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True, but they were mostly fine with her coming on, though they let Christine have the final say. The meeting at the restaurant sealed the deal as the two got on well.
Lindsey, Stevie, and Christine are NOT original members. They were part of the “classic” lineup that made all the hit records starting in 1975. Fleetwood Mac formed in 1967.
Tell you the truth I think lindsey buckingham and stevie nicks voices are like they were I know stevies got really bad I so her she sounds terrible and lindsey does too bad lindsey and his wife patch things up so there you have it and it true if wasn't for lindsey buckingham stevie nicks would still be waitress at restaurants because mick fleetwood just wanted lindsey for his guitar work he did not want another woman in the band but lindsey said if you want me you have to take my girlfriend too stevie nicks.
I just did a video on Stevie Nicks haha 😆 Personally, I don't take sides. I love what each of them brought to Fleetwood Mac 🙌🏾🎸🙌🏾 As always, great presentation, Adam!
@@whitetail_hunter71 Mike Campbell is a great guitarist but he is just a simple replacement. If Lyndsey and Stevie had not joined they would have folded long ago
Stevie was jealous that Lindsey was finally not chasing her .He moved on ,got married and had two daughters .Stevie was and is a flirtatious women who loved to have guys chase after her .The one that got away story!
@rickypilcher3618 Not. Saying every group is hot, but I'm sure it Lindsey.Buckingham got the Hot ones. The majority of rocks stars are not very hot. Please don't tell me tom petty is hot.
God you people are insufferable! She didn’t fire anyone….the band fired Lindsey. Stevie simply said she would not go on stage with Lindsey, she has every right to not want to work with a toxic abuser.
The relationship between Buckingham Nicks lasted 20 years longer than it was supposed to. By the way, Nicks didn’t fire Buckingham, she asked the band to choose.
Nicks owes the opportunity for success to Lindsey Buckingham. Mac wanted him(only), he told them it was both he and Nicks or no deal. The rest is her version of everything.
Well, it’s hard to bring anything to the table if you’re not even asked to SIT at the table. Lindsey insisted Stevie be brought in or he wouldn’t join. She has talent and can write songs, but her voice, while unique, isn’t the level of say Linda R. or Bonnie Raitt. Buckingham is a great guitar player with a vision. Yes, they both helped make Fleetwood Mac a household name in the Seventies.
@@glennburch1081 The Stevie Nicks we know now was not the one who Lindsey brought with him. Nice voice and some good lyrics, but no musical knowledge or experience singing in big venues. She was a drag for those first few years, and Lindsey insisted she stay and they work with her. The band built her into what she became. It doesn't make her less of a performer. It does mean she owed Lindsey something better than a knife in the back.
Buckingham saved FM from obscurity in the mid 70's. She wouldn't have even been in the band if Lindsay didn't make that ultimatum that he wouldn't join without her. He made her songs better than anyone else could. I think they were just milking the name for the last few years. Just stop. There is no tomorrow.
For musicians out there in their millions (and MANY talented ones by the way) who only did so much and only went so far, they really don't like to hear the all too familiar story that goes, "We had multi-platinum albums, and sold out tours playing the biggest venues. But our lives were miserable because of mostly self-inflicted issues" .
Not wanting to sound like some misogynist but Stevie Nicks seems to me to have a "diva" problem. As for Fleetwood Mac? Yes, Christine McVie was away from the band for a long period but since she produced some of their greatest songs, it will never really be the same without her. Time to accept they had their day.
Christine McVie left the band in 1999 after "The Dance". Bless Stevie buts she's talking rot about it not working without Chris. Fleetwood MAc went on without Christine, released Say You will album in 2003 and toured up to she rejoined the band in 2014. From last interviews it was Christine's wish that they would get it back together (before she died). I saw them all live in 2015. You don't Mention the Buckingham McVie project and album in 2017. That was MEANT to be a Fleetwood Mac Album but Stevie 'didn't have anything' to contribute/wasn't interested, so despite the fact that Mick and John played on it... it wasn't. Stevie's nose has been put out of joint (over the success of the Buckingam McVie project? Over the fact that Lindsey "Moved on" and had a wife and family.... over her own ego ? who knows) The straw that broke the camels back was APPARENTLY the aftermath of Musicares event in 2018. They were taking the mickey behind her back and she didn't like it. Funny, she tolerated this "banter" for 30 years... (1975-91 and 1997-2017) She actually left the band in the early nineties because "It wasn't the same without Lindsey." She's on video saying that - look at "Rock family Trees" Finally and most compelling of all. Lindsey Sued and it was "Settled out of court" That usually happens when they know they are going to lose. They were all very chummy and then ignored him when he was ill, that and the fact he's conciliatory and open to returning, peed his wife off. The only one he got a response from was Christine, funnily enough. So yeah Team Lindsey here, and yes I know all about his past behaviour having read Carole-Ann Harris' book. OR maybe it was all Irv Azoff's fault ?
Agree with you 100%. Tbh, After reading the history, it was really Christine, out of all of them, that wasn't a piece of work. Buckingham deserved happiness in the end. I love Stevie. Her music speaks to me. But damn... I just know that lady put Lindsey through some sh*.
I agree. "Buckingham McVie" (2017) could have been easily the last Fleetwood Mac studio album if only Stevie Nicks had cared to contribute perhaps 3 of her songs and singing backing vocals on other songs. Fleetwood Mac (since 1975) had one of those rare bands with three singer-songwriters at the same time just like The Beatles had McCartney, Lennon and Harrison as singer-songwriters. It is far more common to have just one lead singer and one main songwriter in a band. A musician and producer like Lindsey Buckingham also made both McVie and Nicks songs better with his skills in studio. Besides I think Christine McVie is often underrated even if a large number of FM hits were written by her alone.
I often wonder if Christine left the band bc she tired of the Stevie Nicks drama. Plus, Stevie relied heavily on Christine as shelter during all of the turmoil. You know, the girls gotta stick together thing. I loved Christine bc I always felt she carried herself with dignity and in a quietly reserved manner. My heart cried when she passed.
Fleetwood Mac survived when Christine took a break. Last time i checked the name was Fleetwood Mac. If Stevie doesn't want to be part of the band so be it.
@@SouthernSummoners -Tell it to Stevie who is still selling out showing internationally and kicking ass. Rock a little before you try to drive little one. 🤏 Drive a stick before you try standard.
@@musicismagic3001 so you think the band would work just fine without Stevie? Because I don't. That band might as well pack up their shit and go home if they didn't have her. And that's just what I believe.. if you're implying that I'm talking bad about Stevie,Then you need to read what I said, about 50 more times and try and comprehend it
@@musicismagic3001 sir first of all, my comment to you was me agreeing with you 100%.. for whatever reason you're trying to correct me, i have a bit if correcting to do myself....i'll have you know that "stick" and "standard" happen to be the same exact thing.... It's 430 in the morning. I'm assuming you've been out all night and may be a little sleepy,confused,drunk or maybe even feeling refreshed after a long night of sleep and just not too smart..nothing you have said this morning makes any sense whatsoever. I never said anything against Stevie, in fact, I love her. She's one of my favorite musicians of all time (the queen of rock in my eyes)and for the record- I prefer a stick (or standard-because again they are the same damn thing)over an automatic. i live in the deep south and the standard/OR STICK, whichever you prefer to call it,will get out of the mud much faster..oh and im 6'3" and wear a size 14 boot,but i'll take your little guy putdown as a compliment. Have a great day sir.
