Orochimaru vs Sasori & Deidara - The Real Winner?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2022
- I figured this would be a good topic to cover considering how heavily implied it was to happen in the original series. Also Sasori & Deidara being an akatsuki duo it seemed right to have them fight together like they did in the filler I mentioned during the intro.
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3 eyed madara and sasuke vs Naruto and hashi . War arc sixpath amps
How strong are Part 1 Final Valley Naruto & Sasuke compared to everyone else in part 1
for a easy win sasuke occupies Naruto while madara one shots hashi and he casts infinite tsukuyomi while sasuke hides in his susanoo
Momoshiki vs kaguya
@@juggsasuke literally what are you on about… like… how…. How did you come to such a conclusion… why is this comment making me angry in real life 🤣
Kakuzu wins through raw durability alone.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW 💦 😩
Naw jiraiya wins if he knows there secrets
@@TTD97 you make me sick
Yeah he can easily take out pain.
Fuc raw durability.that shit so hax like bruh
Each of these guys killed a kazekage. Wild lol
We need third kazekage,rasa,and war arc gaara vs them for payback for the kazekage
I think people forget that with Deidara vs Gaara, Deidera had to resort to attacking the village to exhaust and distract Gaara. Had Gaara not been protecting the village, the fight would end very differently. He was never in any danger at all until he had to protect the village while Deidera was constantly having to evade. With that, I think Deidara often gets a bit too high balled in his scaling.
Bro, each and every time.
People use Gaara dying to say “Diedra > Kage Gaara”
And it’s like, NO. Whenever Gaara wasn’t busy protecting, he countered and attacked effectively. If he could remove one of Diedra’s arms, a true 1v1 would be way closer.
Though, deidara also said "this would have been way easier if I could kill him"
So deidara also had things holding him back
@@grantwilliams93 ya. And don’t get me wrong, Deidara is obviously no slouch. But from a scaling point of view, I do think that fight is a bit of an inconsistency.
@@grantwilliams93 For sure. Those nano bombs should honestly solo the majority of Naruto. 💀
Remember though that Gaara had sand advantage , but as far as speed he isn't behind Deidara.
It’s a shame he was basically NERFED for the entirety of the the series!!
But the show would've ended after the invasion of Konoha if he wasn't nerfed
Is it possible to learn this power
@@Picmanreborn yup because if he wasn't nerfed and sick, he would've EASILLY stole Sasuke's body, implanted Hashirama's cells and boom unlocked the Rinnegan naturally (the whole REASON he wanted the body of a powerfull Uchiha was because of the Rinnegan, he already knew how to get it since Madara got it)
If he had the Rinnegan, yeah GG to the Naruto verse.
Nerfed for most of the series and still washed pretty much every opponent he encountered except for Itachi and Hiruzen. (I don't really count the Sasuke absorbing him thing.
@@joaquincasascortes624 wishful thinking. This is the same character that hardly fully commits to any one goal. There's a laundry list of tasks he couldn't compete because he believed he was such a hotshot. I won't allow anyone to blame the plot. Orochimaru is one dumb, mustache twirling twit who should honestly be a rotting corpse.
We can’t forget this man was basically in every curse mark and dead-ass jumped out of Sasuke when he was taxed on chakra like how we meme him in boruto, so even when he loses he wins
This was amazing! Love matchups like these where the opponents are on a relative level of power, and they have to be judged by how their abilities matchup against each others. Also please make more videos about Orochimaru.
Agreed. I love all three of these villains. Kishimoto did a great job pumping Sasuke up without diminishing the power of either Orochimaru or Deidera.
I would love to see any versus matches involving the Konoha 11
Deidara got hoed
@@rais6036 That fight was sick, and both fought hard.
If we’re being real, yeah, should’ve ended in a draw.
That manda feat was horse shit.
@@rais6036 nah Deidara did good even tho Sasuke had the elemental advantage at least was respected more than Kakazu who got one of his strongest abilities neg by Kakashi literally in seconds before the fight
@@gameuniverse5973 yeah Kakuzu got hoed out 😭😂 Deidara and Sasori could at least play the "we got matched up against the literal only people who could beat us at the time" argument. Kakuzu was hyped up to be a member of the immortal duo and was kinda getting styled on my REGULAR SHARINGAN Kakashi
@@rais6036 deidara more than got hoed lol he ain’t beating orochimaru even with sasori lol bro got clapped by sasuke who ain’t even close to sanin level
Imagine if Orochimaru learned the seal Sakura and Tsunade use before Shippuden to make up for the loss of his arms.
Nah since his armes are sealed even the 100 healings wont bring them back
@@GearsUpDownUp yep, his arms aren’t just normally damaged, there’s some ninja magic shenanigans involved.
@@SpiralSine6 Neosporin fixes. No diff
@@SpiralSine6 oh and maybe add a bandaid to the pile
While the healing Jutsu would restore Orochimaru's arms, the chakra/life energy is still gone. Like his soul itself has no arms, and for all intents and pourpose, neither does his physical body. So after his arms are healed, they would just start to slowly decompose again.
Current Oruchimaru is just Thanos snapping outer Kara's out of existence and easily defeating inners while messing around and laughing while they go all out. He takes this low diff
He's not comparing Boruto Orochimaru, but yeah you're right tho.
the he says that it will be hard to put him on a higher level even tho he has gained immortality, instant regeneration, hashirama cells, access to sharingan, access to sage mode, his swords skills are the ones who paved the way for Sasuke, arguably the most intelligent character in Boruto verse and he is a real OG
@@reinaldorodriguez1013 indeed!
