I literally beat my first ever GM with this gambit. I wish I could link the game, but RUclips is no fun with that. Jonathan, you are a gift to humanity!
This was an insane preparation and an absolute delight to watch. But I doubt any human can beat Stockfish 12. I checked this line with Stockfish 12 depth 30. From move 7 to 13, the eval bar was between -3.5 to -4.5 Then from 14 to 19, the eval bar was between -5 to -6 (completely winning for black according to the engine) Then, move 20. ... Be6 was not what the engine suggested (The top three moves for Black were Re6, Nac6, Rxe1+ with an engine eval of around -5). Still, Be6 was winning for Black with an eval of -3.5. Then again on move 22. ... Bc2 was not what the engine recommended (The top three moves for black were Ne6, Qxe7, and Bd3 with eval of -2.21,-2.36, and -1.42 resp). 22. ... Bc2 eval was actually 0.0 (draw). After that, white was completely winning. 28. ... b6 ( also not the engine recommendation) was a forced checkmate M26.
Awesome gambit but it looks like stockfish 14 refute it easily with Rxe1+ instead of Be6 and the idea of Qf8. Can u try and update it? It would be very interesting to see a rematch where u find a way to beat sf14 with this crazy gambit
He is just using a better engine and prepares the game from start to finish so in a way you are right.None of this moves was actually his own move. Still beautiful, but creating the idea that he played it himself is misleading
@@johntimsen7825 you're ruining the joke, he already explained before that he uses several engines for his preparation, the coubfer Gambit against Evan's Gambit video I believe
Would love to get a proper analysis with stockfish at greater depths on some of those earlier moves to see where exactly it went wrong and what the actual best moves would have been. I'm sure it'lll be quite interesting
I’m 1300 rated and every Ruy Lopez game seems 50/50 wins and losses so I’m stuck on 1300. The problem is Everybody knows Ruy Lopez opening. This opening seems to gain an edge so I will def play it. I’ve also studied scotch and Evan’s gambit to play Italian game. This opening looks FUN to play too. You totally DOMINATED bro !!!
Unless there are more openings which can beat Stockfish, the next logical step is to see how quickly Stockfish can be beat. Is it possible to beat Stockfish with bullet time controls? Also, I suggest playing against Stockfish using stronger hardware on Arena. I run Stockfish on 1024mb RAM, and two dual core 2.0ghz processors. My version of Stockish is stronger than on in this video. Having better hardware would make beating Stockish much more impressive. It also would be worthwhile to analyze Lichess Stockfish games using better hardware.
Man oh man!!! U are the best. It seemed to me there was a lollies mate earlier. But who cares? So much fun!! I had fun with the Keoni Hiva gambit as well. If u have nothing else to watch! Miodrag Perunovic "The butcher" made a great vid about it. As well as the Latvian. The Latvian does offer some nice rapid games. But anyway! Thx!!!
I think the first mistake of the computer was on move 20 ... Be6. Black should trade a pair of rooks at this point. Up on material, trading as much as possible should diffuse the attack. And it gives an escape for the King or an entry for the Queen to protect g7. How would you continue after the following moves : 20. Qxg5 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Nac6 From there, I tried similar attacks as the one you did, with some help of the computer, but there is a good response each time trading pieces to put an end to the attack. I was unable to get through. But as I am not an expericenced chess player, you could probably do a better job than me. After 22. Re3 or Re4 or Re7, the response is Be6 After 22. Qh6, the only move is Nf5, any other move leads to mate in 4 or less. The Bishop prevents the Rook from going to h3. If white takes the bishop, it is replace by a Knight protecting g7 and attacking the Queen on g5. If the Queen tries to go for the mate without the rook, then black either puts a Knight on f5 covering g7 h6 and h4, also preventing a stack on the h file with the help of the g6 pawn. Or takes the pawn on f6. Or puts the queen on f8 to protect g7. Depending on what is possible. Here are some possible lines I tried: 22. Qh6 Nf5 23. Qh3 Be6 24. g4 Nfd4 25. Qh6 Nf3+ 26. Kh1 Qf8 22. Re3 Be6 23. Nf4 Ne5 24. Qh6 Qxf6 25. Nh5 Qxf2+ 26. Kxf2 Ng4+ 27. Kg1 Nxh6 22. Re4 Be6 23. Rh4 Nf5 24. Rh3 Bxd5 25. g4 Ncd4 26. gxf5 Nf3+ 27. Rxf3 Bxf3 28. fxg6 Qe8 29. gxf7+ Kxf7 30. Qg7+ Ke6 22. Re4 Be6 23. Rh4 Nf5 24. Rh6 Bxd5 22. Re7 Be6 23. Nf4 Ne5 24. Qh6 Nf5
The different with Alpha zero and stockfish that alpha like to sacrifice a piece for a long term positional advantage and hinder your piece into a long term disadvantages.
