Thanks for this in-depth exploration. There were things I did not like about the original TD50, but they seem to have been addressed in the X version (even down to details like being able to use the foot switch for a snare throw off). I have been playing Roland for many years, progressing from the TD7, TD5, TD20 and currently my TD30. Loved them all - at the time. I think the time is ripe to swap out my whole TD30 kit (built up over the years fully configured with 4 toms (2x10, 2x12), both AUX’s and a full complement of cymbals). Can’t go to the cost of a KV, but the K2 should see me right for a while.
Hey Raymond, it says that you wrote this about a year ago and having just bought a second hand T20 I was curious if you could answer a couple questions for me? It’s my first electronic kit as unfortunately my neighborhood meddlers have me relocating my acoustic ddrums to a more industrial area. First is my surprise the T20 had 4 out of 5 support bars for the toms and snare or do I have to buy a new Roland snare stand. Same with the high hat; no pedal or stand. Would my standard stands for both honestly help or hurt my sound and performance? Or do I have to deep dive for parts and where would I find them? Thank you for this lesson that will certainly help me once I figure out how to set the rest of this beast up, Thank you and hopefully this reaches you in good health and family! Dan Grayson
@@danielgrayson7789 Hi Daniel. Sorry, I only just saw your questions. My kit has been built up over the years, with brain swaps and triggers changing as I could afford them. Originally, I had the snare hung off of the frame, but then got a standard snare stand. Much better for getting the best playing position. Same for the HH. I just use a standard HH stand (compatible with the 11/12/13 HH mechanisms). Welcome to the TD20. I think it is a great module. Played it for 10 years. I only changed to the TD30 for one new feature and a couple of minor performance improvements in the TD30, that I needed for a project. Don’t let anyone run you down for playing E-Drums. They are a different instrument, like keyboard vs piano, or electric vs acoustic guitar. In the mix of a session, most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference. At a gig, it is great to be able to dial up a heavy rock kit, or Jazz sound for a particular song. Even more fun if you can use some of the percussion or special effects without having to buy and mount a Guiro, Cow Bell, or massive gong. Just map to the rim of a spare tom. Also, do play with the various trigger settings to make the kit feel like the way you play. A common complaint is that you have to use the body of a stick to play the bell on the ride. Nonsense. I can just tap with the tip - once I got the sensitivity and dynamics settings to match the way that I play. Who says that it has to feel like an acoustic kit? Not me. I actually do not like it when I have to play an acoustic kit that is shared at a gig. Can an acoustic drummer independently change the bounce and pitch of a tom? No. Have fun.
If I had the $$$, I'd go with the TD-50K2; I just like the smaller profile kick drum. Anyway, I love these videos, even though I can't afford these. Guess I'll have to do with my TD-07, for now... xD
Like the new snare sounds. The toms still seem to sound really fake but I'll reserve judgment until I hear more. Also here's hoping you added some unique sounds like electronic ones or mallet kits.
I love them for home practice. I’ve never been satisfied using them for live performance because of their limited volume dynamic control and the hassle of all the wires. For houses of worship I think they should be using these instead of isolating the drummer in a plexiglass cage. They’re fantastic for recording! I can record any drummer playing these and no matter how much they suck, I can take the midi data they generate and clean it up quickly with quantization and other midi tricks. I can’t be bothered with the work involved in using acoustic drums in the studio.
If I get a Roland TD50-K2 and decide to buy an additional 12” pad later to add on, would the module recognize it and then adapt the presets to the ones that the KD50V2 utilizes for the extra drum pad that it comes with? Or would I have to select a drum and tunes it to match whatever preset I am playing with
@RolandChannel at 7:04 it sounds like the snare and rim shots have a gated effect to them - is this normal or added processing just for the demonstration?
Would I be able to hook up an older Roland module and run it in slave mode and it still translates midi notes? Can I use booth the digital pad inputs while using the TRS analog pad inputs? Do I get a mixer for each direct output? Are the on board sounds real samples or the fake ones ?
It doesn't matter how nice the kit is when the drum sounds still don't sound like real acoustic drums. so people spend 8K on a kit and still have to use non Roland drum sounds to get a great sounding kit that sounds like a top notch acoustic kit. or they spend a life time trying to adjust the sounds it comes with to get them sounding close to real acoustic drums. no one cares about the zillion fake electronic sounds. there should be a hundred preset drum sets. and everyone of them should sound like a top of the line acoustic drum set right out of the box without any adjusting the module. and then people can adjust it more if they want something different. Rolland has been in this game for decades and still can't get it right.
