That's very normal. I am not sure what is concerning about that. Most teenagers value their parents approval only second to their peers acceptance. And in this situation that force was so strong it forced her to kill her own child to keep her parents approval. Because remember... she is still a child and children want their parents approval.
People keep saying she “threw her baby away” but she took a living newborn baby boy, wrapped him tightly in a plastic trash bag, twisted it shut right, buried him under another bag of trash, and left him to suffocate to death. She didn’t just throw him away, she murdered him. IN A HOSPITAL where she could have just given him to a nurse and he would have been safe and helped. She could have been anonymous.
EXACTLY!! this case makes me so mad. that baby wouldve made someones life. theres so many other options and she didnt have to be involved. they have closed options.
I feel so deeply for the cleaning lady. As someone who has ptsd, i know that every time she changes her garbage at home or throws away something in public or even walks past a dumpster it will happen all over again in her head. My best wishes and empathy extended to all the people in the hospital. ❤
Yes I agree, I’ve had a patient of my put hands on me and I cried like a baby after shaking and all I was sooo triggered I was terrified out my mind that day.
Absolutely. If the cleaning lady found the baby alive, she would have done everything to keep that baby alive and not judge Alexi. The Cleaning Lady has emptied thousands of trash can but nothing could have prepared her for that horrible encounter. Nothing. My heart goes out to her.
I don't like to compare trauma. I've been through trauma and my trauma is valid, but if you asked my honest opinion, I would say that what this cleaning lady has been through is so much worse than what I've been through. Something happened to me at age 14 and I developed PTSD from it. I don't want to give away how old I am (I'm old, LOL) but after all of these years, certain things still trigger me. One of them is a certain song and I heard it while grocery shopping and had a full blown panic attack. That was only about a year ago. Decades have passed and I'm still being triggered by things. I just pray that this woman gets the help she needs. I know money won't fix anything, but if she had a GoFundMe, I would absolutely donate to it. Therapy can be expensive, so maybe it would help with that. I work in healthcare myself and I actually have pretty crappy insurance. You'd think that healthcare workers would have good insurance, but that's not necessarily true. Hopefully whatever treatment she needs is fully covered. Or she could use the money to go on a trip somewhere. Nothing is going to fix what she's been through, but maybe taking a dream vacation would at least help her relax for a little bit. This case is ongoing, so it's not over for her yet. (In reality, it will never be over for her.) She's still going to have to relive this when it goes to trial. I have a feeling that they'll end up showing her horrible pictures of the bathroom and the trash can and even the baby. They'll ask her things like, "Is this what he looked like when you found him?" My God! It's so horrifying. She's going to be traumatized all over again.
@@Kristine_202 You expressed and painted the picture so clearly. Absolutely on point. This was a horrific thing to see and experience. The cleaning lady had already gone through a trauma the year before when her male partner took his life. That was an event she was carrying every day of her life. She was asked if she would be okay taking this job because of the way her partner died. She said yes. I am guessing she took the position because the salary was good and she would be busy and around other people which would keep her mind occupied. No way did she ever imagine she would encounter what did. I too want for her to get therapy before, during, and after the trial, if there is one because every trash can n that hospital is a trigger for her. And the added trauma is that the grandmothers are yet to shed a tear for their grandson from what I have observed.
@@yasmina1994 Because she did kill the baby, she was right next to a room full of doctors that whole ass time, yes she was young, I'm sure it was a fucking horrible thing to mentally go through for everyone involved, but she could've easily gotten help instead of walking back in the room like nothing happened while full well knowing her own newborn was suffocating in that trash bag. Being nineteen isn't an excuse for literal murder dude. 💀💀💀
@@Quandell-t8j my question is why people are acting like the mom killed the baby... not the actual killer ? i said she was 19, and adult. she knew what she was doing
The fact that Alexie would rather do that to her baby than face her mom, who, after hearing her own daughter “miscarried” her GRANDCHILD, started to scold her is mind blowing to me. Wow.
@@TaraLSithat was know after . But at the Time of the confrontation in the room , she said the child didn’t cry , was dead so it was assume that it was a miscarriage . And the Mom scold her child thinking at that moment it was not a murder . It was learn after that it was a lie .
Ok but nobody talking about the boyfriend and his mom attitude. The boyfriend is not sad, horrified, crying, worried etc. Neither her mom. Him and his mom look relief??? As if Alexi took a burden off of them. Actually all of them give off that impression.
People keep saying the hospital didn't do their job and should have done a dialation exam. She refused. You know touching a patient without their consent is illegal as hell, right?
I wonder had they made the mom leave the room and talked to her one on one if that may have changed things. I think keeping the mom in the room made care more difficult and made her hide things.
@@furygeistThey couldn't have. Only the patient decides who gets to be in the room. There are situations when the doctors would insist everyone gets out but not in this case. There are people present even when someone is in active labour. It's the patient's call. Asking the mother to leave on their own can backfire on the medical staff in a big way.
I just can’t get over the fact that her mother and the bfs mother had the nerve to be laughing while knowing the seriousness of the situation. It’s just Mind Blowing
@@NelehLove9313I’m sure all of it is they’re just pointing out a part that they noticed. I know this situation is something many feel very passionate about, but remember to be kind to others. They never said it was okay or the rest wasn’t mind blowing.
Some people laugh when nervous, anxious…etc It doesn’t mean the BF mom thought it was funny she probably didn’t know what else to do. Now Alexee’s mom oh she rubs me the wrong way. That lady probably doesn’t have a soul inside of her! Weird asx family!
Thing is, by right, Alexee didn’t need to have her mom in the room with her. They could have easily asked her to leave to give her some privacy. It’s super common for teens to be afraid to admit in front of their parents that they are sexually active. Healthcare workers know this. The staff had a big suspicion she was pregnant, and when the pregnancy test came back positive, if they had kicked Rosa out and talked to Alexee about her options (including leaving the baby for adoption without anyone knowing), she might not have felt the need to kill Baby Doe in the first place. They knew Rosa was most likely a strict parent judging by how adamant the two of them were that Alexee was a virgin. They knew there would be serious repercussions for her if Rosa knew the truth. It baffles me how they thought putting the patient in an unnecessarily stressful and potentially dangerous/traumatic situation (that could've been 100% avoided!!!) is "acting in the patient's best interests". I don’t think the doctor and nurses were the bad guys here, they were trying to help. But it is nevertheless a serious oversight on their part.
@@noidea42541000% she could’ve gone to the hospital herself alone if she really didn’t want her mother to know. She was 19!!! Not a child at all but she knew exactly why she said she was a virgin went to the restroom and killed her baby. No excuses!
Don't be ridiculous. She came in with a back pain? They do pregnacy test if it is a belly ache or so If you go with a headache to doctor and you are a woman in childbearing age should they give you a stripe to pee on to check if you are pregnant? Let's be for real
Especially while in a hospital, she’s so damn selfish she could of got the baby the helped he or she needed and forgot about her lying ass self for once!
She was in shock, panicking and didn't know what to do. Humans aren't known to make the best decisions when they panic, and especially during labour. This was an incredibly traumatic event for Alexie and she does not deserve jail time for this
He had morphine in his system. I’m angry they gave her that before checking the pregnancy test results. Big oversight. So (I believe?) he still would’ve needed medical care, at least monitoring, but I agree he should have survived to have a life.
regardless if you want your kid to be sexually active or not, HAVE THE SAFE SEX TALK, and if your kid ends up pregnant, you support them, not scare them
According to what she said to the nurse she had been on birth control and then got off them to take weight loss pills, so I think all parents in these two parents lives were aware
exactly!! as parents, they should be the first to talk to their kids about safe sex and the right sexual values. if not, then society will teach them the hard way!
@@showshortage4684 It's amazing to hear so many people talk about how parents should be supportive if their child is going through an unwanted pregnancy. It's nice to hear because while I was growing up there was absolutely no question that my parents would have shunned me had I given them the news that I was expecting. It's funny because I'm in my 30s now and married and I still get this weird sense of dread thinking about telling them my husband and I are expecting a baby because then they'll know I'm sexually active. So stupid.
My son’s gf got ( unplanned) pregnant last year and as shocked and concerned as I was I bend over backwards to support them. My granddaughter is 12 days old today and by far the best “ accident” they could’ve ever had!!! As a parent you support your kids not scare the hell out of them. The mother is at fault in this as well . I hope they throw the book at both of them!!!
The fact that Alexi and her mother are suing the hospital and staff for wrongful death is beyond me. Not once did Rosa ask ANY questions about the child. Even if you take into account everything that the defense attorney claims, WHY DID SHE TRASH HER BABY!
Wow the insanity..... imagine if they planned the whole thing to try the lawsuit. Someone just lock em both away cuz who knows what happened between mom and daughter
Some legal experts, including a judge, say this is to be expected. Alexi's lawyers probably would have recommended it, they have to come out of the gate running. It shows an adamant no admission of guilt. But that is what the legal system has come to. Many things in legal proceedings don't make any sense to people with any level of ability to feel compassion. From what I've heard, the hospital is most likely at no fault, and will be found as such. Even the toxicology report with painkillers administered shows no wrong doing. But who knows. We weren't there and will have to wait and see. I hope the poor baby has justice, however that plays out, in the best way possible.
I agree with this, child abandonment is beyond crazy, i’ve never expected such a thing, that poor baby healthily came here for minutes until his last breath, shes a true monster, she definitely did have other options!!
Don't worry the hospital lawyers would rip them apart just by using the body cam and cctv records. But the audacity is beyond imagination she murdered a living and breathing baby then wants to saw those who discovered her crime to profit from them. Some humans are indeed scarier than demons.
Omg. I just went looking for an update and on Reddit someone posted Rosa’s Facebook post “balloon release for my beloved Baby Alex” and a photo of white balloons and an angel wing shaped balloon. Wild. You didn’t seem to love him too much when he was dead in a hospital trash bag.
@@muzziekayaaa yes they’re treating it like he died from natural causes or some thing 😭 I guess their defense is that it’s the hospital’s fault (which is insane) so I guess it makes sense in that context. So gross.
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@@Lyla8728 Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. (Revelation 3:15-18) you cannot live for this world and not try to stop sinning (being cold) and only believing in God(hot) without turning from sin or sinning and saying God will forgive you after or not read the Bible, pray, worship/obeying God. Which is being a lukewarm. If we are neither cold or hot, God will spit us out his mouth. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. ” Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished. Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before before a fall. Genesis 1:26-27 - “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. Jesus is coming back soon!! Repent and believe!! Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you 🫶🏽 Plis read revelation 3:15-18 on google if you don’t have a Bible. (Exodus 20:7) You shall not invoke the name of the LORD, your God, in vain. Please don’t use Gods name in vain, it’s dangerous Has a nation ever changed its gods? (Yet they are not gods at all.) But my people have exchanged their glorious God for worthless idols. Jeremiah 2:11) having idols of any kind isn’t good 🙅♀️ Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. (Jeremiah 16:20) HAVING IDOLS IS A SIN JEREMIAH 16:20 , JEREMIAH 2:11 Revelation 3:15-18 explains that we can’t be cold and hot at the same time which is being a lukewarm. In other words, if we are hot, which is really repenting and turning from sin) if we are cold we just completely don’t really follow God. If we mix those together it makes a lukewarm which they will be spat out Gods mouth and won’t inherit the kingdom of heaven. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.John 3:16. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13 Romans 8:38-39 .. John 3:16 .. Revelation 3:15-18 Corinthians 6:9.. John 15:13 Psalms 23:4 Psalms 23:4 || Yea, though I walk through The Valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; rod and thy staff they comfort me. Deuteronomy 31:8. The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged. Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:6-7 JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON!!REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!🫶🏽🫶🏽 ✝️❣️..😊😊😊
I was 19 when I conceived my baby and gave birth at age 20. I don’t think I would be thatttt stupid or sheltered as to think any of her options were worse than throwing a child in the trash. Especially with how much the staff offered help. I think her mom is the key to most all of the behavior
I had my first kid at 19, just shy of 20. Almost the same as you and at the same age as the girl in the video. I was independent and living with my then boyfriend ( now husband) which obviously made it easier than for this teen but I still come from a highly religious family and we were "living in sin". So, I knew it would be bad for my kid and myself. The pregnancy was literally at one of the worst time possible in my life when we were getting ready to move to another country and I was definetely not financially ready for being a mother. Then to top this all of I only discovered the pregnancy at almost 14 weeks bc I had heavy bleeding that I mistook for normal period. So it ended up being considered a high risk pregnancy where me and my baby were both at risk at some points. The pregnancy news hit me like a rock. I immediately thought that I would end up alone bc I assumed my bf would leave me ( he never showed any inclination for that it was just my panicking brain), that my religious family wouldn't help us ever and then after digesting that news I had to deal with a high risk pregnancy. Me not following the instructions would've meant almost a certain late term abortion. The idea of doing it in purpose never even crossed my mind. So, given the months bedridden at the hospital and at home and the fear of losing my kid that gripped me since the beginning that had me follow every single thing by the book... I just cannot understand this teen at all. It does appear like she's afraid of the mother though and I obviously don't know if she had some mental breakdown to end up doing that...
My parents were 19 and 20 when my sister was born and I came only a 2.5 years later. My mom had a pregnancy between us, she had to have an abortion for for health reasons. Even though my mom's parents were very religious and it was late 80's, early 90's in a country fresh out of communism she had options even then. Someone in 2023 has so many more.
I think she could have be dissociate af, like the girl who gave birth to her baby at the bathroom of her prom, she got the baby, she throw it to the trash and keep dancing, she was so dissociate that she didn't even consider the baby a baby, honestly this seems like that, because going to the hospital was such a stupid idea if she was planning to do this
Your experience isn’t everyone else’s experience. Congrats on not having a controlling, abusive mother but some people have to live with them. Some children are more sheltered than others.. duh.
@@tamaramaureirajimenez977i was thinking the same! She probably didn’t even register that the baby was a human life, just like the girl in the prom story.
I've been following this case pretty closely. According to some of the research I've seen, her classmates/friends were interviewed by the police. They said she KNEW she was pregnant and planning to name the baby Alex, whether it was a girl or boy. That was BEFORE her arrest. So seeing that "memorial" is so much more disturbing.
She named him Alex Fierro after she didn't want bf's name on death or birth certificate 🤷😢yet they're Alexee and Dylan are suing the hospital for wrongful death,her lawyer Mitchell found loopholes to reduce her charges enough for her to walk on a technicality and blame the hospital.
@jenniferornelas4151 She may not get off on the technicalities she is aiming for. Morphine is far less likely the cause of death than her taking diet pills in an attempt to hide the pregnancy. It really is gonna depend on the jury I think.
@@HandbagDiva we will see our laws suck and it's yesterday's news sad to say, but she won't get as much as deserved,her lawyer found a loophole and people will be super angry but it's very possible she will on a technicality.
That makes the whole situation even weirder and frustrating because naming her child meant she was probably planning on welcoming her child into the world and keep him so why would she go to such measure to get rid of him? It’s so mind boggling honestly
@@ßadpatty fully grown? at a minute old? truthfully, it's no different from a fetus. People who consider it fine to abort are hypocrites for feeling horrified at this one's termination. emotions? what emotions? the same ones a fetus has if it kicks inside the womb? does it stop us from seeing it as less than human? no. and i find nothing wrong with that. but the same logic applies to this "baby." I have far more sympathy for the panicking, ignorant girl than the fetus.
Imagine if they told the mother of the legal adult to exit the room before announcing sensitive health information and then offered her counseling and support before telling the mother.
exactly, I’m pretty sure she reacted this way because of the tension and reaction of her mother. She probably saw no other way out of that situation, and the baby suffered for it :/
@@Bunny_McSnuggles thank you… my dad was 19 when I was born, and his parents were NOT happy. he still realized because they chose to keep me to full term, and bring me into the world, he had to be a father. There was no going back. I have no sympathy for this girl. She had so many options prior to this. Not to mention there are more than cases like this than this one. She was at prom not too long ago. She killed her baby because she didn’t want to be a mom, she wasn’t ready to be an adult, point blank period.
The two mothers smiling and laughing at each other while their grandchild lies dead in one of the hospital rooms sent literal chills down my spine. I had to pause the video to take several deep breaths in order to calm myself down. To think that they aren't even trying to hide the fact that they give absolutely zero shits about the poor baby.
@@lolboy-642 Sadly this could be a case of neither mom wanted to take responsibility for their Grandchild, so it was just a "happy" convenience for them. It's clear Alexie is not mentally stable, so it would probably come down to the Grandmothers to take care of the baby.
This whole video was pretty hard to watch in itself for me too and I had trouble watching and I dont understand how grown adults dont see that there are both sides.Clearly both mothers seemed like phsycopaths and Alexia was most likely so scared and had been through abuse which caused such behaviors.Alexia seems like a socio path.But I also thought of other possible scenarios and how there are cult behaviors,such as people who forcefully make their child have babies to later make them kill them as sacrifices even if this sounds far fetched this looks like it could have been a possibility due to my observance of alexia’s mother and her bf mother.The step dad was sketchy too “even if he was crying”.
That genuinely shocked me. Whether they have a shot about the baby is irrelevant to me, the kid still died, was potentially murdered, and you’re sitting there fucking laughing ?!
As a former Emergency Department triage nurse, the number of patients that I’ve had that flat out lied to my face during triage is staggering. Side note: that defense lawyer’s strategy is laughable. Thank you for covering this case.
So happy to hear somebody say his defense is laughable. I have been watching COURT-tv and some many people are agreeing with him. She lied to the STAFF. They could not properly do their job. Alexee and her boyfriend are now suing the hospital for wrongful death!
I 100% agree that Alexee KNEW the baby was alive and chose to kill it, when she could’ve alerted medical staff and & anonymously surrendered her baby. I’m not sure what the hospital could’ve done to prevent her from killing her baby in a state of panic or post partum psychosis. Considering that Alexie seemed more scared of her mother than jail, was it possible for A&E staff to ask her mother to leave the room while Alexie answered sexual health questions? Whether or not Alexie knew she was pregnant before active labour, Alexie probably wouldn’t tell the truth while her mother was present when Alexie was already lying to her mother about being a virgin until the crime happened.
I agree he has the audacity to say that they gave her morphine and painkillers and how that is dangerous to the baby. Did he not do any research because they give women morphine and painkillers during early labor. I was given a 20 mg Percocet told to go home and wait until my contractions were just minutes apart. Also the fact that he is trying to blame the hospital staff it's ridiculous there are cameras everywhere and shows what she did and the bodycam footage shows she has absolutely no remorse for what she did she wasn't even crying it was fake
I have never seen someone admit guilt louder via deflection than the mother in this case. It’s so obviously they planned to make it look like she didn’t know when they both did.
As a medical student who’s only started experiencing the hospital life for around 2 years, I can’t imagine the emotions and trauma all the medical staffs must be going through. I teared up listening to their thoughts at end of the video. I think I would crumble if I were in their positions
You’re gonna be expected to work through this, have no emotion, push it back, get the job done. Don’t let them take that humanity from you. Don’t let them tell you that being affected by what you see makes you any less of a doctor because it in fact makes you a better one. I’ve seen some doctors completely shut themselves off so it doesn’t effect the efficiency of them providing care for their patients but stepping away for a minute to process when you can is probably healthier. And if you ever feel like you’re going to crumble, you’ll have a team of nurses and techs and aides there to pick you back up.
@@MsTalkingbook Even though I should have expected it, I was still shocked when I heard about the lawsuit. How dare they?! Wrongful death? Are you kidding me?! The hospital staff should be able to sue Alexee for all of the trauma she caused them. I know, that's not how things work, but if anyone deserves compensation, it's them.
57:03 you can hear the step dads sniffles. That’s a real human right there. The fact that her mother is acting like that is disgusting, I feel terrible for the step dad.
I spent more than 20 minutes in the bathroom on my period because it's hard for me to even go number 2 when I feel so much pain (Cramps and soreness in the wooha area and butt) when I try to push it takes a while for me to get everything out and be done.
