I think a company such as DJI which is always implementing and wanting to improve would appreciate the honesty. If they take it, learn from it and fix it, it showcases a company that is not afraid to fail and take a hit for future progress.
Matti at 8:54 you mentioned the first DJI fpv losing control. That’s from the GoPro interfering with the gps module on the back/top. If the drone doesn’t have a gps connection then it assumes you’re in a no-fly zone (hence the lack of lateral movement options). It’s also a known issue and the work around is no GoPro mounted unfortunately…
@@mattihI’m dealing with this right now too, trying out different mounts to maybe find a workaround (no luck yet). Had my fpv auto land 3ft from the edge of a lake last week, it was scary
I believe that is incorrect, it happened to me last year when I got my drone and I didn't have any GoPro or anything else on it and I still see it happening to people a year later and DJI as usual just ignores these issues.
I've had the DJI FPV do the no lateral movement thing to me and I didn't have a GoPro or anything on it, just flying it as it came. I hope DJI fixes this soon because it makes me not want to fly it!
Yes, I’ve ran into this same issue several times. Unfortunately there’s no way for DJI to fix it. The reason is because the motors have a much lower voltage than the remote outputs. So when you max out on the remote the motors can’t take all the input and freak out. This is also why DJI only sells the Avata with the motion controller. They didn’t have motors powerful enough for the size but still shipped it out and covered it up with a motion controller. I would not recommend this drone. Matti love the content. It’s amazing to see how far you’ve come. Much love! Will Peeler
It can be fixed in software. On more configurable drones, this is something called dynamic idle. If the motor doesn't spin down that slow in the first place, it will not stall.
@@TuckerPearce he doesn't since his comments don't even have any basis in reality for electronics. The voltage output from the controller? What the hell is that, just a moron comment
@@Audi1Pete it's likely too low of an idle, and this can be addressed in software or esc config. there's no reason they can't provide a software fix for this.
This happened to me as well! It is when you are turning and you lose control. The balance in the drone sucks and when you turn to hard with even a bit of wind it happens. Its happened lots to me.
I have the exact same problem, but mine just goes full throttle upwards, completely randomly! No control possible anymore at all! 4 times I crashed it hard because I was flying inside and one time it went up to 500 meters when I was outside. Because the battery almost died it did a return to home. But we had to catch it with our hands because you can’t control it anymore. It won’t land. I find this a super unsafe drone and I’m sending everything back to DJI.
I don't think it's a bug as much as it's a desync or power issue. It seems to happen when you do a quick yaw turn and the front motor can't handle the ramp up in speed and shuts off.
10:04! Peter McKinnon scream like that! 🤣😭🤣😭🤣 Oh men, so bad at drones, I feel like I don't wanna buy drones, I might have many times bad accident. 😭😭 Regrets on a beauty of bird eye view! 😅🤣
Some people are saying this is what happens with cinewhoops in high speed turns... my Flywoo Cinerace gets some prop wash but it doesn't fall out of the sky it just corrects itself
This has been talked about a lot, its because your taking a sharp turn. I thought they came out with an update that fixed it but I havent looked into it
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound arrogant, but Matt, if you're using manual mode, you need to make the turns with both stickers to the side, to apply tangency, if you just turn the sticker on the right, the drone will end losing support and falling, think that it is the same to make a curve with an indy car, the curve needs to have an angle so that it does not go off the track, applying the speed they usually run, different from the f1 car, which is needed decrease to make the turn, because it is straight, if you accelerate, it will go out, in the case of the drone, without it having this curve tangency, it will "roll over" in the air and turn upside down, losing the support, consequently falling... Follow fpv pilots who put the image of the control in the videos, you will see that a curve is normally made with the two sticks directed to the side you want to turn
Been here since the Travel Feels days… this was a GREAT throwback to that time period. Awesome video, Matti. Love seeing some Matti and Pete adventures again.
