Michael Jai White Hated Lennox Lewis Until He Met Him, Why Boxing is Dying (Part 9)
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In this clip, Michael Jai White reacts to Mike Tyson saying that boxing is a dying sport next to UFC, and Michael stated that he agrees with Tyson. He went on to speak about there being three belts in boxing and only one UFC champ. Michael then spoke about certain boxers like Tyson Fury needing more marketing to be as dynamic as some of the UFC fighters like Conor McGregor. He also pointed out that the UFC is more violent than boxing, and added that boxing became boring when heavyweight fights took over. To hear more, including how his perception of Lennox Lewis changed when they met, hit the above clip.
im loving this trend of youtube personalities and celebrities getting in the ring, its all trending towards vlad vs rick ross lets go
Vlad still has nightmares
Top comment😂
Lmao
Let’s Gooooooo
You mean Vlad vs Joe Budden. Budden's been wanting to put hands on him lmao
Vlad literally knows nothing about sports
he knows alot about google
Most people don't know shit about boxing. He calls Mayweather the biggest star, that is vague and ignorant. Internationally, the biggest star even today, is Manny Pacquiao. His licensing deals go longer than Floyd's purse money.
@@MidwestBoxin is that really true; the average fan in the world only really pays attention to the heavyweight class. Actually boxing fans manny might be popular but casuals just don’t really pay attention to “little people” they want larger than life athletes like a 6”9 Tyson or 6”6 Joshua
@@MidwestBoxin stop lying Manny got his checks getting cut 3 different ways its not even a comparison in wealth between the 2..and Floyd kill the PPV percentages as well you sound like a hater considering there is literally no information out here stating how much Manny has made off licensing so you making up numbers 😂
@@nashmangwendeza4770 The middle and welter weights were more popular than heavy weight during the late seventies and early eighties. Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Aaron Pryor, Alexis Arguello and so on those guys ruled the boxing world during that time. Mike Tyson came on the in mid eighties.
I hated Lennox at first as well. Now I recognize him as one of the GOATS.
Top 50 for sure lol
@@Jim_Bag top 5 heavyweights probably.
Facts
@@pablohanc my knock for him is the era. I just feel he was post the golden era, and pre klitschko dominance. Not his fault though
@@Jim_Bag nah, can't agree with that. 90s heavyweight scene was excellent, an improvement on the 80s, and better than the 2000's. And Lewis and holyfield would be a match for any era, and probably dominate them all. If they'd been the same age as the klitch's, there would have been no klitch dominance. If they'd been at their peak in the mid 80s, tyson would have struggled.
I don't think they follow boxing that deeply. Boxing is poppin if you follow it. Ain't huge mainstream, but from 130-160, it's young hungry lions.
Exactly Spence vs Garcia would’ve sold out if corona wasn’t a thing ....canelo vs smith would’ve definitely sold out if corona wasnt a thing .... Whoever Pac-Man decides to fight going do numbers ..,.tank Davis is doing crazy number ....etc
@@deeswagg21 Exactly! Spence garcia would've packed out the cowboys stadium I bet and the UK would've had 90k ppl in that wembley stadium for canelo vs smith
There is a difference between awesome talent and awesome promotion! Rn boxing has awesome boxers but horrible promotion ! Without RUclips stars boxing is kinda dull unless your in the knows know
@@x5150xiBuLLeTz Respectfully, I gotta completely disagree. RUclips stars would get their followings to watch them do anything. Nobody that really follows boxing and is not a jake/logan paul fan cares about those fights. They do numbers yes, but the boxing community don't care bout that. Also, Jake/Logan knows this and I feel like Jake really wanna be taken serious as a fighter, so I really do hope his popularity gets more ppl into boxing. But he getting washed when he fight a real fighter tho
@@x5150xiBuLLeTz lmao ur high look up Pac-Man vs Thurman numbers got nothing to do with you tubers l
Every year boxing is "Supposely" dying but here we are.
Boxing won't go away but the fight game has transitioned to where personalities sell fights.Boxing still has athletes but is lacking "Hollywood" types.
Pacquiao, Spence, Crawford, Chocolatito, Canelo, Teofimo, Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Stevenson, Ortiz, Charlo’s, Shields, Benavidez, Inoue, Usyk, and about 50 more top fighters...
yes to a boxing fan, those names are common.
Non fans, nope.
Tyson and Sugar Ray pulled in non boxing fans.
@@ronaldmcdonald1977 tbf in the U.K. Joshua and fury and very big. Same with canelo. It’s a very big shame though. Wilder had so much potential to be big with his style
@@ronaldmcdonald1977 facts
Boxing politics is killing the sport. Boxing fans never get to see the fights they want to see, when they want to see it. Maybe you'll see your favorite fighters go at it, maybe you won't. Don't bother asking why you'll never see the fights because all you will find is a pile of BS. Great sport, trash business.