La batería que usa BXS... Debo decir que ellos fueron los primeros en usarla por allá en los 2000... Después todos copiaron pero solo eso porque solo Juanito Guevara sabe usarla de verdad, ni siquiera Mauro Jr. ni a los talones de Juan...
Yep, machine gunning all over this kit. It’s a nice kit but not $6, 7, 8k nice lol. You are going to wind up using VSTs for recording so now you just paid almost 10k for a midi controller.
@@okjames2954 In 2021, this is totally unacceptable. This is their flagship module that costs an arm and a leg. This is the best they can do and they win the machine gun title with it. I seriously think some jobs are at risk at Roland's unless the decideurs are happy with this trophy.
Question Why do these modules not support VSTs after all these years of development? Answer , because a module that could support VSTs would simply blow everything out of the water making everything else an obsolete piece of out of date junk Hence cutting the developers own throats Hence it will not come from the main four developers A new drum module on the block with VST hook up will eventually come on the market and will be a game changer so look out big boys it's just a matter of time
I was considering a Roland V drum kit for my studio. Wasn't sure which one. Now I am!!!!
These look great! Electronic drums will completely take over once musicians can afford them.
Appreciate the feedback.
No I do not agree .. they will only completely take over when they have VST support until then it's not as good as an acoustic for feel
@@remaharman2598 yeah.. especially with things like the ride, it isn't the same
I think this drum is the best electronic drum set.-big fan of Roland-
Thanks for the love!
Would be great if Roland could do a video on recording to a daw from the TD50x with or without a band in a studio situation.
Wow I loooove it!!! 😃👍🏼
Wish I could play that set 😍😱 but I only have the Roland TD-1DMK.
Thanks for this in-depth exploration. There were things I did not like about the original TD50, but they seem to have been addressed in the X version (even down to details like being able to use the foot switch for a snare throw off).
I have been playing Roland for many years, progressing from the TD7, TD5, TD20 and currently my TD30. Loved them all - at the time.
I think the time is ripe to swap out my whole TD30 kit (built up over the years fully configured with 4 toms (2x10, 2x12), both AUX’s and a full complement of cymbals). Can’t go to the cost of a KV, but the K2 should see me right for a while.
Thank you for the feedback 🧡!
Hey Raymond, it says that you wrote this about a year ago and having just bought a second hand T20 I was curious if you could answer a couple questions for me? It’s my first electronic kit as unfortunately my neighborhood meddlers have me relocating my acoustic ddrums to a more industrial area.
First is my surprise the T20 had 4 out of 5 support bars for the toms and snare or do I have to buy a new Roland snare stand. Same with the high hat; no pedal or stand. Would my standard stands for both honestly help or hurt my sound and performance? Or do I have to deep dive for parts and where would I find them?
Thank you for this lesson that will certainly help me once I figure out how to set the rest of this beast up,
Thank you and hopefully this reaches you in good health and family!
Dan Grayson
@@danielgrayson7789 Hi Daniel. Sorry, I only just saw your questions. My kit has been built up over the years, with brain swaps and triggers changing as I could afford them. Originally, I had the snare hung off of the frame, but then got a standard snare stand. Much better for getting the best playing position. Same for the HH. I just use a standard HH stand (compatible with the 11/12/13 HH mechanisms). Welcome to the TD20. I think it is a great module. Played it for 10 years. I only changed to the TD30 for one new feature and a couple of minor performance improvements in the TD30, that I needed for a project. Don’t let anyone run you down for playing E-Drums. They are a different instrument, like keyboard vs piano, or electric vs acoustic guitar. In the mix of a session, most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference. At a gig, it is great to be able to dial up a heavy rock kit, or Jazz sound for a particular song. Even more fun if you can use some of the percussion or special effects without having to buy and mount a Guiro, Cow Bell, or massive gong. Just map to the rim of a spare tom. Also, do play with the various trigger settings to make the kit feel like the way you play. A common complaint is that you have to use the body of a stick to play the bell on the ride. Nonsense. I can just tap with the tip - once I got the sensitivity and dynamics settings to match the way that I play. Who says that it has to feel like an acoustic kit? Not me. I actually do not like it when I have to play an acoustic kit that is shared at a gig. Can an acoustic drummer independently change the bounce and pitch of a tom? No. Have fun.
If I had the $$$, I'd go with the TD-50K2; I just like the smaller profile kick drum.
Anyway, I love these videos, even though I can't afford these.
Guess I'll have to do with my TD-07, for now... xD
Like the new snare sounds. The toms still seem to sound really fake but I'll reserve judgment until I hear more. Also here's hoping you added some unique sounds like electronic ones or mallet kits.
