Hi Jake, Bitta background I'm 33, 6ft 1 and about 88kg at 15% bodyfat. I bought your programme about 12 weeks ago and its really helped me tackle my knee, but other tendon injuries also. Last October I injured my patella skydiving. Ran a landing a bit too quickly and felt ,as you mention in this video, a pop. Nothing too bad, took a week off training and felt good to go. I was running up the stairs in the hospital a week later, when my gf went into labour, I felt and essentially knee'd the staircase step. Full snap and crack. Tendon was screaming at me in pain. I started the knees over toes programme and it made it worse. When I first got the knee injury I decided to rehab the knee and train upper body more frequently. Within 4 weeks of heavy upper body lifting I had bicep and rotator cuff tendonitis in both shoulders. Moreso on the right side than the left. Up until May everything was still so painful. I threw physiotherapy, cbd, NSAIDs and even a witch doctor ( chiropractor) at it to help. Nothing did. I slept in the spare bedroom to ensure I'd get enough sleep and supplemented with collagen, Vitamin C, magneisum, omega 3's ect....Nothing worked. I started your patella programme, and began watching most of your videos and podcasts. Now that I understood how the tendons work, and respond to exercise stimuli, I decided to switch all my upper body movements to isometrics and to continue with phase 1 of your lower body knee recovery programme. That was about 9 or 10 weeks ago. I have been finally able to beat the pain response in my shoulders using isometrics( about 5% of tightness remains but is rapidly leaving me) and my knee feels great day to day. I'm still not fully confident to load up heavy barbells but we're getting there. This is incredible information you put out here. Really hope you continue making videos to help others like me. Kind Regards, Ronan
What isometrics did you use for your shoulders? I also have a issue with my rotator cuff and bicep tendon(shoulder end). After going on a jake tuura podcast marathon its struck me that i should do iso’s for my shoulders too.
@@Jake-tm7zg Y,T,A,W raises, external rotations, thoracic spine opening, band pullaparts. Go onto E3 Rehab , have a look at their shoulder programme and apply the tendon concepts you've learned here.
Thanks for sharing. I'm here because I have trigger finger. I'm holding a heavy weight (via cable machine) for 30-45 secs once or twice a day for a few sets. After nearly a week I'm feeling less pain and getting better range of motion. I'm expecting a long time rehabing and remodelling the tendons. Once again, thank you.
As someone who has bilateral patella tendinopathy for about 4 years now every time I see your videos it gives me a little bit more hope to just keep 'loading the sucker(s).'
Jake!!! Been subscribed to you a long time, im 1 hour into your podcast on pjfperformance with Paul and its the part where you talk about ruptures happening for 30-40 year olds... you mentioned calibration a bunch.... Anecdotal here but ive been through the ringer with patellar tendinopathy since 2009 so i relate to everything you discuss... i played ABA and our owner coach at 40 played everyday and often dunked nearly everyday without a lick of knee pain or known tendon issues.... meanwhile me who studied exercise scince and rehabbed patellar tendonopathy 4 times like yourself had issues even though i did all the extras to prepare my knees for basketball..... his calibration was always on point, he could play.and dunk.without warm up... my calibration got off from work, grad school, playing volume and intensity constantly fluctuating and my own excitement the days my knees felt good.... there were about 5 times ive felt actual strain of my patellar tendons so im kind of.nervous to do the mri or ultrasound too haha
Great presentation and message: load the sucker for life, until you die, be strong! Do you know where I can find similar information for muscle belly injuries, problems, and regeneration? Thanks in advance.
i have what seems to be chronic osgood schlatters. the only resolution i hear is surgery to trim the bone from my understanding, after a doctor glanced over it when addressing a different issue. does that seem right? i have tried countless atg workouts and rest to help and while they give temp relief but as soon as i get back to the slightest bit of 'high impact' hobbies its right back to square one. is this actually something i will have to live with for the rest of my life if i dont get surgery? this doesnt feel right but i am starting to lose hope.
