Naruto vs Hashirama - The Real Winner?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- I just go over Hashirama vs Naruto in this video sort of in-depth These are my genuine thoughts mostly throughout the video so if you were ever wondering my legit takes this is one of them.
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Amen
We got both of Asura's incarnations fighting each other.
Who tf is saying Hashirama and Madara would do better against Isshiki and Jigen than Naruto and Sasuke 💀
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only chance they win is if madara is juubidara max power. even then its such a uphill fight. isshiki is just super broken in combat. hashirama wouldn't even be able to touch isshiki even with sage mode amp. just my opinion they get clapped just like naruto and sasuke did.
@@footloosebacon6329 Isshiki still one shots both with no eyes and with one arm
Literally bro Hashirama my fav character but people who come out with this shit just don’t understand power scaling
@@gameuniverse5973 im saying like hes just to broken
Hashirama interacting with Naruto and mentoring him would have been so awesome. Then the war arc would have been a passing of the torch moment
Well he kinda got that from his dad, Minato had the torch passed down to him and died without doing it properly.
Reuniting both with Kakashi and Naruto and passing it on.
@@MistaMasta420 I mean because they are both recincarnations of Asura
“ I’m not gonna do anymore vs battles “ still love your vids tho 😘
Gotta pay the bills bro
Amen
He better keep doing them 🤣
Literally all I watch.
Time to pay some bills 🤷♂️
One correction: Naruto actually does have a sealing jutsu, from the 1 tail, he can use its kekkei genkai, the magnet style Rasengan, and I’m pre sure he used it to seal Madara’s limbo clone. 1:02
It didn’t seal limbo, just immobilized it.
Not the point people its from the one tails not the two tails
hashirama fought all tailed beast bro so did madara you think they can't counter the weak 2 tails lol
@@Imtowavy one tails.
Kcm 2 naruto doesnt have a sealing jutsu. The naruto you're talking about is SOSP naruto.
I said it on the last video. The quality of your content has gotten so damn good man. Keep it up. This channel will grow to the point where you can live comfortably. Good job again.
his opinions have not improved however.
@@tylerberman7527 all ur comments on this channel are just hating on him, just let the man chill lmao
@@jadendobbs it's weird to me that six basically makes a living off giving misinformation and shitty opinions. that's all
@@tylerberman7527 what shitty opinions?
@@tylerberman7527 maybe work more on debunking him than just go around insulting him?
We need a how strong is tobirama actually video..i feel like there's so much contention around tobirama's strength having a full fledged in depth video analysis about his feats both implied and directly shown
Tobirama would be top 10 strongest characters thats non 6 paths after since the war arc actually retconned some of his past that made him weaker
Nchammer23 gotta good vid bout him
I feel like people either underestimate or overestimate him, it doesn't help that he got jumped by Gin and Kin twice and lost, so people tend to look down on him for this, but he also killed Izuna who was said to be an equal to MS Madara
@@appleseed4672 the gin and kin thing CUCKED all hope for Tobi being near Hashirama or Madara sadly.
I got the reincarnation of Ashura
Hmm, id disagree with the idea that Hashirama is directly absorbing bijuu chakra and is instead suppressing bijuu chakra.
If Hashirama was absorbing Kurama's chakra in the fight with Madara, Madara wouldve gotten folded like fresh laundry, and there also wouldnt have been a need for Hashirama's wife to have had Kurama sealed inside of her, as we already know Hashirama has chakra rivaling the amount of the incomplete ten tails in the 4th war.
that wouldve made Hashirama arguably a full ten tails + nine tails + sage mode level opponent in the madara fight and theres no way (even if you believe the storm time MS shenanigans) EMS Madara is fighting a 10+9+sage mode level opponent at that time, when edo madara almost concedes jubito in the 4th war.
Don’t disagree with him he’s gonna freak out
Edo Madara also lost to Edo Hashirama lol
You made a good point but to be fair it was heavily implied that hashirama was holding back for the majority of his fight vs Madara, in hopes that he could maybe change his mind.
he was just playing around ... @@DS-dw3pz
@@Cer049No where was it implied that Hashi was holding back. Once he reached sage mode, he was serious and killing Madara
I know he said no more vs battles but Maaaan these are so much fun to listen to and discuss.
we need tom vs jerry using their feats please
Like a who would actually win with the feats both have
@@gameuniverse5973 yeah bro they actually have many feats from their 1v1s if we add everything together im actually wondering who wins
answer: spike solos both
@@paul_particularlyunhappynut spike has great offensive feats but he was never capable of taking damage from the many anvils tom or jerry drops on him his durability is questionable
people often forget, Kurama is his own character, technically it's two against one.
Technically it’s a tag team. One body.
Not when he’s sealed in a host. He’s much much weaker alone as a tailed beasts than with a Jin.
@@spit-fire no, his body is still there, it's behind that spiritual cage thing.
Bet you won’t say that when Sasuke always 1 v’d 2ed Naruto and Kurama all the time.
@@BoredomandVanity no, I'd still say that.
Who tf argues madara and hashirama wouldve done better vs jigen???
