I am act. with Jeremy on this - i prefer mystery of not knowing why Ellie is imune as in game compared to this. Plus thoughts about some. figuring how Ellie got imune (on show) and trying to replicate it are just creeepy. Anyw. still love to see original Ellie voice actress playing her mom here - wonderful acting from that lady.👍
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 Anna wasn’t immune, which is pretty obvious. When Marlene and her crew showed up, hours later, you could see that the infection on her leg had already started to spread in the same way Tess’ did.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
People really do overreact to everything these days dont they? She did an "Amazing" job? She was in the episode for like 2 minutes. It was a fine scene, nothing spectacular just fine lol
And if you look closely, his face drops into a low and mellow state just before they leave as the camera lingers on his face for those extra few seconds. I think it means that Joel is scared of the fact that her happiness affects him out of his control. For a man who has been emotionally away from everyone so that he never has to experience loss again, that feeling that someone surpassed his boundaries must have made him happy but more terrified at the same time. Masterful display of depth of emotion right there.
I honestly agree that the lack of infected actually took away from some of the depth of this ending. The infected didnt feel like they had a strong enough presence to really be all that upset at Joel for taking Ellie. Like “well it seems like humans are the worst part of the world anyways, so why kill Ellie for a cure”
They said more will be present in part 2 so I think that is also a ramification of not getting the cure. Like he saves Ellie but now there are way more infected present.
@@xSinn3Dx But after 20 years how does that make sense? No cure means that the status quo stays the same. More infected without a cure would imply some new catalyst, like a new strain, spores developing, infected swarming a QZ, etc.
Yeah it was a bit odd when they included literally zero infected in the university bit. That would have been a pretty good opportunity for some horror.
@@MVPMVE I am just trying to make sense of them adding more infected in season 2. There are a lot in the game, just not in the show. The game you get infected by breathing in the spores of the fungi. Everyone is running around with gas masks. They changed that part in the show cause they didn't want to cover peoples faces up.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and past this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
@@Bobisalive it’s a troll account they just literally copy and paste it and try and get reactions. not sure what’s fun about that but literally a bot account
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
The very first sound (just a grunt) Ashley made as she was running through the woods sounded so Ellie, I was instantly realizing who it was and every time they showed her eyes, it just brought me to the game because they used her eyes and likeness for Ellie.
I cried when the giraffe showed up. Being that is only 46 minutes, I thought they were going to skip it, but thankfully, they kept it. It’s such a pure and symbolic moment before the carnage begins again, and easily one of my favorite moments from the game. It’s vital to the story and characters, happy they kept it. All around, an amazing adaptation. I loved the journey and seeing others’ reaction and being able to share this amazing story with so many others I would Not have thought I would.
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I honestly still can't hate Joel for doing what he did. Marlene literally admitted Ellie wasn't even told nor was she given an actual choice. And my god The relief you could see Joel felt from actually being able to save his new daughter was just wow and the way they handled Joel killed his way through the hospital was beautiful loved the More tragic vibes with the muted audio with the music playing over it.
Why does nobody ever rlly take Ellie’s perspective into consideration? The show AND the game are very clear in saying that Ellie wanted to do this. “It cant all be for nothing” is her logic. And its also so obviously clear that Joel is lying, that it ends up fucking up their relationship anyway in Part 2. Yeah Joel is relieved because he gets to keep living life after finding someone to help him stop grieving over his daughter, but Ellie on the other hand? She has to live after knowing that everything she went through, was all for nothing
@@curry_dylan7762 oh I get that, but the fact that these guys were doing it without actually telling her, is a huge red flag. In that moment I 100% understand his parental instincts and would expect a guy like him to do nothing less. He should have told her the truth about it when she woke up though. I haven't played the games, so I don't know how she actually reacts when she does find out, but he's kinda shitty at being up front about things so I doubt that helps
You could really tell how much Anna loved Ellie even with the limited amount of time she had with her. I just wish she would’ve written a letter the same way she did in the game.
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I think an Easter egg was shown right before Joel went inside the surgery room. If you remember that particular room from the game , you'll find a letter that the doctors had failed attempts and that the probability of finding a cure from ellie is very very slim . So who knows if there would've been a cure or not? 😁
I honestly think they added explanations of why Ellie is immune specifically to take away ground from the people who were all “they probably wouldn’t have made a cure anyway”. The whole point is that Joel damns the world for Ellie’s sake. If he just kills a few people trying to kill her… big whoop. What’s the narrative weight to that?
@@jamesohearn2364 Yeah I never understand people saying that the cure probably wouldnt have come about. It takes away the entire weight of Joels decision
That’s a myth, go ahead and try to Google for that note or voice recording. It doesn’t exist. Not sure where people started getting this idea 😅 There was never another immune patient outside of Ellie. Theres a tape recording that explains they tried on infected kids, not immune kids
@@PeachesandCream225 It's not that the cure wouldn't have come about - or that's not the main thrust of the criticism as I understand it anyway. It's that the cure wouldn't fix the main issue with the infected themselves. The Fireflies get the cure. Would they give it to everyone else? How would they do that if they wanted to? Say they did, somehow, with whatever ratty supply lines they've got: You get a cure injected into you? Sure hope it helps when that bloater comes around. This is even more pointed in the show, where there are no spores. At least in the game, the threat of the spores themselves would be neutralised by a cure. But even then, it doesn't fix everything, even in the slim chance that it got to everyone.
5:10 this is what I’m most grateful for about this show. Getting this awesome story to people who would’ve never experienced it otherwise. When I first played the game back when it released, I knew my mom would love the story but there’s no way she’d ever sit down and play a video game. We binged this show together and I was so glad she finally got to meet these characters and moments that have been dear to me for a decade. She loved it, and I’m very satisfied with the adaptation overall.
Agreed. There is definitely a part of me that's disappointed that they will never experience the story as it was originally told - which is the best way, IMO - but for an adaptation, it did a serviceable job of at least getting the story out there. There were definitely some missteps IMO, but it could have been WAY worse. Overall, 7 out of 10.
Glad your mom liked it For me, this show is yet again proof that good stories never come from video games. It's hard to believe such a great series could go so bad at the end. It really seemed the most important thing was their relationship....only to be ruined at the end. Well, at least I know to avoid season 2.
I'm in my 60s and have never played a video game, but my son got us to sit and watch it with him on the weekends he was home. I've thoroughly enjoyed it! The odd thing is that the humans seem more an enemy than the infected.
While I did feel that the show was rushed during some bits and the lack of infected in general, it was fantastic overall. Amazing finale, especially the opening , and I’m looking forward for Season 2.
Lower your expectations. If it follows the game like this did (fairly well,) you will only enjoy it if you are a member of the Cult. The Cult obeisance was tolerable Season 1. I rather doubt you will find it so Season 2.
Very much agree with your last point. Video games don't really need to be adapted into tv shows and movies if they're already really well done. Having said that, HBO's TLOU is by far the most faithful adaptation I've ever seen, and it's a great way for non-gamers to finally experience something that is now considered a classic.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
@@minafrotarules1232 bruh, she was bit and when she gave birth Ellie was still connected to her mom via the umbilical so Ellie got some of the fungal infection there, before it was cut. Her mom was never immune.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 You have NO Idea how good an idea that is. You probably think not watching is a good idea. *It's 20x the idea you think it is.* There is absolutely zero chance this show will be any good unless HBO steps in and really really REALLY drops the hammer on Neil Cuckmann.
@@minafrotarules1232 even thought I also think the origin story wasn’t necessary, your point about she being inmune too is stupid, she was literally turning in that scene, how can you not see it? That’s exactly the reason she asked to kill her
@@minafrotarules1232 It wasn’t an origin story, just a flashback to show Ellie’s mother. Anna was never immune, it’s just suggested a part of the cordyceps she was infected with after getting bit passed on to Ellie when she was born and was never triggered.
I like that the point of Episode 3 hit home in that Joel now sees Elllie as "his purpose". Unlike Bill, though, he wouldn't be able to go through with offing himself, or even facing those emotions, a second time (having been through it with Sarah's death). This time he doesn't want, or want to allow, Ellie to make the choice about her own life (the way Frank got to make the choice about his life).
I like how the show really hammers home the raw brutality and darkness of Joel’s decision to save Ellie. When I first played the game I was a teenager so the weight of that decision didn’t really resonate with me, it was jus another cool action sequence where I get to gun down anonymous soldiers. But now that I’m older I understand more of its horrific nature. And the show did a great job illustrating that. Joel was laying waste to men and women, even to the ones who lowered their weapons and surrendered he still executed. At one point there was a soldier (looked like a teenager) who took off running and Joel actually shot at him as he was running but missed. (Maybe that part will play into the season 2 story) but they did not shy away from Joel’s dark side. I liked that -and when camera panned over and stopped to show us the doctor with the bullet in his head, was a great foreshadowing Easter egg.
My god this was an emotional episode seeing the opening with Ashley Johnson's Anna opening the episode gave me chills. It's the passing of the torch from the OG Ellie to the actress who is playing Ellie in the show. Ashley in those 5 to maybe 10 minutes powerful performance and knocked it out of the park.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
@@Bobisalive That's ironic coming from you when you said that comment every time I said my in comment sections. It really makes you look like a hypocrite, ngl. XD
It was cool hearing Ashley Johnson, her struggle sounded exactly like Ellie in the game. I thought the episode was far too short however, the game explored a lot more like the tunnel scene
I think they could have added more conflict here and there, for sure. One episode that stands out to me as a case for this was the one with Henry and Sam. In the game, you spend a bit of time with them before things go south. Henry even rescues Joel and Ellie from drowning, building the trust between all of them. In the show, they could have easily had a sequence of the 4 of them dealing with infected in the tunnels, and displayed the same dynamic of Henry seemingly abandoning them but double back to save them. This would have made that impact of their fate that much more severe. Same idea with David. In the game, he saves Ellie from an infected, they fight them together, this causes the player to want to believe that maybe he's a good guy afterall. In the show, having a sequence like this, even if very short, would have created so much more internal conflict for the viewer. All in all, loved the show. Hopefully they can hear the feedback for the 2nd season, because it seems like this is the common criticism at this point.
Sam and Henry did pull them to the shore but only after they left them for dead. They did a slight nod to that moment during the sniper scenes where Henry tries to run and leave them before almost getting shot and sticking with them. I do miss the motocycle conversation though.
Of course they are going to trim things, it’s a tv show not a 25hours video game. You can also talk about all the context they added, like Ellie’s mom or the scientist in Thailand
This show added a few things, skipped out on some stuff, and changed a few things, but out of all video game movies, this one stayed as closest to the source material. All of this is due to the fact that the writer was heavily involved in the development. I hope future video game to movie/show bring in the original writers.
