Electric Dirtbike Vs 4 Strokes in Motocross Race 2023

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Electric Dirtbike Stark Varg vs 40 Riders 4 Strokes !
    Filmed by me.
    Bike : Stark Varg 2024
    Rider : Nico Dercourt, Jeremy Coen

Комментарии • 476

  • @domdemig
    @domdemig Год назад +18

    Wow!
    This is the future of MX arenas which must close because of the noise.
    What a performance too!
    What a silence, thank you.

  • @sterlingarcher1962
    @sterlingarcher1962 11 месяцев назад +55

    I grew up at the track, my dad raced, by brother raced and of course so did I. The smell of spent 2stroke fuel and the sound... BRRRRAG! BRRRRAP! literally warms my soul. The feeling I get is near indescribable.
    That being said, as sad as I am to say, petrol is dead. Now that batteries have come to the point where they are and just keep getting better, the instant torque WOW! You could see his acceleration being hampered by traction off the line keeping him from leaving them all right there. That first lap it was clear to see he just needed enough space to keep traction and he'll fly right by which he did. New era of speed we're entering with cars and bikes... an amazing time indeed. Thrilled I get to see it!

    • @Mark5mith
      @Mark5mith 10 месяцев назад +3

      Oh man, I love the smell of two stroke in the morning 😁, still got a few stroker's hiding, saying that, this was a good reason electric works, instant torque made those jumps easy Travis Pastrana was raving about how well they are suited to Motocross, given his slightly abused body, he said it made it a lot easier for him.

    • @sqd37l
      @sqd37l 10 месяцев назад +1

      i'm glad I grew up in the 70's.

    • @brycestacker9282
      @brycestacker9282 9 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome!!!!!

    • @Shadi2
      @Shadi2 2 месяца назад +1

      traction is right. tires have to be designed differently with less emphasis on rotational mass and more on traction.

  • @stevenleslie8557
    @stevenleslie8557 Год назад +9

    You can bet Japan is getting ready in case they need to release its own line of e-motocross bikes.

  • @ekhaat
    @ekhaat 11 месяцев назад

    How are these electric bikes classed against combustion engine bikes? is it on horsepower?

  • @patsquach4080
    @patsquach4080 10 месяцев назад

    Interested To hear about the maintenance on the bikes .. electric versus gas…..

  • @konradkirkman6385
    @konradkirkman6385 9 месяцев назад

    How about put a manual transmission in it so the rider has to make the right gear choice.

  • @pmac2740
    @pmac2740 9 месяцев назад

    2 strokes are the real deal, nothing else

  • @roberthagreen7881
    @roberthagreen7881 10 месяцев назад

    I get it...but sure Sucks to have to "yell" at the other riders to let them know you are there...kinda like jogging in the parks---on your "left."

  • @mittiejackson3427
    @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +13

    Yelling reminds me of the Enduro, harescrambles days.

  • @YFZriderdude15
    @YFZriderdude15 Год назад +18

    It doesn't sound as cool, but damn does it move.

  • @Krawl913
    @Krawl913 Год назад +55

    Pure domination. You are an incredible rider. That’s for sure. People don’t understand the intensity of those ruts. Let alone all the jumps and precision. Nice work.

    • @JohnLaden
      @JohnLaden 9 месяцев назад +6

      How to dominate: cut the video when other bikes pass you, like the 2-stroke at 4:55 😂

  • @jarredtremain4644
    @jarredtremain4644 Год назад +49

    Another point, if electric had own class tracks could be made alot closer to built up areas.

    • @tomdoe4295
      @tomdoe4295 Год назад +11

      Nope, people that complain about dirtbikes and racing will continue to complain even if there is less noise. Dust, environmental damage, too many people having more fun than themselves, they'll still complain.

    • @ZacharyTelesca
      @ZacharyTelesca Год назад +4

      It isn’t about the noise. It’s about happiness. You can sweat your ass off running a chainsaw all day and not one word from the neighbors. Fire up a pit bike and pissed neighbors come running.

    • @phillipzx3754
      @phillipzx3754 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ZacharyTelesca That's probaly because of the 30 db increase in NOISE. 🙂

    • @ZacharyTelesca
      @ZacharyTelesca 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@phillipzx3754 A quiet Chain saw is the same Db as a loud 450 4 stroke. And we ride 50cc-125cc 4 stroke pit bikes with full exhausts. Take that as you wish 🤷‍♂️

    • @toyman81
      @toyman81 10 дней назад

      No, because the land becomes more valuable for building houses then for the sport of Motocross racing.

  • @seanyuke3249
    @seanyuke3249 Год назад +12

    How many times did I get the urge to flick that ball of roost off...?!

  • @rogerreed9768
    @rogerreed9768 Год назад +10

    Nice seeing the electric bike doing so well. The idea of going riding, and nobody will know and complain to local PD.

  • @skogalfta
    @skogalfta Год назад +6

    for non swedish speakers Stark varg means "Strong Wolf" just a fun sidenote..