Fanboys juubidara vs any otsutsuki is a debate that people think is actually competitive
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they probably think the would because of them probably using their attacks better, I mean the show basically nerfs sasuke into not doing anything other than teleport, its like he didnt even try to learn anything new with his rinnegone, and naruto, they turned naruto into a fucking loser
Six you are mad clutch bro thanks for being so consistent w the streams and uploads
11:50 When they made that statement they were talking about in their current state. Madra during the war arch was the only one to surpass his former self completely. He also had the most unique edo tense out of all of them. And even than he was weaker than the 1st hokage. That shows how monstrous the 1st really was when alive. It also leads truth to a theory that if the 1st wanted to kill madara at the beginning of their last fight. We wouldn't gotten a Naruto show. Because it took 3 days of fighting before he decided he had enough and he was gonna kill em. By that time no matter who you are fighting for three daus is not only a physical issue but mental and emotional. He's fighting the only person he shared his vision with as a child. A person he hoped to see it fulfilled with. And he only got haft of that. I honestly think he died on purpose just tired of it all. Saved who was with it em so they could run and than fought till he couldn't. Because there's no way he can't get away. The war arch is proof that they were on different levels. Even compared to all of their peers save a few who freaking joined them or forced a marriage on them.
Don't compare power level of someone from war ark with non war self . Just think in war ark everyone get a big very big BUFF in everything ( chakra , jstus , brain cell ( only for naruto ) etc )
@@shantoakter3124 for the hokage it was a nerf, they didnt have infinate chakra and were weaker than their prime. Madara even said to tobirama that hes weaker than when tobirama was alive
@@shantoakter3124 the hokage were nerfed, BADLY. hashirama was unable to use his full power at all, meanwhile madara was amped with hashirama's chakra + upgraded by kabuto. And even then, he was still defeated by edo hashirama and almost got sealed before obito used the rinne rebirth. Once madara got revived, he got STRONGER. being alive made him able to use his full potential, turning the tables against hashirama who's nerfed due to edo tensei.
@@lolcall5295 Tobirama himself stated that "Now that we've been revived at CLOSE to our original power.." y'all are delusional. You're just making the edo nerf a bigger thing that it actually was to benefit you're delusional argument that puts hashirama to a level of power he shouldnt even be in.
@@lolcall5295 madara was still weaker than his former power
Bruh this video was PERFECT!!! Nice Six
Hmmm…
*Kid to early war arc Naruto: No
*Mid war Naruto : arguably
*late war and after: he one shots Hashi while in base
Pretty much my thoughts ksm Naruto vs alive or Edo Hashirama is when this actually becomes something you can debate
Base is funny
@@cursedweaponkenjaku888 but true nonetheless. It’s like saying a Transgender molly waps Goku w no effort
@@PowerSaturn-jm4jj dog what😭
Keep going bro, love the new Naruto content
Six could u plz make an itachi vs nagato video I know u and Seth talked about it on stream but I really would like to hear some arguments for each
Or an itachi video
Nagato= stronger
Itachi= faster
Love the vs battles keep ‘em coming
Either way Ashura wins
Nah ashura has RaW DuRAbILity which is comparable to kakuzu
Hell yeah six idk where u been but so glad your back
Ik you won't answer, but what do you think is the best S class ninjutsu for average shinobi to master? Imo it's Yin Seal bc it let's you not to waste chakra when you are not doing anything and spam ninjutsu when you need it (not only houndred healing)
So Hashirama could use wood style to absorb regular chakra as well as biju chakra? Remember what the divine tree did to the shinobi alliance when it absorbed their chakra? Hashirama can do that?
Amen
Probably i always saw wood style as something that can bind charkra it just works very good against Bijuu since there made of pure Charkra and have more than average people have
No. Six messed up when he says hashirama can absorb chakra, if that was the case the 9 tails wouldn’t have had to be sealed into mito uzumaki, he can suppress chakra
It can’t absorb, it only suppress chakra and somewhat “strengthen “ wood style . But naruto can just overpower it , with his stronger forms .
Remember when he killed zetsu , they end up as tree , because of his Yang energy.
@@rinnerebirth1171 to be honest. Why would Hashirama wanna keep all of Karuma's chakara anyway. The guy really didnt seem inclined to even keeping tailed beasts at all. He wouldve given them to all the villages for free if it werent for Tobirama. Also if all the chakara was absorbed into Mitu, then how on earth is it meant to be passed down.
0:04 naruto isnt healing kakashi, he's using yin and yang to just create a new eye into existence for him, same when he 'healed' gai, he was just using yin and yang to create a new heart that could pump his blood into existence for him.
That was just a mistake on my editor's part I didn't make it clear to em what I had meant.
A certified moment
I will say I think Hashirama and Madara would have made better use of the abilities then Naruto and Sasuke.
why?
@@RanMaru144 well Madara wouldn't run out of chakra every 5 seconds and he would actually use more than one rinnegan ability
@@RanMaru144 because boruto sasuke is basically a bag full of water with a giant hole in it he cannot last in mid or long fights
@@amistake850 bcz Sasuke is nerfed 😑
@@amistake850 DUDE literally every otsutsuki could absorb chakra what can more hax do forhim ??? and sasuke was using teleport all the time and its crazy heavy on chakra...sasuke wasnt nerfed or out of chakra all the time because he was weaker...but he fought way stronger opponents and teleported all the time
The way I see it they’re the same soul/person so both have equal amounts of potential.
