It absolutely blows my mind the wealth of knowledge you have and are willing to share. I have never once skipped even a second of your videos. They are literally a goldmine
Aaron is an absolute gold mine of information. Anytime I’m going to make a purchase, I check and see if he has a review on whatever it is I’m buying. Love your content Aaron! Keep it up
Thank you! Your technique, conservative adjustments steps, and detailed narrative are my now gold standard. Investing so much time for sharing knowledge vs. learning is greatly appreciated! Your videos in general are outstanding! Thanks again.
April, 2019: "Handgun ammunition isn't that expensive." October, 2020: "We are changing from five-shot strings to one-shot strings." ;) Thank you for this very informative video. I am pretty new to red dots and this helped me a lot.
Ammo is CRAZY. I just bought a Glock 19 and I didn't know about the ammo situation, while they were running me to buy the gun I was looking at ammo, i saw the G2 RIP ammo (60 bucks for 20) and i told the guy " man these bullets better kill my target without me aiming" and he looked at me like I was nuts, I then kept looking at the ammo seeing similar prices, I was like.... WTF???
In January 2020 you could buy a box 9mm fmj for less than $10.00 that same box today if you can find it is $60 to $70 Cheaper than dirt is robbing people blind best advise go to your store everyday a couple if you can
@@stratkiller2531 Please do no buy or carry that gimmicky RIP ammo. Get a good quality hollow point like Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, Hornady Critical Defense or something similar.
in the military we changed from 5 to 3. becaue the thought behind it is, if you cant hit it with 3, wont hit it with 5. save the 2 rounds add 1 round and adjust the group
Another great explanation and I got the first video. Since I have and MRO on my AR15 that I full co witness, I just zeroed the RMR directly not relying on slaving. Didn’t see the need to. Your videos helped me adjust to it very quickly and I appreciate it. “Raise the back plate to your nose and you will pick up the red dot”. The best tip!! Thanks Aaron.
All the more reason to be methodical in your zeroing process, as Aaron advocates. Tip: After zeroing for your carry ammo, get a good quality boresight laser cartridge, determine where the laser dot is with respect to your red dot optic at 25 yards, and make a note (usually they don’t exactly match up). Then, when you need to re-check zero (after an RMR battery change, for example) you can use the boresight to re-check the relative zero (relative to your actual red dot) and get closer with less ammo. In three years doing this sort of thing, I have yet to see any real zeroing change from mounting/dismounting RMR’s with well engineered mounting solutions and a calibrated torque wrench (using plates with precise RMR posts, mill jobs with precise RMR posts). Plates without posts, or direct-mill jobs without posts, or free-handing the bolts, will often require an actual re-zero. YMMV.
@@shinigami1925 why is the red dot zero different from what you co-witness with iron sights? (sorry for the dumb question) I'm guessing it is related to how you shoot vs where the sights point, but that would require your shooting to be very consistently away from where the sights line up, wouldn't it?
@@chtomlin Irons are regulated for 15 yards in my particular case. Some folks roll without irons at all (many gamers). So the bore laser solution is an independent means to solve the issue with less ammo.
Ammo was MORE expensive in 2020. Even range ammo was nearly 70¢ a round...at least we are down to 34-40. Carry ammo is another story...might have to move away from HST until it settles.
If I don’t have a sand bag on me I also use my zip lock bag filled with 9mm rounds in it for surprisingly good improvised stability. Great vid as always bro
I24gr federal American Eagle is very close to 124 gr gold dot in my VP 9 Thank you for making these videos they have been invaluable to me and many other shooters. I appreciate you sharing your wealth of knowledge
This came out at the perfect time. I just bought my first RMR (RM06) and as soon as the sights get here (friday) it's going on the gun. Another chunk of information right when I needed it 🤙🏻
The illustrations are a great idea. I've had a few people ask to look through my RMR equipped G19 at some local matches. First thing they do is line up the irons and comment that the dot is below. I try to explain. Still amazes me that people who couldn't imagine shooting a carbine without a dot can't open up their minds to shooting a pistol with a dot. I don't even waste my breath anymore, and exclusively refer people to your videos, whether it's for techniques like this one or tests of various dots.
I know someone who at first thought he had to flip up ONLY the front sight on his carbine to shoot, thinking he was supposed to put the dot on the front sight post to aim. It only took one shot after I had him lower the irons to see they were irrelevant when using a dot, so at least he wasn’t stubborn whatsoever, but still, who told him that?????? My point is just that yup, there’s a ton of confusion about optics out there, even decades into red dots.
@@f308gtb1977 I have 3 long guns with front sight towers that have dots...haha .. I don't even notice them anymore, just like the RMR housing on the pistol. Target focus is key.
thanks for the clarification. I actually commented on your last video when you said you should never slave your red dot to your iron sights and referenced an even earlier video when you said you should...now it makes sense. I really enjoy your videos. Your passion educating people really comes through. No ego or macho bullshit, I wold love to attend one of your training classes.
