@@michaelschack You certainly put that assertion to the test in this video. In that sense Roland should be very happy with your review. That said, I would like to see another player with a light touch work with it to ascertain how responsive it is to highly nuanced playing and a wider dynamic range of hits. Toms are easy, snares harder, and hi-hat triggering is the toughest nut to crack for e-drums to emulate properly.
@@edwardx.winston5744 you can play with your fingers and there’s huge dynamic range more than most ever put into a recording or live performance. Published music is crushed with no dynamics left because of the volume wars. Michael is an absolute master player with incredible technique so he’s playing with power as he does because he plays like it’s his last like all great performers do. You have to try one, the sensitivity and expression is beyond compare for an electric instrument.
I can watch Michael play all day. He's incredible! Very inspiring. Makes me want to go play my TD50X. Be cool to be able to purchase his song mixes. Thank you sir for the demo.
The snare strainer thing is absolutly gamechangeching. It seems like such a small thing, but this feeela soooooo more real than any roland kit i ever heard!! They were always the best to play anyway, i was just missing a bit of realism, but this might to it to be honest, im reall impressed!
OMG!!!! I had never even heard of this gentleman before today, but I sure won't ever forget him now!! The way he beat the brakes off these drums makes me question if I should even refer to him as a gentleman at all because he was downright abusive to those drums! LMAO!! Wow!! This was some of the most enjoyment I've ever had watching anybody play electronic drums. I am sold on these things and I love the color. As far as the music goes, it was an awesome listen.
Finally ROland makes a kit with realistic-sounding toms. One area of note that is never mentioned where touchscreens are concerned is accessibility. There are blind drummers, myself included, and we do want to play eDrums. But we're being left behind by all eDrum manufacturers. I've been working on this for years and sadly nobody, Roland included, is willing to implement accessibility features directly into the module even when the offer is there to develop it for them for free, so we still can't access most features of the module without memorising every menu. However at least Roland haven't taken the buttons away. Is the app fully comprehensive, I.E can it control every single feature and setting possible on the module or are there still instances where you'd need to use the module interface? Are the apps platform native, or written in some cross-platform language so they too won't support assistive software?
I'm colorblind and told Boss and Roland to simply change the color of the lights so it's not green and red like 90% of color blind people are, and I still doubt I'll see a change in that. All their amps and pedals have these colors, so I can't use them live. Luckily there's other great companies out there !
Michael Schack!! Mate ... at 7:24 you said you made a mistake ... well .... you make tasty mistakes my friend... because I didn't even notice. Loved this video! Loving what I see in this superb Roland kit. Truly a new era.
@michaelschack yes have to agree as well. I was eyeing up a DW kit, but I play on a Roland TD-17 KV2. Love the look of the model you played on. And it sounds incredible! great demo of this for sure. And I could see you were having loads of fun playing. Like I would if I had something like this. Have to start saving my pennies. I've only been playing for not quite 2 yrs yet and wish I started when I was 9yr old. Thanks again, I truly enjoyed this.
I like the new screen and the sounds are much better. If they could get the price in a more reasonable range, that would be the clincher. Good point about buttons versus touchscreen. You have excellent drumming technique and I love your hi hat work Michael.
These are exciting times. Going from pressing keys to touching a screen. From a landline to a small mobile phone. From a computer to a cell phone, which can even make videos. From taking 36 photos and waiting, to thousands of instant clicks. Even drums with such technology. I am fascinated and excited by what there is and what is coming. Let's keep dreaming! Everything is possible! A warm hug to everyone who reads and is amazed by the great things in life! 🙌
cymbal missed a choke. small beans, but a digital crash cymbal would be easier to choke. need bell zones on crashes and hihat. other than the nit picking- sounds really good. triggering looks superb and module is expandable. i like it. ill get one after the bug fixes ect- common on electronics this advanced.
No, I missed. 😅 The digital hh has incredible zone detection with this new one. Thanks for commenting/appreciating in such a positive way. You can actually go ahead already - no bugs, lots of ‘funs’ all ready 🙏👊
The one should have been equipped with touch screen and control knobs anyways. Also, it is still not clear if rim click/cross stick sound is possible to get by its own if you strike head and rim( hoop) simultaneously. Usually there’s priority of one zone prior over the other which is no right thing . To me, it’s a major aspect when it comes to a snare drum. Overall, I’m glad a new product hits the market!
I agree !!!! That's what a rim shot is !!! Both hit at the same time and it gives you that high ringing, like in reggae music. I've been trying to get that sound on my TD27 and digital snare, but it's just not even close to the same as acoustic. I love harmonics on acoustic snares. It seems like an easy solution.... When you hit the rim and head at the same time, you can choose the type of high pitched ringing ??? Right ? I hope that's addressed on this new module, otherwise, they didn't really move the needle far in my opinion.