Jonathon, I've got tons of dubious gambit lines for you! I actually have piece sac lines in the refutation mainlines of gambit lines (Two knights, Budapest Gambit, Muller Attack)!!! Just ask and I'll show you! I'm serious. 2182 peak USCF)
Hey Johnathan can can you make a video about what you'd play if in the bishops's opening that becomes an italian, what do you play agains tthe guico piano?
The problem I have encountered is that after Re1 my opponents dont try to save the knight but instead play Be7 which undermines the whole attack idea as my F3 Knight doesnt get an in.
I tested a improvement (since i am trying to learn more chess) and i realized that To avoid one Draw Line where black plays 24. Bd3 after 23. Rae1, Play as white 23. Qh6 instead of 23. Rae1
What about 26. g4!?! If either knight takes rook you have mate in 3 with Qh6 and mating on g7. If Ncxe7 Nxe7+!! If Kh7 or h8 then Rh3+ and it’s mate next move, and if Nxe7 you have Rh3!!! And it’s mate in a couple of moves. To me it seems like the only moves are 26…Ncd4 or Re8 but gxf5 and there is too much pressure on the black king to survive…Rh3 and Nf4 seem like the stab to the heart.
The Sokholsky has a well known refutation - so a gambit to refute the refutation? And the "Bowden attack" against the Sicilian needs some new gunpowder. So many Sicilian players needs to be punished!!
why not try these against a better computer like stockfish 12 nnue(I do realize that stockfish 13 was out like a week ago but it didn't exist when this vid was made)?
What traditionally boring opening should I turn into a dubious gambit next?
Want to try with the pirc's/modern perhaps? Never saw any even remotely legit gambit lines for these
a mainline french perhaps
@@3RR0R415 *Exchange French
Pirc or modern
Exchange slav
" i just beat a GM with the schrantz gambit"
"Which one?"
The Berlin Defense: Schrantz Gambit
I literally beat my first ever GM with this gambit. I wish I could link the game, but RUclips is no fun with that. Jonathan, you are a gift to humanity!
That's awesome! I'd love to check out the game. If you send me the pgn on Discord or Lichess I'll take a look at it. Congrats!
@@JonathanSchrantz I believe I've succeeded in using discord.
This man is a GM (Gambit Master)
gambit master is far better than grand master
@@aryanjustlyneraj8047 True!
GGM
Grand Gambit Master
Never change Jonathan. Never change
Copied from agadmator video ehh😂
Holy smokes. This has to be called the Schrantz gambit!
Alternatively, you could call it the Reagan Gambit (tearing down the Berlin Wall)
Jonathan "Anti-Stockfish" Schrantz
he prepares with stockfish, no?
@@jesgluckner I think I heard that he uses another engine (Leela probably) and sees how it plays against stockfish or something like that
@@squidsword0 I think he said he uses like four different engines, including SF and Leela
I'd never in a million years think I'd see the Berlin defense featured on this channel lol
Only if he could just utterly humiliate it.
Fide should give the 'Schrantz Gambit' official name...
Fide doesnt decide the opening names
@@Sam-kj9ui who decides then?
@@misterr3653 usually people just use the name used by the Encyclopedia of Chess Openings
@@misterr3653 joe
@@misterr3653 Joe
What sorcery is this
The machines won't forget what you've done to one of their brothers.