  • @lloydsmith63
    @lloydsmith63 Год назад +30

    I love my 2 stroke, but can’t ride it on my property because of the horses and neighbors. If I had an electric bike I could practice more at home and not have to waste 2 hours driving back and forth to the practice track in the middle of no where.

    • @sparky3713
      @sparky3713 Год назад +1

      Just think of the places we could put track with electric bikes.

    • @stevenleslie8557
      @stevenleslie8557 11 месяцев назад

      Bingo

  • @charliegould5865
    @charliegould5865 11 месяцев назад +101

    I’m not normally in favour of electric vehicles, but I can see the electric motorcross bikes being the saviour of the motorcross sport. With more and more people complaining about the noise from these events the quiet electric bikes could save the sport. And this video proves that there’s no loss of speed and spectacular racing.

    • @JavonandBrad
      @JavonandBrad 11 месяцев назад +2

      lol. the more things change, the more they stay the same

    • @raivis1230
      @raivis1230 11 месяцев назад +6

      People who complain are kinda dumb. nobody told them to move next to a Motocross track..

    • @michaelwhite6498
      @michaelwhite6498 11 месяцев назад +7

      For 30 years there had been a short oval race track Five years ago a wealthy person bought a house half a mile away and complauned about the noise and wanted the track closed. A cpuple of townies bought a house in a quiet village and then complained about the church bells.

    • @mustangracer5124
      @mustangracer5124 11 месяцев назад +5

      After the noise they will complain about the dust.. pissers and moaners are never happy.

    • @videoviewer2008
      @videoviewer2008 11 месяцев назад +2

      They make mufflers, they don't "have" to be loud. The noise is a choice.

  • @quikdraw19
    @quikdraw19 Год назад +18

    I would miss the smell of 2 stroke exhaust LOL. Castor oil

  • @HarborEdwin
    @HarborEdwin Год назад +73

    What is really amazing is how well Stark got the handling and suspension. That Electric is faster is one thing, that a first year release bike competes on the pro level in all categories of quality, is AMAZING.

    • @IrnMaiden304
      @IrnMaiden304 Год назад +2

      Almost like how KTM started the 4 stroke race bike craze

    • @wornknobby
      @wornknobby Год назад +15

      @@IrnMaiden304 who started the 4-stroke craze?
      Check your data, it was yamaha with the yz400f

    • @IrnMaiden304
      @IrnMaiden304 Год назад +8

      @@wornknobby Wrong, KTM was the first to do it they just didn't come in 1st place, Yamaha just gets the credit cause when they did it after KTM their bike won the race. Look it up you'll find it

    • @wornknobby
      @wornknobby Год назад +1

      @@IrnMaiden304 not wrong.
      You said the 4 stroke craze, not 4 strokes in off road. Yamaha with the tt500 would qualify with that grounding, of perhaps the xr line with their late 90s tech. Agree all of those were improvements but none started a craze. Yamaha with their completely new high revving design is what changed the sport. It is the standard now and after Henry's win was when the craze started . No other oem can make that claim.

    • @IrnMaiden304
      @IrnMaiden304 Год назад +1

      @@wornknobby I said " 4 stroke race bike craze " so the TT and the XR are not MX RACE bikes, one would think being the type of video this is, the comment would be kinda obvious that we are talking about " Off-road MX ".
      Yamaha lobbied for AMA to make an exemption rule, KTM 540SX was the first bike out to use the rule ( there's your start to the 4 stroke RACE bike craze ), Yamaha didn't have their bike ready just yet, even though it was their own plea with the AMA for exemption, they weren't far behind though, when it finally did they won.

  • @reineherrera8897
    @reineherrera8897 Год назад +24

    My god I’m going to miss the sounds of 2 and 4 strokes, but the advantages of not having to shift/worry about clutch control are just too obvious to ignore. Even more attention can be dedicated to corner entry and exit speed and just applying the right amount of throttle.

    • @harm97
      @harm97 11 месяцев назад

      It’s going to be boring

    • @joebuss8835
      @joebuss8835 11 месяцев назад

      Beyond boring. EV has NO place in anything racing... can you imagine an electric drag race or electric Nascar race...Nobody going to watch that stupid shit. The noise and racing gas exhaust fumes is what makes racing great. You guys can stuff your EV garbage

    • @petedude2lu3
      @petedude2lu3 11 месяцев назад

      transmission is still important, esp for long and technical tracks

    • @jeppo1185
      @jeppo1185 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@harm97 Not when you're lapping faster than you ever have before.

    • @jaysoniorg2950
      @jaysoniorg2950 10 месяцев назад

      @@harm97 Faster bikes aren't boring. And honestly, at least this is an organic change rather than something entirely unfair forced by a silly rule change, like the AMA and manufacturers did with 4-strokes.

