I didn’t say that at all…..I’m just saying it is obvious that he really stinks at shooting right now and if he went let’s say 3/7 vs 1/7 or 0/7 they will likely turn it around a bit more
Dont trade fox, before you even try to fix team. We have fine core just add those few not even start level rotation pieces. I dont see what could heat offer. Maybe 4 pics? Rockets sounds more intetesting, but next to pics we should get at least one of reed, eason, jabari. Also i would love to see how monk would look as main pg. He is a bit similar by play style to fox. Score first guy. And we have sabonis to operate off. Monk, ellis (or carter), murray, jabari, sabonis with derozan as 6th man + picks might endup quite good. Also we could get adams and whitmore. So it would already give us nice rotation, plus picks. I think its better to wait till summer and hope hou gonna fail in playoffs. Also we should trade huerter for backup wing. Monk, ellis, whitmore and carter would be enough to cover 1-2 positions. In general guys we have options without complete rebuild. Quite good options to me.
Exactly. It’s clear that getting rid of Mike was a move to appease the players - particularly Fox. To me, it signals the exact opposite of what Matt is saying. That the org wants to win right now with the players we have
How they have fun playing while at one point down 20 Is it their job to have fun or to be accountable for their poor iq?? This is so sad ppl trying to say anything to lie about Mike brown as a coach Pathetic
@db2921 it's so funny that you have a Kobe avatar, and Kobe got Mike's ass canned from the Lakers 12 years ago! Yet here you are acting like Mike is the greatest coach in the league lol
Christie's taking this team all the way to the Finals! This fantastic superlative victory will be remembered as one of the greatest of all Kings' victories.
I think right now... Fans just want a win...even against g-leaugers and dinwitty and Johnson.. the later two who would be better than our bench on most nights. The Kings I agree just went back 25 years... They'll either blow it up now with a new coach and possibly a new GM on the horizon if McNair gets let go. The idiot owner and his committee shouldn't have extended Coach Brown if there was even a small ounce of doubt..or since they almost ran it back + DeMar ... Should have let him coach without a contract until after this season. Terrible
Yeah, that was my conclusion when I saw that video by Lou. It doesnt make sense why they would let go of the HC to appease Fox when he liked him. And then you take into account how Monte keeps getting guards.
Sounds weird, but this was an embarrassing win (only 10PTS) for fully healthy Kings at home against "Mavs" C lineup without 4 starters (Luka.Kyrie,Klay,Lively) and 2 important bench players (Naji,Exum). This should be 40+PTS blowout for Kings. 2 highest (salary) players for "Mavs" on the court today were Gafford (12M) and PJ (12M). 50M salary all players combined "Mavs" lineup today lol.
NBA players who don't get much playing time play very hard when given a chance to prove themselves. Yes, it was a seriously short-handed Mavs team without their superstars, but don't underestimate or disrespect NBA players hungry for playing time.
De'Aaron Fox doesn't give a shit what people think. In his 7 or 8 years he's been in Sacramento he's never been accused or called out for lying to the media.
Been wishing we got DB for years. I kinda hate the guy but imagine THAT on our soft team and that mentality spreads to some degree too. Maybe we have a pissed off Fox often lol
Fox is a star not a super star! He was clutch two years ago and let it go to his head. He was clutch because he would drive to the hoop and hip his middie or pass to wide open teammates, and we would win. Since then he shoots way too many threes he is not a good three point shooter. He notoriously on a break with one defending pops for a three at the wrong times. His basketball IQ is lacking and he is terrible situationally. I will say this, I hate mike browns offense and hope we change it up more. We need more movement in our offense and more players breaking to the basket.
I would say there is no way to keep this team together except for the fact that DC is now the coach. If anyone has a chance he does because everyone has a familiarity with him and they already respect him. I wouldn’t do anything with Fox until we see how the rest of the season goes and what Fox says at the end of the season.
The Mavs didn’t have 3 of their starters. This should not be a celebration. This should have been a wire to wire win and it wasn’t. Celebrate all you want.
Thank goodness that the loosing streak is done!!!!! Any win helps even if it was against a short handed team. DeMar still pouts and barely plays on defense he needs to go to the garbage time section of the bench. Still think Monte needs to be held accountable for the roster he put together and it's lack of wings, how can you not talk to your top players when it comes to keeping a coach.
I love Mike Brown and think it was a mistake to fire him. At the same time, I thought Doug Christie would be an amazing coach since I heard him do the broadcast and I hope I'm right. I love his spirit and loved him as a player. Give him a chance to show you he is an A Tier coach.
