It really does help the bigger the screen, IMHOP 4K is pointless unless you have a 46" or more screen or sit right on top of it. Having good HDR is also a big boost on various titles and movies.
For me, without question the best looking game out there. Uncharted 4 was super impressive, but this takes things to another level. The level of detail, IQ, animation quality, effects, performance..... Guerilla Games knocked it out of the park.
Agree, that for an open world game, what they have achieved with Decima and hard craft (not to mention budget) have truly given us a benchmark game for Open sandbox games in is visual punch.
Peasant Destroyer Horizon utterly destroys Witcher 3 in viewing distance, art direction, foliage, animation, world design, night visuals, lighting, shadows, etc. I mean you need a 1000$ pc just to even match the IQ of this game. Nothing you can do about Horizon utterly destroying in all other areas mentioned
+Peasant Destroyer I PC and Console game, I also don't troll and attack others because their favorite gaming platform differs from mine. You doing that is pretty sad, don't you think? +Aaron H Horizon Zero Dawn on more powerful hardware will inevitably surpass the PS4 version, the console just isn't as capable as a '$1000 PC' unfortunately. It's all about the software and taking advantage of the hardware available. This game running on a higher spec'd system would be leaps and bounds above the PS4 version, Native 4K 60 fps and above providing there are no limitations in the game engine that prevent it from exceeding 60.
+Peasant Destroyer Why are you here on this Console exclusive video? Apart from trolling id guess the main reason why you are here simply boils down to jealousy.
I literally just finished the game and it is really, really good. I played on the PS4 Pro in checkerboard 4k and there are some occasional points were the game can drop quite hard, I'd estimate in the low twenties or maybe even lower. However, performance is solid overall and does run at 30fps over 99% of the time, which is impressive for such an amazing looking open world game on console.
Thanks NXG, really looking forward to your full analysis, to see how they do what they do, it's a gorgeous title; born out by the fact I can't walk 50 paces without hitting 'Photo Mode'. (psssst, the P in Pseudo is 100% silent SEUW-doh)
Thanks, It will be up this weekend, work was heavy past 2 weeks. I did not realise I said that in the video? I did say Placebo which may be what you heard? and yes photo mode is getting hammered here lol
Its utterly ridiculous how good this game looks.... its the best looking game i have ever played, I find myself in disbelief of this accomplishment even after 50 hours played. And itrs not just looks, the game is a blast to play one of the best games of this generation so far.
Uncharted 4 still the king on ps4. Horizons visuals are amazing except for the water in the game. Uc4 does everything incredibly though! Obviously one would not be wrong though to say they like the look of horizon better. I just think there is that one flaw that uc4 doesn't have.
I would use 4K, and if you are in a bigger boss battle that suffers, swap to performance mode and back when done. The drop in IQ is more than the hit to performance 95% of the time.
I am trying to work out a way to cover this and other titles that I missed at this gen starts as I was not working on things then. To soon for my Retro work but I have got plans in hand,thanks
Hugo Azevedo Maybe but just an ok game . The game looks good most of the time but, if you look, there are a lot of ugly and low textures. The draw distance is low, and some time of days looks bad. Just look at the snow texture , looks like powder. AI on the humans is just rubbish and the combat against humans is just bad. The has many good thing taken from other games that makes itGood. Exploration is boring and side quest are ok.
lil mOO Of course. The game is not bad. In fact I like it but something's I struggle keeping playing it. I hate those underground facilities exploration.
ZeFFir Horizon is vastly superior to the Witcher 3. The combat is more varied and fun, it looks far better with performance to match and the soundtrack is amazing.
Thank you so much for this video ! I recently bought the Pro especially for this game, and had some buyers remorse afterwards regarding this game in performance mode, since i still play on 1080p screen as well. Think i will hold onto the Pro and sell my vanilla ps4. Thanks for the in depth tech analysis.
Can you do a video explaining different rendering methods? Like forward plus rendering, deferred , and checkerboard rendering? Like the positives and drawbacks of each method?
I noticed in a couple of people's play throughs what looked like bad frame rate drops and even one instance of the game moving in slow motion for a solid minute. Not sure if it was the game or the way it was streamed on RUclips
Campbell Troy no it wasn't that. It was during regular play. If you look at Massive G and Ramjan play throughs, you'll seek several instances of what looks like stuttering. Has to be the streaming
hell walker yeah has to be unless it's a major glitch lol. Aside from that, check out Massive G and Ramjans streaming. You'll see what looks like frame rate drops several times. It's hard to tell if it's in game or the streaming
You can slow time down in the game and yes as I show in the video it can dip frames and have some performance issues at times but overall a solid title.
good work mate. played this 10 hours now and this game is absolutely stunning. by miles the best looking open world game ever created. i have to say, totally eliminating those minor Dips, they would have sacrificed "bells and whistles" for a framerate which hovers much much higher than 30fps all the time without anyone ever benefiting from it. would have been a waste.