If you do decide to continue doing vs battles, these are some good ones that are much more contentious and haven’t been done much before:
1. Kisame vs Pain(favorite matchup!)
2. Shin vs Madara
3. Urishiki vs any otsotsuki or delta
4. Hiruzen vs Tobirama
Genuine question. How is Kisame vs Pain contentious?
A lot of these are straight up wipes, pain is slamming kisame madara is slamming shin most otsotsuki best urishiki and hiruzen beats tobirama
Kisame can be argued above pain due to killer b and 6-7 gate guy speed scaling, while shin relative to adult Sakura ur CLEARLY just an idiot but it’s OK
Urishiki can also be argued above kaguya Momo and all other otsotsuki other then isshiki due to data book statements lol
@@kisakitalks1347 shin is slamming madara and kisame and pain are relative lmfao
I mean we see Edo Madara struggling with Edo Hashi and then after getting revived he shits on him. So there must be a big gap between Edo Hashi and alive Hashi.
I think Hashirama would win against BSM Naruto. Because it is Said (in the Databook) that Madara (revived base) was “the strongest enemy”, implying that he is superior to Juubito, and from what we know Hashirama in his prime is stronger than Madara.
Anyways it’s whatever.
thats madara with hashirama's DNA. giving him more chakra, sage mode, insanely good healing, the ability to absorb chakra and suppress all tailed beast, and lastly gives him the ability to sense things from extremely far away and before they even happen because of sage mode. i mean you have to realize all those things madara got from stealing hashi's sage mode is basically hashirama's entire arsenal but being use with someone with susanoo, genjutsu, and being used by someone with wayyyyyyy higher IQ than hashirama and someone who has the will to do whatever it takes to achieve his goal. all n all SM madara is just stupidly strong and we just never get to see it. i mean when madara gets hashi's DNA he literally thanks naruto for taking out juubito "so i didnt have to" implying he really could have.
He's not beating Jubito.
The Databook in Naruto is full of hyperbolic statements.
@@itachikamui966 dude, just before he got revived by obito's rinne rebirth we literally saw him got captured and almost sealed by edo hashirama. Keep in mind that edo madara was already upgraded by kabuto and have all those hax like hashirama's dna and he still lost to the normal edo tensei hashirama. The thing with hashirama is that he could beat people up with just his CRAZY HUGE CHAKRA. Madara can have all kinds of hax but he's still not winning because hashirama's pure chakra would just overwhelmed him as usual. why do you think despite bringing kyuubi with him and all the hax of sharingan and ambush on hashirama he still got folded by him in the past? yeah, it's simply because hashi's chakra was just so massive. okay, so if normal edo hashirama > upgraded edo madara + his hashi dna hax + rinnegan. what chances do you think revived base madara could do against prime hashi lol.
KCM 2 Sage Mode War Arc Naruto Vs Sage Mode Hashirama would be an epic battle
He also only has half of Kurama for most of this. What if he had both halves? I don't think he even needs Six Paths chakra or whatever if he gets both halves. KCM2 or perfect KCM2 or whatever would be enough, probably. And imagine if he didn't use so much on the ENTIRE Alliance, too. Like basically have all the Edo summons but somehow Itachi broke Minato out of it right at the start, so Minato teleports to wherever Naruto is and out his half of Kurama in Naruto right then and there... then is just like, "Leave the others to Itachi, Sasuke, the Kage, Kakashi, Guy, and myself. You need to take down Hashirama. The rest of the Alliance won't even get to the battlefield before the fighting is over." Or whatever arguably bad writing we need for this hypothetical to work.
And because Good Kurama was put in Naruto, he basically skips KCM1 and goes straight to perfect KCM2. And didn't use ANY chakra on protecting the others.
Your telling me Naruto needs more hand me downs to beat Hashrima 😂
- Don’t forget Hashrima slapped the FULL nine tails + the Perfect Sussano
@@sankeerthkoshy61 He had to use his ultimate technique, and he didn’t outright beat the 9 tails, he just used some sort of chakra nullification technique. He also needed to use sage mode, and he only beat Madara at the end of the fight because he had enough chakra to use 1 WOOD CLONE
@@doug.1926 Hashrima held back against Madara in that fight as he said “I don’t want to kill you Madara” and only killed him at the end, the nine tails gets slapped by the wood golem easily and that’s not even Hashrima strongest techniques
He beat the 9 tails and like 5 other tailed beast, it’s in their 1st meeting ever between the 1st kages, they said he had like 6 tailed beasts in wooden cages and he was willing to give 1 to each kage/village in order to ceasefire between them.
@@sankeerthkoshy61 to be fair, a hand-me-down that is explained is still better than being a walking plot hole.
Love your videos
Naruto was fighting 10 tails madara before the age of 20 and hashirama in his prime was well over that age naruto by the end of shippuden was leagues above him
Do a video on Minato explaining everything about him, his abilities, how strong he is, basically everything
Six why is your name not Seven?