I've recently changed all my VAD shells to the DWe wireless shells & use the USB adapter via TD50x. Have you tested the new V71 with DWe & if so, is this a better option than trying to use a laptop and Audio Interface for soundworks live?
yes, yes and yes. DW Soundworks integrated into the V-71, with Wifi connectivity some Soundworks content also directly downlaodable into the available expansion slots…
binging all the previews for this lol will be getting the new module and snare as i already have a fully upgraded tama conversion...just replace the old stuff! glad they kept the buttons and added an improved screen, buttons ftw. disappointed that there is no 20" digital ride tho. maybe down the line...
Thanks for the super inspiring comment! Just start combining your fav music bits/samples that have been inspiring you and have fun with them playing along from an spdsx. You’ll come up with your own versions, evolve to sampling packs and maybe your own full olayalong backing tracks. For music production, I use Ableton. For musical abuse, I use drumsticks 😅
I am still rocking my good old TD-12 😅 I actually think this new drum set and module are quite a cool upgrade, however I don’t see myself spending that much money on just an upgrade
TD-17 here; tracked my latest EP with it (just original stereo audio to my DAW!) and gigging constantly on the kit. No need to upgrade till it konks out, far as I'm concerned!
Not a fan of Roland past but it took him a long time but I think they finally nailed it 100%.. You were association with DW combine with their tech and durability I think it’s produced the pinnacle of drums for the next five years. Every other company has already come out with their updates andnothing comes close. Unfortunately it’s very expensive but it is the best. Every video I’ve seen proves it. No machine gun whatsoever
@@michaelschack HI Michael, I did but still seemed to be quite a rocky version :) anyway, nobody does that better, and always have a blast watching you play. cheers!
Yeah they’re pricing on this kit is outrageous. I’m looking for my next upgrade and for 3500 I can get a full Tama kit, mics, gig bags, mod shelf zildjians, and all the hardware. 9k is disappointing
Liking this new line up a lot, but why still no 14" tom for the V713 or V716? Can't be that hard to make. I'm using a PD140DS as my 'floor' tom to get a more realistic feel, as haven't got space to be lugging around the VAD style toms- although they look great!
Roland has the best kits/modules, sounds are better than before but in 2024 still have that machine gun triggering going on. I don't understand, but ok there is so much awesome software nowadays like SD3.
I’ve been playing like this professionally since 1991. And happy to say I’ve never had any shoulder, neck, wrist, knee or back issues. NONE. And I even perform standing up straight for my solo #djdrummer live drums shows. Yes, it’s a workout, but in my case a healthy musical one. And…I’m 58 today 🥳
@@avalosoundI’m generally curious.. I’ve played drums like this since I was 5 I am 34 now with no issues and never any pain while playing.. What makes it look painful? I’m actually curious what you mean
This infinite upgrade path for electronic drums isn't sustainable. Who wants to drop 9K for a kit that will be obsolete in 3-4 years if not sooner? Then you're going to buy another 9K kit? Don't get me wrong, I have a Roland electronic kit for recording (with SD) and practicing but I'm absolutely NOT shelling out 9K when I could spend that same money on a DW acoustic (or similar) that doesn't need 'upgrades.' This is just insane.
With Roland, older Roland pads/sets always stay compatible when a module is renewed or re-invented. TD-50 came out in Sept 2016, that’s 8 years ago…and was/still is software wise upgradable to the X version. So no full cost ever.
obsolete? i know people still using 15 year old roland kits with ez drummer 3 lmfao its about build quality with roland and re sale ability 5 year old used roland kits still sell close to store price for a reason
It's easy to make a v drum sound by banging and rocking. But the quality must be seen with other genres with light strokes, with nuances, with different dynamics. Have we arrived at the correct sound of the brushes? How's it going with pop? With this video, beautiful, but too harsh, i don't understand the profound quality of the drums, and the "new" sounds, which have always been Roland's limits
@@michaelschack Kind of, I’ve had a TD-50, TD-27 and TD-12 before that. Now I mostly play a Yamaha DTX-Pro X. In my experience Roland’s playability is really good but the sounds are lacking behind VST’s like SD3 or EZdrummer.
Check out the DWe. But cables ALWAYS work in a professional situation, especially in packed clubs and venues where there’s lots of wireless devices and buzzzzzzzzz frequencies 😉
Man, those things sound HUGE! Now, If I can only talk Elon Musk into adopting me, I'll buy a set! BTW, did I understand you to say "samples"? And not synthetic sounds?
Correct, but there’s a even specific drumsynth built in which you can layer randomly with all internal and external sounds. As if you own your own top notch drum recording studio 🥳
@ I don't buy the arguement of the sweaty hands. It's cheaper to produce. As simple as that. But for a high end product as this one it should knobs AND touch. So everytime you should set up a computer to set up sounds? Touch is more convenient. The kits are used in studio, practising AND Live. If i set up sounds i dont have very sweaty hands. There would have been a chance to do both, touch and knobs🤷🏻♂️ on headrush pedalboards it works perfect.