It does feel like being that there did not seem to be a threat of the infected for most of the show that Ellie dying for a cure that may or may not work did not seem as needed as much. Like there seemed to be people living fine and thriving fine. It got to the point that the characters were never really fearful of making noises etc as if they knew there was no infected around at all.
Exactly. I didn't feel the presence of the infected for the.. Like 2 episodes where they actually were a danger. Why need a cure... Sure people would perhaps be better - but it doesn't feel
I actually preferred getting a solid explanation to Ellie's immunity, cause although there are steps to possibly recreating it, Anna was alone when giving birth and also told Marlene that she was bit after Ellie was born, the fact she never turned probably convinced her enough to never question it again... only when the doctors in the hospital are able to examine her further do they know she was "infected" since birth and so is immune, but we also don't know how lucky Anna was, maybe her cutting the cord when she did was a 1 in a million shot. So even if they tried we don't know if it would work... either way it gave us a backstory the game never did and I for one am more than happy with the addition to the existing story... I also really wanna point out how good that other extended scene in the army med station was, where instead of Ellie giving Joel the photo of Sarah, Joel gave us the story of him the day after she had died and his attempted suicide, how he didn't see the point of going on, very topical given Ellie's current mood being more "quiet" than usual. I found it to be a great way to show how much he's bonded with her and him saying "it wasn't time that did it" when Ellie says time heals all wounds... its safe to say I was in tears
I really pushed for my non gamer gf, mom and sis to watch the show and boy they were not dissapointed. I really enjoyed it, great adaptation and really loved watching them experiencing those brutal and beautiful moments (Tess, Sam and Henry, Cannibals, the bonding, the giraffe, etc) that i knew were coming. Amazing adaptation for an even greater game!
@@ijiwbnerjvhbohjweuirbjh1629 More like 20% yea sure they can't adapt the whole game but what they did with just 9 episodes available to them was phenominal
I didn't feel like most of the series was rushed until this episode. Idk the impact of him realizing they were going to kill Ellie and him slaughtering everyone didn't feel like it had room to breathe. Also I REALLY feel like that scene would've worked best as a continuous one take
I find it so weird that they started out so strong the infected, like the Jakarta scene and when Tess died. Then they kinda placed them in the back of the bus. I was hoping they would at least include the tunnel scene in the finale, but when I saw the runtime I realized that wasn't happening.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and past this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
Wasn't really rushed at all. The salt lake city section of the game is quite short. It's only about an hour, and that's with gameplay sections. So it being 40 mins in the show is plenty
I didn't play the game but the show felt like it flew at a breakneck pace. The time from the flashbang knocking Joel unconscious and Joel starting his killing spree to kill everyone felt like 5min.
I feel like everyone has just looked at the 42-minute runtime on their HBO Max feed and just assumed that it's short because it was rushed. But if you actually watch the episode, it doesn't feel rushed at all.
I completely agree with jeremy about the action being less but the 8 ep was suffice in those regards but still the game hits so much more harder with that..!
One thing I noticed in the credits of the episode is that one of the nurses who Joel didn't kill was played by Laura Bailey, who played Abby in TLOU2. I'm interested to see what season two would do with that character, since the show added a henchman for David and Ellie's mom to include Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson in the show (not to say those characters felt forced; on the contrary I liked their inclusions even without the actor easter egg). Here's hoping the actor cast as Abby doesn't get as much hate.
I will be curious to watch non-gamers react to Abby. Gamers have already been through the trauma, so we should be able to pacify some of the hate . . .
@@writingref hopefully. I’m a more recent fan and played both games almost back-to-back, so the scene didn’t anger me as much as longtime fans. But while I can understand the anger at seeing a favorite character die, people can… overreact sometimes
I hope not! The hate was unnecessary. I do think this season has been trying to sell season 2 with foreshadowing especially when it came to Sam. ‘ maybe he was always supposed to die ‘ the conversation with Maria and Ellie about Joel might not being the best person, etc.
I think people are more mad Ellie chose not to kill Abby. We the players saw Abby's story so we can sympathize but Ellie didn't so it kinda makes no sense why she would spare her.
@@squatch1565 The problem is not that Joel died buy how he died that pissed so many people off(rightfully so imho). TLoU2 was in dire need of a re-write and hopefully Craig Mazin is the guy to polish the story for future seasons. And hopefully Druckmann doesn't have too big of an ego and let's him do it.
They did a good job adapting the cutscenes. But if by the end of the show, you are feeling a little empty, and don't buy the relationship between Joel and Ellie. It's because a large chunk of their relationship was built inside the gameplay.
I feel they did this intentionally in order to muffle the blow of Joel's demise in the hearts of those who aren't familiar with the games... I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed that detail.. Druckman, with the live action adaptation, is able to paint the narrative of the Joel that the fireflies want revenge against... He's able to present "the monster" to an ignorant audience to further divide the audience. It's definitely intentional, so that on one hand you have the fans who accept the angle that Joel "has it coming", opposite those who consider Joel and Ellie's entire circumstance building up to the climax because they're familiar with TLOU part 1. However this goes down, it sure will spark a more heated dialogue between the fan-base.
I haven't heard this perspective from anyone who's only watched the show. I'm sure they're out there, but this mostly seems to come from people who already knew the story having played the game.
Having gone into the series not playing the games (but knowing what goes on), I thought the show was an excellent take on the end of the world. Acting wise, it was great from every party involved. I could see Pascal and Ramsey getting some noms come award season next year. The feeling of the world was fantastic, this overgrown and rundown life where the happiest ending can still make you cry. The finale gripped me from beginning to end, with a final act I'll be thinking aboit for a while. Who knows if Ellie would have gone through with the plan the Fireflies had for getting a cure if she was told it, or would they, like Joel, have to lie to make her play into their game? And seeing Joel go full "Dad Wick" mode, yeah that was so well deserved. Like when Ellie brutally attacked David in the 8th episode, it was a deserved moment. Would I have liked more Infected/Clickers? Maybe. But I was more invested into the character drama and the relationships between Joel and Ellie and the people they encounter. And yes, that includes episode 3 (which joined the very small list of movies/shows I cried at, no shame) and episode 7. And having more Infected might have gotten in the way of the thing I was more involved in. Overall, I've loved this show. It's been a fun thing to talk about with people about the story, the characters, where we go next, their thoughts and feelings. Curious as to how they'll adapt Part 2 since I know it's SUPER split opinion-wise (thanks NakeyJakey), but we'll find out.
Agree. On the surface, the game and even the series itself may have seemed like a zombie story, but it really isn't. What made the game special were the human stories. The post apocalyptic zombie setting was always just a backdrop.
I think this show is a perfect way for someone who hasn’t (and won’t) play the game to experience this story. However, as Jeremy said, having played the game, it’s hard not to think about how it felt to experience the immersion in the story that a video game allows, and the cut scenes are just as, if not even more cinematic than the show itself. Glad they both exist, and really looking forward to season 2, since I think that game offers more of an opportunity to improve upon the source material in a TV series than the first game did.
The show was great! My only critique is like you said, not enough infected. The world doesn’t seem nearly as dangerous as it was in the game. For instance, the last big infected fight happens before you reach the hospital (while traveling through the underpass) and they just cut that scene! Fights with the infected help solidify their relationship and the show took virtually all of that away. Think back… how many infected did joel really have to kill in this show… 2% of what he had to kill in the game
If you liked the show you should play the game. The show is decent but the game is outstanding. Won every award the year it came out. Even more emotional in my opinion as you have a lot more time with the characters. Show felt kinda rushed to me.
The "rushing" of the action sequence wasn't really all that rushed to me, beacuse the whole point of it was to show how utterly meaningless each kill was, how they were mere obstacles standing in the way of his goal. The _casual_ way in which he kills a man, grabs his gun, shoots the guy surrendering, grabs the next weapon, and moves on. That was on _purpose,_ and I love it. It shows that Joel sees only one thing: Ellie, and everything between him and her is a fly to be swatted out of the way.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
I agree that the kill scenes were not rushed. But to me every shot was meaningful. It served to make Ellie save. That's probably why it was done slow. Besides don't have to show to many kills.
I don't feel like it was on purpose. it felt like time and or budget related. I don't hate it, but the action scenes couldve been incredible and most of them were surprisingly weak. loved the show despite its flaws, but I don't think it was a 'choice' to reign it in, I think their hand was forced
It was an overall very good season. I undesrtand how its hard to potray a game on screen as shown with Joel taking down 10 trained soldiers on his own no problem, without a silencer or by suprise. People critique the walking deads story fair enough but Ricks always with a group fighting against groups of people or walkers, he outsmarts them and makes it look believable.
While I think the game is clearly superior, this is still an amazing adaption. There are so many scenes I would of loved to of been adapted, but I can see why some were merged or scraped due to pacing.. I was worried we wouldn't see Joel being.. well being Joel and this episode does it amazingly.. This is the Joel we know and love.
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728 Not really taken away, he'll be in flashbacks. But I don't think he carried the show.. Bella carried Episodes 7/8, he carried episode 9 though for sure.
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728 S2 will have far less viewers and won’t be as highly praised as S1, Pedro most definitely carried. Can’t see Bella doing the same at all.
I'm all for how accurate the show is and I appreciated the effort to please the OG fans of the games with little details like Joel upgrading his gun and all. My only gripe is that in my opinion some of the line deliveries seemed super stiff. Especially when either or Joel or Ellie had to deliver a badass line like "You'll just go after her" or when Ellie met Cannibal boys and had them at gun point I felt like I was watching a play with how bad they were delivering those lines. Not that Bella or Pedro didn't do an amazing job but I'd be lying if on more than one occasion I was taken out of it.
I honestly really liked that they toned down the amount of just regular people they were fighting and focused heavily on the emotional/relationships aspect of the characters. Games it makes a lot more sense to have a lot of fights, but in the show it just felt right that they toned down the human on human fighting a bit more and just focused on the characters developments. I really liked that there's usually one big fight moment in a lot of the episodes but the rest is all story building. It definitely is the only reason my mum ended up being drawn in, the first couple ones she was hesitant because she was afraid it would end up too bloody in general, she doesn't mind watching some action but doesn't want to sit down and watch something where that's the main focus. I think they made a really good choice there to tone it down a bit and draw in a much wider audience than just the gamers.
The last of us is one of my all time favorite stories. I’m so glad they made a good adaptation so people who haven’t played the game can experience the story of Joel and Ellie.
Yeah was a pretty good series! My only big issue's is that they did leave out the infected way too much. Monster time is always my favorite time. they only had like 2 encounters the whole season!!! That & yeah could've shown more of the common killing methods & sneaking methods like the brick & bottle. & using a pallet as a raft for ellie & making her do more things to open the way for him.