Yup. People keep dodging fights, or negotiating so that anybody who fights them is offered peanuts so that the fight won't go forward. Or they want to fight someone 5 or 10 years past their prime, or who has to come up multiple weight classes to get to them, etc. Nothing heroic about it, just business.
Perfectly said
That is very slick for Vlad not to mention Deontay Wilder him but he mention Andy Ruiz Jr
I see that was shade throwing fr. When Tyson Fury first beat Klitchzsco still nobody really knew about him. But once people started seeing the clips of Wilder knocking people tf out it brought the attention back to the sport of boxing. Now that Wilder lost and hasn’t fought in 10 months the sport of boxing has begun to dwindle again.
I think Vlad was reading those names off a list but played it like he knew them
@@biglilstantheslasher7666 Anthony Joshua knocking out Klit is what brought the spark back, when Wilder started calling out AJ people started to pay attention to his KOs, I know u Americans hate AJ but that’s straight up facts. The Wilder/AJ buzz is what brought people back and Fury and Ruiz spoiled it all 😂😂
@@MC-yq6us I still didn’t know who AJ was after the Klitch fight. The U.S dgaf about anything outside of the U.S. most casuals i talk to don’t even know who Joshua is and only know a little about Wilder or Fury. Still, there not looking to pay for Fury fights. For you to say AJ brought boxing back is really out of touch the U.S. Outside of the true boxing fans and who really follow the sport, nobody in the U.S knows who AJ, Fury, and again barely know about Wilder. But more people in the U.S know about Wilder than AJ. You can’t say who cares about the U.S who has the largest entertainment capital and the 3rd largest population in the world.
@Elton Francis what about ruiz joshua 2 vs tyson wilder 2?
With all that being said. UFC on a single event still doesn’t reach the pay per view numbers boxing does
That’s not true at all lol
Yea but the ufc is a toddler compared to boxing.
Boxing is dying an you got RUclipsrs doing it
It's hard to say now since UFC broadcasts its PPV only on ESPN+
God bless Cm punk wasn’t fighting on the main event cards what you talking about,Brock Lesnar was not Cm Punk know your facts brother! An Jake & Logan Paul is destroying Boxing not fighting actual boxers plus Boxers always hand picked their fighters
Boxing is not dying. It just doesn't have a megastar right now. The numbers are still tremendous for high level bouts.
True, Tyson Fury and Wilder were good for boxing, although the 2nd time Fury already had the blueprint and made easy work. Anthony Joshua is pretty nice too, I couldn't name any other guys under 35 though.
It would be nice if we get an era of boxers who really love boxing, don't need no more adrien broners pretending to be like floyd
By the rating ufc is killing your boring and dying sport lol
He hates AB but when Adrian Broner came on the scene in 5-6 yrs ago... Everyone tuned in.. that’s the personality he’s talking about
good point
Now I know he knows nothing about boxing. Lennox wasn’t a killer? He was one of the best heavyweight finishers.
@Nowhere But Everywhere go drink milk idiot. You’re mad as fuck for no reason
At the time people thought he was boring
@Nowhere But Everywhere you calling him stupid but by your dumbass logic, he needs to fight in the ring in order to be qualified to leave a comment on youtube. Shut up.
@Nowhere But Everywhere you dont even know lol. You are making stuff up. You fight so your allowed to leave a youtube comment? And I didn’t laugh at nate ya moron, stop making stuff up lol. You talking about so much shit you have no knowledge about, but act like you know everything. What a clown.
@Nowhere But Everywhere you make all this shit up with no facts then say you dont talk to idiots? Thats ironic. Who said I didn’t fight either? You dont even know people on the internet.
Boxing is dying because of casuals like Vlad and MJW give out misleading info. This guy thinks because he played Tyson in a shitty TV movie he is a boxing guru lol
Lmao
Bingo
The hate on Michael Jai White is so unnecessary.
@@smileykid18 not hate. It’s truth. He’s not a fighter. He does martial arts. UFC fighters, bóxers, kick boxers. Those are fighters and all would serve MJW. If he stepped in the cage with Perry I’d respect him. He’s all talk
J could you beat MJW?
Lewis vs Klitschko was one of the best fights I've seen. Was so mad when they stopped it cuz of a bad cut (Even though they were right). Vitale took a shot in the 6th that would have floored the Hulk.
I remember watching it with my dad and being so pissed too
@@MizTheDonGargon Watched with mine too.
The fact is that Lewis was losing the first two rounds and then changed it up and went inside on Klitschko cutting him fairly (ie didn't headbutt). That fight was stopped fair and square. Eventually Lewis would've won on points as Klitschko was missing a lot of shots and couldn't see out of his left eye. Though Lewis was clearly not in the best cardio condition.
There was no rematch because Klitschko wanted the same purse as the reigning undisputed HW champion of the world, which was preposterous. Then Lewis' wife made him retire. So that was that. The HW title was never reunited past that point.
