As Director Krennic would say, "It's beautiful!" There isn't a thing about your design that I don't like. I wouldn't mind adding a model of it to my collection. Well done!
It's amazing how the fan designed ships of the "New Trilogy" era look so much cooler and creative than what Disney has made. This is a prime example of what Disney could have done with their designs, instead they recolored old ships or made giant flying pizzas of doom. Great model EC Henry, it's design and thought process is truly astounding.
People still fall to this "fan designs are better so Disney sucks" fallacy. When you have a large enough fanbase (Which Star Wars definitely has) some fan designs are bound to be better than official designs. That doesn't prove anything about the officials designs being bad.
Disney has no creativity, most of the new ships you see in the recent films are taken from original concept art, for example the new x-wing design, is actually Ralph McQuarrie's original x-wing concept art.... some of the new books even have stolen art..... Though this is more on the fault of the licensee than Disney.
This is why the TIE is my all-time favourite ship design - it allows for so much variation and creative enhancement while still maintaining the TIE look/feel.
I love how the wings emulate the Y-wing's while remaining mostly identical to Kylo's. It fits that Star Wars design language of having a distinct look from others in its line while drawing on the TIE and Y-wing Bomber designs
Love this design, Practical and robust, enabling it to play roles in anti-fighter, anti-corvette and anti-capital ship operations. A good answer the the B-Wing bomber and is likely cheaper than the Tie Defender which plays to the Empire/First order doctrine of quantity over quality (though in this case i'd say this model is quality).
I would tilt the wings like 20 dagrees towards the top so the turret on the underside would have a better fireing arc from the two port/starbord sides so the wings arn't blocking the turret if that makes sence.
Fantastic work on the model man, I love how such small design choices lead to a wildly different look. It also kind of makes the First Order TIE Bomber to be a much more aggressive ship than the Empire's bomber, given that the First Order wants to re-conquer the galaxy, not just suppress it.
That is a sweet redesign, EC. Well done! Looking at your Rebel to Resistance designs, it seems you have kept the new canon philosophy of making the FO ships beefier than the Imperial ships, and the Resistance ships sleeker than the Rebel predecessors. (The latter is honestly something I'm not crazy about. I've never really cared for how the T-70 looks vs the T-65.) Regardless, keep up the great work, EC!
Beautiful as usual. If I may, I really think you should consider flipping the wings around. Like, rotate them 180 on the pylons so the gap is forward. Because your current design blocks all peripheral visibility for the pilot. That is what the gaps in Kylo Ren's fighter's wings address and fix. He can see to the sides out of his cockpit. Also, the little ion engines you have at the end of the pylons - those look like the exhaust would just melt that aft vertical piece of the wing right off as soon as they were fired up. Ion engines aren't just little red lights, as you know! They are essentially powerful particle beams! Like Iron Man's chest beam in the comics. The "rings" suspended aft of the exhaust on the Y-wings that inspired you are supposed to be magnetized flow directors, if I recall. They are supposed to change the shape of the exhaust and aid in steering. Your aft piece of wing doesn't have the articulated look like the rear of the Y-wing's engines have, that implies that. Currently, it just looks like part of the wing. A sad, scared, and doomed part of the wing! The only rule I have for fictional designs is -- make me feel like it works. Which is why your channel is one of my favorite subscriptions. Thanks for your carefully-considered designs.
I help with maintenance of a B-25J near where I live in South Saint Paul. It’s the Miss Mitchell and it’s the most authentic and complete B-25J in the world if I am correct, all of it’s seats are original b25 seats (where as one in Texas has a bench in it and 2 airline seats from a 737). And if what I see when I google b25 it’s might be the most popular/well known. Although it isn’t the close air support variant like the 25H you base your design off of, it’s still cool seeing you utilize something I know very well mechanically. And it’d have to say you nailed it pretty well.
I was thinking... with that empty space on the back end of the wings, couldn't you set a laser turret at the ends of the wing strut in a way that would allow them to shoot to the front (But not center), out to the sides, and then also to the rear through the gap to cover the bomber's 6 o'clock? Using computers to restrict fire to prevent it from hitting the solar panel strut at the wing tip?
Glad you did this. You gave it more life and logic than the ships in the movie. They all lasted 5 seconds, had little relevance and got poorly used in the plot. Thanks for your hard work. People like you keep the canon alive.
Just a friendly bit of feedback, you don't take things on yourself, you take things upon yourself. Great animations and information and conjecture! Excellent content as always!
i love that you know world war 2 aircraft and are staying true to GL's original vision of star wars being world war 2 in space in terms of combat mechanics.
