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One other feature that i've overlooked too much until recently is the mod depth and rate in some of them (like in valhalla supermassive). Whenever I set reverb I need to take my time and just set everything just right (although the density feature in some reverbs can be frustratingly subtle). Especially if its a massive reverb, I have the mentality of treating it with the same level of care I give to the signal I'm feeding into it, and that also allows me to be more creative as a bonus. I like the way you've organized and communicated things in this video, one thing to watch out for though is that beginners may struggle a little bit to pick out the before/after differences, it's not that bad in this video but It would be good to include things like comparing the reverb eq off vs the eq on, and maybe even using a pre-effect eq vs the same eq but in post-effect (although that would need a good example). I'm actually still personally trying to make sense of the differences myself, I'm doing null tests and on some signals it seems theres no difference between pre and post, but that likely depends on the reverb used (I used valhalla supermassive with 0 mod depth as the mod messed with the null) and what signal is going into the reverb. Either way, I do like the approach of separating the basic lp hp from the more fiddly surgical notching. (oh also, theoretically I just realized pre-eq could be used to eq some of the signals as they get sent to the reverb but not others)
Thanks for the feedback! Yes good idea for more before and after, as a mastering engineer everything I do is so subtle - easy to take for granted that others might not hear it😅 Yeah it's pretty impressive how much small differences in the mod and feedback controls can really transform a reverb - I tend to just use the one preset I know well, avoid touching those controls and just use volume and EQ to blend - a bit more of a "brute force" approach than yours, hehe. But then again it's kind of part of my "sound", so I treat it like an instrument in itself, rather than in a supporting role - I tend to add processing on top of it as well. When you say pre-EQ could be used to EQ some signals, but not others - what do you mean? I usually add it directly before the reverb, so it _should_ capture everything that's fed into it - right? The only thing it won't capture is the internal feedback.
@@holosuitemastering lets say hypothetically you didn't like the way the low or high end of one signal sounded through the reverb (and you don't want to eq the dry part of it), but you were ok with the way it sounded on other signals coming through, you could send just that one to a channel that just had that eq and then that channel can be sent to reverb, or at least that's how I would do it in fl studio. Also yeah that's kinda what I meant too; like an instrument.
Ah right I see what you mean! That sounds fiddly but definitely a good way to avoid cutting out the high end on everything, if it's just one instrument causing the trouble.
Great video Marcus (and great name!). What's your opinion on using reverbs on busses for glueing tracks together? Currently working on an ambient(ish) album and I am really struggling with the reverbs. Getting it to sound big without the muddiness. This video will surely help.
Thanks so much for watching! I often use a small amount of reverb on a mix bus or in a master - as little as 2-5% wet can do a great job without causing too many issues. I would caution against going for more than 10% wet unless you want to make the mix sound drowned in reverb (which is totally fine if that's what you're going for!). Please share your album when it's done! 😊
Aa Ableton Live works in a different way to Logic Pro (which I use), can I ask how you would set this chain up using Logic Pro? Do you put Valhalla on a separate bus with an eq BEFORE Valhalla, and a second instance of an eq AFTER Valhalla? Best wishes...
@@holosuitemastering Thank you so much for getting back to me so rapidly. Very much appreciated and thank you for such an insightful and useful video. Superb!!!
keep doing your vids, don't give up on them please. I really want to make some day adoption/reaction videos of your things fully translated to the FL studio interface
Bro you are out of everything what eq your reverb , if you check the reverb has cut low cut high this is an eq for reverb and i have seen gated reverbs for what reson shoul i use gated reverb when the decay do the same job
Thanks for watching! Gated reverb is usually best for mixing against tracks with a lot of sharp transients like drums. It can also be used for creative effects such as Phil Collins' trademark drum sound. It needs those transients to act as the trigger for the gate, so for music like ambient, with minimal transients, it often has difficulty working smoothly - which is why I prefer just to use static processing like EQ.
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One other feature that i've overlooked too much until recently is the mod depth and rate in some of them (like in valhalla supermassive). Whenever I set reverb I need to take my time and just set everything just right (although the density feature in some reverbs can be frustratingly subtle). Especially if its a massive reverb, I have the mentality of treating it with the same level of care I give to the signal I'm feeding into it, and that also allows me to be more creative as a bonus.