Thanks for this video, I am getting ready to do a glock mos build with a trijicon rmr hrs. I will definitely be watching this again when I get finished with the build.
In my experience, if you carry Federal 147 gr HST standard pressure than you can use speer lawman 147 gr or American eagle 147 gr (I believe they are they same loading - just different brands from the same manufacturer) for the intial zero and then only need to make make minor adjustments with HST, saving a significant amount of premium carry ammo. In the long run it may be worth finding a range ammo that performs similarly to your carry ammo just for this purpose.
Good tip... Fyi, Speer and American Eagle are brands owned by Federal Ammunition, which of course makes Federal HST as well.... Federal does now offer a “train and protect” package which gives you training fmj and hst of the same weight and is supposedly the same trajectory/velocity etc.
The crimp jump is what I look for in carry ammo, GOLD DOT is very good as far as that is concerned. THANKS FOR SHARING.... Saving lives, money ,and time, one video at a time....
Excellent method. Im old school and feel very at home w good iron sights. However a properly zeroed red dot is pretty damn incredible. Thank you for sharing. Used this w my optic cut. Thanks
Cleared up a lot for me …. i was struggling hard .. took your advice and fundamentals and in few days of practice….laying in some nice groups at 25 yards… Thanks ..
Mind briefly summing it up for me? Im kinda lost on how his Dot teleported to the middle of the glass on the last visual image at the end compared to the previous images
Thank you for this video. Definitely cleared up the bit of confusion that was left about zeroing a red dot, at least for me. Looks like I've got some range time when I get home!
Very informative update video. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I’m going to go back through my zero on my CZ P10C with an RMR while using this video to make sure it’s right. This year I’m going to make sure I take a handgun training course. I would love to take a carbine course also but I don’t think the funds will allow both. That will give me something to look forward to for next year.
Can’t thank you enough for these videos. I would be so lost using my rmr without them, and now see how I’ve been using other red dots incorrectly as well. It’s easy to see why people just give up trying, but I’d say they didn’t find your channel!🤙
Thank you for you insight into this! I started the slave process but didnt think about swapping out to the actual carry ammo, the thought never came to mind! This is why i love your videos, you make me think and point out when i dont! Cant wait to see you review the up coming Aimpoint ACRO sight to see how it compares to the tried and true RMR's.
Thank you I feel like I have a platform to go off of when I'm zeroing my holosun 507c on my glock 19 mos but I did mill the screw holes so there a little deeper so it will not come loose or move at all I've shot 2,500 rounds and so far so good so thank you earen I really appreciate the time that you take to put out such informational vids man 🙌🏼
@@roba168 Rob, I have a Holosun 507c and 507c v2 and I love both of them. I think its ridiculous that it went up like $80 for v2 for the battery compartment to be on top. Aaron very good videos on the Holosuns.
Thanks enjoyed I always have trouble zero n red dots I have noticed that slavering them to irons gets you close but not always right most people don’t realize that changing ammo brands change zero and wts affect too so thank you
I put 1" orange stickies on a target. Walk up to 3yds and shoot a few rounds (don't bother cowitnessing). Make COARSE adjustments. Check with 1-2 rds. Make another correction if necessary. Back up to 5yds, recheck. Adjust if necessary. At this point I'll back up to 15 or 25 for my final zero. The final zero I do just like you, from a flat top using a bag, 5-10 rd groups. The biggest difference is dealing with the frustration of trying to sight in a red dot from 25 at the beginning. It's hard to even see the hits at 25 (binos are good to have). Anyway, I tell people just start at 3yds and work backward. I'm convinced its quicker and less frustrating.
So much knowledge I had to watch your video at least 8 times...I had a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact of you using iron sites to start off but then magically the red dot appears in the center of the glass. How can iron sights and the red dot both be accurate but yet so far away from each other?...After the first illustration showing you using iron sights you said specifically “shoot using the red dot and keep it in the center of the glass”. That’s where it all made sense. Of course on the eighth time watching your video. Sorry for the long comment but you have a new subscriber and I appreciate all the knowledge.
Very well made video. Very helpful and informative. Getting ready to zero my new RMR HRS Type 2 onto a G17 Gen4. Thank you for this video. Wasn't sure if I needed to zero at 10 or 25. Also I am going to try the 10/25 yard target you showed, then move out to 25 yards using my carry ammo. I am brand new to running a red dot on a handgun. Wish me luck.
I hope a lot of newer shooters Subscribe, Like, Share, this gentleman provides a TON of great information for the handgun community for free HE KNOWS HIS SHIT
Thanks for posting this video and your video "Why you should never slave your red dot to the iron sights." Your videos were extremely helpful. By habit I had gotten it all wrong. I used the incorrect technique when I shot and placed the red dot on the front sight. On my next trip to the range, I will re-zero the red dot reflex sight and start with placing the red dot on the front sight and then when I bisect the dot I'll move on and continue the sight zeroing process by placing the red dot in the center of the lens window so that I will be able to shot by centering the red dot in the middle of in the window and place that red dot directly on the target.