I always have this image in my head of Hashirama wood surfing across the battlefield dual wielding his big ass chakra blades cutting down Uchiha's 😅 what a beast
Hashirama obliterates regular kcm2 naruto kcm 2 sage naruto is more debatable any version of naruto after that is just a mismatch
i feel like ur heavily overestimating the power of sage mode but alr. SM has little-no showings to suggest it makes you that much faster and speed is the only super relevant thing in this battle. i hashirama can grab naruto and suck the kurama chakra out of him its GG but you seem to think sage mode makes naruto so much faster than it goes from an undebatable stomp to a very debatable topic..SM isnt as op as you think bud.
@@itachikamui966 The thing with Sage mode is that it is not used for better speed, but better senses as well as better nature chakra control which would result into making stronger attacks
@@user-fn1lm9xb6u im aware of this but the thing also is the strength of the attacks are completely irrelevant in this fight. hashirama can jusrt absorb all of kurama's chakra meaning his strength isnt entirely relevant against kcm2 naruto if hes FAST ENOUGH to hit him even a few times. whilst naruto has the rasenshuriken which literally attacks ur organs directly and as we know you cant train ur organs to get stronger in naruto therefor naruto if hes FAST ENOUGH he can one shot hashirama. it all comes down to speed. strength is almost irrelevant which is exactly why sage mode is irrelevant. so this guy saying sage mode makes the fight go from a complete stomp to a debatable topic is just so invalid.
@@itachikamui966 Yes but I just wanted to point out what sage mode actually gives lol
@@user-fn1lm9xb6u not sure why you decided to @ me then. my first sentence was literally saying that sage mode is never shown or stated OR implied to give really any speed buffs. obviously is probably gives minor speed buffs but not anything that would decide the outcome of a fight. should be telling this to @Cameron Scott cause they seem to think sage mode gives you some mastered ultra instinct level of speed.
You forgot to use Naruto from Boruto, that scaling will have you questioning everything you ever thought you knew 😂
Post kurama naruto still scales far above hashi
Facts, Current Naruto still beats hashirama
Wha current Naruto vs Hashirama is a debate wtf current Naruto still beats most of Shippuden hell current Naruto vs Kaguya might be a debate
@@gameuniverse5973 current naruto solos shippuden
@@NeverCrawlBack didnt weakened base Naruto's rasengan kill Momo? What is bro on😂
@@kelvanorolle761 yea weakened base Naruto’s rasengan killed momo, Base adult naruto scales way above anybody in shippuden
Me, personally, I love vs battles tbh
KCM2+Sage was comparable to Hashirama. Any point afterwards and Naruto is clapping that man
Effortlessly
Yes but I think hashirama can beat kcm2 + sage
@@mimiverse4132 probably not
@@majikss Hashirama could beat a susano fused Kurama. The whole nine tails not one half. Naruto only has one half with sage mode. Also almost at almost full strength as edo is kinda hard to interpret as to how much Chakra and power Hashirama has. If we base it off what madara was compared to as alive, it is a drastic difference. He went from being 10 tails level to near Jubito level with out sage mode. Also just because Naruto didnt state obito was stronger than him, and Hashirama did can be down to Hashirama being in sage mode and seeing the massive power gap, while Naruto was just in his KCM 2 form with out sage mode. Naruto wouldnt know how much stronger Obito is to him.
@Dillian whyte hashirama was never in his life near jubito levels of power I dont think you understand the insane power difference at the end of naruto, biju were also stated to be stronger while working together with a jinchuriki
Amen amen have a blessed day
I was like this is not a debate until Ksm Naruto then it no longer becomes a debate after that the only time a vs is actually debatable is ksm Naruto vs Edo or alive Hashirama it either Hashirama stomps ore ksm or Naruto stomps post Ksm mode
14:11 *Is this a real panel?*
yes
If base Hashirama scales above a full Nine Tails, then I don’t see KCM2 being enough to beat him. Six Paths is the only way
Jinchuriki are stronger than the tailed beast by themselves so KCM2 is stronger than the base nine-tails. I do think it is a better fight then you give credit to
Lmao bad take
@Mugen it’s not only an issue of intellect. They have lots of power but it isn’t focused like a Shinobi’s chakra is. They are also far bigger targets which makes them easier to seal. So that’s why I think even half as a Jinchuriki is stronger than the whole thing. I can be convinced otherwise if you have a good argument against it though.
@Mugen Naruto doesn’t? He literally just goes into a chakra mode
@Mugen even still that avatar has more benefits and it’s literally stated several times that Jinchuriki are stronger.
"Tobirama so help me, I will beat you like an albino step brother."
We both know that Hiruzen would spank up the both of them tho
Kakuzu slaps them all.
Yeah Naruto stops, In the end, but im thinking just with battle experience and intelligence alone gives hashirama a major edge. Great content.