We’ve seen enough. This roster is flawed. Big picture. You can’t ride the very mediocre ups and terrible downs of this kings roller coaster of a roster. It’s time to get off the ride. Just waiting for changes. Big trades or tank in my opinion.
Most likely the organization will move Fox either by the deadline or in the upcoming offseason. Monty went and drafted a top guard in Devin Carter this draft for a reason.
They should have flipped Devin for a good bench player or a serviceable backup big or PG. Now the Kings have no leverage at all since they're not winning $h!t right now.
I wasn't in the right mood to watch the entire game, so I watched just the highlights. And I did well because for 36 minutes has been the same old same old. Then things changed especially from a defensive point of view and they made the decisive run. Let's hope it's a good New Year's resolution even if we can't evaluate a performance against a decimated Mavs. If they would have not won this one either, would have been better to retire the team from the competition 😂
Matt love your take pretty much always but slow down with the trade Fox talk .... yes Yes it can be salvaged and hopefully it will be... He is not to be taken for granted we don't want a squad of Bums let's try to keep the Fox era alive.
I think Kings should look for personnel who would strengthen their weak areas (maybe the rook Carter is a part of that) and not trade Fox until the off-season. Re-evaluate then. Enough with the knee-jerk reactions!
Huerter cant be traded this year his contract is horrible.... The heat had the same problem with Duncan Robinson.... Luke kennard who does the same thing if not better as hureter is making 9 mill. Kevin is making 17 mill... Trey lyles is just to productive rn to get anything better right now. Thats the honest truth...
I believe Vivek is trying to make a play like the Warriors did (Like he always does). He saw how Marc Jackson set a foundation and then Kerr took em to another level. Vivek trying to replicate that. Hoping Doug can really be our version of Kerr.
Bad take bro! Ownership hell again ... Miss the maloofs they invested and let the experts decide who to draft, who to trade and pretty much do all the main things to build a team . They brought the energy, the wallet and a face that's it.
Kings trying to push Fox out the door. I expect the team to play better but if I’m Fox I can’t trust management no more. This is the beginning of the end. I see a trade in the near future.
DeMar DeRozan on his friendship with Lou Williams 2021: "If basketball stopped today, if Lou needed my last dollar, if he needed a kidney, l'd give it to him ... I love him to death, love his kids, love his mom. What lou willams said holds weight based on this quote demar is lou source
You barely beat the Mavs who basically used their bench. And was down by 18 at one point. Wins a Win. But this is not impressive at all. If a healthy Exum had suited up its a ez loss 4 the Queens. And he's a bench player 2 😅😂😊
The organization is pretty dumb bro. Hence the almost 3 decade playoff drought. The owner doesn’t wanna spend money to get a decent bench. If I was de’Aaron I’d ask for a trade unless I jus wanted to be a face of a franchise and not the 2nd best player on the team
Optimism is always a good thing. However, I wasn't very impressed with the Kings victory over an extremely short-handed Dallas team, which more resembled a D League team than anything else. The Kings looked very much like their usual old dysfunctional, pedestrian, lackluster selves to me. The Kings pretty much struggled throughout the game and would have been defeated last night by any other decent team in the NBA. The problem with the Kings is that they just don't have the talent. So, sorry, they're the same old pathetic Kings!!!
It is win but an ugly win. Doug Christie is worse than Brown. The kings do not play defense at all. The mavericks do not have all their best players and they are short handed. They lost because they got tired. The kings need a good defensive coach.Let us see how Doug will coach the kings against Sixers. The kings have the chance to win against Grizzlies without Morant, and warriors having problems. We will see.
Coaching had nothing to do with the win. Mavs were missing 4 of their 5 starting players. Mike Brown would have 100% won this game too. Let's see how the Kings do under Doug over the next 10 games before we start taking victory laps.
If Keegan Murray’s shot wasn’t so broken right now. This team would be a lot better.
That's why, the kings need to trade him!
So I guess firing Brown was the answer to fixing Murray’s shot!! GTFOH!!!
I didn’t say that at all…..I’m just saying it is obvious that he really stinks at shooting right now and if he went let’s say 3/7 vs 1/7 or 0/7 they will likely turn it around a bit more
Broken record... No bench. No shooting the three. Murray back sliding on the offense. Heavy mins from the starters.
@@Curby75sure coach was altering his shot with his mind!