The one change I would make is to extend the back of the ship a bit, and add a turret to this extension that could shoot through the holes in the wings to better defend the sides of the ship
The one thing I think would improve this is putting the turret on top instead of under. Particularly on a bombing run in Star Wars, interceptors trying to shoot it down would likely be attacking from above, not below. That said, aesthetically, this is a work of art.
Real live modern military planes and helis easily go with one person doing everything. Flying plane while simultaneously, fighting other planes, ground targets, firing countermeasures ect. No reason why sci fi ship could not do that.
That's what automation is for. Though flying an aircraft can be pretty overwhelming at the best of times (source: I fly light aircraft), it's usually pretty manageable, and I don't think this is going to be vastly more complex to fly than a fairly large number of real-world military craft. If a single pilot can handle an A-10 warthog, (have you SEEN the cockpit of one of those? 0_o), I'm sure they can manage one of these...
This design reminds me of WWII heavy fighter planes like the P-38 and the Mosquito. If the First Order had these in The Last Jedi those resistance bombers wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the dreadnought. Fantastic design I love it.
Yes there is guns on it, they are just all internal. If you look at the top section of the block joining up the 2 tubes of the TIE bomber, there is 2 rounded off squares, with a small hole in each, thats the cannons.
another advantage of opening up the backs of the solar panel wings is that now the swivel turret now has a greater firing arc so it can defend itself not just against fighters attacking directly from behind but also from a side angle
This is a great example of making a successor to a previous ship look different and yet still clearly based on the predecessor's design, unlike sequel trilogy's ties which just have a new paint job
This definitely feels like a sort of heavy CAS ship, with so many front facing guns and cannons, along with the payload capacity for bombs, missiles, and rockets. Like a space-Warthog
I really like so many things that you do with the time bomber, like the rear turret, the heavy laser cannons, and the shape and filled in middle that you did. The only thing I think is redundant is the wing mounted laser cannons. I think it has plenty of guns and armaments on your model and the wing ones are redundant. Love the videos man!
I would argue that the wingtip cannons are actually just fine, since they'd be for anti-starfighter use like the chin cannons. Since the TIE Bomber is likely going to be less maneuverable than any Starfighter it is shooting at, having a wider coverage on its smaller, faster weapons would be good; more chances of actually hitting the target without needing to out-turn it :)
One thing nice with the Star Wars Resistance show is that they are bringing in starfighters that we have not yet seen in the movies. This includes the T-85 X-Wing used by the New Republic, the First Order TIE Interceptor, and hopefully we will see other fighters like the First Order Bomber.
I like your design a lot and the wing evolution from the Silencer is excellent. That said I can't help but be remind that "The camel is a racehorse built by committee." You can't simultaneously say "I wanted to add small guns to shoot fighters" and "I put a turret on it because something that slow needs one." The turret makes sense. The heavy cannons to threaten corvette and fixed targets make sense. The chin and wing guns make no sense. Its "beefy" not nimble, so its not gonna be dogfighting. Their inclusion is pure weight drag and power drain to no effect and added cost that does not serve mission or likely deployment. I'd dump all six of the minor guns.
An amazing design! The only thing I would change is to put the turret behind the hull rather than below it. The way it is now, there's a huge blind spot at the rear, and the ship's basically defenseless when engaging in ground bombing such as at the very beginning of the video. Even placing the turret on top would provide more coverage in that situation.
PLEASE keep making these, your original designs are both thought-provoking and fun, adding to the appeal of Star Wars even if they're not canon (they should be though).
As a first year concept art student I really love this design and the thought process the and the beefier angular shape. it really does look like a well thought out formidable design
Now that we finally have a canon FO bomber courtesy of Resistance (or the comics, idk which came first), it's cool to see the similarities and differences between your design and Lucasfilm's. Both bombers have beefier centers, wing-tip blaster cannons, and a more aerodynamic look than the Imperial TIE/sa. Your bomber is more sleek (though the inverted interceptor-style wings of the canon design come close) and has much more firepower. For what it's worth though, I love both designs. And considering their are 74,000 TIE variants between canon and legends, I have no problem imagining both bombers in the service of the First Order.
I love this! It's terrifying to think of the damage this could do against both New Republic structures on the ground and capital ships. I would have made it have at least an Ion Cannon or two along with its heavy cannons, but other than that, it's armed pretty much to the teeth and looks amazing. I love the wing cut-outs, since they give it a stark visual contrast to the otherwise meh-looking FO Tie Bomber(canon) and Tie Fighter. The only other suggestion I have is it should have had a second turret on the top to provide full coverage against incoming fighters. I could see this thing screeching across a star battlefield, ripping up smaller ships with its turret and pounding at enemy capital ships with its heavy cannons and bombs. It would be kind of funny if the heavy cannons were more or less the same found on AT-ATs or Star Destroyers, which would fit the B-52-style you were going for. I can see this being a "Special Forces" or "Heavy TIE bomber" like the TIE Punisher.
