@@TrebleTS20Yeah, you never admit fault immediately. This will be quietly settled out of court. They clearly reported the car stolen. In depositions, they’ll have to admit it was given as a loaner car and a police report was filed as stolen-open and shut case.
I agree. That's the crazy part right there. The dealership basically doesn't want to be man/woman enough to own up to the big mistake they did. I hope he wins this case against Kia.
The dealership lost the loaner agreement within minutes of it being filled out? The employee couldn't say, "oh yeah, that car was loaned out, but I've misplaced the contract." Then called the police as if you never loaned the car out. Called the wife, not the husband who was in said car to admit the mistake. Not only sue, but someone needs to lose their job for causing all of that chaos.
Agreed. This is one of the idiotic things that I have ever seen in my life. Why would a employee misplaced something that they made a deal to the loaner.
the dealership even called the wife and told her they just reported the car stolen... if they had indeed Lost the agreement then how did they know the phone number?
They called her to tell her about the mistake... obviously they found the agreement and immediately called her. Too bad they they didn't bother to find it BEFORE calling the police.
Lose the paperwork so they can't even be bothered to check their own security footage if someone took the car off their lot suspiciously, just immediately call police and say it was stolen by an armed person?
It's Kia, not Mercedes. There's no way they would have video cameras. I work at a Nissan dealership, I haven't seen video cameras at any non-luxury car dealerships. Brand new Cadillac dealership opened close by me, no video cameras either. This is in DFW Texas.
@@DOHC2Lthat’s crazy because every rundown gas station has security cameras. Why would only luxury dealerships have them? Not like they’re a big expense.
The government version is it was placed on the wrong shelf. Happened to me with some paperwork I filed at the courthouse. If I hadn’t kept calling because it was taking so long they’d have never found it.
Dealerships don't even do paperwork anymore. Everything is done electronically and your copy is given to you on a credit card thumb drive or texted/emailed directly to you. Dealerships is just lying.
So they don’t have CCTV camera to see that the man visit the office , sign a document and was HANDED the key or vehicle??? Wtf is wrong with these people?!?!
Exactly man, they didn't even TRY to see where the car went. They just couldn't see it, so they automatically assumed stollen without even knowing how the car was moved. Hell, they apparently couldn't even ask their own employee's if they knew where the car went. Imagine living a life where every time you misplaced something and instead of looking for it you called the cops because someone must have stolen it.
My son used to work for a car dealership and said the front office loses keys and then runs to the detail team accusing them of having the keys! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
He's right! They wouldnt ask...they would accuse! 2 cars were stolen off the BMW lot because the dealers left the keys out on their desks after closing they blamed the technicians and detailers and required us to get finger printed to prove it was an inside job. Refusal of providing finger prints was termination. I live in Florida
@@ninam.1560 Tell him to document all of those interactions! Keep his phone at his side while recording so he at least picks up the audio. Start building his case against the people making accusations
I remember that one time me and my brother went to look at cars. My brother saw one that he really liked and the dealer guy said to keep looking at it that he was going to go look for the keys to look at the inside. While looking we saw that the keys were already in the ignition and my brother tried opening the car door and it was unlocked. The guy took about 40 minutes to come back to his surprised he found us inside the car waiting for him. He was so confused and concerned on how we got in the car since he couldn't find the keys until we told him.
The dealership has no choice but to settle this. Hit their pockets good so this does not happen again. Make sure it's enough to pay off a house, 2 brand new cars and college tuition for your kids, and lawyer fees. At that point y'all can call it even.
It’s definitely black privilege, though. If this happened to a white guy, law firms wouldn’t be so eager to take his case. The law firms know the black guy will win purely on that
How exactly did the police think he was armed and dangerous unless the idiots who reported it stolen also reported being robbed for the vehicle at gunpoint
@@bigd3046 Not about the amount. It's about making the dealership to actually put proper processes and practices to prevent it from happening in the future again. Not just this dealership, but all dealerships.
I am curious if they didn’t update the information in the computer system; that the car was loaned to someone and who. I am never going to borrow a car from any dealership. If I do, I’m gonna ask them to email that document to me that shows I borrowed the car from here. I got more trust issues after watching this than I did in the past.
Lost the paperwork for the car loan but were able to find the contact information to call the wife…They had the couples original car, they had their number. Why did this escalate?! WTF did they say in the police report to make the cops believe they were dealing with threat requiring five officers!? This does not add up.
Stealing cars from a dealer ship would most likely mean they were prepared for any consequences so there is reasonable suspicion for a armed person during a traffic stop as he couldn’t be identified by the loaned vehicle due to no info so they would be stopping an unidentified driver
@angelc286 Excellent, well stated! Part of the questions the victim's attorney should be using at trial against Kiv liars at the dealership who intentionally caused this to happen!
@@oinkytheink1228you didn’t even try to respond to the points laid out. They had all the family’s information. They could have given them a call. They already called the wife.
What likely happened: 1. The couple placed their car in a mechanic's care, as it's said that they were getting repairs on it. 2. The couple licensed the dealership's car as a loaner while it was being repaired. 3. Through negligence of the employees, the loan agreement was lost behind a filing cabinet. 4. The Kia dealership, noticing a car missing and not having an agreement, assumed the car had been stolen and reported it as such to the police. 5. The loan agreement was found in AFTER the report, and the dealership called the wife through that information. Step #4, of course, is the source of the lawsuit: Surely someone at the dealership would remember a car being stolen, attempt to locate the original papers, or look through security footage to see if the car had been taken legally or not. I can't say why the dealership assumed the suspect was armed and dangerous other than the general assumption of "You don't commit grand theft auto without a gun", and of course, that assumption is a key point in the lawsuit. This is all just MY conjecture, of course.