Yes I agree with you. Experience is a very important factor here. Hashirama has been fighting since he was 4-5 years old while Naruto was busy pulling pranks on others at that time. Also Hashirama's power remained with him till the end while Naruto lost his 6 path sage mode in just one day and later lost Kurama. Also I think maybe Hashirama will be able to bind Naruto's nine tails because he has natural affinity to that jutsu unlike Madara who failed to completely bind nine tails using wood dragon. Also most of the power of Naruto comes from an external source i.e nine tails while Hashirama's powers belongs to himself and if Naruto can use nine tails against Hashirama then Hashirama himself can control and use any other tailed beast which will make it difficult for Naruto to focus only on Hashirama
Which Naruto are we talking about? Hokage?
experience and intelligence wont help when naruto is massively faster and stronger than him in base
@@IrtazaAmhad busy pulling pranks? Lol Naruto is way above hashirama's level
The thing is, Naruto was "Given" Six Paths By Hagoromo. Of course Hashirama wins before that. Plus he was the only one who didn't reach SO6 paths. Imagine if he did
Kcm2 sage mode naruto beats hashi
@@tistakere5055 nah. KCM2 sage mode naruto was COMPARABLE to EDO hashi. Prime hashi? now that one destroys kcm2 sage mode. I mean, alive madara destroyed naruto and sasuke after he got revived and they went down until they got revived and amped by hagoromo.
@@lolcall5295 madara didn't do that tho
He extracted the bijuu using gedo mazo
Alive madara folded base sage naruto
Not kcm2 sage
@@blu3d3vil97 he extracted the bijuu with gedo mazo which he called using his rinnegan. Yeah, so basically he destroys kcm 2 naruto and all other bijuus with his own summoning.
@@lolcall5295 what a way to miss the point like the average fanboy
Keep these up bro
Love the vids (thought we weren't seeing anymore vs. battles tho?)
But yeah with the new reincarnates (Naruto & Sasuke) compared to the previous (Hashi & Madara), it's pretty blatant the scaling. Pre-Six Paths, the previous are capable of winning whether weakened in edo tensei or full power in their Prime alive versions. To note, YES EMS Sasuke & KCM2+Sage (or Bijuu Sage) Naruto are relative in power. I'm sure Naruto could win like Hashi does to Madara but they are still RELATIVE OVERALL. Besides any six paths/Otsutsuki characters and 8th Gate Guy, they were the strongest in the war outside of Edo Madara & Edo Hashirama (yes even stronger than Rinnegan Obito).
But even with that, both Tobirama & Orochimaru theorize that they had potential to EVENTUALLY surpass the alive Prime versions of both Hashi & Madara but not at that point. I'm assuming naturally over time with Sasuke increasing his EMS prowess similar to say how Madara did in the past and Naruto gaining both halves of Kurama and them just training would've put them over but not during the war.
So, Pre-Six Paths: Edo & Alive Hashirama > KCM2+Sage Naruto (maybe this Naruto beats Edo BASE Hashi? KCM2 alone doesn't, he loses to basic wood jutsu + wood dragon) & like wise Edo & Alive Madara > EMS Sasuke.
Post-Six Paths: Naruto & Sasuke wash any version of Hashirama and once they seal Kaguya wash any version of Madara (including 3-eyed in my opinion)
Six path Naruto beats three eyed juubidara on his own i am not afraid too admit it come at me
@@gameuniverse5973 I agree. Sasuke can as well.
EMS Sasuke isn't relative to KCM2+Sage Naruto that's almost explicitly stated in the war arc. He's relative to KCM 2 Naruto... KCM2 + Sage Mode would handily win. He literally gets angry at how he's inferior to Naruto once Naruto combines KCM2 and Sage mode... Jugo has to amp him with the curse mark stuff to make him relative again.
And like Six pointed out in the video the KCM2+Sage mode and EMS+Jugo amp; are possibly able to beat EMS Madara and Sage Hashirama... they're atleast relative based on statements and feats vs Juubi Obito. The EMS Sasuke vs Madara scene in the story is no Jugo amp; and alive Hashirama cell + wood style + sage mode Madara. Not his normal EMS variant.
@@daymianhogue1634 And this is why my name is what it is. EMS Sasuke yes correctly gets upset when Naruto stacks Sage Mode on KCM2. It is THEN Sasuke who gives Naruto that extra resolve to fight Juubito later on and Sasuke scoffs when Naruto says "you know only sage jutsu attacks work against him" (something like that), bringing in Jugo. Eventually in the fight, Sasuke loses the kyuubi cloak of both halves of Kurama (more on that later) and can EQUALLY attack, react and tank the same damage as BSM Naruto with his Sage Kurama Avatar... I will point out this is the senjutsu susano'o but this once again shows EMS ~ Sage + Perfect Bijuu Control at least for here in terms of reaction and attacks. Also will point out that Jugo tanked the same attack as this Naruto & Sasuke.
Sasuke THEN POWERS UP WITHOUT ANY HELP to equally match Naruto for the majestic attire and even huge assistance in the tug-o-war. I don't know why people forget that the majestic attire is literally perfect susano'o armor around Kurama/Kurama avatar. This is where BSM Naruto & EMS Sasuke are relative, certainly not KCM1.5 where Sasuke was matching him without even using susano'o or even KCM2.
@@daymianhogue1634 As far as your second paragraph, Six is mainly using two points that in my opinion can be either heavily debated or outright refuted. Also, from watching the video it seems he implies Hashirama would still win just that the only Naruto that could even stand a chance is KCM2+Sage which to that I agree but Hashirama would win.
