I absolutely LOVE the idea of the friends buying a house together. It's so cool. They'll always have someone to talk to, while living their busy life... They build their own little commune. Best of wishes to those three!!
This is my favourite real estate show, mainly due to the two very charming, relaxed, and intelligent hosts. Love their rapport together. And love their fashion, Kirstie's clothes in particular. The entire episode was enjoyable due to each and every prospective buyer being interesting and having no discernible annoying traits.
My first comment is that having once shared a London flat with three or four others in the 60’s, I cannot help but think that three owners could prove a bit disastrous. There always seems to be one who cleans and keeps things tidy and another who is a slob and one who takes advantage of everyone! And how do they decide on decorating style for the shared spaces? I do think a follow up show about how it all went, would be very interesting. Also plonking down a huge amount of money on a damp basement with mold on the walls, seems like an exercise in stupidity to me. I’m glad the young couple didn’t do it. Second comment. When I was engaged, mid sixties, my fiancé and I started looking for somewhere to buy in Pimlico, near Dolphin Square, a very nice area. We almost bought a small, one bedroom place, on the fifth floor of an excellent building. But we decided climbing five flights up loaded with groceries etc would be too much, so we didn’t buy in the end. By the way….the cost in 1965 was 5 thousand pounds! Yes FIVE thousand!regard to the young couple, I cannot fathom how anyone would plonk down hundreds of thousands of pounds to live in a damp basement with mold on the walls. My last comment on buying in the UK, is that I am constantly amazed at how so many sellers simply leave the place in a mess with no attempt to make it more attractive. The damp place had a drying rack hung with wet clothes for instance. Here in the US, the real estate guys insist that you almost completely remove anything of a personal nature and declutter and ‘ stage’ the property before showing it to prospective buyers. This is because some of the buyers cannot visualize the space with their belongings, if it is full of your stuff! This was never my husband and my problem when young. But times have changed. Having got all that off my chest, I have to say this is my favorite house hunting show of all of them, probably because the hosts have such good chemistry and good insights.
The only places that still look like a total disaster are the ones who have been rented out. The tenants are not going to be very cooperative and clean up and they are not going to let anyone touch their dirty laundry all over the floor, to clean up for pictures or viewing.
I just sold my house and I agree, it was slick and span and not a personal anything in sight. I staged to look alluring and had a contract within 2 weeks. A Brit living in Florida for 43 years😊
A good Realtor doesn't let "I don't know the area" be a stopping point. I like how the show encourages the buyers to go look around. and Kirstie and Phil work hard to make it not scary. Not so much this episode but so often we see people very stuck on one neighbourhood and I love how they're always gently pushed.
Yes, especially when you consider that so many have come from somewhere else, especially to London ... if you want to 'know the area' stay where you were born & raised ...
@@sonaterese799 I know they're presenters but I believe their presenting, their knowledge, their people skills. I also believe they've been in the business and know their onions. Whether they're hosts or not, I would trust the show to find me a place if I moved from Canada.
People go on about putting their own personal touch / stamp on the place ... you move in, the place now full of furniture you have brought (some perhaps inherited / given family pieces), some chosen together as a couple ... you hang up painting / prints you have bought, fill the bookshelves with books you have bought ... those actions mark the place as yours ...
I agree, so many people will say no to a place because they want to put their quote personal stamp on it unquote. I think it's kind of weird because yeah you put your own stuff in it And you can do small things that are completely personalized. It's cosmetic!
A fireplace is NOT a fireplace unless it functions as such. Otherwise, it is just a mantleplace of smoke and mirrors. Offer less to fix the problems, and take it. He is exactly right to ask for the opinion of someone who understands at a practical level the problems at hand. It has nothing to do with whether they are male or female....just not a real estate salesperson
Those three need to rent and live together for a couple of years to see what it's like. So many things can go wrong. One loses a job, one gets a partner, someone gets into financial trouble, arguments over bills, cleaning, having friends over that the other ones don't like. I could go on. A mortgage is a 25 year commitment and imagine the complications if someone wants out? This is a terrible idea.
They would have a 'deed of trust' set up & their chances of surviving are as good as a married couple buying a place with 50% of marriages ending in divorce these days.