  • @pepemanolo390
    @pepemanolo390 8 месяцев назад +2

    What about the sensations of the engine sound and the smell? They impose electrified shit on us that no one asks for or wants.

  • @ralphreynolds4803
    @ralphreynolds4803 11 месяцев назад +6

    When the electric bike hit that straight stretch, it simply out-horsepowered that four stroke.

  • @KelleyStrzelczyk
    @KelleyStrzelczyk 11 месяцев назад +4

    Now you can listen to audio books while you race.

  • @MX76er
    @MX76er Год назад +47

    The smooth swift delivery of electric torque is what makes this motorcycle a sport changing machine!

    • @bobeyes3284
      @bobeyes3284 Год назад +1

      As long as the race is shorter than 11 mins.

    • @RichardsCranium
      @RichardsCranium 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@bobeyes3284 Josh Hill has a video on his channel. He rode his over an hour at 100% power settings with 24% battery left.

    • @RichardsCranium
      @RichardsCranium 11 месяцев назад +4

      That and no shifting or rear brake pedal makes it much simpler to ride with proper foot position. unlimited power settings, flywheel, engine brake settings. No gyroscope effect from crankshaft. I feel like races will end up being more of a DH MTB race vibe with bells, horns, music instead of half the field with shitty running bikes sounding like hell.

    • @BrickBike
      @BrickBike 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@RichardsCranium And imagine the ability to shit talk as you’re making a pass 😅

    • @RichardsCranium
      @RichardsCranium 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@BrickBike I think that may be the best part!

  • @davessparetime83
    @davessparetime83 Год назад +5

    Electric bikes can't be in Motorcross. They would have to be in their own class with equal electric drive systems. Their are so many restrictions in Motorcross to keep the bikes even.

    • @OtisFlint
      @OtisFlint 11 месяцев назад

      Rules are always subject to change. They designed the rules so the 2 stroke couldn't compete, they can do the same again. I love EVs but i really don't want to see them be the only competitive option in MX.

    • @DolphinDivingChamp
      @DolphinDivingChamp 11 месяцев назад

      gonna be open classes run whatever you want

    • @hamjohn8737
      @hamjohn8737 28 дней назад

      Lemme get this straight, in all out "RACING" you want the Stark to be handicapped so that old technology can still compete? Is that what you want in the record as your opinion?

  • @DTM45
    @DTM45 Год назад +20

    The sport will be radically different next 5-10 years.

  • @barney1941
    @barney1941 Год назад +4

    when i was racing they had t-shirts that said better a sister in a wh@r#house than a brother on a 4 stroke 1993 or so. lol does that tell you how old i am? i had the first yz80e 1978 with mono shock $520 tax and all new! remember the RAD-N-BAD girls of the early 90s? or were you not yet hatched? great ride young man!

  • @rickking6757
    @rickking6757 10 месяцев назад +2

    How did he keep the electrical cord from getting tangled up?

  • @erhardbaehni1832
    @erhardbaehni1832 Год назад +1

    Would have saved my friend a lot of legal cost as his boys did ride his noise dirt bike on there property and by such a the nighbour did get the police etc . Stopping such doings ..I most say this is correct .. electric is the future

  • @jimhofoss9982
    @jimhofoss9982 Год назад +23

    that’s a decent 12 minute run! picking smoother lines last couple laps…or was that voltage sag😂? Nevertheless, it’s a great demonstration of how far e motocross has progressed in the last decade. They contend now.👍

    • @reineherrera8897
      @reineherrera8897 Год назад +1

      Although it would add weight, I wonder if they can make a water jacket around the electrical components like some high end custom computer builders used to do 20 years ago. Maybe running it cooler would help with a drop on voltage?

    • @RichardsCranium
      @RichardsCranium 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@reineherrera8897 they are water cooled already on the varg. combustion engines also loose power at the end of a moto...

    • @RichardsCranium
      @RichardsCranium 11 месяцев назад +7

      Josh Hill rode his over an hour at 100% power settings with 24% battery left.

    • @stevendunnuck
      @stevendunnuck 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@reineherrera8897 high end computers have radiators now. still doing it!!

    • @Comradesimon
      @Comradesimon 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@reineherrera8897batteries actually put more out when theyre hotter! If your car wont start in thr bush, warm it by a fire.

  • @LukeDupin
    @LukeDupin 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sucks. A huge part of the fun at the track is the fun. 4 strokes have already made the racing way less interesting to watch since the power band is so much more effective. This is going to kill the little bit of traction management skill left in the sport.

  • @josiahgill9610
    @josiahgill9610 5 месяцев назад +1

    In the snowboard world, getting in and out of closed terrain that normally wouldnt be accessible unless you are really good, and not caught is key. Its called SWIFT SILENT DEEP. These electric dirtbikes bring your previously just imagined riding spots that you could never get away with riding on a 2 stroke because of the noise alone to fruition. You can get in, rip a sick jump or couple of turns and vanish, leaving nothing but rubber marks. Sounds like an absolute dream to me. 🤷‍♂️

  • @markjarman7819
    @markjarman7819 Год назад +5

    Completely soulless machine. Never will care for them or own one.

