The Avata self flipping thing is called "washout". It's a common thing that happens to cinewhoops with propguards, but it seems to be more prominent with the Avata in manual mode.
@@ezisTEvagy you absolutely can, just either 1. go slowly (with a low camera tilt angle), 2. Do wide turns if you're going fast, or 3. Slow yourself down before turning sharply going fast. Also update your Avata to the latest firmware, since DJI implemented a self-save feature when it detects your drone flips unexpectedly. It already has saved me a couple of times.
The crash looks similar to many other who review Avata, look at some FPV channels on RUclips posting examples / issue with factory PID setting, in other words when you sharp yaw turn notice that bobble that happens, thats prop wash , gyro over corrects control and then crash.
What about gyroflow and post editing? They say on their site that be avare of ND filters, don't use it, the faster the shutter, the better result will be rendered out in the stabilized footage and you can add motion blur in post production. I must try.
Can you comment on resolution sacrifice? Do you have to sacrifice resolution in order to get smoother footage? I mean, due to stabilization? Or resolution can be maintained at 4K through all the post-processing? Thanks!
nice video, about your crash the Avata has some problems with sharps left turns my has an upgrade motors and still does the same thing do not fly this drone like a regular 5" fpv drone till DJI fix this , chances are they won't.
great info. I just want to focus on flying, can i leave it to auto with nd16 or 32. just want to decrease the shutter and remove the blown out footage, will i still get a great footage vs with no nd filter
@@RobHK thank you for answering this is what i'm looking for on youtube but other youtubee. doesnt discuss this matter 😅 do you know if the new Action 3 also has shutter priority settings?
@@RobHK but why is this good for you? I am a photographer and we hate high iso coz of the noise, plus for me it is strange when the exposure is changing in the video - now I mean when iso is changeing, then the footage will become lighter. Just I don't know that, on the end will it give you better result, or is it better to leave the settings fixed?
Hello, i like your channel. Need some advice please? Im having issues with my dji avata quality on footage. I have set onto 4k 60 FPS, and when i upload onto youtube, its only on standard? not had this issue before.. thank you Norman
4, 8, 16, 32, 64 and so on. Depending on your area. I use 16, 80% of the time. The remaining 20% goes to ND8 I prefer to have perfect landscape exposure even if it blows the sky a bit. But 8/16 and 32 you’re covered 👌
Ive started applying nds to check what the shutter would be in different conditions. By testing that on cloudy days, sunny days, overcast, partially cloudy days, you get to know what to use when. Then i switch to manual settings and use the appropriate nd when i fly.
Hi buddy! Isn't it better to use 90 degrees rule instead of 180 degrees when flying FPV? It means that for 60fps shutter should be 1/240s instead 1/120s. What is your opinion about it?
No, just no 🤦 Always double the fps. Of course, if you need to you adjust accordingly to get better exposure. But always ND and always double the fps regardless of movement. I do use 50fps and not 60 which ill cover in a different video. This record was just made with the 60fps settings as i had to factory reset the avata and goggles back to CE.
@@RobHK OK, i always used 180 degrees rule. But.. Here is the statement from Gyroflow documentation: "A 90 degree shutter is typically a good compromise between artifacts and pleasing motion blur, and is thus a good starting point. In filmmaking, the 180 degree shutter rule is commonly used (shutter speed half of framerate). Depending on your use case and amount of shake, applying Gyroflow stabilization may result in undesired motion blur artifacts. Note that even higher shutter speeds can make the footage look less "cinematic" due to the lack of motion blur. If you're only concerned about stabilization, a higher shutter speed is generally better." So, on one of my latest footage from Avata after stabilization with GyroFlow i've got tons of artifacts and i wonder if the reason for that was 180 degrees shutter. I will probably try 90 degree shutter and fly the same location to see if that helps. Maybe it was just the issue with the footage or something else. I will let you know.
Sorry about the AVATA. Looking at footage, looks like the wind got it and flipped it. After that…game over as they say. CineWhoops and winds just don’t mix. Happens to the best of us…hopefully your back will n the air soon. Anything over 15mph winds seems to get a bit risky with the quad.