Comments always crack me up. You really have to watch their documentaries and read their lyrics, of FM songs and solo, to understand Lindsey and Stevie. They reunited and became romantically involved just prior to the Dance tour (for the song Twisted), as shown in The Rehearsals of the Dance. Everyone screams during Silver Springs, how she went after Lindsey during that song, not knowing they were TOGETHER during that time. ALL of the songs written on SYW, and Trouble in Shangri-la, were written about Lindsey, per Stevie. Thrown Down was written during the Dance tour as she stated every time there was a chance for them to get back together, something always prevented it. This was the case with Kristen accidentally becoming pregnant. Lindsey didn’t even marry until after their second child. Many clips on MTV, and a few morning outlets, like with Kathy Griffin, Stevie would let people know she was “still with Lindsey” especially during touring (the Lyrics for Everybody Finds Out). In 2018, Stevie sang a duet with Leanne Rimes called Borrowed. Stevie said after hearing that song, she HAD to do a duet of that song with Leanne. That she understood that song because “she had that person” and could relate. This is the real reason for firing Lindsey and you can’t change my mind on it. She was tired of being in a relationship that wasn’t going anywhere and put her foot down. She said “I didn’t want to be apart of that darkness anymore and he knows that”. Again, she explains what that darkness is in Everybody Finds Out. It’s ALWAYS been about Lindsey, not Mick, or Joe…she’s written ALBUMS about Lindsey and only a couple songs about Mick and Joe. And you can always tell in interviews whether or not she’s pissed at Lindsey, based on her responses. Her stories change and contradict, based on how things are going with Lindsey. But she says “I never lie in my songs”. I do believe they are communicating again, since his divorce. Where it leads, who knows. But I’d love to see them reunite permanently, and publicly, before time runs out for them.
@@JustanotherMainer i do believe stevie still loves Lindsay and the same with Lindsay . I do think they are still seeing each other and have been off and on even when Lindsay was married. Now Lindsay is divorced.. we will see were it goes .as they are both in there seventys .i know there will never be another band like Fleetwood mac. I have followed them for nearly 40 odd years as you know all the songs they sing are about all there relationships as stevie was secretly seeing mick f .you will see stevie and Lindsay to gither again wether its song wrighting or as a couple
@@whitetail_hunter71 💯 no man should put is hands on a woman and no woman should put there hands on a man . Sorry but i think stevie could hold her own with LB . I do think LB is not a nice person. But love is blind
I don't buy that. Those two are a long time over each other. Nicks milked the interest in their romance and breakup for years. She never passes up an opportunity to talk about it.
@@helenef5492 I read where Nicks told her mother that Lindsey threw her down on the floor once so if that's true, why did she say Lindsey never abused her? Nicks had addiction issues during part of the time with FM so she may not have a clear recall of what went on. Thus, the public gets these conflicting stories. Honestly, though, who really knows what went on in that relationship?
It's always been striking to me that while the band is called "Fleetwood Mac," its two most talented performers are Buckingham Nicks. FM wouldn't sound like FM without Stevie's vocals (especially now that Christine is gone) and the band's work without Lindsey's creative force has been less than inspiring. I think part of the reason that Lindsey and Stevie's work in the band has been so much better than the work they did in their solo careers (and I'm a fan of a lot of their respective solo work) has been that underlying emotional tension between them. It's a shame that, likely, they'll not work together in the future. If they could set their egos aside, they'd realize that they're better together than they are apart.
What causes the conflict? Stevie, said it herself, her and Lindsey love and are attracted to one another, but different circumstances have kept them apart. So, when they tour for nearly a year together, those feelings and emotions come to a boiling point. They have to choose whether to give into temptation or not... for nearly a year at a time of touring! The consequences of said choice became even more heightened once he got married and had children. Conflict also creates fuel for their art. They are, and have always, been each other's muses.
@@SimplyBeingTT Have you actually paid attention to them? She dumped him, slept with men before they even joined FM, slept with his bandmate, had him fired from the band and has gone on record saying they will never be close again. Their relationship is toxic.
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669 I'm basing my opinion off of what I've learned of them so far. So yes, I've paid attention to THEM - their actions, words, interviews, songs, body language, what they share, what they don't... Yes.
I imagine Christine took Lindsey's side but was out voted. Stevie thinks FM can't survive without her. It took TWO guitar players to replace Lindsey. After everything that band went through Stevie's ego won out.
@@carolelee2945 They would have been nothing without Stevie. You wanna go back to the pre-Nicks/Buckingham days? Nothing to really remember. I remember the first day Stevie's voice broke my brain barrier brain. ✨⚡️💫🌛 They would be nothing without her. Her uniqueness outweighs the synergy they had in the day. I do love them all though.
@@carolelee2945 It's not rubbish. FM were not a big success after Peter Green, until Buckingham/Nicks. That's not to denigrate Christine, she was a huge part of the dynamic that created their blockbuster era - she wrote many of their hits. It's worth remembering Stevie Nicks was the one who had a successful solo career.
@@michelleb3698 l disagree, they didn't need her !!! She screwed up the group, so high on drugs didn't know what she was doing. Lindsey Buckingham has had a successful career on his own so l don't know where you got the idea from she was the only one !!!
@@carolelee2945 I didn’t get the idea that she’s the only one. Lindsey has a solo career, but it was never a huge success. What big acts are covering his solo work? Where was his solo induction into the Hall of Fame? It’s simply not as notable. The entire band were on something or another, and had their issues. But there’s no way FM could function commercially without Stevie Nicks because she became the star of that show.
@@rzeric - Without Lindsey Buckingham, she wouldn't have had anything to sing. Even songs she "wrote" were finished and arranged by Buckingham. She says as much in her autobiography. An ounce of cocaine a week for 20 years made her all kinds of snatchy.
Lmao, that’s hilarious considering Stevie was the one who catapulted FM to stardom. Prove of that is the fact that the band chose Stevie over Lindsey without looking back in 2018.
The pair of them both have massive egos. IMHO they are all great musicians but SHE is the primary voice. Stevie is a game player, she loves the drama. I am team Lindsay, but I think Stevie is the magic.
As a huge fan, I was kind of sad never to see the 5 do one last full studio album together. It should have been Buckingham/McVies "duet" album they did together that was very good, and Nicks adding some songs (displacing a few of the weaker tracks on the album) could have ended up being a really great album for them IMO. Oh well, what could have been.
Part of what made the band so special to me was the fact that they were literally living out a soap opera & stayed with it. they worked through the issues and kept on rocking..they showed that even with all the fame in the world,theyre still human and a life of fame isn't as glamorous as it seems..The whole world knew about the drama and it drew people in like flies to a poop pile. I don't really take sides, but if I had to, well, I'll just say this-Fleetwood Mac just wouldn't be the same without Stevie,it would be nearly impossible to sound as unique as they always had-since she joined. but then again without Lindsey there would be no Stevie & no fleetwood mac without the both of them. What a mess...i guess that makes me a fan of nobody leaving the band 😢
As a long time crew member of FM, and guitar tech of Lindsey Buckingham, I can say you got it mostly right. There are some nasty little details that were not touched upon. One day I might share.
Frankly, Buckingham seems to be the stable one. I’ve always admired his guitar work and songwriting, and believe that Rumors, FM’s only really big album, wouldn’t have been possible without him. Nicks seems to be the one creating drama, and knowing how women are, I’m sure she’s plenty resentful Buckingham moved on from her, got married and had 3 kids. It’s pretty clear she got him thrown out of the band. I’ve never liked Nick’s voice or music, so I’m biased. Also, Buckingham’s many appearances on “What’s up with that” in the late aughts and early 2010’s is legendary.