Perfect timing, I’m going to set my new carry pistol this way. Another thing to mention. When ammo was more readily available, I would get a new firearm, I would get 6-8 different brands (same weight) of ammo to see what the pistol preferred. You can then see if that brand makes defense ammo (jhp). You would be surprised how many people run one ammo brand and assume the firearm is inaccurate.
I am a fan of your reviews and take your information to hart because of your extensive experience. I also feel your reviews are some of the most professional and informative I have seen anywhere on you tube and I have seen many. Your red dot info has been a huge help for me with my recent Wilson Combat order for a EDC X9 with a red dot system. I also sent in my WC 45cal in to have it machined for a red dot also. I'm older now, eyes are not as sharp as they use to be and love the targeting ease of the red dots. I went with the RMR type 2 for both and I'm anxiously waiting for their arrival. I originally ordered them with the Trijicon RSO, after I saw your review of the RSO, that completely let me know that was not going to work for me. I don't carry these for duty use but still want the most durable systems I can find. Again, love your work and thanks for sharing your expertise to a novice but working to improve that.
I got into pistol red RDS a year ago. I couldn't tell you how many people say that to co-witness the dot to the front sight is the correct way. I never did agree with that for all the reasons you stated. What I like best about RDS on different pistols I own is that the POA and POI is the same for every gun. With iron sights I have guns with a combat hold, center hold and my adjustable sights a 6 O'clock hold which I prefer. With a RDS I use the same hold on every firearm.
Aaron, thank you so much for this video. Lots of great info, answered every single question I was thinking of to zero my RMR equipped Glock 19 MOS. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.
For those wondering why the final illustration shows the dot high above the perfectly aligned iron sights, that is because the illustration is incorrect. The front sight should be slightly high in relation to the rear sight. The dot and sights would line back up if the pistol was slightly aimed down. It’s all a matter of perspective based on where the eye is in relation to the pistol. I posted this explanation in another thread: The final illustration is inaccurate because the iron sight alignment didn’t change, but the dot alignment did. The front sight should be slightly above the rear sight when the dot is up in the window. The dot is moving up because the pistol is being aimed slightly “up”, but the eye level is going with the dot. If you use a rifle with lower 1/3 irons, the same thing happens. You CAN perfectly co-witness the irons with the dot, but when actually using the dot, the irons will not be part of the sight alignment anymore.
I have a friend who has an RMR sighted pistol. It drives him crazy b/c it was zeroed slave to the irons. The red dot appears super low looking through his RMR. Is he using the sight incorrectly or is it incorrectly slaved too low to the irons?
Thank you. This was driving me crazy. I understand now. Even though the zero is under the front post, when tilting the firearm up to put the dot in the middle of the window, it is still zeroed under the front post. Just an optical illusion.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time! I'm about to purchase a Trijicon SRO, 5 MOA for a Glock 17, gen 5. This is strictly for competition shooting. I would choose the RMR for carry. This will be my first experience with Dots. Thanks for your help! Scott from Dallas, Tx.
THANK YOU!!!! Just picked up a SIG P320 X carry with a factory Romeo RDS at a steal right before the shtf with the Chinese flu and need to zero the thing - your video is Just what I need, especially now that ammo availability and cost are in the critical zone again!
I recently purchased a new firearm with a red dot sight factory installed. The instructions with the sight said that it was zeroed from the factory. I set up a target at 25 yards and fired 3. Checked the target and found no holes. Got a larger paper target. The gun shot 12 inches left and 8 inches low. I called the gun company customer support line and discussed this, and was told I had to co-witness the dot and the iron sights.
Just returned from zeroing my 10mm, or at least attempting to zero it. It's close, but still needs work. I was getting tired and sloppy. Wish I had found your video before I left.
Just found your channel. Eye opener! Recently picked up a S&W Victory 22 for use as a range gun because of ammo cost. Just mounted a Vortex Venom and really didn't know where to start. I'm thinking this is a less expensive way to learn red dots. I also have a S&W M&P 2.0 that has the slide cut and plates for red dot mounting. I'll be reviewing more of your videos for suggestions on what to get for it. Thanks for your time and no-nonsense info.
Great video and informative. I just received my first red dot for my Sig firearm and looking forward to taking your advise here on sighting it in.. thanks and look forward to others that you can help us out along the way to good shooting
So I think I misunderstood when I went to zero my 507k on my hellcat. I slaved the dot to my front post and then kept lining up my iron sites when I shot and adjusting. If I understand it correctly now, I should slave the dot to the front post and then center the dot in the window the best that i can and forget about the iron sights and adjust from there. Correct
124g nato 9mm has almost the exact same POI as 124 +p HST. Maybe an inch off. For anyone out there not wanting to spend 30 bucks every time you change your battery. Obviously verify with your carry ammo.