They lost the loanership agreement? Don't they have it in their computer or at least a filing cabinet or at least save multiple copies?!?! Absolutely ridiculous
Some places have real scummy staff who will do what ever they can to screw someone over, just to get money out of them. Had a friend of mine who rented a car from a car rental, and 3 days later got pulled over as the company had reported the car stolen, when he still had more than a week to return it. He sued and won the case, the rental company had apparently had a small record of claiming some cars as stolen. said location was shut down and all the staff arrested.
What’s really ridiculous was how much power the police was packing. I mean… assault rifles over a car theft? And the way they still aimed at him when he didn’t even try to escape in the car (I imagine that last one was part of a standard procedure to ensure the safety of the officers, but still.)
This is what I don't get. Someone that worked at the dealership clearly gave him the keys. Why not, you know, ask your employees if anyone knows what happened to the car before reporting it stolen?
A lot of things aren't black and white but this one sure sounds like it. Modest looking black dude. Two things come to my racist sale man who was supposed to help him or sale person didn't like something the customer did or said and got back at him for it .
I think the dealer wanted the car, couldn't find it on the lot so they checked to see if it were loaned out and when then couldn't find the papers they assumed it was stolen. But come on this was in 2021, do you mean to tell me there is no computer record of the car being loaned out? No...everything is on the computer these days, the "paper" is just a print out to be filed away or given to the customer. That begs the question, did the customer actually have the loaner agreement in the car?
This is bad policing. There was NO reason to think he, the individual specific drive, was "armed and dangerous". The fact that cops still get away with this is pathetic.
@@debbiec6216 The lawsuit can't target the individual of the company. It has to be the company. The only thing the company can do is fire the incompetent.
@@sinatraforeignSTFU. Fake news. The dealership never said he was armed. Standard practice is to always treat the occupants of a stolen vehicle as armed and dangerous.
@@hardwired4548He got lucky that the cops had their cameras on, the only way to keep those psychopaths in line is constant surveillance and a threat that they could lose their job and power, without cameras they would assult or kill whomever they wanted and fill out paperwork to get away with it
@@hardwired4548clearly unaware of what counts as danger. And what would typically dealing with. It can be as crazy as rolling a 20-sided dice. With the odd less in ur favor. An do as ur told an still roll a fail.
@@hardwired4548 That's what you think, they were pointing rifles at him, what if the rifle misfires? What if he turn around a little too quick and they think he as holding a gun instead of his phone?
First off, how do you confuse loaning a car to a customer and thinking it was stolen? Second, where and how does "armed and dangerous" come into play in all of this? Third, the contract "fell behind the filing cabinet"? And lastly, why did the dealship call his wife and not the police to say it was all a big mixup? Something is definitely suspicious about that dealership.
@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf Not necessarily. I worked in an office for 27 years, and at one point while we were moving file cabinets around, we actually DID find a document that had been lost for quite some time, it can happen.
ANY stolen vehicle report is automatically treated as though the person MAY be armed and dangerous. They only knew that they had a report of a stolen vehicle, and NOT that the report was false, so they made the CORRECT stop for the report that they had. Mr. Rodgers did exactly what they said to do, which is why he ended up being just fine in the end. The police did NOTHING wrong given the report that they were given.
@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf More likely got paper-clipped to another document on a cluttered desk top, or was inadvertently thrown away with other unneeded paperwork that it was stuck to. Happened to me at the DMV, and caused me a lot of grief and money in the end.
I’m a little confused, if it was reported stolen only how does that equal to armed and dangerous? Did the dealership report that the man had a weapon or used violence? Do police always assume someone is armed and dangerous when a car is stolen?
I’m sorry. Dealership can deny all they want but they can’t argue with the video. Customer needs to win lawsuit and dealership needs to be charged with filing a false police report. Dealership also needs to lose their license.
This would be traumatic as all get out 😡. Who ever reported this dealership car as stolen should be fired (if they were an employee) and charged with something I don’t know. Very unsettling 😥
@@CharlotteThomas74a lot of businesses had issues with computer hackers breaking in and stealing money from bank accounts etc. So they went back to using pen and paper lol.
@@tomtom1541 Oh, okay! Makes perfect sense!! Since things can easily be shuffled, pushed, and slid around, if the file cabinets and desks aren't pushed against the wall and there's an opening, there's always that possibility that some paperwork may have fallen behind at some point!! Guess their cleaners weren't such good cleaners and don't clean behind things🤦🏽♀️🤣🤣
People need to realize: that pot smoking, hungover employee who didn't type half the things you just said? They're the ones that stand between you and a horrible day. Once you grasp this, it becomes a MIRACLE that this doesn't happen every single day!
@javier7717 literally, why would a company care about skin color? It was a mistake(even though I don't know why the dealership would say he is armed and dangerous, as no injuries happened). The description was awfully vague, so it could be anyone
@@SoloPilot6 Why would they be told that he was armed and dangerous? If the reason for the call was that Kia "lost" the paperwork, they shouldn't have any clue about the status of him being armed or not. So Kia essentially lied to the cops to make sure their precious car would get more police attention?