This whole series....chef's kiss. What was added to the tv series was incredibly well done and thought provoking. Bill and Frank backstory. Ellie's Mom. The Kansas City arc. All of it. Seeing tiktok comparisons between game and live action. This show was perfections. Masterpiece. 10/10
@@derrickpanciera5644 i wouldnt call it mid but giving it above a 9 or even 8.5 is just not it. there's no way this show compares to other shows of the 9.5/10 or 10/10 caliber
We needed WAAAAY MORE INFECTED They skipped virtually all the major infected fights The fights with the infected help solidify their relationship. Ellie NEEDS Joel in the game
@@z_cran_the_man remember the clicker everyone was jizzing over in episode two then they never showed one again. Or how they made the stupid redundant change to make the infect a hive mind where if you even step on fungus every infected within a mile knows where you are then never mentioned that again. But kissing over strawberries gets 10/10 reviews everywhere right?
@@derrickpanciera5644 exactly!!! Our opinions may not be “popular” but they have merit! The word doesn’t seem nearly as dangerous as it does in the game
The only letdown for me was the show's lack of infected; when you build the world around the infected and the cordyceps, it's just very jaring for them to be a rare occurrence in the show. Other than that I thought they did a fantastic job adaptating the game.
I'm actually glad we didn't get too many, the Walkers on the Walking Dead become so boring only after a few episodes. I think we'll get far more in seattle with Abby and Ellie.. Imo its a case of less is more.
I completely understand the lack of infected in the show. They seemed far more dangerous in the show. Every time there was an encounter with infected, someone dies. It would feel kind of ridiculous if they were fighting off hordes of infected every week.
@@traviscue2099 I can't help but laugh over the fact that the near universal decline and criticism of The Walking Dead was how it became boring *because* of a lack of focus on the infected. I don't know if you are misremembering, but it's very clear that the majority of that show paid an exhausting amount of detail into the soap- operatic lives of the people and not the zombies - The "coverage" was actually relatively miniscule compared to the people.
Biggest letdown for me is I felt this episode was really rushed it should have been an episode of intensity where Joel and Ellie have to get thru infected and when it looks like they finally made it she almost drowns and Joel even while he has armed men pointing their guns at him his focus and goal is to revive Ellie. In this one they went straight into getting found flash bang and taken in. It missed a important scene for Joels care imo. I think they started to get a little lazy with a few episodes leading to the end especially with the lack of infected.
I think that they probably could have merged episode 4 and 5. While both love stories were great episodes, it felt a bit much with two of them. At the same time I felt like the last two episodes were a bit rushed, especially the very last one. So while I think it was very well made, it could have been better if they allocated the story of time differently
Imma be honest, Jeremy. You're the only reason I know a new episode dropped, and then I don't watch your video. But I still appreciate you and like the video
During episode 5 my wife had a siezure so every episode since then has had such a level of tension that is been pretty serial to watch. My wife is fine so far by the way. Good as can be expected. But the natural fear association elevated the watching of the show.
I think there's so many moving parts of these "streaming shows" that things get overlooked. You have the story, set, wardrobe, prosthetics, makeup, people, film crew, and CGI effects afterwards are a few thing that make these shows. The script has to be tweeked to make the show work. In a perfect word, the production would have $100 million budget, a year to plan, a year to shoot, and a few more months to edit and add special effects. The Last of Us did an excellent job in what they had, the environment, acting, and end product.
Sure, but they could have added many more clicker scenes because they already had amazing clickers and other infected in full make up. So not sure why they didn’t utilise them. Many of the best clicker scenes in the game were indoors so could easily have been filmed over a day or two. Tunnel chases! Instead they added that awful CGI clickers-from-the-underground scene which was not great and looked cheap.
So they daywalkered Ellies immunity? Cant say that I needed that to be explained in that way. I was fine thinking that she was a genetic outlier, something that sometimes happens irl.
The issue is they needed a reason to make Joel’s decision “world saving” because in the game there were other immune and the cure didn’t work, the possibility was a giant factor, but In the show they allude it being a 100% working thing. That’s my main issue
@@xman011101 its very much left open to interpretation whether or not a cure was actually possible. I think the fireflies were too corrupt and wouldnt know what to do with a cure even if they had it. Also I doubt the surgery could have produced a cure anyway. However, since we will never know for sure it leaves Joel’s actions open to be justified or disagreed upon by the viewer. Personally I think the small chance that Ellie’s immunity could make a cure was worth it but it was certainly wrong to bring her there without letting her know she would die from it.
@@raf686 technically he wasn’t because there was others. That is cannon, but yes in his mind he was lying and I’m not excusing that. But he did the right thing
@@diofromava well with all the past failures in the cannon I disagree it is worth but I do overall agree. I do like that open endedness, although it’s a shame that it was stomped and spit on by the second game and he was demonized, Neil did a complete 180
Did you .notice the house in the beginning? It looked exactly like the house that Dina and Elly were living in in the game. The tractor was also sitting in the front of the house.
thank you for mentioning the lack of infected and the lack of weight to why we follow Ellie and Joel in the first place; that being her "cure".... when they aren't a threat in the show, who cares about the cure for it?
Exactly. It is no more than an epidemiological apocalyptic story. They don't need a cure since they don't seem to care about it. So why split the girl's head? We need the cliffhanger for season two. lol
I don't understand why the last episode was much shorter than the others, but seeing that doctor get shot was oddly satisfying. No threats, no chance to think, he just did it.
@@MatiZ815 no I definitely felt like they tried to cram everything in this episode. They didn’t adapt much of the actual hospital scenes or the lead up to it. And I think this is the episode where I think they should’ve but it felt like they didn’t have time.
@@REChronic54 After the scene at the military field hospital there is absolutely no story development in the game. Just walking through a level rearranging ladders. Hospital is just an action scene and just because it takes 20 minutes to beat it, does not mean that it can be a 20 minute scene. The only reason you feel like it’s rushed is because you can’t seperate it from the game and you keep thinking back to how long it takes to play through it.
9 episodes was not enough. It felt rushed overall. We could've had more Joel and Ellie bonding scenes, saving each other from infected and raiders a few more times. Heck, Ellie and David saving each other from the game for the last episode would've made the dynamics so much more interesting before Ellie chopped away. Needed more time to just be in this world.
While I loved the adaptation, I echo the same criticisms. There just wasn't enough infected or even that much danger. I'm not looking for like twenty runners and clickers popping up like the game throws at you but the fact after episode five they pretty much peace out made this version feel too safe. They also really needed more episodes. At times the show feels a bit rushed. It's still a great adaptation but I definitely wanted more.
It'll be interesting to see how I like playing the game for the first time ever having been introduce to it through the TV show. This will be the first adaptation I play after watching the show/reading a book series. And yeah - Last of Us Remastered is $20 on the PlayStation Store right now.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
Your closing point is pretty much how I feel. Although the series doesn't capture same immersion/time with characters that the game gives, they took the important parts and made a great, digestible series for both non-gamers and gamers to watch on television. And with that in mind, they did a great job and I had a lot of fun seeing my non-gamer friends enjoy the show. I have my critiques of the show but man I'm still super happy with the product.
That "Mario" reference is definitely me. I had an Atari 2600, 5200, and 7200 growing up, followed by a Super Nintendo. I've played other systems, but I never got into gaming. I used to play the shit out of "Mario" and "Killer Instinct". With all the new game technology out there, I'd love to see a "Space Invaders" story telling game. Shit, I'd definitely play "Oregon Trail" if they made it like that. Outta the two, I think "Oregon Trail" could be a series.
Counter point to how rarely the use the infected, EVERY time the characters encounter infected, someone dies. This isn't TWD where one angry enough dude takes on a horde and comes out unscathed, literally every time the infected show up someone dies. But given how much was done with them in EP2, they'd show up more. I'm sure we've seen in the trailers a shot of the bloater that need showed up, at the end of a big pipe or tunnel.
Once again, as someone who never played the game, I can honestly say I LOVE the show. I was pissed at the Fireflies the moment Joel woke up, then they talked about brain surgery that would kill Ellie ... I wanted Joel to go berserk! It was nice and hard to see at the same time. I didn't like the fact that he lied to Ellie but I also get where he's coming from. Great writing, great acting and sure, we could've had more infected, but it was overall a great experience. Can't wait for season 2 although the second game is clearly not as beloved. We shall see.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Personally I adore the second game, and in some ways it surpasses the first. But I also get why it was hard for some people. If they adapt the second season as well as the first, I know I'm going to love it but I'm curious to see how most people react
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
I loved the series the way I loved the first game. That is to say, even in its darkest moments a feeling of love or hope permeates throughout, the giraffe scene is my everything. The second game's just a bummer, especially if (spoilers) you love Joel. So I hope they pull an episode 3 level retcon for season 2, but if not I'm cool with just having this as good as it is, the way I recommend only playing the first game and only playing 2 if you hate life.
After a certain point in the second game I just had to put the controller down and turn off the game: I never finished it. I understand the logic of the story in part 2 (I read how the game continues and ends) but I had no heart left to play on. I'm glad for you if you liked part 2 but it wasn't for me.
Unless they want to recast Bella, they really could space it out with a between-season to expand on themes and connections with a new arc, and milk Pedro's star power, more Joel & Tommy, until she's old enough for Part 2. So that could also mean skipping some years. Or condense the timeline and cut out some of the mature aspects.
Yeah, the 'condensing' is the big problem with this show. We didn't get enough time with Joel and Ellie to feel for them. It's a good series, but it ain't no masterpiece.
I was a little sad they didn’t add that big infected chase in Salt Lake City cuz that was awesome. We don’t really see the infected anymore after Kansas City.
i do think Video games are the ultimate media (at the moment at least) it combines so many things that a book and a movie/series simply cant compete with
Interested to hear some other thoughts on this: I thought Joel revealing that he tried to kill himself felt a little forced in the moment. The whole giraffe scene and following dialogue was fantastic, built the expectation that Ellie is prepared to see their mission to the end and Joel is now more focused on keeping her safe. 5 minutes later, Joel unpromptedly decides to reveal this massive moment in his life to Ellie, right before we get to the hospital. I don’t hate the scenes inclusion, in fact it adds a lot of weight to Joel and Ellie’s relationship, but wish that reveal could have had more time to sit with the audience in a prior episode. Loved the show, agree with Jeremy that it’s pretty impossible to beat the source material, but it makes me happy that people who don’t play games get to experience it now.
Yeah i agree - heavy moment as this should have little more leading to it. Maybe few prev. shares between 2 about personal stuff, before conv escalates to this, or better placed timing for it. Not just almost randomly during walk. Felt like we could had more bonding time with them before hospital events. Almost like they tryed to cut time for this episode.
Yeah the dialogue in general has been pretty bad. All the subtlety from the game was replaced with the characters saying exactly what their thinking even though it doesn't fit their character at all. Joel isn't the kind of guy to randomly open up about his suicide attempt umprompted. The whole "it wasn't time that did it" was also super awkward.