In the Marines we over correct our adjustments specifically not to waste time and ammo making small “conservative” adjustments. Our qualification with only irons is at 500 yards vs the Army’s 300 so we do alright.
In the screenshot of each position of the dot, it looks like the dot is moving lower on the front sight post, yet at the end of the video the dot is more or less centered on the target. Could you explain how that is?
Dude, you make zeroing a pistol RDS at 25yards looks easy. Especially just simply resting your grip on a bench. I have learned it's all about grip and trigger control, that's what everything always comes down to it seems. Fr though, a B8 target is a lot easier to hit X's at fifteen, but @ 25... True Test in handgun basics. Unless you use a cheating rest or something, but like you say, that's not going to be close in how you grip, or pull the trigger in a normal situation so I just don't see doing that way. Another transplant Georgia boy close to Atlanta, watched this & your other videos over again because simply, it pretty much the best informative content on social media. Wish I would've waited for a good closes emitter RDS now... Lol
@@MellowFellowOfYellow or maybe hee should respond to comments as questions are asked and if he tilted the firearm he should've shown that with the visually as well; Dumbfuck
Watching this in 2021, his quote “handgun ammunition in the grand scheme of things isn’t that expensive” Haha, I miss the good ole days when you didn’t pay almost a 1$ per 9mm bullet.
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I had to check when this aired when he said " handgun ammo in the scheme of things doesn't cost that much" yeah the good ole days lol
Welcome to Life as we know it in the rest of the World...
I did the same exact thing
Invest in reloading equipment and you can make a 50 round box of 9mm for 6-8 bucks....
@@Mab7n if you can find primers
@@Mab7n With what? Primers are rarer than cartridges at this point.
It absolutely blows my mind the wealth of knowledge you have and are willing to share. I have never once skipped even a second of your videos. They are literally a goldmine
Absolute FACT.
Aaron is an absolute gold mine of information. Anytime I’m going to make a purchase, I check and see if he has a review on whatever it is I’m buying. Love your content Aaron! Keep it up
Fully agree
Yes, waiting for Aaron's review of the new Holosun V2 optics before I buy one!
@@MrKlein83 I just bought one and I love it!!
Top shelf testing, observations & reasoning. The best on the internet.
He talked me into a trijicon RMR
This channel is so freaking underrated. Easily should be a 1mil+ subscribed channel.
Thank you! Your technique, conservative adjustments steps, and detailed narrative are my now gold standard. Investing so much time for sharing knowledge vs. learning is greatly appreciated! Your videos in general are outstanding! Thanks again.
April, 2019: "Handgun ammunition isn't that expensive."
October, 2020: "We are changing from five-shot strings to one-shot strings." ;)
Thank you for this very informative video. I am pretty new to red dots and this helped me a lot.
Ammo is CRAZY. I just bought a Glock 19 and I didn't know about the ammo situation, while they were running me to buy the gun I was looking at ammo, i saw the G2 RIP ammo (60 bucks for 20) and i told the guy " man these bullets better kill my target without me aiming" and he looked at me like I was nuts, I then kept looking at the ammo seeing similar prices, I was like.... WTF???
In January 2020 you could buy a box 9mm fmj for less than $10.00 that same box today if you can find it is $60 to $70 Cheaper than dirt is robbing people blind best advise go to your store everyday a couple if you can
@@stratkiller2531 Please do no buy or carry that gimmicky RIP ammo. Get a good quality hollow point like Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, Hornady Critical Defense or something similar.
in the military we changed from 5 to 3. becaue the thought behind it is, if you cant hit it with 3, wont hit it with 5. save the 2 rounds add 1 round and adjust the group
Watching this later. I’m going to start using red dots soon. Your videos on red dots are all saved for later. Thanks so much for these.
Another great explanation and I got the first video. Since I have and MRO on my AR15 that I full co witness, I just zeroed the RMR directly not relying on slaving. Didn’t see the need to. Your videos helped me adjust to it very quickly and I appreciate it. “Raise the back plate to your nose and you will pick up the red dot”. The best tip!! Thanks Aaron.
10:23 Yeah those were the days. August 2020 here.
All the more reason to be methodical in your zeroing process, as Aaron advocates. Tip: After zeroing for your carry ammo, get a good quality boresight laser cartridge, determine where the laser dot is with respect to your red dot optic at 25 yards, and make a note (usually they don’t exactly match up). Then, when you need to re-check zero (after an RMR battery change, for example) you can use the boresight to re-check the relative zero (relative to your actual red dot) and get closer with less ammo. In three years doing this sort of thing, I have yet to see any real zeroing change from mounting/dismounting RMR’s with well engineered mounting solutions and a calibrated torque wrench (using plates with precise RMR posts, mill jobs with precise RMR posts). Plates without posts, or direct-mill jobs without posts, or free-handing the bolts, will often require an actual re-zero. YMMV.