Feels like we're witnessing a genius. Im pretty much sure we're witnessing a genius
Genius is easier to write (and also the correct spelling) (I used to write genious - so I don't blame anyone)
@@plywoodcarjohnson5412 you're right. Fixed it
That's insane jonathan, beautiful game, these games against stockfish are my favorite chess content by far, and a watch a lot of stuff
This was an insane preparation and an absolute delight to watch. But I doubt any human can beat Stockfish 12.
I checked this line with Stockfish 12 depth 30.
From move 7 to 13, the eval bar was between -3.5 to -4.5
Then from 14 to 19, the eval bar was between -5 to -6 (completely winning for black according to the engine)
Then, move 20. ... Be6 was not what the engine suggested (The top three moves for Black were Re6, Nac6, Rxe1+ with an engine eval of around -5). Still, Be6 was winning for Black with an eval of -3.5.
Then again on move 22. ... Bc2 was not what the engine recommended (The top three moves for black were Ne6, Qxe7, and Bd3 with eval of -2.21,-2.36, and -1.42 resp). 22. ... Bc2 eval was actually 0.0 (draw).
After that, white was completely winning. 28. ... b6 ( also not the engine recommendation) was a forced checkmate M26.
Always super impressed by your creativity, keep it up :)
Awesome gambit but it looks like stockfish 14 refute it easily with Rxe1+ instead of Be6 and the idea of Qf8.
Can u try and update it? It would be very interesting to see a rematch where u find a way to beat sf14 with this crazy gambit
thanks for giving me such a nice weapon against the most boring opening ever
though i still think one should study the berlin endgame as well
it's super instructive to see the way long term compensation plays out, even if there are better ways to defend.
I honestly think we could see this on the board in a future world rapid & blitz or bullet championship. They better call it the Schrantz Gambit 😂😂😂😂
Now I am actually starting to believe Jonathan is a robot with a neural AI software from the future
He is just using a better engine and prepares the game from start to finish so in a way you are right.None of this moves was actually his own move. Still beautiful, but creating the idea that he played it himself is misleading
@@johntimsen7825 you're ruining the joke, he already explained before that he uses several engines for his preparation, the coubfer Gambit against Evan's Gambit video I believe
Absolutely brilliant. Can't wait to give it a try. The Berlin smasher. Thanks for this one Jonathan
Jonathan any time you massacre Stockfish level 8 I’ll watch to the end. Great video bro 👍🏻
This is the kind of content I subscribed for
But can you beet Leela with it? I would be really interested to see if Leela has more chess understanding than Stockfish in an opening like this.
It is not even latest SF. Latest SF is stronger than Leela though I like Leela more.
@@youneverknow5555 It is SF12, just limited to a strength equivalent to 3000 Elo
@@iwersonsch5131 SF13NNUE
Another awesome vid. Great stuff love it.
The level of genius in this one omg :DDDD AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!
Super Awesome!!! What you invent day after day is simply beyond our imagination!!!
Would love to get a proper analysis with stockfish at greater depths on some of those earlier moves to see where exactly it went wrong and what the actual best moves would have been. I'm sure it'lll be quite interesting
Keep in mind, in this game the calculation depth was relatively low, so this isn't full power Stockfish
Jonathon I've been watching you for years glad to find your channel I'll be watching alot.
you have a really good flow/structure to your videos! keep up the great work
Forget Kasparov. Where was this man to represent humanity in 1996?
This is insane, congrats on this awesome gambit!!!
Great content. Always impressed by your work
Without a doubt one of the best chess videos I've ever seen. You sir, are a legend!
I’m 1300 rated and every Ruy Lopez game seems 50/50 wins and losses so I’m stuck on 1300. The problem is Everybody knows Ruy Lopez opening. This opening seems to gain an edge so I will def play it. I’ve also studied scotch and Evan’s gambit to play Italian game. This opening looks FUN to play too. You totally DOMINATED bro !!!