Something I think the show set up really well is the dubiousness of the “cure”. Remember that back in episode 2, we were shown an expert in the field claiming that curing cordyceps would be functionally impossible. Perhaps the Fireflies did find a miracle, but it seems more likely that they were pursuing a doomed pipe dream. The choice before Joel was far from Ellie vs the world, but more so Ellie vs a fool’s hope of saving the world.
exactly. there was absolutely no guarantee that killing ellie to obtain what made her immune would prove fruitful. i have no doubt in my mind it was a pipe dream. developing a cure in a post apocalyptic world like the last of us was bound to fail. best case scenario the “cure” works for a few people. there’s no shot it would’ve been this 100% effective success which i believe completely vindicates joel.
Just finished watching and Wow! What a finale! The most emotional episode of all 😲😱😢 Also, was happy to see Ellie's VA from the Game (Ashley Johnson) come on the show (we knew it but still), is very poetic, but also despite it being brief, you could see that Anna and Marlene had history and the latter's reluctance to kill her friend, palpable. Then you see Joel all happy and chatty, and his open expression of love and caring about Ellie made me smile. Then Joel talks about Sarah again (that part guts me every time I play the game as a dad who lost his lil girl) and just made me feel for Joel. I love that Ellie and Joel have grown closer and Bella and Pedro's chemistry sells it really well. Glad we got to see the Giraffe and have it follow the game to a t.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
The only thing I missed was the while trying to find his way out of the hospital while being chased by fedra. That was the most emotional part of the game for me, trying to escape knowing you can't fight back was so intense. Other than that, great episode.
Also hearing the Fireflies desperately try to stop him because that is literally everything they've been fighting for. You also got to remember that this is the event that effectively destroys the Fireflies. They lose their leader, doctors, an important base of operations and lots of veterans thanks to Joel. Which sets up for part 2....
@@grinningwombat I realized on rewatch, so I'm glad the soundtrack (or at least a version of it) is included in this scene. However it was used in a different context in the game, I remember it being very impactful during Joel's escape towards the elevator.
I absolutely love the music and moments it was implemented in the game. It was a huge aspect of Last of Us for me. I feel the show really misses on all the important scenes and really shoved the music to the distant background. I wonder if anyone who didn't play the games really noticed the soundtrack.
I wonder how season 2 will go, there were additions & changes made in this season that make me curious to see how they'll go about adapting TLOU 2. I personally did not like the story of part 2 at all, but I'll give season 2 a chance.
I didn’t hate it but some of the initial ideas for the game sound so much better than what we got. 1. Joel and Tommy killed some people when they were hunters and Abby survived. 2. Abby and co infiltrate Jackson, become one of them and then ‘ betray ‘ Joel and co. The audition for Abby would have been a good addition as well, imo. Apparently the actress was using a knife and got emotional because Joel wasn’t giving her the reaction she wanted. I just feel like more emotion/mystery on Abby’s side would have done so much better.
My only gripe with the show is it felt rushed at times and the world didn't feel as dangerous as the game. It's still the best adaptation of a game to date the performances are great production design great overall a solid 8/10 for the series
Really liked the backstory with Ellie’s mom. Marlene promising to look after her from birth, to then seeing her willing to sacrifice her to potentially save humanity just makes it that much more tragic. Wish it was a little longer however, would of liked to spend more time seeing Joel’s rampage through the hospital while trying to reach Ellie. I did like the montage tho, and seeing Joel shoot people after surrendering was great. Kinda wish he killed the women in the surgery room tho. I know they weren’t a threat, but I don’t think Joel would even be considering that in the moment. He doesn’t wanna risk anything happening, and he probably wouldn’t wanna leave witnesses behind, plus it would just add to the shock factor and would show just how far he’s willing to go to save Ellie. All in all tho great season. Wish we saw a little more infected here and there but I guess not seeing as many was a more realistic approach. Even them just coming across one that they have to try and take out would go a long way. Who knows tho, with season 2 being confirmed, maybe they’ll have a bigger budget to incorporate more infected scenes.
Him not shooting the nurses was anti-climactic, especially after rampaging through an entire population. I always thought Joel would be an equal opportunity murderer, but I guess he's sexist.
Something that occurred to me watching this show: Pedro Pascal's Joel is basically the same as The Mandalorian. A wandering badass tasked with looking after a special child. I wonder if he knows that he's playing the same role twice?
Man the way joel killed those fireflies in the hospital is the joel ive been wanting to see through out the whole damn season. Savage joel 💪🏽. Wish we could have seen more of joel whooping ass like how he did in the game.
I'm glad they finally included a "boost me up" moment in the show
Now the only thing missing in this show is joel grabbing and looting shit up
Boosting was already in episodes 2 and 4.
I think they did include one in the second episode with Joel and Tess. Not sure if I remember that correctly though!
@@ItsDavidFilms Correct. Also, Joel boosted Ellie up in episode 4 so she could open door from the inside.
@@iudexe3103 also missing Joel swimming for a pallet to get Ellie across a lake of water
How Ellie became immune is how Blade became the Day walker. His mum was bitten when she was in labour.
I am act. with Jeremy on this - i prefer mystery of not knowing why Ellie is imune as in game compared to this. Plus thoughts about some. figuring how Ellie got imune (on show) and trying to replicate it are just creeepy. Anyw. still love to see original Ellie voice actress playing her mom here - wonderful acting from that lady.👍
I was just thinking that.
Writers thought they could sneak that 'moment of inspiration' in and no one would notice...... Nice try 😂
It worked two times... so it must be TRUE!!!
Ellie is a Fungus Walker
Ashley Johnson did an amazing job playing Ellie’s mom 👏🏽
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 Anna wasn’t immune, which is pretty obvious. When Marlene and her crew showed up, hours later, you could see that the infection on her leg had already started to spread in the same way Tess’ did.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
@@minafrotarules1232 Shut up already, troll. You're being reported for your constant copy and paste garbage spamming.
People really do overreact to everything these days dont they? She did an "Amazing" job? She was in the episode for like 2 minutes. It was a fine scene, nothing spectacular just fine lol
The way Joel looked at Ellie in the giraffe scene is so genuine. A look of a father that is happy for his daughter
And if you look closely, his face drops into a low and mellow state just before they leave as the camera lingers on his face for those extra few seconds. I think it means that Joel is scared of the fact that her happiness affects him out of his control. For a man who has been emotionally away from everyone so that he never has to experience loss again, that feeling that someone surpassed his boundaries must have made him happy but more terrified at the same time. Masterful display of depth of emotion right there.
I honestly agree that the lack of infected actually took away from some of the depth of this ending. The infected didnt feel like they had a strong enough presence to really be all that upset at Joel for taking Ellie. Like “well it seems like humans are the worst part of the world anyways, so why kill Ellie for a cure”
Right???
They said more will be present in part 2 so I think that is also a ramification of not getting the cure. Like he saves Ellie but now there are way more infected present.
@@xSinn3Dx But after 20 years how does that make sense? No cure means that the status quo stays the same. More infected without a cure would imply some new catalyst, like a new strain, spores developing, infected swarming a QZ, etc.
Yeah it was a bit odd when they included literally zero infected in the university bit. That would have been a pretty good opportunity for some horror.
@@MVPMVE I am just trying to make sense of them adding more infected in season 2. There are a lot in the game, just not in the show. The game you get infected by breathing in the spores of the fungi. Everyone is running around with gas masks. They changed that part in the show cause they didn't want to cover peoples faces up.
I feel like it's a shame that we didn't get more time this episode but I still adore the story and appreciate how good an adaptation this was.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and past this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
@@minafrotarules1232 Shut up already, troll. You're being reported for your constant copy and paste garbage spamming.
@@Bobisalive it’s a troll account they just literally copy and paste it and try and get reactions. not sure what’s fun about that but literally a bot account
@@minafrotarules1232lol show rlly has u triggered I’ve seen u comment on every single one of Jeremy’s reviews lmao
Can’t wait for season 2, Abby to be played by Dwayne the rock Johnson
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
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Making the Mother of all omelettes here, Ellie! Can't fret over every Joel!
Oh man it’s going to be bad
@@minafrotarules1232 Ok
The very first sound (just a grunt) Ashley made as she was running through the woods sounded so Ellie, I was instantly realizing who it was and every time they showed her eyes, it just brought me to the game because they used her eyes and likeness for Ellie.
I cried when the giraffe showed up. Being that is only 46 minutes, I thought they were going to skip it, but thankfully, they kept it. It’s such a pure and symbolic moment before the carnage begins again, and easily one of my favorite moments from the game. It’s vital to the story and characters, happy they kept it.
All around, an amazing adaptation. I loved the journey and seeing others’ reaction and being able to share this amazing story with so many others I would Not have thought I would.
They couldn’t have missed that part it was integral to the game
Why the fuck would you cry over that?
You are adorable
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Carnage wtf are you watching there’s no violence in this shit show
Also, Laura Bailey, who plays Abby in part 2, was one of the nurses in the room with Ellie
Props for spotting !
@@sankalpshukla5034 Wait... So she knows what Joel and Ellie look like?... Interesting
@@MoshanDesign Laura Bailey is the VA, not the actual actress for Abby
@@JoseGarcia-dh7uh Technically she also is the actress since she did the mo cap in the game as well
@@MoshanDesign Not sure if serious, but the VA is playing Nurse # 2 in the show, not actually Abby.
I honestly still can't hate Joel for doing what he did. Marlene literally admitted Ellie wasn't even told nor was she given an actual choice. And my god The relief you could see Joel felt from actually being able to save his new daughter was just wow and the way they handled Joel killed his way through the hospital was beautiful loved the More tragic vibes with the muted audio with the music playing over it.
Well they were gonna kill her for a cure that might not even work and yer he doesn't wanna lose another daughter
As a parent, if someone was going to chop at my daughter's brain, even to save humanity.... I would kill them all too... No hesitation
Why does nobody ever rlly take Ellie’s perspective into consideration? The show AND the game are very clear in saying that Ellie wanted to do this. “It cant all be for nothing” is her logic. And its also so obviously clear that Joel is lying, that it ends up fucking up their relationship anyway in Part 2. Yeah Joel is relieved because he gets to keep living life after finding someone to help him stop grieving over his daughter, but Ellie on the other hand? She has to live after knowing that everything she went through, was all for nothing
Imagine watching the show or playing the game and not realizing that's what Ellie wants.
@@curry_dylan7762 oh I get that, but the fact that these guys were doing it without actually telling her, is a huge red flag. In that moment I 100% understand his parental instincts and would expect a guy like him to do nothing less. He should have told her the truth about it when she woke up though. I haven't played the games, so I don't know how she actually reacts when she does find out, but he's kinda shitty at being up front about things so I doubt that helps
You could really tell how much Anna loved Ellie even with the limited amount of time she had with her. I just wish she would’ve written a letter the same way she did in the game.