Ayo Six thanks man for releasing videos weekly. Appreciate it man
Great video , gotta like the Sannin getting some respect
Been saying this for years. They wasted Orochimaru. He would’ve been a great final villain character before Madara. Instead we got Kabuto.
Final villain in Boruto probably
Shippuden was ruined when they did the war arc. Show stops for me after naruto defeats pain. It just got way to dumb
I think the results are about right, but I think you lowballed Orochimaru without his arms.
He's only stated to be weaker than Manda while his body is rejecting him in the sannin showdown in part 1. Post getting his new body in Sasuke retrieval arc, he's definitely above Manda again, and more so back on normal sannin level given he performs decently against 4 tails teen Naruto, arguably much better than Jiraiya did against 4 tails kid Naruto.
And I'd definitely say 4 tails v2 Naruto is Biju level. Infact I'd say it's atleast 4 tails biju level... Given Kcm Naruto repelled 5 tailed beast bombs.
Fax
Of course he was exhausted and had to stop vs Naruto while Tenzo was stopping the transformation during that time (he basically kept regenerating by throwing himself up repeatedly). I think Jiraiya gets lowballed due to his performance vs the 4 tails but he was probably trying to not kill Naruto and so couldn't just attack him recklessly
@@1001011011010 i mean, Jiraya could have won if he keeped his distance, but oro could have won too.
@@1001011011010 jiraiya is equal to or weaker than orochimaru in his own words.
@@daymianhogue1634 I agree but people try to downplay him because of the 4 tails thing, it feels like.
You know your shit my boy. Great video 👍🏿
Thank you so much for making an Orochimaru vs
Video on a completely un-nerfed Orochimaru. Similar to the ones for Itachi
Itachi vs the 5 kage - The real winner? Would be great. I know you did something similar with Seth, but seeing how he would match up with all of them at the same time would be cool
I’m almost certain that subject has been done before. I’d guess it was Swagkage
I think itachi is more of a 1v1 god. The kage know about most of his jutsu. I think he’ll rely on Susano too much, and the kage still have ways of breaking it.
Itachi gets low diffed
@@unclephillymya low? Mid diff. Best believe he taking at least 1 kage out. Mei most likely. He may even take out the Raikage also.
I love Itachi, but against the 5 kage that fought Madara, Itachi gets absolutely bopped. He may get one, MAYBE 2 out, but he still definitively takes the L.
Great video
oh shoot he being consistent consistent
So we're not gonna mentioned Chiyo was using her Chakra Strings to manipulate Sakura from getting touched in the first half of the fight giving her time to see how Sasori fights.
Not to mention Tsunade's skin let alone body is nowhere near durable enough to Enma in his Adamantium form. So the Kusanagi sword cutting her isn't impressive at all, in fact it's just normal.
In addition to the Bringer of Darkness Genjutsu though stated to be trouble by Hiruzen due to the lack of sight and hearing he still easily found both the Edo's in this fairly fast. And I would like to know if Deidara's Eye he keeps hidden to be trained in seeing through Genjutsu would be able to see through The Bringer of Darkness as well. Or the fact that Hashirama in full control Edo could break out from Orochimaru's control
Even if you don’t use it cutting her, it still cut the staff 💀tho I’m only 8 minutes in the video
@@DieHard1912 that's what I'm saying tho. If he would've left it at Enma then yes completely impressive but to say that it cut Tsunade's body as well was completely pointless. That same sword cut through Hiruzen as well. If we're gonna talk like that we might as well say if anything the sword has proven it can cut old people bcus Enma is old as well.
@@kaimobley5324 it still doesn’t invalidate the feat, Enma was also cut by the blade👁👁 when he grabbed it, he was simply referring to the jutsu enma uses to become that durable. Also it hitting the 5th was referring to orochimaru speed, the 5th is supposed to be hard to hit but hits hard, only time this becomes false, is when she uses her jutsu. When she can ignore the rules of her combat style. Overall
@@DieHard1912 I'm not saying it invalidates it but it was a pointless thing to say. Who says "oh this sword can cut someone as strong as diamond" but in the next sentence say "the same sword was able to cut a stick that fell off a tree"....why would you say that or even bring it up
Just because you mentioned it as part of the narrative setup. How much would Kabuto being present change things? I know he doesn't scale to either of them pre Orochimaru's cells, but he does open doors that Orochimaru can't by himself, like summoning Manda. Just curious.
Kabuto would probably be helpful summoning Manda and being able too heal orochimaru
That was only when he didn't have use of his arms. Since he switched bodies and was revived by Sasuke he had use of them but it still hurt him until he released his arms from the belly of the grim reaper.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago Yeah, but Six skipped that version, because he's featless. He actually used his sealed arms form, and concluded that he was beneath Deidara and Sasori by himself. I just was curious if he thought Kabuto being present could push them over the two Akatsuki. Or at least one of them, since he seemed to put sealed Orochimaru a whole tier below them. And pre sage Kabuto is mid-elite Jonin.
@@jarrodkent716 He actually isn't. He fought 4 tails Naruto at Kannibi Bridge. He only had to obfuscate from the battle because Naruto gave him so much damage it decreased the remaining time left orochimaru had in that body.
But I think it's unlikely, as Kabuto was never stated or shown to know what kind of poison sasori uses, so it's unlikely he had an antidote to counter his poison. Maybe he could bloodlet himself and heal the wound when enough blood is released but I doubt that'd work against a poison that acted that quickly. Kabuto is a good infiltrator but not front line fighter until he got Sage mode.
Always love a video with Sasori
Cool vid bro.😺
What if you took chunin exams Orochimaru but banned edo tensei? We might actually have a pretty close fight there. I'm really not sure who would win in that scenario.