Teen with a presumably abusive/toxic mom, high on MORPHINE (!!), going through chronic pain and possibly affected by postpartum kills baby, and we still treat her like a vicious murderer, THAT is crazy to me. Did she have other options? yes. was what she did wrong? yes. But is it worth essentially ending her life over? Rehabilitation also includes criminals recieving the proper education to be able to re-enter society when their sentence is finished. And speculation is pretty gross about this case imo. Chemical imbalances sadly drive a person to do things they'd never even think about with a sane mind.
@@mellow1821 girl you cannot possibly be defending her rn... then where is the remorse? this wasn't just some silly mistake. she didn't just throw the baby and leave. she intentionally took her time to suffocate the baby in a trash bag, put more trash bags on top of him and paper towels to hide it. if you think that is in any way excusable, im begging you please do not have any children. you should be the one in a rehab centre right now getting the help that you so clearly need
I've been a housekeeper for 4 years at a hospital and work specifically in the labor & delivery and neonatal units. We are trained to throw out and wipe down EVERYTHING in areas with heavy biohazard, and we are constantly trashing out waste, linen, and contaminated products in our areas. With this, you get used to the different weights of filled waste bags and can sometimes clock out what makes them heavy. However, if a bag is oddly heavy, we can check to see if something important may have been accidently thrown away. So, I commend Leela for her thoroughness, and I wish her and the rest of the hospital staff the best in getting through this tragedy.
The mother of Alexie is unbelievable. She never asked about her grandbaby and the other grandmother stayed quiet. I would have fainted if were the grandmother of an issue like that. Rose was a heartless person
@@isabelwilliams8072Not only that I believe the mother told that she-devil daughter pof hers to get rid of it by any means necessary but the daughter got caught trust me that wicked lien mother knew exactly what was going on!! 😮
@@MiotaLee There is even a photo of her in her cheerleader uniform at school looking around 6 months. There was definitely a bump, so it makes no sense if nobody new.
@@jesikkahigh6886 there’s several pictures like that, but yes the one in her cheerleading uniform is most obvious. That’s why I don’t understand why this creator keeps saying that she “didn’t look pregnant”. Did she look like she was a humongous, ready to pop, nine months? Eh, that’s up to everyone’s own pov. But to say she didn’t look AT LEAST a solid 5 to 6 months is completely absurd.
The fact that the step father is the only one showing any emotion- any humanity- is haunting. Hearing him try to hold back his tears while the baby is being discussed was heartbreaking.
Safe Haven Laws: She could have given birth in the bathroom, handed the baby over, and reminded them this is confidential and she doesn't want her mom to know. Baby could have lived, been given away in secret that night, and the staff could have said it was something else like a ruptured cyst due to confidentiality. But no, she chose infanticide...
@@sadcodplayerhonestly if I was her, I would’ve tried to do a lot of research on how to give away the baby silently. I’m 16. My mind would never go to literally strangling my child (and I don’t even like kids). It sucks how she didn’t even feel safe enough to confide in her mother so much that she would rather be seen as a murderer.
@@imunderyourbed7577 do we know how the baby died? im not up-to-date with the case but i don't think she strangled it...and you absolutely cannot speak to what you would do in that situation if you have never experienced it. but yes it is a shame that she couldn't confide in her mother
i 1000% believe the mom is the main factor behind her daughter's decision. her behaviour is beyond strange and indicative of an extremely controlling parent. i think alexee did what she did out of panic bc she didn’t know she could give up the baby without informing her mom and she was terrified of her finding out. it’s a horrific, inhuman way to die, let alone for a child. terrible situation. edit: since y’all love to interpret things in the worst way possible, let me clarify. I AM NOT EXCUSING ALEXEE'S ACTIONS. what i am saying is that i believe her mother was the main motivating factor that led her to make the choices she made. dismissing the situation as “she's an adult, she’s just evil and loves killing babies” is not helping anyone or anything. we need to understand WHY these things happen or they will keep happening.
@ImaginaryFriendxx no daughter would rather kill her baby than to ask her mom for help, her mother most likely demonised teen pregnancy and that led her daughter to commit the act. Her daughter is at fault for committing the act, but her mother is also partially at fault for making her feel as if she HAD to commit the act
@ImaginaryFriendxx all around, it's a super weird situation and the only one who we know was completely was innocent was the baby that was killed a few minutes after their birth
The mother knew, they all knew, the boyfriend, the mother-in-law they all knew. Rip to the innocent baby who paid the price by losing his life in such a horrific way 😢
1. She wanted to go yo prom 2. She was allowed to go to prom 3. Her boyfriend didn’t break up with her. 4. The boyfriend was allowed to go to prom with her. Everyone was in on it.
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140nah the boyfriend was probably just glad that he didn’t have to be involved in raising a kid i doubt he knew about the pregnancy
I'm a doctor in Panama and sadly cases like this are quite common here😞. We have learned not to believe young women when they say they are not pregnant and still do a pregnancy exam. Sad reality of living in a place with very poor public education facilities, non existent sexual education, and illegal abortion.
The Uniited States seems to be right on your heels for the same wiilful ignorance. Overturning Roe v. Wade. Right-wingers and religious nutjobs pushing for a nationwide abortion ban. Abstinance-only education. Birth control is next on the hit list. There are people in this country that want to make sure that EVERY sex act has the chance of conception -- regardless of the mother's age, who the father is, or the circumstances. If you have sex, you better be prepared to be parents.
También soy de Panamá y como duele oír esos casos, lo peor es que no se habla de estos por ningún lado, todo el mundo quiere fingir que no suceden ---- I am also from Panama and it hurts to hear about these cases, the worst thing is that these topics are not talked about anywhere, everyone wants to pretend that they do not happen
My dad is Panamanian, a few years ago my abuela who lives in Panama found a baby in a dumpster 😢 luckily the baby was still alive and crying and was rushed to a hospital and survived but it’s awful that it happened
Alexee's step father in the waiting room was continuously wiping away tears. It's crazy that he was the only one that showed that emotion. I know people handle these high stress, really bad situations differently but, that man cared and understood the weight of it all. He wanted to know about the baby. Her mom's reactions and things she said were so strange to me and it bothered me alot. The entire situation is so horrific. The little baby boy deserved a happy life.
@@s0ne011. because he was whipping . A little weird right there. 2. Why did alexee didn’t wanted her bf to be listed on the baby’s death certificate? Whyy if he was the father ? 3. This more like a question … was the baby cremated cause if he was why? Like why???
As a social worker who has worked in child protection, I am sick and tired of people blaming the hospital staff. It is Alexee alone who is responsible for the death of her baby.
That teen definitely needed help, but "mothers" are expected to not be traumatized and just love the child. As a social worker you should be more concerned about why she (herself a child) was so much under pressure, that she thought she only can safe her life by hurting the child. The adults let her down.
@@insideAdirtyMind respectfully, she was an adult. i don't care who you are, you first thought after having a baby should not be to stick it in a fucking trash bag. that's vile and sick. if she had just given the babies to the doctors, or a nurse, or someone, all of it could have been avoided. instead she stuck her baby in a trash bag. lets take a moment to acknowledge the fact that her issues with her mom are issues. not necessarily the cause. the only person you can control is yourself. now on a totally different note, she stuck her child in a trash can, and referred to the baby multiple times as 'it'. her way of brushing it off and making it seem like the situation isn't as bad as it is, (which is a manipulation tactic) and trying to drive the point home 'it wasn't crying or breathing'. ok as it stands that may be true, but you still put him in a fucking trash can. just like those nurses said, she knew perfectly well what she was doing was wrong. the fact that her mother was also referring to the baby as 'it' but also scolding her daughter was weird to me too. i do think however that it was weird how she was scolding her daughter for not telling her that she was pregnant, but not scolding her for putting him in a trash can. as it stands, (and scream at me all you want for this) trauma is not a valid excuse, or a excuse in general, to put your child in a trashcan. period. i know plenty of people who are traumatized, and they would still have the sense to not put their babies in a trashcan. if she had come out of the bathroom, and handed it to someone, they would have still chalked it up to just a mis carriage. (not saying that mis carriages aren't tramautic as fuck, just saying even someone with no common sense wouldn't have put their child in a trash can.) to the person I @ed, sorry for coming off so aggressive, you are entitled your opinion like I am to mine.
@@insideAdirtyMind she's not a child she choose to have sex and theres always a chance of getting pregnant. A baby is not something you can take back. She became a mom when she got pregnant a.d she should of protected her baby I was 19 with my child was born.
@@insideAdirtyMind your logoc is off. So any traumatic early years means you get a pass to murder your infant? Ridiculous. Many social workers including myself have experienced traumatic pasts but use the experience to help others and not murder. No social worker is a psychiatric doctor and we don't have to diagnose a client and no past traumatic experience can ever excuse murdering children. We work to prevent harm to children. Alexee isn't a child. No baby deserves to be stuck in a bin and suffocated. I will say it again there is no excuses for any parent abusing or murdering a child. None!
I am livid with this case. I can’t believe that the stepdad is the ONLY person visibly upset and crying. SHE WAS IN A HOSPITAL. As a mom, yes postpartum psychosis is real, BUT I also can’t imagine throwing a baby away in a trash can. She has a voice, she could’ve used it to simply say “help me” and they would’ve.
you cant say "yes postpartum psychosis is real" than add but. psychosis makes you do things you would never do in your sane mind and if someone is going through psychosis they are not going to be thinking logically enough to ask for help. they are literally experiencing psychosis. asking for help isnt that simple which is why so many people hurt themselves and others instead of asking for help.
@@babypeach3321she committed a murder but people have been found not guilty because of insanity so i would bet she could just need therapy and not jailtime
@@edenisok894 I do have to add. Being found not guilty due to insanity is not straightforward in court. That argument works in case of delusions, but if there is any possibility you could think, that argument is thrown out. Her doing multiple steps to get rid of the baby, lying about what she was doing, being aware of her surroundings, etc. are already things that crumble that defense. Pregnancy does add even more layers though
The people that don’t agree with you, yes psychosis is real BUT you can only be not responsible for a crime if you literally don’t know what is right and what is wrong. Yes there is temporary insanity but that’s extremely hard to prove. So don’t say there is no “but” because there very much is.
I've watched maybe two of your videos and I've gotta say... you have a way with telling these stories that's unexplainable. The detail. The depth of emotion. The way you speak. It's very professional and alluring to the story. Thank you for your hard work.
I would mostly agree except they aren't very professional because she inserts her emotions/opinions/characterizations to color the stories in very specific ways pretty much every time. Which is fine, that's her style, but it isn't professional, it's sensational.
Honestly it seems that her mom’s initial reaction to her pregnancy is the catalyst for her trying to get rid of it. It’s very sad that they couldn’t reassure her that it wasn’t the end of the world when she found out
yeah, while was she did was absolutely horrendous, i still feel sympathy for her. so many non-violent options but she was made to feel like she could only chose the worst one.
Sorry but I have zero sympathy. New Mexico has abortion on demand up until birth. Lexi could have had an abortion at anytime before this and her mom would have been none the wiser. She also could have left the child at the hospital and no one would have cared. Instead she chose to lie and murder her child.
Never blame the hospital staff. It is not their fault that she killed that poor baby. She made that choice herself. She didn’t even make any attempt to help them save the baby and give him the life he deserved. May he rest in eternal peace and unite with a family that can love him to their fullest extent
Well think they mean they should’ve been more aware something was up and done something sooner because it was said Alexi was in the bathroom for 20 minutes. That’s way too long. They should’ve went in after 10 minutes at least. -------- Update: just was reminded that she said she was constipated.. I forgot about that when I did my comment. But makes sense as to why they waited so long. Situation is just crazy and sad
@@miriamschiro8585no because who in a million years would've expected such a horrific murder to suddenly happen as the hospital, hospital is definitely not at fault
@@miriamschiro8585she said she was constipated. it isn't uncommon to be in the bathroom for more than 10 min. after the 20 minutes was when they heard the flushing + paper towel dispenser.
That hospital & their staff is not responsible for what Alexee did. She lied to them from the very beginning. She is an adult. She knew she was pregnant. Nothing excuses her for committing 1st degree murder. I hope she rots in prison for years & years
There has been an update that pertains to what you were talking about near the end: They released the baby's toxicology report and he had a tiny (insignificant) amount of morphine in his system. I'm sure the defense will try to twist it and say that's what killed him, since they're blaming the hospital for everything, but it was literally nanograms worth of morphine. However, he also had nanograms of phentermine in his system, and the hospital did not give that to Alexee. So what that proves is that she actually was on diet pills, but not just any diet pills, prescription diet pills that are a controlled substance because they are in the amphetamine family, and are contraindicated in pregnant women. That finding has caused SO many additional questions. Where did she get them? No ethical doctor would prescribe them to a woman without doing a pregnancy test first. (Although there are plenty of unethical doctors out there.) Was she buying them off of the street? And, as you said, was she taking those drugs to try to hide the weight that she was gaining from the pregnancy? Or did she know they were bad for pregnant women and hoped they would cause a miscarriage? There are plenty of weight loss drugs out there, she took the one that people often refer to as "legal meth." That's significant. There are a lot of unanswered questions in this case, and I have a feeling that even more shocking information is going to come out.
I was given morphine while in labor bc I didn't want an epidural the 1st time. I was 20. They know what they are doing. The normal dosage given to the mom, even for back pain. Isn't enough to cause harm to the baby. Not to mention if you listened to the description the baby was breathing hense how the plastic was able to cause suffocation. Meaning born alive. She murdered him....instead of giving him a fair shot. We have safe haven laws...a hospital is one of the best approved locations to surrender your baby with no repacussions. It's a law that's not new and has been around to help people in the situations and to help cut down on horrific crimes like this! What this young woman did was vile.
@@GingerThereforeNoSoul Absolutely! It's not the best idea in the world to be give a pregnant woman morphine later on in the labor, it can technically affect the baby's breathing. But it's pretty common to give it in early labor. And the tests have been done: He had a tiny, insignificant amount in his system and he died because he suffocated in a trash bag. I hate her lawyer. He was talking about how it's all the hospital's fault and morphine is contraindicated in pregnant women. I've worked in the medical field for over 20 years. That's just not true. And you don't need an MD to know that. (I don't have one.) I'm pretty sure you can find that out from a quick Google search. Also, she was an adult and she went to the hospital for pain. It was her responsibility to tell them, "BTW I'm pregnant." I know they're claiming that she didn't know, but no one is buying that. MAYBE the mom didn't know. Alexee definitely knew. I kind of hope they stream this trial because I can't wait to see the prosecution obliterate the defense's "expert" witnesses. I want to hear the doctor say that you can't give morphine to a pregnant woman. Really?! Because it's literally done every single day. 🤦♀
@Lang172588 me too. I hope to watch the trial....and you're correct it can possibly affect their Apgar scores...like my little ones' first score was just one point off from perfect....but they do them multiple times...and he passed. Then, he failed his first hearing test. Stressed me out....my grandmother was there...sneezed while the nurse held him, and he got so startled he woke up crying...and the nurse was like...I have a feeling he'll pass it later....which he thankfully did. Her lawyer is disgusting, but that's what they aren't meant to do, unfortunately. Hopefully, it's a jury trial....and they don't play that game. I hope there's a few mothers in that jury.
@@jennibishop718 That was what I suspected happened. If the mom didn't know she was pregnant (which seems impossible, but let's assume for argument's sake), she seems like the kind of person who would be concerned with her daughter gaining weight. How many times in that bodycam footage did she mention that Alexee was a cheerleader? Yeah, lady, we know. You've told everyone.
Red flag her dad beat her so bad that she needs to see a chiropractor, but he still has joint custody of her? And how can you have custody of someone 19 years old?
@@JJdear2 That person is saying it anywhere that brings up the stepdad. They are either a troll or just sexist since apparently men can't openly cry without something fishy going on.
Rosa honestly reminds me of my own mother. I got pregnant at 17, my mom knew I had a boyfriend and never spoke about s*x with me. When I had to admit to her that I was pregnant she yelled at me and blamed it all on me telling me that I didn't even know how badly I ruined my life. There was no sympathy and no comfort from her. My boyfriend (now husband) and I had to figure everything out ourselves for the sake of our daughter. My mother literally pretended like I wasn't pregnant the whole time. I feel so sorry for all the young women who go through their pregnancies alone. I'm in no way excusing Alexee, but I do think with guidance she would have made better choices and at least not murder her son. Truly a heartbreaking situation.
@@xVadRay wow you're so pleasant. No I didn't expect her to just take care of everything for me, but she could have talked to me and just supported me through it. It's the lack of any empathy from her which ps she got pregnant herself at 18. I just wanted her to care that's all. My boyfriend and I both worked and moved out ourselves, I finished school myself and took care of my baby when she was born.
I’m sorry your mom failed you, she should have at least taken the time to educate you to prevent teen pregnancy or provided emotional support when you found out you were pregnant. Every child deserves a parent who will actually care for them and educate them with love and be there when they need support. Alexi clearly didn’t have that and while it doesn’t excuse her actions, it does explain a lot.
@@xVadRay It sounds like you would be exactly the kind of parent that would drive a teenager into a situation like this out of fear of telling their parent. People make mistakes. If I picked through your life I could find a million things you fucked up on and say 'wow we've all been there but we didn't fuck up the way you did.' Judging other people doesn't make you better than them, it just makes you an untrustworthy confidant.
@@xVadRay are you slow? they probably expected their mother to.. you know.. mother? tell them basics about sex? and actually care and worry about their child? like a normal mother
There are 2 people you never want to lie to, your doctor and your lawyer. If they don’t know what’s truthfully going on, they can’t help. It doesn’t matter if your in the hospital from complications from drug use or whatever the case may be, if they don’t know they can’t give you proper treatment which can cost you your life.
Absolutely no way that this was a case of postpartum depression and its disgusting to use it as an excuse when there are real life women who struggle.. She lied from the absolute beginning of conception.
Thank you! EVEN if it was a postpartum depression you are still held accountable for your actions. The diagnosis is not meant to be used as an excuse but rather to be identified to treat BEFORE it escalates to unreversable actions. Whether she was in her right state of mind or not she was clearly more scared of facing the consequences of giving birth rather than seeking help during and even after the pregnancy. She was still denying she was pregnant until they had to basically say 'we know what you did'
why do so many people have the same d*mb fucking opinion as this? how is being under a severe psychosis not an excuse? how is anything an excuse if literally having your sense of reality warped isn't?
I am 19 and recently miscarried. My mom was in jail and I never got to tell her, I was waiting until she was out. I loved my baby so much, my partner and I immediately named her Colette and we had such high hopes for our baby girl. I could not imagine harming Colette in this way but growing up with such a controlling parent, I understand the fear that comes with things like this.
I grew up with an extremely controlling mom and family. No way in he'll I would have ever committed such an evil, despicable act. That is just a ridiculous excuse for an inhuman person to commit an in-human evil.
Just know Colette will always be a part of your body. Studies show that once a baby is implanted whether it lives or not the babies cells fight off any harm that comes to moms body. Its truly amazing how she was able to harm her child in such a way and still baby Doe continues to protect mom
The girl absolutely needs to take responsibility for what she did but the mother also definitely needs to be looked into because she’s seems to be a big factor. They shouldn’t have let the mom in the room. The girl was 19 anyways. I hope they both get the help that they need.
I would get it for emotional support and that young adults still feel a bit of dependents on their parents but was the assertiveness the mother had that shot alarm bells in my head
@@Dolphinboi We not making excuses the 19 year old definitely deserves prison time but children pick up behavior from their parents and the mother/grandmother is acting odd here to.
I swear to christ ASK PEOPLE THINGS WITHOUT THEIR PARENT if you think theres something weird going on! abusive parents are scarier than killing your baby sometimes.