This isnt a problem with the avata as much as its a problem with the way people fly it. Reality is its a cinewhoop and it has limitations just like any other cinewhoop. The crash happens when the motor is overloaded which would be either of the front 2 motors. You're already ripping and then try to make a hard yaw movement that overloads the motor to the point where it cant keep up and just gives up. Some cinewhoops are better than others but overall this is a normal thing on a platform like this. Especially with underpowered motors and mavic bros who don't understand the performace of fpv drones.
@@callmesirjustsir its basically the sensitivity of the yaw stick (normally left stick side to side) it can be changed in the drones settings. the Yaw Rate normally defines the maximum degrees that the drone rotates per second. and you can define for all 3 rotational axis.
Not the title and video you want to see 1 week after buying the Avata🙈😅 Do you know if it can happen in N or S mode as well? Been thinking of flyging a bit indoor. But you don’t want this to happen in a middle of restaurant or a beautiful villa🙈
Did you happen to find a lens cap from a Panasonic HVX200? I lost 2 of them on a shoot on a glacier in Iceland in 2007... snowmobile crash. Good times.
Glad you’re vlogging about this, hopefully it’ll help get DJI’s attention. Hard to tell from video, but does appear you were in a bit of a yaw turn just prior to crash. Not sure it’s safe to say it happened completely randomly. These crashes seem to be induced by yaw turns, so just a heads-up flying your other ones. Hope it’s resolved soon m8!
We should open a class action. It is not safe, it happens often especially if you fly in manual mode at high speeds. This bug happens everytime the drone makes a washout especially going forward and then turning fast to go backward, in the moment you do that the drone flip side down directly to the ground for 10 meters at high speed, becase it accelerate itself, and you press the emergency button or no matter what you try to do the drone do not respond to the commands, it starts responding you only after a few seconds or meters, and if you are too close to the ground, it is too late, it will crash.
Awesome video as always😊, regarding Avata: have U tried to recalibrate the controller sticks? I’m asking because in both clips you had an error message on the screen about that.
This is the content I subscribe for 😁 I was already having Iceland withdrawals and now I feel them even more! Looking forward to the rest of the series!
Love ya Matt but you gotta calibrate your sticks mate, not saying it for sure caused the crashes but it’s certainly possible the drones getting mixed signals from what you’re actually trying to do and then wigs out.
Hey Matti, Could you tell me what device you’re currently using to record your audio when you’re in the studio? I use the Zoom H6, but since I also use it for recording my musical performances, I’m in need of a device that will stay in the studio always ready to go, and that sounds great. Thanks!
Gunnar's Lopapeysa looks cool. 👍 I wanted one like that but ended getting another. One can have them custom made but I found out about that 3 days before my flight back.
7 minutes into an 11 minute video to get to actual subject of the video is one of the main reasons why I don’t subscribe to channels like that. Good channels would at least tease the info in the beginning.
Totally unrelated to the video, but I just realized both you and Peter Mckinnon have produced the exact same number of RUclips videos (640) as of today. Thanks for sharing all of your great content!
Hey Matti! I'll be in Iceland next year, and I'm so pumped up about the first location you're at, next to the airport as you said. Can you tell me where is it? Thanks a lot!
Recommend anyone with an Avata go to an open field, fly nice and high up and try and replicate the dive bug. Fly fast forward for a moment for a little then hard turn left or right. Get a feel on how to recover if it happens to you. I've had about 30 flights on mine now and outside of trying to replicate it I haven't had it happen but now that I've experienced it I have a bit more of an idea on how to handle it if it happens. It can be recovered from but not if you're really low. Certainly good to be mindful of when flying
The problem is that it actually throttle down so I couldn’t control it. It would be fine if it just dove for a second but it literally makes it come down. Almost like it thinks it’s upside down or something.
@@mattih from what I've seen so far it actually seems like there's two different problems. One being more of a prop wash issue that can be recovered and then a more serious full-on nosedive/faulty sensor issue. I haven't been able to make mine so the throttle down yet. Certainly needs to be addressed by DJI
I tried it, its so easy to replicate. Even when flying slow and doing soft yaw turns it happens. Chrashed a few times to the ground because of this issue(no damage). Do you think dji will replace the drone when i send the footage and black box data even if the drone has no damage? (Btw i have care refresh)
@@notlkk just do hard turns while flying fast. Like 13m/s and then do a 180 turn. Dont just snap your yaw all the way. Just do a hard turn. Hope that helps. Some avatas doesnt have the problem.