It seems like yesterday , driving around in a Bedford van all over the Uk listening to rumours. Loved it at the time ,but didn’t appreciate how clever it was till much later in life.
Buckingham is the reason that band was as successful as it was. Nicks wrote some good songs, but I suspect it was Buckingham who turned them into gold.
Stevie Nicks wrote more iconic hit songs than Lindsey, but you are right. Lindsey is an excellent arranger and producer, something many people don't know about him. He helped bring Fleetwood Mac songs to life.
I remember a quote from Stevie Nicks that said something like the spirits told her that she and Lindsey Buckingham will be together for 100 years. Anyone remember that? Stevie, leave that man alone.😂
Lindsey made that smug jab at Stevie saying he got married at 48 and had 3 beautiful daughters. And then pointed out that Stevie remained single and childless. And that she only had a “professional” life. Then at the end, it’s announced that Lindsey is getting divorced now that he’s almost 80. You shouldn’t have gloated Lindsey. Now it’s your turn to be lonely.
Yeah, busting on Stevie for not having kids was a nasty dig disguised as reflective comment. I love Lindsay's work, but that was a real dick move. He has some bad karma coming.
It's ironic how professional relationships always boil down to money. Money can influence your behavior in the worst ways. While I'm all too familiar with the past incidents involving Buckingham and Nicks' equally "dynamic" personalities. The mere fact that they chose to remain in the band, when each could have taken a leave of absence at any time, is perhaps more telling than anything. And with Christine McVie's tragic passing, I think FM is done. It's unfortunate that the band's phenomenal legacy may be overshadowed by all the internal drama.
And if it wasent for stevie workiing 2 jobs lyndsey wouldent have had a roof or food and everything else . As he was just looking afer his self as he never worked was just playing his guitar all day dont get me wrong he is a great Acoustic guitar player. . I love Fleetwood mac but stevie nicks and christine mc vie were the voicees of Fleetwood. Stevie done a lot for lyndsey .. . And she is still at it at 76 doing stevie nicks tours 2024 ❤❤
From what I recall reading (after seeing a video of some awards show) SN prattled on incessantly as ever, recounting ad nauseum as to her working as a waitress while LB stayed home and "smoked dope". LB reportedly made some disparaging remark about her lengthy tirade, which led to SN telling Fleetwood Mac "...its me or him," convinced that they could simply not go on without her. They were jaw-dropping magic together on stage in the day, but that was then, this is now. That said, if Mick and Lindsey worked together again, I'd be buying into that!!
I love them both and I love the band, but it's kind of douchey of Lindsey to say that he got married and had kids and Stevie didn't and that could be part of it. They both should really let it go, they are both in their seventies. I agree a band reunion is impossible now that Christine has passed away.
@musicismagic3001 REALLY? WHO HAS MARRIED N MOVED ON??LB.. WHO GOT KICKED OUT OF BAND IN 2018?? LB... BY WHOM??SN WENT TO MF N WANTED HIM GONE... DUH...
ironic that mick, christine and john didn't want stevie and lindsay said they were a package deal and if they wanted him they had to accept stevie. then years later she gives the reverse ultimatum.
I love Stevie Nicks voice but she did Lindsey dirty. If it wasn't for him she would of never been in the band in the first place. Great way to thank him. Reminds me of what Eddie Van Halen did to Micheal Anthony. Both Stevie and Eddie are douchebags as people.
The bitter old goat cheated on him before and during their time in Fleetwood Mac. She toyed with him, agreeing to sleep with him even after they broke up, then when he got together with Carol Ann Harris Stevie didn't like it🙄 Fortunately he found Kristen and had those beautiful children. She went mad after Tom Petty died and wanted Campbell in the band. Christine wasn't happy he was fired and sent him emails. Stevie ruined their legacy and deprived us fans of seeing the Rumours line up one last time. The way she treated Brett Tuggle was nasty too.
When I see those old photos. I can see the pain in Lindsey's eyes. People don't really _win_ breakups. But if anyone deserved to _win_ that breakup, it was Lindsey. I think both are cool. And something about Stevie resonates with me deeply. But I think it's fitting for Lindsey to be happily married with 3 kids and Stevie to be single with a bunch of dogs on a beach. Both of them deserve what they got.
@@EastSide-qc5oy True. But I've clearly wasted more time reading about it and listening to the band members speak. lol. I don't care. It's completely pointless to talk about. But if you think Stevie was the only person without flaws in that band, you're out of your friken mind, lol.
Fleetwood Mac is/was a whole greater than the sum of its parts. If you go by Billboard stats Stevie has had the most solo success, but they've all made great music. I love Lindsey _and_ Christine's solo work. It's a shame the personal stuff was too much to sustain a professional relationship... but if it wasn't for that fire, a lot of very powerful songs would never have been written. I also _love_ Neil Finn's music, but IMO he just didn't work in the Fleetwood Mac lineup, sorry. Now that Christine has passed on, and with Lindsey's voice affected by a complication of heart surgery, the fans will have to be happy with their recorded work.
Stevie wrote some great songs but she is very limited when it comes to playing an instrument. You can see that in a few piano demos she has on you tube. Lindsay took those songs and helped arrange them and they sound fantastic.He is a great guitar player.
Just a shame really. They were friends, then they had a thing, then they split up but had to endure their ex- for the next 50 years. No wonder there’s so much animosity.
in the end, they are both human beings and they do human being stuff. neither is 100% innocent or 100% guilty. sometimes things don't work out because people have flaws and something the flaws grind against each other.
Stevie is a narcissist. She can’t stand that he really moved on, got his wife and children when she preferred to live in the past. The problem is HER. It’s clear.
Mr. Buckingham still seems to like to drive the knife into her on a passive aggressive media level. He still refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his toxic behavior in the relationship. JMHO.
Im on neither side. I think it would be better if they could have just taken a big break and came back to the music when their anger had subsided. Fleetwood Mac is one of those rare bands that happen to catch lightning in a bottle. Once you empty that bottle, you’ll never catch more lightning. The band is too good and too important to let anger and bad feelings get in the way of the music. I don’t think anything happened that couldn’t have been mended with time. It’s sad that people rarely perceive that until it’s too late. Stevie’s voice is iconic, but so is Lindsey’s guitar parts. They’re both so essential to what makes it all work.
Neither of them. I will always love their music and admire their accomplishments, but their humongous egos are both to blame for the downfall of Fleetwood Mac’s final years. I don’t believe a reunion is possible or that it would even be a good thing. Hopefully, they’ll work things out, find peace, maybe even agree to finally remaster and release their 1973 album. But at this point, with Christine gone and John unlikely to return to the stage, it would be a travesty for the Mac to hit the road.
Here is the hypocrisy of Nicks at work. True, that no one can replace Christine McVie, but they can replace Buckingham who is just as influential, and a main part of all their hit songs? They can go out as Fleetwood Mac with two guitarist that are not Buckingham, but can't hire a keyboardist to play McVie's parts. Am I the only one seeing this Hypocrisy?