1:54 may I ask why though? The in universe answer to why the interceptor and silencer wing has gaps like that is to expand the pilot’s peripheral vision from what he would otherwise have a harder time seeing in something like the standard LN
A space-faring tactical bomber inspired in part by my favorite Warbird, the B25? This is exactly what Star Wars needs. You never really see ships like this in the setting but there's a huge hole in pretty much everyone's fleets without it.
I really love that the wings on this design float towards the rear and get dangerously close to actually clearing the pilot's horizontal view if they were to have a more efficiently designed cockpit. I wish that even the basic TIEs would incorporate something like this, I wish that the ship designers for the new movies had actually used their brains and thought like they were trying to make an improved version of the older designs. It's a bit frustrating that the simply better layout of the TIE interceptor's wings haven't become standard across all fighters still, even though they're so much better.
The B-25 you’re taking about is the PBJ-1H which also was equipped other offensive armament including 8 12.7mm (0.5in) M2 browning mg. 4 in the nose and 4 in the cheeks below the cockpit.
Based on on the trailer and poster For Star Wars Resistance season 2 there is gonna be an official FO TIE Bomber. No good close up of it yet but the rear appears to be similar to a TIE Silencer, the ordnance pod seems to be smaller than the crew pod and the wing panels are bent outwards at a sharper angle.
Hey, thanks for designing this, i built a Lego version of it, and i have you to thank for such a great idea! I'll try to send a pic on Instagram or something, but I'll have a video uploaded today showing it off:) again, way awesome design!
Looks great. Suggestion: make the cockpit more angled and square like Kylo Ren's personal TIE. That could give First Order versions a more distinct look from Imperial versions aside from a color change.
Just discovered your channel, love the designs. Others have mentioned improvements to the rear facing turret, but I think the best improvement is to fully remove the central panel and move the turret to center of the bomber. That gives the turret a wide horizontal firing arc, and a wide vertical firing arc.
only thing i can think of is maybe the turret should be topside. when you turn you pull lots of Gs and its significantly easier on your body when you're "pulling up" since that produces positive Gs rather than pushing down which creates negative Gs that can almost immediately cause a "red out". But all in all, love it and pretty much everything else you've ever made
The wing cutouts are designed that way to avoid burning the control surfaces with exhaust gas. Coincidentally, the wing cutouts increase the effective coverage of the belly turret, conveniently allowing it to cover threats coming from slightly above the craft's level of flight. An arrestor gear mechanically disabled the turret from shooting through any part of the bomber itself. ? Good, yeah?
2:54 The classic TIE Bomber's original shooting model clearly doesn't have any guns under the cockpit (the traditional TIE gun location), but I'd always assumed those two circles in the central hull section (connecting the cockpit and bomb bay sections) were firing ports for the laser cannons.
I Love your Model, just like all of your Star Wars Models. *But* The only thing that i noticed is that your Model does not look like the Model seen in Episode 8. *But* That makes your Videos not Bad, your work is Great and i hope to see more ♡ First Order or Resistance Capital Ships Models would be breathtaking 😚
Dude, this isn't so much a Tie Bomber v2 as a whole new craft, like a Tie Devastator or a Tie Destroyer. I actually really like it. Really feels like more of a gun boat or a heavier weapons platform that's an intermediary between a light fighter and the firepower of a capital ship
Looks great! My only suggestion would be to position the turret on the rear of the craft instead of underneath. The turret would have a much better range of fire for defensive purposes there. With those forward facing extra guns and vela you cannons having the turret fire forwards would be unnecessary.
I love your designs and the backstories you create for them. They are well thought out backstories coupled with amazing designs. Honestly the only thing here I have concern with, the background colour on the screen. Lightening up the background around a very dark vehicle would let me see some of the details better. Outside of this, 100% loving the First Order Tie Bomber, dude ! 👍
Looks great. My only critique is that the turret has a very limited firing arc because of the wings. Also the wingtip blasters seem a bit redundant given the twin blasters and cannons in the hull. This a cool ship I love the angular look of the secondary hull and the cannons in between.
I think if you want to put a big turbolaser on a TIE bomber-like ship, then it needs to take up the entire secondary hull, like what we see on the TIE Brute or the bomber in Squadrons. Those little barbettes in the middle won't cut it.