    • @mittiejackson3427
      @mittiejackson3427 Год назад

      You can't ride 2 or 4 stroke either.😂😂😂😂

    • @mittiejackson3427
      @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +3

      You can't ride anyway that's why you'r watching the races.🤣🤣🤣

  • @bwhaskell
    @bwhaskell Год назад +5

    So rad! Excellent riding Nico and Jeremy! ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡

  • @eveadams8028
    @eveadams8028 7 месяцев назад +1

    That was like bringing a stealth fighter to a cesna airplane race. The lack of noise alone gives it a higher advantage. You just have to keep looking forward and speed up if you here noise behind you and focus on getting around the noise in front of you full control and concentration on voing faster and faster. That would have beenore of a challenge had you raced each lap trying to beat your fastest time having movingvobstacles showing up. That machine is amazing.

  • @douglasyoung3992
    @douglasyoung3992 Год назад +3

    Your title should probably give proper credit to the varg! People need to understand this is no Sur-ron.

  • @hillonwheels8838
    @hillonwheels8838 10 месяцев назад +1

    Watching this saddens me like when this sport went from 2t to 4t bikes. The only difference is this will be the death of the sport since I don't think anyone is going to want to watch a bunch of nearly silent bikes go around the track. With out being able to hear the roar of the engine, the thump in your chest as the bike goes by, and the smell of the race fuel being burned (my favorite is still 2t exhaust) this is going to be a lot less fun to watch. Watching awesome riders do things on 2 wheels I can only wish to do will not be enough to have me show up and watch, or tune in on tv since all I will be seeing is great riders yelling at each other as they try to pass and not run into each other. Sad days ahead.

  • @Ritter32
    @Ritter32 11 месяцев назад +1

    Seeing this pilot riding an electric motorcycle, which doesn't make any noise, completely took away the fun, I was looking at something that didn't show where the pilot was accelerating or showing his riding intensity, in short, for fans it became somewhat disappointing to see an electric motorcycle.

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi1798 Год назад +108

    Riders win, not bikes

    • @markme4
      @markme4 Год назад +12

      Not always

    • @motocrosstube
      @motocrosstube  Год назад +16

      Start is better for electric, no clutch

    • @jad2484
      @jad2484 Год назад +16

      Really? Please explain Doug Henry coming out of nowhere leading every lap in 1997 to beat all the top pros in supercross on a yz400 while everybody else was riding 250 two strokes?

    • @nate5land
      @nate5land Год назад +12

      Sorry, to butt in, because I’m not here for the argument. Electric bikes will dominate. Also, Doug Henry didn’t come out of nowhere, he was a 125 champion. That’s all I had to add, proceed. 😁

    • @ogasi1798
      @ogasi1798 Год назад

      @@jad2484 shit rider on fast bike loses to fast rider on shit bike
      That's life
      Rv, jh, TC etc etc would whoop you on an 80 if you had a 450 or some stupid ass battery bike that can't work in anything that's not Perfectlygroomed

  • @markrenton5791
    @markrenton5791 Год назад +1

    Every thing is getting more and more boring. Its even some assholes out there destroying classic cars putting electric engines in them. Soon some one will take out a Merlin from a Spitfire and make it electric.

  • @DoubleBYT
    @DoubleBYT 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just doesn’t vibe the same… something about the sound of a gasser. Not to mention it’s dangerous not hearing where the electric bike is at, your screaming didn’t do a damn thing… E bikes are alright in thought I suppose, but not a big fan! Good race!

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum Год назад +14

    I think around 4:46, a 2-stroke had caught him and passed him... that's why there cut in the video at that point Lol

    • @nate5land
      @nate5land Год назад +1

      That is a little suspect. I’m not sure though.

  • @JR113FTW
    @JR113FTW Год назад +8

    Coen was very unpredictable. Doesn't look fun to be behind him lol

  • @rchydrozz751
    @rchydrozz751 11 месяцев назад +1

    I still prefer my CR 250 2 stroke. Yes I've had 4 strokes, several.

  • @seanys
    @seanys 11 месяцев назад +1

    I will never to get used to, or enjoy, that awful whirring sound.

  • @lost_marblesadv
    @lost_marblesadv Год назад +1

    If they make changeable battery packs ( r/c cars, tools, etc). That you could swap between motos , the gas engines are finished.

  • @freezebrain4905
    @freezebrain4905 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love watching electric dominate Ice. I hope people watching understand how much better electric vehicles are. Electric is what any ice car guy has been tying to make their car with bigger exhausts turbos etc. but way simpler and just so much better. I destroyed a $350k Porsche turbo on a hiway mountain race with my Rivian, could have done it still even with this electric dirt bike in the box…

    • @Nickxb12
      @Nickxb12 10 месяцев назад

      Ma non dire cazzate😂

  • @trevorf1838
    @trevorf1838 10 месяцев назад +1

    @5:57 Some kid clearly yells out "Electrics Suck!"

