Really great channel and probably one of my best new subscriptions in years. ❤
Apart from drawing on the fetishisation of video game and anime media characters, I think a core reason for the popularity of NPC tok is the agency it provides to the viewer, which is beyond that which they experience viewing media or playing video games. Intimacy is being replaced by agency. Intimacy is at its core an emotional mutual relating between people. In our digital and commodified world, agency and ego are constantly being reinforced and most narratives about satisfaction with life or improving your life, what makes a good relationship etc, are rooted in individuality and self-determination.
I love your voice!!!! It’s so comforting it’s like the voices that are used in audio books
I don't care what you say about yourself. I think you're gorgeous.
8:28 That's where I am on this. I find all this "moralsplaing" to be arrogant, presumptuous. Where do these 'virtuous' people get off telling other people what should be degrading to them? They don't know them. They think they're making a point, but instead, they sound like condescending jerks.
My evening FYP is inundated with NPC cosplay! It is like every two scrolls is a NPC tiktok live. I saw my first male Thug NPC like 2 nights ago...now that was hilarious.
I was wondering if a male version of this exist. Sure a handsome ripped guy could make money of this, like those kpop guys or handsome celebrities. I guess self-degradation is just not a first choice for men like it is women. 🤷♀️💀
@@FrozenAfricaPrincess There are guys, but most I see seem to make it a caricature. I saw one guy who was muscular with his shirt off doing it but...meh. It seems like at this point everyone doing it is making it a money grab.
The consent thing and that young lad and the BJ...If a female wrote 'I woke up to my male partner sodomising me without my consent...' would the discourse be different?
Consensual Non-Consent...I'm writing a piece about that. Found some interesting research about that. It's very common.
What is happening to humans?
This is really sad. Shows how disconnected we have become.
Online life is not helping physical society.
Just finished watching. Great video as always Zee
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Just discovered you! Damn the algorithm for keeping me from you for so long!! Thanks for bringing attention to so many niche topics