@danrise44 no, it's because it's a car that's been reported stolen. More times than not, that's going to involve a weapon or tool that can be used as a weapon
@@idkanymore1298 I sense that the person might have trouble in their personal life thar they can vent under the cover of anonymity. I think they deserve a bit of grace.
@@jojojayjay9617 Yes, the South Korean manufacturer KIA is directly responsible for the American employee of a KIA _franchise_ who "lost the agreement". 🤔
Unfortunately police departments and our courts in all states and the federal level have deemed police lives over civilian lives. Anything reported stolen, especially cars, have policies to engage with maximum hostility, guns drawn, dogs could be out, etc.
@@RasAlXanderAnything reported stolen results in felony stops and maximum hostility? Name a single department and the policy code as to where that’s permitted.
The Dealership is in the wrong for reporting it stolen but dont bring race into it why do people say oh its because hes black that has nothing to do with you some people like to cry wolf in situations like this
Similar thing happened to my father on a test drive in 2008 a dealer let my father take a car he was thinking about purchasing home to show it to my mother (15 drive) so he drove it home my mother liked it he called the dealer and told them, on his way back someone called to say the car was stolen my father was pulled over and was handcuffed and detained after a few minutes it was cleared up by the dealer they apologized my father decided not to get the car from them!
What?? Was the Service Department asleep? You call out the SWAT team when a simple "Hey, Bob, did you loan this SUV out to Jamie?" would have sufficed?
As much as I hate how rough cops can get and escalate the situation, this is one where I feel they followed procedure based on tip they got It definitely falls more on the dealership than anybody else.
If the car was taken at gunpoint, I can see the police saying he's considered armed and dangerous. But it wasn't, so why the over the top police response?
It was a car that was reported stolen; this is the normal procedure for a felony stop. There was a very similar case in Oceanside, CA, very close to where this happened, where a family on vacation were subjected to a felony stop because Hertz falsely reported the car stolen. There's a video of that case on TMJ4 News channel on RUclips.
Hate crime. Cause they won't name the person who accidently said they misplaced the car. Without taking into consideration that the person may be racist and did this intentionally.
They'll win. Lawsuits taken forever to be processed for some reason. That guy that hit his head in a cruise ship received a million dollar payout eventually so it's worth the wait.
@@silverjeyjey4054Cases like this get deliberately strung out, hoping the plaintiff can't afford to keep paying fees and attorneys, and will just give up or settle.
@@_UsernameUnavailable_ On cases like this the attorney takes 33% of the settlement, if they win. No upfront money required.... At least that is the way all of them work that i know of, plus the one i was involved in.
If you're the dealership... and one of your loaner cars just happens to go missing... wouldn't you think to contact the customer who last had it? Maybe there's some sort of mix up?
@@quasar3210 They should online/digital records and signatures of some kind, along with CCTV footage. There's a lot of ways they could have handled it better but calling the police to report the vehicle stolen by an "armed and dangerous individual" seems like the largest overreaction over uncertainty.
@@quasar3210 How'd they know his wife's number then, we're assuming they called the police then found the agreement and didnt bother calling off the police but called his wife instead?
I’m glad everything turned out well for the driver of that vehicle and the officers did their job according to the law because they thought the car was stolen because that’s what the dealership told them. this man has every right to sue the dealership for putting him in that situation.
I'm curious on the officers actions on how they assumed he was armed and dangerous, was there a report that violence was used during the alleged car theft? How do you lose an agreement for a loaner car? The dealership and the person who "lost" the agreement should be held liable for this
So you think any person who does anything wrong at any business should be held legally liable? So I assume you have never once made a mistake that innany way caused anyone even the smallest amount of harm?
It's to make sure he doesn't had any weapon or dangerous device such as an explosive on him. Explosive could be a bomb, e-cigarette, cellphone, or anything with a lithium-ion battery on it.
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How can the dealership deny the allegation when they're the one that reported it stolen?
Mind blowing.
It's utterly pathetic.
My exact same thought
Basic defense
@@TrebleTS20Yeah, you never admit fault immediately. This will be quietly settled out of court. They clearly reported the car stolen. In depositions, they’ll have to admit it was given as a loaner car and a police report was filed as stolen-open and shut case.
It was not a “mistake”. It was negligence. How do you loan out a car, forget the paperwork, and then call it in as stolen?
“We don’t know how we lost the paperwork! It was right here and BAM!”
Y’all think one person works at a dealership or something? Incredibly stupid but not a jailable offense lmao.
@@undefined69695 doesn't change the fact that it was negligence. They could have gotten that man killed
Hmm what did we do with the paper work? Must be stolen yeah that’s it
@@EmmureMARIO64 One would think with the age of technology, all that information would've been in their computer database too.
We reported the car stolen, and we also deny we reported it stolen. What jokers
That is the USA for ya.
No accountability nor responsible for the report.
I agree. That's the crazy part right there. The dealership basically doesn't want to be man/woman enough to own up to the big mistake they did. I hope he wins this case against Kia.
🗣️🤯
This should never have happened, I hope he wins the lawsuit.
Me too 👍🏻
Yeah I don't see why he wouldn't it seems like a pretty open and shut case
@@SuperSlimshady1 exactly 👍🏻
They probably head straight to settlement
I hope he wins the lawsuit as well.
The dealership lost the loaner agreement within minutes of it being filled out? The employee couldn't say, "oh yeah, that car was loaned out, but I've misplaced the contract." Then called the police as if you never loaned the car out. Called the wife, not the husband who was in said car to admit the mistake. Not only sue, but someone needs to lose their job for causing all of that chaos.
