You just can't make this stuff up, (or maybe he did), LDS Prophet Spencer W. Kimball felt that the account was important enough to put in his book The Miracle of Forgiveness, why? I don't know. He must have believed the story. I spent a good portion of my life believing zany stories considered doctrine in the church.
All the videos on this channel are creepy - but in a good way. Please make more eerie videos about the Mormon church, Jehovah’s, or any group🙏🏻 Your channel is equally entertaining and educational. You have great journalistic and cinematic skills.
These people say the weirdest stuff. Honestly this seems right up their ally. My wife's family is mormon my wife left the church and now goes to Baptist churches with me. But the point is her whole family believes in big foot basically and I'm thinking this might be why. Their also from south Ohio so that just could be it too.
This is actually a fine piece of animation, and redoubles the power of this apparent folklore with it's abstraction. David Patten, however, was earnest and stood nothing to gain by misrepresentation, if anything, some ridicule of which is apparent in the intent of this piece and the comments. My only artistic critique would be that Cain would appear as a human however dark and hair covered and not as a hangry bigfoot. You would still get your "anti Mormon" points without trying to make David Patten's account silly. Ironically, it does little to belittle their faith and generates more intrigue. The LDS 'bizzareness' you seek to defame is some future times 'new normal'.
David was not ridiculed in his time because visions of Biblical figures were common in early Mormon culture. Members claimed to see Adam and Eve at a temple dedication, and the "Three Nephites" are still spotted today if you believe the people telling the stories. It's only silly by today's standards where even the most faithful Mormon wouldn't expect to see scripture characters walking around, and would think you were crazy if you said you saw them. "Ironically, it does little to belittle their faith and generates more intrigue." Good. I'm not trying to belittle or score "anti-Mormon points." I'm trying to tell a story that I find amusing and allow people to see how strange the beliefs of the early church were. How people choose to react is up to them, but if I inspire intrigue about church history, that's something I can only see leading people out, not in. "The LDS 'bizzareness' you seek to defame is some future times 'new normal'." I doubt visions of scriptural characters will ever be in vogue again, but we'll see.
@@TheMormonInformant David Patten's account was not made public until after his death, and thirdhand at that, making it less likely if at all to be a publicity stunt. He describes Cain as a 'personage' albeit tall, naked, and covered with hair (may have been someone with Hypertrichosis), not as the Bigfoot you depict in image or speech. You also added dialog to Cain that was not part of his original account but an embellishment on your part to make it more bizarre (ritual language), to further serve the subtle attack. It's not lost on those familiar with the account but perhaps only on the most impressionable. I would suggest that a more accurate portrayal by sticking to what is known and can be deduced would have still been 'bizarre enough' for your purpose. As to future sightings, you may find Matthew Bowman's work on the subject of value. "A Mormon Bigfoot: David Patten's Cain and the Conception of Evil in LDS Folklore" (Journal of Mormon History Vol. 33, No. 3, 2007. I enjoyed the animation for it's quality and 'what if' conjecture, as I disdain church productions with swelling music and Crest strip smiles. You address an esoteric and arcane subject that is abstract enough to neither lead people in or out of the faith though your intent is unfortunately clear based on your embellishments of the transaction (additions to dialog at intro and final statements from 'Cain' and undescribed depiction of the personage).
I never claimed it was a publicity stunt, so I don't know why that matters. I didn't change Cain's dialogue beyond making it first person. I added only one sentence at the end about how he "roams the earth to this very day." This was for dramatic effect, and to wrap up the story. Otherwise, the tale was basically word for word as Abraham Smoot wrote it. You can read it here: www.gutenberg.org/files/51730/51730-h/51730-h.htm "President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City: Dear Brother:-In relation to the subject of the visit of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Tennessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that according to the best of my recollection it was in the month of September, 1835. It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his mule and came into the house. The family immediately observed that his countenance was quite changed. My mother having first noticed his changed appearance said: "Brother Patten, are you sick?" He replied that he was not, but had just met with a very remarkable personage who had represented himself as being Cain, who murdered his brother, Abel. He went on to tell the circumstances as near as I can recall in the following language: "As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. He walked along beside me for about two miles. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight. When he left me I found myself near your house." There was much conversation about the circumstances between Brother Patten and my family which I don't recall, but the above is in substance his statement to us at the time. The date is, to the best of my recollection, and I think it is correct, but it may possibly have been in the spring of 1836, but I feel quite positive that the former date is right. Hoping the above will be satisfactory to you and answer your purpose, I am with the kindest regards, as ever, Your friend and Brother, A. O. Smoot."
@@TheMormonInformant The part you added about 'being in [Cain's] power" is an obvious addition and misrepresentation on your part, to attack a sacred ritual by conflating this account with similar language. Not that hard to see.
@@RobertJohnson-gi3sl His mission is to destroy souls. He is a murderer who made a secret covenant with Satan to get gain. He's in league with Satan, the guy who said the ominous words I paraphrased. Is it far fetched that Cain would want people to be in his power so that he could fulfil his mission and destroy their souls? Am I misrepresenting Cain's pact with Satan? Or are you just upset that I'm paraphrasing Satan from the LDS endowment video?
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I dig the vibe/style of this even tho it's silly lol
Silly is what I was going for. Glad you liked it. :)
@@TheMormonInformant yay ^^
He's back!
I cannot die!
You just can't make this stuff up, (or maybe he did), LDS Prophet Spencer W. Kimball felt that the account was important enough to put in his book The Miracle of Forgiveness, why? I don't know. He must have believed the story. I spent a good portion of my life believing zany stories considered doctrine in the church.