I went to Berklee with Stevie’s managers brother. ( Robby,f rom Santa Barbara) At the time, I thought she was gorgeous and talented. He filled me in on the facts. First, Stevie’s was an absolute stuck up. B--ch, a nightmare. Lindsey, a strange guy, Both are very talented. Stevie never stopped loving or wanting Lindsey. Lindsey is his own man and Stevie wants to control men. Lindsey isn’t controllable, wouldn’t put up with her crap and moved on. Stevie will never get over Lindsey and pitches fits consistently. Remember, he’s happily married and has kids. What does she have? Also, her love has turned twisted. It’s probably not love anymore. She knows she’ll never get him and the only way to effect him, is to be vindictive. That’s through his love of music. She wants to destroy his other love, music has always been a greater love than any person. So, what’s Fleetwood Mac worth without Stevie? Nothing. She’s the draw.. Stevie , now just a vindictive person, sees it as the ultimate nut chop and has him fired. That’s the whole deal…
That’s an interesting take on the matter. At this point, I think we’re all armchair psychiatrists. I think the truth is somewhere in between what he said, and what she said, with a healthy dose of ego mixed in just to keep it interesting.
I’m a woman and I’m really getting tired of stevie’s spitefulness and i’m a huge fan of hers but i’m also a huge fan of lindsey’s - she clearly has not let go of the past and seems to resent that lindsey moved on and had a family and moved on obviously from her
Lindsey or Stevie is like air or water. Need both. Air & water for life. Air & water for storms. It's just nature. The substitutes served as artificial life support while we hopefully awaited the healing restoration of the real (natural) FM again. L&S together, the fresh air & water for the life & storms of FM since the day they joined (alongside Christine, the warm sunshine) & grew it into my favorite band. Love life & storms both...rough at times, but beautifully exhilarating!
The pictures of the band are interesting when you notice Mick Fleetwood is so much taller than the others. I wonder how they decide who gets some artificial hight enhancement
I own the Buckingham/Nicks album, and it's great. I guess we should be happy it wasn't successful, or we may never have had the Fleetwood Mac that we knew and loved!
Didnt Lindsey want to keep doing new stuff and Stevie have little or no new things to put out there ? I think the buckingham mcvie release irked her and I'm thankful to have the extra output from Christine. Not to mention he hits most his notes whereas.....
Yes. He wanted to do new music.They made an EP, Extended Play, and he produced 2 old songs of hers. She said she was through with records because there was no money in it anymore and barely participated. Buck/McVie was basically a FM record without Stevie because she said there's no cash in it. A hard pass because no cash money.He's still in it for the music. She's there for the show and fame. Don't get me wrong, as nutty as she has always been, I love her Stevie Nicks. But she's been described as a handful. Mostly when she was on drugs and drinking.
It's not exactly a mystery why there is tension/animosity between Stevie and Lindsey. They were a couple for like 9 years. And they haven't been a couple for almost 50 years. I'm team Stevie 100%.
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Nobody remembers that Fleetwood Mac didn't want Nicks, he insisted she joined or he wouldn't.
I remember.
True, but they were mostly fine with her coming on, though they let Christine have the final say. The meeting at the restaurant sealed the deal as the two got on well.
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Yes, that's how it went.
His name is Mick Fleetwood.
@@fw1421 yes mick Fleetwood and John McVie thus the origin of the Band's name Fleetwood Mac
The band probably lasted 20 years more than it should’ve. Fleetwood Mac really ended when Christie McVie died.
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No the band ended when Lindsay was backstabber by the band.
Backstabbed
I saw Christine in concert in Minneapolis 😊
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By the way, both Lindsey and his wife are together. They worked things out and she didn't go through with the divorce.
Have they really?? Where did you hear this?
Source?
The Jerry Springer Show 😂
Better tell her billionaire boyfriend Barry Sternlicht that then 😂
Actually, they toured and recorded without Christine McVie 1998-2014...
And about half of that cd is terrific
We wore out the Lp’s in college. Fortunately, years later, I got to see the band with all of its original members before Christine passed.
Lindsey, Stevie, and Christine are NOT original members. They were part of the “classic” lineup that made all the hit records starting in 1975.
Fleetwood Mac formed in 1967.
@@cruzmalibu4361I actually like the Peter Green, Bob Welch era
@@danieldankenbring6522 Bare Trees!!! 😎👍
A BRIEF AFFAIR?????HAHAHAHA, LMFAO, SHE'S HAD TONS OF THEM!!!!!
Tell you the truth I think lindsey buckingham and stevie nicks voices are like they were I know stevies got really bad I so her she sounds terrible and lindsey does too bad lindsey and his wife patch things up so there you have it and it true if wasn't for lindsey buckingham stevie nicks would still be waitress at restaurants because mick fleetwood just wanted lindsey for his guitar work he did not want another woman in the band but lindsey said if you want me you have to take my girlfriend too stevie nicks.
@@patricksutton3992 I gave up half way through your post..
Speed dater Stevie
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It was Buckingham who insisted that Mick Fleetwood hire Stevie. She repaid him by making Fleetwood fire him. The band was never the same without him.
Lindsey Buckingham treated her like shit for years. She eventually got revenge.
Saw her in Dublin. Absolutely fantastic. She told some great stories between songs about Lindsey and Fleetwood Mac.
I just did a video on Stevie Nicks haha 😆
Personally, I don't take sides. I love what each of them brought to Fleetwood Mac 🙌🏾🎸🙌🏾
As always, great presentation, Adam!
I agree. We weren’t in that relationship, we don’t know exactly what happened. Does it really matter?
Fleetwood Mac is nothing without Lyndsey 😮
It's a two-way street. Buckingham is nothing without FM.
@@whitetail_hunter71 Mike Campbell is a great guitarist but he is just a simple replacement. If Lyndsey and Stevie had not joined they would have folded long ago
@@briantherion9145 - Stevie NEVER has folded. Ever. 🌕🌖🌗🌙✨
It is nothing without Stevie.
Totally disagree. The show was sub par without Lindsey.There was a noticeable difference and not a goid one. @whitetail_hunter71
Stevie was jealous that Lindsey was finally not chasing her .He moved on ,got married and had two daughters .Stevie was and is a flirtatious women who loved to have guys chase after her .The one that got away story!
Lindsey screwed groupies and flaunted it. He was jealous, because Stevie became more famous and she screwed Rock Stars, not groupies.
Nahww
@@rickypilcher3618 Where are you getting this nonsense?
@rickypilcher3618 Not.
Saying every group is hot, but I'm sure it Lindsey.Buckingham got the Hot ones. The majority of rocks stars are not very hot. Please don't tell me tom petty is hot.
@@martinishotwas not hot. R.I.P.
I think it was wrong for her to fire Lyndsey.
I agree completely
She didn't. She said him or me. They made a choice.
God you people are insufferable! She didn’t fire anyone….the band fired Lindsey. Stevie simply said she would not go on stage with Lindsey, she has every right to not want to work with a toxic abuser.
@@PassionGrows You haven't a clue of what you're talking about....do the world a favor and please just go away!
The relationship between Buckingham Nicks lasted 20 years longer than it was supposed to.
By the way, Nicks didn’t fire Buckingham, she asked the band to choose.
Nicks owes the opportunity for success to Lindsey Buckingham. Mac wanted him(only), he told them it was both he and Nicks or no deal. The rest is her version of everything.
Stevie Nicks, arguably, bought more to the table than Lyndsey IMO. Together, they made FWM a SUPER ICONIC R&R band!
Well, it’s hard to bring anything to the table if you’re not even asked to SIT at the table. Lindsey insisted Stevie be brought in or he wouldn’t join. She has talent and can write songs, but her voice, while unique, isn’t the level of say Linda R. or Bonnie Raitt. Buckingham is a great guitar player with a vision. Yes, they both helped make Fleetwood Mac a household name in the Seventies.
@@glennburch1081 The Stevie Nicks we know now was not the one who Lindsey brought with him. Nice voice and some good lyrics, but no musical knowledge or experience singing in big venues. She was a drag for those first few years, and Lindsey insisted she stay and they work with her. The band built her into what she became. It doesn't make her less of a performer. It does mean she owed Lindsey something better than a knife in the back.