That orochimaru i think is weaker he has a old body that he then switches too another for the hiruzen fight
@@gameuniverse5973 good point
Orochimaru would kill the guy that tries to ban his edo tensei and use edo tensei anyway. On his corpse
@@carmagadon11savage
I know like you said you don't care to scale orochimaru from the boruto era against deidara and sasori. I just wanted to see if this sparks your interest in any way shape or form, but orochimaru in boruto has shown to have basically instant regeneration being capable of fully regrowing limbs, very exceptional in kenjutsu and taijutsu seen in his fight against Log, and shown to have wind release powerful enough to cut of limbs, and have poisoners snakes of all various sizes capable enough to parallelized people.
then he'd slap them badly lmfao
@@sixfromtokyo I think he actually no diff vaporized a Kara member with wind style, but it might've just been anime filler I don't remember seeing it in the manga
@@Picmanreborn the Boruto Anime is canon
@@Picmanreborn He killed that thot in 0.02 seconds. I think Orochimaru was aware that she was a walking filler.
Orochimaru has definitely gotten a better body since that fight he can make sage clones now and we know his body improves his strength
🔥🔥🔥 YESSSSSS. I can feel the ramen packs from noodles camps getting HOT😭😂🙆♂️💯✌
I'd really like to do debates on your discord T-T, I have a moderate grasp on debating and power scaling but would like to get better
If you go off the data book orochimaru wins, but looking at their abilities I don’t see orochimaru beating them both. I take all these databook statements with a grain of salt.
No bro they can’t beat orochi 💀
@@RealBurritoTheMVP And why is that?
@@jirrellj because orochimaru is the strongest of the three sanin 💀 lmao deidara and sasori don’t stand a chance against his speed and attack strength
@@RealBurritoTheMVP Orochimaru best attribute I’ve seen is being able to take punishment. C4 puts him down tho… speed is pointless, both deidara and sasori have flight
@@jirrellj bro what? 😐 that makes no sense lol wasn’t deidara the same dude that lost to sasuke 🤡
Adult Chojuro vs Kisame with Samehada
Edit: Fight takes place outside of Turtle Island
Chojuro stomps.
Chojuro unironically stomps kisame
Do a ultimate “counter-less” shinobi jutsu/genjutsu build CAC type vid
Yo Six do u know if Konan's paper ability is a bloodline trait??
I have not watched the rest of the video yet but in 3:00 you say sakura strength is compared to tsunade now that might be true but the two examples you use that say that do not state that Sakura had the same level of strength only that she uses the same technique and kakashi saying she may end up surpassing tsunade which kinda contradicts your point of sakura being comparable in strength to tsunade all this does tho is make it kinda a downplay since if sakura is weaker than orichimaru stomps
I’m a big Deidara Stan, so I disagreed with what you said about him being weaker than Sasuke. However, I appreciate the good work. Thanks 6!
He is weaker than Sasuke. Sasuke dominated him throughout their battle without even fighting to kill, as he wanted information on Itachi.
heis much weaker than sasuke
the he says that it will be hard to put him on a higher level even tho he has gained immortality, instant regeneration, hashirama cells, access to sharingan, access to sage mode, his swords skills are the ones who paved the way for Sasuke, arguably the most intelligent character in Boruto verse and he is a real OG and he can pack a punch like he did to 4 tails Naruto while on his death bed
I hope he does the sound 4 especially thw twins and the flute girl who basically had puppet jutsu using music and the twins had some unique abilities too those her and the twins were some of the more unique characters in terms of abilities imagine there powers in more talented ninjas
Do Jirobo vs Preta path next
jirobo solos the verse
I feel like it's as simple as can they beat 4 tails naruto, or stalemate, which I don't think so
What's the OST at the 5 minute mark with the flutes?
Yo Six can u do scenario about curse mark 2 neji( The cursed seal of heaven) vs kiba with one tail cloak?
Neji would win i think unless kiba can stack the one tail cloak too the two headed dog then he one shots but does akamaru gets a one tail cloak as well
bruh orochimaru isnt stopping a C4.
Can you do Zabuza and Haku vs Akatsuki members? (I want to see how high up the gauntlet they go)
Don't think very far, Kisame ragdolls Zabuza and Haku is as fast as Sasuke and Naruto in their second fight and died to Chidori
@@Viroh Haku wanted to die, also Haku and Zabuza come back in the war arc and fight war arc Kakashi. I do agree that Kisame would ragdoll him, but I am just curious if they would get past the other members lower then Kisame
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh do we mean as a duo? Because by themselves, it's hard to say that either of them could stand any chance against even Hidan. I think Haku and Zabuza would put up a very good fight against Hidan, it would be the toughest bloodlusted battle of their lives, but at the end of the day, I'm not sure they'd be able to pull it off. If they (together) fought Hidan 10,000 times, Hidan takes it 60-40.
But that's where they stop at. Kakuzu? NO WAY. Sasori? No way. DEIDARA? No way. Kisame and Itachi? They would have to TRY to lose, and even Sasuke who was trying to kill Itachi on his deathbed struggled.
People say Zabuza is an S class criminal, but this is just false. He's an A class criminal (at best). The Akatsuki is like the NBA of shinobi. Only a select few shinobi even COULD be in the Akatsuki, and they just don't have the smarts, stamina, or power
Zabuza and Haku is literally kid Naruto and prt 1 Kakashi level😭
At best they stop at Base Kakazu
Edit:
They stop at Zetsu
@@TheEternalFlame57 Well if we talk in 2v1 I see it that they could beat Hidan and Konan and flytrapman, but the others have good abilities to fight multiple enemies at once, I can't see them winning Akatsuki members like Deidara or Sasori, let alone the higher ups
I had to choose between going to work on time or watching your video..... Orochimaru better be the winner
Orochimaru from The War And further versions stomps Them no cap.