Touchscreens are cost-cutting measure at best. It gave flexibility to the UI designer of course, but think about for a second.... if the UX is well thought out would you really need that flexibility ?? And of course it's error prone and will be quite erratic performing live. Instead of having touchscreens, just let the user connect to it with a tablet would be better choice. Stil that can't beat real buttons and sliders.
I have to say I'm a little disappointed with the dynamics of these built in sounds, still missing the soul you get from Superior Drummer 3, just get the TD-50x and run those samples through a USB into the the TD-50x module
Go check these out first, bring your own headphones and laptop, compare to your favorite vst, and then…be amazed on how incredibly more dynamic the V-71 makes you feel while playing. It will really surprise you. I know not everyone is a hard hitter like me…
You’ll find they have far more dynamics than any VST. VSTs use MIDI v1 still which is 7bit and only 0-127 and 16 layers of dynamics only whereas the processing engine in V-Drums has 16000 steps of resolution along with positional, interval and left and right hand sensing. There’s even hi-res midi built in for when software catches up one day. Try a kit to experience it. Soundworks has 18 dynamic layers x 8 variation and 5 mics per instrument so fantastic to use too and feels realtime with the V71 driver. It’s very impressive.
Great drummer, great kit but over priced for us normal folk. Inc a third crash, splash and China would of been a nice touch like efnotes pro 507 complete kit.
As I know Chad personally, he didn't ever tell me that to my face. We actually appreciate each other's style a lot:) It's not "wasted" motion, it's motivated personal enjoyment. To each his own
Someone will knock it off cheaper. They have to because the masses of drummers who crave this cant afford it especially in this economy. Its funny when electronic drums started the thing was they looked different along with the tech. But end of the day an acoustic kit is a work of art so its cool to mimick. Had to be.
It will be difficult for any other brand to beat this quality, hardware included. That's why you'll find Roland on the main stages (look at how many SPD-SX sampling pads you see there), V-Drums included. Many have been able to afford - the hardware quality also plays a big role in their choices - and make money as a drummer with those. Look at how many musicians are using a Mac...despite the price. So no, none other brand will knock this kind of quality "cheaper", as cheaper stands for less endurance and quality. These instruments are suited to be hit hard and loud.
You can have any hh sound you like. There are many brands built in and in the packs and you can change mic position, cymbal thickness, attack and release, eq, compression etc etc and if still not happy record your own and layer it up in Soundworks that comes with it. You can record 18 layers with 8 unique hits per layer using 5 mics per instrument so you can recreate any sound exactly as you like it.
echt geen hond kan iets met deze review/reclame het zegt helemaal niks over dynamiek (als hij al weet wat het is), het zegt niks over de sound, want het is 1 grote storm van sounds. Leuke show en dat is het.
I use the TD50x for external events drumming, and I use Superior Drummer 3 and DW SoundWorks in my home studio when recording drum covers in midi format to my DAW. The ability for people now to have the amazing SoundFont kits and play them live on stage without the need for a dedicated laptop is simple amazing for them! that and the many other improvements around the module and the kits.
You don’t need it actually. Soundworks comes with it and you can build your own sample library in Soundworks if you want because it’s open source. Sample your fave percussion and build your own library. 18 layers of dynamics x 8 x 5 mics
@@DAnthony14 I agree, when you consider all the different instrument sounds, overhead sounds/mics, room sounds, it's basically a completely drum recording package. Even if you went with an acoustic kit, you'd still spend a pretty penny once you factor in cymbals, mics, stands, and of course a nice sounding room to record in. If you're not going to record with it I don’t see the point, but these kits are very capable creation tools when you put the time in to learn the module fully.
@@Scolecite why would I want to pay for this? I was hoping they're going to release something that's on par with the Mimic Pro, or at least the sounds of the Strata Prime. Too bad, it's a missed opportunity imo
Go check it out, bring your own sticks and headphones, come to a demo clinic. I’ll prove you’re actually wrong, except for the fact that my drumming technique is not always very dynamic 😉
![The AWESOME new Roland VAD716 V-Drums Kit [Product Demo]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bmW2ygdx62E/mqdefault.jpg)
That dude beat this Roland kit like it owed him money.
I've been playing Roland since end of 1992 because it's the only brand that you can really play & hit like an acoustic.
@@michaelschack You certainly put that assertion to the test in this video. In that sense Roland should be very happy with your review.
That said, I would like to see another player with a light touch work with it to ascertain how responsive it is to highly nuanced playing and a wider dynamic range of hits. Toms are easy, snares harder, and hi-hat triggering is the toughest nut to crack for e-drums to emulate properly.
@@edwardx.winston5744 Thanks!!