I can still hear you saying you would never break the chain.
I'm on both sides
Buckingham saved FM from obscurity in the mid 70's. She wouldn't have even been in the band if Lindsay didn't make that ultimatum that he wouldn't join without her. He made her songs better than anyone else could. I think they were just milking the name for the last few years. Just stop. There is no tomorrow.
For musicians out there in their millions (and MANY talented ones by the way) who only did so much and only went so far, they really don't like to hear the all too familiar story that goes, "We had multi-platinum albums, and sold out tours playing the biggest venues. But our lives were miserable because of mostly self-inflicted issues" .
Not wanting to sound like some misogynist but Stevie Nicks seems to me to have a "diva" problem. As for Fleetwood Mac? Yes, Christine McVie was away from the band for a long period but since she produced some of their greatest songs, it will never really be the same without her. Time to accept they had their day.
It's not misogynistic to criticize a woman. Especially if she has clear character flaws.
Stevie Nicks would still be a waitress and a cleaner without Lindsey Buckingham Telling Fleetwood mac, "If you don't take Stevie, you don't get me".
He would have been a so so session guitarist.
What an absolutely inane comment. Yeah Stevie had,has no talent. Are you on the crackpipe, or just stupid?
She sure forgot about that.
@@stavford What a misogynistic comment. Bravo.
@@sjs1555 What a big word. Bravo.
This was so long ago at this point. I think she’s even over it. At her concert she was talking about him a lot
Too much drama , I'm on Lindsay side
Christine McVie left the band in 1999 after "The Dance". Bless Stevie buts she's talking rot about it not working without Chris. Fleetwood MAc went on without Christine, released Say You will album in 2003 and toured up to she rejoined the band in 2014. From last interviews it was Christine's wish that they would get it back together (before she died). I saw them all live in 2015.
You don't Mention the Buckingham McVie project and album in 2017. That was MEANT to be a Fleetwood Mac Album but Stevie 'didn't have anything' to contribute/wasn't interested, so despite the fact that Mick and John played on it... it wasn't.
Stevie's nose has been put out of joint (over the success of the Buckingam McVie project? Over the fact that Lindsey "Moved on" and had a wife and family.... over her own ego ? who knows) The straw that broke the camels back was APPARENTLY the aftermath of Musicares event in 2018. They were taking the mickey behind her back and she didn't like it. Funny, she tolerated this "banter" for 30 years... (1975-91 and 1997-2017) She actually left the band in the early nineties because "It wasn't the same without Lindsey." She's on video saying that - look at "Rock family Trees"
Finally and most compelling of all. Lindsey Sued and it was "Settled out of court" That usually happens when they know they are going to lose.
They were all very chummy and then ignored him when he was ill, that and the fact he's conciliatory and open to returning, peed his wife off. The only one he got a response from was Christine, funnily enough.
So yeah Team Lindsey here, and yes I know all about his past behaviour having read Carole-Ann Harris' book.
OR maybe it was all Irv Azoff's fault ?
Spot on.
Buckingham McVie 2017 💜
Agree with you 100%. Tbh, After reading the history, it was really Christine, out of all of them, that wasn't a piece of work. Buckingham deserved happiness in the end. I love Stevie. Her music speaks to me. But damn... I just know that lady put Lindsey through some sh*.
I agree. "Buckingham McVie" (2017) could have been easily the last Fleetwood Mac studio album if only Stevie Nicks had cared to contribute perhaps 3 of her songs and singing backing vocals on other songs. Fleetwood Mac (since 1975) had one of those rare bands with three singer-songwriters at the same time just like The Beatles had McCartney, Lennon and Harrison as singer-songwriters. It is far more common to have just one lead singer and one main songwriter in a band.
A musician and producer like Lindsey Buckingham also made both McVie and Nicks songs better with his skills in studio. Besides I think Christine McVie is often underrated even if a large number of FM hits were written by her alone.
I often wonder if Christine left the band bc she tired of the Stevie Nicks drama. Plus, Stevie relied heavily on Christine as shelter during all of the turmoil. You know, the girls gotta stick together thing. I loved Christine bc I always felt she carried herself with dignity and in a quietly reserved manner. My heart cried when she passed.
I'll allwas side with lindsey
Fleetwood Mac survived when Christine took a break. Last time i checked the name was Fleetwood Mac. If Stevie doesn't want to be part of the band so be it.
@@tonylaing6270 - Without Stevie, who would be their big draw?
@@musicismagic3001right..that would be like a like a car without wheels..It just wouldn't work..😂
@@SouthernSummoners -Tell it to Stevie who is still selling out showing internationally and kicking ass. Rock a little before you try to drive little one. 🤏 Drive a stick before you try standard.
@@musicismagic3001 so you think the band would work just fine without Stevie? Because I don't. That band might as well pack up their shit and go home if they didn't have her. And that's just what I believe.. if you're implying that I'm talking bad about Stevie,Then you need to read what I said, about 50 more times and try and comprehend it
@@musicismagic3001 sir first of all, my comment to you was me agreeing with you 100%.. for whatever reason you're trying to correct me, i have a bit if correcting to do myself....i'll have you know that "stick" and "standard" happen to be the same exact thing.... It's 430 in the morning. I'm assuming you've been out all night and may be a little sleepy,confused,drunk or maybe even feeling refreshed after a long night of sleep and just not too smart..nothing you have said this morning makes any sense whatsoever. I never said anything against Stevie, in fact, I love her. She's one of my favorite musicians of all time (the queen of rock in my eyes)and for the record- I prefer a stick (or standard-because again they are the same damn thing)over an automatic. i live in the deep south and the standard/OR STICK, whichever you prefer to call it,will get out of the mud much faster..oh and im 6'3" and wear a size 14 boot,but i'll take your little guy putdown as a compliment. Have a great day sir.
Comments always crack me up. You really have to watch their documentaries and read their lyrics, of FM songs and solo, to understand Lindsey and Stevie. They reunited and became romantically involved just prior to the Dance tour (for the song Twisted), as shown in The Rehearsals of the Dance. Everyone screams during Silver Springs, how she went after Lindsey during that song, not knowing they were TOGETHER during that time. ALL of the songs written on SYW, and Trouble in Shangri-la, were written about Lindsey, per Stevie. Thrown Down was written during the Dance tour as she stated every time there was a chance for them to get back together, something always prevented it. This was the case with Kristen accidentally becoming pregnant. Lindsey didn’t even marry until after their second child. Many clips on MTV, and a few morning outlets, like with Kathy Griffin, Stevie would let people know she was “still with Lindsey” especially during touring (the Lyrics for Everybody Finds Out). In 2018, Stevie sang a duet with Leanne Rimes called Borrowed. Stevie said after hearing that song, she HAD to do a duet of that song with Leanne. That she understood that song because “she had that person” and could relate. This is the real reason for firing Lindsey and you can’t change my mind on it. She was tired of being in a relationship that wasn’t going anywhere and put her foot down. She said “I didn’t want to be apart of that darkness anymore and he knows that”. Again, she explains what that darkness is in Everybody Finds Out. It’s ALWAYS been about Lindsey, not Mick, or Joe…she’s written ALBUMS about Lindsey and only a couple songs about Mick and Joe. And you can always tell in interviews whether or not she’s pissed at Lindsey, based on her responses. Her stories change and contradict, based on how things are going with Lindsey. But she says “I never lie in my songs”. I do believe they are communicating again, since his divorce. Where it leads, who knows. But I’d love to see them reunite permanently, and publicly, before time runs out for them.