Interesting design. The wing arrangement really makes me think of the earliest aircraft made for some reason, but also some of the twin-tail designs. It's got visual elements vaguely reminiscent of the Wright flyer, certain kinds of box kites, and something like a p-38 (the comparison to twin hull/tail boom aircraft is of course also aided by the fact that the tie bomber design already had a twin hull arrangement anyway.) Certainly very distinct visually, so... Overall, yeah. Really impressive.
The only thing I would change is an additional dorsal turret in addition to the ventral turret that it already has. Without it, it's vulnerable from above.
I believe that the tie silencer is the First Order's version of the imperial tie interceptor, as the imperial tie advanced had the same wing as the tie bomber.
Really cool looking and effective design, dude. I like it. It's kind of weird that the midsection guns can't really move, but if they happen to be anti capital ship cannons, that's perfect.
Star Was Resistance Season 2 has shown a new Tie fighter but it's hard to make it out from the back at a long distance. The first issue of the Allegiance comic series has shown the same Tie from a front angle and it appears to be the FO Tie Bomber. If that's the case then it's different from your design because it has Tie Interceptor wings with the white square at the back instead of at the front with a smaller hole in them. And although it's hard to make out from a distance and because of the art that has been chosen it's shown that the second cockpit window is round like it's predecessor rather than a hexagon like yours. The detail on the top is different but it's a comic so that can slide. Cant make out anything else that would make it similar or different from yours until we see it up close. Edit: It's been confirmed that it's a First Order Tie Bomber.
Nice Design. I would put the Turret on the Top of the Tie, so if it´s on the Ground or dockt to the outside of a ship, i could protect itself a little from Air/Space attacks.
I like this design a lot. I would modify it slightly though. I would remove the chin blasters and leave the wing blasters. Given the offset position of the cockpit, the only reason to have the chin blasters is to make it cheaper to build as it is similar to the standard First Order TIE fighters. While they would also have a wider field of fire towards the second hull, it seems anachronistic. I would also make this fighter at leaset a two person craft. If the special forces TIE is a two person craft, this could definitely use a second person as a combined navigator/weapons specialist/tailgunner. I assume this craft has a hyperdrive and offloading long range navigation to a second person (or a droid I suppose) would aid the pilot in accomplishing their misson.
Love the design, with the exception of the filled in wingtips at the back. I would like to see what it looks like without them. Alternatively, I think a wing profile like that of the Tie Aggressor would look really good on this ship.
Personally, I completely bought this as being an official design.
Coridimus same.
It's offical if you want to make it legends :P
To me, all his ship designs are canon.
looks just like a wider silencer lol
This ship is in the final episode of Star Wars resistance
That's hot. Close in resemblence to the orginal but extraordinarily differnt. Love it to death.
Just as it should be
Awesome design! I'd love to see it made canon.
They used it in empire at war yoden mod
hey, they just might at some point, the TIE Vector is now canon, renamed the TIE Dagger to make it a bit more threatening-sounding
aannnd there's a canon First Order Bomber
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/First_Order_TIE_bomber
Looks better than what we got
As Director Krennic would say, "It's beautiful!" There isn't a thing about your design that I don't like. I wouldn't mind adding a model of it to my collection. Well done!
It's amazing how the fan designed ships of the "New Trilogy" era look so much cooler and creative than what Disney has made. This is a prime example of what Disney could have done with their designs, instead they recolored old ships or made giant flying pizzas of doom.
Great model EC Henry, it's design and thought process is truly astounding.
Disney did not make it. It was Lucasfilm.
But Disney bought Lucasfilm so you can say that Disney made it.
People still fall to this "fan designs are better so Disney sucks" fallacy. When you have a large enough fanbase (Which Star Wars definitely has) some fan designs are bound to be better than official designs. That doesn't prove anything about the officials designs being bad.
@@ufukcangencoglu2279 I beg to differ, at least when Disney took over
Disney has no creativity, most of the new ships you see in the recent films are taken from original concept art, for example the new x-wing design, is actually Ralph McQuarrie's original x-wing concept art.... some of the new books even have stolen art..... Though this is more on the fault of the licensee than Disney.
This is why the TIE is my all-time favourite ship design - it allows for so much variation and creative enhancement while still maintaining the TIE look/feel.
I love your custom-made starfighters
I love how the wings emulate the Y-wing's while remaining mostly identical to Kylo's.
It fits that Star Wars design language of having a distinct look from others in its line while drawing on the TIE and Y-wing Bomber designs
I was just thinking about the first order's lack of a dedicated bomber this morning. Creepy!
DUDE. This might be my favorite TIE design ever, either official or fan-made. So beautiful, and meshes very well with what we have seen on-screen.
Nice design, like the way you approached it, comparing abilities to the B-25.