Great video I just barely been playing horizon complete edition on the PS5 and it looks amazing. There is some frame rate dips but not often, with the resolution mode but it's literally flawless with the performance mode. I hope guerilla gives us a 4k60 patch. Would be great. By the way. Is it just me or the textures on horizon are a little bit blurry or have motion blur on the bottom corners of the screen on the bottom left and bottom right? I have a QLED Q80T. Maybe they did that to make it more realistic!
With that TV, you're gaming in badass mode. With the PS4 it's a 30fps game in either performance or resolution mode, so I play resolution on my 4K TV. Beautiful game.
I think it's great that the opportunity is there... I have a "75 4K TV and PS4 Pro... First time i played HZD, was still on my TV but on a standard PS4... And let me just say, the difference is almost nothing... I hear people say "Woow, im 4K" and blah, blah... And technology is impressive but.. It's no changes... It's jist the framerate... One of the dwvelppers of the game was so hyped in an interview about how it looked on a Pro... Wait some time for the sequel (PS5), THEN i'll believe that it beats everything else...
I think that a game that drops to 29fps once in a while is doing the right thing. Push the console to it's limit : ) Also, I personally think it's insane to target 4k rendering ever. I'd rather have less pixels that are pretty, than more pixels that are ugly. Great analysis, thanks!
Grt video , I actually wanted to understand for a 1080p ps4 pro what are the enhanced graphical features in favor performance mode in horizon zero dawn?
How does the KZ:SF engine compare to the FOX engine? We know that Hideo Kojima is using it for Death Stranding. Would love a head to head because with Hideo the two seemed identical... at least from the trailers, could've fooled me that somehow Hideo got the rights for the engine and used it for the trailer.
there was actually 3 engines. The first trailer at E3 used sucker punch's engine. 2nd used decima. Either way, they aren't using fox. Its a konami property.
Well Guerrilla got this engine running on the Vita with little mechanical compromise, I'd argue they're the best developers period when it comes to tech.
Aww i feel bad now i must have been tired and emotional when i wrote that lol. Love what you do man, maybe give the script a little air to breathe, that's all..i could barely keep up lol. Respect! All the best, keep doing what you doing!
It is slightly softer due to the TAA in the game, but compared to many other titles it is less effected by that I feel, a fair trade for such strong IQ, thanks
Just went to Olin's house last night, and after about 50hrs of gameplay, this little house has the biggest performance drops by far. I don't really know what the reason is, it's not like you can see the outside world when you are in the house, so it shouldn't been continuously streemed... and even if it is, the game performs just fine outside. Weird.
I think it is the geometry and Ai culling as you can see through walls with your scanner so all the surrounding NPC's and routing etc are all still running. It is consistent with denser NPC's scenes also.
Great game, good analysis. It's outstanding job from Guerrilla. I play it on base ps4 but getting pro for best experience as I feel like there are areas (bigger settlements, crowds) with noticeable frame rate drop. I would like to ask - does game look exactly the same as in base ps4 with performance mode enabled or there are some graphical improvements (according to game's explanation it should be)? Thanks for answer in advance.
It depends on the display you use. Some TVs have a motion enhancement and some monitors have great response time. For this game on PS4Pro, I'd say it's best on a 4K tv.
@@crzxm With performance mode game runa at stable 30 fps while in visual or whatever mode is it has frame rate drops, so it's up to a person what he chooses. I hate frame rate drops so I played in performance mode back in the day. Also outside of rezolution there is no difference regarding visuala. Best way to play it now is on PS5 as you get semi 4k and 60 fps.
I just got a ps4 pro ant this game...... being so used to 60fps the 30fps cap feels really sluggish and is honestly a chore for me to play. I only bought a ps4 pro to play some exclusives but at this rate I'll never play or finish most of them.
Well, I do doubt that, I think if they could have they would have. it does have a larger scale simulation running and a form of procedural generation so the GPU and CPU are processing much more than you can see on the screen.
Lol, it was not aimed at DF, more in that many reviewers, YT's etc do tend to play on Easy which is not always a fair view of a game or even its performance.
Omar Sof Honestly, Horizon Zero Dawn surpasses Uncharted 4. I was expecting areas of the game to not match up to the media shown in the press before release. But if anything, it's even better.
For me Uncharted 4 is the better looking game overall because the animations are WAY better than in Horizon while it still is on at least the same level of graphics. Uncharted 4 just looks so "real" and completely mindblowing. However HZD ist one heck of a beatiful game and within my 65+ hours of total play time i had a blast and im not quite finished yet :) Still have some main quests left to do :) Its an awesome game but in graphics i think uncharted had a slight (REALLY slight) advance :)
Tosch aka ChIMeRaTeX I think uncharted definitely looks a lot more polished and the animations are seamless, best animations I've seen, but let's not forget that horizon zero dawn is open world and what they achieved was amazing
I think easily, they are both capable of great feats but it is the tool set, iteration time and options that make an engine good, and the talent in using them makes them great.