Shini Gami - great advice! Thanks for the input!
Didn't age well lol
@@shinigami1925 why is the red dot zero different from what you co-witness with iron sights? (sorry for the dumb question) I'm guessing it is related to how you shoot vs where the sights point, but that would require your shooting to be very consistently away from where the sights line up, wouldn't it?
@@chtomlin Irons are regulated for 15 yards in my particular case. Some folks roll without irons at all (many gamers). So the bore laser solution is an independent means to solve the issue with less ammo.
Aaron in 2020: "Handgun ammunition in the grand scheme of things isn't all that expensive."
Me in 2021: "It just cost me $25 to zero my red dot."
2019*
Anmo started getting expensive beginning of 2020.
25 for the range and 30 for ammo...
Ammo was MORE expensive in 2020. Even range ammo was nearly 70¢ a round...at least we are down to 34-40. Carry ammo is another story...might have to move away from HST until it settles.
I found some hst for a little over a buck a round and I bought 3 boxes. And my 10mm is like 35 bucks for 50 rounds
If it costs you that much to zero, than you have bigger problems.
Dude, you’re so clear. An outstanding teacher. Thank you.
If I don’t have a sand bag on me I also use my zip lock bag filled with 9mm rounds in it for surprisingly good improvised stability. Great vid as always bro
ziplock bag and rice
I would like to buy your Zip-loc of 9mm😅
This comment didn’t age well lol
I24gr federal American Eagle is very close to 124 gr gold dot in my VP 9 Thank you for making these videos they have been invaluable to me and many other shooters. I appreciate you sharing your wealth of knowledge
Bro Aaron, you are becoming the YT king of weapon and ammunition eduction. Love your content, deliverey, and knowledge of all your work.
This came out at the perfect time. I just bought my first RMR (RM06) and as soon as the sights get here (friday) it's going on the gun. Another chunk of information right when I needed it 🤙🏻
Thank you Aaron! I have a new Glock G45 with a 6.5 MOA RMR, taking it out tomorrow Gotta get it zeroed!! I appreciate the video more than you know.
New red dot guy. Hit the RUclips’s before I developed bad habits. This guys series on red dot issues is very helpful. Good job 👍.
The illustrations are a great idea. I've had a few people ask to look through my RMR equipped G19 at some local matches. First thing they do is line up the irons and comment that the dot is below. I try to explain. Still amazes me that people who couldn't imagine shooting a carbine without a dot can't open up their minds to shooting a pistol with a dot. I don't even waste my breath anymore, and exclusively refer people to your videos, whether it's for techniques like this one or tests of various dots.
I know someone who at first thought he had to flip up ONLY the front sight on his carbine to shoot, thinking he was supposed to put the dot on the front sight post to aim. It only took one shot after I had him lower the irons to see they were irrelevant when using a dot, so at least he wasn’t stubborn whatsoever, but still, who told him that??????
My point is just that yup, there’s a ton of confusion about optics out there, even decades into red dots.
@@f308gtb1977 I have 3 long guns with front sight towers that have dots...haha .. I don't even notice them anymore, just like the RMR housing on the pistol. Target focus is key.
thanks for the clarification. I actually commented on your last video when you said you should never slave your red dot to your iron sights and referenced an even earlier video when you said you should...now it makes sense. I really enjoy your videos. Your passion educating people really comes through. No ego or macho bullshit, I wold love to attend one of your training classes.
Thanks for this video, I am getting ready to do a glock mos build with a trijicon rmr hrs. I will definitely be watching this again when I get finished with the build.
Thank you so much man. I love your videos. I’ve been practicing with a pistol optic and it’s much more tricky than I thought it’d be.
Yes it is at first even coming from a rifle red dot, but after you get used to it you get much better easier and realize there's no going back 😂
In my experience, if you carry Federal 147 gr HST standard pressure than you can use speer lawman 147 gr or American eagle 147 gr (I believe they are they same loading - just different brands from the same manufacturer) for the intial zero and then only need to make make minor adjustments with HST, saving a significant amount of premium carry ammo. In the long run it may be worth finding a range ammo that performs similarly to your carry ammo just for this purpose.
Good tip...
Fyi, Speer and American Eagle are brands owned by Federal Ammunition, which of course makes Federal HST as well.... Federal does now offer a “train and protect” package which gives you training fmj and hst of the same weight and is supposedly the same trajectory/velocity etc.
My POI is very different when using federal 147g flat nosed fmj vs 147g HST!!!
@@gamebred5xthen use speerlawman, it’s the closest for me. Even 124
I didn't see your first video but came across this one which helped me a lot made more sense than other vids I seen thanks!!!!
The crimp jump is what I look for in carry ammo, GOLD DOT is very good as far as that is concerned.