Love this design, Practical and robust, enabling it to play roles in anti-fighter, anti-corvette and anti-capital ship operations. A good answer the the B-Wing bomber and is likely cheaper than the Tie Defender which plays to the Empire/First order doctrine of quantity over quality (though in this case i'd say this model is quality).
I would tilt the wings like 20 dagrees towards the top so the turret on the underside would have a better fireing arc from the two port/starbord sides so the wings arn't blocking the turret if that makes sence.
The First Order bombers just got released
At least the real one isn’t just a recolored empire bomber
I think the real one looks pretty slick, too, to be honest. First of the First Order ships that I actually liked the look of.
I love this design, you never really see absence of space in tie designs, and that’s some thing that really could’ve made them cooler
That is so badass! The only thing I would do differently is put two of those turrets on it. One where you put it and one directly above it on the top.
The cutouts in the wings also made it finally possible to get a good firing arc for the rear facing cannons.
Fantastic work on the model man, I love how such small design choices lead to a wildly different look. It also kind of makes the First Order TIE Bomber to be a much more aggressive ship than the Empire's bomber, given that the First Order wants to re-conquer the galaxy, not just suppress it.
That is a sweet redesign, EC. Well done! Looking at your Rebel to Resistance designs, it seems you have kept the new canon philosophy of making the FO ships beefier than the Imperial ships, and the Resistance ships sleeker than the Rebel predecessors. (The latter is honestly something I'm not crazy about. I've never really cared for how the T-70 looks vs the T-65.) Regardless, keep up the great work, EC!
Beautiful as usual. If I may, I really think you should consider flipping the wings around. Like, rotate them 180 on the pylons so the gap is forward. Because your current design blocks all peripheral visibility for the pilot. That is what the gaps in Kylo Ren's fighter's wings address and fix. He can see to the sides out of his cockpit. Also, the little ion engines you have at the end of the pylons - those look like the exhaust would just melt that aft vertical piece of the wing right off as soon as they were fired up. Ion engines aren't just little red lights, as you know! They are essentially powerful particle beams! Like Iron Man's chest beam in the comics. The "rings" suspended aft of the exhaust on the Y-wings that inspired you are supposed to be magnetized flow directors, if I recall. They are supposed to change the shape of the exhaust and aid in steering. Your aft piece of wing doesn't have the articulated look like the rear of the Y-wing's engines have, that implies that. Currently, it just looks like part of the wing. A sad, scared, and doomed part of the wing!
The only rule I have for fictional designs is -- make me feel like it works. Which is why your channel is one of my favorite subscriptions. Thanks for your carefully-considered designs.
I help with maintenance of a B-25J near where I live in South Saint Paul. It’s the Miss Mitchell and it’s the most authentic and complete B-25J in the world if I am correct, all of it’s seats are original b25 seats (where as one in Texas has a bench in it and 2 airline seats from a 737). And if what I see when I google b25 it’s might be the most popular/well known. Although it isn’t the close air support variant like the 25H you base your design off of, it’s still cool seeing you utilize something I know very well mechanically. And it’d have to say you nailed it pretty well.
It's crazy how much more creativity comes out of a fan than a whole crew of people hired and paid
I was thinking... with that empty space on the back end of the wings, couldn't you set a laser turret at the ends of the wing strut in a way that would allow them to shoot to the front (But not center), out to the sides, and then also to the rear through the gap to cover the bomber's 6 o'clock? Using computers to restrict fire to prevent it from hitting the solar panel strut at the wing tip?
Glad you did this. You gave it more life and logic than the ships in the movie. They all lasted 5 seconds, had little relevance and got poorly used in the plot. Thanks for your hard work. People like you keep the canon alive.
Just a friendly bit of feedback, you don't take things on yourself, you take things upon yourself. Great animations and information and conjecture! Excellent content as always!
I can't help but look at those filled in wing tips, and immediately scream atmospheric YAW control.
i love that you know world war 2 aircraft and are staying true to GL's original vision of star wars being world war 2 in space in terms of combat mechanics.
The one change I would make is to extend the back of the ship a bit, and add a turret to this extension that could shoot through the holes in the wings to better defend the sides of the ship
I've always hated the look of the TIEs. All of them. Until now. Amazing work; this thing just screams badass.
The one thing I think would improve this is putting the turret on top instead of under. Particularly on a bombing run in Star Wars, interceptors trying to shoot it down would likely be attacking from above, not below.
That said, aesthetically, this is a work of art.
The center heavy guns are beautiful
The controlls in the cockpit must be a bit overwhelming.
add a co-pilot
If he is going with the Liberator/ WWII strat bomber philosophy I'd bet this thing has a crew of 3-4 (pilot, bombardier, navigator/comms, gunner )
aye in this config, seems you would need a pilot and gunner/bomber seating.