@@mostlyboring And that cut was DEEP. Remember my dad saying "Look, it's the Russian guy's brain." But yeah, it was the right call.
It was a sloppy fight but exciting.
I disagree. Boxing WAS a dying sport about 4/5 years ago, but it has resurged in recent years. MMA is what’s on the decline at this point. The biggest prize fighters outside of Jon Jones and McGregor, are all boxers. I do agree that boxing has way too many belts, but since the rule of PBC, and the up and coming fighters, boxing is top dog.
Style Bender?
@@marlowstanfield6815 , I forgot about Izzy, him too to a certain degree, but I think about 45-50% of people would either know of Jones, heard of Jones, or can identify Jones. As for Connor, I think about 60 - 65% of people would know who he is. I think only fight fans would know who Izzy is
@Sly Boogy Facts 💯
Negative
Your wrong my boi
Mayweather said there are too many belts.
It is it need to get rid of some of these secondary belts and this new franchise belts are making it worse
The GOAT is right.. but the boxing community been saying this for years, he just brought it to the spotlight.
@@flower98712 Before you got to the end of writing that sentence, they came up with 10 more belts.
There used to be boxing on ABC’s wide world of sports, Tuesday night fights on USA, pay-per-view events would have multiple championship fights, then it started getting political, nobody wanted to fight each other & pay-per-view prices skyrocketed for crappy cards.
Speak on it old school, back when you could watch a fight without breaking the bank
PBC trying to bring it back but it ain't working. There's good fights to be made but when I hear boxers talking about purse splits or talking about they team when asked who they want next....I'm done. When Spence was like 60/40 for Crawford....??? Cmon why not just say, you want the fight made. UFC has had its share of duds too, lets not act like UFC aint a lil stale too right now
That drum set up in the back been holding it down for a min
Saying Lennox is not a killer let’s me know everything I need to know about your boxing knowledge. You are SUPER BUGGIN.
vlad needs to see the shannon briggs fight lmao.
Lennox wasnt a killer...... Until he lands that 2 piece extra crispy🤣🤣
He need to go back and ask Tyson if Lennox is a killer or not.
@@morelifeking2973 he wasn’t Lennox trainer even said he was scared to death of mike they drugged up mike to get Lennox to fight him & his Corner was telling Lennox during the fight to hurry up and finish him off before the drugs wore off
Vlad calling UFC a sport. MMA is the sport and UFC is a promotion company and there's lots of others worldwide.
Sad to say most ppl make that mistake it’s because most fans just wanna see knockouts and have absolutely no idea what mma is. MMA is so popular because it looks like a street fight to normal ppl who don’t know what they are looking at
But UFC is old asf so a lot of us up in age associate MMA with UFC. Hell before it was popular to say "MMA" we just said Ultimate Fighting
UFC is less than 30 years old. That is young for a major sports promotion.
@@dustincalloway564 30 years isn't young at all... Keep in mind the age of the sports ur comparing it to
What is this dude talking about? boxing is not dead, this year alone boxing put the best against each other, Boxing has had new rising stars, and new champions. Say what you want about Lennox he was the last Undisputed champion in the heavyweight division.
Yea it only took boxing 20 years to give fans a fight they actually wanted smh
Boxing is doing well thanks to Eddie Hearn
@James Miller well said..its like the smoking area in the bar when the ufc is on everyone's an expert
Vitaliy Klitschko held his WBC title when he retired
@D B the best always fight the best in the UFC. Anderson Silva and GSP are in two different weight classes. Fedor was never signed to the UFC. Khabib did fight Conor. You already forgot??
I think boxing isn’t big for casuals esp in America is because they havent got that fighter that they can get behind, you have the spences/Crawfords and the Tanks etc but maybe its a personality thing that doesnt make people take to them on a massive scale; also lack of big fights happening for example; That Wilder Joshua fight should of happened 2 years ago but ot didnt; Spence and Crawford dont look like it’s happening and time soon either. I like Michael however to Call Wladmir just an athlete is disrespectful imo; say what you want about his style and outside the ring antics but these guys train hard and weve seen wladmir get dropped and get up lots of times and keep fighting, i didnt like that comment by Michael
Glad also said Lennox lewis wasnt a killer? What is this guy talking about go and watch back his fights😭
Thats why I'm glad the celebrity boxing fights are bringing new people to the sport. It needs to reach the casuals.
It's like Floyd said, it's too many belts for the same weight class divisions and that's because the boxers have to pay a fee for their belts, so it's like a Birdman/Lil Wayne type of relationship at the end of the day. All the top fighters in each weight class should be fighting each other but they wanna go out like Floyd with a perfect record...
@@willieboyland3180 yeah, for someone who doesnt follow boxing closely, the IBF/WBO/WBA/WBC situations can be really confusing and all the sub world titles they have an intirm belts etc; trying to explain what they all mean to friends is always a task😂
@@KingsV1 True. Everybody wants to be unbeaten champions instead of Hall of Fame Legends. All the top fighters should be facing each other but nobody wants an L on their record so they fight a lot of fly by nights that they know they can beat...