Agreed. This is one of the idiotic things that I have ever seen in my life. Why would a employee misplaced something that they made a deal to the loaner.
Because in America, calling the police is always the answer. Here in the UK, more questions would have been asked before dispatching.
The employee should be going to prison, the entire dealership needs investigated, this happens more often than not, and it’s done on purpose.
These sales flow through like in a McDonald’s. the contract was never entered in a computer.
No mixup, someone at the dealership should go to jail!
the dealership even called the wife and told her they just reported the car stolen... if they had indeed Lost the agreement then how did they know the phone number?
They called her to tell her about the mistake... obviously they found the agreement and immediately called her. Too bad they they didn't bother to find it BEFORE calling the police.
🤔🤫
Because they had their car in for repairs. The police probably let them know it was recovered and they realized what had happened. Not rocket science.
👀 Suspicious, right?
It was most likely after they found the agreement. Because they told her about the mix up.
Lose the paperwork so they can't even be bothered to check their own security footage if someone took the car off their lot suspiciously, just immediately call police and say it was stolen by an armed person?
They said in the report to police "A black guy was seen roaming in the premises and he might have took the car" which they gave it to him
I work at a dealer everyone up front is restarted
It's Kia, not Mercedes. There's no way they would have video cameras. I work at a Nissan dealership, I haven't seen video cameras at any non-luxury car dealerships. Brand new Cadillac dealership opened close by me, no video cameras either. This is in DFW Texas.
@@DOHC2Lthat’s crazy because every rundown gas station has security cameras. Why would only luxury dealerships have them? Not like they’re a big expense.
@@SpongeBob_circle_pantsIf that’s true, just wow. What a lousy establishment
"Fallen behind a cabinet" is the business version of "my dog ate my homework"
The government version is it was placed on the wrong shelf. Happened to me with some paperwork I filed at the courthouse. If I hadn’t kept calling because it was taking so long they’d have never found it.
I mean do people even have filing cabinets any more?
Dealerships don't even do paperwork anymore. Everything is done electronically and your copy is given to you on a credit card thumb drive or texted/emailed directly to you. Dealerships is just lying.
@@cassandradistin9699 *Younger Gen: What's a filing cabinets?*
@@cassandradistin9699yes lmfao
There is a huge difference between saying that a car was stolen versus armed and dangerous!
"Considered" armed and dangerous. By the cops...because he's black. So they can make a big deal out of it.
With stolen cars, they automatically consider the occupants as armed and dangerous.
Huge!
@@karlroveynot true.
@karlrovey Where did you get that information from? 😂
So they don’t have CCTV camera to see that the man visit the office , sign a document and was HANDED the key or vehicle??? Wtf is wrong with these people?!?!
You need to lend them some of your common sense. The dealership obviously doesn't have any.
Exactly man, they didn't even TRY to see where the car went. They just couldn't see it, so they automatically assumed stollen without even knowing how the car was moved. Hell, they apparently couldn't even ask their own employee's if they knew where the car went.
Imagine living a life where every time you misplaced something and instead of looking for it you called the cops because someone must have stolen it.
Yes someone jumped the gun. Got all excited to call the police without doing proper research.
Money
@@ladydi1079 dude, it's Kia. They DEFINITELY have some
How can a dealership make such a mistake when they gave him the car?
that's a question I don't think anybody can answer
@@illumonic9026 true, but that would be too smart for a money grubbing business like a dealership
It wasn’t a mistake … wink wink😜
What do they care? Rental car companies do this all the time too
Incompetence and lack of communication.
Police should charge management at that dealership as well. They were put in a bad position as well. Hope this guy wins his case, utterly ridiculous.
Why was he considered armed and dangerous?
You know exactly why 😂
Exactly 😂
Color of his skin.
And the fact it's california.
bc you dont steal a car with ur feets
@Xtremecherry95YT 😂😂😂 California, try the deep South. Especially Alabama and Mississippi.
My son used to work for a car dealership and said the front office loses keys and then runs to the detail team accusing them of having the keys! 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
He's right! They wouldnt ask...they would accuse! 2 cars were stolen off the BMW lot because the dealers left the keys out on their desks after closing they blamed the technicians and detailers and required us to get finger printed to prove it was an inside job. Refusal of providing finger prints was termination. I live in Florida
My Brother said the exact same thing! The Detailers get the blame for everything that goes wrong
@@ninam.1560 Tell him to document all of those interactions! Keep his phone at his side while recording so he at least picks up the audio. Start building his case against the people making accusations
I remember that one time me and my brother went to look at cars. My brother saw one that he really liked and the dealer guy said to keep looking at it that he was going to go look for the keys to look at the inside. While looking we saw that the keys were already in the ignition and my brother tried opening the car door and it was unlocked. The guy took about 40 minutes to come back to his surprised he found us inside the car waiting for him. He was so confused and concerned on how we got in the car since he couldn't find the keys until we told him.
@@patinpatin12 alot of dudes would have gotten a free car that day
He should absolutely sue the dealership for misleading information. Get millions
The dealership has no choice but to settle this. Hit their pockets good so this does not happen again. Make sure it's enough to pay off a house, 2 brand new cars and college tuition for your kids, and lawyer fees. At that point y'all can call it even.
Plus any taxes and fees.👍
I want you as a my judge if this ever happens to me. The judge probably laughed and give him 100 and a McDonald’s biscuit for his trouble
And don't buy a Kia.
@@hurricane37 for putting his life in danger?