THANKS FOR SHARING....
Saving lives, money ,and time, one video at a time....
Excellent method. Im old school and feel very at home w good iron sights. However a properly zeroed red dot is pretty damn incredible. Thank you for sharing. Used this w my optic cut. Thanks
Cleared up a lot for me …. i was struggling hard .. took your advice and fundamentals and in few days of practice….laying in some nice groups at 25 yards… Thanks ..
Mind briefly summing it up for me? Im kinda lost on how his Dot teleported to the middle of the glass on the last visual image at the end compared to the previous images
Thank you for this video. Definitely cleared up the bit of confusion that was left about zeroing a red dot, at least for me. Looks like I've got some range time when I get home!
Very informative update video. Thanks for taking the time to make this. I’m going to go back through my zero on my CZ P10C with an RMR while using this video to make sure it’s right. This year I’m going to make sure I take a handgun training course. I would love to take a carbine course also but I don’t think the funds will allow both. That will give me something to look forward to for next year.
Can’t thank you enough for these videos. I would be so lost using my rmr without them, and now see how I’ve been using other red dots incorrectly as well. It’s easy to see why people just give up trying, but I’d say they didn’t find your channel!🤙
“Handgun ammunition isn’t that expensive”
2021 enters the chat
Welcome to the future…2024 enters the chat😅
I knew what you meant about slaving your dot to the irons as a starting point for your zero👍🏻 thank you for the videos
Thank you for you insight into this! I started the slave process but didnt think about swapping out to the actual carry ammo, the thought never came to mind! This is why i love your videos, you make me think and point out when i dont! Cant wait to see you review the up coming Aimpoint ACRO sight to see how it compares to the tried and true RMR's.
Great video, brother! I’m excited to up my RDS pistol game after years of shooting rifle and sub gun RDS’s. . . Don’t get old!
Great video that goes step by step on the zeroing of a handgun optic. Thank you foe the knowledge.
Wow! This is the best video I have seen on zeroing the red dot. Thanks!
Thank you I feel like I have a platform to go off of when I'm zeroing my holosun 507c on my glock 19 mos but I did mill the screw holes so there a little deeper so it will not come loose or move at all I've shot 2,500 rounds and so far so good so thank you earen I really appreciate the time that you take to put out such informational vids man 🙌🏼
Charles hood how are you liking that optic I been thinking about getting it over the Trijicon
@@roba168 Rob, I have a Holosun 507c and 507c v2 and I love both of them. I think its ridiculous that it went up like $80 for v2 for the battery compartment to be on top. Aaron very good videos on the Holosuns.
EXCELLENT AN EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE VIDEO!!!!!! Very helpful and needed.
Once again Sage Dynamics always puts great content. This Scholar really breaks down the Schematics and the Science ❤ it 🥳
Thanks enjoyed I always have trouble zero n red dots I have noticed that slavering them to irons gets you close but not always right most people don’t realize that changing ammo brands change zero and wts affect too so thank you
Thank you for the info. I’m new to using RMR and this is very helpful.
I put 1" orange stickies on a target. Walk up to 3yds and shoot a few rounds (don't bother cowitnessing). Make COARSE adjustments. Check with 1-2 rds. Make another correction if necessary. Back up to 5yds, recheck. Adjust if necessary. At this point I'll back up to 15 or 25 for my final zero. The final zero I do just like you, from a flat top using a bag, 5-10 rd groups. The biggest difference is dealing with the frustration of trying to sight in a red dot from 25 at the beginning. It's hard to even see the hits at 25 (binos are good to have). Anyway, I tell people just start at 3yds and work backward. I'm convinced its quicker and less frustrating.
Jack Lapham, I do almost the same thing, and I agree about reducing frustration!
Great video took me a little bit.. but i have her down now… Thanks for the video.. 1 1/2 inch groups 25 yards .
So much knowledge I had to watch your video at least 8 times...I had a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact of you using iron sites to start off but then magically the red dot appears in the center of the glass. How can iron sights and the red dot both be accurate but yet so far away from each other?...After the first illustration showing you using iron sights you said specifically “shoot using the red dot and keep it in the center of the glass”. That’s where it all made sense. Of course on the eighth time watching your video. Sorry for the long comment but you have a new subscriber and I appreciate all the knowledge.
Thank you this will hopefully help ALOT i got frustrated and took my reflex off because i couldnt figure out sighting it in
Thank you. I look forward to applying these amazing concepts!
Very well made video. Very helpful and informative. Getting ready to zero my new RMR HRS Type 2 onto a G17 Gen4. Thank you for this video. Wasn't sure if I needed to zero at 10 or 25. Also I am going to try the 10/25 yard target you showed, then move out to 25 yards using my carry ammo. I am brand new to running a red dot on a handgun. Wish me luck.
So how did it end up going for you?