Unless there are more openings which can beat Stockfish, the next logical step is to see how quickly Stockfish can be beat. Is it possible to beat Stockfish with bullet time controls? Also, I suggest playing against Stockfish using stronger hardware on Arena. I run Stockfish on 1024mb RAM, and two dual core 2.0ghz processors. My version of Stockish is stronger than on in this video. Having better hardware would make beating Stockish much more impressive. It also would be worthwhile to analyze Lichess Stockfish games using better hardware.
The whole point of this is that this stockfish is not so strong, so that you can beat it with perfect preperation from a stronger engine.
Your right ! Show us more crazy aggressive opening please xD i’m super interesting
Best chess videos of all time
14. Qg3 hxg5 15. Bxg5
Doesn't seem to give enough for 2 pieces.
If Black isn't castled, it much harder to attack down the h file.
If you plug the position into stockfish after it played Ne5 (move 26), it's a forced mate in 6 starting with Ke1 which is indescribably incredible.
Especially as the king is on g1 so Ke1 is not a legal move!
John have u ever considered playing against the play Magnus app?
That's amazing. GG
bar is -4
stockfish: call an ambulance call an ambulance
bar goes to +7
stockfish: for me
Man oh man!!! U are the best. It seemed to me there was a lollies mate earlier. But who cares? So much fun!! I had fun with the Keoni Hiva gambit as well. If u have nothing else to watch! Miodrag Perunovic "The butcher" made a great vid about it. As well as the Latvian. The Latvian does offer some nice rapid games. But anyway! Thx!!!
This is just brilliant!
Hell no I’m not going to try this gambit in my games! lol
I think the first mistake of the computer was on move 20 ... Be6. Black should trade a pair of rooks at this point. Up on material, trading as much as possible should diffuse the attack. And it gives an escape for the King or an entry for the Queen to protect g7.
How would you continue after the following moves : 20. Qxg5 Rxe1+ 21. Rxe1 Nac6
From there, I tried similar attacks as the one you did, with some help of the computer, but there is a good response each time trading pieces to put an end to the attack. I was unable to get through. But as I am not an expericenced chess player, you could probably do a better job than me.
After 22. Re3 or Re4 or Re7, the response is Be6
After 22. Qh6, the only move is Nf5, any other move leads to mate in 4 or less.
The Bishop prevents the Rook from going to h3. If white takes the bishop, it is replace by a Knight protecting g7 and attacking the Queen on g5.
If the Queen tries to go for the mate without the rook, then black either puts a Knight on f5 covering g7 h6 and h4, also preventing a stack on the h file with the help of the g6 pawn. Or takes the pawn on f6. Or puts the queen on f8 to protect g7. Depending on what is possible.
Here are some possible lines I tried:
22. Qh6 Nf5 23. Qh3 Be6 24. g4 Nfd4 25. Qh6 Nf3+ 26. Kh1 Qf8
22. Re3 Be6 23. Nf4 Ne5 24. Qh6 Qxf6 25. Nh5 Qxf2+ 26. Kxf2 Ng4+ 27. Kg1 Nxh6
22. Re4 Be6 23. Rh4 Nf5 24. Rh3 Bxd5 25. g4 Ncd4 26. gxf5 Nf3+ 27. Rxf3 Bxf3 28. fxg6 Qe8 29. gxf7+ Kxf7 30. Qg7+ Ke6
22. Re4 Be6 23. Rh4 Nf5 24. Rh6 Bxd5
22. Re7 Be6 23. Nf4 Ne5 24. Qh6 Nf5
dont stop pls :D we need more of it!!
At 9:20 for move 30 is Ne4+ not a move? After takes takes the king is shut out of the 7th rank and the queen can come round and mate?
What should be the refutation of this sacrifice?
Leaving opponent's Q uncaptured for 3 moves 😂
10:07 promote to knight then Qd8#!
Exchange slav.....with the black pieces
Great content as always,😁
Schrantz Gambit it is!
Damn...
You're good
Out of context, "We are getting a phone call from the wife" and I checked my phone! Even though I don't have a wife!