His arguments: 1) are the edo tensei aren't a large nerf. 2) Naruto at this point in the war his chakra capacity is relative to Edo Hashirama's. 3) Arguing that KCM2 Naruto could hold his own and shows superiority to Edo/Blind Madara sometimes, only really losing mainly due to lack of experience.
1. At least in reference to Edo Madara, Tobirama & Hashirama, it is noted that at certain points that there edo tensei is lacking compared to their alive versions. Sure Tobirama does state they are close to their original power, Revived Madara outright states in chapter 661 they aren't at full power and I bring this up since Edo Madara & Edo Hashirama's fight played out how there fights usually do. They are fairly even but Hashirama takes the edge (he pins Madara down twice just waiting for sealing shinobi). Once revived, he EASILY busts out deity gates and quickly overpowers him. So yea, a simple argument is there is a sizeable gap in power between their specific alive & edo versions especially since their alive versions are more so myths to modern shinobi. For others, I would argue it's probably indifferent with characters such as Kimimaro, Itachi, Nagato, Hiruzen and Minato getting either buffs or just able to fully maximize their power without stamina issues
2. Why this gets misinterpreted all the time is beyond me. In chapter 644, the infamous line by a Hashi wood clone "he's got almost as much chakra as I" for whatever reason is forgotten by the next line of "No! Actually has kyuubi chakra mixed in" is ALSO forgotten by the fact a couple panels before that Bee & Gyuki recognize it's BOTH HALVES OF KURAMA. The chakra that is shared is literally the equivalent of Full Kurama + Naruto + Minato. Minato's chakra is shared because without his chakra, he can't teleport anyone outside the barrier and we know in KCM2 that the chakra of Kurama and the jinchuriki is mixed. So in reality, Full Kurama + Naruto + Minato ~ Edo Hashirama in terms of chakra. This makes sense considering Alive Base Hashirama's wood golem is stated to rival Full Kurama or a Perfect Susano'o from EMS Madara
3. Yeah this one is a bit of a stretch cause context. KCM2 Naruto does gradually get stronger, with his initial KCM2 performing a Hokage Minato like feat to then quickly surpassing both Minato & Kushina during the war with his KCM1.5 > Initial KCM2 and rivaling no susano'o EMS Sasuke & Base Byakugou Sakura. Still, Edo Madara is NOT TRYING. I hate to use "that card" cause it's annoying but we literally know that he isn't cause him going all-out is using the perfect susano'o. When the juubi is there, he allows Obito to take the lead and just helps with pressuring Naruto but he doesn't go all-out as an edo except once vs. Gokage and against Hashirama. Oh and the Blind Alive Madara getting slapped by KCM2 Naruto is impressive except the fact he's fighting ALL 9 BIJUU AT THE SAME TIME. Damn I wrote a lot.
i think someone already did a naruto vs all the hokage vid either you or seth and they said prime naruto beats all of them 1v1
That's not what this video is.
I think Hashirama over prepared to fight tailed beast. A gigantic structure that dwarf Kurama in size with several thousands hands & can drain/supress chakra. Why tf lol
Never heard this take before. I guess that's pretty funny to think about. But what if the jutsu were developed to counter Madara's susanoo
@@sixfromtokyo Lol it was meant to counter Madara too, it has a wood Golem with a wooden dragon at the top, + 5 heads that uses the 5 different nature types. Madara perfect Susanoo alone could rival tailed beast according to Madara, Hashirama basically made an enormous ninjutsu tank to obliterate anyone 😆.
@@Ancient_Tribesman the Shinsu senju easily achieved feats that are close to six paths
Six videos are pretty cool.
Hashirama might have done better against Jigen for 1 reason: Wood Style is both made of physical matter (so Karma can't absorb it) and should qualify as being "a living thing" (so it can't be shrunk either).
Yeah he still gets slammed
Hashirama would get destroyed in three seconds
He would just dodge it, lol
@@gameuniverse5973 yeah but hashirama would last longer than naruto that’s for sure
Aye nice vid six🐐
nardo wins :)
Around 10 seconds in isn’t it supposed to be “tame” and not “tain”?
12:00 But Sasuke didn’t have the curse mark in the fight?
I'm pretty sure that Jugo gave sasuke a curse mark boost
Bruuuh Jigen/isshiki vs Prime Hashirame & Madara would be a lit vid
It wouldn’t be😂
Don’t forget how much chakra Hashirama’s has . Nartuo with half the nine tails didn’t even have as much chakra as Hashirama . Naruto’s already got an insane amount but even with half the 9 tails it wasn’t equal to hashirama . And he fought madara and the 9 tails for so long. His stamina is insane . He can heal better than Tsunde and heal without using any signs.He’d just outlast Naruto in a fight. Also war arc hashirama is weaker than. His peak due to his being resurrected . Also his resurrection is different as it was done by Orochimaru while Madara’s was done by Kabuto who surpassed Orochimaru’s resurrections. And we saw the power difference for Madara when he was revived and Hashirama’s would be even more.And Naruto actually lost some power after the war losing most of the sixth paths power and the fact that he was only able to reach his form he fought sasuke in by absorbing nature energy from the Vally of the End specifically. And we know that made him far stronger because Sasuke was able to fight him with his Indra Susanoo after absorbing some of the tailed beast power. An Indra Susano far above his perfect Susano and a form he was never able to reach again. Sasuke weakened and got stronger again as he got older and so did Nartuo but the gap isn’t as much you think it is.