  • @jamesgregware5500
    @jamesgregware5500 Год назад +12

    I would like to see a few comparable pro's run the varg up against a 450 or 500 2-stroke.... and then swap bikes to get a better understanding of which actually does dominate...

    • @josiahgill9610
      @josiahgill9610 5 месяцев назад

      There are some videos out now doing just that!

    • @hamjohn8737
      @hamjohn8737 28 дней назад

      Plenty of RUclips videos for you to search

  • @davidperry5326
    @davidperry5326 Год назад +7

    No need to be upset. Now you have a 3rd choice when it comes to dirtbikes. 4 stroke, 2 stroke or electric.

    • @bendahlstrom7407
      @bendahlstrom7407 Месяц назад

      4eva 4stroker. Mid-range hog heaven flying with style, confidence, and swagger. Anyone ridding 2stroke is on a 125 with aftermarket parts buzzing eardrums from a mile and half out. 👏😮‍💨
      🤤that dirt throwing machine of mercurial beauty. 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
      🤓😙😏

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Год назад +5

    It’s a spectator sport and without spectators watching at the track, on TV and online, it would be in trouble. I don’t think the fans want to hear 40 electric bikes squeaking around the track. 😂 They want the roar of engines. That said, I think there is a place for adding an electric class.

    • @lithium25693
      @lithium25693 Год назад

      Supercross gets way more attendance because it's in stadium located in cities moto tracks get less attendance because they are far away from cities.
      They have to be far away because of noise

    • @kurtheidelbach
      @kurtheidelbach Год назад +1

      The Supercross E 50 class is one of my favorites. No hearing protection for the kids and you can actually talk about the race during the race.

    • @roltyd22
      @roltyd22 Год назад +1

      Exactly...the sounds of horsepower not the purring and whining

    • @hamjohn8737
      @hamjohn8737 28 дней назад

      Whatever YOU think.....

  • @mikemcintosh9933
    @mikemcintosh9933 11 месяцев назад +4

    We owe a great debt to the heroes of the ICE era. The noise! The spectacle! The dexterity required to deal with throttle, clutch, gears, etc. It was an age of legends. Hard men with the courage and crazy to push the sport to the edge of the possible. Nothing is lost, or forgotten about the ice age. It was and always will be special. It will just be the second fastest way to enjoy the sport of motocross going forward.

    • @Bryanbkk
      @Bryanbkk 11 месяцев назад

      Well said.

    • @Mp57navy
      @Mp57navy 11 месяцев назад +4

      We owe a great debt to the heroes of the horse era. The noise! The spectacle! The dexterity required to deal with reigns, saddle, temperament, etc. It was an age of legends. Hard men with the courage and crazy to push the sport to the edge of the possible.
      - You, 150 years ago.

    • @mikemcintosh9933
      @mikemcintosh9933 11 месяцев назад

      @@Mp57navy Let us not forget those dauntless pioneers who rose from walking on four legs to walking on two!

    • @tuxsbro
      @tuxsbro 10 месяцев назад

      @@Mp57navy well there is a lot of respect for cowboys...

  • @jaymesdean
    @jaymesdean Год назад +6

    Wow. Almost like it’s instant power, with no clutch, and no gears to shift. Although fun to ride in my opinion, the day motocross goes to EV in sanctioned events is the day the sport dies.

    • @mittiejackson3427
      @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +1

      Not for all people.😂😂😂

    • @mittiejackson3427
      @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +2

      Electric is fast just like flipping a light switch... gone by by suckers.

    • @jaymesdean
      @jaymesdean Год назад +2

      @@mittiejackson3427 hahaha literally if you can physically handle the bike it’s like Darth Sidious in Star Wars III Revenge of the Sith “Unlimited Powerrrrrr”

    • @chadsanner792
      @chadsanner792 Год назад +1

      They’re like 600 ft lbs of torq. Insane. I hear that they’re going to make some sort of brake on the handle bars that acts kinda like a clutch in the way of slipping it to scrub off some power.
      As far as it killing the sport, you really believe that? I think it’ll change it significantly, but actually do the opposite of killing it. The sport will die as we know it, but it will most likely strengthen it as a whole. the biggest killer of the sport so far for the whole 40 years I’ve participated in it has always been sound. Even when people complain about dust it’s still typically the noise being a bigger problem. With zero noise people could ride in their yards in places never before considered. I don’t really know what direction that will take it,but I really don’t think it’s going to be death. These bikes will take over even more than the way the 4 strokes did. I by no means like the idea of that, but I also miss the races when it was all 2 strokes. I also love riding 4 strokes now. I think it would be awesome if the introduction to racing with E-bikes was separated from gas motorcycles, just so gas doesn’t disappear except for the 5-10 guys at the track that hold out and try to keep the noise alive. Pro racing will be interesting listening to the guys yelling at each other mid race.😂😂

    • @mittiejackson3427
      @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +1

      @@chadsanner792 Yelp, when I raced back in the 70's and 80's racing didn't start till 1:00 pm.