Someone asked me what drone would be the best choice on social media that they would buy for me. Based on your video, I asked for avata. It never failed to amaze them. Thanks to your review. Im hoping they could fix this bug though.
It seems this is why they sell the avata with the motion controller and not the rc transmitter... has dji since fixed this issue? I'm about to get an avata but this is off putting
Travel Feels 😊
I totally feel the travel
Now that's a throwback lol
Awesome! Can someone link the IG accounts of the local guides?
hits hard :')
#nostalgic
So, there's no actual info in this video? I'm almost 4 mins in and there's nothing of substance. I'm watching before I buy, but not sure why.
skip to 7:00 for the flaw
Thanks
Thank you
I think a company such as DJI which is always implementing and wanting to improve would appreciate the honesty. If they take it, learn from it and fix it, it showcases a company that is not afraid to fail and take a hit for future progress.
Matti at 8:54 you mentioned the first DJI fpv losing control. That’s from the GoPro interfering with the gps module on the back/top. If the drone doesn’t have a gps connection then it assumes you’re in a no-fly zone (hence the lack of lateral movement options). It’s also a known issue and the work around is no GoPro mounted unfortunately…
Ugh good to know but annoying 😂
@@mattihI’m dealing with this right now too, trying out different mounts to maybe find a workaround (no luck yet). Had my fpv auto land 3ft from the edge of a lake last week, it was scary
Have you tried covering the gopro with tin foil or copper foil?
I believe that is incorrect, it happened to me last year when I got my drone and I didn't have any GoPro or anything else on it and I still see it happening to people a year later and DJI as usual just ignores these issues.
I've had the DJI FPV do the no lateral movement thing to me and I didn't have a GoPro or anything on it, just flying it as it came. I hope DJI fixes this soon because it makes me not want to fly it!
Yes, I’ve ran into this same issue several times. Unfortunately there’s no way for DJI to fix it. The reason is because the motors have a much lower voltage than the remote outputs. So when you max out on the remote the motors can’t take all the input and freak out. This is also why DJI only sells the Avata with the motion controller. They didn’t have motors powerful enough for the size but still shipped it out and covered it up with a motion controller. I would not recommend this drone.
Matti love the content. It’s amazing to see how far you’ve come. Much love!
Will Peeler
It can be fixed in software. On more configurable drones, this is something called dynamic idle. If the motor doesn't spin down that slow in the first place, it will not stall.
How do you know this Will? These are pretty big claims.
@@TuckerPearce he doesn't since his comments don't even have any basis in reality for electronics. The voltage output from the controller? What the hell is that, just a moron comment
You can get upgraded motors for the Avata but they make the issue worse, So the motors being under powered is not the issue.
@@Audi1Pete it's likely too low of an idle, and this can be addressed in software or esc config. there's no reason they can't provide a software fix for this.
1:30 .. Matti - " ... It went straight down"
Me - The software was made by Boeing or what? ... 737 MAX maneuver" 😂😂
This happened to me as well! It is when you are turning and you lose control. The balance in the drone sucks and when you turn to hard with even a bit of wind it happens. Its happened lots to me.
Same, nearly crashed mine into a rally car due to this. Hopefully nothing happened 🙏
Which controller were you using? Was it the remote 2? I haven’t had any problems with the motion controller.
DUDE. The grade and film style edit to the B-Roll of this video is absolutely phenomenal. Love love LOVE it!!!!
Loving the film grain 👌🏻💯
I have the exact same problem, but mine just goes full throttle upwards, completely randomly! No control possible anymore at all! 4 times I crashed it hard because I was flying inside and one time it went up to 500 meters when I was outside. Because the battery almost died it did a return to home. But we had to catch it with our hands because you can’t control it anymore. It won’t land. I find this a super unsafe drone and I’m sending everything back to DJI.
