Jetlike Evolution Aircraft Is Making A Comeback
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The evolution turboprop aircraft is by far one of the best performing turbine powered airplane in the market today.
An experimental as presented, there is still a lot to love about this plane. Evolution started as a Lancair product. And if you know anything about Lancair, they only build speed machines. No difference when it comes to the once known Lancair evolution. Unfortunately like many other aircraft manufacturers, Lancair had been plagued with financial struggles to keep the company above water.
Lancair sold the evolution aircraft to a new owner a few years ago and now they are making a comeback. This plane is truly a gem of built well. At a price point of $1.5 million, you’ve got yourself an equivalent of a 4 seater light jet.
Here are some specs about the evolution.
Engine : Pratt & Whitney pt6 750 hp
Speed: 280 kts
Useful load: 1,800 lbs
Range: 1000 miles
Price: $1.4m - $1.6m
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400 vs 4000 ft/min
I only found this one…. Were there more?
A 310hp Mooney can exceed 2k’pm in climb…
4k’pm is a great way to get to the FLs!
And… the other single engine, retract, that is turbine and pressurized… is the Evolution’s little sister…
Lancair IV-PT
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@@AC-jk8wq Not even close to that. Laughing. A Mooney is a clunky, draggy, all metal, rivet ridden beast. If an all carbon viber Cirrus SR22T climbs at about 1200 fpm at sea level, no way a Mooney does nearly twice that on the same engine.
@@speedomars3869 OK, you are right…. The clunky 310hp, normally aspirated, IO550 powered, Mooney only climbs out at 2kfpm…. Not quite 2X. 😃
Sort of a first world problem.
The nice part of composites… all those smooth complex curved surfaces…
The back side of composites… they are not very light…
At altitude…. The aerodynamic drag is very much reduced.
Getting to altitude… The extra weight never lightens up.
For a pair of TNs… the power never drops off with altitude.
Climb rate is all about excess hp…
T/O distance is all about hp/wt ratio… or speeding from 0 to 65 kias…
The IO550 is pretty amazing…
Still not quite Evolution performance, but it is factory built. 😃
@@AC-jk8wq Mooney defenders and braggarts have 3 big problems. 1. they either lie or exaggerate specs and performance to make their purchase feel less dumb 2. they usually find 'fault' with superior technology and superior products due to that defensiveness. and finally 3. they really hate that Mooney went out of business due to lack of sales and being unable to compete with Cirrus.
I own evolution N424SM which is in some of your stock video. Happy to take you for a spin sometime. I’m a big fan of you and your channel.
I will look you up next I'm out west Brian. Can you please shoot me an email mike@mojogrip.net?
@FlyingwithBrian Would you be wiling to share what are the costs of ownership? Possibly interested to own one…
Brian, what a generous offer! 🙂
Take me! Please. :)
If you're going to look at that in person, how about N844X - Austin Meyer's Evolution? He opted for an 850-horsepower PT6. I'm sure you already know that he is the founder of Laminar Research (X-Plane flight simulator). He is also not too far from where you're based. Since he also has his own RUclips channel, you could collaborate and end up with content on both channels.
My buddy has this plane (as well as an Epic jet). Very respectable performance. I wish he’d sell it to me.
Its great to see some fresh content on this plane.
Imagine a turbine DA50 with this performance 🤤
Diamond makes something similar - a turboprop two-seater used for military training. It is aerobatic qualified. So the technology is in their wheelhouse...
@@FamilyManMoving the Dart 550 just found it
would like to see one with a Diesel powerplant.
Your content just keeps getting better. Thank you for the channel!
What they really say is the easiest way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a large one.
I can only dream of an aircraft like the Evolution 😔
The inside looks a lot like the Columbia 400. Very nice to fly
dude I'm getting old I need a bathroom flying over 800 miles without a co-pilot
That was an interesting and informative video, Mike. Have a great October.
The Evolution(as an experimental) cannot fly into KNOWN icing conditions!
Really I’ll have to research that since the evolution Can fly over 20,000 ft. Can be Subzero degrees up there no?
This is a true statement
You are correct in that it does get COLD up there(SubZero). Now, that being said, two conditions must be present for icing.: freezing temperature & moisture. if only one of those conditions is present, then no worry about ice forming on the aircraft! I think it is a rule that ALL experimental aircraft are not allowed to fly into KNOWN icing conditions. But, I understand that since Evolution is being built by another company, I think they have an option where they have some deicing equipment on the leading edge of the wings if the pilot inadvertently runs into non-reported icing conditions to assist before he can deviate to another altitude.
