1 Samuel 15 3 Explained!
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- In this video, we discuss what many view as the most shocking verse in the Bible, and sometimes hard to understand. The verse in question is 1 Samuel 15 3, which talks about slaying Amalekites. What I share in today's video will help you understand why this happened in the Bible.
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hie there.... I'm an atheist yes I'm pro choice depending on the situation yes that's an option.....
when it comes to the old Testament I doubt most of it even happened.... there's an atheist channel called holy kool aid he has a series called why biblical history fails he makes alot of good arguments for why the Bible mostly old Testament is not history alot of apologists avoid it like the plague I'd like to hear your take on it coz in my view it destroys all biblical history
@@methembethomastshuma9587 You aren't looking for the right apologist. Anthony Rodgers, Sam Shamoun, Jay Dyer, and many many more. The old testament is historical fact and time continues to reveal this truth. Look up "Patterns of evidence" on the historicity of the exodus. King David has been proven to be an historical person. You aren't looking hard enough my friend.
@@kilemyers5365 I watched patterns of evidence and if you look even remotely enough it's just theories not actually evidence stuff "we found bones of goats" or "we found a colorful statue" on the surface it looks solid but under analysis by the actual experts it falls apart..... old testament is not history look at the flood story
@@methembethomastshuma9587 The flood event is a proven fact. There's no escaping the reality of who God is and the scriptures He inspired His church to write. You as an athiest have no logical grasp on reality. I don't mean this to be rude but atheism is one giant contradiction. You can not with the scientific method provide empirical evidence to support your paradigm. once you step outside the naturalistic world and into the realm of metaphysics and higher thought the atheistic world view crumbles. You will stand before Christ when you die and you will either be received as a son or you will be cast out for your rejection of your creator. completely apart from the physical evidence for the scriptures the metaphysical, mathematical and theological evidence. Christianity prevails as the most logically consistent worldview in light of the natural and spiritual revelation God has given us. Creation itself testifies to its creator. you however cant see this because you are contained within the box of materialism and naturalism. I pray the light of Christ opens your heart and mind to reality.
you arent an accident, you arent just a bundle of pointless cells on a pointless speck of dust in a pointless universe. You are made in the image of God who loves you and does not wish to see you perish. He sent His only begotten Son The second person of The Holy Trinity. ( One God Three divine persons) to take upon Himself the flesh of humanity. To die with you in your death so that you may resurrect with Him in His resurrections and live eternally in the perfect presence of God.
I ask how did they in the book of number chapter 31 they said we find 32 virgin that is 32 thousand and dont play hypocrit tell the truth they have raping the 32 madian and find the 32 madian it was 32 thousand of madian that was virgin they must have raped them dont play game and be hypocrit shut it
Ummm, you should have stayed away from this topic cuz ur defense in summary is that God:
1. Delays punishment for 400 years (Grace) not actually punishing the parties that took then actions but simultaneously punishing people that had nothing to do with those actions?
2. God was merely exaggerating.
Ummm, not very convincing even to many Christians.
Is God of Samuel the same God of Romans?
If you actually listened to the verse you would see that God states that the Amalekites continuesly live in sin, demonstrating that even if He waited 500 years, the Amalekites would continuesly do evil. The passage talks about God's patience, giving them 400 years to change, His mercy, and in the end, His divine justice.
@andrejjbratot if you actually think about what you read, you would ask yourself what the hell did the ox, sheep, and ass do, you know, cuz at least we all know those damn infants had it coming to them.
Read the Bible more, it mentions the Israelites not going fully with the whole things, even taking some of the oxes back home.
@andrejjbratot also think and reflect more about what you read because that would mean they ignored what God commanded. Question: Would you have obeyed God and killed the infants and random innocent animals or ignored what God had commanded?
Is God a Moral Monster? is an amazing book. It explains so much about the Old Testament and things that seem weird to us and our culture today.
Thank you I’ll look into it : )
It's not even the only place in the OT where God commands his people to exterminate entire cities, murdering anything that breathes, women and children included.
Making this scene even worse is that Saul spared the life of the king... and God becomes enraged by this. Saul is the bad guy for showing mercy. And Samuel, who enjoys God's favor, hacks the king to pieces right after the king is smiling and expressing his hope that they've all put death behind him.
Basically, the king is saying "Thank you for your mercy, Saul," while Samuel says "God wants you murdered and I must obey," before chopping him to bits.
Some God of love.
It actually and Numbers 31 are actually the only such places.
The problem is, Israelites and saul is also a sinners hence it was hypocritical of them to kill a child or an infant because of the delayed judgement. If God want to judge and punish them, do it his own, use the nature, dont use the sinners.
Saul was not even a true prophet... he was just the first king of Israel, anointed by the prophet Samuel.