Boxing has suffered over the last 20 years because there are more opportunities for black and latino youth now than before. 20+ years ago boxing was seen as a way out of the ghetto so it attracted men that clawed their way from the dirt. Same thing happened with Italian Americans before them. Why risk your well being getting punched in the face when you can make a decent living doing something better? UFC is an entirely different animal. It is a much more exciting sport where anything can happen and it attracts competitors from all walks of life, including women. So it reaches a much broader fanbase. Once the UFC starts paying its fighters NFL or NBA salaries it may become the biggest sport on earth.
Indeed. The best big men are playing in the NFL with far less chance of head injuries.
Good point. Basketball, Football...all if the would be heavyweights are there.
@B S no dummy, I never said that. But if you know basic American history you would know that BLACK and LATINO youth did not have equal footing and opportunity in this country until just recently. But if you're young and especially if you're white I guess I can't blame your ignorance on the matter.
Lennox lewis was a destroyer of souls he layed out everyone in front of him. I have to put him top 4 alltime behind the great joe louis, muhammad ali,& forman. Lennox lewis ko's 95% of every heavyweight in any era besides the men i listed ahead of him thats just the facts.
i was like 8-9 yrs old raised on Tyson tapes...he had me damn near in tears when he dropped Tyson i couldnt believe it i thought tht was gonna be Tyson's big comeback
@Sly Boogy he ducked tyson for years stop it.
@@kingS-sl9wj Lewis never ducked Tyson.
Tyson in his prime would defeat Lewis
@Sly Boogy nah it's a fact Tyson in his prime would smoke Lewis. It's not news the state Tyson was in. No one is saying he won that Lewis fight or deserved to.
Vlad was definitely reading those heavyweights names off a website but played it like he knew them off the dome
Interview max kellerman. He will teach you something about boxing vlad
BINGO!!
Max knows nothing about boxing....that's why its in the state it's in...because people depend on someone who knows nothing about boxing to teach them about boxing 🙄
@@tonyatucker6357 lol and u do?
@@jedislayer66_ we know Kellerman doesn't....and that's what matters most
@@tonyatucker6357 lol ok buddy
Mfers been saying boxing has been dying since Tyson retired. Boxing is doing well with Canelo, Spence, Crawford, Lopez, Fury, AJ, and Wilder. The new prospects Edgar Belenga, Virgil Ortiz, Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia, and Shakur Stevenson are looking great, too. The Charlo Bro’s are great to watch also.
Facts
Boxing doing well vs boxing doing good promotion! There’s a huge difference
You forgot to mention Devin Haney
Boxers earn much more than UFC fighters, so I don't know how it's dead. It just appeals to a different audience.
And youtubers are becoming bigger than all of you boring fighters lol
Boxing is dying because there are no personalities, they fight once a year, never take chances and the scorecards are either rigged or the judges are stupid
Fury is a huge personality
Facts
Casual fans and people who never taken place in combat sports will always call shit boring, they want to see Knock outs Only. They don’t care about the technique, footwork,conditioning, head movement. Hence why people call Floyd boring while he actually displayed every aspect of a real fighter in every match
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It’s always crazy that the ppl who never built up champions try to critique and criticize legendary trainers like Emmanuel Stuart
Boxing dead? Tyson v Jones Jr broke broke the bank. And who hasnt watched Wilder sleep a ton of people
@@art_of_comedy3241 and still UFC cant beat boxing numbers. Ufc is cool but boxing is always the GOAT
@@moesunnyside8319 wrong.. you’re just mad cause boxing is in Hospus
@@donthatetheflayerhatethega4170 not mad just facts that boxing makes more money...boxing nor ufc is bad as far as sport...true warriors that step in the ring or octagon
Old farts is best respond to boxing is dead lol typical stupid boxing fans
Boxing is alive and well!
@Lonnie Brazil...Yup!
FACTS! He trippin hard
Highly disrespectful to active boxers who put their lives on the line! Terrence Crawford, Errol Spence, Benavidez, Canelo alvarez, Shawn Porter, Tyson fury, Deontay Wilder, Charlo brothers,Tank Davis, King Kong, Danny Garcia, Lomachenko, pac man, Anthony Joshua, AND THE LIST GOES ON Boxing is RIDICULOUSLY COMPETITIVE RIGHT NOW!
Boxing is on life support. Literally only a few stars left: Canelo, Fury, AJ....the others are virtually unknown to the mainstream. Not like it was 20+ years ago when there were multiple stars that everyone knew about.