Seriously, KEEP up the good work! I LOVE your channel. As a black man, I am MOST happy to see young black men such as yourself making a living in Aviation. Much more now than when I was in. I used to fly professionally a long time ago. But, life forced me out of the profession. You have inspired me to become an aircraft owner and to start my own aviation business. I am now busting my A** to get the money for the initial investment for my 1st two kitbuilt aircraft. And yes, you also convinced me to one day buy a Sling TSI.@@mojogrip
@@mojogripbelow -4°F icing is rare due water being in ice crystal form.
Last I read, that JMB will be adding thermal de-icing on these.
I agree, this is a wonderful design aircraft.
Another well done video. I am a retired 7500 hr ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI with absolutely NO experience with experimental s. Just curious, have you looked at either the safety record or reported flight peculiarities of this aircraft? And you are correct, this thing is a pressurized beauty!
Enthusiast good video. As far as the plane looking possibly tight or cozy, I wonder if your opinion will change when you see one in person. I don't have any experience with the evolution but I know that I am sometimes very surprised when I see a plane in person and it looks dramatically larger than what I expected it to look. Case in point, the first time I ever saw a quest zodiac in person it was huge. So again, I'll be interested to see if when you see the plane in person if your opinion changes about the roominess inside. Because at first glance I agree with you.
It's a lot a bang for the bucks. I deal for those that can afford larger turboprops. The turbocharged, pressurized piston with 350HP would give Cirrus SR22T a run for the money. If I won the lottery tomorrow I would take either one.
The Lycoming IE2 550 cubic inch engine has 400HP at takeoff and 350HP continuous output. This was the chosen ICE piston engine
I agree with you....... it's beautiful and kind of retro with those exhausts but jet like....and the performance figures.......knocks it out of the park.....great specs too.
That was another great video dude, I enjoy watching your videos👍
Mojo ... thanks for the video ... never knew this aircraft existed !!! I dreamt Vision ... looks my Vision has "Evolved"!!!
I know a fellow that built a Lanceair and put a turbo prop engine in it in the late 90s. It was mostly made of carbon fibre. I picked up the wing, and it weighed nothing. I heard that it could climb at 10000ft min
this plane is so beautiful. thank you for the video
Love this unicorn ❤
Nice presentation Mike!
Thanks for the video!
Great vid, Mike. Didn't realize it was such a wonderful AC. Makes my clubs A36 look puny.
Yes! I have waited a long time for this! 🍿
Would you tell us the name of the company that offers insurance for the Evolution, please?
Thank you 🙏
What about the EPIC...cruises at 330knots !
Wait, I jumped up and down when I heard 4k ft a min. Then I saw it being 400. Then, I realized that you did that intentionally. Then I realized, I'm 3 months late. LOL
Anyhoo, I LOVE this plane and channel. You constantly bring to light planes that might otherwise be overlooked. I'm way more comfortable looking at Experimental planes than I am built in a factory ones now. I get benefits to both but, Experimental should get more attention. Especially in today's time. Unfortunately, a lot of these planes are just as expensive. So, lot of daydreaming happening.
I do enjoy those wooden control sticks. Makes controlling the aircraft a little more personal for some reason. Wood becomes yours.
Problem with the Lancair lineage- they had the reputation of disproportionately becoming smoldering lawn darts. So... insurance is an issue, as is demand/resale.
a friend burned up in his harmon rocket, fires no joke and experimental
@@AlanMydland-fq2vs rocket stats
HRII HRIII
Span 21Ft. 10in. 20ft.
Length 21ft. 6in. 21ft. 6in.
Height 5ft. 6in. 5ft. 6in.
Wing Area 109 sq. ft. 99 sq. ft.
Wheel Track 6ft. 6in.
Empty Weight 1200 lbs. 1080 lbs.
Gross Wieght 2000 lbs. 1800 lbs.
Useful Load 800 lbs. 720 lbs.
Power Loading 5.9 lbs/hp 4.5 lbs/hp
Wing Loading 16.4 lbs/sq ft 18lbs/sq ft
Fuel Capacity 42 gal 47 gal
Seats 2 1
Power lyc. 10-540-c4b5/250hp lyc. 10- 540-400hp
2575 rpm 2900 rpm
Propeller - Hartzell 80in. dia. 78in. 3 blade
Crusie Speed 75% 230mph 260mph
Econ. Cruise 55% 215mph 230mph
Redline 275mph 310mph
Rate of Climb (Gross) 3100fpm 3600fpm
Stall 55mph 58mph
From my understanding, if your in the pattern downwind 1000ft AGL and lose the engine your chances of making the numbers are slim!