  • @wardee549
    @wardee549 11 месяцев назад +2

    I want to know what number gearing he ran? Another pro rider rode one in the woods and it was set on 2 or 3 and he said that was almost to fast. I think it goes to 6 or 8! Insane! Cant wait to ride it, my son ordered one it should be here in November yee yee!

  • @mittiejackson3427
    @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +1

    It to fast for that gasoline bullshit.

  • @john7657
    @john7657 Год назад +6

    Please don't let electric bikes take over. The sound and the smell of racing fuel is part of the mx experience. Ahhhh!!!!

  • @DUBYA-DUBYA
    @DUBYA-DUBYA Год назад +39

    In my opinion, electric is definitely gonna have its place and will be great for noise restricted areas and open many doors.. that being said, I don’t think ( or want ) they will ever take over ama pro supercross or motocross. Atleast in my life time. But I do think that if Stark wants to have a factory team race the pro series that the ama should allow them..

    • @2smokejoke
      @2smokejoke Год назад +11

      Or let the same cc 4t and 2t run with each other???? That’s what we all actually want to see

    • @jg102xc
      @jg102xc Год назад +2

      No clutch, no shifting, no way.

    • @zackk695
      @zackk695 Год назад +2

      4 strokes took over so the electric bikes could do the same. As the guy mentioned above the 2 strokes now have to race a class higher which is just ridiculous. The only issue I have with a 4 stroke is the sound. The 2 strokes sound so much better and the sound is critical to the fan base as well as small kids who will be the future of motocross. An electric bike is silly but there will be someone out there that likes them. This goes to show we can’t drift far from what a true race bike should be. Hell they restricted the sport for the damn 4 stroke making their own classes and making two strokes step up to the next class. Such crap and the reason so many have no interest anymore and not gaining new fans. The sport is a tough blue collar sport yet the bikes are not affordable to them so the bikes from the beginning are falling into the hands of the wrong kids. Middle class and poor kids need a chance to ride and race

    • @zackk695
      @zackk695 Год назад +1

      @terracer I tell you that the two strokes are far superior than any 4 stroke. This is way they make them race a class up and restricted the pro class to 250 and 450 now. I really don’t have an answer but I know it’s not the EPA because after some research it was Honda and Yamaha pushing these 4 strokes and why I don’t know because Honda had the best 2 stroke ever. I turned my back on motocross in the mid 2000’s and next thing you know all the 2 strokes were gone. It was sickening. If the EPA was behind this then they wouldn’t be making 2 strokes still which they still do. The other issue is no one wants to buy them only to have to race a class up which is not fair and just stupid when you think about it. If it’s a 250 then it should race the 250 class period. Also if you think of all racing the EPA can’t do anything to them such as all car racing and also superbikes and all those out out a heck of a lot more fuel in the air

    • @mittiejackson3427
      @mittiejackson3427 11 месяцев назад

      @@zackk695 let's see middle class and poor kids get off there LAZY butts and work and buy a bike and lay down those x boxes and skate boards. All they want to do is walk the streets and show off tennis shoes.... the hell with them lock them up and feed them beans.

  • @mittiejackson3427
    @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +4

    You can keep all that 2 stroke noise and smoke.

  • @kennblair9358
    @kennblair9358 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have a question. Was the rider yelling at the other riders as he was going to pass to let them know he was there? Could they really hear him if he was?

  • @billmacfarlane4083
    @billmacfarlane4083 Год назад +2

    How is the classes sorted? I mean is there some way to equate the capacity of an electric bike so it's comparable to cc's?

    • @cuzzman01
      @cuzzman01 Год назад +2

      Horsepower maybe. then dial the Electric bikes to match the 4 strokes

  • @bobjones6154
    @bobjones6154 Год назад +2

    anyone else notice at least half the track marshalls not paying attention, just staring off into space? that was sweet though.

  • @joecarr9476
    @joecarr9476 11 месяцев назад +1

    Right about now the officials are asking, "What are we gonna do about these electric bikes?" Personally they seem like fun but a race of whisper quiet bikes, just wouldn't attract me to a day at the races. Also part of the emotion of racing is the sound. I'm an Old 2 Stroke guy who use to race in the 80's and saw the introduction of 4 strokes and 2 strokes fazed out. We use to have a 4 stroke class where people mainly raced YZ two stroke frames with XR Honda motors, long before the companies were making four stroke racers, my point is that we had a separate class for 4 strokes as the main bikes were two strokes, I think Electric bikes should have their own class, we should though bring back 2 strokes, perhaps race 380cc 2's against the 450cc 4's

  • @chucktrotter9699
    @chucktrotter9699 Год назад +1

    9.29.23 Where is this race at? How did 661 beat the Stark on the start? Like seeing the Stark racing and beating the gas bikes. The test will be how the Stark will hold up doing more races. Is this the Open Pro Class?