Thank goodness the couple was bright enough to NOT buy the property with the damp and mold issue. No place as old as that property was, is likely to have an EASY and inexpensive way to FIX the water problem. IF it was easy and cheap, everyone else who has owned it would have already solved the problem. To even SHOW that property was just wrong! You never ever take the opinion of precisely ONE repair person about something as important as that.
@@cg9616 you could easily end up homeless if you've sold your place, although I suppose you'd end up canceling the sale of your house too. So stressful.
I'm Canadian too. In Canada, when an offer is accepted, both parties exchange contracts, closing the property off the market. There are only limited reasons for breaking the contract. In England, offers are made and accepted verbally. Up until the exchange of contracts, there is no penalty on either side for pulling out. After contracts are exchanged, gazumping is not allowed. Pulling out of the deal does, I believe, carry penalties.
@@michaeltutty1540 Yes, and in Canada, the purchaser must put down a deposit to secure the deal. If they pull out (once conditions are met), they lose the deposit. The vendor gets it.
Still waiting for the day when Kirstie, in spite being told by the client that they do not want to do any work, does not start the showing with her traditional "if you knock this wall down". It is so aggravating.
If you are in Highgate you will go all the time to Muswell hill, because of all the shops that Highgate has not got, the 3 friends will have to close the tube but is so noisy Archey road, I live there too.
When you spend your life working and living in one of the most expensive cities in the world, many end up not marrying, and not moving out to Boonies..... Its cheap to live in the country, and either one of them would be able to live on their own in a tiny village, but they want to stay in the capital
I know people who've rented out their spare bedrooms, the income from which would fully cover their mortgages. Allowing them over the course of 10yrs to save up deposits and accumulate a total of 3 BTL London properties. I, like you didn't want room mates and still only have the 1 property.
I love the Highgate flat that the 3 some got. I wouldn't even change out the kitchen, I like the vintage style. I'd just remove or replace the carpets, paint the walls and move right in.
So funny how Haggerston was too rough for the friend group. Oh, how times have changed. Also Muswell Hill/Ally Pally is arguably more desirable than Highgate.
For the 3 friends, i prefer the 2nd flat they saw, the one with the outdoor space overlooking the canal. It was 20k below budget, had that split level that made ir feel more like a house than flat, had outdoor space and a huge kitchen. The only downside was the location for them. I do not like thw idea of living in a basement flat. I might rent one if it is within or below budget & was updated, definitely not an old and damp one. For the young couple, i would have picked that turnkey last house they saw and i am happy they had a rethink
Personally, I think it is insanely risky to buy a property with two other people. There is unending potential for conflict, and if one, or even two of them get a job in another city, or find a girlfriend/boyfriend and want to move out, what then? How easy would it be to find a buyer for one third of a flat shared with two strangers? Also, threesomes like this, even completely platonic, are inhetently unstable. Two of the people will easily gang up against the third. I live in a three-flat condo building. Ask me how I know. I would be curious to know how this turned out. I would bet good money that this arrangement ended in acrimony within two years.
@@deb7518 They haven't done an update on these three, but there have been updates on other groups of friends who bought houses together. Pretty much, it was all the same story. They got along great, and when it was time for one of them to move on, they either sold the property or one of them bought the other one out.
Interesting episode for me as I lived in Highgate, Muswell Hill and Harringay. Why didn't they look at Crouch End? And they want to live in Highgate and he takes them to Holloway and Haggerston?????
Hi Ontario here too but born Brit with BFF there. The "pre-approval" is not like ours. It's a kind of round number of what the buyers might get approved for. Then it's not locked in, like prices and deals too, and can be adjusted until legal documents are signed. It floors me that in this day and she, seeing systems here and in the US, they stay with their archaic way of doing the bigger expense of people's life. When we heard about "the chain" situation, allowing deals to fall through on multiple houses because someone's private deal didn't go through. Everyone after that on the chain will have their deal fall apart. We don't play that. Your funding etc is long sorted before closing day and any nonsense would get someone a huge lawsuit. They also don't want home inspections. When properties are very old, I think you need that even more. One thing I think applies still: 100% mortgage. No down payment or deposit. Crazy? But helps 1st timers trying to buy. I hope this helps a little bit with your question. I'm grateful for my life here, you?
I wonder why there has not been a follow up on the two sets of buys. e.g. Did the threesome really buy the property in the end? I sense that something went wrong and that's why there is no follow-up. It would be interesting to know how it panned out. Likewise the other couple...