Only weaker versions He could lose to them
Yeah
Something like that
Well duh he continues to scale up and those two are already long dead.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
@@willdiesel8431 beat dickwad
Can you do a pre EMS Sasuke versus Orochimaru with no sickness and no arm seals? My theory is Sasuke gets shit stomped 😂like, he's not hanging w someone who can swap hands w the 4 tailed kyuubi
Bro Sasuke would've got stomped by the Orochimaru that fought 4 tails Naruto
@@sixfromtokyo I KNOW! AND HE WAS NERFED 😂 But no one has made a video about it in all these years! It's heavily implied already by all the data, like Sasuke attacking when Orochimaru is the weakest, and being lucky enough to have a sharingan to counter Orochi's unorthodox genjutsu/poison, and you know, plot armor. I just want to see a video about it out of sheer stubbornness and because, I love Orochi andI hate that fan boy cuck Sasuke 😂
Amaterasu 1 shot
Sasori is so cool and I hate to admit it but yeah,non-nerfed Orochimaru would smash these too. Good to hear that atleast some form of Orochimaru loses :) A good video and analysis.
A non nerfed Orochimaru only scales that high to the Konoha denizens and even then it's Part 1. Sasori took down a village by controlling puppets and Deidara is reckless but smarter than he used to be.
Orochimaru would get blown to bits if he takes them as lightly as he did the 4tk.
Idk if you could describe losing an arm as effortlessly when he fought Gara lol
Six I was wondering what you meant by saying that the third Hokage is the strongest at that time. You didn’t that you think the third is stronger than Hashirama right? I probably just misunderstood what you said haha
He meant hiruzen strongest Kage not of all timie but the strongest while he lived
The strongest alive there
Shippuden was lucky the writers didn't give orochimaru a healthy body with sage mode. Current orochimaru surpass most shippuden characters except for kaguya, juubidara, naruto and sasuke
No. Not at all. Orochimaru is a pansy and would lose to 90% of the Akatsuki and he really can't cut it against other village's Kages.
You are a LIAR!!!
I think the main thing with sasori and sasuke is that sasori relies mostly on poisons and at least sratching you to poison you. But since sasuke absorbes oorochimaru isnt he immune to poison in general now?
Yes, well resistant to most of them
He isn't immune to poison as per Boruto canon.
I love your versus videos, but after 2 minutes of nothing happening I’m out.
I’ll definitely watch later, but if you could cut down your intros or make them somehow more interesting, I think you would see better viewer retention.
Didn’t mean to give unsolicited advice, I’m just selfishly wishing for the content to be easier to consume for myself.
Anyway, fan of your work, thank you fir the uploads.
I’d be down a for a random Naruto what if video it sounds cringe but six would do a good one man
What if Kakazu was able too kill Kakashi,what if Obito went back too get his second Ms from Kakashi,what if yahiko never died,what if Obito left with the kyuubi instead of unleashing it,what if Obito took over another Kage instead of yagura,and what if Naruto died at the end of part one and Sasuke gain his Ms
The Akatsuki is like 7 ppl who are all relative to orochimaru so what do you think the result of two ppl who are on orochimarus level jumping him is going to be ?
Did u just say the everyone in the akatsuki is relative to Orochimaru?😐
@@Rck-vert should have said after the top 3 and above hidan and zetsu lol
@Xay the wording is ass at the end but basically all I’m tryna say is almost all the Akatsuki are orochimaru level + so two of them foderize him
@Xay the wording is ass at the end but basically all I’m tryna say is almost all the Akatsuki are orochimaru level + so two of them foderize him
@@manny9191 I mean I did say 7 ppl so I don’t really know what the contention is in regards to what I said lol
Orochimarus true form could be due to trying to infuse his cells with snake sage Chakra instead being able to master it naturally like jiraiya or naruto.
Jiraiya never mastered sage mode
@@nathanmorgan3457 he was at least very adept at it
@@DBL6Domino No, orochimaru's true form came about as a result of his impure world reincarnation technique. It's not exactly stated how, but through shedding his humanity and switching forms so many times he slowly transitioned into his "true form" kinda like voldemort.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago Would've made absolute sense if the senjutsu Chakra turned him that way.
@@DBL6Domino It would've made more sense but at that point Orochimaru hadn't discovered the Snake Sage temples. It was heavily implied before his fight with Sasuke when Sasuke killed him that he had just discovered the place, Kabuto mentions it later on when he first shows himself to team 7 after absorbing the remnants of orochimaru. He says something along the lines of: "I'll go back to that place that he found, and finish what he was trying to accomplish." Or something like that.
SIX. can you do a Goku Vs Sailor moon PLEASE bro i need it in my life
Sailor moon beats Goku until post SSG god amp then you can only argue sailor moon wins with her higher level arguments and hax
Ty
Also an argument which I feel is overlooked; Orochimaru was having fun “playing “with four tail Naruto. I am 100% sure both Sasori and Deidara would have a difficult time with four tails Naruto…. And would most likely either retreat or die in the process.
Orochimaru was getting his face ripped half by Naruto. I don’t call that “having fun”
He also couldn’t immobile or kill 4 tails Naruto. So he was on the losing end
@@Rck-vert. Bruh, he was talking shit the whole time. Orochimaru is known for regenerating his body, so him getting his face ripped off is not a big deal.