LEFTY PS NATION Co-Owner The Witcher isn't even in the top 1000 games for me. It's dull and repetitive with no real revelation in story or quests. It's fun but vastly overrated.
CEWIIH I love Witcher 3. My second favorite game this gen. Right behind Bloodborne. I was just really let doen by the monster fights. The game really lacked large scale monster fights.
try fighting two thunderjaws and bunch of watchers mixed with sabertooth at the same time, i guarantee you will see single digits on ps4 slim at least the only reason i switched to pro is cause it costed me nothing i wish they made a policy that after 2 years console exclusives would be ported to a pc at a full price, i'd personally bought this game on pc for 60$ 2 years after it's initial console release so i can fully enjoy it @60fps
nope runs like ass on ps4 and runs like half an ass on pro. (tested myself i own a pro) it stutters quite a bit sometimes and it has a shit ton of motion blur
Well I will be covering more in my full analysis up this weekend, but the checkerboard method does resolve to a native 4K so this is not like a standard upscale, will explain more in my full article.
The funny thing is I have 780ti windforce also rx570 4gb i have better fps but ps4 its stil better because is better optimized when I play this game I see broken colors its not good optimized ps4 you have not the problem you can play every game only the fps is not best but it's always good to play
You can sell the base PS4 and make it so that you essentially get the PS4 Pro at 50% off at least if you got mercantile skills. Heck as my gaming library amassed (I only buy physical) I was able to get the PS4 Pro just by selling off the base PS4 w/ controller and several games (some PS4, a lot PS3, some 3DS and Vita, and 1 switch game) that I had finished. Those games go on sale anyway later on so you can revisit them later on. It makes sense on a future scale since the value of the base PS4 WILL decrease in time, and by the time the PS5 comes out the base PS4 will be almost unsellable but the PS4 Pro can still be resold to at most 50% of the PS5's value.
pls grow a pair and show the motion blur in all it's ugliness, stop cutting when it appears and give some fast camera swings! even in performance mode only 30fps and motion blur, WOW i cant believe how handicapped console gamers r that they cant see it... amazing
I am slowly begining to see that you are clearly a PlayStation fanboy. All of your content revolves around PlayStation. you still haven't analysed games like gears of war 4. after calling ps4 pro as a great achievement now you are defending performance mode in horizon zero dawn. absolutely baffling. A pro console that cannot hit consistent 30 fps is a big waste of money. don't get me wrong I am absolutely Happy with 30fps but 30fps surely cannot fall in the category of performance. my guess is that pro was dipping far to much in some latter sections mentioned by you and hence to save ps4 pro it's blushes guerilla had to add this performance mode. I would appreciate if u could show these latter sections so we can have a better idea of performance. just put spoiler alert before showing us those sections.
monuked Sorry you feel that way and I can assure you I am not any "fanboy" at all. The thing is at the moment Sony have much more content to cover than Ms, that said I am trying to cover as much now and in the Future, BC titles like Half Life 2, head 2 heads with Ghost recon, res 7, For honour I have covered Xboxone and PC. I will be Covering more on this and may include some mild spoilers. I hope you enjoy what I have coming up soon, Ms is about to make a big splash on the scene and my coverage will dictate so. thanks
NX Gamer I am not criticizing you. it's just an observation. if roumour are correct Xbox Scorpio is a beast in the making. Microsoft has funded development of ryzen and vega. and have patented some tech. Sony better come out with ps5 otherwise it will be overwhelmed by this next gen beast called the Scorpio. I am counting on u to really give us an in-depth analysis of it's architecture. 4k 60 fps gaming is upon us. keep up the good work.
if u take PC hardware there is no way u can do 4k 60 with 6 teraflop. but Microsoft are going to do exactly that which means they have made a custom chip specifically for the Scorpio. I am sure they must have poured billions into making sure that ryzen and Vega can achieve this level of efficiency. that's why I am saying they must have patented some tech with help of amd achieve this level of performance. because big u take best ryzen cpu and a Vega architecture that has 6 teraflop of compute power there is no way u can do 4k 60fps on max settings. plus if they have funded some aspects of ryzen and Vega. Microsoft would be able to precure these custom patented ryzen and Vega tech at a very reasonable price. so 6 teraflop on Scorpio would be equal to a 9 teraflop graphics chip. it's interesting that Damien thong the analyst who predicts that ps5 will be released in 2018 clearly mentions that ps5 will have to have 9 teraflop of power inorder to compete with Scorpio. I am not on drugs mate this is technology and it moves at a rapid rate. true 4k gaming is right around the corner. competition is good for gamers. thank God I didn't buy ps4 pro. things are going to be very exciting for gamers. I want Microsoft and Sony to push each other to the limit.