This was super enlightening. I broke my wrist 18 months ago, and also damaged my ECU tendon. The tendon still hasnt healed and i have pain when i put the wrist under any significant load. I will def start loading that sucker!!! do you know of any isometric exercises with weight I could do that are really good for the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon of the wrist?
Hi man! Bought your knee protocol, thx a lot for your work! Wondering is there a chance that you create protocol for achilles tendionapathy? It would be great)
Hey Jake, i love your work man. Has been very informative over the years! if someone is enduring medial epicondyle tendon pain how soon do you reckon they wait to start loading? For example if I started feeling pain a day ago, should I rest a few days or should load the next day if I don’t feel any pain?
Great video Jake . Tendon pain is a proper sucker . I been dealing with a few tendon issues over past 5 years but one in particular is the worst . I belive i have a Ilipsoas tendninopathy as its been a couple of years now on/off pain . I am having a very hard time to get the pain under control. It just seems to get irritated very frequently.. I just dont know how to treat it anymore... Any help would be apriciated
Hey Jake, thank you for this amazing video ! I am just confusing about one anatomical point : is the extracellular matrix the same that the interfascicular matrix ? Or is it two differents things ? I struggle to find good simple illustration of the difference between both of them :(
Two different things: The ECM is everything in the tendon that exists around the cells. Collagen, elastin, proteoglycans, etc. The interfascicular matrix is the matrix around the fascicles. Fascicles are mostly collagen. IFM is mostly proteoglycans and elastin.
@@jake_tuura Thank you so much for your fast response, would you have some interesting ressources that explains/shows thoses two ones more in details eventually (anatomic schema, roles, impact for clinical practice, etc) ? :)
@@arlegand ECM needs no more explanation. It’s everything but cells. IFM and fascicle distinction is shown here: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452199X21002917
Hello Jake, really enjoyed the video, nice presentation throughout. Wanted to ask, what's the book you've mentioned about tendons, you've cited it on several slides, mind telling which book is it, for further reading ? :)
I'm not sure which one I cited on the slides, but the one I suggest for people curious about tendons is Tendon Regeneration. It's the most comprehensive and easiest read.
I'm using it as a supplement, the key thing to do is move everyday, my issue was in the shoulder, now its mostly gone, what made it go was moving my arms around sporadically throughout the day combined with a 2 sessions in the gym each week and plenty of recovery. Move everyday no matter what
What about the empirical finding by Dr Keith Baar that connective tissue stuctures including tendons respond to loading only for the first 10 min and then stop responding? I think it's worth adding to your list, Jake.
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I've been busy, my husband recently gave birth to a small goat.
Thank you Kyle, this is a very (!) good video. A lot of knowledge that is hard to come by summarized in a clear and short video. Perfect work.
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Hi Jake,
Bitta background I'm 33, 6ft 1 and about 88kg at 15% bodyfat.
I bought your programme about 12 weeks ago and its really helped me tackle my knee, but other tendon injuries also.
Last October I injured my patella skydiving. Ran a landing a bit too quickly and felt ,as you mention in this video, a pop. Nothing too bad, took a week off training and felt good to go.
I was running up the stairs in the hospital a week later, when my gf went into labour, I felt and essentially knee'd the staircase step. Full snap and crack. Tendon was screaming at me in pain. I started the knees over toes programme and it made it worse.
When I first got the knee injury I decided to rehab the knee and train upper body more frequently. Within 4 weeks of heavy upper body lifting I had bicep and rotator cuff tendonitis in both shoulders. Moreso on the right side than the left.
Up until May everything was still so painful. I threw physiotherapy, cbd, NSAIDs and even a witch doctor ( chiropractor) at it to help. Nothing did. I slept in the spare bedroom to ensure I'd get enough sleep and supplemented with collagen, Vitamin C, magneisum, omega 3's ect....Nothing worked.