Viviek needs to SELL im sick of his ownership
Or at least stop meddling in basketball decisions. He has not learned any lessons!
Dont trade fox, before you even try to fix team. We have fine core just add those few not even start level rotation pieces.
I dont see what could heat offer. Maybe 4 pics?
Rockets sounds more intetesting, but next to pics we should get at least one of reed, eason, jabari.
Also i would love to see how monk would look as main pg. He is a bit similar by play style to fox. Score first guy. And we have sabonis to operate off. Monk, ellis (or carter), murray, jabari, sabonis with derozan as 6th man + picks might endup quite good. Also we could get adams and whitmore. So it would already give us nice rotation, plus picks.
I think its better to wait till summer and hope hou gonna fail in playoffs.
Also we should trade huerter for backup wing. Monk, ellis, whitmore and carter would be enough to cover 1-2 positions.
In general guys we have options without complete rebuild.
Quite good options to me.
BINGO people wanna be so quick to blow it up we just need a few pieces!!
There gonna trade fox lol
16:08: Fox may not have said anything to management, but his agent Rich Paul did.
Exactly. It’s clear that getting rid of Mike was a move to appease the players - particularly Fox. To me, it signals the exact opposite of what Matt is saying. That the org wants to win right now with the players we have
Fight was so much better and hopefully this keeps up
I was in the house tonight n that was a GREAT!!! Win. Fight Sacramento Fight!! idc just get it done 🫡💯 Light the Beam!!!
Last two wins. Hospital Pelicans, Hospital Mavericks. Watch out, here we come.
“Have fun playing” goal from the new coach did the trick. I think that was what the player missed with Mr Brown recently
Yeah if Mike had just said that once in a while, the Kings would have 2 rings
How they have fun playing while at one point down 20
Is it their job to have fun or to be accountable for their poor iq??
This is so sad ppl trying to say anything to lie about Mike brown as a coach
Pathetic
@db2921 it's so funny that you have a Kobe avatar, and Kobe got Mike's ass canned from the Lakers 12 years ago! Yet here you are acting like Mike is the greatest coach in the league lol
Could we possibly get J.Valanciunas for backup center position?
mid forever
Maybe they told three stars while they fired Mike Brown. 3 stars pretend they didn't know so they don't need to be targeted as bad guys.
relax, you guys beat the mavs without luka, kyrie, and klay.
You got the part about beating the Mavs right.
You would’ve been the same person who laughed if they lost…you’re weird asf
Bro didn’t even watch the vid just came with straight hate 😭.
Usually, the Kings would Kangz to that.
A great win vs the Mavs bench 😅
My goodness! Are all Kings fans this delusional. You barely beat a G league team tonight😮😮😮
yeah they all delusional. They beat a mavs team without luka, kyrie, klay.
Nah just trying to salvage the small amount of light.
How bout let the starters lace up and quit crying over paper cuts.
Where's the delusion? It's pretty much doom and gloom over here.
A win is a win this W was for us as a team and as fans stay the course we a piece away from putting belt to ass in the WC
They really should have demolished this team.. instead of having a come from behind win..
But gohead light that broken beam. Lol
Christie's taking this team all the way to the Finals! This fantastic superlative victory will be remembered as one of the greatest of all Kings' victories.
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Yes it looks like Christy might be a little more laid back. Than brown.
Losing streaks can be tough to shed. Now the weighted backpack is off, let's see what these Kings can do.
Nothing burger... Tough west grind both top four east and West haven't played yet. They're done
The Kings could barely beat the Maverick G-League team. Excited about this?? Defense??
I think right now... Fans just want a win...even against g-leaugers and dinwitty and Johnson.. the later two who would be better than our bench on most nights.
The Kings I agree just went back 25 years... They'll either blow it up now with a new coach and possibly a new GM on the horizon if McNair gets let go. The idiot owner and his committee shouldn't have extended Coach Brown if there was even a small ounce of doubt..or since they almost ran it back + DeMar ... Should have let him coach without a contract until after this season. Terrible
I'm not a Mike Malone fam, but he was right -- Kings management leadership have no balls. Hold a press conference on your decision to fire Brown.
Yeah, that was my conclusion when I saw that video by Lou. It doesnt make sense why they would let go of the HC to appease Fox when he liked him. And then you take into account how Monte keeps getting guards.