@@davonbenson4361 id have 2 agree same way tsunade can cop a sword through the chest. they dont mind, they can just regen lol
Deidara alone would Blow 4tails into getting KOed just like he has KO-Bombed Jinchurikis before. 4tails is an Easy fight for Deidara Alone. 😂😂😂😂 Can’t believe this is even being debated. 4tails-Naruto is one of the most OVERRATED Characters in the WHOLE SERIES. Fans need to chill😂😂😂
This is a really popular headcanon but it really just has no weight to it. He was talking shit but every single attack he launched was getting slapped away, landing with no damage or countered by Naruto ripping him in half without any difficulty. He was FORCED to use a triple Rashomon just to block a mini biju dama (stating on panel that such an attack would straight up KILL him) and even his Kusanagi couldn't do any actual damage through the Kyuubi cloak.
Deidara blew up the turtle island that Manda 2 needed help with. And we only see Deidara use C3 once, against Gara, which I would like to see if Orochimaru could regenerate against. And how convenient that Deidara didn't use it against Hebi Saskue. If you don't have teleportation or something like the sand or Susanoo you can't avoid C3 (though this may kill Sasori). Orochimaru is very powerful but not twice as strong. I also wouldn't call it fair to say Deidara was too slow for Saskue considering how many clone substitutes he got off- he just isn't a close range fighter so of course he had to dodge.
Yeah deidara's not slow by any means. He managed to dodge Sasuke before their fight started while Sasuke had the sharingan active. That's some top level speed right there.
Another thing he avoid being captured by rock lee crew including gai with no arms.
@@SeviathTheHumanDrago Sasuke was holding back in the battle as he wanted information on Itachi. He wasn't fighting to kill.
C3 can be avoided by just flight. That's what Deidara does, lol. Also Orochimaru's Rashomon could dampen the 4 tailed bijuudama enough to avoid/survive it, so you would need to prove C3 is stronger than that bijuudama.
@@shinji136 Yeah but at the start of it when he blitzed Deidara and Obito simultaneously, Deidara did manage to react to it. I was just commenting on his reaction time.
I had a couple ideas if you down fam.
1. Hogoromo vs isshiki
2. Hogoromo vs baryon mode naruto
3. Jigen vs SO6P madara and SO6P Hashirama (if they hypothetically trained like naruto and sasuke and got the same amp)
4. Sage kabuto vs sage prime Minato
5. Prime third raikage vs prime tsunade
6. Prime onoki vs prime third raikage
7. nagato vs obito
8. Haku vs shisui
9. Kisame vs gaara
I know we don’t have many feats for some of these characters so it’s based of what we do have obviously.
Haku beats shisui,Obito beats up Nagato depending on the version,the third raikage just outlast Tsunade,sage mode kabuto beats up sage mode Minato by versatility and he can summon Madara,gaara beats kisame if it war arc,onoki maybe if you think particle style destroying atoms is better than the Rasenshuriken tearing apart atoms and Jigen still wins since when he brought out the horn he no diff both
@@gameuniverse5973 Dang haku go beat shisui fr fam ? even with kotoamasukami and the mangekyo lol
@@_JonJon_ Haku was stated above part one Kakashi with shisui only being compared too fugaku
@@gameuniverse5973 Oh okay. I think he was also relative to itachi when he was alive. Who beat orochimaru and slaughtered almost all the uchiha clan. Hiruzen even trusted shisui to use kotoamasukami on the uchiha . I said all that to say he would be above part one kakashi too I think lol.
@@_JonJon_ a base Sharigan Itachi the one that beat orochimaru was when he gain the Ms
The thing with this battle is all 3 won’t be rampaging and all 3 aren’t dumb. Deidara always stay at distance, sasory always use his puppets and orochimaru even is mostly a jutsu fighter even tho with his snake body can throw hands. So if they where trapped in a large area than it would be a long battle
And boruto orochimaru is fully heal, got a immortal setzu body full of hashirama cells and is continuing his research. So boruto orochimaru should be smarter and stronger than before
using only databooks for arguing a battle is just dumb, you should look at how orochimaru's abilitys would interact with sasori and deidara's, every one says that he has the 5 changes in chackra natures and he has such a vast arsenal but all he does is using snakes and regurgitate himselfe his best shot is the hydra form but how does he deal against deidara aerial superiority? he doesnt, if he uses c3 (i mean the one with nano explosive) oro is done for, he cannot see the nano explosive and cannot conduct lightning style on his body like sasuke does, we know orochimaru is stronger than sasuke but sasuke has a better match up over deidara, naruto is not dragonball where if vegeta beats goku he will also win against crilin
he might kill deidara before he uses nano bombs
How does he deal either deidara and his aerial abilities? The same way Sasuke did. Orochimaru can extent his neck remember vs 4 tails
Eh, this is a hard argument to make as it just isn't how scaling works. Debating on hypothetical/unseen interactions would never come to a conclusion. If you want to think this way, cool, but it just doesn't work in a way where you want to decide a winner of a hypothetical fight.
Agree with most of this but he has used wind and earth release jutsus a few times on panel
@@IkEisawesome7 Its exactly how scaling Naruto works, if you scale like dbz, your doing it wrong
I don't think Orochimaru will have resistance to Sasori's poison. Sasori's poison is the best in the entire verse(better than Hanzo's)
yup all he need is one cut they win the fight.
Orochimaru had antidotes for it I think it's stated
@@updod88 He doesn't
@@Bjjboxing wasn't it stated Sasuke was immune to Sasura's poison that counters Sasori's in the bridge fight?
@@Bjjboxing Im pretty sure it was, anyways, he has rebirth and can just form a new unpoisoned body if that's the case
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What book is that?
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Lol, the war arc Orochimaru straight up has a Zetsu body. That would definitely make him stronger.
The data books clearly states orochimaru to be stronger in boruto era. He have wood style through gaining a zetsu body and has sage mode now.