This is so important, only when you have lived with abusive parents you understand this. It's not good what she did but I'm sure she was really scared of her mom
Absolutely, I personally grew up with an abusive mother and even talking about the actions that happened in my house still brings fear because we were told to tell no one since it was considered “normal” so I can see her being scare
The father looked so upset, he’s a full grown man and he’s crying, which made me realize how serious this is and I feel so bad for him because I can’t imagine how he’s feeling or how he’s processing this
I'm a mother. When I was 21, I found out I was pregnant at 7 months, I was in an incredibly difficult situation and could not be a good mother or give a baby a good life. I contacted a lawyer and chose open adoption. 17 years later and I have a good relationship with my daughter and I know I made the right choice. Never once did I consider wrapping my baby in a bag and disguising her as garbage. This young woman murdered her child and she deserves the full consequences of her choices.
for real, even today there are so many options for women who dont want babies and i doubt this girl had just found out because of how sketchy she was before
I got pregnant at 17 and I was forced to tell my mother and I had to grow up for my daughter. Never once did I ever think to throw my baby away. I love that you are sharing your story there's no shame in adoption and there's no shame in keeping your baby. There's only shame when you harm an innocent child.
not judging u at all i believe u did the right thing and the best thing for u and that baby but i have a question why it took u so long to notice and what make u think u was pregnant
@@angelesschultz1570 Yeah, no worries, I thought it was weird too. So, I was overweight at the time, vegetarian, and my job was going door to door for a nonprofit so lots of walking. All that led to me actually losing weight. I still had a, albeit light, period, and she didn't move for a long time (compared to my other baby) and her movements were so small. I think I also carried her towards my back vs to the front like I did with my son. I did have nausea occasionally, but I just chalked it up to the flu or something. Lastly, I had used protection before I broke up with my boyfriend then hadn't had any s*x in 7 months so yeah, I didn't put it all together until I felt her really move and realize my stomach was starting to protrude beyond my chub.
Read the story of Moses… you and your daughter are the exact same story. What a wonderfully blessed mother, daughter and all included. Thank you for your sharing.
I grew up in a traditional Hispanic family. While I don't think anything can justify this girl's actions, I can understand her fear. As a teenage girl my worst nightmare was to get pregnant. My parents never had the sex talk with me, but I was expected to remain "pure" or else they would disown me because my life was essentially over. I would have been terrified of my mother in this situation and while I would have never done anything as horrific as straight up killing a child, there would have been urges to somehow hide my pregnancy or even end it by ending my life. I just think a bigger conversation needs to be had about why this girl was more terrified of facing her mom than being a murderer. My goal as a future parents is to provide a safe space for my child and be their guide during the good AND the bad times. I remember talking to my mom about birth control when I was 20 years old and she absolutely freaked out. That led me to believe that I couldn't trust her when it came to the real life stuff I was going through. It's just sad.
She is not a teenager if she is old enough to have sex, she knew risks.people really need to stop treating her like victim she knew what she was doing, she is a grown ass adult even if she lives with her parents. I find the excuse bullshit that she was that scared of her mom. There are so many kids afraid of their parents but they’re not committing crime like this. The girl is not victim she is a criminal, the baby is the victim. If I offended anyone with my harsh opinion I apologize. This whole family needs therapy
@@lomapatel1389this🙌 I'm Hispanic and had really strict parents. I understand the fear 100% but I know just like anyone not to kill my child . She is not a victim.
@@Cherrycola007 Hi I am a Hindu and i have strict parents so I understand but that doesn’t mean because you have strict parents it’s ok to kill she could have just delivered the baby in private hiding it from her and speaking to the doctors and nurses privately and let them know she doesn’t want the baby. All trying to say she doesn’t deserve sympathy. She knew what she was doing.
precisely this. everyone's behavior seems so straightforward to me. a woman's "purity" is such a huge thing in society and especially so in traditional middle class POC/immigrant communities. i don't think pointing this out = empathizing or agreeing with alexi's actions. it's just that it's easier for some of us to see where the behavior stems from even if we, personally, wouldn't do the same thing in the circumstance
@@lomapatel1389People are teenagers until they turn 20, it's not based on how much they know or if they're old enough for anything, it's based on their development. Not all people really know what sex even is because not all countries have sex ed and not all parents really talk to their children about that. Alexi might be a victim of her mother's abuse judging by her actions. If she was so terrified of her mother finding out, she probably had a reason to be terrified. Her being a victim doesn't give her the right to commit crimes obviously, it just explains why she decided to do it in the first place. I think it's good that people try to analyse her behaviour and find underlying issues, that can help prevent things like this from happening in the future. So yes, Alexi is both (probably) a victim AND a criminal. The baby is obviously someone who suffered the worst and is the victim of the crime that his "mother" commited. (I want to say, I obviously don't condone or support any of Alexi's actions, they're disgusting and evil, but there are just many details that make this situation complicated. A lot of people also relate to having a mother like Alexi's so they comment about it, which is good because again in the long run it can save lives or make them better.)
Situations like this make me immediately think the parents are a huge issue. Why is your child so petrified to tell you the truth to the point of this intense denial?
Apparently a girl I kinda dated terminated her pregnancy because her father would disown her for having a baby before marriage. This is backed up by her little sister who heard the conversation with their mom & the father doesn't know to this day. It's quite real I tell you
She was AN ADULT no chid, no mama needed. SHE killed her kid not the mother. Sick how everyone is focused on the mother instead the actually ADULT killer
@hennigadient4265 she was a teenager and living in her parent's home. that's a kid. what she did wasn't right and no one is saying it was but clearly there was something going on in the home for this girl to be so terrified of confiding in the people who were meant to keep her safe
Coming from a nurse’s perspective, I feel for the baby, but I really feel for the medical staff. The guilt I would have for not having found the baby in time would kill me I think. This hurt so many people
@@chicahoneyit's not up to the doctors to tell her she's pregnant. She was denying everything and not saying anything. She popped the baby out & still chose to put him in the trash.
@@chicahoney I actually watched the video. The staff told daughter and mom she was pregnant before the restroom… Pretty key part of story. Maybe things would have gone a lot different if they told this news to the daughter privately. A legal adult . But I am not blaming these hospital staff. They clearly didn’t foresee this situation unfolding.
@@chicahoneyUm no they kept denying that she hadn’t had s3x. That she was a virgin over & over. The pre positive result wouldn’t of mattered. Also there is a thing as false positive. That mother would of claimed is wasn’t true & held onto that denial. That’s why they wanted a blood test for solid proof. Overall noo it wouldn’t have saved that baby. That girl had it all planned out what she was going to do. QUIT BLAMING the hospital staff for a MURDERER. You sound like that crazy lawyer she has that said “she handled it the right way” y’all are freaking nuts. I hope she gets MANY years to her sentence in October.
The stepdad is an amazing grandfather for simply caring about the very existence of Baby Doe. With the way everyone else is simply disregarding his existence, I’m worried that that baby wouldn’t have had much of a chance even if he survived and stayed with that family…
She could have very easily called for a nurse while in the restroom giving birth & could have let him live - he would’ve been adopted & loved. Alexee chose to murder him instead. She’s a murderer & must pay the price.
I ALMOST believed that she didn’t know, I ALMOST believed that her mother didn’t know either, until I saw the photos of her, clearly full term pregnant. Everyone knew. Her mother knew, she knew, her classmates knew.
Absolutely right. This has to be a case of collective denial, starting in an abusive or narcissistic family that keeps secrets and values appearances above all else.
I feel that pro-life or pro-choice, this is still horrifying. Even if the baby was not breathing, to stuff it into a bag is just so despicable to me... I don't think I would ever be able to recover if I worked in that hospital!
honestly, i’m heavily pro-choice and i am shocked by this. she is so lucky to live in a place like new mexico where so many options were available, but instead she chose to murder her baby right after she gave birth to it, when she could have given it up for adoption by just speaking to a nurse
@isabellagoring872 Options and access are not the same things. Hospital didn't follow proper procedures and ignored her rights, gave her morphine which can cause respiratory issues in babies, and made her feel so unsafe she had to sneak away to give birth. Hospital is definitely the biggest contributor in the death and it's quite presumptuous to assume she caused the baby's death
@@NaNa-ou1sgit's entirely her fault that the baby died, she lied to the hospital staff knowing very well that it could hurt the baby and that trashy mom of hers is just so unbelievable. the fact that she just stuffed the baby in a trash bag is so despicable, and she had the face to go to a prom with her boyfriend (who knew what she did). She's 19 YEARS OLD she's NOT a child, I hope she rots in prison
@@NaNa-ou1sg She threw her baby into the trash. wtf are you talking about. The hospital did not throw the baby into the trash. She did. SHE. DID. And clearly it was mostly her mother making her feel so unsafe.
I’m an RN. I start tearing up each time I here the charge nurse say “she never even gave me a chance to save that baby” it would be impossible to not feel like a total failure as an RN after something like this.
Oct. 2024 update: As of August 2024, the trial was canceled as the judge deemed as inadmissible evidence both the video of her walking to and from the bathroom and the conversations she had with hospital staff after the discovery of the evidence. She was allowed to go to college (even though some people at their college have publicly protested against her being there), and as of right now, there haven’t been any updates on whether a trial will be pursued later on.
I gave birth to my daughter at 19. Learned I was pregnant at 18. Learning I was pregnant got me motivated to start working again, get a car, and an apartment while I was pregnant. she’s the reason I’m alive today. I could never imagine hurting my baby
I am proud of you!!!! my step daughter was 17 when she got pregnant and gave birth when she was 18. Honestly that baby saved her life she ended up finishing school and had enrolled in college which she had been saying for years that she didn't want to go to college because she didn't know what she wanted to do. She was lazy and would not hold down a job for more than 2 days. She has now been working for almost 6 months and is enrolled in college.
it goes without saying that the acts alexei committed were heinous and animalistic to say the least. but i am curious to see a psychologist or a mental health professional break down the dynamic between her and her mother. this is not to excuse her behavior at all but to give more insight because i know it’s not normal. it’s beyond an over protective mom or control freak. there is something more sinister about this situation and i think understanding that dynamic will give more insight into this case. either way alexei had more options than most and unfortunately she chose this at the expense of her own child.
"animalistic"??? Animals DO NOT do such terrible things to their young! They PROTECT them, tooth and claw. Only people are capable of such horrendous deeds.
@@HelenaVanCityactually animals do worst, some species even eat their frail babies because they know they won’t survive and just make the group look weaker, that’s where the phrase “natural selection” comes from
It scares me how much my mom is like Alexie's mom. I put myself in Alexie's shoes and everything that mom said is exactly what I would've expected my mom to say. I can tell that the mom is VERY controlling and overbearing and that REALLY impacts the child (speaking from experience).
Same!!! I don't find what the mom said weird at all. I think in Alex' and her Mom's minds, the baby is just a thing at this point which is awful but not at all unbelievable
Alexi is an adult. No matter how the mom would have reacted, the mom shouldn't have control over her and alexi could just move out. She's 100% responsible
@@aliasabri6775While I agree she is responsible for what she did, having a controlling and possibly emotionally abusive parent is very damaging to one's mental health and thinking. Especially when it's your mother who's feeding you with negative and controlling thoughts, you become paranoid and scared for things that could happen if the parent finds out something as serious as you being pregnant. I can see from her point of view why she would react in a negative way, and I'm definitely not giving her a get out of jail free card, but it's not just as simple as moving out or just "being an adult" as well as "she shouldn't have control over her", that's just not how having a controlling and manipulative parent works.
@@aliasabri6775coming from not a great household, that’s not true. They typically make you feel isolated and like no one would actually help you in their time of need. They also will have financial control over you as well so you can’t save and it’s just not so cut and dry sadly. I can’t say that I would have wrapped the baby in the trash bag, but I might have left it on top and made mention that there was something strange in the trash, but I have also been in places of dissociation and don’t have full control over what I do… the situation for sure is more complex. There’s no excuse for killing a child. But it’s important to find out the how and why
the hospital staff was probably so heartbroken to hear they were accused of malpractice. they did everything they could to help that baby. her bad acting makes me beyond angry.
Are you mental rn? The staff did not once stop to think that a patient that refuses touch and is hovered over by her mother, shouldn’t be told in front of that mother that she is pregnant, while already in pain. (She was there for excruciating pain, they find out she is pregnant…. But decide to wait around for a second test to start treating her, but spill the tea already, then let’s leave them alone)
True. Its all her fault and mothers, 100%. Although. ANY time Ive EVER been to ER for anything, 1st thing they do is pregnancy test, even at 50yrs old. Why they didn't do this for a 19yr old is beyond me. NINETEEN! Not 12, not 13. 19!! For them to think theres no way she could be pregnant, was negligent. They should've immediately done a pregnancy test, especially with the way she was acting, the types of pain she was having
I think there are more people at fault than just the girl and her mother, yes. A lot more actually in the end. Girl clearly did not trust her mother at all and was caught in a denial spiral…. I think hospital staff should have separated them as soon as the first preg test came out positive. She wasn’t a minor, discussing medical matters in front of her mother (possibly with forced ‚consent‘) could even be seen as a HIPPA violation (god I hope it’s written that way) @@angelvenegas483
When I got pregnant I was so afraid of my mom I was honestly considering suicide. Y’all don’t understand this is 100% Alexis MOTHERS fault . I know a toxic Hispanic mother when I see one and that lady had her daughter walking around her on egg shells
I don’t entirely agree. While yes Alexis Mother only made the situation worse with her reaction to the possibility of her daughter being pregnant, and her reaction to Alexis being confronted. Her mother is most definitely partially at fault. But it was ultimately Alexis decision to throw away her own child. I understand that it was extremely hard for Alexis to reach out for support, but absolutely nothing justifies throwing a child away to die of suffocation. It was ultimately Alexis and her mother’s fault.
what happened to this girl is crazy but, in this state of mind you're willing to do anything. i'm not comfortable giving away too much information but my mom is also a scary bitch and i couldnt tell her. so many things were going on. i am lucky enough i got the support i needed from my boyfriend. but many may not have, in the case of Alexi and many many other women. us girls should not have to suffer like this. it's normal, its natural. it can happen to anyone. and theres nothing wrong with that. its just sad that we've been cursed by the judgements of this society to the point of considering suicide or dumping the newborn which is crazy but really not that crazy when u think abt it. i hope you're doing well 💕
This young woman knew exactly what she was doing. She 100% knew she was pregnant, and even bragged to her friends about naming the baby Alex. She continued cheerleading, knowing how huge her belly appeared with her tight uniform. Her mother also knew she was pregnant. She knew when she went to the hospital that her pain was because she was in labor!! And giving birth scared her, or being a mom at 19 scared her. She had that baby in the bathroom, and the baby was alive. She tears the umbilical cord apart, and proceeds to literally wrap the baby in plastic trash bags, put him in the trash can, and even covered him with other trash. She placed him in the bottom of the trash can TO HIDE HIM. The plastic was suctioned to his face becauee of his attempts to draw in breath, but could only breath plastic!! Who knows... she could have bitten that umbilical cord to rip it apart. His autopsy officially lists "entrapment" as the cause of death, due to being alive when born but placed in the plastic bag... And the autopsy DID list it as a homicide. He had enough oxygen found in his lungs to open them up, hence proof of live birth (breathing after born). She knowingly and willingly MURDERED HER CHILD.
@@LexMeRep post partum defines as, after birth was given. If she gave birth, she can instantly fall into a psychosis. This has happened to other women before, which is why there are multiple nurses in the room to assist and the baby, in many cases, is taken away until the mother is ready to see it.
I pray the New Mexico court system doesn’t fail this baby boy. Alexee and her mom knew ..THEY KNEW SHE WAS PREGNANT. The fact that the mom is suing the hospital and police dept is beyond insane!! She murdered that baby and showed no remorse after. Smh
FINALLY SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP LIKE LITERALLY HER SCHOOL, HOMETOWN, FRIENDS ETC KNEW & ACTED LIKE THIS SHIT WAS NEW THEN AFTER THIS INCIDENT SHE WENT TO PROM WITH HER BABYDADDY AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED
The justice system here in New Mexico let’s people off easy it’s notorious here lmao Even though it’s a high profile case she’s probably getting a light sentence if she has a decent lawyer
I think she'll take a plea. So far, they're acting like idiots. They're even suing the hospital. 🤦♀But I have a feeling that reality will hit them and they'll realize that a plea deal is the best way to go. (Assuming they're even offered one.) She's facing first degree murder charges! These people are so stupid. They don't seem to understand how serious this is.
@@Deenique16 Right? It's not even starting until October. (If it doesn't get delayed.) This will take awhile. I hate that she's out on bail. With a first degree murder charge? She's probably out celebrating summer with her friends like nothing happened. She should be sitting in a cell!
I'm somewhat torn with this case. As someone who definitely didn't look pregnant with either pregnancy (hell, my 8th month when my daughter was born, I only weighed 100lbs) and as someone who was pregnant at 19 and kept it secret up until I miscarried at month 6 before my mom found out and proceeded to chase me around the house calling me a murderer, liar, slut, and a bunch of other not very nice things in front of my then bf, I understand her panic in that moment. As I had done, she likely convinced herself that she wasn't pregnant or if she was, she may miscarry or have time to abort until it was too late. To have to face your mother who may, and in my case did, shame you or be so furious with you that they abandon you is a huge motivation for some young women to hide their pregnancies and when the inevitable time comes for birth, they absolutely panic and go in to self preservation mode. There is no bonding. You tell yourself "I'll probably miscarry or get an abortion, I have time" or "I'm not actually pregnant. It was just a false positive" and because of that, you form zero bond with the thing in you. Luckily, I never made it past 6 months with my first pregnancy, so never ended up having the twins. After everything from shock to fear wore off, the depression hit hard and I found myself wishing I had seen a doctor or done what I was supposed to do, and I'm sure she feels the same now that it's finally hit her. With my daughter, I was very fortunate to have an amazing husband and dad by my side and some awesome doctors and obgyns ❤ I didn't let my mother anywhere near me while pregnant. It's unfortunate this girl felt so much pressure, anxiety, and guilt. That baby would have likely never been murdered in that case. Now, I want to add that my empathy ends prior to her trashing the alive baby. That baby didn't deserve that and to wrap him so tight that his little lungs can't inflate is cruel and evil. I get the panic beforehand, but even I wouldn't have murdered my child who was alive and breathing at birth. At some point, you have to face the music. Whether it's deserved or not, kind, just, or hurtful, you still have to face your poor decisions and the consequences. Maybe her mom would have called her a bitch and a whore like mine did, but at the end of the days, it's better than murdering a newborn.
Pls add the necessary context, even states that allow late term abortion they would NEVER be performed on a healthy fetus. They are ONLY performed under very specific circumstances when the child is 100% nonviable. Medical insurance doesn't cover the procedure so it's usually over $10k because they have to go through full labor and delivery. Pls don't demonize these women
I have gobbled up this story from every source available and yours has been the absolute most informative and accurate I’ve heard. Im a nurse and can clearly picture everything you explain. You’re great at explaining. ❤
Her mother and her mother's reality is all this poor girl ever knew. I honestly believe she reacted out of fear and possibly even thought she was in danger of loosing a roof over her head and no where to go. My mother always used to tell my sister and I that we better never end up pregnant cause we'll have no place to go. Some parents I still so much fear in their children they don't know how to live on their own or deal with real life issues.
I had a friend in middle school who’s mom told her exactly that, luckily my mom did the opposite. She always told my sister and I that if we got pregnant she would take care of us but of course taught us why and how to prevent that happening until we’re ready. She went so far as to tell our friends the same and they all view her as a second mom to this day. I do think Rosa is at least partially at fault here, clearly Alexi was terrified of her. Imagine being so scared of your mom you would literally murder your own baby…
I feel like she wasn’t scared of being out her house but she’s scared of not being her daughters child anymore. Her mom is def a tiger mom, she’s 19 years old why is she doing everything for her still. That’s why Alexee plays dumb because her mom will deal with it
I'm sorry but I think it's also, the girls fault. she was in a facility where she could drop off the baby, ask to be anonymous and not tell anyone about it and explain her situation if she was desperate enough to KILL her own child. yeah she's a murderer. now she's 19 years old, has internet, and im sure she knew about this aswell. she's just a murderer who took the life of a child before it even..lived a day. INTENTIONALLY. she did not have to give the child long and painful death of suffocation, she knew what she was doing. sure this, what you're saying might be the best explanation as to what happened but that doesn't...excuse what she did.