I really like this guy. Great video buddy
Comfort is being able to relieve one's self. No doubt about it, the Evolution is an excellent airplane.
What I'd love to see is aerospace engineering applied to manufacturing like Honda and Toyota did for the automobile industry. The industry needs CHEAP but fast and outstanding aircraft.
Other than speed, I'd consider the TBM a much better airplane, thus the price delta. When carrying a load and having the versatility to fly into more rugged strips, I think I'd put my money on the Pilatus over the Lacair. Cost not an option - I wouldn't give the Lancair a second glance over the TBM 960 or the latest Pilatus. The Lancair looks sweet, but when it comes to hauling big stuff into a muddy airstrip, or having to rely on good customer support, etc.. I'd stick with the more standard aircraft. Keep up the good work with your vids.
the plat😂
Great plane and video as always. For a moment I thought this would be about a Revolution Tango or Foxtrot. I can't seem to find much info on them outside of their website and would love to know your take.
The biggest problem I have with lancair aircraft is the left side stick. I've never been able to get the feel for it.
My dream plane. 👍
witch one is now nr 1 4seater ...velocity, moonaer, cirrius, dimand, lincair, ect range, speed, stall, costs
Very informative.
5:54 Which is right? 4,000 ft/min or 400 ft/min?
7:04 Correction, that's about 3 American adults.
4,000 Ft/min would be more like it, 750HP and a big prop make it happen. 400 ft/min is like Cherokee 140 performance on a good day.
Sadly true. Three adults, their clothing and their lap dog.
"The average American man 20 years old and up weighs 197.9 pounds . The average waist circumference is 40.2 inches."
Beautiful airplane!
FYI, you can find some Cessna Centurions pressurized as well from the piston/single engine world. You should check one of those out if you haven't already. Really nice planes.
What a beautiful airplane.
I would not want to fly uncomfortably fast. The comfort and second door are a must to have.
4000ft/min not 400ft/min in the video. Love the channel!
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Interesting video. Nice one
Love your channel!
Man Mo, that is a beautiful plane. Like glassair sleek and fast... Harder on the hip pockets though. The Lanceair LX7 is a long this type air craft. Not much difference in price or and close in performance....
Can we get some sort of update on the Stratos? Love all your content.
Great video. For the money… TBM would make more sense to me
Essentially you are comparing Experimental to Certified. It would be interesting to get some deeper information about the factory move to the Czech Republic. Apparently there is supposed to be production but will it be a certified aircraft?
The company is JMB Aircraft in the Czech Republic.
They are calling it the Evolution Turbine EVOT-750
The photo of ZU-EVO is taken at my local general aviation airport, Virginia Airport Durban South Africa. This is where I learned to fly in 1971
We use the same saying in the music industry... You want to make a million dollars, you need to spend two million.
Isn’t this the aircraft that has an issue with flat spins? Please correct me if I’m wrong. As for speed, 20 or 30 minutes difference in arrival times is nothing when compared to the comfort larger aircraft offer in my opinion. Nice video, thanks for sharing it.
a 182 is hard to beat for room
Cool vid man.
Sooo... Will this be the replacement for 1 Mike Golf?
Thanks for sharing,new sub to ur channel, I just wonder how is it going to be flying with a side stick
And I also wonder how much is the insurance cost for a low timer like myself 🙏
It's great to see fresh content around this airplane. As a pilot actively looking to purchase an EVO, there isn't much current and relevant content around this plane and what it takes to transition into this from say a Cirrus SR22T
I’m a current EVO owner and transitioned two years ago from a G3 SR22TN - more than happy to connect and talk about the transition experience
The plane was designed with prior Cirrus owners in mind as an initial step up into the TurboProp and Pressurized world. EVO is a fantastic plane with incredible useful load, top tier performance, reliability of a PT6, benign flight characteristics (unlike some other Lancair products) which make it an exception platform to transition into for a SR22
Also I see a lot of comments on interior space - there is more space in an EVO than a SR22
Also my fuel burn is 32 gallons hr at 28k at 275 TAS
Built/Owned N188PT. Wish I had it back! FL 280, 35 GPH @ 285 knots with the 135A engine. Dream to fly - fit me like a glove. Mine is/was reliable. OPEX are attractive (low) other than insurance unless you pay cash and self insure. 4,000 FPM climb up to ~ 10,000’ then it falls off as engine temp maxs out. Make the commitment to flight training with focus on emergency procedures.