    • @Fatonzzz
      @Fatonzzz Год назад +1

      661 was on an electric bike also.

  • @gladegoodrich2297
    @gladegoodrich2297 Год назад +1

    Is it you or the bike?
    Your a very good rider!

  • @markdittbenner9949
    @markdittbenner9949 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's clear gas powered dirt bikes will be slow noisy antiques very soon...a gas powered bike will be a complete joke...give ele another year and gas bikes will simply not be able to keep up ....😂..just the way it is...

  • @Rubik3x
    @Rubik3x 11 месяцев назад +1

    Was 661 also on an electric bike (see 1:38)?

  • @latebraker
    @latebraker 11 месяцев назад +1

    actually will open the way for mx tracks in suburban areas that will be electric only and won't get closed down due to noise.

  • @microsoftteams2663
    @microsoftteams2663 Год назад +1

    I'm sold. Where can I get one?

  • @alanbarlow2514
    @alanbarlow2514 Год назад +12

    For this race the bike was actually dialled down to match the horsepower of the four strokes. If this was cranked up to its max the gap would be ridiculous. Hard pill to swallow for us but it looks like this may be the very near future. Its a sad day for Mx

    • @MatteoLorandi
      @MatteoLorandi Год назад +4

      I don’t think its’s necessarily a sad day, this may be faster, but motorsport, for most people, js about fun, not performance, and the level of fun that ICE provides will never be matched.

    • @SkarTisu
      @SkarTisu 11 месяцев назад

      Change is always bad

  • @mittiejackson3427
    @mittiejackson3427 Год назад +2

    Damn that thing is rolling 🤣😲

  • @Axios31
    @Axios31 Год назад +1

    Well, so much running the hell out of your bike to get the blue exhaust badge 😂 i dig these electric bikes 🤙🏻 always gonna be a gasser fan tho 🤘🏻

  • @SkarTisu
    @SkarTisu 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was really satisfying to watch. Well done!

  • @YTFPV
    @YTFPV 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing we all lost so many spot cause of the noise and yes not having clutch is one less thing to worry

  • @_mids
    @_mids 24 дня назад

    This is definitely a game changer can’t wait to see where we’re at in say 5 years this is going to be like formula1 on dirt 😂

  • @scotthenry-hs2po
    @scotthenry-hs2po 2 месяца назад

    I'm a 2 stroke MX BIKE person but strangely enough. I think electronic MX will be faster and ,a lot better for indoor motor cross

  • @mrentrepreneur7965
    @mrentrepreneur7965 6 месяцев назад

    These are all GEN 1 MX-e bikes... The GEN 2s are now the end of the ICE BIKE.Alta=Gen1 Was :Innovation, Stark Varg=GEN 2 is :Domination

  • @Craiglife777
    @Craiglife777 Год назад +4

    Comparing an E-bike to a fuel burner is like comparing an BBQ to a microwave oven, a microwave oven will cook faster, but no one ever wished for a microwaved steak. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

  • @terrybible1545
    @terrybible1545 Год назад +1

    If a guy yells at me when he's going to pass me I just might go and punch him the face after the race

    • @jaymesdean
      @jaymesdean Год назад

      Only place I agree with it is GNCC racing

    • @jeromejeffrey
      @jeromejeffrey Год назад

      They were lappers and needed to get out of the way.

  • @squidcat11
    @squidcat11 11 месяцев назад

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
    STOP usingFisheye Lens when recording ANY video‼️‼️

  • @danabuch324
    @danabuch324 10 месяцев назад

    What a joke. Now put it up against a good 2-stroke. They made 125 2-strokes run against 250 4-strokes and 250 2-strokes run against 450 4-strokes because 4-strokes are so heavy and slow. Remember that the AMA/Harley Davidson had 2-strokes banned in flat track racing because Ray Abrams beat the 750 4-stroke tanks with a measly little 350 2-sroke twin. Had the same power as the Harley but weighed 100 lbs. less. It wasn't close. Take a good modern 2-stoke engine like the BRC Yamaha and KTM based 500 engines that have a balance shaft, EFI and even electric start, put it in a modern frame and suspension and it would destroy the 450 4-strokes (you can even bore the 450s to 500) and the battery powered kiddy toys.

  • @charliemetz1280
    @charliemetz1280 Год назад +1

    take it home, plug it in. I'm sorry.

  • @vincentrobinette1507
    @vincentrobinette1507 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm not surprised that the E-bike had that much power, but rather, that it could do it that long on one charge! That was incredible.

    • @denislopez373
      @denislopez373 10 месяцев назад +1

      Do you think they run on AA batteries or something??