@@lukeiamyourfather666 I am sorry... your all so disgusting to think that a teen knows how to rationally deal with all this happening to her, it must have been traumatic and I wish you could have walked in her shoes and then we will see if you would still be saying this shit.
I worked in the ER and I can’t tell you how many times a teenager comes in with their parents for severe back pain only to give birth few minutes later.
Update on the girl: Charges have been dropped and she will not be getting charged with anything I also remember when she tried to start college they did a petition for her not to go to that college
I am not blaming the hospital staff at all but I do believe that doctors and nurses should be taught to ask the parents to leave the room when asking about uncomfortable topics such as pregnancy
Agreed. When I was a teenager even though I wasn't sexually active, any time theyd run a pregnancy test (which, honestly at times feels like a waste of time) my grandma would go on this long rant about how she'd beat my ass if I was pregnant and how I should be above that behavior. She and my mom had babies as teens before marriage and I guess she just wanted better for me, but it didn’t make stressful situations better.
We are-have family step out for privacy all the time! But it’s difficult to do that when the patient killed a baby in the bathroom before they had that chance. They’d gotten the +hcg test but they had no idea she was FULL TERM and IN LABOR…. As far as they knew she was in her 1st or 2nd trimester, so I’m sure in their mind they had time to get the mother out and discuss the situation.
@@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaacthey still told the girl she was pregnant in front of her mother iirc. Or that the test came back positive. Obviously the fault isn’t on the hospital for the murder they were all just doing their jobs. But I imagine it could have ended differently since the red flags were already there and they had discussed asking her to step out before. Personally I think if you have to guess and a parent is acting like that AND the patient isn’t being honest about being pregnant and won’t let doctors touch her that’s more than enough justification to ask the mom to step out even before the blood test came back since they already told them about the urine test. While alexees actions are her own, she was still a scared young woman who could have had more help before it tipped into irreversible territory. Her fear doesn’t justify murder but it’s just sad and I’m sure the staff probably has regret in hindsight.
I work for a clinic connected to a hospital. We have a portal patients can use, and parents actually lose access to everything except super basic stuff once they hit like 11 or 12, to help protect their privacy. Also when I was a kid, they asked my mom to leave on regular checkups while asking the "is there any chance you could be-" questions, even if I wanted her to stay, just to guarantee that I felt comfortable answering honestly. And that was the '90s. The staff definitely didn't do as much as they could to separate potentially abusive parent from child, but in the end, she made her decision, and has to pay the price.
I’m literally tearing up upon hearing the horrific state how the poor little baby was found. I’m appalled beyond words. He suffered way too much. Too much.
@@hannahkirkland1301how is she suffering she got caught after murdering her child theres choices she was 19 she almost 20 only reason she suffers is she got caught im over this damn poor lexi argument
@@hannahkirkland1301are you talking about Alexi's mom? Or are you talking about alexi? I hope you're not talking about alexi. She could have given the baby up for adoption or something. THE BABY SUFFERED MORE THAN ANYONE.
Since I gave birth to my son a year ago, I have had these EXTREMELY STRONG caring and protective maternal instincts that kicked in as soon as I felt my baby come out of me and still aren't lowering down. After seeing this case I am SO SHOCKED that even I started feeling some maternalistic protective feelings for the baby boy and his own mother did not felt A THING!!!!! World is literally messed up man!
I am a nurse and I work in trauma surgery. I cried watching this episode. First of all, thank you for acknowledging that medical staff are also human who oftentimes, put up a strong front in ordee to carry on with our job. Is not an easy job, and I can only imagine how difficult it must have been for the medical staff involved in this crime. Because this is what this is, a crime. This young woman has no excuse for what she did. She’s the only one at fault. Yeah you can blame the staff for not discussing her pregnancy results right away, but they checked on her several times while she was murdering that defenseless baby. I pray and hope justice is served.
I'll start by saying I've never been pregnant or in this girl's situation, but I have been in similar ones. My mother is controlling to put it mildly and that persists even now when I've instilled very clear and strict boundaries and separated myself from her. At 19 I would have had no chance of being treated or even considered an adult. I started having serious health issues at 22 and even then, my mother inserted herself into every situation. She insisted on being in the room for every appointment, had a say in decisions about treatments, and refused possibilities when she had no right to. When you've been raised in that environment, with a highly controlling parent, you don't have the tools to say "please remove my mother from the room, I am an adult and I don't want her here" or veto their decisions. You don't have the tools to go against what they say or think for yourself as an adult. You aren't capable of asserting yourself like that because that kind of individualism is squashed at every opportunity. I know it sounds weird. She was an adult and could, reasonably, act on her own. But it's very different with parents like this and you don't fully understand that mindset if you haven't experienced it. In that situation, you don't have the option to speak against that parent, have them removed from the situation, act against them, or even contradict them. It doesn't even occur to you that that's an option. What that girl did wasn't okay and I'm not saying she had no fault in this situation. But I do think her mother's influence had a lot more to do with this than most people realize.
i agree to an extent because my mothers been the same way and shes yet to stop, shes also abusive so saying no or asking for her to leave when i was hospitalized would end up with me getting bruised BUT she was alone with the doctors in the hallway and when she was in the bathroom but not once did she quietly pull them to the side out of view of her room to tell them. she had the chance to tell them when her mother wasnt present nor could she be heard by her mother from the bathroom or the hallway + she couldve told them to stay quiet and not tell her mother. i do think her mother has a lot of influence over her daughter and it definitely may have influenced her behavior that night but she was entirely responsible for her decisions that night. for me personally at least, when my mothers being abusive or im scared of her in a situation where she has full control over me, im in full survival mode looking for even the slightest chance to get away. she had that chance at least twice from what we know and she did not take it. she couldve also asked a staff and said something like "can you come in i need a tampon dont tell my mom" to lure them in and tell them but she did not. i do understand ur perspective however, i just think the girl had multiple opportunities to evade her controlling mother while still telling staff about the baby. that was long sorry 😅
@@inimmz I absolutely agree with what you're saying. Reasonably she had all the opportunities to make the right choice. It's just, when your parents aren't being outright abusive there's this mind game that's got control of you. Their manipulation runs so deep that it's very difficult to question it or go against it. If they're never outright abusive, then there's very little to make you go "hold up this isn't right." I can only speak from personal experience but it's really difficult to break out of that mental hold they've got on you if there isn't anything to trigger that survival instinct. It takes years of separation and outright therapy to get out of it and even then it's a 50/50. It's like they convince you down to your core that their opinions and beliefs are the only ones that matter. If her mother is a narcissist like so many of us assume, she didn't raise her daughter to be an individual. They raise us like extensions of themselves. We are not unique people with our own personalities and desires. We are theirs and stepping beyond that is seen as betrayal. This is pure speculation on my part, and again, I don't want this to detract from her personal responsibility or anyone else's theories and experiences. This stuff is too complex for us to really know. I just feel really sorry for her because I see a lot of my personal history reflected in her and her mother's actions. Sorry, I also went way too long
Alexei gives "me me me" teen girl vibes and mom gives "what will the neighbors think!" Energy. They bf and his mom just have an air of "pfft, not me/my kid, not my problem. Whatevs" and step dad seems like a cinnamon roll who needs to divorce mom
Recently in my country, a woman with very severe postpartum psychosis & depression killed her two toddlers and then attempted suicide, tried to jump off her apartment balcony but she survived and her husband found her. This same woman had gone multiple times to medics and asked to be institutionalised and under surveillance cuz she felt like she would harm her children and the hospitals and doctors let her down. She literally begged them to keep her in the hospital cause of how fearful she was of doing anything to her babies. This poor woman will not only be criminalised and jailed but worst of all, live with the guilt and pain of killing her babies, for something that wasnt her fault and was out of her control. That being said I dont think Alexee had postpartum depression for a single second.
I think the woman in your story sounds more like she developed postpartum psychosis which is much much worse. I could *maybe* believe Alexie had pre and postpartum disorders but she seems much more like a girl that was terrified of being a mother leading to all this.
@@sparrow.6392severe post partum depression is essential saying the same as psychosis. It occurs because of sever depressive or other mental disorders.
I really hope the woman in your story will be able to not be criminalized in the future. Idk how it all works but I imagine it with some legal stuff to clear her name.
I’ve honestly been skipping and scrolling past this story because my heart can’t take knowing a little baby was harm ! But now that Steph is doing the story here I am .
"She didn't look pregnant." She absolutely did!! Have you seen her cheerleading pics? Also, from the reports I've seen, they did inform her that she was pregnant after the urinalysis, and that's when she insisted she was a virgin. But between taking a blood sample and receiving that result, she gave birth and murdered her newborn in the bathroom.
Someone should have sent the mother some of the cheerleading pic's 3weeks before the birth. I'm sure Alexis wore very baggy clothes and hid away in her room.
That girl went into the bathroom gave birth while there were nurses outside asking if shes okay. She had multiple chances to speak up and ask for help. And the malpractice claim…. She didn’t let the doctor touch her!!!! That mother is a horrible person for egging on her daughter and that girl is a murderer. Period point blank.
Even if they’ve been in the field for many years, I don’t think anyone working that night involved with the visit and case was completely unaffected by everything. Seeing so many professionals fighting back rage and tears to keep composure is extremely admirable
Crazy thing is that this was so close to me that we found out that she actually was ALLOWED. To walk at her graduation even though they were on going in the trial. She was I think convicted of murder and I think reckless endangerment. I live 30 minutes away from this whole thing.
As a hospital housekeeper, I can't even imagine what I would do if I was in Lila’s shoes. I've seen some weird and kind of scary stuff working at the hospital, but nothing even close to that! I hope she's seeing someone about what she saw that night, because that's something that would scar anyone for life.
Agreed. Also the fact that she had the sense to check is the reason the baby was found. PS. Have also worked EVS in the past, and have seen some seriously crazy things.
We live in a world where we're a kid fears their parents more than being honest. I can't imagine that. It's so shameful because parents leave their kids feeling helpless and insecure about opening up to them about harsh things like this because of the consequences they'll put on them. Instead, you got teens that do things like this. Parents seriously need to be more supportive of their own flesh and blood instead of making them feel like if they screw up once, they get chewed out and spit right back out over and over again
You’re so right. I think it’s also related to the lack of sex Ed in the US and how we shame sexual behavior. Teenagers have sex. They just do and if this girls got her birth control this never would’ve happened.
I think a big part of the issue is parents have a major tendency to forget that they were also rebellious teens at one point. They were also drinking underage, being s3xually active, smoking pot and cigarettes you name it. Either that or they know they were that way and will go to extremes to avoid it with their own teen. But that’s just how teenagers behave. I’ll forever be thankful my mom understood teens will be teens and gave me access to a bc prescription and a safe place to consume substances (while not supporting my use).
I have the same relationship with my mom - expected to do what is told of me and succeed in my path and scared to mess up especially involving pregnancy. The mom responded the exact same way my mom would have , understandably upset but wishing I would have told her before hand . The baby could have been saved and loved - but FEAR runs deep
@@SawyerH-hb7knIt’s Not mostly the mothers fault. The girl is 19!! She knew what she did was wrong, the entire time she ran while suffocating and having that baby boy get murdered, she could’ve handed him off- quickly explained, and ran BACK!! Or even leave him in the restroom on the ground without a bag to suffocate him..Alexi is at fault!! The mother had a part too!! But alexi is mainly at fault! And I am speaking as someone who is living in fear of a parent every day!!
@@slowedvxbesaudios8378 You can tell that the way the daughter was raised was wrong. She was obviously raised with a toxic non trusting relationship that was led with fear. So she did not trust her mom like a daughter should and was scared because she probably still lives with her mother.
@@SawyerH-hb7kn I absolutely agree, I also believe that just because you had a rough upbringing- doesn’t give you a pass to do what she did. Yes, she may have panicked..however at the end of the day she still chose to do what she did, fear or not. And ultimately HER choices murdered that baby boy.
the fact that she’s more scared of her mother than being seen as a MURDERER is insanely concerning
Says everything about her mother
Yeah, she is way more in the place of daughter than taking responsibility as a grown adult.
I was thinking the Same
That's very normal. I am not sure what is concerning about that. Most teenagers value their parents approval only second to their peers acceptance. And in this situation that force was so strong it forced her to kill her own child to keep her parents approval. Because remember... she is still a child and children want their parents approval.
Children have been unaliving themselves due to parents’ disappointment. Murdering someone else is not that far off.
People keep saying she “threw her baby away” but she took a living newborn baby boy, wrapped him tightly in a plastic trash bag, twisted it shut right, buried him under another bag of trash, and left him to suffocate to death.
She didn’t just throw him away, she murdered him. IN A HOSPITAL where she could have just given him to a nurse and he would have been safe and helped. She could have been anonymous.
Ikr? But This young murderer killed her child
EXACTLY!! this case makes me so mad. that baby wouldve made someones life. theres so many other options and she didnt have to be involved. they have closed options.
SO SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN ABORTION BUT HOMICIDE IS OK. SHE JUST DGAF. AND OBVIOUSLY HER MOTHER DIDN'T EITHER
Yep . Spot on and ppl still defend her . Like babies are less human than an adult . She’s evil af
At anytime she could have asked for help, given birth, given the baby away
I feel so deeply for the cleaning lady. As someone who has ptsd, i know that every time she changes her garbage at home or throws away something in public or even walks past a dumpster it will happen all over again in her head. My best wishes and empathy extended to all the people in the hospital. ❤
Yes I agree, I’ve had a patient of my put hands on me and I cried like a baby after shaking and all I was sooo triggered I was terrified out my mind that day.
Absolutely. If the cleaning lady found the baby alive, she would have done everything to keep that baby alive and not judge Alexi. The Cleaning Lady has emptied thousands of trash can but nothing could have prepared her for that horrible encounter. Nothing. My heart goes out to her.
I don't like to compare trauma. I've been through trauma and my trauma is valid, but if you asked my honest opinion, I would say that what this cleaning lady has been through is so much worse than what I've been through. Something happened to me at age 14 and I developed PTSD from it. I don't want to give away how old I am (I'm old, LOL) but after all of these years, certain things still trigger me. One of them is a certain song and I heard it while grocery shopping and had a full blown panic attack. That was only about a year ago. Decades have passed and I'm still being triggered by things.
I just pray that this woman gets the help she needs. I know money won't fix anything, but if she had a GoFundMe, I would absolutely donate to it. Therapy can be expensive, so maybe it would help with that. I work in healthcare myself and I actually have pretty crappy insurance. You'd think that healthcare workers would have good insurance, but that's not necessarily true. Hopefully whatever treatment she needs is fully covered.
Or she could use the money to go on a trip somewhere. Nothing is going to fix what she's been through, but maybe taking a dream vacation would at least help her relax for a little bit. This case is ongoing, so it's not over for her yet. (In reality, it will never be over for her.) She's still going to have to relive this when it goes to trial. I have a feeling that they'll end up showing her horrible pictures of the bathroom and the trash can and even the baby. They'll ask her things like, "Is this what he looked like when you found him?" My God! It's so horrifying. She's going to be traumatized all over again.
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@@Kristine_202 You expressed and painted the picture so clearly. Absolutely on point. This was a horrific thing to see and experience. The cleaning lady had already gone through a trauma the year before when her male partner took his life. That was an event she was carrying every day of her life. She was asked if she would be okay taking this job because of the way her partner died. She said yes. I am guessing she took the position because the salary was good and she would be busy and around other people which would keep her mind occupied. No way did she ever imagine she would encounter what did.
I too want for her to get therapy before, during, and after the trial, if there is one because every trash can n that hospital is a trigger for her. And the added trauma is that the grandmothers are yet to shed a tear for their grandson from what I have observed.
The fact that the STEP DAD IS MORE EMOTIONAL ABOUT THE BABY THAN THE MOTHER says alot the mother failed to be a mom!
why do you people act like the mom is the one who killed that baby💀 she was NINETEEN
@@yasmina1994 Because she did kill the baby, she was right next to a room full of doctors that whole ass time, yes she was young, I'm sure it was a fucking horrible thing to mentally go through for everyone involved, but she could've easily gotten help instead of walking back in the room like nothing happened while full well knowing her own newborn was suffocating in that trash bag. Being nineteen isn't an excuse for literal murder dude. 💀💀💀
@yasmina Yeah, nineteen, an ADULT. No age is an excuse for suffocating a little baby. Psycho.
@@Quandell-t8j my question is why people are acting like the mom killed the baby... not the actual killer ? i said she was 19, and adult. she knew what she was doing
@@Quandell-t8j maybe learn how to read😭
Her threshold for pain is insane to me - her fear of her mom overrode human instinct.
She was also on morphine for the “back pains”
Not everyone freaks out in labor.
@@jennifernader2914 oh wow that changes my perspective on everything- including why she was such a talkative zombie with the personnel.
it’s honestly sad, it rly puts in perspective why she did what she did. the absolute fear she has of her mom speaks volumes
Well she had been given morphine though
The fact that Alexie would rather do that to her baby than face her mom, who, after hearing her own daughter “miscarried” her GRANDCHILD, started to scold her is mind blowing to me. Wow.
She didn’t miscarry, the baby was full term.
@@TaraLSi “miscarried” in quotation marks refers to the point in time when they initially thought she had actually miscarried.
@@TaraLSithat was know after . But at the Time of the confrontation in the room , she said the child didn’t cry , was dead so it was assume that it was a miscarriage . And the Mom scold her child thinking at that moment it was not a murder . It was learn after that it was a lie .
She lied about being a virgin, so of course she would lie about the baby crying!
@@marshellm3121YES!!
Ok but nobody talking about the boyfriend and his mom attitude. The boyfriend is not sad, horrified, crying, worried etc. Neither her mom. Him and his mom look relief??? As if Alexi took a burden off of them. Actually all of them give off that impression.
It's so sad. Only the step-father is crying. Everyone else is so suspicious.
!!!!!!!!
Was a paternity test done? Stepdad sounds sus asl to me
Was a paternity test done? Stepdad sounds sus asl to me
Was a paternity test done? Stepdad sounds sus asl to me
People keep saying the hospital didn't do their job and should have done a dialation exam. She refused. You know touching a patient without their consent is illegal as hell, right?
I wonder had they made the mom leave the room and talked to her one on one if that may have changed things. I think keeping the mom in the room made care more difficult and made her hide things.
@@furygeistThey couldn't have. Only the patient decides who gets to be in the room. There are situations when the doctors would insist everyone gets out but not in this case. There are people present even when someone is in active labour. It's the patient's call. Asking the mother to leave on their own can backfire on the medical staff in a big way.
I agree with ur statements
I think it is
That’s why our legal system is stupid
I just can’t get over the fact that her mother and the bfs mother had the nerve to be laughing while knowing the seriousness of the situation. It’s just Mind Blowing
THATS the part that is mind blowing to you???? Are you kidding!??
@@NelehLove9313I’m sure all of it is they’re just pointing out a part that they noticed. I know this situation is something many feel very passionate about, but remember to be kind to others. They never said it was okay or the rest wasn’t mind blowing.
@@NelehLove9313 you know what they meant
@@NelehLove9313girl please
Some people laugh when nervous, anxious…etc
It doesn’t mean the BF mom thought it was funny she probably didn’t know what else to do. Now Alexee’s mom oh she rubs me the wrong way. That lady probably doesn’t have a soul inside of her! Weird asx family!
Girl swore up and down that she was a virgin. How is the hospital at fault for this. Are people OK?
Fr
Thing is, by right, Alexee didn’t need to have her mom in the room with her. They could have easily asked her to leave to give her some privacy.
It’s super common for teens to be afraid to admit in front of their parents that they are sexually active. Healthcare workers know this. The staff had a big suspicion she was pregnant, and when the pregnancy test came back positive, if they had kicked Rosa out and talked to Alexee about her options (including leaving the baby for adoption without anyone knowing), she might not have felt the need to kill Baby Doe in the first place.
They knew Rosa was most likely a strict parent judging by how adamant the two of them were that Alexee was a virgin. They knew there would be serious repercussions for her if Rosa knew the truth. It baffles me how they thought putting the patient in an unnecessarily stressful and potentially dangerous/traumatic situation (that could've been 100% avoided!!!) is "acting in the patient's best interests".