Real live modern military planes and helis easily go with one person doing everything.
Flying plane while simultaneously, fighting other planes, ground targets, firing countermeasures ect.
No reason why sci fi ship could not do that.
That's what automation is for.
Though flying an aircraft can be pretty overwhelming at the best of times (source: I fly light aircraft), it's usually pretty manageable, and I don't think this is going to be vastly more complex to fly than a fairly large number of real-world military craft.
If a single pilot can handle an A-10 warthog, (have you SEEN the cockpit of one of those? 0_o), I'm sure they can manage one of these...
This design reminds me of WWII heavy fighter planes like the P-38 and the Mosquito. If the First Order had these in The Last Jedi those resistance bombers wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the dreadnought. Fantastic design I love it.
Yes there is guns on it, they are just all internal.
If you look at the top section of the block joining up the 2 tubes of the TIE bomber, there is 2 rounded off squares, with a small hole in each, thats the cannons.
another advantage of opening up the backs of the solar panel wings is that now the swivel turret now has a greater firing arc so it can defend itself not just against fighters attacking directly from behind but also from a side angle
This is a great example of making a successor to a previous ship look different and yet still clearly based on the predecessor's design, unlike sequel trilogy's ties which just have a new paint job
This definitely feels like a sort of heavy CAS ship, with so many front facing guns and cannons, along with the payload capacity for bombs, missiles, and rockets. Like a space-Warthog
I really like so many things that you do with the time bomber, like the rear turret, the heavy laser cannons, and the shape and filled in middle that you did. The only thing I think is redundant is the wing mounted laser cannons. I think it has plenty of guns and armaments on your model and the wing ones are redundant. Love the videos man!
I would argue that the wingtip cannons are actually just fine, since they'd be for anti-starfighter use like the chin cannons. Since the TIE Bomber is likely going to be less maneuverable than any Starfighter it is shooting at, having a wider coverage on its smaller, faster weapons would be good; more chances of actually hitting the target without needing to out-turn it :)
One thing nice with the Star Wars Resistance show is that they are bringing in starfighters that we have not yet seen in the movies. This includes the T-85 X-Wing used by the New Republic, the First Order TIE Interceptor, and hopefully we will see other fighters like the First Order Bomber.
I like your design a lot and the wing evolution from the Silencer is excellent. That said I can't help but be remind that "The camel is a racehorse built by committee." You can't simultaneously say "I wanted to add small guns to shoot fighters" and "I put a turret on it because something that slow needs one." The turret makes sense. The heavy cannons to threaten corvette and fixed targets make sense. The chin and wing guns make no sense. Its "beefy" not nimble, so its not gonna be dogfighting. Their inclusion is pure weight drag and power drain to no effect and added cost that does not serve mission or likely deployment. I'd dump all six of the minor guns.
Love it.
I like it, it looks cool and it looks like something the First Order would use.
You did really well keeping the surface details visible when everything is coloured with shades of dark grey.
An amazing design! The only thing I would change is to put the turret behind the hull rather than below it.
The way it is now, there's a huge blind spot at the rear, and the ship's basically defenseless when engaging in ground bombing such as at the very beginning of the video. Even placing the turret on top would provide more coverage in that situation.
PLEASE keep making these, your original designs are both thought-provoking and fun, adding to the appeal of Star Wars even if they're not canon (they should be though).
As a first year concept art student I really love this design and the thought process the and the beefier angular shape. it really does look like a well thought out formidable design
Mr. EC Henry, you were mentioned, featured actually, on IO9. Great job.
Now that we finally have a canon FO bomber courtesy of Resistance (or the comics, idk which came first), it's cool to see the similarities and differences between your design and Lucasfilm's. Both bombers have beefier centers, wing-tip blaster cannons, and a more aerodynamic look than the Imperial TIE/sa. Your bomber is more sleek (though the inverted interceptor-style wings of the canon design come close) and has much more firepower. For what it's worth though, I love both designs. And considering their are 74,000 TIE variants between canon and legends, I have no problem imagining both bombers in the service of the First Order.
I wish you could send this idea to Disney and Lucasflim, I love it!
I second you sending this to Disney.
No no no so much NO
I love this! It's terrifying to think of the damage this could do against both New Republic structures on the ground and capital ships. I would have made it have at least an Ion Cannon or two along with its heavy cannons, but other than that, it's armed pretty much to the teeth and looks amazing. I love the wing cut-outs, since they give it a stark visual contrast to the otherwise meh-looking FO Tie Bomber(canon) and Tie Fighter. The only other suggestion I have is it should have had a second turret on the top to provide full coverage against incoming fighters. I could see this thing screeching across a star battlefield, ripping up smaller ships with its turret and pounding at enemy capital ships with its heavy cannons and bombs. It would be kind of funny if the heavy cannons were more or less the same found on AT-ATs or Star Destroyers, which would fit the B-52-style you were going for.