@@JustanotherMainer i do believe stevie still loves Lindsay and the same with Lindsay . I do think they are still seeing each other and have been off and on even when Lindsay was married. Now Lindsay is divorced.. we will see were it goes .as they are both in there seventys .i know there will never be another band like Fleetwood mac. I have followed them for nearly 40 odd years as you know all the songs they sing are about all there relationships as stevie was secretly seeing mick f .you will see stevie and Lindsay to gither again wether its song wrighting or as a couple
I would love to see Stevie and Lindsay.Get back together as a couple and love one another again
@@whitetail_hunter71 💯 no man should put is hands on a woman and no woman should put there hands on a man . Sorry but i think stevie could hold her own with LB . I do think LB is not a nice person. But love is blind
I don't buy that. Those two are a long time over each other. Nicks milked the interest in their romance and breakup for years. She never passes up an opportunity to talk about it.
@@helenef5492 I read where Nicks told her mother that Lindsey threw her down on the floor once so if that's true, why did she say Lindsey never abused her? Nicks had addiction issues during part of the time with FM so she may not have a clear recall of what went on. Thus, the public gets these conflicting stories. Honestly, though, who really knows what went on in that relationship?
I'm on Bob Welch's side.
I'm going to take Dave Mason's side. lol
John McVie poor guy doesn't get any press.
Haha
Favorite FWM song ever........HYPNOTIZED (From Mystery To Me 1973)! I never grow tired of that song, NEVER!
@glennburch1081 Hypnotized is an amazing tune, definitely in my Mac Top 10!
It's always been striking to me that while the band is called "Fleetwood Mac," its two most talented performers are Buckingham Nicks. FM wouldn't sound like FM without Stevie's vocals (especially now that Christine is gone) and the band's work without Lindsey's creative force has been less than inspiring. I think part of the reason that Lindsey and Stevie's work in the band has been so much better than the work they did in their solo careers (and I'm a fan of a lot of their respective solo work) has been that underlying emotional tension between them. It's a shame that, likely, they'll not work together in the future. If they could set their egos aside, they'd realize that they're better together than they are apart.
Fleetwood Mac had been together for 7 years BEFORE Buckingham and Nicks joined. That's WHY the band is named what it is.
What causes the conflict? Stevie, said it herself, her and Lindsey love and are attracted to one another, but different circumstances have kept them apart. So, when they tour for nearly a year together, those feelings and emotions come to a boiling point. They have to choose whether to give into temptation or not... for nearly a year at a time of touring! The consequences of said choice became even more heightened once he got married and had children. Conflict also creates fuel for their art. They are, and have always, been each other's muses.
😂😂😂 She hates him
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669 A 50+ year relationship, and that's your conclusion. How simple 🤯.
SN ANGRY... LB NOT ANGRY...PERIOD...
@@SimplyBeingTT Have you actually paid attention to them? She dumped him, slept with men before they even joined FM, slept with his bandmate, had him fired from the band and has gone on record saying they will never be close again. Their relationship is toxic.
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669 I'm basing my opinion off of what I've learned of them so far. So yes, I've paid attention to THEM - their actions, words, interviews, songs, body language, what they share, what they don't... Yes.
Well, my thought is you presented pretty much Buckingham's perspective and very little of Nicks'.
I can’t pick sides, it’s just sad that they can’t manage to get along after all these years and move on from their differences.
Love them! Don’t care about their personal stuff. Will always have them on vinyl & cd’s❤ 🎶🎶
That's a lovely outlook to have! Thanks so much for the comment 😁
I imagine Christine took Lindsey's side but was out voted. Stevie thinks FM can't survive without her. It took TWO guitar players to replace Lindsey. After everything that band went through Stevie's ego won out.
Team Buckingham.
It's funny that Stevie thinks FM couldn't work without CM, but thought it WOULD work without LB!
Should have fired her. After all he got her the job in the first place when it was Lindsey that Fleetwood Mac wanted !!!
@@carolelee2945 They would have been nothing without Stevie. You wanna go back to the pre-Nicks/Buckingham days? Nothing to really remember. I remember the first day Stevie's voice broke my brain barrier brain. ✨⚡️💫🌛 They would be nothing without her. Her uniqueness outweighs the synergy they had in the day. I do love them all though.
@@musicismagic3001 rubbish, they had Christine. Her voice was much better
@@carolelee2945 It's not rubbish. FM were not a big success after Peter Green, until Buckingham/Nicks. That's not to denigrate Christine, she was a huge part of the dynamic that created their blockbuster era - she wrote many of their hits. It's worth remembering Stevie Nicks was the one who had a successful solo career.
@@michelleb3698 l disagree, they didn't need her !!! She screwed up the group, so high on drugs didn't know what she was doing. Lindsey Buckingham has had a successful career on his own so l don't know where you got the idea from she was the only one !!!
@@carolelee2945 I didn’t get the idea that she’s the only one. Lindsey has a solo career, but it was never a huge success. What big acts are covering his solo work? Where was his solo induction into the Hall of Fame? It’s simply not as notable.
The entire band were on something or another, and had their issues. But there’s no way FM could function commercially without Stevie Nicks because she became the star of that show.
Stevie would be nothing without Lindsey and Fleetwood Mac
right cuz her voice had nothing to do with drama bands success
@@rzeric - Without Lindsey Buckingham, she wouldn't have had anything to sing. Even songs she "wrote" were finished and arranged by Buckingham. She says as much in her autobiography. An ounce of cocaine a week for 20 years made her all kinds of snatchy.
Lmao, that’s hilarious considering Stevie was the one who catapulted FM to stardom. Prove of that is the fact that the band chose Stevie over Lindsey without looking back in 2018.
Lindsey? Is that you lurking in the shadows?(it isn’t wise saying everything you think. Practice some impulse control)
@@PassionGrows That;s a lie. They ALL catapulted FM to fame.
Its really simple, there is no Stevie without the brilliance of Lindsey. Shes said as much in interviews.
Great shirt my guy! Love certainly tore them apart 😅
The pair of them both have massive egos. IMHO they are all great musicians but SHE is the primary voice. Stevie is a game player, she loves the drama. I am team Lindsay, but I think Stevie is the magic.
Agree with every word of that.
She thinks she has the best voice. To me, it's like sandpaper scraping limestone!
@@sandyg202 Billy Goat
Without Lindsey there wouldn’t be Rumours and without Rumours, no “magic” Stevie. He’s the real magic.
As a huge fan, I was kind of sad never to see the 5 do one last full studio album together. It should have been Buckingham/McVies "duet" album they did together that was very good, and Nicks adding some songs (displacing a few of the weaker tracks on the album) could have ended up being a really great album for them IMO. Oh well, what could have been.
Part of what made the band so special to me was the fact that they were literally living out a soap opera & stayed with it. they worked through the issues and kept on rocking..they showed that even with all the fame in the world,theyre still human and a life of fame isn't as glamorous as it seems..The whole world knew about the drama and it drew people in like flies to a poop pile. I don't really take sides, but if I had to, well, I'll just say this-Fleetwood Mac just wouldn't be the same without Stevie,it would be nearly impossible to sound as unique as they always had-since she joined. but then again without Lindsey there would be no Stevie & no fleetwood mac without the both of them. What a mess...i guess that makes me a fan of nobody leaving the band 😢
These people are how old ?? So ridiculous 🤦🏻there isn’t enough money for everyone??
Nothing to do with money, obviously.