Your fckn great at what you do. LOVE your videos bro! Please don’t stop making them
Thanks Aaron for the knowledge an how to sight in my Red Dot on my handgun Sir.
Just got my first red dot! Exactly what I needed to know
Second time watching this video. It gets better every time I watch it.
Thank you for the video! Very knowledgeable. I enjoy your content 🇺🇸
I hope a lot of newer shooters Subscribe, Like, Share, this gentleman provides a TON of great information for the handgun community for free HE KNOWS HIS SHIT
Thanks for posting this video and your video "Why you should never slave your red dot to the iron sights." Your videos were extremely helpful. By habit I had gotten it all wrong. I used the incorrect technique when I shot and placed the red dot on the front sight. On my next trip to the range, I will re-zero the red dot reflex sight and start with placing the red dot on the front sight and then when I bisect the dot I'll move on and continue the sight zeroing process by placing the red dot in the center of the lens window so that I will be able to shot by centering the red dot in the middle of in the window and place that red dot directly on the target.
I just zeroed my my g19 mos at 25 yards. With 115 grain ammo. Then make impacts at 100 yards. I like that 25 yard zero
Aaron you absolutely rock! Thanks for posting this as I am about to setup my first pistol with a dot and this will help tremendously.
Good info. Thanks for the reminder to check your carry ammo. 👍🏽
Perfect timing, I’m going to set my new carry pistol this way. Another thing to mention. When ammo was more readily available, I would get a new firearm, I would get 6-8 different brands (same weight) of ammo to see what the pistol preferred. You can then see if that brand makes defense ammo (jhp).
You would be surprised how many people run one ammo brand and assume the firearm is inaccurate.
I am a fan of your reviews and take your information to hart because of your extensive experience. I also feel your reviews are some of the most professional and informative I have seen anywhere on you tube and I have seen many.
Your red dot info has been a huge help for me with my recent Wilson Combat order for a EDC X9 with a red dot system. I also sent in my WC 45cal in to have it machined for a red dot also.
I'm older now, eyes are not as sharp as they use to be and love the targeting ease of the red dots. I went with the RMR type 2 for both and I'm anxiously waiting for their arrival.
I originally ordered them with the Trijicon RSO, after I saw your review of the RSO, that completely let me know that was not going to work for me. I don't carry these for duty use but still want the most durable systems I can find.
Again, love your work and thanks for sharing your expertise to a novice but working to improve that.
Awesome video. Extremely informative and common sense!
I got into pistol red RDS a year ago. I couldn't tell you how many people say that to co-witness the dot to the front sight is the correct way. I never did agree with that for all the reasons you stated.
What I like best about RDS on different pistols I own is that the POA and POI is the same for every gun. With iron sights I have guns with a combat hold, center hold and my adjustable sights a 6 O'clock hold which I prefer. With a RDS I use the same hold on every firearm.
Aaron, thank you so much for this video. Lots of great info, answered every single question I was thinking of to zero my RMR equipped Glock 19 MOS. Thanks again, and keep up the great work.
I'm definitely going to try your zero technique as soon as I get to the range with my new RDS. Thanks for the knowledge👍
Good info. I was confused the other day at the range on how to properly zero the Holosun 509t on my FN 509t.
Great video on just what I needed when I needed it! I just subscribed! The knowledge you have is incredible. Thanks!
For those wondering why the final illustration shows the dot high above the perfectly aligned iron sights, that is because the illustration is incorrect. The front sight should be slightly high in relation to the rear sight. The dot and sights would line back up if the pistol was slightly aimed down. It’s all a matter of perspective based on where the eye is in relation to the pistol.
I posted this explanation in another thread: The final illustration is inaccurate because the iron sight alignment didn’t change, but the dot alignment did. The front sight should be slightly above the rear sight when the dot is up in the window. The dot is moving up because the pistol is being aimed slightly “up”, but the eye level is going with the dot. If you use a rifle with lower 1/3 irons, the same thing happens. You CAN perfectly co-witness the irons with the dot, but when actually using the dot, the irons will not be part of the sight alignment anymore.
tv92taylor i was just about to ask about this then i seen this thanks for clarifying 👍
I have a friend who has an RMR sighted pistol. It drives him crazy b/c it was zeroed slave to the irons. The red dot appears super low looking through his RMR. Is he using the sight incorrectly or is it incorrectly slaved too low to the irons?
Sami S he is using it wrong. Tell him to watch Aaron’s videos. Worth it.
Thank you. This was driving me crazy. I understand now. Even though the zero is under the front post, when tilting the firearm up to put the dot in the middle of the window, it is still zeroed under the front post. Just an optical illusion.
Im still slightly lost; So do I sight my handgun in slightly tilted up or what?
Great video! Thanks for taking the time! I'm about to purchase a Trijicon SRO, 5 MOA for a Glock 17, gen 5. This is strictly for competition shooting. I would choose the RMR for carry. This will be my first experience with Dots. Thanks for your help! Scott from Dallas, Tx.