I think that the guy who requires his own bathroom should be the one willing to take the smallest bedroom. Her desire for a good location benefits everyone. His desire for his own bathroom is just selfish.
You sound peeved! in America and other countries it's the law ! you HAVE to wear your seatbelt. why are you so stressed about that? It's for safety, studies have shown.
She got the location she wanted for the smaller room now she's back tracking her words , that guy who isn't so vocal should get to choose his room first , as for the most vocal lad you should have had to put more money down for the ensuite ,,,,, this 3 some is a daster waiting to happen and it all boils down to greed
But the non-vocal guy isn't greedy....and you want him to be more vocal, which means you think he should be greedy but you're complaining that all three are greedy!..I don't understand the nonsense you're spewing, lol.
…..”oh well the problem with that is”, ya not what ya want to hear from your realtor, and all she said was they wanted to put their own mark on it…..I’d get a new realtor sorry Christie
Once again, that horrible bright yellow wall color!! Hopefully, it being many years ago (today is 2023) Brits are not using such awful colors when trying to sell their homes...neutral colors, please!
That's funny because I always see comments in house flip videos saying the opposite. Get rid of the neutrals and add color. That they're sick of white and gray and beige and tan.
I absolutely LOVE the idea of the friends buying a house together. It's so cool. They'll always have someone to talk to, while living their busy life... They build their own little commune.
Best of wishes to those three!!
No one else can do this programme only kirsty and phil, i just love them both great banter between them too , keep up the good work . 😊😊
This is my favourite real estate show, mainly due to the two very charming, relaxed, and intelligent hosts. Love their rapport together. And love their fashion, Kirstie's clothes in particular. The entire episode was enjoyable due to each and every prospective buyer being interesting and having no discernible annoying traits.
I love the psychological aspect of the show- seeing how they encourage the selfish ones to compromise.
My first comment is that having once shared a London flat with three or four others in the 60’s, I cannot help but think that three owners could prove a bit disastrous. There always seems to be one who cleans and keeps things tidy and another who is a slob and one who takes advantage of everyone! And how do they decide on decorating style for the shared spaces? I do think a follow up show about how it all went, would be very interesting. Also plonking down a huge amount of money on a damp basement with mold on the walls, seems like an exercise in stupidity to me. I’m glad the young couple didn’t do it.
Second comment. When I was engaged, mid sixties, my fiancé and I started looking for somewhere to buy in Pimlico, near Dolphin Square, a very nice area. We almost bought a small, one bedroom place, on the fifth floor of an excellent building. But we decided climbing five flights up loaded with groceries etc would be too much, so we didn’t buy in the end. By the way….the cost in 1965 was 5 thousand pounds! Yes FIVE thousand!regard to the young couple, I cannot fathom how anyone would plonk down hundreds of thousands of pounds to live in a damp basement with mold on the walls.
My last comment on buying in the UK, is that I am constantly amazed at how so many sellers simply leave the place in a mess with no attempt to make it more attractive. The damp place had a drying rack hung with wet clothes for instance. Here in the US, the real estate guys insist that you almost completely remove anything of a personal nature and declutter and ‘ stage’ the property before showing it to prospective buyers. This is because some of the buyers cannot visualize the space with their belongings, if it is full of your stuff! This was never my husband and my problem when young. But times have changed.
Having got all that off my chest, I have to say this is my favorite house hunting show of all of them, probably because the hosts have such good chemistry and good insights.
The only places that still look like a total disaster are the ones who have been rented out. The tenants are not going to be very cooperative and clean up and they are not going to let anyone touch their dirty laundry all over the floor, to clean up for pictures or viewing.
I just sold my house and I agree, it was slick and span and not a personal anything in sight. I staged to look alluring and had a contract within 2 weeks. A Brit living in Florida for 43 years😊
£ 5.000 for property in London sounds like pocket money today
Good investment for the three friends. Got nostalgic a bit seeing a street I used to walk on my way to work
The large flat the trio bought is just like so many large Parisian apartments I have seen in my life!
Hahah there are no large Parisian apartments…
@@sjefhendrickx2257 Of course there are..... the ones that the upper class inherit from their familes...
I would so love to see an update on the three friends. Do they still live there? Are they still friends?! 🤞🏼
There is no update on either the friends or the couple.
Premo flat those 3 friends found, once it's done up it gona be worth loads more too.