I don’t think the doctor and nurses were the bad guys here, they were trying to help. But it is nevertheless a serious oversight on their part.
@melian7403yeah, and I’m wondering how she was at the hospital two months prior and they didn’t give a person of childbearing age a pregnancy test?
@@noidea42541000% she could’ve gone to the hospital herself alone if she really didn’t want her mother to know. She was 19!!! Not a child at all but she knew exactly why she said she was a virgin went to the restroom and killed her baby. No excuses!
Don't be ridiculous. She came in with a back pain? They do pregnacy test if it is a belly ache or so
If you go with a headache to doctor and you are a woman in childbearing age should they give you a stripe to pee on to check if you are pregnant? Let's be for real
The fact that she can just casually walk back to her room after giving birth and shoving the baby down a trash can is crazy
being more scared of your "mom" is crazier. Especially if you're legally an adult. Mothers shouldn't be THIS controlling
She was in shock and had a lot of adrenaline. I’m guessing she’ll plead insanity during court.🤷♀️
She was on heavy meds and the adrenaline pumping through you after you have a baby can be crazy
Especially while in a hospital, she’s so damn selfish she could of got the baby the helped he or she needed and forgot about her lying ass self for once!
She was in shock, panicking and didn't know what to do. Humans aren't known to make the best decisions when they panic, and especially during labour. This was an incredibly traumatic event for Alexie and she does not deserve jail time for this
my stomach,heart,mind,soul DROPPED. The moment you said “a perfectly healthy boy” I don’t wanna be on this earth anymore.
That part hit the hardest
Please pray for people cause that's what can be done.
@@Bat_yaYes we will.
He had morphine in his system. I’m angry they gave her that before checking the pregnancy test results. Big oversight. So (I believe?) he still would’ve needed medical care, at least monitoring, but I agree he should have survived to have a life.
I blame the mother
regardless if you want your kid to be sexually active or not, HAVE THE SAFE SEX TALK, and if your kid ends up pregnant, you support them, not scare them
PERIOD!
According to what she said to the nurse she had been on birth control and then got off them to take weight loss pills, so I think all parents in these two parents lives were aware
exactly!! as parents, they should be the first to talk to their kids about safe sex and the right sexual values. if not, then society will teach them the hard way!
Children should NEVER be ashamed to tell their parents that they're pregnant. Rosa majorly failed Alexi by not being supportive.
@@showshortage4684 It's amazing to hear so many people talk about how parents should be supportive if their child is going through an unwanted pregnancy. It's nice to hear because while I was growing up there was absolutely no question that my parents would have shunned me had I given them the news that I was expecting. It's funny because I'm in my 30s now and married and I still get this weird sense of dread thinking about telling them my husband and I are expecting a baby because then they'll know I'm sexually active. So stupid.
My son’s gf got ( unplanned) pregnant last year and as shocked and concerned as I was I bend over backwards to support them. My granddaughter is 12 days old today and by far the best “ accident” they could’ve ever had!!!
As a parent you support your kids not scare the hell out of them.
The mother is at fault in this as well .
I hope they throw the book at both of them!!!
Your son and his gf** got pregnant- women don’t get pregnant by themselves
Ur a good mother
Thanks God there are still mother like you in this world
Congratulations Grandma!! That’s what good parents do.
Congratulations on your family
The fact that Alexi and her mother are suing the hospital and staff for wrongful death is beyond me. Not once did Rosa ask ANY questions about the child. Even if you take into account everything that the defense attorney claims, WHY DID SHE TRASH HER BABY!
Wow the insanity..... imagine if they planned the whole thing to try the lawsuit.
Someone just lock em both away cuz who knows what happened between mom and daughter
@@mariajustdamnsill3398
The mother gives off such narcissistic, controlling vibes, nothing would surprise me at this point.
Some legal experts, including a judge, say this is to be expected. Alexi's lawyers probably would have recommended it, they have to come out of the gate running. It shows an adamant no admission of guilt. But that is what the legal system has come to. Many things in legal proceedings don't make any sense to people with any level of ability to feel compassion. From what I've heard, the hospital is most likely at no fault, and will be found as such. Even the toxicology report with painkillers administered shows no wrong doing. But who knows. We weren't there and will have to wait and see. I hope the poor baby has justice, however that plays out, in the best way possible.
I agree with this, child abandonment is beyond crazy, i’ve never expected such a thing, that poor baby healthily came here for minutes until his last breath, shes a true monster, she definitely did have other options!!
Don't worry the hospital lawyers would rip them apart just by using the body cam and cctv records. But the audacity is beyond imagination she murdered a living and breathing baby then wants to saw those who discovered her crime to profit from them. Some humans are indeed scarier than demons.
Omg. I just went looking for an update and on Reddit someone posted Rosa’s Facebook post “balloon release for my beloved Baby Alex” and a photo of white balloons and an angel wing shaped balloon. Wild. You didn’t seem to love him too much when he was dead in a hospital trash bag.
She is looking for pity so she won’t be seen as a murderer.
“beloved baby alex” ????????? and i thought i couldnt get even more disgusted..
@@muzziekayaaa yes they’re treating it like he died from natural causes or some thing 😭 I guess their defense is that it’s the hospital’s fault (which is insane) so I guess it makes sense in that context. So gross.
Why didn't anyone take a paternity test???? I think that would be shocking, to know who is the real father😢😢😢!!!
Yeah, and people are defending her and feel bad for her, like she deserves any pity. She is an adult woman, who murdered a baby.
The only person in the body cam that seemed devastated was the stepdad, my deepest condolences for him, and may that poor boy rest in peace.
😳😳
Right he was the ONLY ONE CONCERNED… that a baby was murdered.
Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. (Revelation 3:15-18) you cannot live for this world and not try to stop sinning (being cold) and only believing in God(hot) without turning from sin or sinning and saying God will forgive you after or not read the Bible, pray, worship/obeying God. Which is being a lukewarm. If we are neither cold or hot, God will spit us out his mouth.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. ” Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished. Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before before a fall.
Genesis 1:26-27 - “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Jesus is coming back soon!! Repent and believe!! Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you 🫶🏽
Plis read revelation 3:15-18 on google if you don’t have a Bible.
(Exodus 20:7) You shall not invoke the name of the LORD, your God, in vain. Please don’t use Gods name in vain, it’s dangerous
Has a nation ever changed its gods? (Yet they are not gods at all.) But my people have exchanged their glorious God for worthless idols. Jeremiah 2:11) having idols of any kind isn’t good 🙅♀️
Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. (Jeremiah 16:20)
HAVING IDOLS IS A SIN JEREMIAH
16:20 , JEREMIAH 2:11
Revelation 3:15-18 explains that we can’t be cold and hot at the same time which is being a lukewarm. In other words, if we are hot, which is really repenting and turning from sin) if we are cold we just completely don’t really follow God. If we mix those together it makes a lukewarm which they will be spat out Gods mouth and won’t inherit the kingdom of heaven.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.John 3:16. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13
Romans 8:38-39 .. John 3:16 .. Revelation 3:15-18 Corinthians 6:9.. John 15:13 Psalms 23:4
Psalms 23:4 || Yea, though I walk through The Valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Deuteronomy 31:8. The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:6-7
JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON!!REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!🫶🏽🫶🏽 ✝️❣️..😊😊❤😊❤
@@Lyla8728 Romans 8:38-39 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. (Revelation 3:15-18) you cannot live for this world and not try to stop sinning (being cold) and only believing in God(hot) without turning from sin or sinning and saying God will forgive you after or not read the Bible, pray, worship/obeying God. Which is being a lukewarm. If we are neither cold or hot, God will spit us out his mouth.
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. ” Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished. Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before before a fall.
Genesis 1:26-27 - “Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Jesus is coming back soon!! Repent and believe!! Jesus loves you and wants a relationship with you 🫶🏽
Plis read revelation 3:15-18 on google if you don’t have a Bible.
(Exodus 20:7) You shall not invoke the name of the LORD, your God, in vain. Please don’t use Gods name in vain, it’s dangerous
Has a nation ever changed its gods? (Yet they are not gods at all.) But my people have exchanged their glorious God for worthless idols. Jeremiah 2:11) having idols of any kind isn’t good 🙅♀️
Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD. (Jeremiah 16:20)
HAVING IDOLS IS A SIN JEREMIAH
16:20 , JEREMIAH 2:11
Revelation 3:15-18 explains that we can’t be cold and hot at the same time which is being a lukewarm. In other words, if we are hot, which is really repenting and turning from sin) if we are cold we just completely don’t really follow God. If we mix those together it makes a lukewarm which they will be spat out Gods mouth and won’t inherit the kingdom of heaven.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.John 3:16. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13
Romans 8:38-39 .. John 3:16 .. Revelation 3:15-18 Corinthians 6:9.. John 15:13 Psalms 23:4
Psalms 23:4 || Yea, though I walk through The Valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Deuteronomy 31:8. The Lord himself goes before you and will be with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged.
Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:6-7
JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON!!REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!🫶🏽🫶🏽 ✝️❣️..😊😊😊
The janitor who found the baby and other hospital staff were heartbroken and showed to much love and support to her (the janitor).
I was 19 when I conceived my baby and gave birth at age 20. I don’t think I would be thatttt stupid or sheltered as to think any of her options were worse than throwing a child in the trash. Especially with how much the staff offered help. I think her mom is the key to most all of the behavior
I had my first kid at 19, just shy of 20. Almost the same as you and at the same age as the girl in the video.
I was independent and living with my then boyfriend ( now husband) which obviously made it easier than for this teen but I still come from a highly religious family and we were "living in sin".
So, I knew it would be bad for my kid and myself.
The pregnancy was literally at one of the worst time possible in my life when we were getting ready to move to another country and I was definetely not financially ready for being a mother.
Then to top this all of I only discovered the pregnancy at almost 14 weeks bc I had heavy bleeding that I mistook for normal period. So it ended up being considered a high risk pregnancy where me and my baby were both at risk at some points.
The pregnancy news hit me like a rock. I immediately thought that I would end up alone bc I assumed my bf would leave me ( he never showed any inclination for that it was just my panicking brain), that my religious family wouldn't help us ever and then after digesting that news I had to deal with a high risk pregnancy. Me not following the instructions would've meant almost a certain late term abortion. The idea of doing it in purpose never even crossed my mind.
So, given the months bedridden at the hospital and at home and the fear of losing my kid that gripped me since the beginning that had me follow every single thing by the book... I just cannot understand this teen at all.
It does appear like she's afraid of the mother though and I obviously don't know if she had some mental breakdown to end up doing that...
My parents were 19 and 20 when my sister was born and I came only a 2.5 years later. My mom had a pregnancy between us, she had to have an abortion for for health reasons. Even though my mom's parents were very religious and it was late 80's, early 90's in a country fresh out of communism she had options even then. Someone in 2023 has so many more.
I think she could have be dissociate af, like the girl who gave birth to her baby at the bathroom of her prom, she got the baby, she throw it to the trash and keep dancing, she was so dissociate that she didn't even consider the baby a baby, honestly this seems like that, because going to the hospital was such a stupid idea if she was planning to do this
Your experience isn’t everyone else’s experience. Congrats on not having a controlling, abusive mother but some people have to live with them. Some children are more sheltered than others.. duh.
@@tamaramaureirajimenez977i was thinking the same! She probably didn’t even register that the baby was a human life, just like the girl in the prom story.
I've been following this case pretty closely. According to some of the research I've seen, her classmates/friends were interviewed by the police. They said she KNEW she was pregnant and planning to name the baby Alex, whether it was a girl or boy. That was BEFORE her arrest. So seeing that "memorial" is so much more disturbing.
She named him Alex Fierro after she didn't want bf's name on death or birth certificate 🤷😢yet they're Alexee and Dylan are suing the hospital for wrongful death,her lawyer Mitchell found loopholes to reduce her charges enough for her to walk on a technicality and blame the hospital.
@jenniferornelas4151 She may not get off on the technicalities she is aiming for. Morphine is far less likely the cause of death than her taking diet pills in an attempt to hide the pregnancy. It really is gonna depend on the jury I think.
@@jenniferornelas4151she’s not going to walk no way
@@HandbagDiva we will see our laws suck and it's yesterday's news sad to say, but she won't get as much as deserved,her lawyer found a loophole and people will be super angry but it's very possible she will on a technicality.
That makes the whole situation even weirder and frustrating because naming her child meant she was probably planning on welcoming her child into the world and keep him so why would she go to such measure to get rid of him? It’s so mind boggling honestly
Rest in peace, sweet boy. You didn't deserve this.
It was a fetus, lacking in sentience and emotions...
It wouldn't even understand your sentiment.
@@zoomcards-nt9ho it’s wasn’t a fetus it was a full grown baby that had emotions and could survive what is wrong with you?
@@ßadpatty fully grown? at a minute old? truthfully, it's no different from a fetus. People who consider it fine to abort are hypocrites for feeling horrified at this one's termination.
emotions? what emotions? the same ones a fetus has if it kicks inside the womb? does it stop us from seeing it as less than human? no. and i find nothing wrong with that. but the same logic applies to this "baby." I have far more sympathy for the panicking, ignorant girl than the fetus.
@@zoomcards-nt9hoIT WAS A FULL DARN BABY. YOU MONSTER.
@@juliemesser2053 explain to me why it's different from a fetus.
Imagine if they told the mother of the legal adult to exit the room before announcing sensitive health information and then offered her counseling and support before telling the mother.
exactly, I’m pretty sure she reacted this way because of the tension and reaction of her mother. She probably saw no other way out of that situation, and the baby suffered for it :/
I know. Technically speaking you'd think they'd had done that regardless since Lexi was 19.
@@mossyteeflike… come onnnn… she literally had opportunity to ask for help
Right!!! Probably would have saved that baby if they did...
@@Bunny_McSnuggles thank you… my dad was 19 when I was born, and his parents were NOT happy. he still realized because they chose to keep me to full term, and bring me into the world, he had to be a father. There was no going back. I have no sympathy for this girl. She had so many options prior to this. Not to mention there are more than cases like this than this one. She was at prom not too long ago. She killed her baby because she didn’t want to be a mom, she wasn’t ready to be an adult, point blank period.
The two mothers smiling and laughing at each other while their grandchild lies dead in one of the hospital rooms sent literal chills down my spine. I had to pause the video to take several deep breaths in order to calm myself down. To think that they aren't even trying to hide the fact that they give absolutely zero shits about the poor baby.
but why the boyfriend's mother too? how can the 2 personalities of complete strangers be so similar?
@@lolboy-642Fr. I never understand how in some of these cases awful people just find a way towards each other.
@@lolboy-642 Sadly this could be a case of neither mom wanted to take responsibility for their Grandchild, so it was just a "happy" convenience for them. It's clear Alexie is not mentally stable, so it would probably come down to the Grandmothers to take care of the baby.
This whole video was pretty hard to watch in itself for me too and I had trouble watching and I dont understand how grown adults dont see that there are both sides.Clearly both mothers seemed like phsycopaths and Alexia was most likely so scared and had been through abuse which caused such behaviors.Alexia seems like a socio path.But I also thought of other possible scenarios and how there are cult behaviors,such as people who forcefully make their child have babies to later make them kill them as sacrifices even if this sounds far fetched this looks like it could have been a possibility due to my observance of alexia’s mother and her bf mother.The step dad was sketchy too “even if he was crying”.
That genuinely shocked me. Whether they have a shot about the baby is irrelevant to me, the kid still died, was potentially murdered, and you’re sitting there fucking laughing ?!
As a former Emergency Department triage nurse, the number of patients that I’ve had that flat out lied to my face during triage is staggering. Side note: that defense lawyer’s strategy is laughable. Thank you for covering this case.
I’ve seen so many it’s so sad
So happy to hear somebody say his defense is laughable. I have been watching COURT-tv and some many people are agreeing with him. She lied to the STAFF. They could not properly do their job. Alexee and her boyfriend are now suing the hospital for wrongful death!
I 100% agree that Alexee KNEW the baby was alive and chose to kill it, when she could’ve alerted medical staff and & anonymously surrendered her baby. I’m not sure what the hospital could’ve done to prevent her from killing her baby in a state of panic or post partum psychosis.
Considering that Alexie seemed more scared of her mother than jail, was it possible for A&E staff to ask her mother to leave the room while Alexie answered sexual health questions?
Whether or not Alexie knew she was pregnant before active labour, Alexie probably wouldn’t tell the truth while her mother was present when Alexie was already lying to her mother about being a virgin until the crime happened.
I agree he has the audacity to say that they gave her morphine and painkillers and how that is dangerous to the baby. Did he not do any research because they give women morphine and painkillers during early labor. I was given a 20 mg Percocet told to go home and wait until my contractions were just minutes apart. Also the fact that he is trying to blame the hospital staff it's ridiculous there are cameras everywhere and shows what she did and the bodycam footage shows she has absolutely no remorse for what she did she wasn't even crying it was fake
Cause it’s not your business lol
I have never seen someone admit guilt louder via deflection than the mother in this case. It’s so obviously they planned to make it look like she didn’t know when they both did.
Same with the boyfriend and his mom. What did they all just plot to not have to step up? 🤢
As a medical student who’s only started experiencing the hospital life for around 2 years, I can’t imagine the emotions and trauma all the medical staffs must be going through. I teared up listening to their thoughts at end of the video. I think I would crumble if I were in their positions
Even the police officers winced at hearing the details. Horrifying.
And now the mother is suing them. That's crazy.
I used to work in medical billing and quit because reading a lot of that stuff messed me up. Having been there must've been horrifying.
You’re gonna be expected to work through this, have no emotion, push it back, get the job done. Don’t let them take that humanity from you. Don’t let them tell you that being affected by what you see makes you any less of a doctor because it in fact makes you a better one. I’ve seen some doctors completely shut themselves off so it doesn’t effect the efficiency of them providing care for their patients but stepping away for a minute to process when you can is probably healthier. And if you ever feel like you’re going to crumble, you’ll have a team of nurses and techs and aides there to pick you back up.
@@MsTalkingbook Even though I should have expected it, I was still shocked when I heard about the lawsuit. How dare they?! Wrongful death? Are you kidding me?!
The hospital staff should be able to sue Alexee for all of the trauma she caused them. I know, that's not how things work, but if anyone deserves compensation, it's them.
57:03 you can hear the step dads sniffles. That’s a real human right there. The fact that her mother is acting like that is disgusting, I feel terrible for the step dad.
I feel awful for her step dad
So sad
I think he's the father
@@salmasalaat1086it crossed my mind but I don’t think so
I’m so jaded I can’t help but wonder if he’s the dad.
As someone who is regularly constipated because of a nerve disorder, I can easily spend 20+ minutes in the bathroom for genuine reasons. lol
I once spent four hours just sitting there. I fell asleep like five times
@@chickennuggiepartygirl9749glad I’m not the only one who has fallen asleep on the toilet
@@YourJapanic its pretry common actually. But most people are too embarrassed to admit it. Honestly just own it lmao. Its embarrassing but kinda funny
Same I was like, oh..just 20 min?? Hell I’ve been in there for over an hour close to 2😂
I spent more than 20 minutes in the bathroom on my period because it's hard for me to even go number 2 when I feel so much pain (Cramps and soreness in the wooha area and butt) when I try to push it takes a while for me to get everything out and be done.
Just finished the video and decided to look for an update... she is currently out and in college while she waits for the trail. That is crazy!!!
That is stupid and crazy!
tbh i don't think it's crazy
Found that she was released from jail on $100.000 bond but also that she waits for trial
Teen with a presumably abusive/toxic mom, high on MORPHINE (!!), going through chronic pain and possibly affected by postpartum kills baby, and we still treat her like a vicious murderer, THAT is crazy to me. Did she have other options? yes. was what she did wrong? yes. But is it worth essentially ending her life over?
Rehabilitation also includes criminals recieving the proper education to be able to re-enter society when their sentence is finished. And speculation is pretty gross about this case imo. Chemical imbalances sadly drive a person to do things they'd never even think about with a sane mind.