In the Podcast ashley johnson she did.
To be frank, It's hard to find a mother not be completely in love with the child she just gave birth to.
@@Ronariverah z,Áaaa42§
It's a tv show, not a game.
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I think an Easter egg was shown right before Joel went inside the surgery room. If you remember that particular room from the game , you'll find a letter that the doctors had failed attempts and that the probability of finding a cure from ellie is very very slim . So who knows if there would've been a cure or not? 😁
I honestly think they added explanations of why Ellie is immune specifically to take away ground from the people who were all “they probably wouldn’t have made a cure anyway”.
The whole point is that Joel damns the world for Ellie’s sake. If he just kills a few people trying to kill her… big whoop. What’s the narrative weight to that?
@@jamesohearn2364 Yeah I never understand people saying that the cure probably wouldnt have come about. It takes away the entire weight of Joels decision
That’s a myth, go ahead and try to Google for that note or voice recording. It doesn’t exist. Not sure where people started getting this idea 😅
There was never another immune patient outside of Ellie. Theres a tape recording that explains they tried on infected kids, not immune kids
thats not whats in the game though? Have your read the notes...?
@@PeachesandCream225 It's not that the cure wouldn't have come about - or that's not the main thrust of the criticism as I understand it anyway. It's that the cure wouldn't fix the main issue with the infected themselves. The Fireflies get the cure. Would they give it to everyone else? How would they do that if they wanted to? Say they did, somehow, with whatever ratty supply lines they've got: You get a cure injected into you? Sure hope it helps when that bloater comes around. This is even more pointed in the show, where there are no spores. At least in the game, the threat of the spores themselves would be neutralised by a cure. But even then, it doesn't fix everything, even in the slim chance that it got to everyone.
5:10 this is what I’m most grateful for about this show. Getting this awesome story to people who would’ve never experienced it otherwise. When I first played the game back when it released, I knew my mom would love the story but there’s no way she’d ever sit down and play a video game. We binged this show together and I was so glad she finally got to meet these characters and moments that have been dear to me for a decade. She loved it, and I’m very satisfied with the adaptation overall.
yeah im an xbox guy, spent my life hearing how great tlou was, now i got to experience it
Agreed. There is definitely a part of me that's disappointed that they will never experience the story as it was originally told - which is the best way, IMO - but for an adaptation, it did a serviceable job of at least getting the story out there. There were definitely some missteps IMO, but it could have been WAY worse. Overall, 7 out of 10.
Kudos to your mom for having a decade's patience with these characters...lol
Glad your mom liked it
For me, this show is yet again proof that good stories never come from video games.
It's hard to believe such a great series could go so bad at the end.
It really seemed the most important thing was their relationship....only to be ruined at the end.
Well, at least I know to avoid season 2.
I'm in my 60s and have never played a video game, but my son got us to sit and watch it with him on the weekends he was home. I've thoroughly enjoyed it! The odd thing is that the humans seem more an enemy than the infected.
While I did feel that the show was rushed during some bits and the lack of infected in general, it was fantastic overall. Amazing finale, especially the opening , and I’m looking forward for Season 2.
Lower your expectations. If it follows the game like this did (fairly well,) you will only enjoy it if you are a member of the Cult. The Cult obeisance was tolerable Season 1. I rather doubt you will find it so Season 2.
@@theminister1154 cope bro
@@theminister1154 My expectations for season 2 are very low
I was so disappointed with the lack of infected for being a show about a worldwide infection. Very disappointing, not watching ever again.
@@russelljconquerslifehawkey I was thinking who needs a cure? You barely see the infected anyways.
Very much agree with your last point. Video games don't really need to be adapted into tv shows and movies if they're already really well done. Having said that, HBO's TLOU is by far the most faithful adaptation I've ever seen, and it's a great way for non-gamers to finally experience something that is now considered a classic.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 why do you even need to know why she is immune.
@@minafrotarules1232 Shut up already, troll. You're being reported for your constant copy and paste garbage spamming.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
@@minafrotarules1232 bruh, she was bit and when she gave birth Ellie was still connected to her mom via the umbilical so Ellie got some of the fungal infection there, before it was cut. Her mom was never immune.
The fact Ashley Johnson would play Ellie’s mother 10 years later is some nice poetry.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 Why are you everywhere?
@@minafrotarules1232 You have NO Idea how good an idea that is. You probably think not watching is a good idea. *It's 20x the idea you think it is.* There is absolutely zero chance this show will be any good unless HBO steps in and really really REALLY drops the hammer on Neil Cuckmann.
@@minafrotarules1232 even thought I also think the origin story wasn’t necessary, your point about she being inmune too is stupid, she was literally turning in that scene, how can you not see it? That’s exactly the reason she asked to kill her
@@minafrotarules1232 It wasn’t an origin story, just a flashback to show Ellie’s mother. Anna was never immune, it’s just suggested a part of the cordyceps she was infected with after getting bit passed on to Ellie when she was born and was never triggered.
I like that the point of Episode 3 hit home in that Joel now sees Elllie as "his purpose". Unlike Bill, though, he wouldn't be able to go through with offing himself, or even facing those emotions, a second time (having been through it with Sarah's death). This time he doesn't want, or want to allow, Ellie to make the choice about her own life (the way Frank got to make the choice about his life).
I like how the show really hammers home the raw brutality and darkness of Joel’s decision to save Ellie.
When I first played the game I was a teenager so the weight of that decision didn’t really resonate with me, it was jus another cool action sequence where I get to gun down anonymous soldiers.
But now that I’m older I understand more of its horrific nature. And the show did a great job illustrating that. Joel was laying waste to men and women, even to the ones who lowered their weapons and surrendered he still executed. At one point there was a soldier (looked like a teenager) who took off running and Joel actually shot at him as he was running but missed. (Maybe that part will play into the season 2 story)
but they did not shy away from Joel’s dark side. I liked that
-and when camera panned over and stopped to show us the doctor with the bullet in his head, was a great foreshadowing Easter egg.
Seeing Ashley play Ellie's mom is very cool and poetic.
Why is it so cool didn't get it???
@@5h3j7s4 Ashley is a voice actor for Ellie in the game version, so basically the og giving birth to the next Ellie
The funny thing is, some people were mad that Bella doesn't look like in-game Ellie, but she DOES look like Ashley Johnson.
@@w415800i was thinking that watching the episode. She was a believable mother to bella ramsey
@@w415800They look and sound the same too.
I loved that the house in the flashback was the house from the end of the second game
holy shit it was!
Really? That's cool but I can't help now but feel like that doesn't make sense from a narrative standpoint
…and now I’m convinced they’re going to adapt the 2nd game. What a fucking travesty.
@@TheMan21892 The part 2 story is almost universally despised, they'd have to have huge balls to actually follow through with it.
@@TheMan21892 they already said there’s a second season coming so it’s pretty obvious there going to follow the second game.
My god this was an emotional episode seeing the opening with Ashley Johnson's Anna opening the episode gave me chills. It's the passing of the torch from the OG Ellie to the actress who is playing Ellie in the show. Ashley in those 5 to maybe 10 minutes powerful performance and knocked it out of the park.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
Kinda fell flat tbh
@@minafrotarules1232 found the walking dead fangirl lol
@@Bobisalive That's ironic coming from you when you said that comment every time I said my in comment sections. It really makes you look like a hypocrite, ngl. XD
It was cool hearing Ashley Johnson, her struggle sounded exactly like Ellie in the game. I thought the episode was far too short however, the game explored a lot more like the tunnel scene
I like to consider Ashley Johnson playing Ellie’s mom a bit like passing down the torch from one person to another and it feels kinda nice in a way
I think they could have added more conflict here and there, for sure. One episode that stands out to me as a case for this was the one with Henry and Sam. In the game, you spend a bit of time with them before things go south. Henry even rescues Joel and Ellie from drowning, building the trust between all of them. In the show, they could have easily had a sequence of the 4 of them dealing with infected in the tunnels, and displayed the same dynamic of Henry seemingly abandoning them but double back to save them. This would have made that impact of their fate that much more severe.
Same idea with David. In the game, he saves Ellie from an infected, they fight them together, this causes the player to want to believe that maybe he's a good guy afterall. In the show, having a sequence like this, even if very short, would have created so much more internal conflict for the viewer.
All in all, loved the show. Hopefully they can hear the feedback for the 2nd season, because it seems like this is the common criticism at this point.
Also, the scene where Ellie and David fight infected together was left out. A lot was left out.
Sam and Henry did pull them to the shore but only after they left them for dead. They did a slight nod to that moment during the sniper scenes where Henry tries to run and leave them before almost getting shot and sticking with them. I do miss the motocycle conversation though.
With the david camp fire scene even just a single infected attacking and him pulling out a hidden gun and killing it to save ellie woulda been nice.
Exactly this. I hope this becomes THE common criticism going forward. The stuff they did was awesome, but they trimmed too much fat.
Of course they are going to trim things, it’s a tv show not a 25hours video game. You can also talk about all the context they added, like Ellie’s mom or the scientist in Thailand
This show added a few things, skipped out on some stuff, and changed a few things, but out of all video game movies, this one stayed as closest to the source material. All of this is due to the fact that the writer was heavily involved in the development. I hope future video game to movie/show bring in the original writers.
Well, one of the writers anyway.
It does feel like being that there did not seem to be a threat of the infected for most of the show that Ellie dying for a cure that may or may not work did not seem as needed as much. Like there seemed to be people living fine and thriving fine.
It got to the point that the characters were never really fearful of making noises etc as if they knew there was no infected around at all.
Goog point.
Exactly. I didn't feel the presence of the infected for the.. Like 2 episodes where they actually were a danger.
Why need a cure... Sure people would perhaps be better - but it doesn't feel
I actually preferred getting a solid explanation to Ellie's immunity, cause although there are steps to possibly recreating it, Anna was alone when giving birth and also told Marlene that she was bit after Ellie was born, the fact she never turned probably convinced her enough to never question it again... only when the doctors in the hospital are able to examine her further do they know she was "infected" since birth and so is immune, but we also don't know how lucky Anna was, maybe her cutting the cord when she did was a 1 in a million shot. So even if they tried we don't know if it would work... either way it gave us a backstory the game never did and I for one am more than happy with the addition to the existing story... I also really wanna point out how good that other extended scene in the army med station was, where instead of Ellie giving Joel the photo of Sarah, Joel gave us the story of him the day after she had died and his attempted suicide, how he didn't see the point of going on, very topical given Ellie's current mood being more "quiet" than usual. I found it to be a great way to show how much he's bonded with her and him saying "it wasn't time that did it" when Ellie says time heals all wounds... its safe to say I was in tears
I really pushed for my non gamer gf, mom and sis to watch the show and boy they were not dissapointed. I really enjoyed it, great adaptation and really loved watching them experiencing those brutal and beautiful moments (Tess, Sam and Henry, Cannibals, the bonding, the giraffe, etc) that i knew were coming.