I checked my wife! Even though I don't have a phone!
@@leadnitrate2194 Check and mate?
Beautiful. Thank you.
Brilliant !
The different with Alpha zero and stockfish that alpha like to sacrifice a piece for a long term positional advantage and hinder your piece into a long term disadvantages.
Thanks for making chess fun and interesting
you are a legend
WOW. That's incredible.
Excellent!, thanks.
I wonder if moving your king up instead of bringing back your rook would've been more efficient
It was a great game but I realized and even used engine to double check the move 15. There was a mate in two.
Insted of Nf4 play Qh6 #
Jonathon, I've got tons of dubious gambit lines for you! I actually have piece sac lines in the refutation mainlines of gambit lines (Two knights, Budapest Gambit, Muller Attack)!!! Just ask and I'll show you! I'm serious. 2182 peak USCF)
1:47 can someone plz explain why this is a forced draw?
Thanks mr.shranz
do think it is a bad idea to play this gambit in a classical game?
4:40 Just Qh6 and there is no way to avoid Qg7# next move or am I missing something?
*Awesome*
Hey Johnathan can can you make a video about what you'd play if in the bishops's opening that becomes an italian, what do you play agains tthe guico piano?
These videos are so fun
Does the computer always play ...14 Be6? It seems like a losing move for black. What’s whites response to ...14 Nac6
The problem I have encountered is that after Re1 my opponents dont try to save the knight but instead play Be7 which undermines the whole attack idea as my F3 Knight doesnt get an in.
lol this is like computer sniping
12:01 why not immediately go qh6? You force a queen sac I think
I tested a improvement (since i am trying to learn more chess) and i realized that To avoid one Draw Line where black plays 24. Bd3 after 23. Rae1, Play as white 23. Qh6 instead of 23. Rae1
no way thats a draw line
@@user-kk8po3xt8d Could you show me? I would love to learn.
i want someone to play all these weird gambits against humans and see if they can win it
What about 26. g4!?! If either knight takes rook you have mate in 3 with Qh6 and mating on g7. If Ncxe7 Nxe7+!! If Kh7 or h8 then Rh3+ and it’s mate next move, and if Nxe7 you have Rh3!!! And it’s mate in a couple of moves. To me it seems like the only moves are 26…Ncd4 or Re8 but gxf5 and there is too much pressure on the black king to survive…Rh3 and Nf4 seem like the stab to the heart.
Instead of Nf4 or Rh3 first and gets you to mate quicker
The gambit is super spicy btw!
i need crab opening next
The Sokholsky has a well known refutation - so a gambit to refute the refutation? And the "Bowden attack" against the Sicilian needs some new gunpowder. So many Sicilian players needs to be punished!!
Bowdler attack is just a terrible choice so many players do. Would be great to see Jonathan smash it with a fiery gambit!
Wouldn't Queen h6 have been mate in two for most the game?
Ng5 and instead of Be7? simply h6:
- Nxe4 Nxe5 f4 d6 Nc3 Nac6 -giving back the Knight with plus 2 pawns -+
- Qh5 g6 Qh3 Bg7 Nf3 (Ne4 d6) 0-0 and d6 -+
This is why they made stockfish 13
9:20 Am I crazy for thinking Ne6 is a move?
Wow a video that no-one dislike. I guess even the roaming trolls liked it.
who was the one disliked it once,he is gone mad
What should you play if black plays h6 on move 9????
why not try these against a better computer like stockfish 12 nnue(I do realize that stockfish 13 was out like a week ago but it didn't exist when this vid was made)?
but in 06:11 min, will a human play Qe8? why not he/she just play Kxh6>Qxh6>Nxe7>Nxe7+>Qxe7 then destroy the white?
Why didn't the machine take on g5? 3:39
I think i saw a couple of mate. Even mate in one? :D with queen at some points
On move 18, why not Rxe8?
My new year's resolution was for JS to become my chess teacher. Jonathan how can i do that if I don't live in Missouri?
Move to Missouri
Zoom
Smacking too much
I Will return to e4 after this. Thankful