Just ordered one 😬
I've two CY-14C Crash, a CY-15R ride, a VH12 Hi-Hat and PD125 pads... Are them supported with the TD-50X?
I love them for home practice. I’ve never been satisfied using them for live performance because of their limited volume dynamic control and the hassle of all the wires. For houses of worship I think they should be using these instead of isolating the drummer in a plexiglass cage. They’re fantastic for recording! I can record any drummer playing these and no matter how much they suck, I can take the midi data they generate and clean it up quickly with quantization and other midi tricks. I can’t be bothered with the work involved in using acoustic drums in the studio.
How can there be no bell sensor in the hi-hat but have cymbal muting?
Man I wish I could buy that
If I get a Roland TD50-K2 and decide to buy an additional 12” pad later to add on, would the module recognize it and then adapt the presets to the ones that the KD50V2 utilizes for the extra drum pad that it comes with? Or would I have to select a drum and tunes it to match whatever preset I am playing with
+RolandChannel *My ideal studio input set would consist of the following hardware to feed the TD-50X:*
(1) RDT-SV
(1) MDS-Stage
(4) MDH-Stage
(2) KD-180L-BK
(2) KDB-200
(2) RDH-100
(2) PD-125BK
(2) PD-105BK
(2) PD-85BK
(1) PD-128-BC
(1) VH-13
(1) RDH-120
(1) CY-18DR
(1) CY-16R-T
(1) CY-14C-T
(1) PD-108-BC
(1) FS-6 (in Unlatch mode)
Thanks for the feedback!
@RolandChannel at 7:04 it sounds like the snare and rim shots have a gated effect to them - is this normal or added processing just for the demonstration?
Would I be able to hook up an older Roland module and run it in slave mode and it still translates midi notes? Can I use booth the digital pad inputs while using the TRS analog pad inputs? Do I get a mixer for each direct output? Are the on board sounds real samples or the fake ones ?
Please, bring to Brazil, modul TD-50
Does this module have a lot of genre specific preset patterns.?
It doesn't matter how nice the kit is when the drum sounds still don't sound like real acoustic drums. so people spend 8K on a kit and still have to use non Roland drum sounds to get a great sounding kit that sounds like a top notch acoustic kit. or they spend a life time trying to adjust the sounds it comes with to get them sounding close to real acoustic drums. no one cares about the zillion fake electronic sounds. there should be a hundred preset drum sets. and everyone of them should sound like a top of the line acoustic drum set right out of the box without any adjusting the module. and then people can adjust it more if they want something different. Rolland has been in this game for decades and still can't get it right.
Well said sir.
Hola Roland , como puedo hacer para conseguir esa máquina? Soy de Argentina.
Snare looks Monstrous and the last tom looks like a different colour? But I guess that's intentional.
Thanks for the feedback!
La batería que usa BXS... Debo decir que ellos fueron los primeros en usarla por allá en los 2000... Después todos copiaron pero solo eso porque solo Juanito Guevara sabe usarla de verdad, ni siquiera Mauro Jr. ni a los talones de Juan...
Will you send me one? ;)
I literally asked Sweetwater If I could have it for free and that I would promote it
6:40 Machine gun
Yep, machine gunning all over this kit. It’s a nice kit but not $6, 7, 8k nice lol. You are going to wind up using VSTs for recording so now you just paid almost 10k for a midi controller.
@@okjames2954 In 2021, this is totally unacceptable. This is their flagship module that costs an arm and a leg. This is the best they can do and they win the machine gun title with it. I seriously think some jobs are at risk at Roland's unless the decideurs are happy with this trophy.
Question Why do these modules not support VSTs after all these years of development?
Answer , because a module that could support VSTs would simply blow everything out of the water making everything else an obsolete piece of out of date junk Hence cutting the developers own throats
Hence it will not come from the main four developers
A new drum module on the block with VST hook up will eventually come on the market and will be a game changer so look out big boys it's just a matter of time
Enjoyability …?
I don’t enjoy the amount of wiring at all ….what year is this ? Give me a single plug in into the head unit !!!!
all these videos have too much talking. We want to see it in action!!!
Appreciate the feedback.
Watch this video for the sounds: ruclips.net/video/TCO9xMPgpjQ/видео.html
lo habéis petao con esta batera... traduce esto google.. traduce petao
Pearl Mimic Pro has real drum sounds. Not synth.
話ばかりが長いんだよ。
どんどん叩けよ。
Appreciate the feedback.