Amazing adaptation for an even greater game!
Ellie and Joel feeding the giraffe gave me some serious Jurassic Park vibes.
Hmm, a giraffe is not a dinosaur. 😂
@@TheGraemi no shit dude. It still echoed that scene in Jurassic park.
@@ResidentKen 😉
@@ResidentKen 😂😂
This was the most video game accurate thing I've ever seen.
Probably because its copy and paste of the game lol.. just with 80% of what made the game great removed
@@ijiwbnerjvhbohjweuirbjh1629 More like 20% yea sure they can't adapt the whole game but what they did with just 9 episodes available to them was phenominal
@@saadsarwar8123 tbh i cant remember anything from the show it was that bad
@@ijiwbnerjvhbohjweuirbjh1629 You can have ur opinion but most of the people including me enjoyed the show very much
@@ijiwbnerjvhbohjweuirbjh1629if you cant remember much from a show that just came out then your opinion on it cannot be that well thought out
Now that the season is over, best episode for me was Henry and Sam. It had a nice balance of character and action... plus a great dose of infected.
By far my favorite episode.
I didn't feel like most of the series was rushed until this episode. Idk the impact of him realizing they were going to kill Ellie and him slaughtering everyone didn't feel like it had room to breathe. Also I REALLY feel like that scene would've worked best as a continuous one take
That would have been amazing
I completely agree with both parts of your comment. Should have been drawn out into 2 episodes to make it have more weight.
I find it so weird that they started out so strong the infected, like the Jakarta scene and when Tess died. Then they kinda placed them in the back of the bus. I was hoping they would at least include the tunnel scene in the finale, but when I saw the runtime I realized that wasn't happening.
I’ve absolutely loved this adaptation. They really nailed as much as they could in the translation to tv.
Worst finale ever! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 aint reading alldat but good for you bestie
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and past this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life.
@@minafrotarules1232 Shut up already, troll. You're being reported for your constant copy and paste garbage spamming.
@@minafrotarules1232 okay champ, whatever makes you happy.
I think they should've made the finale longer since it felt a bit rushed but overall, I enjoyed the episode and the first season.
Wasn't really rushed at all.
The salt lake city section of the game is quite short.
It's only about an hour, and that's with gameplay sections. So it being 40 mins in the show is plenty
It didn't feel rushed but it felt short
@@Phoenix1121212 11 minutes was the flashback, 3-4 ending scene, so the core main part of the episode was 25 minutes which is just pitiful 🤡
I didn't play the game but the show felt like it flew at a breakneck pace. The time from the flashbang knocking Joel unconscious and Joel starting his killing spree to kill everyone felt like 5min.
I feel like everyone has just looked at the 42-minute runtime on their HBO Max feed and just assumed that it's short because it was rushed. But if you actually watch the episode, it doesn't feel rushed at all.
I think everything in this episode was fantastic, but I do agree that I think we needed more of it. Just an extra 10mins would have been perfect.
The part where they did the ladder thing made me and my fiance squeal with delight (I had just played the game for her before we watched the show)
Literally the only Part of the show that adapts gameplay and not a cutscene.
I completely agree with jeremy about the action being less
but the 8 ep was suffice in those regards but still the game hits so much more harder with that..!
Side note: I love how the Oscars 2023 was essentially a Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom reunion.
@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok
huh
And encino man 😂
@@thegreyinitiate3680 Very true! 😅
One thing I noticed in the credits of the episode is that one of the nurses who Joel didn't kill was played by Laura Bailey, who played Abby in TLOU2. I'm interested to see what season two would do with that character, since the show added a henchman for David and Ellie's mom to include Troy Baker and Ashley Johnson in the show (not to say those characters felt forced; on the contrary I liked their inclusions even without the actor easter egg). Here's hoping the actor cast as Abby doesn't get as much hate.
I will be curious to watch non-gamers react to Abby. Gamers have already been through the trauma, so we should be able to pacify some of the hate . . .
@@writingref hopefully. I’m a more recent fan and played both games almost back-to-back, so the scene didn’t anger me as much as longtime fans. But while I can understand the anger at seeing a favorite character die, people can… overreact sometimes
I hope not! The hate was unnecessary. I do think this season has been trying to sell season 2 with foreshadowing especially when it came to Sam. ‘ maybe he was always supposed to die ‘ the conversation with Maria and Ellie about Joel might not being the best person, etc.
I think people are more mad Ellie chose not to kill Abby. We the players saw Abby's story so we can sympathize but Ellie didn't so it kinda makes no sense why she would spare her.
@@squatch1565 The problem is not that Joel died buy how he died that pissed so many people off(rightfully so imho). TLoU2 was in dire need of a re-write and hopefully Craig Mazin is the guy to polish the story for future seasons. And hopefully Druckmann doesn't have too big of an ego and let's him do it.
The Giraffe's made it into the finale. theRadBrad must have been jumping from excitement!
that is a meta reference
The RadBrad.. I used to watch him years ago - damn.
I’m glad they made it short for the quality rather than stretch it out for no reason
They did a good job adapting the cutscenes. But if by the end of the show, you are feeling a little empty, and don't buy the relationship between Joel and Ellie. It's because a large chunk of their relationship was built inside the gameplay.
I had the same issue throughout the whole series.
I feel they did this intentionally in order to muffle the blow of Joel's demise in the hearts of those who aren't familiar with the games... I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed that detail..
Druckman, with the live action adaptation, is able to paint the narrative of the Joel that the fireflies want revenge against... He's able to present "the monster" to an ignorant audience to further divide the audience.
It's definitely intentional, so that on one hand you have the fans who accept the angle that Joel "has it coming", opposite those who consider Joel and Ellie's entire circumstance building up to the climax because they're familiar with TLOU part 1.
However this goes down, it sure will spark a more heated dialogue between the fan-base.
THANK YOU. They left out some of the major parts that were in the gameplay and that’s why their relationship isn’t the same.
Didn’t feel that way at all
I haven't heard this perspective from anyone who's only watched the show. I'm sure they're out there, but this mostly seems to come from people who already knew the story having played the game.
Having gone into the series not playing the games (but knowing what goes on), I thought the show was an excellent take on the end of the world. Acting wise, it was great from every party involved. I could see Pascal and Ramsey getting some noms come award season next year. The feeling of the world was fantastic, this overgrown and rundown life where the happiest ending can still make you cry.
The finale gripped me from beginning to end, with a final act I'll be thinking aboit for a while. Who knows if Ellie would have gone through with the plan the Fireflies had for getting a cure if she was told it, or would they, like Joel, have to lie to make her play into their game? And seeing Joel go full "Dad Wick" mode, yeah that was so well deserved. Like when Ellie brutally attacked David in the 8th episode, it was a deserved moment.
Would I have liked more Infected/Clickers? Maybe. But I was more invested into the character drama and the relationships between Joel and Ellie and the people they encounter. And yes, that includes episode 3 (which joined the very small list of movies/shows I cried at, no shame) and episode 7. And having more Infected might have gotten in the way of the thing I was more involved in.
Overall, I've loved this show. It's been a fun thing to talk about with people about the story, the characters, where we go next, their thoughts and feelings. Curious as to how they'll adapt Part 2 since I know it's SUPER split opinion-wise (thanks NakeyJakey), but we'll find out.
Agree. On the surface, the game and even the series itself may have seemed like a zombie story, but it really isn't. What made the game special were the human stories. The post apocalyptic zombie setting was always just a backdrop.
I think this show is a perfect way for someone who hasn’t (and won’t) play the game to experience this story. However, as Jeremy said, having played the game, it’s hard not to think about how it felt to experience the immersion in the story that a video game allows, and the cut scenes are just as, if not even more cinematic than the show itself. Glad they both exist, and really looking forward to season 2, since I think that game offers more of an opportunity to improve upon the source material in a TV series than the first game did.
The show was great! My only critique is like you said, not enough infected. The world doesn’t seem nearly as dangerous as it was in the game.
For instance, the last big infected fight happens before you reach the hospital (while traveling through the underpass) and they just cut that scene!
Fights with the infected help solidify their relationship and the show took virtually all of that away.
Think back… how many infected did joel really have to kill in this show… 2% of what he had to kill in the game
If you liked the show you should play the game. The show is decent but the game is outstanding. Won every award the year it came out. Even more emotional in my opinion as you have a lot more time with the characters. Show felt kinda rushed to me.
@@arac7690 Yeah. That last episode was disappointingly short, but I guess it's better than forcing to extend the story.
The "rushing" of the action sequence wasn't really all that rushed to me, beacuse the whole point of it was to show how utterly meaningless each kill was, how they were mere obstacles standing in the way of his goal. The _casual_ way in which he kills a man, grabs his gun, shoots the guy surrendering, grabs the next weapon, and moves on. That was on _purpose,_ and I love it. It shows that Joel sees only one thing: Ellie, and everything between him and her is a fly to be swatted out of the way.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 Shut up already, troll. You're being reported for your constant copy and paste garbage spamming.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
I agree that the kill scenes were not rushed. But to me every shot was meaningful. It served to make Ellie save. That's probably why it was done slow. Besides don't have to show to many kills.
I don't feel like it was on purpose. it felt like time and or budget related. I don't hate it, but the action scenes couldve been incredible and most of them were surprisingly weak. loved the show despite its flaws, but I don't think it was a 'choice' to reign it in, I think their hand was forced
It was an overall very good season. I undesrtand how its hard to potray a game on screen as shown with Joel taking down 10 trained soldiers on his own no problem, without a silencer or by suprise. People critique the walking deads story fair enough but Ricks always with a group fighting against groups of people or walkers, he outsmarts them and makes it look believable.
Ellie's mom being bitten while carrying her, is reminiscent to Blade's origin .
I had the weird feeling (obviously I don't know) that this episode was filmed first, before the other episodes. Idk why, I can't explain.
I really liked the actress in the first episode that plays Joel's daughter
While I think the game is clearly superior, this is still an amazing adaption. There are so many scenes I would of loved to of been adapted, but I can see why some were merged or scraped due to pacing.. I was worried we wouldn't see Joel being.. well being Joel and this episode does it amazingly.. This is the Joel we know and love.
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Funny Pedro carried this entire show then he’ll be taken away in season 2 lmao
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728 Not really taken away, he'll be in flashbacks. But I don't think he carried the show.. Bella carried Episodes 7/8, he carried episode 9 though for sure.
@@traviscue2099 I mean, that was because he literally wasn’t on screen lol. With that said, I love the casting for both of them.