I know you like the ghetto lottery but being detained for a few hours will only get he a used car
the dealership has full responsibility .
shame on that responsibility.
shame on the lack of it
It’s definitely black privilege, though. If this happened to a white guy, law firms wouldn’t be so eager to take his case. The law firms know the black guy will win purely on that
How exactly did the police think he was armed and dangerous unless the idiots who reported it stolen also reported being robbed for the vehicle at gunpoint
The dealership almost got him killed. If he doesn't force them to pay millions, they'll do it again.
Pay him millions! OMFG! That's not even worth $100 bucks.
Pay him 50 million
@@bigd3046 Not about the amount. It's about making the dealership to actually put proper processes and practices to prevent it from happening in the future again. Not just this dealership, but all dealerships.
Pay him millions? Lol
I don't know about millions but definitely should be some sort of pay. That's crazy they need to be held accountable
Stupid dealership do a better job at getting better office workers
They may have lost all there black customers and other races that don't like that kind of response.
How did the 911 dispatch come to the conclusion that this individual was armed and dangerous
How the hell do you deny something that actually happened? WTF?
Because they know they're screwed.
"We need to buy enough time to make up a credible story to get us off the hook for this."
I am curious if they didn’t update the information in the computer system; that the car was loaned to someone and who.
I am never going to borrow a car from any dealership. If I do, I’m gonna ask them to email that document to me that shows I borrowed the car from here. I got more trust issues after watching this than I did in the past.
White people
America
Lost the paperwork for the car loan but were able to find the contact information to call the wife…They had the couples original car, they had their number. Why did this escalate?! WTF did they say in the police report to make the cops believe they were dealing with threat requiring five officers!? This does not add up.
Stealing cars from a dealer ship would most likely mean they were prepared for any consequences so there is reasonable suspicion for a armed person during a traffic stop as he couldn’t be identified by the loaned vehicle due to no info so they would be stopping an unidentified driver
I was thinking the same thing.
@angelc286 Excellent, well stated! Part of the questions the victim's attorney should be using at trial against Kiv liars at the dealership who intentionally caused this to happen!
@@oinkytheink1228you didn’t even try to respond to the points laid out. They had all the family’s information. They could have given them a call. They already called the wife.
What likely happened:
1. The couple placed their car in a mechanic's care, as it's said that they were getting repairs on it.
2. The couple licensed the dealership's car as a loaner while it was being repaired.
3. Through negligence of the employees, the loan agreement was lost behind a filing cabinet.
4. The Kia dealership, noticing a car missing and not having an agreement, assumed the car had been stolen and reported it as such to the police.
5. The loan agreement was found in AFTER the report, and the dealership called the wife through that information.
Step #4, of course, is the source of the lawsuit: Surely someone at the dealership would remember a car being stolen, attempt to locate the original papers, or look through security footage to see if the car had been taken legally or not. I can't say why the dealership assumed the suspect was armed and dangerous other than the general assumption of "You don't commit grand theft auto without a gun", and of course, that assumption is a key point in the lawsuit.
This is all just MY conjecture, of course.
He better own the entire dealership when it’s said and done! 😡
Hear hear!!!!
They lost the loanership agreement? Don't they have it in their computer or at least a filing cabinet or at least save multiple copies?!?! Absolutely ridiculous
It " fell behind the filing cabinet " was their excuse
@@thomasfletcher760 I heard that part. Such a lame and pathetic excuse
Every document nowadays is scanned before being put away or being registered. That is a poor excuse. I hope they become millionaires.
Some places have real scummy staff who will do what ever they can to screw someone over, just to get money out of them. Had a friend of mine who rented a car from a car rental, and 3 days later got pulled over as the company had reported the car stolen, when he still had more than a week to return it. He sued and won the case, the rental company had apparently had a small record of claiming some cars as stolen. said location was shut down and all the staff arrested.
What’s really ridiculous was how much power the police was packing. I mean… assault rifles over a car theft? And the way they still aimed at him when he didn’t even try to escape in the car (I imagine that last one was part of a standard procedure to ensure the safety of the officers, but still.)
How do you go from not being able to find important paperwork to calling the police and reporting the car stolen 🤷
And saying he's an armed car thief for no reason
This is what I don't get. Someone that worked at the dealership clearly gave him the keys. Why not, you know, ask your employees if anyone knows what happened to the car before reporting it stolen?
Ever heard of the saying, "I'm surrounded by idiots". The paperwork is missing = stolen car. 🤦
A lot of things aren't black and white but this one sure sounds like it. Modest looking black dude. Two things come to my racist sale man who was supposed to help him or sale person didn't like something the customer did or said and got back at him for it .
I think the dealer wanted the car, couldn't find it on the lot so they checked to see if it were loaned out and when then couldn't find the papers they assumed it was stolen. But come on this was in 2021, do you mean to tell me there is no computer record of the car being loaned out? No...everything is on the computer these days, the "paper" is just a print out to be filed away or given to the customer. That begs the question, did the customer actually have the loaner agreement in the car?
This is bad policing. There was NO reason to think he, the individual specific drive, was "armed and dangerous". The fact that cops still get away with this is pathetic.
Sued them all no one is above the law.
when you sue , you have to sue everyone who's involved. That's the way it goes !!!
@@debbiec6216 The lawsuit can't target the individual of the company. It has to be the company. The only thing the company can do is fire the incompetent.
Donald trump apparently is 🤦🏼♂️
@@DarthSailorMoo They can sue the individual, but suing the company will reap in more money. That's why you always sue the company
@@sebilie No they can't...