Peter Sellers lived in the house next door, it has a blue plaque, surprised they didn't show it.
3 buyers is a train wreck waiting to happen. At least they can split renovation costs 3 ways. I would start with the shared bathroom.
A good Realtor doesn't let "I don't know the area" be a stopping point. I like how the show encourages the buyers to go look around. and Kirstie and Phil work hard to make it not scary. Not so much this episode but so often we see people very stuck on one neighbourhood and I love how they're always gently pushed.
Yes, especially when you consider that so many have come from somewhere else, especially to London ... if you want to 'know the area' stay where you were born & raised ...
Just a reminder:- Phil and Kirstie are NOT Realtors, they are show hosts
@@sonaterese799 I know they're presenters but I believe their presenting, their knowledge, their people skills. I also believe they've been in the business and know their onions. Whether they're hosts or not, I would trust the show to find me a place if I moved from Canada.
I am from the US, and I love your show! You two make the show what it is! Thank you.
People go on about putting their own personal touch / stamp on the place ... you move in, the place now full of furniture you have brought (some perhaps inherited / given family pieces), some chosen together as a couple ... you hang up painting / prints you have bought, fill the bookshelves with books you have bought ... those actions mark the place as yours ...
I agree, so many people will say no to a place because they want to put their quote personal stamp on it unquote. I think it's kind of weird because yeah you put your own stuff in it And you can do small things that are completely personalized. It's cosmetic!
Kirsty is hilarious! She's great 😂
I really enjoyed the challenges your clients try to put you through, but you both handled it well.
A fireplace is NOT a fireplace unless it functions as such. Otherwise, it is just a mantleplace of smoke and mirrors. Offer less to fix the problems, and take it. He is exactly right to ask for the opinion of someone who understands at a practical level the problems at hand. It has nothing to do with whether they are male or female....just not a real estate salesperson
I'm so happy for you both. With the renovations.
Oh, I'd love the Holloway flat right now--train and all
Would have been great in the fifties with all the steam engines!
Great episode. I enjoyed the inclusion of a non-traditional family.
Its not a family at all
Those three need to rent and live together for a couple of years to see what it's like. So many things can go wrong. One loses a job, one gets a partner, someone gets into financial trouble, arguments over bills, cleaning, having friends over that the other ones don't like. I could go on. A mortgage is a 25 year commitment and imagine the complications if someone wants out? This is a terrible idea.
They would have a 'deed of trust' set up & their chances of surviving are as good as a married couple buying a place with 50% of marriages ending in divorce these days.
They have a contingency contract, which is more than ordinary marriages do!
I love the London ones. A man can dream
This one is really fun!
I've been looking for this episode for so long! Thank you! I'd love to know what Cathy's son thought of this new arrangement for his mum.
Probably doesn’t approve 😂😂
@@fayesouthall6604How on earth could you know that ?
Why ? You don’t need your grown up kids approval and it hardly strikes me she will have brought him up with any issues about anything
2011. I'd love a revisit.
No revisit
I'd love to see a revisit on both homes. 2011 thirteen years ago. A lifetime, especially through the lockdown.
Probably not going to happen. That’s too long of a gap to do an update, especially the trio. They’re probably in different places now.
very enjoyable :) thank you!
Thank goodness the couple was bright enough to NOT buy the property with the damp and mold issue. No place as old as that property was, is likely to have an EASY and inexpensive way to FIX the water problem. IF it was easy and cheap, everyone else who has owned it would have already solved the problem. To even SHOW that property was just wrong! You never ever take the opinion of precisely ONE repair person about something as important as that.
The house in Haggerston strikes me as Indonesian, they have Wayang Golek! Quite an adventurer!
I would like to know how much this flat is worth in 2023.
Anything between £850k and £1.5m
As a Canadian, I find it so hard to understand the UK real estate market. At the very last minute, you can lose out based on so many factors.
Totally frustrating to think you’ve bought only to be guzzumped or think you’ve sold for the person to pull out on the day of completion
@@cg9616 you could easily end up homeless if you've sold your place, although I suppose you'd end up canceling the sale of your house too. So stressful.
I'm Canadian too. In Canada, when an offer is accepted, both parties exchange contracts, closing the property off the market. There are only limited reasons for breaking the contract. In England, offers are made and accepted verbally. Up until the exchange of contracts, there is no penalty on either side for pulling out. After contracts are exchanged, gazumping is not allowed. Pulling out of the deal does, I believe, carry penalties.