it's my own assumption and I am not even heard of mrxmedia. Scorpio will absolutely anhilate the PS4 pro and u will see ps5 sometime next year. it's good for me as a gamer. high fedility graphics at 4k 60 and vr will be reality when Scorpio launches. and Sony will follow suit it's going to happen. 9 teraflop with a very good cpu is want to do high fedility 4k 60 and vr. ps4 pro falls way short in both departments. if Sony don't bring out ps5 they will loose market share. I am absolutely itching to see how powerful ps5 is going to be. like I said it's great time to be a gamer not matter what ur console of choice. if u are PlayStation gamer rejoice because Sony will also unleash a beast in ps5. I am so pumped.. Yahoo..
monuked I'm sorry, but a more power machine does not necessarily mean it will take market share away from fan other platform. Every heard of game libraries? I have an Xbox one now, and until Microsoft delivers games that I want to play, the one I have will not be getting replac3d by the Scorpio. I hope it goes well for Microsoft and the Scorpio sells like hotcakes, but Sony just has too much variety for Microsoft to ever "take" market share from Sony. People want more than just shooters. I loved or I, looking forward to cup head and possibly see of thieves. But Microsoft needs more games, plain and simple. Sony certainly has.
darjan bemiler lol I played quantum break on pc highest settings and this game on regular ps4 and horizon zero dawn is superior, quantum break did have way better facial expressions but it just wasn't beautiful to me, it looked way too much like a boring photo, horizon looked more like a beatiful handmade painting
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Game is gorgeous, been playing with resolution mode and I now want a 4k tv. Expensive as hell but wow I must get it for this game and HDR :O
It really does help the bigger the screen, IMHOP 4K is pointless unless you have a 46" or more screen or sit right on top of it. Having good HDR is also a big boost on various titles and movies.
I hope you got the tv.
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For me, without question the best looking game out there. Uncharted 4 was super impressive, but this takes things to another level. The level of detail, IQ, animation quality, effects, performance..... Guerilla Games knocked it out of the park.
Agree, that for an open world game, what they have achieved with Decima and hard craft (not to mention budget) have truly given us a benchmark game for Open sandbox games in is visual punch.
This game looks incredible and it being open world too. One of the best looking games this generation, no question
Most gorgeous game ever created and it is an open world game. Guerilla Games went nuts with this engine
In your dreams PS4 port beggar, keep begging for Witcher 3 graphics.
Please don't feed the salty PC only troll.
ACCel Zero Awww PS4 patch beggar, don't you have to go and steal money from developers and pirate games at GameStop?
Peasant Destroyer Horizon utterly destroys Witcher 3 in viewing distance, art direction, foliage, animation, world design, night visuals, lighting, shadows, etc. I mean you need a 1000$ pc just to even match the IQ of this game. Nothing you can do about Horizon utterly destroying in all other areas mentioned
+Peasant Destroyer I PC and Console game, I also don't troll and attack others because their favorite gaming platform differs from mine. You doing that is pretty sad, don't you think?
+Aaron H Horizon Zero Dawn on more powerful hardware will inevitably surpass the PS4 version, the console just isn't as capable as a '$1000 PC' unfortunately. It's all about the software and taking advantage of the hardware available.
This game running on a higher spec'd system would be leaps and bounds above the PS4 version, Native 4K 60 fps and above providing there are no limitations in the game engine that prevent it from exceeding 60.
picked up a ps4 pro yesterday I'm loving it to bad my internet sucks ass it's gonna take 48 hr to download bf1 :(
+Peasant Destroyer Why are you here on this Console exclusive video?
Apart from trolling id guess the main reason why you are here simply boils down to jealousy.
That's what the spliffs are for.......
The curse of the new digital age...I feel your pain and I have a 70Mb connection :-(
Ahhahhahaha
I literally just finished the game and it is really, really good. I played on the PS4 Pro in checkerboard 4k and there are some occasional points were the game can drop quite hard, I'd estimate in the low twenties or maybe even lower. However, performance is solid overall and does run at 30fps over 99% of the time, which is impressive for such an amazing looking open world game on console.
sweekly146 yea I just got a ps4 pro would you recommend me pick this up
It sure is a solid performer 95% of the time and looks incredible, even more so that the sandbox constraints that are placed upon it.
hdd, i replaced it and its better.
I has been a blast playing this game.
It sure is a ton of fun, not perfect but a supremely solid debut for sure, remarkable.
Performance mode Y U No 60fps? Thats how i wanna play it :/ They should have had a 60fps mode
jordan3802 sure. A 400$ console running this beautiful game in 60fps. Buy a pc if you want 60fps in every game
Make it ugly in the 60fps mode then
Yeah their reasons is they want flashy graphics to sell more copies. That and the game is limited by the consoles hardware.
trailer park supervisor And cos flashy graphics are much more noticeable than the slight difference between 30fps and 60fps
Tis a shame but after testing the game it can drop into the low 20's briefly so this mode does nearly eradicate those.
Thanks NXG, really looking forward to your full analysis, to see how they do what they do, it's a gorgeous title; born out by the fact I can't walk 50 paces without hitting 'Photo Mode'.