@@theDavidChannel1 u don’t know what ur talking bout how about looking up the numbers instead of saying it’s on life support.....of course it’s not going be what it was 20+ years ago we in the age of the internet and illegal streams and ufc is blowing up too ....boxing still has a big following and will never die
If Vlad wants to know who Lennox Lewis was he is the guy Tyson ducked many times until he had to fight him for money when he was past his prime. I’m not saying he would have beat prime Tyson but he is legit one of the greats and it’s foolish to dismiss him because he wasn’t someone who just swung punches.
Tyson couldn't beat anyone who stood up to him
@@youdontknowshite Casual spotted.
I’m tired of Vlad speaking up on fighting and fighters cause he talks like he knows what he’s talking about but really has no clue. Lennox Lewis wasn’t a killer. He thinks all killers have a Mike Tyson persona which isn’t true. Calm down
Vlad should ask Mike Tyson if Lennox is a killer or not.
@@CReydaboss and fought like a man the whole fight. I’m not gonna lie bro, I looked in Lewis’s eyes before that fight and knew he was a dangerous man right there, but Vlad don’t know nun bout that.
No cap
Boxing needs to have a game and they will be just fine
I love boxing over mma. Though younger people didn't grow up with Tyson Holyfield Roy Jones etc.
Viewers numbers and fans are two different things.
“I’m having problems with names today” aka I don’t know what I’m talking about
UFC is almost like a street fight that's why people love it more then Boxing imo
It basically was a street fight back in the 90's up until the 2000's.Eyes gouges, head butts and groin strikes were the only things not allowed.
not really Pride in Japan was superior then UFC
Imagine if Lebron could chose not play certain teams because they don’t sell as many tickets as he does. That’s boxing
@@kennney8653 ufc has buy pride.
I met Lennox Lewis in club in Long Island back in 03. He was a cool dude.
Boxing is only a dying sport if your American. The rest of the world doesn’t see it as a dying sport.
Well they not talking about the rest of the world just boxing in the US. But I think it’s getting back popping with these personalities getting in the ring.
California and Texas alone have more people than the entire UK. That probably has a lot to do with it.
@@cherryrue89 I just heard them say it was a dying sport, I didn’t hear them say it was a dying sport in America. I may have heard it wrong. Either way I think dying is a bit over the top. A dying sport would be one that nobody does. I feel like people just want to always fixate on the past. Boxing’s numbers aren’t like they used to be but that’s like most things. The world moves on, doesn’t mean things are dying just changing.
Those images of Canelo and Kovalev sleeping in their couches waiting for Masvidal vs Diaz to end tells you everything you need to know about the state of boxing today.
@@theDavidChannel1 yeah definately they are bigger. But it isn’t a UK or American thing it’s a world thing. If something is “dying” in one place it doesn’t mean it’s dying everywhere.
Vlad brings up Tyson fury then seconds later says "I don't know much about him." Lame.
The heavyweight boxers are now being raised to be NFL players
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Dk metcalf on the Seahawks for sure would be a dominant heavy weight
Not really. That's the biggest myth that goes around.
Nothing makes more money than a big boxing fight. UFC doesn't even come close. If boxing was just one league and one belt for the different weight classes, we would finally get to watch the best fighters in their primes go at it. It would be bigger than the NFL without a doubt.
People been saying that boxing is "dying" for the past 50 yrs or more.
How anyone can hate anyone else without ever meeting them or knowing them personally is beyond me.
I don't know trump personally or never met him but....... 🤷🏾♂️, nor ike Turner or Ted bundy etc lol. But I get what you're saying
I've never met a rapist or a killer I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like them without having to meet them lol j.k
Lol that's without compare.
Michael hated him over dumb things without knowing him.
That's not wtf Steward taught Lewis. He wanted to make Lennox more fundamentally sound, improve his balance and more aggressive. The only fighters that survived against Lewis had phenomenal chins. MJW should watch Lewis's thriller when he bombed out Briggs. I remember Lewis intentionally dropping his hands and letting Briggs hit him, then knocks him down. Lewis was a killer.
To put Lennox with the group of ‘athletes that were taught to box’ isn’t fitting. Each boxer is going to have a different mindset, different motivations, different level of drive etc. Lennox started boxing young, and had an amateur record of around 80 fights , fought in 2 Olympic Games and showed all indications that he was aiming to cement himself as one of the greats. He even continued to work on his style after turning pro and implemented very good strategic skills and game plans for fights.
You got that right.
Wilder is still popping, Errol spence, gervonta davis, the charlo brothers
You just listed one of the best fighters that keep boxing alive and popular
The only thing Poppin is Wilder's blood vessels in his ear from Tyson punching it 😂😂😂
Outside of wilder none of those fighter has sold over 400,000 buys on ppv, and Wilder had only done it Twice with Fury. Outside of Wilder none of them are established stars yet
They all woulda got their ass beat in the 70s-90s era. Boxing definitely dying. I did it for 20 years, I know the game.