@@michaeltutty1540 Yes, and in Canada, the purchaser must put down a deposit to secure the deal. If they pull out (once conditions are met), they lose the deposit. The vendor gets it.
Still waiting for the day when Kirstie, in spite being told by the client that they do not want to do any work, does not start the showing with her traditional "if you knock this wall down". It is so aggravating.
If you are in Highgate you will go all the time to Muswell hill, because of all the shops that Highgate has not got, the 3 friends will have to close the tube but is so noisy Archey road, I live there too.
This episode featured some of the tiniest bedrooms I've ever seen.
London sizes, London prices
I can't imagine being a fully grown adult living with roommates...ugh its my nightmare! It kinda fascinates me that people would willingly do it.
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When you spend your life working and living in one of the most expensive cities in the world, many end up not marrying, and not moving out to Boonies..... Its cheap to live in the country, and either one of them would be able to live on their own in a tiny village, but they want to stay in the capital
@@frenchartantiquesparis424 yeah..to each his own...but man I couldn't do it.
I know people who've rented out their spare bedrooms, the income from which would fully cover their mortgages. Allowing them over the course of 10yrs to save up deposits and accumulate a total of 3 BTL London properties. I, like you didn't want room mates and still only have the 1 property.
I love the Highgate flat that the 3 some got. I wouldn't even change out the kitchen, I like the vintage style. I'd just remove or replace the carpets, paint the walls and move right in.
So funny how Haggerston was too rough for the friend group. Oh, how times have changed. Also Muswell Hill/Ally Pally is arguably more desirable than Highgate.
For the 3 friends, i prefer the 2nd flat they saw, the one with the outdoor space overlooking the canal. It was 20k below budget, had that split level that made ir feel more like a house than flat, had outdoor space and a huge kitchen. The only downside was the location for them.
I do not like thw idea of living in a basement flat. I might rent one if it is within or below budget & was updated, definitely not an old and damp one. For the young couple, i would have picked that turnkey last house they saw and i am happy they had a rethink
The date is in the end credits....an empty place has no pazazz, but its up to the buyer to paint, decorate and add the pazazz!! 🤭👻
That Highgate flat is worth anywhere between £850k to £1.5m in 2024
I will pay $10.
Personally, I think it is insanely risky to buy a property with two other people. There is unending potential for conflict, and if one, or even two of them get a job in another city, or find a girlfriend/boyfriend and want to move out, what then? How easy would it be to find a buyer for one third of a flat shared with two strangers? Also, threesomes like this, even completely platonic, are inhetently unstable. Two of the people will easily gang up against the third. I live in a three-flat condo building. Ask me how I know.
I would be curious to know how this turned out. I would bet good money that this arrangement ended in acrimony within two years.
Might be an interesting group to do a revisit on, to see if different life changes were a problem and, if so, how it was resolved.
@@deb7518 They haven't done an update on these three, but there have been updates on other groups of friends who bought houses together. Pretty much, it was all the same story. They got along great, and when it was time for one of them to move on, they either sold the property or one of them bought the other one out.
They have a contingency contract, which is more than ordinary marriages have. If one leaves, they sell and split the money. No acrimony necessary
but each one's money is protected by a contract and they can always sell, their part or the whole house.
Funnily enough they have never revisited the threesome... wonder why?? 🤔
Interesting episode for me as I lived in Highgate, Muswell Hill and Harringay. Why didn't they look at Crouch End? And they want to live in Highgate and he takes them to Holloway and Haggerston?????
Hello from Ontario, Canada. Question please: In the UK How/Why do pre-approved mortgages get reduced????
Hi Ontario here too but born Brit with BFF there. The "pre-approval" is not like ours. It's a kind of round number of what the buyers might get approved for. Then it's not locked in, like prices and deals too, and can be adjusted until legal documents are signed. It floors me that in this day and she, seeing systems here and in the US, they stay with their archaic way of doing the bigger expense of people's life. When we heard about "the chain" situation, allowing deals to fall through on multiple houses because someone's private deal didn't go through. Everyone after that on the chain will have their deal fall apart. We don't play that. Your funding etc is long sorted before closing day and any nonsense would get someone a huge lawsuit. They also don't want home inspections. When properties are very old, I think you need that even more. One thing I think applies still: 100% mortgage. No down payment or deposit. Crazy? But helps 1st timers trying to buy. I hope this helps a little bit with your question. I'm grateful for my life here, you?