(psssst, the P in Pseudo is 100% silent SEUW-doh)
I'm the same way, so many screenshots :O
Thanks, It will be up this weekend, work was heavy past 2 weeks. I did not realise I said that in the video? I did say Placebo which may be what you heard? and yes photo mode is getting hammered here lol
Its utterly ridiculous how good this game looks.... its the best looking game i have ever played, I find myself in disbelief of this accomplishment even after 50 hours played. And itrs not just looks, the game is a blast to play one of the best games of this generation so far.
I agree, they have really captured a strong and stylized look yet natural at the same time.
Uncharted 4 still the king on ps4. Horizons visuals are amazing except for the water in the game. Uc4 does everything incredibly though! Obviously one would not be wrong though to say they like the look of horizon better. I just think there is that one flaw that uc4 doesn't have.
none of you have played Kingdom Come
In a nutshell top marks to the whole team at Gorrilla games!
Indeedy do.
As a ps4 pro and 4k TV owner which game mode I should use?
Schnok21 I have a Pro and a 4K TV as well. Use the high resolution mode. Looks beautiful.
lil mOO thx
I would use 4K, and if you are in a bigger boss battle that suffers, swap to performance mode and back when done. The drop in IQ is more than the hit to performance 95% of the time.
hey NX, I know ow it's a few years out but we need er got our Ryse technical analysis or comparison. keep up good work
I am trying to work out a way to cover this and other titles that I missed at this gen starts as I was not working on things then. To soon for my Retro work but I have got plans in hand,thanks
Best new IP of this generation.
Hugo Azevedo Maybe but just an ok game . The game looks good most of the time but, if you look, there are a lot of ugly and low textures. The draw distance is low, and some time of days looks bad. Just look at the snow texture , looks like powder. AI on the humans is just rubbish and the combat against humans is just bad. The has many good thing taken from other games that makes itGood. Exploration is boring and side quest are ok.
lil mOO Of course. The game is not bad. In fact I like it but something's I struggle keeping playing it. I hate those underground facilities exploration.
ZeFFir Horizon is vastly superior to the Witcher 3. The combat is more varied and fun, it looks far better with performance to match and the soundtrack is amazing.
They are certainly onto a winning formula.
Yes I just love intellectual properties, don't you?
2:46 did patches improve the fps?
No both modes run 30FPS lol
I cant see a difference between performance and resolution mode on my pro.. both looked 4k resolution on my 4k tv.. and both got stable 30fps..
Thank you so much for this video ! I recently bought the Pro especially for this game, and had some buyers remorse afterwards regarding this game in performance mode, since i still play on 1080p screen as well. Think i will hold onto the Pro and sell my vanilla ps4. Thanks for the in depth tech analysis.
Great it helped and thanks for watching.
The 4Pro goes well with a monitor but best with a 4K tv.
Can you do a video explaining different rendering methods? Like forward plus rendering, deferred , and checkerboard rendering? Like the positives and drawbacks of each method?
I noticed in a couple of people's play throughs what looked like bad frame rate drops and even one instance of the game moving in slow motion for a solid minute. Not sure if it was the game or the way it was streamed on RUclips
must be streaming, I am having no issues like that in the 4k mode. I have fought a dozen creatures at once and never had 'slow motion'.
Mayhap the 'slow motion' was due to having the real time crafting window open? You bring up the 'weapon wheel' and the game slows down.
Campbell Troy no it wasn't that. It was during regular play. If you look at Massive G and Ramjan play throughs, you'll seek several instances of what looks like stuttering. Has to be the streaming
hell walker yeah has to be unless it's a major glitch lol. Aside from that, check out Massive G and Ramjans streaming. You'll see what looks like frame rate drops several times. It's hard to tell if it's in game or the streaming
You can slow time down in the game and yes as I show in the video it can dip frames and have some performance issues at times but overall a solid title.
good work mate. played this 10 hours now and this game is absolutely stunning. by miles the best looking open world game ever created. i have to say, totally eliminating those minor Dips, they would have sacrificed "bells and whistles" for a framerate which hovers much much higher than 30fps all the time without anyone ever benefiting from it. would have been a waste.
Yes, the extra mode really helps for the times when it can suffer, but the game is a stunner on all modes and platforms.
Great video I just barely been playing horizon complete edition on the PS5 and it looks amazing. There is some frame rate dips but not often, with the resolution mode but it's literally flawless with the performance mode. I hope guerilla gives us a 4k60 patch. Would be great. By the way. Is it just me or the textures on horizon are a little bit blurry or have motion blur on the bottom corners of the screen on the bottom left and bottom right? I have a QLED Q80T. Maybe they did that to make it more realistic!
With that TV, you're gaming in badass mode. With the PS4 it's a 30fps game in either performance or resolution mode, so I play resolution on my 4K TV. Beautiful game.
I found out that texture quality also takes a (very) little dive when playing in performance mode
Yes it does, I covered this in my in-depth analysis of the game at launch, thanks
Ah okay, must have missed that part, thx :)
Is it normal that i experienced fps drops. On cities. Like meridian.?
its your hdd
I think it's great that the opportunity is there... I have a "75 4K TV and PS4 Pro...