As always.. you're the best 🏆 brother 🙌🏻
Beautiful aircraft. Like baby Pilatus PC21's
Hi guys. I want to start manufacturing propeller blades. What should i make first?
website address of this builder?
why don't you ever mention them? ?????
The LX-7 is a worthy mention as well. It too started life as a Lancair
Excellent video
Thank You for making this it has very good information and I enjoyed it a bunch 👍🏼
If money was no object, this is the one I’d buy. Actually the LX7.
I though the same thing till I sat in the lx7….way too small. Evolution is much larger inside
Mike, check out the LX 7 as well…
i think the reason might be the price and fuel burn for a 4 place aircraft....
what do you think of the a5?
Like real talk bro, how many times they thought you werr stealing the plane pr asked you where you were going when you stepped out of the doors of the FBO to go to the aircraft? Happens to me right up to this day..right up to 3 days ago in Beufort, NC. Can't tell you the amount of time they called security on me, and even had other pilots asking me pilot questions just to verify I am a pilot even though I show them my cerificate THAT HAS A TYPE RATING ENDORCEMENT ...fk this place. I am moving back to Barbados in January...started my own air cargo business.
Does it have de-icing?
I’d love to hear your opinion as a pilot about another underlying difference: well proven brands with well proven technology and performance versus experimental models. I know this would be like comparing oranges and apples, but the technology and well proven experience put into a Pilatus cannot even compare to an experimental.
Lancairs are famously unstable at low speeds. In fact, they're so deadly that you can't get them insured anymore.
@@Maniac742 interesting!
@@Maniac742EVO has completely different handling characteristics vs other Lancair planes
@@EVOT-N621SS Probably true. The insurance situation isn't any better, though. Getting experimentals insured is difficult and very costly.
@@Maniac742 Respectfully, that’s an overly broad non-fact based statement. With respect to the Evolution you are wrong. I’ve owned serial# 028 N13PF for some time and love it. Once you complete transition training it’s pretty much as easy to fly as a Cirrus SR22 except with the speed things happen faster. It’s not the plane that’s the issue it’s the proficiently of the pilot that’s the issue. Fast means you have to be on your game.
Regarding its flight characteristics it’s very docile and predictable just a hell of a lot more performance. It pretty much has the same rotation and approach to landing speeds as a Cirrus SR22. Also very comfortable and surprisingly a lot of cabin room.
Nothing can match its mission. I often fly from Dallas to Minneapolis nonstop in ~3hrs. I can also fly from Minneapolis to Miami non-stop with IFR reserves easily.
I would think with 750hp, you could top a 300 kt cruise with this aircraft.
Horsepower is a bit of a misnomer in the turbine world. It can do the speed but there are trade-offs turbine operators have to consider.
First, alll published turbine HP’s are published at sea level. As they climb the lose horsepower. Most Evolutions are powered by the 750HP PT6A-135A which at its most fuel efficient cruise altitude of 28,000ft puts out about 300HP. Which yields about ~275kt at ~32 GPH. If you fly lower, say 25,000ft you can get to 300KT but your fuel burn jumps to 42+GPH.
Some Evo’s were built with the 850HP PT6A-42 which can hold more HP up higher. There it will do 300KT cruise at 28,000 with a fuel burn around 38GPH and 325KT around 50GPH. The trade-offs are speed fuel economy and engine longevity. The harder you push your expensive PT6A shorter it’s time between overhaul and PT6A overhauls are not cheap.
Most of us pull it back a bit and run the engine cooler, save fuel and extend range. These trade offs are not unique to the Evolution. They apply to all turbine’s whether it’s TBMs, Pilatus PC-12’s and Piper Meridians etc. What manufacturers publish in their marketing materials is almost always best of best case scenario pushing the engine hard. Their goal is not necessarily honesty but to sell airplanes.
speed costs😂
The Evolution is a true "balls to the walls" get there aircraft
Hi Mike - TBM700s are available used $1.2-$1.5M depending on equipment, not $3M.
send links cause if thats the case im buying now! never seen 2nd hand at that bargain price
TBM 700’s can be very expensive to maintain and do not offer the same performance. Part of the reason they go for less.
It is much better to get a used plane. Builders are very fanatical with their projects. But most builders don't consider the build time into the sale price. 3000 hours of free skilled labor is a deal.