@@diamondlife8086 Errol just had 300k he's a star and Tank is getting bigger and bigger
"How you gone love a robot?" Quote of the year 😂😂
Lewis could fight, he would knock out Wilder in the first round
Lennox Lewis might have been a boring talker, but he wasn't a boring boxer. One if not THE heavyweight goat.
Boxing been dying since Sly Stallone had that Contender show in 06
Boxing dying ? Vlad dont even know who Anthony Joshua Is, so can't blame him...... Heavyweight is the most exciting it's been for over a decade..... . AJ carried that division on his back the minute he turned pro, uniting all the belts. Fury came back from depression and took the WBC belt straight away from Wilder . Not to mention the others , Usyk, Ruiz n more.
Lmao yeah okay
@@michaeljohnsonboxingtalkan866 that fool trippin' ain't he?
@@urbanintelligents5899 AJ carried the division on his back? Yeah in the u.k cause they are nationalist, but never want to be wrong.
@@michaeljohnsonboxingtalkan866 hell yeah, most Americans didn't even know his name until talks of him and Wilder. Wilder carried the heavyweight division with his right hand across the globe. Even people in the UK knew about him. I still think Wilder is not as talented as most of the division, but he knocks fools out easy. More people know AJ from being knocked out by Ruiz than they do from him being a champ... FACTS
@@michaeljohnsonboxingtalkan866 Then he has the nerve to bring up Usyk in heavyweight... The fool had like 2 heavyweight fights, what is he talking about?
Vlad need to keep his mouth close on fighting. He press charges on Rozay
😂😂😂
How can these two sit there and say nobody knew who Lennox Lewis was? He is one of the greatest and well known heavyweights of all time. Also you may have that Wladimir Klitschko was boring, but he had one of the most dominant runs in the history of the heavyweight division.
Lenox Lewis is a gentleman outside of the ring, everyone I know here in vegas that ever ran into him had great things to say.
Is UFC really that big? I can't tell you anyone there except "Bones", McGregor and Stipe. Boxers make more money. Stars in boxing are bigger stars than UFC stars...except for personalities like McGregor. Boxing has stars like Canelo, Spence, Crawford, Lomachenko, Tank, Fury with young stars like Stevenson, Haney, Lopez, Ortiz, Benavidez, Beterbiev out there. I think Stipe is a star and Khabib is a star and "Bones" is a star but who else? They are alienating Cejudo. Another thing. I watched both Klitchko's careers and they were far from boring.
It's not! That's why I don't watch, I don't know any of the fighters
I’m a fan of both mma and boxing and I can tell you for a fact there a more bigger stars in the UFC right now than in boxing. There’s women’s fighters in the UFC that have more IG followers than male world champions in boxing
@@diamondlife8086 there women lol 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
They're *
Who's making more money?
I agree with MJW. I think it’s dying because the heavyweight division lacks an Ali, Frazier, Jack Johnson or Tyson. Fury, Joshua and Wilder are great fighters but don’t draw people in like the legends before them. People like drama, stories and strong personalities. Floyd is blockbuster but that weight class doesn’t bring the crowds like the big boys do. Plus his fighting style is too technical for the average fan to enjoy
if fury and joshua were american they would draw audience in the us like they do in the uk
Let's get Michael J White in one of these celebrity fights
He gone kick every one of they asses 🤣.
Boxing will never die.
It's funny how much this dude criticizes all these fighters but he's never made the walk
You're talking about you want a fighter with personality, and one that KOs his opponents and you don't even mention Deontay Wilder 🤔🤨
He's not really much of a personality though. He says the same 'preaching' bs over and over. Doesn't have much range In personality.
@Elton Francis I'm personally not looking for a personality. It's boxing. Yes, it's a nice change when one comes around and there is loads of hype around that person and they've got a great personality... But, I'm just admiring great boxing.
@@oliversavage5919 Um yes he is. Wilder may be cringy but he's still charismatic af. Plus no one delivers more devastating knockouts than him.
@Sly Boogy Bums don't win world titles.
@Sly Boogy Plus why is a nobody on RUclips calling him a bum anyway? Haha you're a joke.
Boxing has been doing fine... the top boxers get paid far more than the top MMA fighters. Also, the top events in boxing have more viewership... This is fact, people just don't do their research.
Broner’s last fight made 3x more than daniel cormier retirement fight.
@@edwardnigma9037 preach
@shall7277 Yeah the Top boxers make more money then the top MMA fighters 100% and it might always be like that but the average boxers dont make anything close to what the average mma fighters make and that is whats wrong with the sport of boxing, the fact that if you are not a star you don't know if you will get a fight yu might fight twice a year or you might fight once every 2 years but in mma most of the fighters fight 3 times a year which is in there contracts that allows them the keep living and training without struggling but in boxing the average boxers always get looked over
Wladimir Klitschko was a perfect technician, just like MJW says it should be in other interviews... Now he says he was an athlete who happened to fight, not a real fighter.... The guy can't make up his mind.