@@lazerbeamspewpew4728 S2 will have far less viewers and won’t be as highly praised as S1, Pedro most definitely carried. Can’t see Bella doing the same at all.
I loved the loading screen music near the end
I'm all for how accurate the show is and I appreciated the effort to please the OG fans of the games with little details like Joel upgrading his gun and all. My only gripe is that in my opinion some of the line deliveries seemed super stiff. Especially when either or Joel or Ellie had to deliver a badass line like "You'll just go after her" or when Ellie met Cannibal boys and had them at gun point I felt like I was watching a play with how bad they were delivering those lines. Not that Bella or Pedro didn't do an amazing job but I'd be lying if on more than one occasion I was taken out of it.
I honestly really liked that they toned down the amount of just regular people they were fighting and focused heavily on the emotional/relationships aspect of the characters. Games it makes a lot more sense to have a lot of fights, but in the show it just felt right that they toned down the human on human fighting a bit more and just focused on the characters developments. I really liked that there's usually one big fight moment in a lot of the episodes but the rest is all story building. It definitely is the only reason my mum ended up being drawn in, the first couple ones she was hesitant because she was afraid it would end up too bloody in general, she doesn't mind watching some action but doesn't want to sit down and watch something where that's the main focus. I think they made a really good choice there to tone it down a bit and draw in a much wider audience than just the gamers.
They forgot about the zombies for most of the show though
The last of us is one of my all time favorite stories. I’m so glad they made a good adaptation so people who haven’t played the game can experience the story of Joel and Ellie.
I felt the show was lacking in every parts except for the drama
I'm also amused this is the shortest episode, shame they didn't include the infected section, that was one of the best in the game
What infected? Does this series have anything to do with infected?😉😋
I believe the second bloater encounter happened in the lead up to this last hospital setting.
@@holysecret2 Yeah, there's two of them and a bunch of other infected in the tunnel right before Ellie falls in the river.
@@hollandscottthomas Scenes where Joel is a hero are not allowed, except for the psychopath saving Eliie from the operation. lol
I loved that basically passing the torch moment by letting ashley johnson portray ellies mother.
Yeah was a pretty good series! My only big issue's is that they did leave out the infected way too much. Monster time is always my favorite time. they only had like 2 encounters the whole season!!! That & yeah could've shown more of the common killing methods & sneaking methods like the brick & bottle. & using a pallet as a raft for ellie & making her do more things to open the way for him.
This whole series....chef's kiss. What was added to the tv series was incredibly well done and thought provoking. Bill and Frank backstory. Ellie's Mom. The Kansas City arc. All of it. Seeing tiktok comparisons between game and live action. This show was perfections. Masterpiece. 10/10
Really? A 10/10 masterpiece? Lol ok. This adaptation was mid beyond belief.
@@derrickpanciera5644 i wouldnt call it mid but giving it above a 9 or even 8.5 is just not it. there's no way this show compares to other shows of the 9.5/10 or 10/10 caliber
We needed WAAAAY MORE INFECTED
They skipped virtually all the major infected fights
The fights with the infected help solidify their relationship. Ellie NEEDS Joel in the game
@@z_cran_the_man remember the clicker everyone was jizzing over in episode two then they never showed one again. Or how they made the stupid redundant change to make the infect a hive mind where if you even step on fungus every infected within a mile knows where you are then never mentioned that again.
But kissing over strawberries gets 10/10 reviews everywhere right?
@@derrickpanciera5644 exactly!!! Our opinions may not be “popular” but they have merit!
The word doesn’t seem nearly as dangerous as it does in the game
The only letdown for me was the show's lack of infected; when you build the world around the infected and the cordyceps, it's just very jaring for them to be a rare occurrence in the show. Other than that I thought they did a fantastic job adaptating the game.
I'm actually glad we didn't get too many, the Walkers on the Walking Dead become so boring only after a few episodes. I think we'll get far more in seattle with Abby and Ellie.. Imo its a case of less is more.
But how could they shove gays and non-whites in your face if they gave you fun zombie action instead?
I completely understand the lack of infected in the show. They seemed far more dangerous in the show. Every time there was an encounter with infected, someone dies. It would feel kind of ridiculous if they were fighting off hordes of infected every week.
@@traviscue2099 I can't help but laugh over the fact that the near universal decline and criticism of The Walking Dead was how it became boring *because* of a lack of focus on the infected. I don't know if you are misremembering, but it's very clear that the majority of that show paid an exhausting amount of detail into the soap- operatic lives of the people and not the zombies - The "coverage" was actually relatively miniscule compared to the people.
@@TheKougar13 there doesn’t always need to be “hordes” it could be a couple. Multiple pairs you run into. A single clicker here n there.
Biggest letdown for me is I felt this episode was really rushed it should have been an episode of intensity where Joel and Ellie have to get thru infected and when it looks like they finally made it she almost drowns and Joel even while he has armed men pointing their guns at him his focus and goal is to revive Ellie. In this one they went straight into getting found flash bang and taken in. It missed a important scene for Joels care imo. I think they started to get a little lazy with a few episodes leading to the end especially with the lack of infected.
I think that they probably could have merged episode 4 and 5. While both love stories were great episodes, it felt a bit much with two of them. At the same time I felt like the last two episodes were a bit rushed, especially the very last one. So while I think it was very well made, it could have been better if they allocated the story of time differently
As a non-gamer, I’m glad they adapted this. It was a great season of TV!
What a ride!
And now, we begin the long wait for Season 2.
Imma be honest, Jeremy. You're the only reason I know a new episode dropped, and then I don't watch your video. But I still appreciate you and like the video
During episode 5 my wife had a siezure so every episode since then has had such a level of tension that is been pretty serial to watch.
My wife is fine so far by the way. Good as can be expected. But the natural fear association elevated the watching of the show.
Ohh goodness, hope that was a one time thing. Glad she is doing fine
I think there's so many moving parts of these "streaming shows" that things get overlooked. You have the story, set, wardrobe, prosthetics, makeup, people, film crew, and CGI effects afterwards are a few thing that make these shows.
The script has to be tweeked to make the show work. In a perfect word, the production would have $100 million budget, a year to plan, a year to shoot, and a few more months to edit and add special effects.
The Last of Us did an excellent job in what they had, the environment, acting, and end product.
Sure, but they could have added many more clicker scenes because they already had amazing clickers and other infected in full make up. So not sure why they didn’t utilise them. Many of the best clicker scenes in the game were indoors so could easily have been filmed over a day or two. Tunnel chases! Instead they added that awful CGI clickers-from-the-underground scene which was not great and looked cheap.
So they daywalkered Ellies immunity? Cant say that I needed that to be explained in that way.
I was fine thinking that she was a genetic outlier, something that sometimes happens irl.
The issue is they needed a reason to make Joel’s decision “world saving” because in the game there were other immune and the cure didn’t work, the possibility was a giant factor, but In the show they allude it being a 100% working thing. That’s my main issue
@Kestavier but that was still Joel lying about their being others like ellie.
@@xman011101 its very much left open to interpretation whether or not a cure was actually possible. I think the fireflies were too corrupt and wouldnt know what to do with a cure even if they had it. Also I doubt the surgery could have produced a cure anyway. However, since we will never know for sure it leaves Joel’s actions open to be justified or disagreed upon by the viewer. Personally I think the small chance that Ellie’s immunity could make a cure was worth it but it was certainly wrong to bring her there without letting her know she would die from it.
@@raf686 technically he wasn’t because there was others. That is cannon, but yes in his mind he was lying and I’m not excusing that. But he did the right thing
@@diofromava well with all the past failures in the cannon I disagree it is worth but I do overall agree. I do like that open endedness, although it’s a shame that it was stomped and spit on by the second game and he was demonized, Neil did a complete 180
Did you .notice the house in the beginning? It looked exactly like the house that Dina and Elly were living in in the game. The tractor was also sitting in the front of the house.
thank you for mentioning the lack of infected and the lack of weight to why we follow Ellie and Joel in the first place; that being her "cure".... when they aren't a threat in the show, who cares about the cure for it?
Exactly.
It is no more than an epidemiological apocalyptic story.
They don't need a cure since they don't seem to care about it.
So why split the girl's head? We need the cliffhanger for season two. lol
I don't understand why the last episode was much shorter than the others, but seeing that doctor get shot was oddly satisfying. No threats, no chance to think, he just did it.
It was the shortest because it adapted the shortest part of the game.
@@MatiZ815 no I definitely felt like they tried to cram everything in this episode. They didn’t adapt much of the actual hospital scenes or the lead up to it. And I think this is the episode where I think they should’ve but it felt like they didn’t have time.
@@REChronic54 After the scene at the military field hospital there is absolutely no story development in the game. Just walking through a level rearranging ladders. Hospital is just an action scene and just because it takes 20 minutes to beat it, does not mean that it can be a 20 minute scene. The only reason you feel like it’s rushed is because you can’t seperate it from the game and you keep thinking back to how long it takes to play through it.
9 episodes was not enough. It felt rushed overall. We could've had more Joel and Ellie bonding scenes, saving each other from infected and raiders a few more times. Heck, Ellie and David saving each other from the game for the last episode would've made the dynamics so much more interesting before Ellie chopped away. Needed more time to just be in this world.
I'm sure you'll love Abby in next season.
True. But overall they did a fantastic job.
@@jackmcglion8337 They could of done better.
This show felt absolutely perfectly paced for me
@@corbinmerla3451 not for me.
While I loved the adaptation, I echo the same criticisms. There just wasn't enough infected or even that much danger. I'm not looking for like twenty runners and clickers popping up like the game throws at you but the fact after episode five they pretty much peace out made this version feel too safe. They also really needed more episodes. At times the show feels a bit rushed. It's still a great adaptation but I definitely wanted more.
It'll be interesting to see how I like playing the game for the first time ever having been introduce to it through the TV show. This will be the first adaptation I play after watching the show/reading a book series. And yeah - Last of Us Remastered is $20 on the PlayStation Store right now.
I’ve enjoyed your videos weekly 🙃
Now we can look forward to a petty revenge story coming in the 2nd season.
How is it petty? Joel killed her dad
For us who never heard of the game even... IT WAS AMAZING!!! EVERY CUT SCENE WAS AWESOME!! waiting to see what happens is a great feeling!!
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 go crawl in your hole bud
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@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
@@Bobisalive Kind of ironic since you are copying and pasting this reply - instead of just...you know....Not giving so much of a fuck.
Your closing point is pretty much how I feel. Although the series doesn't capture same immersion/time with characters that the game gives, they took the important parts and made a great, digestible series for both non-gamers and gamers to watch on television. And with that in mind, they did a great job and I had a lot of fun seeing my non-gamer friends enjoy the show. I have my critiques of the show but man I'm still super happy with the product.