That's Austin Meyers
It’s a whole lot bigger than you think it is…
Awesome aircraft. But the commitment to self build is massive, many thousands of hours. People have done it solo, but i think that most builders use professional assistance, which is legal. Buying the kit and handing it over completely to a professional to build is also done, but I think that's a grey area, as really that professional becomes an uncertified manufacturer, whereas in the FAA rules the homebuilder supposed to be the builder of an experimental.
You forgot to include Epic 1000 in your "comparative analysis" ...
What ever happened with the Legand turbine?
They would probably sell allot more, if they had a 6 place
alo from Brazil....
7:09 "That's 4 American Adults" LOL! That's a meaningful distinction! If you can afford a Lancair Evolution, I guess you can afford lots of smoked BBQ and cornbread. You young kids have bigger balls than me. Here is a thought. Feedback is appreciated. If I were going to spend $2,000,000 on a kit that would try to kill me at every opportunity, I'd just buy a highly fungible TMB 960. TBM will be around and tech support will be around for as long as you own the Airplane. Experienced A&P's and parts to service it. Let's be honest. If you have $2 million to throw at an airplane, you can come up with $4 million. When you have millions to throw away on superfluous travel you are a very valuable person who probably shouldn't risk your life in experimental aircraft. You have families, businesses, and employees who desperately depend upon you! If you are that guy, and you die, it will wreak havoc on the lives of 100+ people, minimum. Thanks, MojoGrip again for your fun and informative videos
I made it flip to 1k :)
For over 1 million, I will pass.
Isn't the Lancair 4 / Propjet faster?
If you’re looking at a TBM class airplane you’re not wasting time with that category, you’re looking at an Epic e1000 because you’re smarter and want to be the coolest guy on the ramp. If you’re looking at an Evolution, you should be looking at the RDD LX7 as a comparison not these other ACFT in the video which have nothing in common with a little playboy toy. It’s like comparing a minivan to a Lamborghini.
"Coolest guy"..."playboy toy". Curious. What sexy beast do you own?
Prices need to come down... still too high
Lancair costs less than TBM, Pilatus, and Piper because it's smaller and carries less people and cargo.😊
$1M+
Pilatus will go anywhere
A four passenger plane with one door! That’s a no no.
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If the aircraft is paid in full, do you still have to have insurance?
I have a lance air and I was being a part of mile high club and went into a flat spin like maveric. But I recovered because I’m a bad nofo. Nah jk in my dreams.
$1,500,000. My guess that keeps people from buying it.
Lancair has shown the way in many ways and JMB is nicely aggressive however the evolution is only marginally faster than Lancair IV-P and costs 5 times as much and I'm assuming swallows at least double the fuel. I get why JMB might like it but to me a kit plane for 1.3million is a non starter and there are much better opportunities. As great as Lancairs have been, they were never as light as they could be, evolution is 1.2 ton and basing the plane on a 1million dollar engine is a fierce handicap. Never mind equivalent servicing costs. That's an uphill profit margin.
What JMB should do instead of make an equivalent fuselage as a one piece carbon fiber shell and sleek light wings, aiming for around 200kg instead of 1200kg and strap 2 small turbofan engines on it at the back. Engines they would have to develop because no one makes them. Because a PT6 is a single engine, it's rather complex and P&W are hopelessly lost to their status quo cost obtuseness. Tiny jets can be both simple, cheap and light but you have natural dual engine redundancy and quiet rear placement instead of the front noise maker turboprops often are.
I am not exaggerating when I say such jet engines could retail for 10k a piece profitably and weigh 15kg each with better fuel efficiency than the evolution and that's just a revolution. Pun intended.
We are talking about a twin jet for LSA price. That just destroys everything else.
I know things can be capital intensive but there is also such a thing as keeping it simple. A fuselage with no front engine section is nicely simple. With double curved surface CF can be strong enough in just a thin shell with no frames or stringers. One way to think about it is that it can be simpler than an LSA or Gogetair, it just happens to be capable of mach 0.7.
A double curved aerodynamic fuselage is naturally suited for pressurization.
As for the engines, think of a car turbo which has a compressor and turbine wheel, made from inconel just like jet engines. If that can reliably retail for 300$ then that's potential in the aviation world. If you look at the inside of a Williams FJ33 engine, it's not hopelessly complex. Scale that down to 15kg. And you may have noticed that turbofan jet airliners have much longer range than your piston props.
Lol. So many statements here are incorrect, ignorant and over simplified. Tell you what, if you think this is a great way to revolutionize turbine powered aircraft please build it and get back to us with your results. I have my doubts.