Can you imagine the awkward conversation when he brought the car back to the dealership “so how was your experience “
😂😂😂😂😂
And then they point to a scratch they claim wasn’t there before 😂😂😂😂😂
they did NOT want him to take a few minutes and complete a service survey.
"Good, I'm about to get rich" 💰 🤑
😂😂
My guess is the dude at the dealership didn't like him and decided to SWAT him, then try to cover it up
I was literally looking for this comment 🎯
Yep!
I agree, and the fact he is with a woman of another race.
Facts
The incompetence of that dealership almost cost that poor man his life. That dealership needs to be shut down.
The crazy cops almost cost him his life
not shut down - the dealership needs to pay that man big $$
@@Emolga6274 the police brutality plus the dealership telling the police he was armed just added more to the case
I agree they have to close down, for CLIENTS SAFETY !
@@sinatraforeignSTFU. Fake news. The dealership never said he was armed. Standard practice is to always treat the occupants of a stolen vehicle as armed and dangerous.
I have no words for this level of incompetence.
Saying "allegations" is mind blowing! I'm surprised they didn't say "alleged!" The dealership was basically caught red-handed.
Suspicion of a crime shouldn't put you in extreme danger of being killed.
Welcome to America..
He wasn't in extrema danger. He complied and everything turned out fine.
@@hardwired4548He got lucky that the cops had their cameras on, the only way to keep those psychopaths in line is constant surveillance and a threat that they could lose their job and power, without cameras they would assult or kill whomever they wanted and fill out paperwork to get away with it
@@hardwired4548clearly unaware of what counts as danger.
And what would typically dealing with.
It can be as crazy as rolling a 20-sided dice. With the odd less in ur favor. An do as ur told an still roll a fail.
@@hardwired4548 That's what you think, they were pointing rifles at him, what if the rifle misfires? What if he turn around a little too quick and they think he as holding a gun instead of his phone?
Sue the incompetent dealership!
And cops
@@Emolga6274 You sue the 1 that prescribed the order not the 1 that administered the order
Was on his way to work and now hes getting paid.
This man was almost killed for nothing
Where in the video does it show he was almost killed?
@@zachgalante3577 multiple rifles pointed at him if he did something wrong and he couldve been killed
@@zachgalante3577 Did you see all the police , who all had their guns up , right towards him.
*That's a RED FLAG.
@@zachgalante3577 when the dealer lost the paper work for loaner....
😂😂😂
First off, how do you confuse loaning a car to a customer and thinking it was stolen? Second, where and how does "armed and dangerous" come into play in all of this? Third, the contract "fell behind the filing cabinet"? And lastly, why did the dealship call his wife and not the police to say it was all a big mixup? Something is definitely suspicious about that dealership.
Right. Fell behind the cabinet is crazy.
@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf Not necessarily. I worked in an office for 27 years, and at one point while we were moving file cabinets around, we actually DID find a document that had been lost for quite some time, it can happen.
@@Joe_Okey 😆
ANY stolen vehicle report is automatically treated as though the person MAY be armed and dangerous. They only knew that they had a report of a stolen vehicle, and NOT that the report was false, so they made the CORRECT stop for the report that they had. Mr. Rodgers did exactly what they said to do, which is why he ended up being just fine in the end. The police did NOTHING wrong given the report that they were given.
@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf More likely got paper-clipped to another document on a cluttered desk top, or was inadvertently thrown away with other unneeded paperwork that it was stuck to. Happened to me at the DMV, and caused me a lot of grief and money in the end.
He deserves to win this lawsuit. This is a horrible situation that could have gone wrong.
I’m a little confused, if it was reported stolen only how does that equal to armed and dangerous? Did the dealership report that the man had a weapon or used violence? Do police always assume someone is armed and dangerous when a car is stolen?
Could be their department policy
"For their safety"
Police do this to every stolen car
It is standard procedure to reported car thieves as armed and dangerous, I think it's because you could hide quite a few weapons in said car.
@@blitsriderfield4099Makes sense. Officers showed a lot of restraint not shooting him 🥴
I’m sorry. Dealership can deny all they want but they can’t argue with the video. Customer needs to win lawsuit and dealership needs to be charged with filing a false police report. Dealership also needs to lose their license.
Yes! And whoever the employee was needs to also be sued. Did an employee lose the paperwork and was trying to give his butt or something
The question I have who reported that he was armed
Just assumed if it’s stolen, super messed up
How can a dealership deny allegations when it’s on video and there is a police report that’s a stupidest thing I’ve ever heard pay up Kia
lawyer
Even with proof ppl get away with stuff & ppl get imprisoned with no proof
Sue the hell out of them!
Their attorney that was interviewed in the video will make certain of that.
This would be traumatic as all get out 😡. Who ever reported this dealership car as stolen should be fired (if they were an employee) and charged with something I don’t know. Very unsettling 😥
Reckless endangerment
Pay this man
Why wasnt this on a computer? Is this 1974?
I said the exact same thing!!!
@@CharlotteThomas74a lot of businesses had issues with computer hackers breaking in and stealing money from bank accounts etc. So they went back to using pen and paper lol.
@@tomtom1541 Oh, okay! Makes perfect sense!! Since things can easily be shuffled, pushed, and slid around, if the file cabinets and desks aren't pushed against the wall and there's an opening, there's always that possibility that some paperwork may have fallen behind at some point!! Guess their cleaners weren't such good cleaners and don't clean behind things🤦🏽♀️🤣🤣
That was my first thought 😂
@@Andy-xx3tt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boycott the dealership!!