Amazing, highly detailed video, thank you
THANK YOU!!!! Just picked up a SIG P320 X carry with a factory Romeo RDS at a steal right before the shtf with the Chinese flu and need to zero the thing - your video is Just what I need, especially now that ammo availability and cost are in the critical zone again!
I recently purchased a new firearm with a red dot sight factory installed. The instructions with the sight said that it was zeroed from the factory. I set up a target at 25 yards and fired 3. Checked the target and found no holes. Got a larger paper target. The gun shot 12 inches left and 8 inches low. I called the gun company customer support line and discussed this, and was told I had to co-witness the dot and the iron sights.
Just returned from zeroing my 10mm, or at least attempting to zero it. It's close, but still needs work. I was getting tired and sloppy. Wish I had found your video before I left.
Aaron great video. Only request would be to have a few shots of your setup on the bench or standing technique for zeroing.
Best rmr zero video on RUclips!
THIS is exactly what I needed...thanks so much.
Now I just need to find an optic specific handgun class near me.
Just found your channel. Eye opener! Recently picked up a S&W Victory 22 for use as a range gun because of ammo cost. Just mounted a Vortex Venom and really didn't know where to start. I'm thinking this is a less expensive way to learn red dots. I also have a S&W M&P 2.0 that has the slide cut and plates for red dot mounting. I'll be reviewing more of your videos for suggestions on what to get for it. Thanks for your time and no-nonsense info.
Great info for me as I am getting my 1st RMR for. Glock very soon.
You will love it, Doug, I got 1 for my wife it's so amazing ill be getting 1 for myself.
Great video and informative. I just received my first red dot for my Sig firearm and looking forward to taking your advise here on sighting it in.. thanks and look forward to others that you can help us out along the way to good shooting
thanks for the lesson. I'm new to shooting and this helped
I zeroed at 12 yds using a bore laser at bench rest, worked really well.
Well said! Made tight - tighter!
"you can't fix bad mechanics with equipment" Spoken truth
Outstanding vid, Thank you👍
Nice video. Worked like a charm!
Excellent video.
So I think I misunderstood when I went to zero my 507k on my hellcat. I slaved the dot to my front post and then kept lining up my iron sites when I shot and adjusting.
If I understand it correctly now, I should slave the dot to the front post and then center the dot in the window the best that i can and forget about the iron sights and adjust from there. Correct
I was wondering the same thing.... from what he says its what it seems you should do...
Yes
This video addressed my question clearly,concisely and comprehensively. Only an idiot wouldn't hit the subscribe button.
Watching these videos help again and again. Where are his recent vids?
My go to channel 👍
Great information, thank you
124g nato 9mm has almost the exact same POI as 124 +p HST. Maybe an inch off. For anyone out there not wanting to spend 30 bucks every time you change your battery. Obviously verify with your carry ammo.
Good tip, thanks.
Thanks for the info. Looking at getting my first pistol optic for ccw.
Great information like usual. Thank you
In the Marines we over correct our adjustments specifically not to waste time and ammo making small “conservative” adjustments. Our qualification with only irons is at 500 yards vs the Army’s 300 so we do alright.
Thank you. Love your videos. Faithful subscriber.
Just picked up a Romeo Zero for 365XL and Vortex Viper for SW Victory. Great video!
Thank you very much for this video!!
In the screenshot of each position of the dot, it looks like the dot is moving lower on the front sight post, yet at the end of the video the dot is more or less centered on the target. Could you explain how that is?
same here, I'm confused as to why the dot was moved way high up after the final zero
Dude, you make zeroing a pistol RDS at 25yards looks easy. Especially just simply resting your grip on a bench. I have learned it's all about grip and trigger control, that's what everything always comes down to it seems. Fr though, a B8 target is a lot easier to hit X's at fifteen, but @ 25... True Test in handgun basics. Unless you use a cheating rest or something, but like you say, that's not going to be close in how you grip, or pull the trigger in a normal situation so I just don't see doing that way. Another transplant Georgia boy close to Atlanta, watched this & your other videos over again because simply, it pretty much the best informative content on social media. Wish I would've waited for a good closes emitter RDS now... Lol
where is the adjustment part? where it is shown actually zero-in the red dot? I don't get it
Ya this video just leaves more questions then answers. I wish somebody would actually show each step by step on the actual red dot
Incredibly low brain power in these comments lol. You guys sure you should own guns?
@@MellowFellowOfYellow many gun owners are new to red dot.
@@MellowFellowOfYellow or maybe hee should respond to comments as questions are asked and if he tilted the firearm he should've shown that with the visually as well; Dumbfuck
Watching this in 2021, his quote “handgun ammunition in the grand scheme of things isn’t that expensive”
Haha, I miss the good ole days when you didn’t pay almost a 1$ per 9mm bullet.
Great video btw thanks!
Another amazing banger.