As a long time crew member of FM, and guitar tech of Lindsey Buckingham, I can say you got it mostly right. There are some nasty little details that were not touched upon. One day I might share.
Do tell 😊
@@bettyjeanmcfall1374 One day.
@@bettyjeanmcfall1374 If only I could tell the truth....
When are you releasing your book? I’ll buy it.
When Nicks made her ultimatum Lindsay or me. Management had to decide which would sell more FM tickets. That will always be Stevie.
Very much team Buckingham..
I loved them both, TOGETHER. I just loved Lyndsey's work on the Tusk record!
Despite the internal turmoil, Fleetwood Mac remains one of the greatest rock bands.
Frankly, Buckingham seems to be the stable one. I’ve always admired his guitar work and songwriting, and believe that Rumors, FM’s only really big album, wouldn’t have been possible without him. Nicks seems to be the one creating drama, and knowing how women are, I’m sure she’s plenty resentful Buckingham moved on from her, got married and had 3 kids. It’s pretty clear she got him thrown out of the band. I’ve never liked Nick’s voice or music, so I’m biased. Also, Buckingham’s many appearances on “What’s up with that” in the late aughts and early 2010’s is legendary.
It seems like yesterday , driving around in a Bedford van all over the Uk listening to rumours. Loved it at the time ,but didn’t appreciate how clever it was till much later in life.
You have to admit a lot of great music was written during all the drama ! Absolutely Amazing 😍 👏 ❤️
So true! It gave them a lot of inspiration to write from!
Buckingham is the reason that band was as successful as it was. Nicks wrote some good songs, but I suspect it was Buckingham who turned them into gold.
Stevie Nicks wrote more iconic hit songs than Lindsey, but you are right. Lindsey is an excellent arranger and producer, something many people don't know about him. He helped bring Fleetwood Mac songs to life.
I wonder where is that Low San Jolies town he keeps referring to.
I remember a quote from Stevie Nicks that said something like the spirits told her that she and Lindsey Buckingham will be together for 100 years. Anyone remember that? Stevie, leave that man alone.😂
Lindsey made that smug jab at Stevie saying he got married at 48 and had 3 beautiful daughters. And then pointed out that Stevie remained single and childless. And that she only had a “professional” life. Then at the end, it’s announced that Lindsey is getting divorced now that he’s almost 80. You shouldn’t have gloated Lindsey. Now it’s your turn to be lonely.
@@annesmith9181 - He must be a J.D. Vance fan. How despicable can he be?
Yeah, busting on Stevie for not having kids was a nasty dig disguised as reflective comment. I love Lindsay's work, but that was a real dick move. He has some bad karma coming.
When they entered the picture I basically stopped listening to Fleetwood Mac.
It's ironic how professional relationships always boil down to money. Money can influence your behavior in the worst ways. While I'm all too familiar with the past incidents involving Buckingham and Nicks' equally "dynamic" personalities. The mere fact that they chose to remain in the band, when each could have taken a leave of absence at any time, is perhaps more telling than anything. And with Christine McVie's tragic passing, I think FM is done. It's unfortunate that the band's phenomenal legacy may be overshadowed by all the internal drama.
If it wasn't for Lindsey, stevie would still be cleaning houses.
And if it wasent for stevie workiing 2 jobs lyndsey wouldent have had a roof or food and everything else . As he was just looking afer his self as he never worked was just playing his guitar all day dont get me wrong he is a great Acoustic guitar player. . I love Fleetwood mac but stevie nicks and christine mc vie were the voicees of Fleetwood. Stevie done a lot for lyndsey .. . And she is still at it at 76 doing stevie nicks tours 2024 ❤❤
@@PhyllisDouglas-zq8vp and became a diva and destroyed mac
How did she destroy mac
@PhyllisDouglas-zq8vp very true ✨️✨️👍🌙✨️✨️
@PhyllisDouglas-zq8vp they sucked without Lindsey, did you see them live?
Without Christie...there is no Fleetwood Mac. God rest her beautiful sweet soul. Loved them all for many years. The best.
The bands history would make a fantastic film don’t you think?
Lindsey is pissed because Stevie is more famous than he is. End of story
LOL. Yeah, sure.
This all day long, Buckingham could never compare to Stevie’s voice and talent!
From what I recall reading (after seeing a video of some awards show) SN prattled on incessantly as ever, recounting ad nauseum as to her working as a waitress while LB stayed home and "smoked dope". LB reportedly made some disparaging remark about her lengthy tirade, which led to SN telling Fleetwood Mac "...its me or him," convinced that they could simply not go on without her. They were jaw-dropping magic together on stage in the day, but that was then, this is now. That said, if Mick and Lindsey worked together again, I'd be buying into that!!
I love them both and I love the band, but it's kind of douchey of Lindsey to say that he got married and had kids and Stevie didn't and that could be part of it. They both should really let it go, they are both in their seventies. I agree a band reunion is impossible now that Christine has passed away.
Christine was out of the band many years and rejoined .. so it could work
SN IS OLD N ANGRY AT 76... LB IS OLD BUT NOT ANGRY...PERIOD...
@@richprokop5155😂😂✨️✨️👍
@@richprokop5155How can you tell LB is not angry? He always has been.
@musicismagic3001 REALLY? WHO HAS MARRIED N MOVED ON??LB.. WHO GOT KICKED OUT OF BAND IN 2018?? LB... BY WHOM??SN WENT TO MF N WANTED HIM GONE... DUH...
ironic that mick, christine and john didn't want stevie and lindsay said they were a package deal and if they wanted him they had to accept stevie. then years later she gives the reverse ultimatum.
I love Stevie Nicks voice but she did Lindsey dirty. If it wasn't for him she would of never been in the band in the first place. Great way to thank him. Reminds me of what Eddie Van Halen did to Micheal Anthony. Both Stevie and Eddie are douchebags as people.
Lindsey made Fleetwood Mac so much more than Nicks, and she ultimately ruined the band with her massive ego
If it wasn't for lindsey there would be no stevie.
Yeah, all those solo albums she did were huge flops back in the 80s. SMH
No stories no fleetwood mac, that what makes them unique and such a great band of musicians .
The bitter old goat cheated on him before and during their time in Fleetwood Mac. She toyed with him, agreeing to sleep with him even after they broke up, then when he got together with Carol Ann Harris Stevie didn't like it🙄 Fortunately he found Kristen and had those beautiful children. She went mad after Tom Petty died and wanted Campbell in the band. Christine wasn't happy he was fired and sent him emails. Stevie ruined their legacy and deprived us fans of seeing the Rumours line up one last time. The way she treated Brett Tuggle was nasty too.
When I see those old photos. I can see the pain in Lindsey's eyes. People don't really _win_ breakups. But if anyone deserved to _win_ that breakup, it was Lindsey. I think both are cool. And something about Stevie resonates with me deeply. But I think it's fitting for Lindsey to be happily married with 3 kids and Stevie to be single with a bunch of dogs on a beach. Both of them deserve what they got.
This is really stupid. You don’t know them and you weren’t in their relationship with them.
@@Good.Luck.Friend777 This is really stupid. You don’t know them and you weren’t in their relationship with them.
@@EastSide-qc5oy True. But I've clearly wasted more time reading about it and listening to the band members speak. lol.
I don't care. It's completely pointless to talk about. But if you think Stevie was the only person without flaws in that band, you're out of your friken mind, lol.
@@Good.Luck.Friend777 I never claimed she or anyone else was “without flaws.”
Synergy. They are each better with the other.
Agreed!