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Poor Henderson family. 😂😂😂
All the videos on this channel are creepy - but in a good way. Please make more eerie videos about the Mormon church, Jehovah’s, or any group🙏🏻 Your channel is equally entertaining and educational. You have great journalistic and cinematic skills.
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These people say the weirdest stuff. Honestly this seems right up their ally. My wife's family is mormon my wife left the church and now goes to Baptist churches with me. But the point is her whole family believes in big foot basically and I'm thinking this might be why. Their also from south Ohio so that just could be it too.
I have heard the story many times in my life but never with this much detail.
So, it was his fault that now nobody can find bigfoot 😅
No. You misunderstand. The apostle didn’t want to be around him, so he commanded Cain, in the name of Jesus Christ, to get away from him.
a great halloween story 🎃
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Who made this film? 😂
Me.
How embarrassing for the LDS
why this?
Why not this?
@@TheMormonInformant are you going to make content again?
@@thetraditionalist Whenever I feel like it, sure.
the goat returns
WTF
This is actually a fine piece of animation, and redoubles the power of this apparent folklore with it's abstraction. David Patten, however, was earnest and stood nothing to gain by misrepresentation, if anything, some ridicule of which is apparent in the intent of this piece and the comments. My only artistic critique would be that Cain would appear as a human however dark and hair covered and not as a hangry bigfoot. You would still get your "anti Mormon" points without trying to make David Patten's account silly. Ironically, it does little to belittle their faith and generates more intrigue. The LDS 'bizzareness' you seek to defame is some future times 'new normal'.
David was not ridiculed in his time because visions of Biblical figures were common in early Mormon culture. Members claimed to see Adam and Eve at a temple dedication, and the "Three Nephites" are still spotted today if you believe the people telling the stories. It's only silly by today's standards where even the most faithful Mormon wouldn't expect to see scripture characters walking around, and would think you were crazy if you said you saw them.
"Ironically, it does little to belittle their faith and generates more intrigue."
Good. I'm not trying to belittle or score "anti-Mormon points." I'm trying to tell a story that I find amusing and allow people to see how strange the beliefs of the early church were. How people choose to react is up to them, but if I inspire intrigue about church history, that's something I can only see leading people out, not in.
"The LDS 'bizzareness' you seek to defame is some future times 'new normal'."
I doubt visions of scriptural characters will ever be in vogue again, but we'll see.
@@TheMormonInformant
David Patten's account was not made public until after his death, and thirdhand at that, making it less likely if at all to be a publicity stunt.
He describes Cain as a 'personage' albeit tall, naked, and covered with hair (may have been someone with Hypertrichosis), not as the Bigfoot you depict in image or speech. You also added dialog to Cain that was not part of his original account but an embellishment on your part to make it more bizarre (ritual language), to further serve the subtle attack. It's not lost on those familiar with the account but perhaps only on the most impressionable.
I would suggest that a more accurate portrayal by sticking to what is known and can be deduced would have still been 'bizarre enough' for your purpose. As to future sightings, you may find Matthew Bowman's work on the subject of value. "A Mormon Bigfoot: David Patten's Cain and the Conception of Evil in LDS Folklore" (Journal of Mormon History Vol. 33, No. 3, 2007.
I enjoyed the animation for it's quality and 'what if' conjecture, as I disdain church productions with swelling music and Crest strip smiles. You address an esoteric and arcane subject that is abstract enough to neither lead people in or out of the faith though your intent is unfortunately clear based on your embellishments of the transaction (additions to dialog at intro and final statements from 'Cain' and undescribed depiction of the personage).
I never claimed it was a publicity stunt, so I don't know why that matters.
I didn't change Cain's dialogue beyond making it first person. I added only one sentence at the end about how he "roams the earth to this very day." This was for dramatic effect, and to wrap up the story. Otherwise, the tale was basically word for word as Abraham Smoot wrote it. You can read it here: www.gutenberg.org/files/51730/51730-h/51730-h.htm
"President Joseph F. Smith, Salt Lake City:
Dear Brother:-In relation to the subject of the visit of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Tennessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that according to the best of my recollection it was in the month of September, 1835.
It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his mule and came into the house. The family immediately observed that his countenance was quite changed. My mother having first noticed his changed appearance said: "Brother Patten, are you sick?" He replied that he was not, but had just met with a very remarkable personage who had represented himself as being Cain, who murdered his brother, Abel. He went on to tell the circumstances as near as I can recall in the following language:
"As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. He walked along beside me for about two miles. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight. When he left me I found myself near your house."
There was much conversation about the circumstances between Brother Patten and my family which I don't recall, but the above is in substance his statement to us at the time. The date is, to the best of my recollection, and I think it is correct, but it may possibly have been in the spring of 1836, but I feel quite positive that the former date is right.
Hoping the above will be satisfactory to you and answer your purpose, I am with the kindest regards, as ever,
Your friend and Brother,
A. O. Smoot."
@@TheMormonInformant The part you added about 'being in [Cain's] power" is an obvious addition and misrepresentation on your part, to attack a sacred ritual by conflating this account with similar language. Not that hard to see.
@@RobertJohnson-gi3sl His mission is to destroy souls. He is a murderer who made a secret covenant with Satan to get gain. He's in league with Satan, the guy who said the ominous words I paraphrased. Is it far fetched that Cain would want people to be in his power so that he could fulfil his mission and destroy their souls? Am I misrepresenting Cain's pact with Satan? Or are you just upset that I'm paraphrasing Satan from the LDS endowment video?