@@julesmisty Thank you so much for all this detail. It is almost like people are set up to fail? You are correct, CRAZY!!
I could never live with no outside space.....
some have to live in such places but manage to carry on ... one can always saunter off to a nearly park ...
Buy a house 15 times you salary?!?!!!?? HeII no! I'd move first.
Being house poor really, really sucks.
Imagine what it's like now for first time buyers in 2023. I think the 30 something's will be forever renters now.
What is with the music?! Too loud!!
Damp … no no no RUN
It’s actually not that difficult to sort it out
It was mostly due to condensation on windows. Not enough airing out.
Im concerned about 3 buying? How do they split it when life changes things? Situations? Its like student flat life?
I can't see these three living in harmony.
They are all bar managers and seem to get along. The fact that they agreed on a place suggests they are normal, considerate adults.
Love Daniel
12 months is nothing.
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22k for
that cosmetic work is crazy!
That was including a new kitchen and 2 new bathrooms 22k seems quite responsible. A cheep budget kitchen is 8k-15k 2 budget bathrooms 4k-5k each
" I'm going to have to up my cool quota"😂
I agree re no dates or segment number
Kathy looks like Katey Sagal. Related perhaps??
Yeah I thought about that as well.
Oh no, its Carole Pope the singer from Rough Trade in the 1980s; freakishly so! LOL
@@davidmcquaid2557 You're right! Carol Pope all the way!
I keep seeing an orange VW van but pretty sure there must be a candy pink Cadillac somewhere around......
@@davidmcquaid2557That was my thought too - Carole Pope!
No central heating? No thanks.
I wonder why there has not been a follow up on the two sets of buys. e.g. Did the threesome really buy the property in the end? I sense that something went wrong and that's why there is no follow-up. It would be interesting to know how it panned out. Likewise the other couple...
Is Kirstein having a baby?
She has two already. She's just gotten fatter as the years wear on.....!
I think that the guy who requires his own bathroom should be the one willing to take the smallest bedroom. Her desire for a good location benefits everyone. His desire for his own bathroom is just selfish.
3 grown adults in one small flat that’s a recipe for disaster
It helps that the two guys were already roommates though.
Will Kathy get fined for not wearing her seatbelt ala Rishi Sunak? 😮
In 2012, when this was filmed?
You sound peeved! in America and other countries it's the law ! you HAVE to wear your seatbelt. why are you so stressed about that? It's for safety, studies have shown.
She got the location she wanted for the smaller room now she's back tracking her words , that guy who isn't so vocal should get to choose his room first , as for the most vocal lad you should have had to put more money down for the ensuite ,,,,, this 3 some is a daster waiting to happen and it all boils down to greed
But the non-vocal guy isn't greedy....and you want him to be more vocal, which means you think he should be greedy but you're complaining that all three are greedy!..I don't understand the nonsense you're spewing, lol.
There will be a contingency contract.
This is a Very Old program £360k for a 2 bed lol
…..”oh well the problem with that is”, ya not what ya want to hear from your realtor, and all she said was they wanted to put their own mark on it…..I’d get a new realtor sorry Christie
Kirstie's not a realtor, but a property locator on a tv show...
Before the childish comments come flooding in, can I just say there’s nothing wrong with 3 guys living together….
The 'three friends'' constant laughing got on my nerves.
London 🙄🤢
Once again, that horrible bright yellow wall color!! Hopefully, it being many years ago (today is 2023) Brits are not using such awful colors when trying to sell their homes...neutral colors, please!
That's funny because I always see comments in house flip videos saying the opposite. Get rid of the neutrals and add color. That they're sick of white and gray and beige and tan.
Absolutely. Neutral is boring. But a non-poisonous shade of yellow would be much nicer, for sure.
Is Kristie pregnant or did she put on a few pounds?
She's always been a bit chubby. But you can never tell with her. She is masterfully hiding all of it.
Does it matter?
Kirstie is fabulously beautiful 😍
@@ericshang7744 he or she asked the question, so it does to them!
She's just gotten fatter. We all get all of the little middle-age spread it happens to many.