I started your patella programme, and began watching most of your videos and podcasts. Now that I understood how the tendons work, and respond to exercise stimuli, I decided to switch all my upper body movements to isometrics and to continue with phase 1 of your lower body knee recovery programme. That was about 9 or 10 weeks ago.
I have been finally able to beat the pain response in my shoulders using isometrics( about 5% of tightness remains but is rapidly leaving me) and my knee feels great day to day. I'm still not fully confident to load up heavy barbells but we're getting there.
This is incredible information you put out here. Really hope you continue making videos to help others like me.
Kind Regards,
Ronan
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What isometrics did you use for your shoulders? I also have a issue with my rotator cuff and bicep tendon(shoulder end). After going on a jake tuura podcast marathon its struck me that i should do iso’s for my shoulders too.
@@Jake-tm7zg Y,T,A,W raises, external rotations, thoracic spine opening, band pullaparts. Go onto E3 Rehab , have a look at their shoulder programme and apply the tendon concepts you've learned here.
Thanks for sharing. I'm here because I have trigger finger. I'm holding a heavy weight (via cable machine) for 30-45 secs once or twice a day for a few sets. After nearly a week I'm feeling less pain and getting better range of motion. I'm expecting a long time rehabing and remodelling the tendons. Once again, thank you.
Thank you so much Jake, that really was a masterclass!
Thank you
As someone who has bilateral patella tendinopathy for about 4 years now every time I see your videos it gives me a little bit more hope to just keep 'loading the sucker(s).'
Speechless. Amazing job jake. Thanks 4 sharing
Where has this video been all my life?
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The video we all needed without knowing we needed it
Jake!!!
Been subscribed to you a long time, im 1 hour into your podcast on pjfperformance with Paul and its the part where you talk about ruptures happening for 30-40 year olds... you mentioned calibration a bunch.... Anecdotal here but ive been through the ringer with patellar tendinopathy since 2009 so i relate to everything you discuss... i played ABA and our owner coach at 40 played everyday and often dunked nearly everyday without a lick of knee pain or known tendon issues.... meanwhile me who studied exercise scince and rehabbed patellar tendonopathy 4 times like yourself had issues even though i did all the extras to prepare my knees for basketball..... his calibration was always on point, he could play.and dunk.without warm up... my calibration got off from work, grad school, playing volume and intensity constantly fluctuating and my own excitement the days my knees felt good.... there were about 5 times ive felt actual strain of my patellar tendons so im kind of.nervous to do the mri or ultrasound too haha
Great presentation and message: load the sucker for life, until you die, be strong! Do you know where I can find similar information for muscle belly injuries, problems, and regeneration? Thanks in advance.
Not really, no
@@jake_tuura Thanks.
This is amazing stuff man
Banger of a video
37 mins! Let me warm up dinner😮💨 Grateful for this info always man🙏🏾
Thanks for those insights! Done and bought your program. Best one in the market for quad tendiopathy.
i have what seems to be chronic osgood schlatters. the only resolution i hear is surgery to trim the bone from my understanding, after a doctor glanced over it when addressing a different issue. does that seem right? i have tried countless atg workouts and rest to help and while they give temp relief but as soon as i get back to the slightest bit of 'high impact' hobbies its right back to square one. is this actually something i will have to live with for the rest of my life if i dont get surgery? this doesnt feel right but i am starting to lose hope.
This was super enlightening. I broke my wrist 18 months ago, and also damaged my ECU tendon. The tendon still hasnt healed and i have pain when i put the wrist under any significant load. I will def start loading that sucker!!! do you know of any isometric exercises with weight I could do that are really good for the extensor carpi ulnaris tendon of the wrist?
Interesting info...Is your Patellar Tendon Protocol suitable for people with partial tendon tears as well, or only tendinopathy?
Thank you so much for this knowledge
Interesting video
How would you address someone with both PT pain and PFPS pain at the same time?