Sorry to hear about your drone dude! That’s pretty concerning since it should fail safe into a hover! I had a similar problem with my viswhoop which similarly dropped out of the sky because I flew through some saltwater spray… 😖
@@RobHK you should totally reach out to DJI and send them your logs. Sounds like they still need to iron out some bugs. I saw @AdventureFPV had his Avata lose control when doing slow nose over flips. Maybe something like that happened?
That kind of random flip happened to my DJI FPV with one of the latest updates 🤔, also it crashed🥲. thought that maybe , just maybe i installed wrong one props but i flew for 2 minutes before the random flip.
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The Avata self flipping thing is called "washout". It's a common thing that happens to cinewhoops with propguards, but it seems to be more prominent with the Avata in manual mode.
Bro, this video is 7 months old. Already made 50 videos on that
@@RobHK yeah, but a lot of people might come to this video not knowing that... just trying to save them some time. Cheers!
@@ValenteAlvarezMusic as like as me... I just bought an avata, so I shouldn't fly manually then, or how can I save the drone?
@@ezisTEvagy you absolutely can, just either 1. go slowly (with a low camera tilt angle), 2. Do wide turns if you're going fast, or 3. Slow yourself down before turning sharply going fast. Also update your Avata to the latest firmware, since DJI implemented a self-save feature when it detects your drone flips unexpectedly. It already has saved me a couple of times.
'Bro', being a bit smart are we.
The crash looks similar to many other who review Avata, look at some FPV channels on RUclips posting examples / issue with factory PID setting, in other words when you sharp yaw turn notice that bobble that happens, thats prop wash , gyro over corrects control and then crash.
Holy freaking math. So deep. Enjoy your input. Thanks
What about gyroflow and post editing? They say on their site that be avare of ND filters, don't use it, the faster the shutter, the better result will be rendered out in the stabilized footage and you can add motion blur in post production. I must try.
sucks bout your drone. man.. did you have refresh? thanks for the tips.. will def be ordering NDs from your link,.. good vibes
Can you comment on resolution sacrifice? Do you have to sacrifice resolution in order to get smoother footage? I mean, due to stabilization? Or resolution can be maintained at 4K through all the post-processing? Thanks!
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Great tips. Thanks
This is really helpful info! Thank you for sharing!
Such an excellent video mate! Really good job ;D
Thanks mate 🤙👌
Great video man. Thanks a lot for it.
Once I was in Sweden and there was same nature. Are from Sweden?
thanks for the easy explanation
nice video, about your crash the Avata has some problems with sharps left turns my has an upgrade motors and still does the same thing do not fly this drone like a regular 5" fpv drone till DJI fix this , chances are they won't.
I have a new fixed avata👌
great info. I just want to focus on flying, can i leave it to auto with nd16 or 32. just want to decrease the shutter and remove the blown out footage, will i still get a great footage vs with no nd filter
Ye, you can adjust this with the Exposure Value(EV) as well.
in manual mode, you can set the ISO to auto and while the shutter speed is set to double the frame rate? its like a shutter priority settings?
Yes👍 just as a mirrorless/dslr camera. Thanks for adding this!
@@RobHK thank you for answering this is what i'm looking for on youtube but other youtubee. doesnt discuss this matter 😅
do you know if the new Action 3 also has shutter priority settings?
@@RobHK but why is this good for you? I am a photographer and we hate high iso coz of the noise, plus for me it is strange when the exposure is changing in the video - now I mean when iso is changeing, then the footage will become lighter. Just I don't know that, on the end will it give you better result, or is it better to leave the settings fixed?
Thank u for this.
Arr you running the latest firmware on the avata and still flipped on its side?
How do u change camera settings ? You didnt show that
Hey rob just wondering did you ever do a rated video for the avata?
No 😃
Crash - same happened to me - sharp curve - i think there is a software -failure.
Hello, i like your channel. Need some advice please? Im having issues with my dji avata quality on footage. I have set onto 4k 60 FPS, and when i upload onto youtube, its only on standard? not had this issue before.. thank you Norman
The processing of 4k takes longer the smaller size your channel is.