First time i played HZD, was still on my TV but on a standard PS4... And let me just say, the difference is almost nothing... I hear people say "Woow, im 4K" and blah, blah... And technology is impressive but.. It's no changes... It's jist the framerate... One of the dwvelppers of the game was so hyped in an interview about how it looked on a Pro... Wait some time for the sequel (PS5), THEN i'll believe that it beats everything else...
Really simple.. favor resolution or favor performance... which is better ? We dont need all that other mumbo jumbo
I think that a game that drops to 29fps once in a while is doing the right thing. Push the console to it's limit : ) Also, I personally think it's insane to target 4k rendering ever. I'd rather have less pixels that are pretty, than more pixels that are ugly. Great analysis, thanks!
Thanks, I have a full analysis up this weekend, hope you enjoy that more.
If you ever examine older games I think your thoughts on Killzone would be awesome.
how's the camera motion blur? disturbing or subtle?
Very subtle and welcome indeed.
Grt video , I actually wanted to understand for a 1080p ps4 pro what are the enhanced graphical features in favor performance mode in horizon zero dawn?
If you check out my full analysis of the game, I cover all that in-depth, thanks
your videos always make my day XD
Always nice to hear, have more this weekend.
How is the hdr implementation?
It is very good, not the best but solid, I find the Night time benefits the most from extra detail in the darker areas.
How does the KZ:SF engine compare to the FOX engine?
We know that Hideo Kojima is using it for Death Stranding. Would love a head to head because with Hideo the two seemed identical... at least from the trailers, could've fooled me that somehow Hideo got the rights for the engine and used it for the trailer.
kapil busawah pretty sure dezima engine is a updated version of the kz:SF engine that they made for the ps4. At least my 5 cents.
there was actually 3 engines. The first trailer at E3 used sucker punch's engine. 2nd used decima. Either way, they aren't using fox. Its a konami property.
Well Guerrilla got this engine running on the Vita with little mechanical compromise, I'd argue they're the best developers period when it comes to tech.
+Brecondo [Digital Renegade] Haha the shill is real, compare this oudated engine with Frostbite.
Brecondo [Digital Renegade] That was Guerilla Cambridge and it was the old killzone 3 engine.
Performance mode is 1080p I assume?
Possibly a little verbose at times, a bit relentless with the run-on sentences and such, but appreciate all the testing you do for these mate
Thanks for the feedback, I am actively looking to speak less and tweaking my format, this all helps.
Aww i feel bad now i must have been tired and emotional when i wrote that lol. Love what you do man, maybe give the script a little air to breathe, that's all..i could barely keep up lol. Respect! All the best, keep doing what you doing!
I got this, and I'm playing it on a Pro and a great calibrated TV, but something about the image is just so "soft" to me, and the colors washed out.
Get a PC.
Got one.
It is slightly softer due to the TAA in the game, but compared to many other titles it is less effected by that I feel, a fair trade for such strong IQ, thanks
Oh it uses TAA?
God I wish I could disable that.
Just went to Olin's house last night, and after about 50hrs of gameplay, this little house has the biggest performance drops by far. I don't really know what the reason is, it's not like you can see the outside world when you are in the house, so it shouldn't been continuously streemed... and even if it is, the game performs just fine outside. Weird.
I think it is the geometry and Ai culling as you can see through walls with your scanner so all the surrounding NPC's and routing etc are all still running. It is consistent with denser NPC's scenes also.
Performance mode looks cleaner and thats weird
What happened in zero dawn again?
Great game, good analysis. It's outstanding job from Guerrilla. I play it on base ps4 but getting pro for best experience as I feel like there are areas (bigger settlements, crowds) with noticeable frame rate drop.
I would like to ask - does game look exactly the same as in base ps4 with performance mode enabled or there are some graphical improvements (according to game's explanation it should be)? Thanks for answer in advance.
It depends on the display you use. Some TVs have a motion enhancement and some monitors have great response time. For this game on PS4Pro, I'd say it's best on a 4K tv.
@@crzxm buddy, you are 4 years late to reply :] but thanks.
@@givemorexp I think I'm right on time. But am I wrong about the game?
@@crzxm With performance mode game runa at stable 30 fps while in visual or whatever mode is it has frame rate drops, so it's up to a person what he chooses. I hate frame rate drops so I played in performance mode back in the day. Also outside of rezolution there is no difference regarding visuala. Best way to play it now is on PS5 as you get semi 4k and 60 fps.
@@givemorexp I agree with you.
Those 3-4 frames and improved frame pacing seems to do miracles. Feels much smoother. This should only be played on Pro.
HE1NZ def not
I just got a ps4 pro ant this game...... being so used to 60fps the 30fps cap feels really sluggish and is honestly a chore for me to play. I only bought a ps4 pro to play some exclusives but at this rate I'll never play or finish most of them.