That's awesome seeing you guys travelling in Iceland again! Can't wait to see other episodes... Keep em coming! 😁👍
Great video! The bug fixes when you recalibrate the sticks!!
Do you think this would happen if you ONLY use the ( DJI FPV Motion Controller ) ? ? ? I'm new to the drone scene and just ordered my avata...
I don't think it's a bug as much as it's a desync or power issue. It seems to happen when you do a quick yaw turn and the front motor can't handle the ramp up in speed and shuts off.
Left Yaw and Propeller ducts have a greater effect on the underpowered motors. Add the Axis Motors and it’s fixed!
Matti these shots are epic!!! The whole video was nothing but bangers!!! So DOPE!!!!!
Looks like a normal cinewhoop thing while flying in manual mode... has to do with the prop guards and wind.
10:04! Peter McKinnon scream like that! 🤣😭🤣😭🤣 Oh men, so bad at drones, I feel like I don't wanna buy drones, I might have many times bad accident. 😭😭 Regrets on a beauty of bird eye view! 😅🤣
Some people are saying this is what happens with cinewhoops in high speed turns... my Flywoo Cinerace gets some prop wash but it doesn't fall out of the sky it just corrects itself
Loving the travel feels vibes!
Let’s go get some travel feels 😊
This has been talked about a lot, its because your taking a sharp turn. I thought they came out with an update that fixed it but I havent looked into it
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to sound arrogant, but Matt, if you're using manual mode, you need to make the turns with both stickers to the side, to apply tangency, if you just turn the sticker on the right, the drone will end losing support and falling, think that it is the same to make a curve with an indy car, the curve needs to have an angle so that it does not go off the track, applying the speed they usually run, different from the f1 car, which is needed decrease to make the turn, because it is straight, if you accelerate, it will go out, in the case of the drone, without it having this curve tangency, it will "roll over" in the air and turn upside down, losing the support, consequently falling...
Follow fpv pilots who put the image of the control in the videos, you will see that a curve is normally made with the two sticks directed to the side you want to turn
Been here since the Travel Feels days… this was a GREAT throwback to that time period. Awesome video, Matti. Love seeing some Matti and Pete adventures again.
So this happened in (M) mode? Maybe it would not happen in (N) or (S) mode? I ordered my avata - this video worries me. lol. 😮
dive bomb feature 😂 (10:01) - thx for the noice 👌
You guys are an inspiration..
This isnt a problem with the avata as much as its a problem with the way people fly it. Reality is its a cinewhoop and it has limitations just like any other cinewhoop.
The crash happens when the motor is overloaded which would be either of the front 2 motors. You're already ripping and then try to make a hard yaw movement that overloads the motor to the point where it cant keep up and just gives up. Some cinewhoops are better than others but overall this is a normal thing on a platform like this. Especially with underpowered motors and mavic bros who don't understand the performace of fpv drones.
I'm from Indonesia, I really want to have a DJI Avata because it's very good for shooting cinematic videos, best wishes always.
Travel Feels + Cinnamon Buns = Perfection!
The best way to kinda fix it for now is to lower the "yaw rate" cause it only happens on quick yaw moves...
What is yaw rate?
@@callmesirjustsir its basically the sensitivity of the yaw stick (normally left stick side to side) it can be changed in the drones settings. the Yaw Rate normally defines the maximum degrees that the drone rotates per second. and you can define for all 3 rotational axis.
i dont know if it’s just iceland color but the colorgrade is 👌
Dropping the Travel Feels throwback. 10/10 Matti!
😊 bringing it back
The trip looked insane! Keep up the incredible work👍🏻
It really really was 😊
It’s the high winds combined with yaw turns. When do a semi sharp turn and decent wind hits the duct guards it causes the Avata to crash like this.
Stoked to see what y'all get up to!
What a way to end a travel video. The last thing said was so meaningful, I cried. Good job boys. Good job.