@@RobHK ok. Thanks
Thank you for the good information
What are the different ND filter numbers? How to know which one to use
4, 8, 16, 32, 64 and so on.
Depending on your area. I use 16, 80% of the time. The remaining 20% goes to ND8
I prefer to have perfect landscape exposure even if it blows the sky a bit. But 8/16 and 32 you’re covered 👌
Does the avata have photo settings ? Couldn’t find a raw photo option ? Any idea ?
You can take photos yes, manual or auto settings
@@RobHK I meant can you take photos in RAW format ?
Nice video. Cool
How do you decide what nd value to uses?
Ive started applying nds to check what the shutter would be in different conditions. By testing that on cloudy days, sunny days, overcast, partially cloudy days, you get to know what to use when. Then i switch to manual settings and use the appropriate nd when i fly.
How do you get the settings on the bottom of your screen ?
Swipe up on the pad
Hi buddy! Isn't it better to use 90 degrees rule instead of 180 degrees when flying FPV? It means that for 60fps shutter should be 1/240s instead 1/120s. What is your opinion about it?
No, just no 🤦 Always double the fps. Of course, if you need to you adjust accordingly to get better exposure. But always ND and always double the fps regardless of movement.
I do use 50fps and not 60 which ill cover in a different video. This record was just made with the 60fps settings as i had to factory reset the avata and goggles back to CE.
@@RobHK OK, i always used 180 degrees rule. But.. Here is the statement from Gyroflow documentation: "A 90 degree shutter is typically a good compromise between artifacts and pleasing motion blur, and is thus a good starting point. In filmmaking, the 180 degree shutter rule is commonly used (shutter speed half of framerate). Depending on your use case and amount of shake, applying Gyroflow stabilization may result in undesired motion blur artifacts. Note that even higher shutter speeds can make the footage look less "cinematic" due to the lack of motion blur. If you're only concerned about stabilization, a higher shutter speed is generally better." So, on one of my latest footage from Avata after stabilization with GyroFlow i've got tons of artifacts and i wonder if the reason for that was 180 degrees shutter. I will probably try 90 degree shutter and fly the same location to see if that helps. Maybe it was just the issue with the footage or something else. I will let you know.
@@planetinthelens Did it help with the artefacts?
@@planetinthelensyou are absolutely correct, 90 degree shutter speed is a starting point when flying an fpv drone 👌
Sorry about the AVATA. Looking at footage, looks like the wind got it and flipped it. After that…game over as they say. CineWhoops and winds just don’t mix. Happens to the best of us…hopefully your back will n the air soon. Anything over 15mph winds seems to get a bit risky with the quad.
Lol, it was barely any wind, and down there next to me literally nothing😅 you should see that in the video👌
@@RobHK Interesting! I’ve not had any flip issues to date. Knock on wood! Thanks for heads up though.
I have a more in-depth video later today/tomorrow👌
@@RobHK sounds good! Yeah..I see now. Looked like a very calm day.
Nice 🤟🏼🤝😎
This happened to me in auto mode too. DJI almost didnt want to take responsibility for it.
Thanks
Sorry to hear about your drone dude! That’s pretty concerning since it should fail safe into a hover! I had a similar problem with my viswhoop which similarly dropped out of the sky because I flew through some saltwater spray… 😖
Ikr 😒
@@RobHK you should totally reach out to DJI and send them your logs. Sounds like they still need to iron out some bugs. I saw @AdventureFPV had his Avata lose control when doing slow nose over flips. Maybe something like that happened?
Idk.. Will see if can gather some logs to check the issues. Shouldn’t be there at all tho
Lol. “My avata took its own life”😂😂😂
you experienced thumble, you can reduce this effect by doing an motor upgrade
It's good quality video ?
Yaw tumble again...
That kind of random flip happened to my DJI FPV with one of the latest updates 🤔, also it crashed🥲. thought that maybe , just maybe i installed wrong one props but i flew for 2 minutes before the random flip.
Have you tried updating to the latest firmware of the avata?