He doesn't have sm. Zetsu cells yes. But he has never used sm. Only kabuto had it, and then orochumaru son got the perfect form
@@vibatmanvi Orochimaru's son has a different type of SM, It's not Kabuto's perfect SM. The only reason Orochimaru couldn't use SM before was because of his weak host body. So now that he has a strong body made of Hashirama cells he can use it 100%.
@@The__Deadman there's no proof for that unfortunately. Never uses sm
@@vibatmanvi he never used wood style either, or lightning or earth on screen but he still has them
@@kashfreegame Doesn't matter, It's a fact that the only reason why he couldn't use SM was because of a weak host body, so he can use it. There has been no need for him to use SM.
word of orochimaru dying spread pretty fucking fast for a world without Twitter
You should do sage kabuto vs 5 kage (both kage summit & war arc version)
With or without Edo tensei
@@gameuniverse5973 I think he can beat them without edo tensei tbh
@@justzeroboros some of his moves get countered like suigestu water form or if it takes place in the cave then Mei can limit his mobility by spreading vapor style but yeah i would say even no Edo tensei sage kabuto wins since white rage and sound genjustu are both great tools
@@gameuniverse5973 yeah true sage mode is op lol. He only lost to genjutsu from itachi. Only person he lose to is Danzo with shuisui sharingan and Izangi. I wonder if kabuto can steal danzo body with the orochimaru snake in his body?
It's more like deidara won against gaara due to exploiting his worry for the sand village, I'm pretty sure Gaara was gonna tear him apart had they continued to fight head to head no distractions
Yeah idk why he said he effortlessly won . Dude must didn’t read the manga just went off memory or hearsay
I mean to be fair deidara did say he didnt bring as much clay and didnt use c4 and c0
@@meteor2082 Co would kill him and c4 is the micro bombs right it useless Deidara would need too get closer too ground
@@ItsYent He is a powerscaler, powerscalers always ignores lore.
Sasori was like the strongest person from the Hidden Sand, he had a puppet of the Third Kazekage the strongest Kazekage and many many other hax, Deidara beat Gaara on his home turf while the WHOLE Hidden Sand was helping him and Deidara had to hold back to not kill him (didn't even use C4 or C0) also he almost killed a Sasuke stronger then the one who in base destroyed BOS Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato and a living counter to him (sharingan and lightning style). I do think Orochimaru is stronger then both of them noticeably, he beat Hiruzen, has edo tensei, immortality, various snake jutsu and other hax (he also killed Rasa for sport) but he's not nearly twice the strenght of Sasori or Deidara(whom I consider relative to each other). I mean people think he's around Kisame level (I think he's stronger) what I am trying to say is unless you talk about War arc Orochimaru who can summon Tobirama, Hiruzen and Minato (and even Hashirama if you say he'd willingly fight Sasori and Deidara which he probably will, he's even overkill) Orochimaru gets stomped. Like it's not even a debate, Sasori and Deidara are not that much below him individually for it to be a debate. I also even wank Orochimaru quite often and I love him as a villain so I am certanly not biased against him.
Either a. I'm retarded or b. You contradicted yourself in this text like twice
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@@nagatoshines That's true
People forget the only reason Sasori lost was because it was Chiyo AND Sakura. Alone they would both have lost. Sasori almost kills Sakura at the beginning of the fight but Chiyo was able to attach a chakra thread onto his puppets tail. And they both would have died if Sakura wasn’t one of the greatest medical ninja and had the only antidote ever made for his poison.
@@jabbomyth8735 likewise Gaara couldn't go anywhere close to all out against Diedara because there would be too many casualties
The background music needs to be turned down in this video. It’s tough to hear your commentary through the music
I couldn’t finish the video cause I’m tired of these videos being all statements not feats or calcs but when he used Sakura he didn’t even mention that she had a antidote prepared before hand and the help skth granny chiyo who reanimated is clashing with orochimaru tier characters. Didn’t even talk about how the Justus would interact with each other.
wtf would I mention that irrelevant stuff for? Sakura's antidote has nothing to do with the video Orochimaru has poison resistance Sakura was needed for in this video was that she could weave Sasori. Calcs also aren't helping anyone here they don't help quantify anything that's needed.
I think you forget that kurama is way more powerful than all the other tail beast. 4 tails naruto would definitely be too much for deodars and sasori one on one
Deidara can just blow him up from the inside with C-1 while flying over his head ? And the only reason sasori dosent win is bc tailed beast chakra is pretty much poison as it is so why are you wanking 4 Tails Naruto when his scaling pretty much comes from deidara not being able to blow a weaker sasuke up considering orochimaru apparently up scales from sasukes statement 😭
C-1 isn’t doing anything to 4 tails Naruto
C0 couldn’t even vaporize manda
@@HC-gm4fo thank you for bringing up a valid point. Not enough people do that.
@@sbthesage2100 why are you wanking off Deidara when he lost to a below sanen opponent?
@@HC-gm4fo I mean if you believe in Kishimoto's bullshit Manda didn't tank the full blast which was still resolving when he was reverse summoned by Suigetsu
Interesting, I think poison is useless against prime Orochimaru and slashing him doesn't kill him, and what would Deidara do? C0?
C4
@@Twix44 Good point, Orochimaru can still spawn from his cursemarks so he wouldn't be dead tho
@@Viroh but he would lose the fight no?
@@Sweetlesishere Depends on the win condition, for me the one who dies loses so neither would win here
@@Viroh orochimaru does the Sasuke and summon Manda
What feat does Orochimaru have that makes him tail beast level?