Adult Naruto and hashirama has same amount of chakra
bro what😂 you saying that naruto with half of kurama didn't have much chakra as hashirama bro hashirama stated himself that when naruto shared the kyubi's chakra he got much chakra has i meaning naruto's chakra reserve is almost as large as hashirama with half of kurama
@@jonbojovifernandez well narutos chakra was linked to minato and minatos kurama.
Let's be honest here it's a TALK-NO-JUTSU contest. And neither one knows when to shut up.
Naruto has main character no Jutsu. He wins zero diff.
0:12 Dope😎
The show is called Naruto not Hashirama
On phone you loud. On TV, gotta turn up volume higher than normal to hear you clearly. Just turn down background stuff
It's simple: Hashirama has Big Wood Style, Naruto doesn't. Hashirama wins.
Amen
Naruto does have big Rasengan and bigger Rasengan tho but big muscle trees are pretty good
"No known sealing jutsu"
Any form of naruto from six paths no chakra cloak and above negs hashirama
Plz keep making vs battles videos
kakuzu wins
ofc he has raw durability
@@user-cd4um8xm3h multi Conti scaling
the “his body is konoha’s strongest weapon” scan is a mistranslation
Ya'll forget Kurama is his own character
Without The Tailed Beast powers, I don't see Naruto beating Hashirama, that's how broken he is.
Naruto without use of Kyuubi chakra rekted One Eyed Juubidara
@@SRVaris that's after he got Part of Hagaromo's chakra, stfu.
@@SRVaris fr people completely overlook the BIGASS Lava Style Rasenshuriken that cut the goddamn Divine tree in half
@@yagami817 to put this more coherently, Hokage Naruto in base (with half his power drained, mind you. Not even full power base) was swapping hands with Fused Momoshiki. No Sage mode, no Kurama chakra (and no, Kurama doesn't amp his base. That argument is ridiculous, bc we're shown time and again how distinct it is when he uses Kurama's power).
So, Naruto in base can keep up with and damage someone who's at bare minimum equal to Kaguya (but is implied to be notably or significantly stronger) while weakened, and Hashirama straight up stopped trying after seeing unstable Juubito. This isn't a fight.
Great Video!!!
Boruto and Kawaki are stronger than Madara and Hashirama xD
Bro the boruto haters gonna get you hide 😱
Do a video on Tobirama possible summoning . Every single hokage but Tobirama had a summoning not including edo tensei . But they said he created edo tensei by studying summoning jutsu . I don’t see how he did all that research and never had a summoning to experiment with
I don't like the way the hashirama is being disrespected the writer literally had to come up with a way for naruto and sasuke to surpassed madara and hashirama 6th paths was that way take that away they both were much more skilled ninja than naruto and sasuke
no one cares kid accept the truth adult Naruto and Sasuke stomps hashirama negative difficulty 💀
Too bad Hashirama is not even top twenty anymore actually not even top thirty
@@gameuniverse5973 not top 20 in the history of naruto okay
@@Imtowavy yeah 1baryon mode Naruto 2 Isshiki 3 daemon 4 awakened code 5 eida 6 Jigen 7 adult Sasuke 8kawashiki 9borushiki 10 kashin Koji 11 delta 12 fused Momoshiki 13 Boruto arc Gaara 14 kinshiki 15 Boruto arc Shikimaru 16 adult Sakura 17 Boruto arc orochimaru 18 shin 19 Toneri 20 Kaguya 21 DMS Kakashi 22 juubidara 23hamura 24hagoromo 25ashura 26 indra 27 juubito 28 eight gate guy 29 Hashirama that withouth using repeated chars but in different power levels if i did then Hashirama would be top 40 at best
@@Imtowavy face it Hashirama is nowhere near the top where at the point where Kaguya is where the bar at your either below her in low tier or above her in high tier
Btw what editing software do you use
well i think that hashirama wins since in SM he's likely stronger than EMS Madara + Kurama and BSM Naruto is probably losing to that Madara, albeit maybe high difficulty. Also Hashirama severly counters Naruto since he can suppress his chakra. I understand there are arguments to put Naruto closer to Juubito but there are some for alive Hashirama as well.
six paths Naruto Is above juubito
But who wins between hokage Naruto (without 9 tails) vs Hashirama
Base Naruto swapped hands with Fused Momoshiki so Naruto stomps
Naruto.
Hashirama claps every version of naruto up until SOSP.
Not kcm2 sage mode, regular kcm2 though yeah
@@MILDMONSTER1234 he beats that version with high difficulty. He beat Valley of The End Madara with the FULL Nine tails + A susanoo that was stronger than Sasuke's up until that point.