Sounds weird, but this was an embarrassing win (only 10PTS) for fully healthy Kings at home against "Mavs" C lineup without 4 starters (Luka.Kyrie,Klay,Lively) and 2 important bench players (Naji,Exum). This should be 40+PTS blowout for Kings. 2 highest (salary) players for "Mavs" on the court today were Gafford (12M) and PJ (12M). 50M salary all players combined "Mavs" lineup today lol.
Well obviously. The Kings have all types of issues going on.
NBA players who don't get much playing time play very hard when given a chance to prove themselves. Yes, it was a seriously short-handed Mavs team without their superstars, but don't underestimate or disrespect NBA players hungry for playing time.
De'Aaron Fox doesn't give a shit what people think. In his 7 or 8 years he's been in Sacramento he's never been accused or called out for lying to the media.
Why has there been no mention of the ATL draft situation on this show?
Imagine the irony if the kings trade for Dillion the Villain
Been wishing we got DB for years. I kinda hate the guy but imagine THAT on our soft team and that mentality spreads to some degree too. Maybe we have a pissed off Fox often lol
Why would the rockets trade him for y'all
Fox is a star not a super star! He was clutch two years ago and let it go to his head. He was clutch because he would drive to the hoop and hip his middie or pass to wide open teammates, and we would win. Since then he shoots way too many threes he is not a good three point shooter. He notoriously on a break with one defending pops for a three at the wrong times. His basketball IQ is lacking and he is terrible situationally. I will say this, I hate mike browns offense and hope we change it up more. We need more movement in our offense and more players breaking to the basket.
😂
A win is a win.
Taking bets for how many beams Doug gets before getting fired
I would say there is no way to keep this team together except for the fact that DC is now the coach. If anyone has a chance he does because everyone has a familiarity with him and they already respect him. I wouldn’t do anything with Fox until we see how the rest of the season goes and what Fox says at the end of the season.
The Mavs didn’t have 3 of their starters. This should not be a celebration. This should have been a wire to wire win and it wasn’t. Celebrate all you want.
Thank goodness that the loosing streak is done!!!!! Any win helps even if it was against a short handed team. DeMar still pouts and barely plays on defense he needs to go to the garbage time section of the bench. Still think Monte needs to be held accountable for the roster he put together and it's lack of wings, how can you not talk to your top players when it comes to keeping a coach.
I believe the Kings can turn it around. One game at a time, play together and FIGHT every single second of every game.
😂 They beat Dallas third string
Dont light that beam no more til we get another A Tier Coach
I love Mike Brown and think it was a mistake to fire him. At the same time, I thought Doug Christie would be an amazing coach since I heard him do the broadcast and I hope I'm right. I love his spirit and loved him as a player. Give him a chance to show you he is an A Tier coach.
We’ve seen enough. This roster is flawed. Big picture. You can’t ride the very mediocre ups and terrible downs of this kings roller coaster of a roster. It’s time to get off the ride. Just waiting for changes. Big trades or tank in my opinion.
Monte is crumbling the team.
Most likely the organization will move Fox either by the deadline or in the upcoming offseason. Monty went and drafted a top guard in Devin Carter this draft for a reason.
They should have flipped Devin for a good bench player or a serviceable backup big or PG. Now the Kings have no leverage at all since they're not winning $h!t right now.
I wasn't in the right mood to watch the entire game, so I watched just the highlights. And I did well because for 36 minutes has been the same old same old. Then things changed especially from a defensive point of view and they made the decisive run. Let's hope it's a good New Year's resolution even if we can't evaluate a performance against a decimated Mavs. If they would have not won this one either, would have been better to retire the team from the competition 😂
Watch the game. It was more like 12 minutes (1st quarter) was bad. After that they played hard and came back and won.
We just needed a win for fan morale and sanity. We have a rough stretch ahead and were most likely screwed
Demar and keegan and hurter need to be gone im open moving demar to the bench but other than that man he doesn’t fit
Matt love your take pretty much always but slow down with the trade Fox talk .... yes
Yes it can be salvaged and hopefully it will be...
He is not to be taken for granted we don't want a squad of Bums let's try to keep the Fox era alive.
Maybe the Kings should pass out Rocket RX to the players before each game. Can't hurt, right?
I think Kings should look for personnel who would strengthen their weak areas (maybe the rook Carter is a part of that) and not trade Fox until the off-season. Re-evaluate then. Enough with the knee-jerk reactions!
Huerter cant be traded this year his contract is horrible.... The heat had the same problem with Duncan Robinson.... Luke kennard who does the same thing if not better as hureter is making 9 mill. Kevin is making 17 mill... Trey lyles is just to productive rn to get anything better right now.