@@edwardx.winston5744 you can play with your fingers and there’s huge dynamic range more than most ever put into a recording or live performance. Published music is crushed with no dynamics left because of the volume wars. Michael is an absolute master player with incredible technique so he’s playing with power as he does because he plays like it’s his last like all great performers do. You have to try one, the sensitivity and expression is beyond compare for an electric instrument.
Those drums are the best they are very responsive
Finally someone who’s not afraid to play their electric kit hard!
Great video mate!
Thank you!
Getting my VAD716 in few days!
Michael is the machine.
Always a pleasure watching him ripping Roland skins!
How many rooms you have😂?
@JustanEdrummer plenty😆😆
I can watch Michael play all day. He's incredible!
Very inspiring. Makes me want to go play my TD50X.
Be cool to be able to purchase his song mixes.
Thank you sir for the demo.
took the words right out of my mouth
My man, Michael I think is already 20 years representing v-drums.
Loyal.
Thanks! I actually started doing Roland drum demos in Benelux end of 1992 :)
Having fun while you are playing is what it’s all about. Inspiring and drums sound great!
The snare strainer thing is absolutly gamechangeching. It seems like such a small thing, but this feeela soooooo more real than any roland kit i ever heard!! They were always the best to play anyway, i was just missing a bit of realism, but this might to it to be honest, im reall impressed!
Playing drums keeps him young and healthy! Go Michael!
Thanks - doing my best :)
OMG!!!! I had never even heard of this gentleman before today, but I sure won't ever forget him now!! The way he beat the brakes off these drums makes me question if I should even refer to him as a gentleman at all because he was downright abusive to those drums! LMAO!! Wow!! This was some of the most enjoyment I've ever had watching anybody play electronic drums. I am sold on these things and I love the color. As far as the music goes, it was an awesome listen.
Thank you so much for the very inspiring appreciation/comment! I hope we can meet in person one day.
Finally ROland makes a kit with realistic-sounding toms. One area of note that is never mentioned where touchscreens are concerned is accessibility. There are blind drummers, myself included, and we do want to play eDrums. But we're being left behind by all eDrum manufacturers. I've been working on this for years and sadly nobody, Roland included, is willing to implement accessibility features directly into the module even when the offer is there to develop it for them for free, so we still can't access most features of the module without memorising every menu. However at least Roland haven't taken the buttons away. Is the app fully comprehensive, I.E can it control every single feature and setting possible on the module or are there still instances where you'd need to use the module interface? Are the apps platform native, or written in some cross-platform language so they too won't support assistive software?
They had to they were pushed up till now I thought the mimic was the best
i still hear a minor machinegun sound on fills.
I'm colorblind and told Boss and Roland to simply change the color of the lights so it's not green and red like 90% of color blind people are, and I still doubt I'll see a change in that.
All their amps and pedals have these colors, so I can't use them live.
Luckily there's other great companies out there !
i was 100% sure that first comment will start with finally :D
Keyboards are going the exact same way and it is so frustrating
Michael Schack!! Mate ... at 7:24 you said you made a mistake ... well .... you make tasty mistakes my friend... because I didn't even notice. Loved this video! Loving what I see in this superb Roland kit. Truly a new era.
damn can feel the intensity through the screen dureing that intro play ., good job!
Thank you very much!
@@michaelschack is it possible to obtain the backing track?? I would pay good money for that!
5K would be my limit on a kit like this.
Wonderful demonstration! I was considering efnote but roland is back in the game now!
🙏👊
@michaelschack yes have to agree as well. I was eyeing up a DW kit, but I play on a Roland TD-17 KV2. Love the look of the model you played on. And it sounds incredible! great demo of this for sure. And I could see you were having loads of fun playing. Like I would if I had something like this. Have to start saving my pennies. I've only been playing for not quite 2 yrs yet and wish I started when I was 9yr old. Thanks again, I truly enjoyed this.
HELLO WHERE CAN I FIND THE MS SOCLOSELY AND ORCHESTRAL KITS AS IN THE VIDEO PLEASE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER?
Amazing new drum by Roland! Congrats! And Michael you are a Beast in good way.
Thank you very much!
Love this guys violent playing style!
Thank you!
I like the new screen and the sounds are much better. If they could get the price in a more reasonable range, that would be the clincher. Good point about buttons versus touchscreen. You have excellent drumming technique and I love your hi hat work Michael.
@@ianmclean5541 Thank you Ian!
These are exciting times. Going from pressing keys to touching a screen. From a landline to a small mobile phone. From a computer to a cell phone, which can even make videos. From taking 36 photos and waiting, to thousands of instant clicks. Even drums with such technology.
I am fascinated and excited by what there is and what is coming. Let's keep dreaming! Everything is possible!
A warm hug to everyone who reads and is amazed by the great things in life!
🙌
Exactly! Thanks for commenting!