That "Mario" reference is definitely me. I had an Atari 2600, 5200, and 7200 growing up, followed by a Super Nintendo. I've played other systems, but I never got into gaming. I used to play the shit out of "Mario" and "Killer Instinct". With all the new game technology out there, I'd love to see a "Space Invaders" story telling game. Shit, I'd definitely play "Oregon Trail" if they made it like that. Outta the two, I think "Oregon Trail" could be a series.
Counter point to how rarely the use the infected, EVERY time the characters encounter infected, someone dies. This isn't TWD where one angry enough dude takes on a horde and comes out unscathed, literally every time the infected show up someone dies.
But given how much was done with them in EP2, they'd show up more. I'm sure we've seen in the trailers a shot of the bloater that need showed up, at the end of a big pipe or tunnel.
Once again, as someone who never played the game, I can honestly say I LOVE the show. I was pissed at the Fireflies the moment Joel woke up, then they talked about brain surgery that would kill Ellie ... I wanted Joel to go berserk! It was nice and hard to see at the same time.
I didn't like the fact that he lied to Ellie but I also get where he's coming from. Great writing, great acting and sure, we could've had more infected, but it was overall a great experience. Can't wait for season 2 although the second game is clearly not as beloved. We shall see.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
Personally I adore the second game, and in some ways it surpasses the first. But I also get why it was hard for some people. If they adapt the second season as well as the first, I know I'm going to love it but I'm curious to see how most people react
@@minafrotarules1232 Shut up already, troll. You're being reported for your constant copy and paste garbage spamming.
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
@@jbheath6678 the haters will go on a spree with the second season like they did with the game.
I loved the series the way I loved the first game. That is to say, even in its darkest moments a feeling of love or hope permeates throughout, the giraffe scene is my everything. The second game's just a bummer, especially if (spoilers) you love Joel. So I hope they pull an episode 3 level retcon for season 2, but if not I'm cool with just having this as good as it is, the way I recommend only playing the first game and only playing 2 if you hate life.
Ended in season 1?
After a certain point in the second game I just had to put the controller down and turn off the game: I never finished it. I understand the logic of the story in part 2 (I read how the game continues and ends) but I had no heart left to play on. I'm glad for you if you liked part 2 but it wasn't for me.
Unless they want to recast Bella, they really could space it out with a between-season to expand on themes and connections with a new arc, and milk Pedro's star power, more Joel & Tommy, until she's old enough for Part 2. So that could also mean skipping some years. Or condense the timeline and cut out some of the mature aspects.
The way they managed to so perfectly condense the ending of the game, and do it this well is nothing but miraculous. Straight up magic even
I thought it was ok.. I think some of the praise for this show is ridiculous
Yeah, the 'condensing' is the big problem with this show. We didn't get enough time with Joel and Ellie to feel for them. It's a good series, but it ain't no masterpiece.
@@firstlast9846 LOL
I was a little sad they didn’t add that big infected chase in Salt Lake City cuz that was awesome. We don’t really see the infected anymore after Kansas City.
i do think Video games are the ultimate media (at the moment at least) it combines so many things that a book and a movie/series simply cant compete with
Good series I wish it was 12 episodes
To cover a hell of a lot more but regardless, I loved it.
Marlene: I had 5 guys protect me and I barely made it.
Joel and Ellie: Walk in the park xD
Really good season thou!
Joel and Ellie: We saw some giraffes! It was awesome! Let's go back and do it again!
Interested to hear some other thoughts on this:
I thought Joel revealing that he tried to kill himself felt a little forced in the moment. The whole giraffe scene and following dialogue was fantastic, built the expectation that Ellie is prepared to see their mission to the end and Joel is now more focused on keeping her safe. 5 minutes later, Joel unpromptedly decides to reveal this massive moment in his life to Ellie, right before we get to the hospital. I don’t hate the scenes inclusion, in fact it adds a lot of weight to Joel and Ellie’s relationship, but wish that reveal could have had more time to sit with the audience in a prior episode.
Loved the show, agree with Jeremy that it’s pretty impossible to beat the source material, but it makes me happy that people who don’t play games get to experience it now.
Yeah i agree - heavy moment as this should have little more leading to it. Maybe few prev. shares between 2 about personal stuff, before conv escalates to this, or better placed timing for it. Not just almost randomly during walk. Felt like we could had more bonding time with them before hospital events. Almost like they tryed to cut time for this episode.
He said in the game “I’ve struggled for a long time with surviving”
It’s always been there.. they just brought it to the forefront.
@@ryanjosephdp not denying that it was alluded to in the game, but the timing of it coming up just felt off to me in the show.
@@adamegan8352 Fair... but considering how they brought up the scar in like EP 2 or 3 i think it worked. 🤷🏻
Yeah the dialogue in general has been pretty bad. All the subtlety from the game was replaced with the characters saying exactly what their thinking even though it doesn't fit their character at all. Joel isn't the kind of guy to randomly open up about his suicide attempt umprompted. The whole "it wasn't time that did it" was also super awkward.
I agree that the game is OG, but seeing this world come to life with my wife (not a gamer) was more than enough for me. Loved that this exists.
The Last of Us was BEYOND MY EXPECTATIONS 😊 🔥🔥🔥
Something I think the show set up really well is the dubiousness of the “cure”. Remember that back in episode 2, we were shown an expert in the field claiming that curing cordyceps would be functionally impossible. Perhaps the Fireflies did find a miracle, but it seems more likely that they were pursuing a doomed pipe dream. The choice before Joel was far from Ellie vs the world, but more so Ellie vs a fool’s hope of saving the world.
exactly. there was absolutely no guarantee that killing ellie to obtain what made her immune would prove fruitful. i have no doubt in my mind it was a pipe dream. developing a cure in a post apocalyptic world like the last of us was bound to fail. best case scenario the “cure” works for a few people. there’s no shot it would’ve been this 100% effective success which i believe completely vindicates joel.
Naw that just makes Joels choice have no weight at all making the ending not interesting at all
@@PeachesandCream225 completely wrong.
Just finished watching and Wow! What a finale! The most emotional episode of all 😲😱😢 Also, was happy to see Ellie's VA from the Game (Ashley Johnson) come on the show (we knew it but still), is very poetic, but also despite it being brief, you could see that Anna and Marlene had history and the latter's reluctance to kill her friend, palpable. Then you see Joel all happy and chatty, and his open expression of love and caring about Ellie made me smile. Then Joel talks about Sarah again (that part guts me every time I play the game as a dad who lost his lil girl) and just made me feel for Joel. I love that Ellie and Joel have grown closer and Bella and Pedro's chemistry sells it really well. Glad we got to see the Giraffe and have it follow the game to a t.
Terrible finale! The explanation of immunity is so boring. What is Ellie's mom was immune too and just passed the immunity on to her? We'll never fucking know because the show executed the mom and fed us this garbage origin story. I am going to save myself the trouble and not watch season 2 because obviously, this show will never get better.
@@minafrotarules1232 🤡🤡🤡
@@minafrotarules1232 are you just going to copy and paste this comment everywhere yeah? You are of course entitled to your opinion but "worst final ever"? you must have lived a sheltered life. But you also have misunderstood the episode
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@@minafrotarules1232 cool story, bro. Seriously though that's your right to think that way, but some of us liked it. Good vibes.
The only thing I missed was the while trying to find his way out of the hospital while being chased by fedra. That was the most emotional part of the game for me, trying to escape knowing you can't fight back was so intense. Other than that, great episode.
I also missed the soundtrack that played during this scene. It made the entire scenario feel a lot more tragic and impactful.
@@holysecret2 if I'm not mistaken, that's the music they played while Joel was rampaging through the hospital
Fedra? Those are fireflies XD
Also hearing the Fireflies desperately try to stop him because that is literally everything they've been fighting for. You also got to remember that this is the event that effectively destroys the Fireflies. They lose their leader, doctors, an important base of operations and lots of veterans thanks to Joel. Which sets up for part 2....
@@grinningwombat I realized on rewatch, so I'm glad the soundtrack (or at least a version of it) is included in this scene. However it was used in a different context in the game, I remember it being very impactful during Joel's escape towards the elevator.
I absolutely love the music and moments it was implemented in the game. It was a huge aspect of Last of Us for me. I feel the show really misses on all the important scenes and really shoved the music to the distant background. I wonder if anyone who didn't play the games really noticed the soundtrack.
From someone who never played the game but has read about it and seen clips of it, I was pleased by what I watched.
I wonder how season 2 will go, there were additions & changes made in this season that make me curious to see how they'll go about adapting TLOU 2. I personally did not like the story of part 2 at all, but I'll give season 2 a chance.
I didn’t hate it but some of the initial ideas for the game sound so much better than what we got. 1. Joel and Tommy killed some people when they were hunters and Abby survived. 2. Abby and co infiltrate Jackson, become one of them and then ‘ betray ‘ Joel and co. The audition for Abby would have been a good addition as well, imo. Apparently the actress was using a knife and got emotional because Joel wasn’t giving her the reaction she wanted. I just feel like more emotion/mystery on Abby’s side would have done so much better.
My only gripe with the show is it felt rushed at times and the world didn't feel as dangerous as the game. It's still the best adaptation of a game to date the performances are great production design great overall a solid 8/10 for the series
Really liked the backstory with Ellie’s mom. Marlene promising to look after her from birth, to then seeing her willing to sacrifice her to potentially save humanity just makes it that much more tragic. Wish it was a little longer however, would of liked to spend more time seeing Joel’s rampage through the hospital while trying to reach Ellie. I did like the montage tho, and seeing Joel shoot people after surrendering was great. Kinda wish he killed the women in the surgery room tho. I know they weren’t a threat, but I don’t think Joel would even be considering that in the moment. He doesn’t wanna risk anything happening, and he probably wouldn’t wanna leave witnesses behind, plus it would just add to the shock factor and would show just how far he’s willing to go to save Ellie. All in all tho great season. Wish we saw a little more infected here and there but I guess not seeing as many was a more realistic approach. Even them just coming across one that they have to try and take out would go a long way. Who knows tho, with season 2 being confirmed, maybe they’ll have a bigger budget to incorporate more infected scenes.
Him not shooting the nurses was anti-climactic, especially after rampaging through an entire population. I always thought Joel would be an equal opportunity murderer, but I guess he's sexist.
I think Joel kill the nurses lol
Something that occurred to me watching this show: Pedro Pascal's Joel is basically the same as The Mandalorian. A wandering badass tasked with looking after a special child.
I wonder if he knows that he's playing the same role twice?
Man the way joel killed those fireflies in the hospital is the joel ive been wanting to see through out the whole damn season. Savage joel 💪🏽. Wish we could have seen more of joel whooping ass like how he did in the game.
So he has unexplained super powers?
He's a silly character!
I will never understand why HBO didn't give them 10 episodes for it, 9 is weird
Same here.