How can they deny when they called his wife to explain their stupidity?
WHAT A LOUSY DEALER!!!
That has to have been a nightmare for this gentleman!! I’m so glad nothing happened. The dealership is 100% culpable.
Props to the editor, my left ear loved this story
I thought my headphone was messing up 😂
How stupid do you have to be to misplace a simple loaner agreement?
Misplace*
Not just that but the person that served him had NO recollection of loaning out that car?
@@askapk Definition of "displace": move (something) from its proper or usual position.
I hope that question was rhetorical. Because my answer would be VERY stupid.
This not the first time I am hearing about something like this
Hertz is good for reporting rented cars stolen!
Yea because this happened to me last year .
People need to realize: that pot smoking, hungover employee who didn't type half the things you just said? They're the ones that stand between you and a horrible day.
Once you grasp this, it becomes a MIRACLE that this doesn't happen every single day!
This dealership went to the hertz school of reporting.
We lost the paperwork showing we lent it to you, soooo we reported it stolen. Perfect logic..
Why was he considered armed and dangerous? Was it because it was a Kia?
Lol because it’s a felony stop.
No cause he was black
@@javier7717Exactly as usual.
I think that was just behavior on the police part. Unless the Kia dealership gave a description of the person that they said stole it.
@javier7717 literally, why would a company care about skin color? It was a mistake(even though I don't know why the dealership would say he is armed and dangerous, as no injuries happened).
The description was awfully vague, so it could be anyone
What a mess! This poor guy should sue!
dealership need to pay up! 💸💸💸
They put him in unnecessary danger, and dealership can't even own up to it.
Their attorneys likely strongly advised against admitting fault. That particular KIA franchise would have garbage legal council had they not.
wtf kind of dealership calls 911 and says the car is missing just bc they cant find the papers, they should be sued
Dealership be damned, that was one hell of a police response for a stolen car.
Right
They don't ever do that.
Nowadays you on your own if youre car is stolen.
@@ALo-yv2pjThey probably did it because it was via a place of business, and not privately owned vehicle.
The deputies had apparently been told that he was armed and dangerous, so that was the reason for the felony stop and how it was handled.
@@SoloPilot6 Why would they be told that he was armed and dangerous? If the reason for the call was that Kia "lost" the paperwork, they shouldn't have any clue about the status of him being armed or not. So Kia essentially lied to the cops to make sure their precious car would get more police attention?
Their carelessness could have cost this man his life,instead of making sure the car was really stolen before calling cops
How did they come up with armed and dangerous more to investigate a huge lawsuit should fix this
They deny it?? They wanna be sued apparently 😅
What
As if the dispatcher don't keep track of the call history
they'll just pay the judge off... this is america remember.
That is a bad time for a loaner car to be used
There needs to be more accountability than saying Opps.
What makes them think he was armed and dangerous
Tell me the fact that it was a felony Grand Theft Auto artifact that most cases they have a firearm or a knife😊
@danrise44 no, it's because it's a car that's been reported stolen. More times than not, that's going to involve a weapon or tool that can be used as a weapon
He was one misheard command away from being murdered.
It aint that hard bro just use common sense
@@idkanymore1298 people get nervous with multiple guns pointed at them.
@@idkanymore1298I hope you find yourself in this situation. Better yet, I hope it's someone you love.
@pharag4886 that's messed up dude, what would your mother say?
@@idkanymore1298 I sense that the person might have trouble in their personal life thar they can vent under the cover of anonymity. I think they deserve a bit of grace.
How terrifying and traumatizing! I pray justice wins and that useless dealership has to PAY for their egregious behaviour and attitude!! 🙏🙏🙏
Yeah the dealership denying their allegations. When there is video evidence available to the public on RUclips...
Why did they think he was armed and dangerous?
DWB
Because. Car. Thieves. Usually. Have. Guns.
@@randalls.6547do they?
@@randalls.6547 Unless its a carjacking, they normally wont be armed, this clearly wasn't and he also complied, so is no reason to think he would.
@@gregwren691 haha, this brought me back to that Chris Rock sketch video about DWB.
How is this guy considered armed and dangerous if it was just reported as a stolen car? How do they just assume hes armed and dangerous? Lol wtf
That Dealership owes them a new vehicle and a public apology.
Forget the car, a KIA. The dealership should be sued for at least 6 digits
They should buy him a Lexus
@@jojojayjay9617 Yes, the South Korean manufacturer KIA is directly responsible for the American employee of a KIA _franchise_ who "lost the agreement". 🤔
And money
Okay the Dealership needs sueing.
But what made the driver armed and dangerous? Who reported that? That needs investigating as well.
It was a felony stop
Unfortunately police departments and our courts in all states and the federal level have deemed police lives over civilian lives. Anything reported stolen, especially cars, have policies to engage with maximum hostility, guns drawn, dogs could be out, etc.
@@RasAlXander You mean because stolen cars historically tend to be driven by people who aren't happy to go to jail....
That part!!!
@@RasAlXanderAnything reported stolen results in felony stops and maximum hostility? Name a single department and the policy code as to where that’s permitted.
The Dealership is in the wrong for reporting it stolen but dont bring race into it why do people say oh its because hes black that has nothing to do with you some people like to cry wolf in situations like this
Whoever filed the police report should be charged for filing a false police report, and attempted murder.