Might have been the best vid you’ve ever done, so entertaining, and I’ve watched them all. Iceland for the win
"The Dive bomb feature" was a hilariously understated comment
All superhero are together
Stay safe guys. Thank you for sharing this amazing video. November moving to Canada and hope I can visit this place.
Not the title and video you want to see 1 week after buying the Avata🙈😅
Do you know if it can happen in N or S mode as well? Been thinking of flyging a bit indoor. But you don’t want this to happen in a middle of restaurant or a beautiful villa🙈
Only happen in M mode so far
@@jono_craztech Thank you🙏🏻
Did you happen to find a lens cap from a Panasonic HVX200? I lost 2 of them on a shoot on a glacier in Iceland in 2007... snowmobile crash.
Good times.
Glad you’re vlogging about this, hopefully it’ll help get DJI’s attention.
Hard to tell from video, but does appear you were in a bit of a yaw turn just prior to crash. Not sure it’s safe to say it happened completely randomly. These crashes seem to be induced by yaw turns, so just a heads-up flying your other ones. Hope it’s resolved soon m8!
We should open a class action. It is not safe, it happens often especially if you fly in manual mode at high speeds. This bug happens everytime the drone makes a washout especially going forward and then turning fast to go backward, in the moment you do that the drone flip side down directly to the ground for 10 meters at high speed, becase it accelerate itself, and you press the emergency button or no matter what you try to do the drone do not respond to the commands, it starts responding you only after a few seconds or meters, and if you are too close to the ground, it is too late, it will crash.
it happened to me too, lost it, glad i got rid of it. Never had this problem with DJI FPV
Great drone and I am loving mine. Knock on wood... I haven't had any problems yet and Im hoping they fix the reported bugs before I have an issue.
Love it man! Looking forward to watching the series!
4:48 🥺😭 My dream drone crush
I love these videos kkeep them coming :) Great job!
I've heard the "DJI crash Bug" is induced by hard Yaw turns. turning down the rates should prevent it from happening.
Awesome video as always😊, regarding Avata: have U tried to recalibrate the controller sticks? I’m asking because in both clips you had an error message on the screen about that.
This, if you’re getting this warning your sticks need to be calibrated, it’s hard to call it a bug when the drone is giving you big red warnings.
Love the Blue and Red Jacket throwback
MATTI I love to see the GRAIN!! I hope that trends across RUclips.. I 🖤 grain (great vid btw)
Love when y’all get together always a good laugh😂
The grain on the b-roll section was just 🤌🏻
Hey Matti, do you think the Avata is doing that because of the IMU? Did you calibrate the IMU after arriving in Iceland?
Absolutely beautiful work 🔥
Thanks dude 🙏🏻
That intro was truly nostalgic ❤
7:19 calibrate your remote see the stick error in the corner? I think there's more to it, but that's not helping the problem I'm sure.
Thank you for putting this issue out here, I hope @Dji comes to its attention
I would also like to add thank you for not being like some of these other guys that are blatantly just covering DJI because they send them free stuff
I’m sorry is this 2018?!? WE ARE BACK
2017 ;) blue and red puffs and alllllll 😊
You two are the coolest. Love the content!
This is the content I subscribe for 😁
I was already having Iceland withdrawals and now I feel them even more! Looking forward to the rest of the series!
Just had the same issue - first flight in M mode and it's broken! DJI needs to fix this!
Love ya Matt but you gotta calibrate your sticks mate, not saying it for sure caused the crashes but it’s certainly possible the drones getting mixed signals from what you’re actually trying to do and then wigs out.
This was a super well put together video!
Hey Matti,
Could you tell me what device you’re currently using to record your audio when you’re in the studio? I use the Zoom H6, but since I also use it for recording my musical performances, I’m in need of a device that will stay in the studio always ready to go, and that sounds great. Thanks!
What a trip!
Has the issue been resolved?
Gunnar's Lopapeysa looks cool. 👍 I wanted one like that but ended getting another. One can have them custom made but I found out about that 3 days before my flight back.