@michaelschack 😊
the kit needs a smoke after this demo ... came to hear the review stayed for the awesome drumming thanks !
Thank YOU for the inspiring comment!
Michael is back! Let's gooooooooo!!!
I’ve never been away, but true, it’s been a while since the release of TD-50 & 50X. Thanks for the appreciation!
BEST DRUM REVIEW EVER! WHAT? BEST REVIEW EVER!!
Thank you very much - kudos to the Andertons video team!!
Bad ass drummer
Thanks!
Is there room to plug in more cymbals or toms?
cymbal missed a choke. small beans, but a digital crash cymbal would be easier to choke. need bell zones on crashes and hihat. other than the nit picking- sounds really good. triggering looks superb and module is expandable. i like it. ill get one after the bug fixes ect- common on electronics this advanced.
No, I missed. 😅 The digital hh has incredible zone detection with this new one.
Thanks for commenting/appreciating in such a positive way. You can actually go ahead already - no bugs, lots of ‘funs’ all ready 🙏👊
@@michaelschack your drumming and song writing are superb btw.
@@bruceperkins2921Thank you!!
There are no bugs. It’s totally rock solid and you ever have to think about problems, just play.
The one should have been equipped with touch screen and control knobs anyways. Also, it is still not clear if rim click/cross stick sound is possible to get by its own if you strike head and rim( hoop) simultaneously. Usually there’s priority of one zone prior over the other which is no right thing . To me, it’s a major aspect when it comes to a snare drum. Overall, I’m glad a new product hits the market!
The last thing I want to be doing in a live setting is trying to touch buttons on a touch screen while playing.
Also they are just laggy as hell.
I agree !!!!
That's what a rim shot is !!!
Both hit at the same time and it gives you that high ringing, like in reggae music.
I've been trying to get that sound on my TD27 and digital snare, but it's just not even close to the same as acoustic.
I love harmonics on acoustic snares.
It seems like an easy solution....
When you hit the rim and head at the same time, you can choose the type of high pitched ringing ???
Right ?
I hope that's addressed on this new module, otherwise, they didn't really move the needle far in my opinion.
I mean, you press a bunch of notes at the same time on a piano keyboard....lol
Why not on the snare and rim ?
@@FrostedJrexactly!!
@@laptoples Couldn’t agree more on this. I play Brazilian music which involves a lot of rim click along with rim shots etc.
mind.... BLOWN!
🙏🙏🙏
Hello, where do you find your personal sounds please can you give me a link thank you.
Would I be able to connect this model to my VAD 706 and get the same sound? 🤔
Yes! Apart from the snare strainer functionality…you need the PD-14DSX
Hello, I would like to buy your kits for Roland V71 like the video but I don't know where to find them. Can you give me a link for this, thank you.
And, what do they cost $87,000,000? It is Roland
Much less than you think 😉
@@michaelschack 10k minimum I'd say
How loud are they? Would it be ok for an apartment? Currently have Alesis strike Pro SE
I've recently changed all my VAD shells to the DWe wireless shells & use the USB adapter via TD50x. Have you tested the new V71 with DWe & if so, is this a better option than trying to use a laptop and Audio Interface for soundworks live?
yes, yes and yes. DW Soundworks integrated into the V-71, with Wifi connectivity some Soundworks content also directly downlaodable into the available expansion slots…
binging all the previews for this lol will be getting the new module and snare as i already have a fully upgraded tama conversion...just replace the old stuff! glad they kept the buttons and added an improved screen, buttons ftw. disappointed that there is no 20" digital ride tho. maybe down the line...
Nice to see Michael again...He always play if the drumset owns him money 😅
haha, thanks Hans!!
This guy is a mad player!
And I LOVE IT!
Thank you!!
Damn this kit sounds realistic
Wow, i love this guy! Michael how can i learn to develop my own music to play too. Seems to me like you have so much going.
Thanks for the super inspiring comment! Just start combining your fav music bits/samples that have been inspiring you and have fun with them playing along from an spdsx. You’ll come up with your own versions, evolve to sampling packs and maybe your own full olayalong backing tracks.
For music production, I use Ableton. For musical abuse, I use drumsticks 😅
Hello! just wondering... What kind of sticks are you using. Love those. And are the light weight?
Thanks for asking. These are Pro Mark Active Grip 5B Rebound sticks. I use just the same or 5B Forwards on my acoustic drums. ProMark rules!
Is Michael Schack included in the price?
😅 Possibly… How much are you offering?
I am still rocking my good old TD-12 😅 I actually think this new drum set and module are quite a cool upgrade, however I don’t see myself spending that much money on just an upgrade
Td-9 here. Still rocks!
22 year old TD-8KV here. Never gone wrong, and still all the original parts! 😂
TD-17 here; tracked my latest EP with it (just original stereo audio to my DAW!) and gigging constantly on the kit. No need to upgrade till it konks out, far as I'm concerned!