The game looks great but they definitely could have made it run at 60
Well, I do doubt that, I think if they could have they would have. it does have a larger scale simulation running and a form of procedural generation so the GPU and CPU are processing much more than you can see on the screen.
dissing digital foundrys poor gaming skills? 😂😂
I caught that "other people play on easy mode' XD
The Witchard 3: Wild FPS
Lol, it was not aimed at DF, more in that many reviewers, YT's etc do tend to play on Easy which is not always a fair view of a game or even its performance.
what software did you use to analyze the Frame rate?
My own software.
is decima up there with the uncharted 4 engine?
Omar Sof Honestly, Horizon Zero Dawn surpasses Uncharted 4. I was expecting areas of the game to not match up to the media shown in the press before release. But if anything, it's even better.
For me Uncharted 4 is the better looking game overall because the animations are WAY better than in Horizon while it still is on at least the same level of graphics. Uncharted 4 just looks so "real" and completely mindblowing. However HZD ist one heck of a beatiful game and within my 65+ hours of total play time i had a blast and im not quite finished yet :) Still have some main quests left to do :) Its an awesome game but in graphics i think uncharted had a slight (REALLY slight) advance :)
Tosch aka ChIMeRaTeX I think uncharted definitely looks a lot more polished and the animations are seamless, best animations I've seen, but let's not forget that horizon zero dawn is open world and what they achieved was amazing
first of all. i hate the google+ update so i cant answer directly from my home page
I think easily, they are both capable of great feats but it is the tool set, iteration time and options that make an engine good, and the talent in using them makes them great.
Can this game run at 60fps in performance mode ?
No it’s still 30
this topped the witcher for me this has become my favorite game this generation
the monster fights are so much better. Witcher 3 lacked BIG monster battles.
LEFTY PS NATION Co-Owner The Witcher isn't even in the top 1000 games for me. It's dull and repetitive with no real revelation in story or quests. It's fun but vastly overrated.
CEWIIH good for you
CEWIIH I love Witcher 3. My second favorite game this gen. Right behind Bloodborne. I was just really let doen by the monster fights. The game really lacked large scale monster fights.
Tis a great game as is The witcher 3 and this game has certainly been inspired by Geralt's tails :-)
Does performance mode reduce pop in?
creepybeaver3981 Nope, infact draw distance is ever so slightly reduced.
Wow, I guess resolution mode is the clear winner then.
if only performance was at least 45 fps
it runs at like 25 max on the base ps4.. 32 on pro and has so much motion blur i puke
4k hdr or 1080p i see no difference in performance :( Imagine this game on a high end pc
too bad it will never be on pc
Not long now.
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your comment didn't age well XD
@@BeatmasterAC ain't that the truth lol
try fighting two thunderjaws and bunch of watchers mixed with sabertooth at the same time, i guarantee you will see single digits on ps4 slim at least
the only reason i switched to pro is cause it costed me nothing
i wish they made a policy that after 2 years console exclusives would be ported to a pc at a full price, i'd personally bought this game on pc for 60$ 2 years after it's initial console release so i can fully enjoy it @60fps
the reason i put it in performane bc my ps4 pro sound slike a fucking generator and it gets hot fast.
Fixed at 30 fps is not bad
It is a very solid performing title majority of the time, and the perf mode resolves nearly all issues.
Ik I'm late but I bought this yesterday hoping to get 60fps on my pro like God of War 😑
nope runs like ass on ps4 and runs like half an ass on pro. (tested myself i own a pro) it stutters quite a bit sometimes and it has a shit ton of motion blur
Excellent video to an excellent game.
Thanks, full A2D coming this weekend.
What's the real native resolution of Horizon on Pro? No all that shit of 2160p checkerboard, the native one. Thanks
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Well I will be covering more in my full analysis up this weekend, but the checkerboard method does resolve to a native 4K so this is not like a standard upscale, will explain more in my full article.
The funny thing is I have 780ti windforce also rx570 4gb i have better fps but ps4 its stil better because is better optimized when I play this game I see broken colors its not good optimized ps4 you have not the problem you can play every game only the fps is not best but it's always good to play
This just gives me a good proof that if you have PS4 there is absolutely no need on buying PS4 Pro. It will be much better wait for PS5.
Introverder there is a massive difference on a 4K hdr tv. Believe me
You can sell the base PS4 and make it so that you essentially get the PS4 Pro at 50% off at least if you got mercantile skills. Heck as my gaming library amassed (I only buy physical) I was able to get the PS4 Pro just by selling off the base PS4 w/ controller and several games (some PS4, a lot PS3, some 3DS and Vita, and 1 switch game) that I had finished. Those games go on sale anyway later on so you can revisit them later on. It makes sense on a future scale since the value of the base PS4 WILL decrease in time, and by the time the PS5 comes out the base PS4 will be almost unsellable but the PS4 Pro can still be resold to at most 50% of the PS5's value.
Now we have god of war which is fucking amazing at a buttery smooth 60FPS on the ps4 pro
Nah it looks amazing on a 4k tv.