Forgive me if you’ve covered any of these already but
Itachi vs 4th hokage
Tsunade vs kakashi
Killer bee vs pain
Might guy vs raikage
Sasuke vs kisame
War arc Sakura vs lee
Save Naruto vs danzo
Kabuto vs obito
3:43 true but he can still hit hard enough to matter considering his punched 4 tails naruto in the face so hard Naruto had to split his body into a new clone
But he didn’t damage Naruto there. He literally caused no damage to Naruto that whole fight
@@nathanmorgan3457 pretty sure physically pinning the four tails for a bit means his physical stats shit on Deidara and Sasori unless you think if you give them a sword they can pin four tailed Naruto
@@nathanmorgan3457 I'm sorry what?!? Did u not see Naruto was literally close to death
@@tmd-w1552 if you’re talking about how his skin was all messed up then you’re forgetting that kurama’s chakra actually damages him
@@nathanmorgan3457 ....... ok so u get onto Orochimaru from almost dying because his host body started to reject and was literally rotting from the inside out but won't acknowledge that if Naruto continued to fight and completed his transformation into his 5 tails form he would have died! It wasn't just "his skin messed up" he was literally on deaths door. If that fight continued BOTH Orochimaru and Naruto would have ended up dead. That is a draw
😭 that speed scaling is ass almost all near kage level ninja are TSOL so why are we trying to say orochimaru who does not scale to sasuke in speed would blitz Sasori or be faster than him lol
Deidara was fast enough to keep up with Gaara who's sand kept up with the Raikage. Sasori is faster than Deidara also.
@@bjrnthebootybandit GOTTTEEEMM!!!!!
Wait who told u Orochimaru doesn't scale to Sasuke in speed??😂😂 he stopped Sasuke from killing all of team 7 before anyone even noticed him including Sasuke. Pls Orochimaru Is KAGE level
@@tmd-w1552 you cannot quantify the distance orochimaru had to travel to intercept sasukes hand therefore this is not a perception blitz and even if it was this dosent scale to sasukes combat of travel speed so what’s your point ?
@@tmd-w1552 what does kage level even mean I swear ppl like you love to try to put every character in a name category without even defining what the category means the baseline for kage level is literally mei which would mean you’re downplaying Orochimaru because of you’re undefined fucking tier system which causes multiple contradictions and inconsistencies when actually ranking characters
Theory: six is a gator
So if you have the CCs on, it’s calls sasuke “Hebrew sasuke”… boy is out here with a yarmulke
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Im torn. I still think Deidara with the microscopic bombs and no way for Orochimaru to know especially when its a 2 v 1… I think that hack is just too much for Orochi to survive.
Also I dont think the Edo’s would probably work for Orochi as well. Hiruzen was able to stop Orochi from summoning the Fourth and I don’t see why Sasori with an army and Deidara with a bomb blitz couldn’t stop the resurrection process as well.
I still think its an extremely close battle but Instill give the edge to the two
The Fourth's Edo Tensei summoning was later explained to have failed because Minato's soul was sealed away with the Reaper Death Seal during the Kyuubi's attack, rather than because The Third threw some shurikens at it.
@@HaythamSonic true. But in the moment, narratively speaking, it is implied that you can interfeir with the summoning process. Which I think is valid
A civil discussion in this community. You almost never see that. Thank you too for showing me this miracle.
I like how Six brought up the wind jutsu that Orochimaru used in the forest of death to counter poison and C4 but Deidara made a C4 clone he could do it again and catch Orochimaru possibly. The white snake 8 branches jutsu is very strong though I'm not sure that C3 could kill it they will probably need C4 again if he does that
@@Sweetlesishere That would work, but my issue with Orochi using wind to counter the tiny bombs is that he HAS to know about the jutsu before hand. If Orochi knows about the Jutsu its easily countered by Orochi since he does have access to lightning release.
If Orochi doesnt know, he has nothing in his kit to save him. The only reason Sasuke saved himself last moment was because he used the Sharingan. It doesnt matter if Orochi is stronger than Deidara and Sasori then.
Could you make one Obito va sasuke?
Edo tensai requires a live sacrifice present
Orochimaru with hands sealed is definitely still kage level or could handle a biju. The three way deadlock is enough proof
Remember, Orochimaru had a lot of help from Kabuto during that fight. He wouldn't even have been able to summon Manda without Kabuto
Learn more ab power scaling homie he didn’t do any damage to Naruto and he was getting ripped apart he could swap hands with him that’s it any of the 5 kage except mei who is literally the lowest exception for power scaling would clap him so how is he kage or Biju level when he gets beat up by both bad full power orochimaru is cracked tho lol
@@philosopher9672 But he can do it during the fight with 4 tails Naruto.
@@The__Deadman Original Post specifically says "Three Way Deadlock" so not Tenchi Bridge
@@sbthesage2100 Naruto almost died from his fight with Orochimaru what the hell r u talking about?
Its literally a stomp 2 S class ninja vs 1 and deidara can kill almost anyone who doesn’t have lighting style as long as they aren’t faster than him don’t even need to mention Sasori all though orochimaru is immune to what makes him so deadly so that’s kinda cool
@Igor Lobão Lmao you just like Six and swag bringing up random supplementary material to boost your point whenever you feel like but there’s no evidence showing that Hiruzen or orochimaru would be able to do anything a Kin to what sasuke did lol nor do they have Sharingan to see C-1. ppl need to stop sucking the Sanin and Hiruzens dick bc they had statements and lore before everyone else lol it’s called power cliffing bro
Don't Sleep On Orochimaru He's A Threat For A Reason
@Igor Lobão He hasn’t shown the mastery of lightning justu like Sasuke
@Igor Lobão Unless he has something like Chidori Nagashi he isn’t countering it in that way. Which there’s no proof he does
@@jirrellj again ur not listening he doesn't need something like Chidori he just needs to the ability to transfer lightning throughout his body and unlike Sasuke he wouldn't take nearly as much damage with his natural regenerative abilities keep sleeping on Orochimaru
I really like Daidara, he's such a beautiful woman 🥺
Hiurzen was not the strongest Kage lmao stop
Yes, he was. The databooks said it, Kabuto and Orochimaru said it. The raikage was terrified when Hiruzen died. Like what more implications do you need.