Expanded TD-10 here!
TD-6V here. Have tweaked the heck out of it & play it live with tons of compliments on how good it actually sounds.
Not a fan of Roland past but it took him a long time but I think they finally nailed it 100%.. You were association with DW combine with their tech and durability I think it’s produced the pinnacle of drums for the next five years. Every other company has already come out with their updates andnothing comes close. Unfortunately it’s very expensive but it is the best. Every video I’ve seen proves it. No machine gun whatsoever
Thanks for the appreciation!
great demo. these obviously work and sound great when pounding them as demonstrated here, but what about jazz & funk?
Did you watch the Take 5 version I’m playing as a second song? Going Jazz right there!
@@michaelschack HI Michael, I did but still seemed to be quite a rocky version :) anyway, nobody does that better, and always have a blast watching you play. cheers!
@@WoodyPianoShack Thanks for the kind appreciation!!
Can I use v71 module with VAD506?
Absolutely they are all compatible.
Yes!! All sets/pads are backwards compatible, but you will need the new PD-14DSX for that cool new snare strainer function 😉
@@michaelschack I know…. The struggle never ends haha - mo money 💰
Are the recoded sounds straight from the module with no post production editing? Where they recorded as individual tracks or as a L/R mix?
If I save up a couple K more, I might have a deposit for a house.
@@DrTomoculus boring 🤣 I’d rather sleep in the kick get up and play
Yeah they’re pricing on this kit is outrageous. I’m looking for my next upgrade and for 3500 I can get a full Tama kit, mics, gig bags, mod shelf zildjians, and all the hardware. 9k is disappointing
No matter roland what, Master Schack is always the best!
Thank you very much!
There’s obviously a lot of broke ass drummers making snide comments who could never afford this brilliant instrument…myself included 😎❤️
So true... hehe
The price is too high, even for me and I can easily buy 5 😊
What was the name of the first song you played?
Thanks for asking : Professional Funka’, a brand new version/mix of a Groovemania song I co-wrote back in 1993 🙈
@@michaelschackhaha you weren’t expecting THAT from Micheal, were ya?
@@michaelschack Unfortunately I can't find the song. I tried everything. or can you not find this song on the internet?
Liking this new line up a lot, but why still no 14" tom for the V713 or V716? Can't be that hard to make. I'm using a PD140DS as my 'floor' tom to get a more realistic feel, as haven't got space to be lugging around the VAD style toms- although they look great!
hello, where can i found all these great sound for the spd ?
Sorry, you can't. SPD has two layers, V-71 has three with independent transients and IQs
Is it silent?
yes!
Pearl Mimic Pro ftw.
Machine gunning is still noticeable. Come on Roland 🙈
INSANE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!!
Micheal is on Boham level!
Thanks for the compliment!
Roland has the best kits/modules, sounds are better than before but in 2024 still have that machine gun triggering going on. I don't understand, but ok there is so much awesome software nowadays like SD3.
Great set but the kick is a KD-10, why??
That's not a KD-10, it's a full new VAD kick
I’m not sure how long you’ve been playing with this technique but there’s no way you don’t have shoulder elbow and or wrist issues playing like that 😮
I’ve been playing like this professionally since 1991. And happy to say I’ve never had any shoulder, neck, wrist, knee or back issues. NONE. And I even perform standing up straight for my solo #djdrummer live drums shows. Yes, it’s a workout, but in my case a healthy musical one. And…I’m 58 today 🥳
@@michaelschack God bless you! It looks painful 😓
People with such issues are usually unfit and/or fat. Are you fat?
Michael is the goat! Danku well man! Greetings from Munich 😁
@@avalosoundI’m generally curious.. I’ve played drums like this since I was 5 I am 34 now with no issues and never any pain while playing..
What makes it look painful? I’m actually curious what you mean
This infinite upgrade path for electronic drums isn't sustainable. Who wants to drop 9K for a kit that will be obsolete in 3-4 years if not sooner? Then you're going to buy another 9K kit? Don't get me wrong, I have a Roland electronic kit for recording (with SD) and practicing but I'm absolutely NOT shelling out 9K when I could spend that same money on a DW acoustic (or similar) that doesn't need 'upgrades.' This is just insane.
You can always buy an acoustic DW 50th Anniversary Edge Snare Limited Edition for $ 4800 😀
With Roland, older Roland pads/sets always stay compatible when a module is renewed or re-invented. TD-50 came out in Sept 2016, that’s 8 years ago…and was/still is software wise upgradable to the X version. So no full cost ever.
I’d rather have me some Sonor or Noble & Cooley over DW anyday…
obsolete? i know people still using 15 year old roland kits with ez drummer 3 lmfao its about build quality with roland and re sale ability 5 year old used roland kits still sell close to store price for a reason
If you really like the kit and how it sounds and operates, you don’t need to buy a new model!