I can see this being a "Special Forces" or "Heavy TIE bomber" like the TIE Punisher.
Gorgeous! The spaces in the wing remind me of the P-38 Lightening or even the Wright brothers' plane haha
1:54 may I ask why though?
The in universe answer to why the interceptor and silencer wing has gaps like that is to expand the pilot’s peripheral vision from what he would otherwise have a harder time seeing in something like the standard LN
this ship seems like it whould be just as better in dogfights than the standard FO TIE, and that's not even its intended purpose!
A space-faring tactical bomber inspired in part by my favorite Warbird, the B25?
This is exactly what Star Wars needs. You never really see ships like this in the setting but there's a huge hole in pretty much everyone's fleets without it.
I love how smooth this ship looks. Less like a brick and more like a punisher
I really love that the wings on this design float towards the rear and get dangerously close to actually clearing the pilot's horizontal view if they were to have a more efficiently designed cockpit. I wish that even the basic TIEs would incorporate something like this, I wish that the ship designers for the new movies had actually used their brains and thought like they were trying to make an improved version of the older designs. It's a bit frustrating that the simply better layout of the TIE interceptor's wings haven't become standard across all fighters still, even though they're so much better.
The B-25 you’re taking about is the PBJ-1H which also was equipped other offensive armament including 8 12.7mm (0.5in) M2 browning mg. 4 in the nose and 4 in the cheeks below the cockpit.
Based on on the trailer and poster For Star Wars Resistance season 2 there is gonna be an official FO TIE Bomber. No good close up of it yet but the rear appears to be similar to a TIE Silencer, the ordnance pod seems to be smaller than the crew pod and the wing panels are bent outwards at a sharper angle.
I really like the nod to the Legends Scimitar Assault Bombers.
you need to be hired for some Star Wars show or upcoming movie(s) because your designs are incredible and worthy of official recognition
Awesome new TIE Bomber, looks like it could really stay in a fight.
Hey, thanks for designing this, i built a Lego version of it, and i have you to thank for such a great idea! I'll try to send a pic on Instagram or something, but I'll have a video uploaded today showing it off:) again, way awesome design!
Amazing!!! I love your ship designs, please continue uploading more of this!!
Looks great. Suggestion: make the cockpit more angled and square like Kylo Ren's personal TIE. That could give First Order versions a more distinct look from Imperial versions aside from a color change.
Just discovered your channel, love the designs. Others have mentioned improvements to the rear facing turret, but I think the best improvement is to fully remove the central panel and move the turret to center of the bomber. That gives the turret a wide horizontal firing arc, and a wide vertical firing arc.
only thing i can think of is maybe the turret should be topside. when you turn you pull lots of Gs and its significantly easier on your body when you're "pulling up" since that produces positive Gs rather than pushing down which creates negative Gs that can almost immediately cause a "red out". But all in all, love it and pretty much everything else you've ever made
The wing cutouts are designed that way to avoid burning the control surfaces with exhaust gas. Coincidentally, the wing cutouts increase the effective coverage of the belly turret, conveniently allowing it to cover threats coming from slightly above the craft's level of flight. An arrestor gear mechanically disabled the turret from shooting through any part of the bomber itself. ? Good, yeah?
2:54 The classic TIE Bomber's original shooting model clearly doesn't have any guns under the cockpit (the traditional TIE gun location), but I'd always assumed those two circles in the central hull section (connecting the cockpit and bomb bay sections) were firing ports for the laser cannons.
I Love your Model, just like all of your Star Wars Models.
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The only thing that i noticed is that your Model does not look like the Model seen in Episode 8.
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That makes your Videos not Bad, your work is Great and i hope to see more ♡
First Order or Resistance Capital Ships Models would be breathtaking 😚
Looks very much like something that I would be making hundreds of in the future with the right technology and materials.
I love this design, and the tie-in with the B-25 antishipping mods. Now we need to see your take on the TIE Defender.
Well done my friend I believe I've seen your TIE design in fan/concept art for the ST.
Awesome design and if you need an in universe reason rot the gaps in the side panels it's so the turret on the but can have a wider firing ark
Dude, this isn't so much a Tie Bomber v2 as a whole new craft, like a Tie Devastator or a Tie Destroyer. I actually really like it. Really feels like more of a gun boat or a heavier weapons platform that's an intermediary between a light fighter and the firepower of a capital ship
Looks great! My only suggestion would be to position the turret on the rear of the craft instead of underneath. The turret would have a much better range of fire for defensive purposes there. With those forward facing extra guns and vela you cannons having the turret fire forwards would be unnecessary.