Love your content. Can you please make a video on achilles tendonopathy and maybe the achelles tendon overall. Thank you
That was dope Jake, Thanks!
Hi man! Bought your knee protocol, thx a lot for your work!
Wondering is there a chance that you create protocol for achilles tendionapathy? It would be great)
No, get David Grey’s
@@jake_tuura thank you!
Hey Jake, i love your work man. Has been very informative over the years!
if someone is enduring medial epicondyle tendon pain how soon do you reckon they wait to start loading? For example if I started feeling pain a day ago, should I rest a few days or should load the next day if I don’t feel any pain?
Generally, you could give it a few days before loading to let it settle if the pain is very bad
How does this only have 4k views
Great video Jake . Tendon pain is a proper sucker . I been dealing with a few tendon issues over past 5 years but one in particular is the worst . I belive i have a Ilipsoas tendninopathy as its been a couple of years now on/off pain . I am having a very hard time to get the pain under control. It just seems to get irritated very frequently.. I just dont know how to treat it anymore... Any help would be apriciated
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Hey Jake, thank you for this amazing video ! I am just confusing about one anatomical point : is the extracellular matrix the same that the interfascicular matrix ? Or is it two differents things ? I struggle to find good simple illustration of the difference between both of them :(
Two different things: The ECM is everything in the tendon that exists around the cells. Collagen, elastin, proteoglycans, etc.
The interfascicular matrix is the matrix around the fascicles. Fascicles are mostly collagen. IFM is mostly proteoglycans and elastin.
@@jake_tuura Thank you so much for your fast response, would you have some interesting ressources that explains/shows thoses two ones more in details eventually (anatomic schema, roles, impact for clinical practice, etc) ? :)
@@arlegand ECM needs no more explanation. It’s everything but cells. IFM and fascicle distinction is shown here: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452199X21002917
@@jake_tuura Thank you, you're definitely the GOAT, have a very nice day !
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Hello Jake, really enjoyed the video, nice presentation throughout. Wanted to ask, what's the book you've mentioned about tendons, you've cited it on several slides, mind telling which book is it, for further reading ? :)
I'm not sure which one I cited on the slides, but the one I suggest for people curious about tendons is Tendon Regeneration. It's the most comprehensive and easiest read.
@@jake_tuura Nevermind the citation, thank you for such a quick answer, is Ana Goncalves the editor ? Amongst others
@@ivanpavlov7260 this is the full title: Tendon Regeneration
Understanding Tissue Physiology and Development to Engineer Functional Substitutes
@@jake_tuura many thanks Jake.
Jake have you used red light therapy for tendon issues ?
I'm using it as a supplement, the key thing to do is move everyday, my issue was in the shoulder, now its mostly gone, what made it go was moving my arms around sporadically throughout the day combined with a 2 sessions in the gym each week and plenty of recovery. Move everyday no matter what
Jake, have you ever taken a fluoroquinolone antibiotic such as Ciprofloxacin or Levofloxacin?
No
Stellar
Can i do single leg extension and squats and single leg press for my rehab?
Bulgarians usually hurt my back Split squats
yes
Your a decent man jake, a very decent man
Best channel out there
coach john and isaiah would definitely find this interesting
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VERY nice
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Fantastic video! Thank you very much
Let jake cook! 🔥
What about the empirical finding by Dr Keith Baar that connective tissue stuctures including tendons respond to loading only for the first 10 min and then stop responding? I think it's worth adding to your list, Jake.
You’re 3 years late to the party. We’ve all moved on from that.
@@jake_tuura Interesting. Do you mind if I ask why? Was it proven that it keeps responding after 10 min of loading or what?
@@SergeyTheBold Limitations out the wazoo with that finding… not what we’ve seen for hundreds of years with athletic development
@@jake_tuura It's probably because it was in vitro. Did anyone do a better study to find out for how long do those tissues actually respond in vivo?
@@jake_tuura Nevermind. Thanks for the valuable info, Jake. Great content!
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