Thats the honest truth...
I believe Vivek is trying to make a play like the Warriors did (Like he always does). He saw how Marc Jackson set a foundation and then Kerr took em to another level. Vivek trying to replicate that. Hoping Doug can really be our version of Kerr.
Vivek don’t know shit about basketball he just in it for the money
Bad take bro! Ownership hell again ... Miss the maloofs they invested and let the experts decide who to draft, who to trade and pretty much do all the main things to build a team . They brought the energy, the wallet and a face that's it.
Why do we need to trade Fox at all? Can we not pursue the potential future that he doesn't leave?
High risk personally. Kings can’t let ppl walk for nothing they need to get future assets
I expect a lot more Keon under Doug.
Doug would benefit from wearing a suit and tie or something better than a sweatshirt
Kings trying to push Fox out the door. I expect the team to play better but if I’m Fox I can’t trust management no more. This is the beginning of the end. I see a trade in the near future.
DeMar DeRozan on his friendship with Lou Williams 2021: "If basketball stopped today, if Lou needed my last dollar, if he needed a kidney, l'd give it to him ... I love him to death, love his kids, love his mom.
What lou willams said holds weight based on this quote demar is lou source
The kings are back !!
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As a kings fan, I wouldn’t get too excited. Let’s just let him cook
Kings going nowhere with combo guard Fox as PG.
A single win against a team with all their star players out…relax…give it 10-15 more games, then make that observation if it’s in-fact true.
Trey lyles is more of an offensive threat than keegan man when he has the ball all you can do is close your eyes ….
Keegan should never have been a starter . He is not even good enough to be a consistent bench player
You barely beat the Mavs who basically used their bench. And was down by 18 at one point. Wins a Win. But this is not impressive at all. If a healthy Exum had suited up its a ez loss 4 the Queens. And he's a bench player 2 😅😂😊
i was abt to give it to you raw if we won against bottom teams. but crippled Mavs I'll take it.
no Luka..
no Kyrie..
no Klay..
no Naji..
😂 dafuqqq
I might be totally out of it, but.... Give me RJ BARRETT
You're too caught up with Mike Brown. Phsyco-crazy
The organization is pretty dumb bro. Hence the almost 3 decade playoff drought. The owner doesn’t wanna spend money to get a decent bench. If I was de’Aaron I’d ask for a trade unless I jus wanted to be a face of a franchise and not the 2nd best player on the team
It’s not about money to get a good bench . We could have t Davis and metu for nothing
Optimism is always a good thing. However, I wasn't very impressed with the Kings victory over an extremely short-handed Dallas team, which more resembled a D League team than anything else. The Kings looked very much like their usual old dysfunctional, pedestrian, lackluster selves to me. The Kings pretty much struggled throughout the game and would have been defeated last night by any other decent team in the NBA. The problem with the Kings is that they just don't have the talent. So, sorry, they're the same old pathetic Kings!!!
It is win but an ugly win. Doug Christie is worse than Brown. The kings do not play defense at all. The mavericks do not have all their best players and they are short handed. They lost because they got tired. The kings need a good defensive coach.Let us see how Doug will coach the kings against Sixers. The kings have the chance to win against Grizzlies without Morant, and warriors having problems. We will see.
I think it is pretty clear demar is part of the problem in this roster. Fox and sabonis are exponentially better without him on the floor
So is Keegan Murray being the worst starter in all of the nba
swap butler for fox
🦊 is a 1B on a contender, Spurs. HB his closest kings tenured reunion. Sabonis fits in GSW. Doug isn't qualified to be HC 🤣
If Mike was coaching, they'd lose. Tough pill to swallow for all of you Mike Brown apologists
You sound goofy
Coaching had nothing to do with the win. Mavs were missing 4 of their 5 starting players. Mike Brown would have 100% won this game too. Let's see how the Kings do under Doug over the next 10 games before we start taking victory laps.
@@TheSteezyEazyMMAHour how do I sound goofy? They literally just lost to Detriot and were on a 6 game losing streak
@@Thedrunkguy1 how'd he far the last 6 games? You saying he'd undoubtedly win this game is a stretch
@@jonmichael3280 so Mike Brown is the reason Fox made one of the dumbest plays of all time for Detroit to win that game? 🤔
If i were a kings fan I wouldn’t be happy😅 But Gg’s 🤝
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