@@mellow1821 girl you cannot possibly be defending her rn... then where is the remorse? this wasn't just some silly mistake. she didn't just throw the baby and leave. she intentionally took her time to suffocate the baby in a trash bag, put more trash bags on top of him and paper towels to hide it. if you think that is in any way excusable, im begging you please do not have any children. you should be the one in a rehab centre right now getting the help that you so clearly need
I've been a housekeeper for 4 years at a hospital and work specifically in the labor & delivery and neonatal units. We are trained to throw out and wipe down EVERYTHING in areas with heavy biohazard, and we are constantly trashing out waste, linen, and contaminated products in our areas. With this, you get used to the different weights of filled waste bags and can sometimes clock out what makes them heavy. However, if a bag is oddly heavy, we can check to see if something important may have been accidently thrown away.
So, I commend Leela for her thoroughness, and I wish her and the rest of the hospital staff the best in getting through this tragedy.
The mother of Alexie is unbelievable. She never asked about her grandbaby and the other grandmother stayed quiet. I would have fainted if were the grandmother of an issue like that. Rose was a heartless person
and a terrible mother, wish they would lock her up
K cool
@@isabelwilliams8072Not only that I believe the mother told that she-devil daughter pof hers to get rid of it by any means necessary but the daughter got caught trust me that wicked lien mother knew exactly what was going on!! 😮
Her loyalty must be to her daughter first
Not heartless. Her daughter comes first always
She knew she was pregnant, even her classmates came forward to say she even picked out a name, and everything for the baby.
source?
In those kind of cases, are we sure we want to believe people who get a bit of fame?
@@MiotaLee There is even a photo of her in her cheerleader uniform at school looking around 6 months. There was definitely a bump, so it makes no sense if nobody new.
@@jesikkahigh6886 seen it. I meant the source for the classmates speaking up.
@@jesikkahigh6886 there’s several pictures like that, but yes the one in her cheerleading uniform is most obvious. That’s why I don’t understand why this creator keeps saying that she “didn’t look pregnant”. Did she look like she was a humongous, ready to pop, nine months? Eh, that’s up to everyone’s own pov. But to say she didn’t look AT LEAST a solid 5 to 6 months is completely absurd.
The fact that the step father is the only one showing any emotion- any humanity- is haunting. Hearing him try to hold back his tears while the baby is being discussed was heartbreaking.
Safe Haven Laws: She could have given birth in the bathroom, handed the baby over, and reminded them this is confidential and she doesn't want her mom to know. Baby could have lived, been given away in secret that night, and the staff could have said it was something else like a ruptured cyst due to confidentiality. But no, she chose infanticide...
How do you know about this!?
not well known knowledge at all but good on u for spreading the word! i hope it helps people in the future
good knowledge to know but doubt a 19yr old knew that
@@sadcodplayerhonestly if I was her, I would’ve tried to do a lot of research on how to give away the baby silently. I’m 16. My mind would never go to literally strangling my child (and I don’t even like kids). It sucks how she didn’t even feel safe enough to confide in her mother so much that she would rather be seen as a murderer.
@@imunderyourbed7577 do we know how the baby died? im not up-to-date with the case but i don't think she strangled it...and you absolutely cannot speak to what you would do in that situation if you have never experienced it. but yes it is a shame that she couldn't confide in her mother
i 1000% believe the mom is the main factor behind her daughter's decision. her behaviour is beyond strange and indicative of an extremely controlling parent. i think alexee did what she did out of panic bc she didn’t know she could give up the baby without informing her mom and she was terrified of her finding out. it’s a horrific, inhuman way to die, let alone for a child. terrible situation.
edit: since y’all love to interpret things in the worst way possible, let me clarify. I AM NOT EXCUSING ALEXEE'S ACTIONS. what i am saying is that i believe her mother was the main motivating factor that led her to make the choices she made. dismissing the situation as “she's an adult, she’s just evil and loves killing babies” is not helping anyone or anything. we need to understand WHY these things happen or they will keep happening.
Not really it was the daughters fault. The mother did not commit the action. The daughter did.
@ImaginaryFriendxx no daughter would rather kill her baby than to ask her mom for help, her mother most likely demonised teen pregnancy and that led her daughter to commit the act. Her daughter is at fault for committing the act, but her mother is also partially at fault for making her feel as if she HAD to commit the act
@@naomi5874 Oh alright! that makes sense
@ImaginaryFriendxx all around, it's a super weird situation and the only one who we know was completely was innocent was the baby that was killed a few minutes after their birth
@naomi5874 that was so sad though. I hope the baby is doing better in the afterlife.
The mother knew, they all knew, the boyfriend, the mother-in-law they all knew. Rip to the innocent baby who paid the price by losing his life in such a horrific way 😢
The fact that the boyfriend went to friggen prom with her after what happened tells me everything.
1. She wanted to go yo prom
2. She was allowed to go to prom
3. Her boyfriend didn’t break up with her.
4. The boyfriend was allowed to go to prom with her.
Everyone was in on it.
i doubt that, they (minus alexie )probably had their suspicions but that’s about it
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140nah the boyfriend was probably just glad that he didn’t have to be involved in raising a kid i doubt he knew about the pregnancy
@@heartsmyfaceforever8140And didn't she also posted on instagram soon after that incident like nothing happened?
I'm a doctor in Panama and sadly cases like this are quite common here😞. We have learned not to believe young women when they say they are not pregnant and still do a pregnancy exam. Sad reality of living in a place with very poor public education facilities, non existent sexual education, and illegal abortion.
Hopefully you guys can turn it around. Have sex education and have laws of non-abortion laws.😊
The Uniited States seems to be right on your heels for the same wiilful ignorance. Overturning Roe v. Wade. Right-wingers and religious nutjobs pushing for a nationwide abortion ban. Abstinance-only education. Birth control is next on the hit list. There are people in this country that want to make sure that EVERY sex act has the chance of conception -- regardless of the mother's age, who the father is, or the circumstances. If you have sex, you better be prepared to be parents.
También soy de Panamá y como duele oír esos casos, lo peor es que no se habla de estos por ningún lado, todo el mundo quiere fingir que no suceden
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I am also from Panama and it hurts to hear about these cases, the worst thing is that these topics are not talked about anywhere, everyone wants to pretend that they do not happen
My dad is Panamanian, a few years ago my abuela who lives in Panama found a baby in a dumpster 😢 luckily the baby was still alive and crying and was rushed to a hospital and survived but it’s awful that it happened
@@juliemesser2053non abortion doesn’t stop abortion. it just stops safe ones.
Alexee's step father in the waiting room was continuously wiping away tears. It's crazy that he was the only one that showed that emotion. I know people handle these high stress, really bad situations differently but, that man cared and understood the weight of it all. He wanted to know about the baby. Her mom's reactions and things she said were so strange to me and it bothered me alot. The entire situation is so horrific. The little baby boy deserved a happy life.
I think they need to dna test the baby, alexee, her bf, and the step father.
I don't believe any of them, there's a reason why they're together. If he cared, their fates would be different. This is an act.
@@bonniescalise6274why the step father?
@@s0ne01i think they believe the stepdad could have been the father.
@@s0ne011. because he was whipping . A little weird right there.
2. Why did alexee didn’t wanted her bf to be listed on the baby’s death certificate? Whyy if he was the father ? 3. This more like a question … was the baby cremated cause if he was why? Like why???
As a social worker who has worked in child protection, I am sick and tired of people blaming the hospital staff. It is Alexee alone who is responsible for the death of her baby.
That teen definitely needed help, but "mothers" are expected to not be traumatized and just love the child. As a social worker you should be more concerned about why she (herself a child) was so much under pressure, that she thought she only can safe her life by hurting the child. The adults let her down.
@@insideAdirtyMind respectfully, she was an adult. i don't care who you are, you first thought after having a baby should not be to stick it in a fucking trash bag. that's vile and sick. if she had just given the babies to the doctors, or a nurse, or someone, all of it could have been avoided. instead she stuck her baby in a trash bag.
lets take a moment to acknowledge the fact that her issues with her mom are issues. not necessarily the cause. the only person you can control is yourself.
now on a totally different note, she stuck her child in a trash can, and referred to the baby multiple times as 'it'. her way of brushing it off and making it seem like the situation isn't as bad as it is, (which is a manipulation tactic) and trying to drive the point home 'it wasn't crying or breathing'. ok as it stands that may be true, but you still put him in a fucking trash can. just like those nurses said, she knew perfectly well what she was doing was wrong. the fact that her mother was also referring to the baby as 'it' but also scolding her daughter was weird to me too. i do think however that it was weird how she was scolding her daughter for not telling her that she was pregnant, but not scolding her for putting him in a trash can.
as it stands, (and scream at me all you want for this) trauma is not a valid excuse, or a excuse in general, to put your child in a trashcan. period. i know plenty of people who are traumatized, and they would still have the sense to not put their babies in a trashcan. if she had come out of the bathroom, and handed it to someone, they would have still chalked it up to just a mis carriage.
(not saying that mis carriages aren't tramautic as fuck, just saying even someone with no common sense wouldn't have put their child in a trash can.)
to the person I @ed, sorry for coming off so aggressive, you are entitled your opinion like I am to mine.
@@insideAdirtyMindshe works in “CHILD PROTECTION” alexee isn’t a child hun.
@@insideAdirtyMind she's not a child she choose to have sex and theres always a chance of getting pregnant. A baby is not something you can take back. She became a mom when she got pregnant a.d she should of protected her baby I was 19 with my child was born.
@@insideAdirtyMind your logoc is off. So any traumatic early years means you get a pass to murder your infant? Ridiculous. Many social workers including myself have experienced traumatic pasts but use the experience to help others and not murder. No social worker is a psychiatric doctor and we don't have to diagnose a client and no past traumatic experience can ever excuse murdering children. We work to prevent harm to children. Alexee isn't a child. No baby deserves to be stuck in a bin and suffocated. I will say it again there is no excuses for any parent abusing or murdering a child. None!
I am livid with this case. I can’t believe that the stepdad is the ONLY person visibly upset and crying. SHE WAS IN A HOSPITAL. As a mom, yes postpartum psychosis is real, BUT I also can’t imagine throwing a baby away in a trash can. She has a voice, she could’ve used it to simply say “help me” and they would’ve.
you cant say "yes postpartum psychosis is real" than add but. psychosis makes you do things you would never do in your sane mind and if someone is going through psychosis they are not going to be thinking logically enough to ask for help. they are literally experiencing psychosis. asking for help isnt that simple which is why so many people hurt themselves and others instead of asking for help.
@@babypeach3321she committed a murder but people have been found not guilty because of insanity so i would bet she could just need therapy and not jailtime
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I do have to add. Being found not guilty due to insanity is not straightforward in court. That argument works in case of delusions, but if there is any possibility you could think, that argument is thrown out. Her doing multiple steps to get rid of the baby, lying about what she was doing, being aware of her surroundings, etc. are already things that crumble that defense. Pregnancy does add even more layers though
The people that don’t agree with you, yes psychosis is real BUT you can only be not responsible for a crime if you literally don’t know what is right and what is wrong. Yes there is temporary insanity but that’s extremely hard to prove. So don’t say there is no “but” because there very much is.
she obviously didn‘t have psychosis to 99% I don‘t even get what this comment is trying to say
I've watched maybe two of your videos and I've gotta say... you have a way with telling these stories that's unexplainable. The detail. The depth of emotion. The way you speak. It's very professional and alluring to the story. Thank you for your hard work.
I would mostly agree except they aren't very professional because she inserts her emotions/opinions/characterizations to color the stories in very specific ways pretty much every time. Which is fine, that's her style, but it isn't professional, it's sensational.
Honestly it seems that her mom’s initial reaction to her pregnancy is the catalyst for her trying to get rid of it. It’s very sad that they couldn’t reassure her that it wasn’t the end of the world when she found out
yeah, while was she did was absolutely horrendous, i still feel sympathy for her. so many non-violent options but she was made to feel like she could only chose the worst one.
@@hamtaru absolutely agree. The fear of disappointment is real, especially when it comes to a disapproving parent 😪
Sorry but I have zero sympathy. New Mexico has abortion on demand up until birth. Lexi could have had an abortion at anytime before this and her mom would have been none the wiser. She also could have left the child at the hospital and no one would have cared. Instead she chose to lie and murder her child.
It is, and I think the guy's mother knew , so nobody wanted that child
@@Nai7547 somebody wants that baby, they could have just left it at the hospital or aborted it an timely fashion.
Never blame the hospital staff. It is not their fault that she killed that poor baby. She made that choice herself. She didn’t even make any attempt to help them save the baby and give him the life he deserved. May he rest in eternal peace and unite with a family that can love him to their fullest extent
Well think they mean they should’ve been more aware something was up and done something sooner because it was said Alexi was in the bathroom for 20 minutes. That’s way too long. They should’ve went in after 10 minutes at least.
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Update: just was reminded that she said she was constipated.. I forgot about that when I did my comment. But makes sense as to why they waited so long. Situation is just crazy and sad
@@miriamschiro8585no because who in a million years would've expected such a horrific murder to suddenly happen as the hospital, hospital is definitely not at fault
@@miriamschiro8585she said she was constipated. it isn't uncommon to be in the bathroom for more than 10 min. after the 20 minutes was when they heard the flushing + paper towel dispenser.
That hospital & their staff is not responsible for what Alexee did. She lied to them from the very beginning. She is an adult. She knew she was pregnant. Nothing excuses her for committing 1st degree murder. I hope she rots in prison for years & years
What eternal peace with a family? He's gone.
There has been an update that pertains to what you were talking about near the end: They released the baby's toxicology report and he had a tiny (insignificant) amount of morphine in his system. I'm sure the defense will try to twist it and say that's what killed him, since they're blaming the hospital for everything, but it was literally nanograms worth of morphine.
However, he also had nanograms of phentermine in his system, and the hospital did not give that to Alexee. So what that proves is that she actually was on diet pills, but not just any diet pills, prescription diet pills that are a controlled substance because they are in the amphetamine family, and are contraindicated in pregnant women.
That finding has caused SO many additional questions. Where did she get them? No ethical doctor would prescribe them to a woman without doing a pregnancy test first. (Although there are plenty of unethical doctors out there.) Was she buying them off of the street? And, as you said, was she taking those drugs to try to hide the weight that she was gaining from the pregnancy? Or did she know they were bad for pregnant women and hoped they would cause a miscarriage? There are plenty of weight loss drugs out there, she took the one that people often refer to as "legal meth." That's significant.
There are a lot of unanswered questions in this case, and I have a feeling that even more shocking information is going to come out.
I was given morphine while in labor bc I didn't want an epidural the 1st time. I was 20. They know what they are doing. The normal dosage given to the mom, even for back pain. Isn't enough to cause harm to the baby. Not to mention if you listened to the description the baby was breathing hense how the plastic was able to cause suffocation. Meaning born alive. She murdered him....instead of giving him a fair shot. We have safe haven laws...a hospital is one of the best approved locations to surrender your baby with no repacussions. It's a law that's not new and has been around to help people in the situations and to help cut down on horrific crimes like this! What this young woman did was vile.
@@GingerThereforeNoSoul Absolutely! It's not the best idea in the world to be give a pregnant woman morphine later on in the labor, it can technically affect the baby's breathing. But it's pretty common to give it in early labor. And the tests have been done: He had a tiny, insignificant amount in his system and he died because he suffocated in a trash bag.
I hate her lawyer. He was talking about how it's all the hospital's fault and morphine is contraindicated in pregnant women. I've worked in the medical field for over 20 years. That's just not true. And you don't need an MD to know that. (I don't have one.) I'm pretty sure you can find that out from a quick Google search.
Also, she was an adult and she went to the hospital for pain. It was her responsibility to tell them, "BTW I'm pregnant." I know they're claiming that she didn't know, but no one is buying that. MAYBE the mom didn't know. Alexee definitely knew.
I kind of hope they stream this trial because I can't wait to see the prosecution obliterate the defense's "expert" witnesses. I want to hear the doctor say that you can't give morphine to a pregnant woman. Really?! Because it's literally done every single day. 🤦♀
@Lang172588 me too. I hope to watch the trial....and you're correct it can possibly affect their Apgar scores...like my little ones' first score was just one point off from perfect....but they do them multiple times...and he passed. Then, he failed his first hearing test. Stressed me out....my grandmother was there...sneezed while the nurse held him, and he got so startled he woke up crying...and the nurse was like...I have a feeling he'll pass it later....which he thankfully did. Her lawyer is disgusting, but that's what they aren't meant to do, unfortunately. Hopefully, it's a jury trial....and they don't play that game. I hope there's a few mothers in that jury.
I believe it came out that her mother gave her the diet pills
@@jennibishop718 That was what I suspected happened. If the mom didn't know she was pregnant (which seems impossible, but let's assume for argument's sake), she seems like the kind of person who would be concerned with her daughter gaining weight. How many times in that bodycam footage did she mention that Alexee was a cheerleader? Yeah, lady, we know. You've told everyone.
Red flag her dad beat her so bad that she needs to see a chiropractor, but he still has joint custody of her? And how can you have custody of someone 19 years old?
Chiropractors are fake doctors anyways so the fact they chose to see one really doesn't say much from a medical standpoint.
The fact that the one person in the waiting room who is not actually related to the baby is the only one actually crying is very concerning.
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@@JJdear2 That person is saying it anywhere that brings up the stepdad. They are either a troll or just sexist since apparently men can't openly cry without something fishy going on.
@@OverlordDenooh 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bro I just stumbled upon this thread below a comment I made literally yesterday, can someone tell me what the heck is going on.
@markthesapphicdumpsterfire1745 I gave an opinion and some folks got a hair up their ass about it..smdh..
Rosa honestly reminds me of my own mother. I got pregnant at 17, my mom knew I had a boyfriend and never spoke about s*x with me. When I had to admit to her that I was pregnant she yelled at me and blamed it all on me telling me that I didn't even know how badly I ruined my life. There was no sympathy and no comfort from her. My boyfriend (now husband) and I had to figure everything out ourselves for the sake of our daughter. My mother literally pretended like I wasn't pregnant the whole time. I feel so sorry for all the young women who go through their pregnancies alone. I'm in no way excusing Alexee, but I do think with guidance she would have made better choices and at least not murder her son. Truly a heartbreaking situation.
Did you expect your mom to provide for you, your child and your baby's daddy? We have all being teens but not all of us got pregnant
@@xVadRay wow you're so pleasant. No I didn't expect her to just take care of everything for me, but she could have talked to me and just supported me through it. It's the lack of any empathy from her which ps she got pregnant herself at 18. I just wanted her to care that's all. My boyfriend and I both worked and moved out ourselves, I finished school myself and took care of my baby when she was born.
I’m sorry your mom failed you, she should have at least taken the time to educate you to prevent teen pregnancy or provided emotional support when you found out you were pregnant. Every child deserves a parent who will actually care for them and educate them with love and be there when they need support. Alexi clearly didn’t have that and while it doesn’t excuse her actions, it does explain a lot.
@@xVadRay It sounds like you would be exactly the kind of parent that would drive a teenager into a situation like this out of fear of telling their parent. People make mistakes. If I picked through your life I could find a million things you fucked up on and say 'wow we've all been there but we didn't fuck up the way you did.' Judging other people doesn't make you better than them, it just makes you an untrustworthy confidant.
@@xVadRay are you slow? they probably expected their mother to.. you know.. mother? tell them basics about sex? and actually care and worry about their child? like a normal mother
There are 2 people you never want to lie to, your doctor and your lawyer. If they don’t know what’s truthfully going on, they can’t help. It doesn’t matter if your in the hospital from complications from drug use or whatever the case may be, if they don’t know they can’t give you proper treatment which can cost you your life.
And then there's typically one person you *CAN'T ( **_successfully_** ) lie to...* your own *mother!*
@@brischarrer lol you can xD
**you're* in the hospital...
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Absolutely no way that this was a case of postpartum depression and its disgusting to use it as an excuse when there are real life women who struggle.. She lied from the absolute beginning of conception.