When did he say that Wlad was a perfect technician?
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I'm saying it... Jab, right hand, left hook - that's how you exactly how to execute it... His footwork flawless too, perfect balance & coordination, even though he was no mover like José Napoles by any means... Didn't have a heart like Holyfield by any means.
But technically he was like the perfect heavyweight.
Lennox Lewis wasnt a killer? He has some of the best Kos in heavyweight history. Not to mention some of the most entertaining fights his war with Ray Mercer and Vitali Klitschko. Him and Vitali went to war Lennox was undertrained and flabby and still found a way to dig deep and get that fight won. He showed tremendous character in the ring showed more heart than Mike Tyson ever did. Its not easy to retire saying u beat every man u ever faced. Very select few people on that list in history of boxing. Lennox was the most underappreciated champion. Only reason he didnt catch on in USA is because USA is Tyson mania and Lewis was a brit. Lewis was a masterful boxer with the all time great intangibles he was most talented big man to grace the sport.
He was more Canadian. He grew up in Canada, represented Canada at the "88 Olympics and it was Canada who taught him how to box. He left Canada, because he was sought by one of he best managers in the sport, let alone, it was his place of birth.
@@boxer6796 Born in UK. He was a traveling man with a dream. He went wherever he had to go to further his boxing career.
@@coltonw8686 Yes, only born in London, but doesn't mean that much.
@@boxer6796 I mean technically his descent is Jamaica so hes technically Jamaican where he currently lives.
@@coltonw8686 True, ( His Parents Birth) but Jamaica didn't do much for him, and never grew up there... He has houses in Jamaica, UK, Miami and Canada.
For me personally I like the fighters more who don't talk that much.
Same here especially Lewis and the Vitali.
Soooooo we just gonna skip over Wilder..?? I mean we are talking about personality right? In and outside the ring.. that's what we doing?? Okay..
@Sly Boogy ?? What??? 😂😂 Clearly you're not a boxing fan
@Sly Boogy Nothing of what you said is true lol. I'm not into arguing facts. Judging by you're logic I'm guessing you gotta be a Trump supporter lmao
@@ArtByChris10 Just because you got told facts, you automatically assume they’re Trump supporters? I don’t support politics at all, and I know you’re full of shit. Wilder is a bum. He made a million excuses for his loss against fury. Fact of the matter is, wilder got the fuck beat out of him. Whether you like it or not, wilder isn’t good for the sport of boxing. Wilder cherry picks hard, and makes up all sorts of lies.
Gamesmanship , standing out , promotion and Vegas/Atlantic City allure is missing from boxing IMO
Should be like 4 good major fights a year
UFC seems to make more fights
White should spar Klitschko and then tell how athletes are different from fighters.
Yeah Michael is the athlete that knows martial arts and can fight, but not a fighter, I wonder if he envys them.
Lennox was one of my favorite boxers! That dude plays chess when he boxes!
Facts. And the last undisputed Heavyweight championship.
Lennox Lewis, Felix Trinidad, and Roy Jones were my guys during the 90s
Vlad called Bellator "back yard stuff" lol
What Vlad and casuals want to watch is first round knoccouts and worldstar brawls boxing is an art and when 2 people are evenly matched it becomes a chess match. The reason Mike Tyson and Deontay Wilder are knoccing out people in the 1st or 2nd round is because they picced and chose Taxi Drivers. When they faced fierce competition all those 1 round knoccouts went out the window.
What are u talking about when Tyson got all three belts in the 80’s it went the distance except for one & that’s the first one
“I was actually there when Michael Jai White meet Lennox Lewis, a lot of people don’t know that.”
-TK Kirkland
Michael Jai White is supposed to be a martial artist and he's talking like a casual boxing fan. I expect that from Glad.
Jus cuz hes a martial artist its not mandatory for him to study all old boxing clips and shit lol. Boxing may not even be one of the many styles he is trained in. Im sure theres some guys doing MMA with zero boxing training involved.
The Lennox Lewis era of boxing was the greatest heavy weight era of all time. Just based on the high levels of talent in the division. Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, Tua, Bird, Ibeabuchi, Briggs, Grant, Moore, The Klitschkos, Sam Peter, Foreman, Rahman, Mercer all are from around that era more or less. And every fight felt like an event because anybody could beat anybody on any given night. Yeah there was always a "favorite" in terms of odds but upsets could and did happen frequently and that made it exciting. The early 90s to the early 2000s was an epic era in Heavyweight boxing.
While "greatest era of all time" is difficult to measure I agree with you about the roster. To me that was an awesome era. So many good names, good fights too. Couple that with HBO, which I personally am very nostalgic about. Good times
It's rare to find 2 people talking about boxing that actually know so little about the sport. The casual nature of their interest is blatant.
Plenty stars in boxing .. canelo , mayweather , spence , crawford , joshua , fury , ruiz , mikey garcia , pacman , ggg , gervonta davis , amir khan etc..