Fleetwood Mac is/was a whole greater than the sum of its parts. If you go by Billboard stats Stevie has had the most solo success, but they've all made great music. I love Lindsey _and_ Christine's solo work. It's a shame the personal stuff was too much to sustain a professional relationship... but if it wasn't for that fire, a lot of very powerful songs would never have been written. I also _love_ Neil Finn's music, but IMO he just didn't work in the Fleetwood Mac lineup, sorry. Now that Christine has passed on, and with Lindsey's voice affected by a complication of heart surgery, the fans will have to be happy with their recorded work.
Stevie wrote some great songs but she is very limited when it comes to playing an instrument. You can see that in a few piano demos she has on you tube. Lindsay took those songs and helped arrange them and they sound fantastic.He is a great guitar player.
Buckingham said, it's his way or the highway. And Fleetwood Mac said- there's the highway.
Well, Mr. Buckingham has a list of women he has physically and emotionally abused.so I side with the spacey Ms. Nicks. JMHO.
Name them. All of them. With sources documented.
@@idalily3810 One of them is dead so, sit down rabid fan!
@@idalily3810read the book by Carol Ann Harris, Buckingham should have gone to prison.
Life is too short, Stevie needs too let her guard down and Lindsey needs to forgive and get on playing the music they love.
Just a shame really. They were friends, then they had a thing, then they split up but had to endure their ex- for the next 50 years. No wonder there’s so much animosity.
in the end, they are both human beings and they do human being stuff.
neither is 100% innocent or 100% guilty.
sometimes things don't work out because people have flaws and something the flaws grind against each other.
I am on both. They broke up many years ago it should be water under the bridge. People break up and move on.
They should’ve hired Bill Hader to replace him
Stevie is a narcissist. She can’t stand that he really moved on, got his wife and children when she preferred to live in the past. The problem is HER. It’s clear.
Mr. Buckingham still seems to like to drive the knife into her on a passive aggressive media level. He still refuses to grow up and take responsibility for his toxic behavior in the relationship. JMHO.
You can go your own way but don't go away.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with jealousy, since he wrote the song for the movie vacation, and it became a big hit movie and he was set for life.
Who's side are you on? 🤔
Love them both !
Both of them. Lindsey is one of the most underrated musicians and guitarists to ever exist and I have justice for him!
Lindsey's. Who wouldn't be?
Im on neither side. I think it would be better if they could have just taken a big break and came back to the music when their anger had subsided. Fleetwood Mac is one of those rare bands that happen to catch lightning in a bottle. Once you empty that bottle, you’ll never catch more lightning. The band is too good and too important to let anger and bad feelings get in the way of the music. I don’t think anything happened that couldn’t have been mended with time. It’s sad that people rarely perceive that until it’s too late. Stevie’s voice is iconic, but so is Lindsey’s guitar parts. They’re both so essential to what makes it all work.
Neither of them. I will always love their music and admire their accomplishments, but their humongous egos are both to blame for the downfall of Fleetwood Mac’s final years. I don’t believe a reunion is possible or that it would even be a good thing. Hopefully, they’ll work things out, find peace, maybe even agree to finally remaster and release their 1973 album. But at this point, with Christine gone and John unlikely to return to the stage, it would be a travesty for the Mac to hit the road.
That was a really crappy thing to say about Nicks not getting married and having children. It was meant -- very strongly -- to be hurtful to her.
Here is the hypocrisy of Nicks at work. True, that no one can replace Christine McVie, but they can replace Buckingham who is just as influential, and a main part of all their hit songs? They can go out as Fleetwood Mac with two guitarist that are not Buckingham, but can't hire a keyboardist to play McVie's parts. Am I the only one seeing this Hypocrisy?
Also, they've toured without Christine many times already because Christine hated flying later in life.
He use to sing cracking up is all you wanna do. Instead of shacking up... He also push her down stairs and also sorts of other things.
What about Fleetwood Mac's comeback album in 1987?
I went to Berklee with Stevie’s managers brother.
( Robby,f rom Santa Barbara)
At the time, I thought she was gorgeous and talented.
He filled me in on the facts.
First, Stevie’s was an absolute stuck up. B--ch, a nightmare.
Lindsey, a strange guy,
Both are very talented.
Stevie never stopped loving or wanting Lindsey.
Lindsey is his own man and Stevie wants to control men.
Lindsey isn’t controllable, wouldn’t put up with her crap and moved on.
Stevie will never get over Lindsey and pitches fits consistently.
Remember, he’s happily married and has kids. What does she have?
Also, her love has turned twisted. It’s probably not love anymore.
She knows she’ll never get him and the only way to effect him,
is to be vindictive. That’s through his love of music. She wants to
destroy his other love, music has always been a greater love than
any person.
So, what’s Fleetwood Mac worth without Stevie? Nothing.
She’s the draw..
Stevie , now just a vindictive person, sees it as the ultimate
nut chop and has him fired.
That’s the whole deal…
That’s an interesting take on the matter. At this point, I think we’re all armchair psychiatrists. I think the truth is somewhere in between what he said, and what she said, with a healthy dose of ego mixed in just to keep it interesting.
I’m a woman and I’m really getting tired of stevie’s spitefulness and i’m a huge fan of hers but i’m also a huge fan of lindsey’s - she clearly has not let go of the past and seems to resent that lindsey moved on and had a family and moved on obviously from her
Lindsey or Stevie is like air or water. Need both. Air & water for life. Air & water for storms. It's just nature. The substitutes served as artificial life support while we hopefully awaited the healing restoration of the real (natural) FM again. L&S together, the fresh air & water for the life & storms of FM since the day they joined (alongside Christine, the warm sunshine) & grew it into my favorite band. Love life & storms both...rough at times, but beautifully exhilarating!
I know a service worker who said Nick's was a Diva for no reason. She's not that popular no more.
@@rickysanders7690 Oh, I know someone, who knows someone who said it on twitter. Nice source! 😂🤣😂
The pictures of the band are interesting when you notice Mick Fleetwood is so much taller than the others. I wonder how they decide who gets some artificial hight enhancement
I’ve read that he abused her for years and around the time of rumors she finally had enough and it bruised his ego.
You read wrong.
@@idalily3810 what’s your take?
@@idalily3810You're in denial about Buckingham.
I lost interest when Pete Green went 😮
Love them both. Not picking! Understand both sides and complexity of never being able to cut the cord from an ex for one’s psychology
I came looking for Freud explained. Does anyone care if they are friends? Polls say even the most avid fans are lukewarm on that.
I own the Buckingham/Nicks album, and it's great. I guess we should be happy it wasn't successful, or we may never have had the Fleetwood Mac that we knew and loved!
Love Turned, Sour!!!!!!!! ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!
Didnt Lindsey want to keep doing new stuff and Stevie have little or no new things to put out there ? I think the buckingham mcvie release irked her and I'm thankful to have the extra output from Christine. Not to mention he hits most his notes whereas.....
@JenniferCarter-ch6lq touring not new music from her
Yes. He wanted to do new music.They made an EP, Extended Play, and he produced 2 old songs of hers. She said she was through with records because there was no money in it anymore and barely participated. Buck/McVie was basically a FM record without Stevie because she said there's no cash in it. A hard pass because no cash money.He's still in it for the music. She's there for the show and fame. Don't get me wrong, as nutty as she has always been, I love her Stevie Nicks. But she's been described as a handful. Mostly when she was on drugs and drinking.
It's not exactly a mystery why there is tension/animosity between Stevie and Lindsey. They were a couple for like 9 years. And they haven't been a couple for almost 50 years. I'm team Stevie 100%.