@@TheLegendaryBM except it's not a solid 60fps it dips into the 40s and even 30s in some places
Nice! one lad 😎👍
Thanks
I have ps4 Slim and i get very low fps. Help
Base/Slim ps4 is a tech masterpiece.
pls grow a pair and show the motion blur in all it's ugliness, stop cutting when it appears and give some fast camera swings!
even in performance mode only 30fps and motion blur, WOW i cant believe how handicapped console gamers r that they cant see it... amazing
ocasional streaming hicups-cups! :D
Well spotted, you win :-)
I am slowly begining to see that you are clearly a PlayStation fanboy. All of your content revolves around PlayStation. you still haven't analysed games like gears of war 4. after calling ps4 pro as a great achievement now you are defending performance mode in horizon zero dawn. absolutely baffling. A pro console that cannot hit consistent 30 fps is a big waste of money. don't get me wrong I am absolutely Happy with 30fps but 30fps surely cannot fall in the category of performance. my guess is that pro was dipping far to much in some latter sections mentioned by you and hence to save ps4 pro it's blushes guerilla had to add this performance mode. I would appreciate if u could show these latter sections so we can have a better idea of performance. just put spoiler alert before showing us those sections.
monuked Sorry you feel that way and I can assure you I am not any "fanboy" at all. The thing is at the moment Sony have much more content to cover than Ms, that said I am trying to cover as much now and in the Future, BC titles like Half Life 2, head 2 heads with Ghost recon, res 7, For honour I have covered Xboxone and PC. I will be Covering more on this and may include some mild spoilers. I hope you enjoy what I have coming up soon, Ms is about to make a big splash on the scene and my coverage will dictate so. thanks
NX Gamer I am not criticizing you. it's just an observation. if roumour are correct Xbox Scorpio is a beast in the making. Microsoft has funded development of ryzen and vega. and have patented some tech. Sony better come out with ps5 otherwise it will be overwhelmed by this next gen beast called the Scorpio. I am counting on u to really give us an in-depth analysis of it's architecture. 4k 60 fps gaming is upon us. keep up the good work.
if u take PC hardware there is no way u can do 4k 60 with 6 teraflop. but Microsoft are going to do exactly that which means they have made a custom chip specifically for the Scorpio. I am sure they must have poured billions into making sure that ryzen and Vega can achieve this level of efficiency. that's why I am saying they must have patented some tech with help of amd achieve this level of performance. because big u take best ryzen cpu and a Vega architecture that has 6 teraflop of compute power there is no way u can do 4k 60fps on max settings. plus if they have funded some aspects of ryzen and Vega. Microsoft would be able to precure these custom patented ryzen and Vega tech at a very reasonable price. so 6 teraflop on Scorpio would be equal to a 9 teraflop graphics chip. it's interesting that Damien thong the analyst who predicts that ps5 will be released in 2018 clearly mentions that ps5 will have to have 9 teraflop of power inorder to compete with Scorpio. I am not on drugs mate this is technology and it moves at a rapid rate. true 4k gaming is right around the corner. competition is good for gamers. thank God I didn't buy ps4 pro. things are going to be very exciting for gamers. I want Microsoft and Sony to push each other to the limit.
it's my own assumption and I am not even heard of mrxmedia. Scorpio will absolutely anhilate the PS4 pro and u will see ps5 sometime next year. it's good for me as a gamer. high fedility graphics at 4k 60 and vr will be reality when Scorpio launches. and Sony will follow suit it's going to happen. 9 teraflop with a very good cpu is want to do high fedility 4k 60 and vr. ps4 pro falls way short in both departments. if Sony don't bring out ps5 they will loose market share. I am absolutely itching to see how powerful ps5 is going to be. like I said it's great time to be a gamer not matter what ur console of choice. if u are PlayStation gamer rejoice because Sony will also unleash a beast in ps5. I am so pumped.. Yahoo..
monuked I'm sorry, but a more power machine does not necessarily mean it will take market share away from fan other platform. Every heard of game libraries? I have an Xbox one now, and until Microsoft delivers games that I want to play, the one I have will not be getting replac3d by the Scorpio. I hope it goes well for Microsoft and the Scorpio sells like hotcakes, but Sony just has too much variety for Microsoft to ever "take" market share from Sony. People want more than just shooters. I loved or I, looking forward to cup head and possibly see of thieves. But Microsoft needs more games, plain and simple. Sony certainly has.
One of the most overrated games I have ever played
Most overated IP of 2017
gears of war 4 and quantum break looks better than this overhyped game.
Nice troll bruh.
darjan bemiler lol u in denial?
darjan bemiler lol lol
Salty Xbox Fanboy detected :)
darjan bemiler lol I played quantum break on pc highest settings and this game on regular ps4 and horizon zero dawn is superior, quantum break did have way better facial expressions but it just wasn't beautiful to me, it looked way too much like a boring photo, horizon looked more like a beatiful handmade painting