Thank you! EVEN if it was a postpartum depression you are still held accountable for your actions. The diagnosis is not meant to be used as an excuse but rather to be identified to treat BEFORE it escalates to unreversable actions. Whether she was in her right state of mind or not she was clearly more scared of facing the consequences of giving birth rather than seeking help during and even after the pregnancy. She was still denying she was pregnant until they had to basically say 'we know what you did'
why do so many people have the same d*mb fucking opinion as this? how is being under a severe psychosis not an excuse? how is anything an excuse if literally having your sense of reality warped isn't?
I am 19 and recently miscarried. My mom was in jail and I never got to tell her, I was waiting until she was out. I loved my baby so much, my partner and I immediately named her Colette and we had such high hopes for our baby girl. I could not imagine harming Colette in this way but growing up with such a controlling parent, I understand the fear that comes with things like this.
I’m so sorry for your miscarriage.
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I grew up with an extremely controlling mom and family. No way in he'll I would have ever committed such an evil, despicable act. That is just a ridiculous excuse for an inhuman person to commit an in-human evil.
I’m so sorry you lost Colette. I wish you all the best and a happy future 💜
Just know Colette will always be a part of your body. Studies show that once a baby is implanted whether it lives or not the babies cells fight off any harm that comes to moms body. Its truly amazing how she was able to harm her child in such a way and still baby Doe continues to protect mom
The girl absolutely needs to take responsibility for what she did but the mother also definitely needs to be looked into because she’s seems to be a big factor. They shouldn’t have let the mom in the room. The girl was 19 anyways. I hope they both get the help that they need.
I would get it for emotional support and that young adults still feel a bit of dependents on their parents but was the assertiveness the mother had that shot alarm bells in my head
The girl def needs prison time, don’t give her excuses
@@Dolphinboi We not making excuses the 19 year old definitely deserves prison time but children pick up behavior from their parents and the mother/grandmother is acting odd here to.
@@Dolphinboi no she definitely deserves to go to prison Bc she had EVERY chance to prevent what happened
@@Star.fall. the girl is just not in the right mind
I swear to christ ASK PEOPLE THINGS WITHOUT THEIR PARENT if you think theres something weird going on! abusive parents are scarier than killing your baby sometimes.
They are until the prison system sucks your entire life away.
This is so important, only when you have lived with abusive parents you understand this. It's not good what she did but I'm sure she was really scared of her mom
Absolutely, I personally grew up with an abusive mother and even talking about the actions that happened in my house still brings fear because we were told to tell no one since it was considered “normal” so I can see her being scare
this is a horribly scary and sad story :(
Exactly! 💯
She had the option to pull the red lever in the bathroom... and she still threw the baby in the trash... this is disgusting.
The father looked so upset, he’s a full grown man and he’s crying, which made me realize how serious this is and I feel so bad for him because I can’t imagine how he’s feeling or how he’s processing this
Because mom and daughter hid this from him. He probably felt so betrayed.
A 19 year old is not a “full grown man.” Literally been a legal adult less than a year and minimum 6 years away from finishing brain development.
@@LGrianIt's old enough to know to not kill a baby
@@LGrianpretty sure they’re talking about the stepdad not the boyfriend. the stepdad was the only one crying.
Men can cry. It's a normal expression of emotion.
I'm a mother. When I was 21, I found out I was pregnant at 7 months, I was in an incredibly difficult situation and could not be a good mother or give a baby a good life. I contacted a lawyer and chose open adoption. 17 years later and I have a good relationship with my daughter and I know I made the right choice. Never once did I consider wrapping my baby in a bag and disguising her as garbage. This young woman murdered her child and she deserves the full consequences of her choices.
for real, even today there are so many options for women who dont want babies and i doubt this girl had just found out because of how sketchy she was before
I got pregnant at 17 and I was forced to tell my mother and I had to grow up for my daughter. Never once did I ever think to throw my baby away. I love that you are sharing your story there's no shame in adoption and there's no shame in keeping your baby. There's only shame when you harm an innocent child.
not judging u at all i believe u did the right thing and the best thing for u and that baby but i have a question why it took u so long to notice and what make u think u was pregnant
@@angelesschultz1570 Yeah, no worries, I thought it was weird too. So, I was overweight at the time, vegetarian, and my job was going door to door for a nonprofit so lots of walking. All that led to me actually losing weight. I still had a, albeit light, period, and she didn't move for a long time (compared to my other baby) and her movements were so small. I think I also carried her towards my back vs to the front like I did with my son. I did have nausea occasionally, but I just chalked it up to the flu or something. Lastly, I had used protection before I broke up with my boyfriend then hadn't had any s*x in 7 months so yeah, I didn't put it all together until I felt her really move and realize my stomach was starting to protrude beyond my chub.
Read the story of Moses… you and your daughter are the exact same story. What a wonderfully blessed mother, daughter and all included. Thank you for your sharing.
I grew up in a traditional Hispanic family. While I don't think anything can justify this girl's actions, I can understand her fear. As a teenage girl my worst nightmare was to get pregnant. My parents never had the sex talk with me, but I was expected to remain "pure" or else they would disown me because my life was essentially over. I would have been terrified of my mother in this situation and while I would have never done anything as horrific as straight up killing a child, there would have been urges to somehow hide my pregnancy or even end it by ending my life. I just think a bigger conversation needs to be had about why this girl was more terrified of facing her mom than being a murderer. My goal as a future parents is to provide a safe space for my child and be their guide during the good AND the bad times. I remember talking to my mom about birth control when I was 20 years old and she absolutely freaked out. That led me to believe that I couldn't trust her when it came to the real life stuff I was going through. It's just sad.
She is not a teenager if she is old enough to have sex, she knew risks.people really need to stop treating her like victim she knew what she was doing, she is a grown ass adult even if she lives with her parents. I find the excuse bullshit that she was that scared of her mom. There are so many kids afraid of their parents but they’re not committing crime like this. The girl is not victim she is a criminal, the baby is the victim. If I offended anyone with my harsh opinion I apologize. This whole family needs therapy
@@lomapatel1389this🙌 I'm Hispanic and had really strict parents. I understand the fear 100% but I know just like anyone not to kill my child . She is not a victim.
@@Cherrycola007 Hi I am a Hindu and i have strict parents so I understand but that doesn’t mean because you have strict parents it’s ok to kill she could have just delivered the baby in private hiding it from her and speaking to the doctors and nurses privately and let them know she doesn’t want the baby. All trying to say she doesn’t deserve sympathy. She knew what she was doing.
precisely this. everyone's behavior seems so straightforward to me. a woman's "purity" is such a huge thing in society and especially so in traditional middle class POC/immigrant communities. i don't think pointing this out = empathizing or agreeing with alexi's actions. it's just that it's easier for some of us to see where the behavior stems from even if we, personally, wouldn't do the same thing in the circumstance
@@lomapatel1389People are teenagers until they turn 20, it's not based on how much they know or if they're old enough for anything, it's based on their development.
Not all people really know what sex even is because not all countries have sex ed and not all parents really talk to their children about that.
Alexi might be a victim of her mother's abuse judging by her actions. If she was so terrified of her mother finding out, she probably had a reason to be terrified. Her being a victim doesn't give her the right to commit crimes obviously, it just explains why she decided to do it in the first place. I think it's good that people try to analyse her behaviour and find underlying issues, that can help prevent things like this from happening in the future. So yes, Alexi is both (probably) a victim AND a criminal.
The baby is obviously someone who suffered the worst and is the victim of the crime that his "mother" commited.
(I want to say, I obviously don't condone or support any of Alexi's actions, they're disgusting and evil, but there are just many details that make this situation complicated. A lot of people also relate to having a mother like Alexi's so they comment about it, which is good because again in the long run it can save lives or make them better.)
People saying “oh what a slow night” or “it’s so quiet” is also like a curse for the rest of the night to be insane in bar work
Situations like this make me immediately think the parents are a huge issue. Why is your child so petrified to tell you the truth to the point of this intense denial?
Apparently a girl I kinda dated terminated her pregnancy because her father would disown her for having a baby before marriage. This is backed up by her little sister who heard the conversation with their mom & the father doesn't know to this day.
It's quite real I tell you
She was AN ADULT no chid, no mama needed. SHE killed her kid not the mother. Sick how everyone is focused on the mother instead the actually ADULT killer
@hennigadient4265 she was a teenager and living in her parent's home. that's a kid.
what she did wasn't right and no one is saying it was but clearly there was something going on in the home for this girl to be so terrified of confiding in the people who were meant to keep her safe
@@sleepyfoxyYT 🎉🎉🎉
Coming from a nurse’s perspective, I feel for the baby, but I really feel for the medical staff. The guilt I would have for not having found the baby in time would kill me I think. This hurt so many people
@@chicahoneyit's not up to the doctors to tell her she's pregnant. She was denying everything and not saying anything. She popped the baby out & still chose to put him in the trash.
I understand the guilty feeling, but they did nothing wrong. No sane human would suspect someone to kill an infant inside a hospital.
@@chicahoney I actually watched the video. The staff told daughter and mom she was pregnant before the restroom… Pretty key part of story. Maybe things would have gone a lot different if they told this news to the daughter privately. A legal adult . But I am not blaming these hospital staff. They clearly didn’t foresee this situation unfolding.
@@tb564Exactly! ❤
@@chicahoneyUm no they kept denying that she hadn’t had s3x. That she was a virgin over & over. The pre positive result wouldn’t of mattered. Also there is a thing as false positive. That mother would of claimed is wasn’t true & held onto that denial. That’s why they wanted a blood test for solid proof. Overall noo it wouldn’t have saved that baby. That girl had it all planned out what she was going to do. QUIT BLAMING the hospital staff for a MURDERER. You sound like that crazy lawyer she has that said “she handled it the right way” y’all are freaking nuts. I hope she gets MANY years to her sentence in October.
The stepdad is an amazing grandfather for simply caring about the very existence of Baby Doe. With the way everyone else is simply disregarding his existence, I’m worried that that baby wouldn’t have had much of a chance even if he survived and stayed with that family…
Honestly, same.😢😢😢
She could have very easily called for a nurse while in the restroom giving birth & could have let him live - he would’ve been adopted & loved. Alexee chose to murder him instead. She’s a murderer & must pay the price.
if he was an amazing grand father, why didn't he get her prenatal care. you people are so quick to label men amazing for doing nothing. what a joke
He probably cared cause it was his baby!
@@reneecaldwell6558same thoughts
The male nurse was heartbroken. His words “that girl have me no chance to save that baby, and thats my job to save lives”
I ALMOST believed that she didn’t know, I ALMOST believed that her mother didn’t know either, until I saw the photos of her, clearly full term pregnant. Everyone knew. Her mother knew, she knew, her classmates knew.
She knew, but I can see how her mom didn't know (she suspected it)
Yup, just said this in a comment. The pictures are so clear it’s crazy how pregnant she looks.
Absolutely right. This has to be a case of collective denial, starting in an abusive or narcissistic family that keeps secrets and values appearances above all else.
where did you find these pictures?
@@jahkugou She shows it at the end of the video, or you can just google her name and cheerleading pictures.
I feel that pro-life or pro-choice, this is still horrifying. Even if the baby was not breathing, to stuff it into a bag is just so despicable to me... I don't think I would ever be able to recover if I worked in that hospital!
honestly, i’m heavily pro-choice and i am shocked by this. she is so lucky to live in a place like new mexico where so many options were available, but instead she chose to murder her baby right after she gave birth to it, when she could have given it up for adoption by just speaking to a nurse
@isabellagoring872 Options and access are not the same things. Hospital didn't follow proper procedures and ignored her rights, gave her morphine which can cause respiratory issues in babies, and made her feel so unsafe she had to sneak away to give birth. Hospital is definitely the biggest contributor in the death and it's quite presumptuous to assume she caused the baby's death
@@NaNa-ou1sgit's entirely her fault that the baby died, she lied to the hospital staff knowing very well that it could hurt the baby and that trashy mom of hers is just so unbelievable. the fact that she just stuffed the baby in a trash bag is so despicable, and she had the face to go to a prom with her boyfriend (who knew what she did). She's 19 YEARS OLD she's NOT a child, I hope she rots in prison
@@NaNa-ou1sg She threw her baby into the trash. wtf are you talking about. The hospital did not throw the baby into the trash. She did. SHE. DID. And clearly it was mostly her mother making her feel so unsafe.
this has nothing to do with abortion that shouldn’t even be brought into question
I’m an RN. I start tearing up each time I here the charge nurse say “she never even gave me a chance to save that baby” it would be impossible to not feel like a total failure as an RN after something like this.
Oct. 2024 update: As of August 2024, the trial was canceled as the judge deemed as inadmissible evidence both the video of her walking to and from the bathroom and the conversations she had with hospital staff after the discovery of the evidence. She was allowed to go to college (even though some people at their college have publicly protested against her being there), and as of right now, there haven’t been any updates on whether a trial will be pursued later on.
Right ❤❤
I gave birth to my daughter at 19. Learned I was pregnant at 18. Learning I was pregnant got me motivated to start working again, get a car, and an apartment while I was pregnant. she’s the reason I’m alive today. I could never imagine hurting my baby
you are so so strong and amazing ❤️
What a great mamma ❤
How sweet❤ hope you, your baby and loved ones are healthy and happy❤️
I had a baby too, at 19.
She's 24 now 😁
I am proud of you!!!! my step daughter was 17 when she got pregnant and gave birth when she was 18. Honestly that baby saved her life she ended up finishing school and had enrolled in college which she had been saying for years that she didn't want to go to college because she didn't know what she wanted to do. She was lazy and would not hold down a job for more than 2 days. She has now been working for almost 6 months and is enrolled in college.
it goes without saying that the acts alexei committed were heinous and animalistic to say the least. but i am curious to see a psychologist or a mental health professional break down the dynamic between her and her mother. this is not to excuse her behavior at all but to give more insight because i know it’s not normal. it’s beyond an over protective mom or control freak. there is something more sinister about this situation and i think understanding that dynamic will give more insight into this case. either way alexei had more options than most and unfortunately she chose this at the expense of her own child.
"animalistic"??? Animals DO NOT do such terrible things to their young! They PROTECT them, tooth and claw. Only people are capable of such horrendous deeds.
@@HelenaVanCityactually animals do worst, some species even eat their frail babies because they know they won’t survive and just make the group look weaker, that’s where the phrase “natural selection” comes from
@@HelenaVanCity animals literally will eat their own young if their stress is high enough.
@HelenaVanCity I get your point but bad example
I honestly think it is not that deep /nm. It’s giving conservative Christian mom with very poor sex education.
It scares me how much my mom is like Alexie's mom. I put myself in Alexie's shoes and everything that mom said is exactly what I would've expected my mom to say. I can tell that the mom is VERY controlling and overbearing and that REALLY impacts the child (speaking from experience).
Same!!! I don't find what the mom said weird at all. I think in Alex' and her Mom's minds, the baby is just a thing at this point which is awful but not at all unbelievable
Alexi is an adult. No matter how the mom would have reacted, the mom shouldn't have control over her and alexi could just move out. She's 100% responsible
@@aliasabri6775While I agree she is responsible for what she did, having a controlling and possibly emotionally abusive parent is very damaging to one's mental health and thinking. Especially when it's your mother who's feeding you with negative and controlling thoughts, you become paranoid and scared for things that could happen if the parent finds out something as serious as you being pregnant. I can see from her point of view why she would react in a negative way, and I'm definitely not giving her a get out of jail free card, but it's not just as simple as moving out or just "being an adult" as well as "she shouldn't have control over her", that's just not how having a controlling and manipulative parent works.
@@aliasabri6775coming from not a great household, that’s not true. They typically make you feel isolated and like no one would actually help you in their time of need. They also will have financial control over you as well so you can’t save and it’s just not so cut and dry sadly. I can’t say that I would have wrapped the baby in the trash bag, but I might have left it on top and made mention that there was something strange in the trash, but I have also been in places of dissociation and don’t have full control over what I do… the situation for sure is more complex. There’s no excuse for killing a child. But it’s important to find out the how and why
This is every indian mom. Though such a case has negligible chances to occur in india.
“You feel like you’ve been in the bathroom for long but it’s never 20 minutes” everyone with IBS side eyeing that statement 😭
the hospital staff was probably so heartbroken to hear they were accused of malpractice. they did everything they could to help that baby. her bad acting makes me beyond angry.
Are you mental rn? The staff did not once stop to think that a patient that refuses touch and is hovered over by her mother, shouldn’t be told in front of that mother that she is pregnant, while already in pain. (She was there for excruciating pain, they find out she is pregnant…. But decide to wait around for a second test to start treating her, but spill the tea already, then let’s leave them alone)
@@Philemaphobiaso you believe the hospital staff is at fault?
True. Its all her fault and mothers, 100%. Although. ANY time Ive EVER been to ER for anything, 1st thing they do is pregnancy test, even at 50yrs old. Why they didn't do this for a 19yr old is beyond me. NINETEEN! Not 12, not 13. 19!! For them to think theres no way she could be pregnant, was negligent. They should've immediately done a pregnancy test, especially with the way she was acting, the types of pain she was having
I think there are more people at fault than just the girl and her mother, yes. A lot more actually in the end.
Girl clearly did not trust her mother at all and was caught in a denial spiral…. I think hospital staff should have separated them as soon as the first preg test came out positive. She wasn’t a minor, discussing medical matters in front of her mother (possibly with forced ‚consent‘) could even be seen as a HIPPA violation (god I hope it’s written that way) @@angelvenegas483
!!!!!!!!!
Hospital workers are absolute hero’s. My heart broke when the Dr. Pointed to the trauma room such a good, quick response 💔
how alexie felt that she had to MURDER her own child instead of telling her mum the truth? someone needs to give a reality check to the mother.
The mom was strict so if she told her she would get murdered herself
@@Periodpoooo Seems like you're inventing story about the mother
When I got pregnant I was so afraid of my mom I was honestly considering suicide. Y’all don’t understand this is 100% Alexis MOTHERS fault . I know a toxic Hispanic mother when I see one and that lady had her daughter walking around her on egg shells
I don’t entirely agree. While yes Alexis Mother only made the situation worse with her reaction to the possibility of her daughter being pregnant, and her reaction to Alexis being confronted. Her mother is most definitely partially at fault. But it was ultimately Alexis decision to throw away her own child. I understand that it was extremely hard for Alexis to reach out for support, but absolutely nothing justifies throwing a child away to die of suffocation. It was ultimately Alexis and her mother’s fault.
what happened to this girl is crazy but, in this state of mind you're willing to do anything. i'm not comfortable giving away too much information but my mom is also a scary bitch and i couldnt tell her. so many things were going on. i am lucky enough i got the support i needed from my boyfriend. but many may not have, in the case of Alexi and many many other women. us girls should not have to suffer like this. it's normal, its natural. it can happen to anyone. and theres nothing wrong with that. its just sad that we've been cursed by the judgements of this society to the point of considering suicide or dumping the newborn which is crazy but really not that crazy when u think abt it. i hope you're doing well 💕
@@bellgomez5634 excuse me? I dont think you understand therefore u are in no position to judge.
This young woman knew exactly what she was doing. She 100% knew she was pregnant, and even bragged to her friends about naming the baby Alex. She continued cheerleading, knowing how huge her belly appeared with her tight uniform. Her mother also knew she was pregnant. She knew when she went to the hospital that her pain was because she was in labor!! And giving birth scared her, or being a mom at 19 scared her. She had that baby in the bathroom, and the baby was alive. She tears the umbilical cord apart, and proceeds to literally wrap the baby in plastic trash bags, put him in the trash can, and even covered him with other trash. She placed him in the bottom of the trash can TO HIDE HIM. The plastic was suctioned to his face becauee of his attempts to draw in breath, but could only breath plastic!! Who knows... she could have bitten that umbilical cord to rip it apart. His autopsy officially lists "entrapment" as the cause of death, due to being alive when born but placed in the plastic bag... And the autopsy DID list it as a homicide. He had enough oxygen found in his lungs to open them up, hence proof of live birth (breathing after born). She knowingly and willingly MURDERED HER CHILD.