Not KCM2 Sage Mode he has No scaling to Stable Jubito
@@percivalknightoftheflames855 stop the cap, without sasuke's helping hand they wouldn't have been able to restrain Juubito long enough to have been able to convince him.
The fact that kid Naruto is compared to adult hashirama this should tell us that Naruto is way stronger than hashirama
Kid Sasuke has potential compared to EMS Madara too, and that’s only cause Naruto has 6 paths powers and Kurma, if Hashrima had the nine tails, Kurma would be Hashrima Jinkuriki 😂
There’s 0 chance kcm2 sage mode loses to hashirama
Hashi makes BSM Naruto his bitch
he would lose
Sixx saving us peasants
The Last Naruto alone slaps. War arc Yang KCM SM Naruto was obviously weaker than SM Hashirama, but if it’s both Yin and Yang Kurama KCM SM Naruto, then it’s an stomp from Naruto? The Last version Naruto Yang KCM SM tanked attacks that had split the moon in half without even using SPSM with Yin Kurama outside of him facing the Stone Golem from Toneri. Naruto in the last had 2 years extra training improving his SM, and base form dude. Base Hokage Naruto feats alone while fatigued vs Fused Momoshiki is overlooked which Idk why 🤷🏾♂️! Then Naruto feats in the Retsuden novel, without chakra while having heart attacks and seizures too that alone shows that, Base Hokage Naruto without Kurama is stronger than Hashirama base form. Toad SM amps up a stronger Hokage Naruto above the SM that amps up Hashirama!! 1000 Shadow Clones, Oodama Rasengan, oodama Rasen shuriken with his Wind Style Rasengan? Naruto has his Earth Style and taught Kawaki Fire Style. He have multiple boss Toad summonings, and that’s not including SM and Ma and Pa too. We’ve yet to see his full arsenal before they do kill him off
Did you watch the video my guy? All of that was obvious and was stated to be obvious in the vid itself. That's why Hokage Naruto was never on the table in the first place
@@grandempress1947 To keep it a buck with you my guy I did not watch the video but vids like these end in the same conclusion which I stated.
Boruto really ruined the power scaling. Hashirama and madara are considered fodder there. We first had alien gods which were still somewhat acceptable then we have man made cyborgs now that can rival or are even stronger than the aliens.
Hashirama said he was weaker than jubito before they found out jubito is weak to sage mode. Kishimoto even removed Hashirama from the fight 😂😂. Sage mode God was removed from the sage mode fight. People talk about guy not being in the village when pain attacks because he'd beat pain but no one thinks the same when Hashirama is removed from the fight right before they find out sage mode works on jubuto
It’s not the same, not even close. Naruto was literally there with minato who can both use sage mode and their attacks did minimal damage to obito. So sure it does damage but not much. Plus it wouldn’t even matter cuz as the anime and manga showed, obito can literally blitz hashirama
@@akiouchiha8657 hashirama has a sage Justu that picks the 9 tails up like it's a little baby😂😂😂. It could bitch slap away a perfect Susano and casually beat a susanoo wrapped 9 tails. What did Naruto and sasuke use to beat jubito? A sage mode susanoo wrapped 9 tails
Juubito isn’t “weak” to sage mode it’s simply the only form of ninjutsu capable of hurting him. Naruto had sage mode, minato had sage mode, and even sasuke was able to utilize nature energy thanks to jugo lending the power of his curse mark and yet sage chakra only made the fight less impossible rather than giving them the upper hand. By himself sage Hashirama gets fucked up by jubbito as even though he has sage mode he lacks any feats that scale him past the ten tails.
adult Naruto still stomps negative difficulty 💀
@@Forever15xk adult hell nah six path base teen Naruto does it adult is Overkill
Are you considering kcm1 to equate to mkcm?
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Also Speed.
I doubt they would even try and kill each other. They'd probably just fight till one is knocked out
hashirama is the strongest non 6th paths character
8th gate guy scales above hashirama
@@A2Wealthy in your dreams big guy think before you speak hashi could heal you forgot that didn't you with no hand signs the most advanced healing to date for a damn regular ninja he beats 8th gate guy
@@Imtowavy hashirama nearly died fighting a weaker Madara at his peak…Guy fights a stronger Madara try again😂😂😂
@@Imtowavy cant heal if youre dead can you
@@MuerteLobo yea right
Does woodstyle work against perfect ginchuriki? Only time used against obito it didn't work
Hashirama stomps naruto… I mean he’s still a genin
kid go read the manga and stop watching naruto on instagram reels💀
@@Forever15xk kid go read a dictionary and learn what the word sarcasm means
no
@@Glitch1125 ay bro what drugs is this kid on💀
@@Forever15xk 😭😭
Ik there's no feats for naruto and sasuke nerfed right now
But would be cool to see naruto vs shippuden characters
Why u don’t do jjk topics? Naruto topics just been redone to death plus jjk community is changing scaling every month. Would be cool to see your opinions on jjk hypothetical fights.
Hypothetically you should do a sage of six paths Hashirama.
Him using kcm Naruto cause all the other mode could beat hashirama,that’s why he doesn’t want hashirama to loose
Hashirama low-mid diffs KCM 2 Naruto but Jesus(plot armor) Naruto blitzes Hashirama.