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 onki catching a planetary devastation, carrying genbu the giant island turtle witb one hand, erasing 20 plus madara wood clone susanoos, and making mu so heavy that he couldn’t even move, lol that’s enough evidence right there name me hiurzen feats that are better and I’ll be convinced.
@@TTD97 yea i agree in his prime he was probably the strongest but nah
He definitely isnt the strongest n
Believe you or Kishimoto? 🤔🤔🤔
Hard choice
@@HC-gm4fostatements in anime can be wrong.😑 jiraiya could have beaten pain, Sakura is the same power level as naruto and sauske, hebi sauske can beat the akakutski, ect 😑🙄
Didn't itachi no dif orouchimaru when he's like 13💀 I'm sure two Akatsuki members who are kage level will get the job done
Niggas be making useless videos where the outcome is obvious 😭
No
Through genjutsu, he didn’t scale to him at the time
Fourth Raikage and Bee from the War arc vs Hokage Minato
War arc bee beats hokage Minato on his own that my option
I understand what sasori and deidara BELIEVE they can take snake god himself with their instant kill moves (poison and breathable nano bombs) but if they fought they’d realize real quick they can’t hang
Madara wins without even using susano tbh
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Wrong channel
“I mean, you’re not WRONG, but… >:\”
I think 4 tails Naruto can defeat a full biju.
@Xay yeah i think it goes till 7 tails, i still think Orochimaru beats deidara and sasori even without arms not togheter , but when Sasuke said why he beat Orochimaru he mentioned the illness, he speedblitzed Sasuke be fore so i think he would still beat him,he also wanted to kill sasori so i think that armless Orochimaru is still up there with Jiraya if not stronger.
Armless Orochimaru at the start of Shippuden,not in part 1
@Xay true
@@iusanmario8117 i don't know utakata in v two might beat four tailed Naruto that might be a good debate actually
@@gameuniverse5973 utakata has that ability that makes him blue and manage to take down 2 pains ,that seems more of surprise tho because pain's defensive speed is greater then their atacking speed because of their linked vision,and i don't think that the other pains were paying attention because not even sage Jiraya could catch more than one because of their linked vision, he needed to separate them to atack them, and before the blue thing he was kinda loosing agains the 3 paths that Jiraya fought. I don't know how would 4 tails Naruto do against pain but like you said it is a good debate and i think it is a close battle.
i dont think people realize that speed scaling in naruto is just a mess. you've got KCM naruto outspeeding 4th raikage and then just a few chapters later he's fighting itachi and itachi is able to keep up with him and itachi doesnt have any reason to be able to do that. trying to claim that any character is faster or slower than another character through scaling is really pointless in naruto
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Orochimaru absorbed Sasuke > Orochimaru. And Sasuke was a horrible opponent for Deidara. He has lightning release and Sharingan, which helped him a lot in the fight. Orochimaru really doesn't have anything to beat Deidara, who in the air is as fast as Gaara's sand, which can block Amaterasu and the Raikage. So Deidara can just stay in the back and bomb Orochimaru constantly, while dodging every attack he launches at him and eventually beat him up. So Deidara alone beats Orochimaru, most likely. I agree it's a debatable fight, Orochimaru is very smart, fast and has many-many tools and hax. It's debatable, but according to the feats, Deidara should win against him at least 8/10.
Sasori is underrated here. He was blitzing Sakura horribly at the start, she had no chance to dodge regular kunais getting fired at her. Chiyo was the one who carried her ass through half the fight. And even she would have died many times if Sasori don't let them recover after EVERY attacks he did. So even Chiyo could barely react to Sasori and again, Sasori could have finished them within 2 attacks if he wanted to. So it's really hard to say who is faster between Sasori and Deidara, but it's obvious that they're in the same speed tier, which is where Orochimaru is too. So no blitz happens, both can react to the other and if we look at the abilities, in Deidara vs Orochimaru case, Orochimaru just can't touch Deidara. Can't get close to him, can't touch him, while Deidara has a huge arsenal to bomb Orochimaru non-stop. In the Sasori vs Orochimaru case, I say it's more likely Orochimaru takes this, because Sasori's main thing is his poison. Which Orochimaru can probably resist, at least to some extent. And against Sasori, he definitely has the ninjutsu arsenal to eventually overpower him and get a good hit on him. But just like the Deidara vs Orochimaru fight, this is also debatable. For Deidara vs Orochimaru I say 8/10 for Deidara and for Sasori vs Orochimaru I say 6/10 for Orochimaru. For a 2v1 it's definitely a 10/10 for the Akatsuki duo tho.
Someone fucking smart sheesh six and his team (swag and Seth) love to downplay the Akatsuki to Sanin tier even tho the name Sanin doesn’t make you more powerful than someone else 😭
I would also like to point out that Deidara's fights never have him running out of chakra or any mention of it. He does start running out of clay, but against Saskue he got frustrated and might've been able to kill him if he kept going.
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@Ashizura cheeseburgers are overrated?
six what about sage mode naruto vs fused momoshiki . Or tobirama vs akatsuki .
You better mean current sage mode Naruto
do Jugo vs the akatsuki
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