Sounds like post partum depression/psychosis
@@someone2447post partum depression doesn't work like that.
@@someone2447 yon don't get postpartum depression OR psychosis as soon as you give birth.
@@LexMeRep post partum defines as, after birth was given. If she gave birth, she can instantly fall into a psychosis. This has happened to other women before, which is why there are multiple nurses in the room to assist and the baby, in many cases, is taken away until the mother is ready to see it.
@@maryirish8382 You actually can. Even in the wild some animals kill their babies as soon as they give birth.
I pray the New Mexico court system doesn’t fail this baby boy. Alexee and her mom knew ..THEY KNEW SHE WAS PREGNANT. The fact that the mom is suing the hospital and police dept is beyond insane!! She murdered that baby and showed no remorse after. Smh
Soooo disgusting that they are suing the hospital. Unbelievable.
That is the stupidest move anyone must've thought of. Doesn't matter, though. They've lost in the public view.
FINALLY SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP LIKE LITERALLY HER SCHOOL, HOMETOWN, FRIENDS ETC KNEW & ACTED LIKE THIS SHIT WAS NEW THEN AFTER THIS INCIDENT SHE WENT TO PROM WITH HER BABYDADDY AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED
The justice system here in New Mexico let’s people off easy it’s notorious here lmao
Even though it’s a high profile case she’s probably getting a light sentence if she has a decent lawyer
This little girl has been consistently traumatized, control yourself.
This is so devastating. I hope we get an update after the trial. Thank you, Stephanie for talking about this case.
How do we know it’s gonna be a trial, University students don’t get Trials they get Plea deals because Universities love Narcissist.
After? Let it start at least
I think she'll take a plea. So far, they're acting like idiots. They're even suing the hospital. 🤦♀But I have a feeling that reality will hit them and they'll realize that a plea deal is the best way to go. (Assuming they're even offered one.) She's facing first degree murder charges! These people are so stupid. They don't seem to understand how serious this is.
@@Deenique16 Right? It's not even starting until October. (If it doesn't get delayed.) This will take awhile. I hate that she's out on bail. With a first degree murder charge? She's probably out celebrating summer with her friends like nothing happened. She should be sitting in a cell!
I'm somewhat torn with this case. As someone who definitely didn't look pregnant with either pregnancy (hell, my 8th month when my daughter was born, I only weighed 100lbs) and as someone who was pregnant at 19 and kept it secret up until I miscarried at month 6 before my mom found out and proceeded to chase me around the house calling me a murderer, liar, slut, and a bunch of other not very nice things in front of my then bf, I understand her panic in that moment. As I had done, she likely convinced herself that she wasn't pregnant or if she was, she may miscarry or have time to abort until it was too late. To have to face your mother who may, and in my case did, shame you or be so furious with you that they abandon you is a huge motivation for some young women to hide their pregnancies and when the inevitable time comes for birth, they absolutely panic and go in to self preservation mode. There is no bonding. You tell yourself "I'll probably miscarry or get an abortion, I have time" or "I'm not actually pregnant. It was just a false positive" and because of that, you form zero bond with the thing in you. Luckily, I never made it past 6 months with my first pregnancy, so never ended up having the twins. After everything from shock to fear wore off, the depression hit hard and I found myself wishing I had seen a doctor or done what I was supposed to do, and I'm sure she feels the same now that it's finally hit her. With my daughter, I was very fortunate to have an amazing husband and dad by my side and some awesome doctors and obgyns ❤ I didn't let my mother anywhere near me while pregnant. It's unfortunate this girl felt so much pressure, anxiety, and guilt. That baby would have likely never been murdered in that case. Now, I want to add that my empathy ends prior to her trashing the alive baby. That baby didn't deserve that and to wrap him so tight that his little lungs can't inflate is cruel and evil. I get the panic beforehand, but even I wouldn't have murdered my child who was alive and breathing at birth. At some point, you have to face the music. Whether it's deserved or not, kind, just, or hurtful, you still have to face your poor decisions and the consequences. Maybe her mom would have called her a bitch and a whore like mine did, but at the end of the days, it's better than murdering a newborn.
Pls add the necessary context, even states that allow late term abortion they would NEVER be performed on a healthy fetus. They are ONLY performed under very specific circumstances when the child is 100% nonviable. Medical insurance doesn't cover the procedure so it's usually over $10k because they have to go through full labor and delivery. Pls don't demonize these women
I have gobbled up this story from every source available and yours has been the absolute most informative and accurate I’ve heard. Im a nurse and can clearly picture everything you explain. You’re great at explaining. ❤
Her mother and her mother's reality is all this poor girl ever knew. I honestly believe she reacted out of fear and possibly even thought she was in danger of loosing a roof over her head and no where to go.
My mother always used to tell my sister and I that we better never end up pregnant cause we'll have no place to go. Some parents I still so much fear in their children they don't know how to live on their own or deal with real life issues.
I had a friend in middle school who’s mom told her exactly that, luckily my mom did the opposite. She always told my sister and I that if we got pregnant she would take care of us but of course taught us why and how to prevent that happening until we’re ready. She went so far as to tell our friends the same and they all view her as a second mom to this day. I do think Rosa is at least partially at fault here, clearly Alexi was terrified of her. Imagine being so scared of your mom you would literally murder your own baby…
I feel like she wasn’t scared of being out her house but she’s scared of not being her daughters child anymore. Her mom is def a tiger mom, she’s 19 years old why is she doing everything for her still. That’s why Alexee plays dumb because her mom will deal with it
I'm sorry but I think it's also, the girls fault. she was in a facility where she could drop off the baby, ask to be anonymous and not tell anyone about it and explain her situation if she was desperate enough to KILL her own child. yeah she's a murderer. now she's 19 years old, has internet, and im sure she knew about this aswell. she's just a murderer who took the life of a child before it even..lived a day. INTENTIONALLY. she did not have to give the child long and painful death of suffocation, she knew what she was doing. sure this, what you're saying might be the best explanation as to what happened but that doesn't...excuse what she did.
I have no sympathy for her what so ever, have sympathy for the baby boy she murdered.
@@lukeiamyourfather666 I am sorry... your all so disgusting to think that a teen knows how to rationally deal with all this happening to her, it must have been traumatic and I wish you could have walked in her shoes and then we will see if you would still be saying this shit.
I worked in the ER and I can’t tell you how many times a teenager comes in with their parents for severe back pain only to give birth few minutes later.
I think people should stop asking if they are pregnant, just say “you are pregnant “
@@drama2u no one cares
Update on the girl:
Charges have been dropped and she will not be getting charged with anything I also remember when she tried to start college they did a petition for her not to go to that college
omg are you serious right now? she killed a baby and she won't get charged? i hate this world so much
I am not blaming the hospital staff at all but I do believe that doctors and nurses should be taught to ask the parents to leave the room when asking about uncomfortable topics such as pregnancy
Agreed. When I was a teenager even though I wasn't sexually active, any time theyd run a pregnancy test (which, honestly at times feels like a waste of time) my grandma would go on this long rant about how she'd beat my ass if I was pregnant and how I should be above that behavior. She and my mom had babies as teens before marriage and I guess she just wanted better for me, but it didn’t make stressful situations better.
Tell that to the parents. They are the ones upset
We are-have family step out for privacy all the time! But it’s difficult to do that when the patient killed a baby in the bathroom before they had that chance.
They’d gotten the +hcg test but they had no idea she was FULL TERM and IN LABOR…. As far as they knew she was in her 1st or 2nd trimester, so I’m sure in their mind they had time to get the mother out and discuss the situation.
@@LlamaLlamaMamaJamaacthey still told the girl she was pregnant in front of her mother iirc. Or that the test came back positive. Obviously the fault isn’t on the hospital for the murder they were all just doing their jobs. But I imagine it could have ended differently since the red flags were already there and they had discussed asking her to step out before. Personally I think if you have to guess and a parent is acting like that AND the patient isn’t being honest about being pregnant and won’t let doctors touch her that’s more than enough justification to ask the mom to step out even before the blood test came back since they already told them about the urine test. While alexees actions are her own, she was still a scared young woman who could have had more help before it tipped into irreversible territory. Her fear doesn’t justify murder but it’s just sad and I’m sure the staff probably has regret in hindsight.
I work for a clinic connected to a hospital. We have a portal patients can use, and parents actually lose access to everything except super basic stuff once they hit like 11 or 12, to help protect their privacy. Also when I was a kid, they asked my mom to leave on regular checkups while asking the "is there any chance you could be-" questions, even if I wanted her to stay, just to guarantee that I felt comfortable answering honestly. And that was the '90s. The staff definitely didn't do as much as they could to separate potentially abusive parent from child, but in the end, she made her decision, and has to pay the price.
Love when Stephanie covers these serious cases and news
Fr she does such a good job❤
Same no one does a better job at it than Steph!
right? she somehow manages to make the worst cases seem bearable to listen to. she calms my nerves down. i love her.
@@leesungcorethat’s exactly it!❤
i so agree!🫶
I’m literally tearing up upon hearing the horrific state how the poor little baby was found. I’m appalled beyond words. He suffered way too much. Too much.
Mom suffered too. Just saying. It should have been handled differently.
@@hannahkirkland1301 not as much as the baby
@@hannahkirkland1301how😑
@@hannahkirkland1301how is she suffering she got caught after murdering her child theres choices she was 19 she almost 20 only reason she suffers is she got caught im over this damn poor lexi argument
@@hannahkirkland1301are you talking about Alexi's mom? Or are you talking about alexi? I hope you're not talking about alexi. She could have given the baby up for adoption or something. THE BABY SUFFERED MORE THAN ANYONE.
Since I gave birth to my son a year ago, I have had these EXTREMELY STRONG caring and protective maternal instincts that kicked in as soon as I felt my baby come out of me and still aren't lowering down. After seeing this case I am SO SHOCKED that even I started feeling some maternalistic protective feelings for the baby boy and his own mother did not felt A THING!!!!! World is literally messed up man!
I cant imagine how hard and awfull it must have been to find the child. Im so sorry for the baby and the staff.
The trama that they all had to experience is absolutely saddening...
I am a nurse and I work in trauma surgery. I cried watching this episode. First of all, thank you for acknowledging that medical staff are also human who oftentimes, put up a strong front in ordee to carry on with our job. Is not an easy job, and I can only imagine how difficult it must have been for the medical staff involved in this crime. Because this is what this is, a crime. This young woman has no excuse for what she did. She’s the only one at fault. Yeah you can blame the staff for not discussing her pregnancy results right away, but they checked on her several times while she was murdering that defenseless baby. I pray and hope justice is served.
I'll start by saying I've never been pregnant or in this girl's situation, but I have been in similar ones. My mother is controlling to put it mildly and that persists even now when I've instilled very clear and strict boundaries and separated myself from her. At 19 I would have had no chance of being treated or even considered an adult. I started having serious health issues at 22 and even then, my mother inserted herself into every situation. She insisted on being in the room for every appointment, had a say in decisions about treatments, and refused possibilities when she had no right to. When you've been raised in that environment, with a highly controlling parent, you don't have the tools to say "please remove my mother from the room, I am an adult and I don't want her here" or veto their decisions. You don't have the tools to go against what they say or think for yourself as an adult. You aren't capable of asserting yourself like that because that kind of individualism is squashed at every opportunity.
I know it sounds weird. She was an adult and could, reasonably, act on her own. But it's very different with parents like this and you don't fully understand that mindset if you haven't experienced it. In that situation, you don't have the option to speak against that parent, have them removed from the situation, act against them, or even contradict them. It doesn't even occur to you that that's an option. What that girl did wasn't okay and I'm not saying she had no fault in this situation. But I do think her mother's influence had a lot more to do with this than most people realize.
there were a lot who also said this but it is worth saying it again. She was more afraid of her mother than being a criminal...
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i agree to an extent because my mothers been the same way and shes yet to stop, shes also abusive so saying no or asking for her to leave when i was hospitalized would end up with me getting bruised BUT she was alone with the doctors in the hallway and when she was in the bathroom but not once did she quietly pull them to the side out of view of her room to tell them. she had the chance to tell them when her mother wasnt present nor could she be heard by her mother from the bathroom or the hallway + she couldve told them to stay quiet and not tell her mother. i do think her mother has a lot of influence over her daughter and it definitely may have influenced her behavior that night but she was entirely responsible for her decisions that night. for me personally at least, when my mothers being abusive or im scared of her in a situation where she has full control over me, im in full survival mode looking for even the slightest chance to get away. she had that chance at least twice from what we know and she did not take it. she couldve also asked a staff and said something like "can you come in i need a tampon dont tell my mom" to lure them in and tell them but she did not. i do understand ur perspective however, i just think the girl had multiple opportunities to evade her controlling mother while still telling staff about the baby.
that was long sorry 😅
I think her mom is the main reason that she did this, but she still went too far to alleviate her of any responsibilities
@@inimmz I absolutely agree with what you're saying. Reasonably she had all the opportunities to make the right choice. It's just, when your parents aren't being outright abusive there's this mind game that's got control of you. Their manipulation runs so deep that it's very difficult to question it or go against it. If they're never outright abusive, then there's very little to make you go "hold up this isn't right." I can only speak from personal experience but it's really difficult to break out of that mental hold they've got on you if there isn't anything to trigger that survival instinct. It takes years of separation and outright therapy to get out of it and even then it's a 50/50. It's like they convince you down to your core that their opinions and beliefs are the only ones that matter. If her mother is a narcissist like so many of us assume, she didn't raise her daughter to be an individual. They raise us like extensions of themselves. We are not unique people with our own personalities and desires. We are theirs and stepping beyond that is seen as betrayal. This is pure speculation on my part, and again, I don't want this to detract from her personal responsibility or anyone else's theories and experiences. This stuff is too complex for us to really know. I just feel really sorry for her because I see a lot of my personal history reflected in her and her mother's actions.
Sorry, I also went way too long
Alexei gives "me me me" teen girl vibes and mom gives "what will the neighbors think!" Energy. They bf and his mom just have an air of "pfft, not me/my kid, not my problem. Whatevs" and step dad seems like a cinnamon roll who needs to divorce mom
Stepdad needs to step out. He is the only one with humanity in that family
Recently in my country, a woman with very severe postpartum psychosis & depression killed her two toddlers and then attempted suicide, tried to jump off her apartment balcony but she survived and her husband found her. This same woman had gone multiple times to medics and asked to be institutionalised and under surveillance cuz she felt like she would harm her children and the hospitals and doctors let her down.
She literally begged them to keep her in the hospital cause of how fearful she was of doing anything to her babies.
This poor woman will not only be criminalised and jailed but worst of all, live with the guilt and pain of killing her babies, for something that wasnt her fault and was out of her control.
That being said I dont think Alexee had postpartum depression for a single second.
I think the woman in your story sounds more like she developed postpartum psychosis which is much much worse. I could *maybe* believe Alexie had pre and postpartum disorders but she seems much more like a girl that was terrified of being a mother leading to all this.
good. that woman should be in jail. alexee was on morphine and not in her right mind, does that mean she should not be punished?
@@sparrow.6392severe post partum depression is essential saying the same as psychosis. It occurs because of sever depressive or other mental disorders.
I really hope the woman in your story will be able to not be criminalized in the future.
Idk how it all works but I imagine it with some legal stuff to clear her name.
That's eerily similar to the Lindsay Clancy case here in the U.S. I am so sorry for that woman and her family's loss.
I’ve honestly been skipping and scrolling past this story because my heart can’t take knowing a little baby was harm ! But now that Steph is doing the story here I am .
Same. Stephanie is so respectful in the rotten mango cases
@@wigglyennuiI like that about her too!
Exactly, I am feeling very anxious while watching this video and am pausing the video from time to time to catch a breath
"She didn't look pregnant." She absolutely did!! Have you seen her cheerleading pics? Also, from the reports I've seen, they did inform her that she was pregnant after the urinalysis, and that's when she insisted she was a virgin. But between taking a blood sample and receiving that result, she gave birth and murdered her newborn in the bathroom.
Someone should have sent the mother some of the cheerleading pic's 3weeks before the birth. I'm sure Alexis wore very baggy clothes and hid away in her room.
@@barrettlori9249but even then that is very suspicious behavior for your kid to start shifting in habits
At the hospital she was wearing baggy clothes, and remember she wouldn't allow them to touch her.
She’s talking about when she first appeared at the hospital. As the other person said, Alexee was wearing baggy clothes that hid her belly
That girl went into the bathroom gave birth while there were nurses outside asking if shes okay. She had multiple chances to speak up and ask for help. And the malpractice claim…. She didn’t let the doctor touch her!!!! That mother is a horrible person for egging on her daughter and that girl is a murderer. Period point blank.
Shout out to hospital staff and police for caring more about that baby than his biological family
Also her trial is supposed to start in August of 2024 for anyone looking for any updates. They're hard to find for some reason.
Oh thank you very much!
It's probably because of her mother.
She was sentenced to 16 years in prison
@@miguelonate1805where is this from? So she’s sitting in prison rn?
Even if they’ve been in the field for many years, I don’t think anyone working that night involved with the visit and case was completely unaffected by everything. Seeing so many professionals fighting back rage and tears to keep composure is extremely admirable
Crazy thing is that this was so close to me that we found out that she actually was ALLOWED. To walk at her graduation even though they were on going in the trial. She was I think convicted of murder and I think reckless endangerment. I live 30 minutes away from this whole thing.
As a hospital housekeeper, I can't even imagine what I would do if I was in Lila’s shoes. I've seen some weird and kind of scary stuff working at the hospital, but nothing even close to that! I hope she's seeing someone about what she saw that night, because that's something that would scar anyone for life.
I have done the same job and I can't help but empathize with that poor woman also.
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Agreed. Also the fact that she had the sense to check is the reason the baby was found. PS. Have also worked EVS in the past, and have seen some seriously crazy things.
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We live in a world where we're a kid fears their parents more than being honest. I can't imagine that. It's so shameful because parents leave their kids feeling helpless and insecure about opening up to them about harsh things like this because of the consequences they'll put on them. Instead, you got teens that do things like this. Parents seriously need to be more supportive of their own flesh and blood instead of making them feel like if they screw up once, they get chewed out and spit right back out over and over again
You’re so right. I think it’s also related to the lack of sex Ed in the US and how we shame sexual behavior. Teenagers have sex. They just do and if this girls got her birth control this never would’ve happened.
I think a big part of the issue is parents have a major tendency to forget that they were also rebellious teens at one point. They were also drinking underage, being s3xually active, smoking pot and cigarettes you name it. Either that or they know they were that way and will go to extremes to avoid it with their own teen. But that’s just how teenagers behave. I’ll forever be thankful my mom understood teens will be teens and gave me access to a bc prescription and a safe place to consume substances (while not supporting my use).
I have the same relationship with my mom - expected to do what is told of me and succeed in my path and scared to mess up especially involving pregnancy. The mom responded the exact same way my mom would have , understandably upset but wishing I would have told her before hand . The baby could have been saved and loved - but FEAR runs deep
Yes I hate how people are blaming the girl when it's mostly the mother's fault
Yes I hate how people are blaming the girl when it is mostly the mother's fault
@@SawyerH-hb7knIt’s Not mostly the mothers fault. The girl is 19!! She knew what she did was wrong, the entire time she ran while suffocating and having that baby boy get murdered, she could’ve handed him off- quickly explained, and ran BACK!! Or even leave him in the restroom on the ground without a bag to suffocate him..Alexi is at fault!! The mother had a part too!! But alexi is mainly at fault! And I am speaking as someone who is living in fear of a parent every day!!
@@slowedvxbesaudios8378 You can tell that the way the daughter was raised was wrong. She was obviously raised with a toxic non trusting relationship that was led with fear. So she did not trust her mom like a daughter should and was scared because she probably still lives with her mother.
@@SawyerH-hb7kn I absolutely agree, I also believe that just because you had a rough upbringing- doesn’t give you a pass to do what she did. Yes, she may have panicked..however at the end of the day she still chose to do what she did, fear or not. And ultimately HER choices murdered that baby boy.