Gooooooooood morning
Would be nice to hear the drums.
Put the volume up! 😉
I only bout a TD50x module a while ago :( can't afford another 2.5k :(
Thanks for getting a TD50X, it will stand the test of time as it’s still a powerful and relevant module.
@@michaelschackthink my td-9 is still powerful?
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I still like it.
@@michaelschack yes, but the new one is so nice :)
It's easy to make a v drum sound by banging and rocking. But the quality must be seen with other genres with light strokes, with nuances, with different dynamics. Have we arrived at the correct sound of the brushes? How's it going with pop? With this video, beautiful, but too harsh, i don't understand the profound quality of the drums, and the "new" sounds, which have always been Roland's limits
Come and join one of my demos. And check out the Take Five version again in this clip - soft to loud dynamics really happening!
Somehow I feel like some of the previous generation owners are getting mad as this is a massive upgrade.
Maybe but the new releases drive the price down on older technology that is still amazing
loved this kit til I saw the price xD
For 1/3 the price of this you could buy a nice Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute kit that'll sound and feel 100% better.
But…is that you saying this from knowledge? Did you compare already and have one somewhere around you? 😉
@@michaelschack Kind of, I’ve had a TD-50, TD-27 and TD-12 before that. Now I mostly play a Yamaha DTX-Pro X. In my experience Roland’s playability is really good but the sounds are lacking behind VST’s like SD3 or EZdrummer.
You could also buy a banana for $1 at the grocery store, but it's not the same thing.
Perhaps the hardware, but certainly not the sound module... Still sounds like my TD-7K from 1992...
Kun je voor een korting zorgen Michael? TIA. 😇
Ah nee, sorry Ludo 👊
@@michaelschack GREAT drumming Michael! De dag dat de V71 in België leverbaar is bestel ik (ter vervanging TD27) met mijn VAD 507. Can't wait.
Ya es hora de dejar los cables, un módulo inalámbrico
Check out the DWe.
But cables ALWAYS work in a professional situation, especially in packed clubs and venues where there’s lots of wireless devices and buzzzzzzzzz frequencies 😉
Check out the DWe. But cables ALWAYS work! No buzzzzzzz frequencies 😉
This dude says the same thing about every Roland release since 1947.
Man, those things sound HUGE! Now, If I can only talk Elon Musk into adopting me, I'll buy a set! BTW, did I understand you to say "samples"? And not synthetic sounds?
Correct, but there’s a even specific drumsynth built in which you can layer randomly with all internal and external sounds. As if you own your own top notch drum recording studio 🥳
@@michaelschack BTW, sick drumming, dude!
Touchdisplay?
Absolutely not - I'm actually also explaining why. And the market is finally understanding why not:)
@ I don't buy the arguement of the sweaty hands. It's cheaper to produce. As simple as that. But for a high end product as this one it should knobs AND touch. So everytime you should set up a computer to set up sounds? Touch is more convenient. The kits are used in studio, practising AND Live. If i set up sounds i dont have very sweaty hands. There would have been a chance to do both, touch and knobs🤷🏻♂️ on headrush pedalboards it works perfect.
Touchscreens are cost-cutting measure at best. It gave flexibility to the UI designer of course, but think about for a second.... if the UX is well thought out would you really need that flexibility ??
And of course it's error prone and will be quite erratic performing live.
Instead of having touchscreens, just let the user connect to it with a tablet would be better choice. Stil that can't beat real buttons and sliders.
Shacks Back
Man, I'd trade my hair for your playing skills... deal?
Naaahhh, I would be sweating even more. 😅 But I would love to have a drink with you talking chop. Thanks for the fun comment!
@@michaelschack Thanks to you for sharing your videos, your work is excelent
Why do you need such a big kick drum and such big toms when it is a virtual drum set?
Check out the other 7-series models - TD716 & TD713
I have to say I'm a little disappointed with the dynamics of these built in sounds, still missing the soul you get from Superior Drummer 3, just get the TD-50x and run those samples through a USB into the the TD-50x module
Go check these out first, bring your own headphones and laptop, compare to your favorite vst, and then…be amazed on how incredibly more dynamic the V-71 makes you feel while playing. It will really surprise you. I know not everyone is a hard hitter like me…
you still need a computer and interface. I think this module sounds fantastic.
@@christopherpederson1021 🙏👊
You’ll find they have far more dynamics than any VST. VSTs use MIDI v1 still which is 7bit and only 0-127 and 16 layers of dynamics only whereas the processing engine in V-Drums has 16000 steps of resolution along with positional, interval and left and right hand sensing. There’s even hi-res midi built in for when software catches up one day. Try a kit to experience it. Soundworks has 18 dynamic layers x 8 variation and 5 mics per instrument so fantastic to use too and feels realtime with the V71 driver. It’s very impressive.