Similar thing happened to my father on a test drive in 2008 a dealer let my father take a car he was thinking about purchasing home to show it to my mother (15 drive) so he drove it home my mother liked it he called the dealer and told them, on his way back someone called to say the car was stolen my father was pulled over and was handcuffed and detained after a few minutes it was cleared up by the dealer they apologized my father decided not to get the car from them!
Sue police department as well
So incompetent I'm leaning towards this being intentional.
You don't believe someone can be that incompetent? You hold humanity i far greater regards then I do.
What?? Was the Service Department asleep? You call out the SWAT team when a simple "Hey, Bob, did you loan this SUV out to Jamie?" would have sufficed?
Swat? 😂 that’s being a bit dramatic tbh
As much as I hate how rough cops can get and escalate the situation, this is one where I feel they followed procedure based on tip they got
It definitely falls more on the dealership than anybody else.
@@corstang3312 reg police don't generally carry assault rifles and full gear bud...
@@6z0he talking about the dealership you goof , they the one who made a false police report
Why would you be considered armed and dangerous?
Colour of his skin!
If the car was taken at gunpoint, I can see the police saying he's considered armed and dangerous. But it wasn't, so why the over the top police response?
It was a car that was reported stolen; this is the normal procedure for a felony stop. There was a very similar case in Oceanside, CA, very close to where this happened, where a family on vacation were subjected to a felony stop because Hertz falsely reported the car stolen. There's a video of that case on TMJ4 News channel on RUclips.
@@dr.g3860It shouldn't be SOP considering there's a statistically significant chance they they're making a mistake...
@@danielboone8435well it is so get over it
@@stevesmith756 This is America, so I think I'll use my free speech about it, then maybe vote about it later. You get over it.
@@danielboone8435 well you don’t get to vote on SOP for law enforcement. So once again you’ll have to get over it
I cannot imagine the terror he went through.
Hate crime. Cause they won't name the person who accidently said they misplaced the car. Without taking into consideration that the person may be racist and did this intentionally.
Lawyers will be smilling all the way to the bank😅
Isn't it a crime to file a false police report🤔🤔
No . The person actually thought it was stolen
@jonesmorales-tu6kq Well that person deserves to be sued by the victim and fired by the company and that dealership needs to ve sued also....
@@jonesmorales-tu6kq I always have heard ignorance is not a defense when a law is broken..
@@aznsketcher yes that's right
@@mrz6480 he or she won't be charge unless it was with malicious intent ...
Why did the wife pull the race card?
It happened 3 years ago and they still haven't won yet.
They'll win. Lawsuits taken forever to be processed for some reason. That guy that hit his head in a cruise ship received a million dollar payout eventually so it's worth the wait.
@@silverjeyjey4054Cases like this get deliberately strung out, hoping the plaintiff can't afford to keep paying fees and attorneys, and will just give up or settle.
That dealership knew what they were doing that’s why. It’s sad for the black guy to be put through that situation
@@_UsernameUnavailable_ On cases like this the attorney takes 33% of the settlement, if they win.
No upfront money required.... At least that is the way all of them work that i know of, plus the one i was involved in.
If you're the dealership... and one of your loaner cars just happens to go missing... wouldn't you think to contact the customer who last had it? Maybe there's some sort of mix up?
@@quasar3210
They should online/digital records and signatures of some kind, along with CCTV footage. There's a lot of ways they could have handled it better but calling the police to report the vehicle stolen by an "armed and dangerous individual" seems like the largest overreaction over uncertainty.
@@quasar3210 How'd they know his wife's number then, we're assuming they called the police then found the agreement and didnt bother calling off the police but called his wife instead?
I hope he gets all the justice that he is due.
WOW !!! DON'T GO TO THAT DEALERSHIP!!!
I’m glad everything turned out well for the driver of that vehicle and the officers did their job according to the law because they thought the car was stolen because that’s what the dealership told them. this man has every right to sue the dealership for putting him in that situation.
This guy did the right thing by complying. Cops did there job. Dealership is the one that needs to be held accountable.
Dealership is 100% at fault
Even they originally admitted to it, before their legal council began giving advice to the contrary.
I'm curious on the officers actions on how they assumed he was armed and dangerous, was there a report that violence was used during the alleged car theft? How do you lose an agreement for a loaner car? The dealership and the person who "lost" the agreement should be held liable for this
I think it was done on purpose!!!
Better be safe than sorry
So you think any person who does anything wrong at any business should be held legally liable? So I assume you have never once made a mistake that innany way caused anyone even the smallest amount of harm?
@@masterwayne27 I think you would start a race riot on purpose just to watch a city burn
@@jbrown4137 back the blue til it happens to you
I'm glad he was cool, calm and kept his wits about him during this horrible incident this could have end so much worst.
Why Did the Sheriff’s make him put his Shirt over his Head While Walking Backwards 🤨
So they can see if he might have a weapon in his waistband. Keeping the shirt over his head also keeps the ‘suspect’ a bit disoriented.
Did you even watch the subtitles, it’s explained exactly why
It's to make sure he doesn't had any weapon or dangerous device such as an explosive on him. Explosive could be a bomb, e-cigarette, cellphone, or anything with a lithium-ion battery on it.
They were looking for a concealed weapon--abs of steel and a strong back. Obviously.
@@marypasco2213 he could've let him put the shirt back down
I am impressed with the drivers understanding of the situation ❤
All I gotta say is that chic gives zero effs about her husband
As bad as this is, at least he didn't try to argue. He behaved so calm. I hope they win.