I like the way you've organized and communicated things in this video, one thing to watch out for though is that beginners may struggle a little bit to pick out the before/after differences, it's not that bad in this video but It would be good to include things like comparing the reverb eq off vs the eq on, and maybe even using a pre-effect eq vs the same eq but in post-effect (although that would need a good example). I'm actually still personally trying to make sense of the differences myself, I'm doing null tests and on some signals it seems theres no difference between pre and post, but that likely depends on the reverb used (I used valhalla supermassive with 0 mod depth as the mod messed with the null) and what signal is going into the reverb.
Either way, I do like the approach of separating the basic lp hp from the more fiddly surgical notching.
(oh also, theoretically I just realized pre-eq could be used to eq some of the signals as they get sent to the reverb but not others)
Thanks for the feedback! Yes good idea for more before and after, as a mastering engineer everything I do is so subtle - easy to take for granted that others might not hear it😅
Yeah it's pretty impressive how much small differences in the mod and feedback controls can really transform a reverb - I tend to just use the one preset I know well, avoid touching those controls and just use volume and EQ to blend - a bit more of a "brute force" approach than yours, hehe. But then again it's kind of part of my "sound", so I treat it like an instrument in itself, rather than in a supporting role - I tend to add processing on top of it as well.
When you say pre-EQ could be used to EQ some signals, but not others - what do you mean? I usually add it directly before the reverb, so it _should_ capture everything that's fed into it - right? The only thing it won't capture is the internal feedback.
@@holosuitemastering lets say hypothetically you didn't like the way the low or high end of one signal sounded through the reverb (and you don't want to eq the dry part of it), but you were ok with the way it sounded on other signals coming through, you could send just that one to a channel that just had that eq and then that channel can be sent to reverb, or at least that's how I would do it in fl studio.
Also yeah that's kinda what I meant too; like an instrument.
Ah right I see what you mean! That sounds fiddly but definitely a good way to avoid cutting out the high end on everything, if it's just one instrument causing the trouble.
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Amazing tutorial, thanks for doing this.
Glad it was helpful! 🙂
Thanks for sharing this.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
cheers
This is essential stuff and you explain and demonstrate it well.
Thank you so much for the kind words! ☺
Somehow I love the reverb's solo/wet sound here! So soft and wide, without that sharp synth sound tiring my ears.
Apologies for the ear fatigue - I was lazy and didn't try to EQ down the top end for the video. Supermassive is a lovely verb!
Agreed, it sounds great.
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. 👍 🎵
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Great video Marcus (and great name!).
What's your opinion on using reverbs on busses for glueing tracks together?
Currently working on an ambient(ish) album and I am really struggling with the reverbs. Getting it to sound big without the muddiness. This video will surely help.
Thanks so much for watching! I often use a small amount of reverb on a mix bus or in a master - as little as 2-5% wet can do a great job without causing too many issues. I would caution against going for more than 10% wet unless you want to make the mix sound drowned in reverb (which is totally fine if that's what you're going for!).
Please share your album when it's done! 😊
nice one!
Thank you! Cheers!
Aa Ableton Live works in a different way to Logic Pro (which I use), can I ask how you would set this chain up using Logic Pro? Do you put Valhalla on a separate bus with an eq BEFORE Valhalla, and a second instance of an eq AFTER Valhalla? Best wishes...
Thanks so much for watching! Yes, exactly as you say - put Valhalla on a bus, then add an EQ before and/or after as needed😊
@@holosuitemastering Thank you so much for getting back to me so rapidly. Very much appreciated and thank you for such an insightful and useful video. Superb!!!
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keep doing your vids, don't give up on them please.
I really want to make some day adoption/reaction videos of your things fully translated to the FL studio interface
Thanks so much for the support! That would be awesome, I don't have a lot of knowledge about FL studio 🙂
Bro you are out of everything what eq your reverb , if you check the reverb has cut low cut high this is an eq for reverb and i have seen gated reverbs for what reson shoul i use gated reverb when the decay do the same job
Thanks for watching! Gated reverb is usually best for mixing against tracks with a lot of sharp transients like drums. It can also be used for creative effects such as Phil Collins' trademark drum sound. It needs those transients to act as the trigger for the gate, so for music like ambient, with minimal transients, it often has difficulty working smoothly - which is why I prefer just to use static processing like EQ.
Nice love this 😊
Thank you! 😊