I love your designs and the backstories you create for them. They are well thought out backstories coupled with amazing designs. Honestly the only thing here I have concern with, the background colour on the screen. Lightening up the background around a very dark vehicle would let me see some of the details better. Outside of this, 100% loving the First Order Tie Bomber, dude ! 👍
Cool, would like to see a making of, a tutorial or so. Watching you design and make something like this step by step.
Looks great. My only critique is that the turret has a very limited firing arc because of the wings. Also the wingtip blasters seem a bit redundant given the twin blasters and cannons in the hull. This a cool ship I love the angular look of the secondary hull and the cannons in between.
Looks like it could perform close air support very well. This reminds me a bit of an A-10.
OMG thank you Ive been wracking my mind over what a FO tie bomber would look like
Love your work.
IMHO maybe move rear engines farther apart, move turret closer to the rear so it can fire upwards to rear to cover a blind spot.
Gorgeous. Love the additional firepower it has. Definitely would not want a squadron of these barreling down on my ship if I was a starship captain.
I think if you want to put a big turbolaser on a TIE bomber-like ship, then it needs to take up the entire secondary hull, like what we see on the TIE Brute or the bomber in Squadrons. Those little barbettes in the middle won't cut it.
This design makes more sense than the one we got, good stuff!
Love it. It would be even cooler without the rectangular solar panels at the very back of the bomber holding the two curved solar panels together
Interesting design. The wing arrangement really makes me think of the earliest aircraft made for some reason, but also some of the twin-tail designs.
It's got visual elements vaguely reminiscent of the Wright flyer, certain kinds of box kites, and something like a p-38
(the comparison to twin hull/tail boom aircraft is of course also aided by the fact that the tie bomber design already had a twin hull arrangement anyway.)
Certainly very distinct visually, so...
Overall, yeah. Really impressive.
The only thing I would change is an additional dorsal turret in addition to the ventral turret that it already has. Without it, it's vulnerable from above.
I believe that the tie silencer is the First Order's version of the imperial tie interceptor, as the imperial tie advanced had the same wing as the tie bomber.
Really cool looking and effective design, dude. I like it. It's kind of weird that the midsection guns can't really move, but if they happen to be anti capital ship cannons, that's perfect.
You mean the two guns right in between the two hulls?
George Hamilton Yup
Well, he drew it from a real-life example of a stationary mounted gun, so I don't think it's much of a stretch of logic.
I personally compared the rear fins to the twin tails of classic bombers. Still looks fantastic.
Star Was Resistance Season 2 has shown a new Tie fighter but it's hard to make it out from the back at a long distance. The first issue of the Allegiance comic series has shown the same Tie from a front angle and it appears to be the FO Tie Bomber. If that's the case then it's different from your design because it has Tie Interceptor wings with the white square at the back instead of at the front with a smaller hole in them. And although it's hard to make out from a distance and because of the art that has been chosen it's shown that the second cockpit window is round like it's predecessor rather than a hexagon like yours. The detail on the top is different but it's a comic so that can slide. Cant make out anything else that would make it similar or different from yours until we see it up close.
Edit: It's been confirmed that it's a First Order Tie Bomber.
I need a Lego MOC of this so badly. Great job !
That's one of cools designs I have seen for a tie
love your designs always practical and beautiful
Nice Design. I would put the Turret on the Top of the Tie, so if it´s on the Ground or dockt to the outside of a ship, i could protect itself a little from Air/Space attacks.
Awsome! I would have made the large laser canons more... Present. I think they should be a bigger feature on this starship
I like this design a lot. I would modify it slightly though. I would remove the chin blasters and leave the wing blasters. Given the offset position of the cockpit, the only reason to have the chin blasters is to make it cheaper to build as it is similar to the standard First Order TIE fighters. While they would also have a wider field of fire towards the second hull, it seems anachronistic. I would also make this fighter at leaset a two person craft. If the special forces TIE is a two person craft, this could definitely use a second person as a combined navigator/weapons specialist/tailgunner. I assume this craft has a hyperdrive and offloading long range navigation to a second person (or a droid I suppose) would aid the pilot in accomplishing their misson.
I loved the bomber. Looks alot more dangerous than the original tie bomber.
TIE Devastator! That was the name that jumped out at me.
Love the design, with the exception of the filled in wingtips at the back. I would like to see what it looks like without them. Alternatively, I think a wing profile like that of the Tie Aggressor would look really good on this ship.