Outside of Mayweather and Canelo casual’s have no clue who these other names are
You forgot Ryan Garcia…
@@Lonelysportofboxing i said etc dumbass
@@1brolyy458 and wtf you gonna do about it besides bitch and moan😂
Vlad doesn't know 💩 about sports! 🤦🏾♂️
Lol did he hit your dead boxing spot ☠💀
Vlad admits he knows nothing about fighting.
Vlad saying Lennox Lewis wasn't a killer...Got to be the dumbest comment he's ever made...
The lack of a heavyweight/super heavyweight division is why boxing is dying people want to see heavyweight bouts
Lol how did they not mention deontay wilder he's the most outspoken with alot of personality a well known boxing warrior
Getting ass kicked by Fury didn’t help him. Yea he got personality but once he fought a real fighter dude got worked.
Nobody knows who Deontay Wilder is .He has to be the least famous heavy weight champ ever .
@@stevemd007 WHY do yall hate wilder so much cause he black fury a cheater and wilder only lost 1 fight in his career
@@y.t.gbankrolltv1056 Nobody knows who he is . lol Who said i hate him ? I didn't .
Wilder is not a big draw
This guy knows nothing about boxing. Who cares if a boxer is an athlete and not a fighter. As long as they can show and prove in the ring.
the problem is each Organization has like 3 diff belts for each weight class like champion, interim champion, diamond champion...its ridiculous. so with there being 4 organizations these days, you can have 12 diff people that are heavyweight champions!
Lennox was knocking guys out. What are they talking about.
Ask dude his thoughts on the hoodie awards when meet the browns roasted lavell crowford, and interrupted him and Tracy Ellis Ross from presenting the award.
Did he really skip deontay wilder
90s had the best boxing personalities Tyson , Robinson , Duran, Morrison
Middle weight era was on point, Vlad don't know wat he talking bout as usual . The Mosley, Trinidad De La Hoya, Quartey era. Leanord, Hagler, Hearns. Jones, Toney, Nunn, McCollum , boxing slowed down in Klitschkos reign admittedly but who wasn't feeling Ward v Gatti or Pacman arrival...Corrales vs Castillo, Tua vs Izon and Ibeabuchi cmon Vlad
Lennox Lewis is monster these guys really underestimate boxing it one of those sports u have to experience urself. Get in the ring on the regular.
Lennox is my favorite boxer of all time. He beat all the contenders of his era.
boxing is dying because the biggest fights just aren't gettin made. with UFC there are huge events every month where guys in the top 10 HAVE to fight each other and the champ MUST defend his belts or else he'll be stripped. with boxing no one HAS to do anything and so big fights rarely happen.
Lennox was a disciplined Boxer, very intelligent, probably didn't let anger get to him during a fight, that's why Floyd has been successfully doesn't let the adrenaline get to him, just fights
Boxing is just boring as shit.
People like you who never been in the ring would never understand It's chess bro not suppose to go in and trade punches like dummy, It's called boxing not the strongest fighter wins or the Fastest, The smartest fighter always wins boxing is very entertaining if you know what you're watching and if everything works, Casuals like you ruin everything sports, video games, food. It never ends with you guys.
@@flower98712 Nobody cares, stop writing essays. I'd beat you in a boxing match and in mma. Boxing is just boring to watch and that's why it's a dying sport.
These dudes just don't know what they are talking about . Have they actually watched these guys fight. Vitali Klitschko was a dog unlike Vlad he would scrap it out. As for Lewis go watch the Grant and Golota fights and tell me he didn't have any killer instinct. What about the Briggs fight did he play it safe there?
This is just a hunch but do you think they are saying this about them just because thier not Americans?
The problem with boxing is nobody fights anybody until they're past they're both prime
The top boxer will always make more than the top UFC fighter, because UFC fights are short + guys with cauliflower ear aren't pleasant to look at which takes down their marketability
How did he not mention BOOOOOOMMMMMBBBB SSSQQQQUUUAAAAAADDD
That’s what I’m say?! How you leave out the bronze bomber
Because he's trash
He's talking about personalities? Really? Did Floyd have one? He had an off putting one..Who in UFC other than Conor has one? Boxing is dying out because the best are not fighting the best, and all the politics and corruption. UFC is taking over because they have less of that and also its more of a real fighting art...
I like Michael jai white as a actor and martial artist
I keep hearing boxing is dying, yet boxers are making 400 million deals with streaming services, some of the top boxers in weight divisions have faced each other this year (vasyl lomachenko vs tefimo lopez, tyson fury vs deontaye wilder, and canelo vs. Callum Smith). 2 old veterans who haven't been in their prime in decades(tyson and jones) just did over 1.6 million ppv buys for an exhibition, and to get a 100 million dollar fight the biggest MMA star had to leave his sport and go over to boxing. For a dead sport it still seems like there's interest and alot of money in it.