Yeah I've changed my mind, from what I said the other day, from what I saw and heard at the UK drum show
Great drummer, great kit but over priced for us normal folk. Inc a third crash, splash and China would of been a nice touch like efnotes pro 507 complete kit.
Check out the other 7-series models.
ANIMAL!
Thanks - that's a compliment!
As my teacher Chad Wackerman used to say " wasted motion". Enough said
As I know Chad personally, he didn't ever tell me that to my face. We actually appreciate each other's style a lot:) It's not "wasted" motion, it's motivated personal enjoyment. To each his own
As someone who switch to e drums for the convienace I am thinking rather than buy this buy a Sonor.
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Someone will knock it off cheaper. They have to because the masses of drummers who crave this cant afford it especially in this economy. Its funny when electronic drums started the thing was they looked different along with the tech. But end of the day an acoustic kit is a work of art so its cool to mimick. Had to be.
It will be difficult for any other brand to beat this quality, hardware included. That's why you'll find Roland on the main stages (look at how many SPD-SX sampling pads you see there), V-Drums included. Many have been able to afford - the hardware quality also plays a big role in their choices - and make money as a drummer with those. Look at how many musicians are using a Mac...despite the price. So no, none other brand will knock this kind of quality "cheaper", as cheaper stands for less endurance and quality. These instruments are suited to be hit hard and loud.
The only thing I am disliking about the sound is how thin the Hihat sounds
You can have any hh sound you like. There are many brands built in and in the packs and you can change mic position, cymbal thickness, attack and release, eq, compression etc etc and if still not happy record your own and layer it up in Soundworks that comes with it. You can record 18 layers with 8 unique hits per layer using 5 mics per instrument so you can recreate any sound exactly as you like it.
I’m having heart palpitations
Your neighbours will still think your an utter..
Stop worrying about people that do not matter and would only want to discourage your hobby. Of course their dog can bark its head off all day long.
🤣
Is he having a stroke?
No. I’m just excited
They're electronic, you don't have to hit them that hard
They're dynamic, sure I can!
@michaelschack being full shells what do they sound like when they are not turned on?
Somebody needs LESS coffee.
That’s not coffee…😂
I'm actually on Red Bull:)
And few afford 😢
echt geen hond kan iets met deze review/reclame het zegt helemaal niks over dynamiek (als hij al weet wat het is), het zegt niks over de sound, want het is 1 grote storm van sounds. Leuke show en dat is het.
Komaan Rob, kom eens naar een demo - hele leuke show dan! :))
The shell look like a $300.00 kits shells
No they don’t… maybe clean your computer or phone screen? 😅
You still need SUPERIOR DRUMMER 3 aggg Roland …
I use the TD50x for external events drumming, and I use Superior Drummer 3 and DW SoundWorks in my home studio when recording drum covers in midi format to my DAW. The ability for people now to have the amazing SoundFont kits and play them live on stage without the need for a dedicated laptop is simple amazing for them! that and the many other improvements around the module and the kits.
You don’t need it actually. Soundworks comes with it and you can build your own sample library in Soundworks if you want because it’s open source. Sample your fave percussion and build your own library. 18 layers of dynamics x 8 x 5 mics
9k for this ? and still sounds crap...
As usual about 6000.00 overpriced
Usually I’d say overpriced but this one seems like it’s actually worth the money ! Roland did their big one here. I’ll give credit where it’s due
@@DAnthony14 I agree, when you consider all the different instrument sounds, overhead sounds/mics, room sounds, it's basically a completely drum recording package. Even if you went with an acoustic kit, you'd still spend a pretty penny once you factor in cymbals, mics, stands, and of course a nice sounding room to record in.
If you're not going to record with it I don’t see the point, but these kits are very capable creation tools when you put the time in to learn the module fully.
@@DAnthony14👊💯
Like always tons of bullshit
How so? Why is it then you can see V-Drums used on live stages, even big pop artist arena shows?
Same atrocious sounds with machine gunning. Incredible that they cannot overdo themselves
I found the person that can't afford this!
@@Scolecite why would I want to pay for this?
I was hoping they're going to release something that's on par with the Mimic Pro, or at least the sounds of the Strata Prime. Too bad, it's a missed opportunity imo
@@galgogergo Nothing compares to the Roland digital snare, hi-hat and ride. I use SD3 sounds anyways.
What part of this demo has you underwhelmed?
They are not atrocious they sound much better but the machine gunning is still there.
Go check it out, bring your own sticks and headphones, come to a demo clinic. I’ll prove you’re actually wrong, except for the fact that my drumming technique is not always very dynamic 😉
Still isnt worth $9k! And ride sounds like crap. Roland needs to stop being so greedy!
If that Ride really would sound like crap, more people would comment on it in such a constructive way. 😉
The ride has no sound…you choose, build whatever you want it to sound like or sample your own.
@@michaelschack yea, it could be just sound on my end.