Stick errors send you straight into the beautiful Caribbean ocean 🌊 😅
Cool Video!!! Love Iceland!!!!
Thanks for the heads up! But wow what a delightful video. I wish all bad news came this deliciously packaged 😍
Hahaha yessss 💪
It's always good to have a dose of Travel Feels! The image quality is so tasty!
Man I missed this more than I thought. Glad to see the puffs and the travel feels back in action.
Thanks for you honesty bro! 👏🏼👏🏼
what do you like the most dji avatar or dji fpv drone
Love d footage 🥳
Great work 👊🏻🤩
Have this been fixed? I’m looking into getting this drone. I came across this video.
7 minutes into an 11 minute video to get to actual subject of the video is one of the main reasons why I don’t subscribe to channels like that. Good channels would at least tease the info in the beginning.
Totally unrelated to the video, but I just realized both you and Peter Mckinnon have produced the exact same number of RUclips videos (640) as of today. Thanks for sharing all of your great content!
Just silly question. Why do You need 4-6 of avata? I hope I understood correctly :)
OMG Travel Feels is back!
Loving the iceland series
Hi! Can you share on what the firmware version that happened?
Yeah, I was gonna get this drone, but I think I'll wait for the next model.
Hey Matti! I'll be in Iceland next year, and I'm so pumped up about the first location you're at, next to the airport as you said. Can you tell me where is it?
Thanks a lot!
Recommend anyone with an Avata go to an open field, fly nice and high up and try and replicate the dive bug. Fly fast forward for a moment for a little then hard turn left or right. Get a feel on how to recover if it happens to you. I've had about 30 flights on mine now and outside of trying to replicate it I haven't had it happen but now that I've experienced it I have a bit more of an idea on how to handle it if it happens. It can be recovered from but not if you're really low.
Certainly good to be mindful of when flying
The problem is that it actually throttle down so I couldn’t control it. It would be fine if it just dove for a second but it literally makes it come down. Almost like it thinks it’s upside down or something.
@@mattih from what I've seen so far it actually seems like there's two different problems. One being more of a prop wash issue that can be recovered and then a more serious full-on nosedive/faulty sensor issue. I haven't been able to make mine so the throttle down yet. Certainly needs to be addressed by DJI
I tried it, its so easy to replicate. Even when flying slow and doing soft yaw turns it happens. Chrashed a few times to the ground because of this issue(no damage). Do you think dji will replace the drone when i send the footage and black box data even if the drone has no damage?
(Btw i have care refresh)
@@christophhaas5696 please tell us how to replicate the problem.
@@notlkk just do hard turns while flying fast. Like 13m/s and then do a 180 turn. Dont just snap your yaw all the way. Just do a hard turn. Hope that helps. Some avatas doesnt have the problem.
"These tyres can drive OVER my Raptor" 😀
Accurate
love the videos you and pete make 🔥
Someone asked me what drone would be the best choice on social media that they would buy for me. Based on your video, I asked for avata. It never failed to amaze them. Thanks to your review. Im hoping they could fix this bug though.
Is it maybe remote control related, I’ve lucky not had it happen yet with the one handed controller.
Mine just wigged out on a tight u-turn in sport mode scoping out a river, lost transmission for seemingly no reason. Couldn't recover
Travel Feels = Visual Vibes
what type of grain did you use? 😍
Mix of dehancer and film convert
Cant wait for more Iceland spam from Pete and you Matti... btw the ending of this video is fire , like the Back to the future ending
I never had this issue, do you have a GoPro on it? For me this issue doesn't look to be related to the "sharp turn" issue, looks like something esle.
I love what I’ve seen from them so far..this is too bad. Thanks for the update 🙏
I built an old school dji flamewheel with a naza 2 flight controller, these types of issues go all the way back to when they first started.
Travel feels is back 😎🤟🏻
It seems this is why they sell the avata with the motion controller and not the rc transmitter... has dji since fixed this issue? I'm about to get an avata but this is off putting
Benjamin is awesome! I took one of his photography classes and I learned so much from him