    • @scrrt3771
      @scrrt3771 10 месяцев назад

      crazy enough i bet its not even at 50%

    • @vincentrobinette1507
      @vincentrobinette1507 10 месяцев назад

      I think the next size up...18650 Lithium Ion cells (Li-Ni Co Mn)@@denislopez373

  • @LMActionsports
    @LMActionsports 6 месяцев назад

    Video after video of the start varg just truly impressing me even though I love the smell of two strokes. But times are changing and Stark has truly built a competitive bike. Now if they can just get those batteries to last a full 3 hours for a GNCC race you will see a lot of people racing them. Great ride by the way you are the got past him easier if he wouldn't have did such a good job blocking you but as soon as you got the first chance all he saw was your rear end ride by😊

  • @mustangracer5124
    @mustangracer5124 11 месяцев назад

    Like an aluminum baseball bat.. the 'tink' just isn't like the crack of the wood.
    the growling engine sound is half of the race experience.

  • @davidpratt4258
    @davidpratt4258 Месяц назад

    Im always gonna be a 4 stroke person no matter what but this thing looks fun

  • @ralphreynolds4803
    @ralphreynolds4803 11 месяцев назад

    LOL, will the AMA disallow these new electrics to race against the comparatively underpowered four strokes?

  • @harm97
    @harm97 11 месяцев назад

    Even if they are faster,I don’t care!! It’s not fun to ride or watch for the crowd.imagine a race with no engine sound,the smell of a race engine…just a field full of vacuum cleaners sound🤮it’s over for me if that happens! Don’t promote these electric dust busters!!! It’s a shame for the sport

  • @rudetoy8264
    @rudetoy8264 11 месяцев назад

    For people that are still hide behind ICE (internal combustion engine) just wake up to embrace and get on board with EV advancement. That winning bike is just 3-phase motor and old lithium-ion battery. There are stronger EV engine and lighter solid state battery coming soon

  • @Handirifle
    @Handirifle 11 месяцев назад

    Ok now have a refueling race, see who wins. Or better yet, a cross country race, that requires refueling at least twice. Then compare costs. So with the elec to compete, it would HAVE to be a battery swap, as there is no time to charge. At a cost of at least several hundred dollars per battery, the obvious winner will be the gas powered bikes. You also hear VERY LITTLE about battery and elec motor life, from the pro elec crowd. That ALL adds to total cost of operation.
    Electrics can be fun, but this thing of forcing it down peoples throats as the salvation of the planet is a total lie. Especially as power grids get weaker and weaker as more plants are shut down, just imagine trying to take a trip, only to find the grid is down, or like we see here in CA, the governor asks you not to charge, so people can have AC.

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 11 месяцев назад

    EV has no power band just 100% hp at all RPM unlike a combustion engine has a curve. The day when someone figures out battery side will be the end of combustion engines.

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 11 месяцев назад

    Thing is, if all the bikes were electric, none of the neighbors would complain about the noise/smell. Could have more tracks in more places...

  • @rudetoy8264
    @rudetoy8264 11 месяцев назад

    Technology that help people do better, will always come out ahead. Visualize dog fight between Wright Brothers plane and an F15, you are with serious face and tell me it’s about the pilot?

  • @commantrosexetlos4700
    @commantrosexetlos4700 10 месяцев назад

    80hp vs 60hp...after a year e bike will 9verheat and burn..simple

  • @HandleCarefully925
    @HandleCarefully925 11 месяцев назад

    You cannot compare motorcycles against each other like this. One of the previous comments stated it’s the rider, not the bike. This is perfectly correct. Take the electric bike and give it to another rider and the electric bike will lose, possibly proving that e-bike are not up to par. Do a proper test. Same rider, same track, same conditions, timed laps, same tires, etc. this video proves nothing!

  • @bigcamracing219
    @bigcamracing219 11 месяцев назад

    So, 250 two stroke gets “beaten” by 450 4 stroke. So now their going to do it again, pit a bike with better hp output against another for the win.
    Apples and oranges, they need to bring back 500cc two strokes to compete again!

  • @dennismckean8773
    @dennismckean8773 8 месяцев назад

    That was boring as hell. The guy riding the electric bike did a great job just flipping boring.

  • @andrewcastillo5003
    @andrewcastillo5003 11 месяцев назад

    It's fast but it's quiet for me that means the voices will get louder also it's a safety hazard, but running a generator on cheap pump gas rather than expensive race fuel, 🤔

  • @mikehoncho7165
    @mikehoncho7165 5 месяцев назад

    Other than sounding like a Barbie Jeep toy, it's pretty cool.

  • @notagain8661
    @notagain8661 2 месяца назад

    The death of all motor sports. The dentist drill! ZZZzssss!

  • @rustyfan89
    @rustyfan89 11 месяцев назад

    It is what it is if that’s the direction this sport is going then that’s the way it’s going get used to it , just like I’m not a fan of four strokes as growing up with 2 strokes I associate the smell of 2 stroke exhaust with Sunday , race day!, doesn’t mean they are not good but that’s not what I was used to