In the narrative of 1 Samuel 15:3, the text presents the command to Saul quite directly, stating that God instructed him to utterly destroy the Amalekites and everything associated with them.
Throughout the biblical narratives, characters sometimes misinterpret divine instructions or act against God's command. Saul himself had a history of making questionable decisions and disobeying God's commands.
It's also worth noting that the broader context of Saul's character and actions is important for understanding his motivations and actions. Saul's character was complex, and he struggled with issues such as pride, insecurity, and impulsive behavior. This might have influenced how he carried out divine instructions.
Is the veil of understanding now lifted?
I respectfully came here to try to understand this verse u gave many answers.
1. It's and exaggeration
2. The animals had dark things in them.(somewhat u used another verse but okay)
3. God didn't even mean it in the first place coz they even wouldn't be there to begin with.
Any other explanation may have gone thru me sorry.
In short which reason is it???
U don't know for sure which one in my perspective so pls stick to one and explain it to me
@@somebody700 lol fr , they dare talk about the quran when they don't even see what their bible says 🤣🤣🤣
the Creator is pointing to his dual nature of kindness and severity.....kindness when we obey his voice by faith and severe in unrepentantness when we idolitize the created things more than his Majesty ultimately being disobedient to the voice from heaven:
hebrews 10:29 Just think how much worse the punishment will be for those who have trampled on the Son of God, and have treated the blood of the covenant, which made us holy, as if it were common and unholy, and have insulted and disdained the Holy Spirit who brings God’s mercy to us.
hebrews 12:25 Be careful that you do not refuse to listen to the One who is speaking. For if the people of Israel did not escape when they refused to listen to Moses, the earthly messenger, we will certainly not escape if we reject the One who speaks to us from heaven!
romans 2:4 Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that his kindness is intended to turn you from your sin? 5 But because you are stubborn and refuse to turn from your sin, you are storing up terrible punishment for yourself. For a day of anger is coming, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. 6 He will judge everyone according to what they have done. 7 He will give eternal life to those who keep on doing good, seeking after the glory and honor and immortality that God offers. 8 But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for themselves, who refuse to obey the truth and instead live lives of wickedness. 9 There will be trouble and calamity for everyone who keeps on doing what is evil-for the Jew first and also for the Gentile.[a] 10 But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all who do good-for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. 11 For God does not show favoritism.
romans 11:22 Notice how God is both kind and severe. He is severe toward those who disobeyed, but kind to you if you continue to trust in his kindness. But if you stop trusting, you also will be cut off.
Damn babies not leaving on their own, changing their mindset, or finding god. Any good being would demand them slaughtered. Whatever God says that people don't like, it's a metaphor. Anything he says loving is profound. All I hear is people making excuses villainous acts.
Jesus Christ loves everyone. He died for us all and rose on the third day. All you have to do is accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and repent from your sins and He will save you and grant you eternal life in Heaven.
@@Jesus_IsKing_7 wish he loved babies
@@serpenticide_555 Matthew 19:14
@@royaltyillia1356love them and hate them at the same time😂😂
@@serpenticide_555 The babies were sent to heaven, instead of growing up, committing sins and going to hell as they were pagan
None of the context you gave justified the killings of babies
Based on who’s standard?
@@InThyWord the standard God, Allah put in us. Just give up and stop trying to bend everything and make up excuses for killing BABIES. Now go read a good translation of the quran where retarded translations as illiterate and wife beating are left out. And do no touch hadith, hadiths have not been authorized by the Quran.
Peace. (Peace certainly excludes the spilling of babyblood)
@@InThyWord based on a god’s standard
@@GDL88 God’s standard says that you shall not sin. The Amalekites sinned. So God brought forth judgement on the Amalekites. It’s pretty simple.
@@arlkai9884 astughfirullah. God kills babies now?
That`s a very enlightening video.I did one of those Bible in one year marathon reads last year...I found huge parts of the Old Testament very difficult to understand and also extremely boring.The new testament was like a breath of fresh air.I nearly gave up the challenge because of some of the things i read in the Old Testament.Its just so heavy to read.However i did persevere and succeed,but yes,certainly stuff like you discussed in this video were a huge shock to me.This video has helped...Thank you.I often thought,i could never have become a believer just based on the OT alone....Another thing,is seeing Jesus throughout the OT..Ie it points to Jesus....I struggled with that idea too...I am sure there will be many Christians who have never read,or hardly ever read the OT......It is difficult for many reasons.Anyhow....Thanks again !!
Congrats on reading through.
There are definitely passages less exciting to read, but looking for Jesus makes it so much easier to understand and unlocks it more and more as you read it.
🙂
@@InThyWord dont be hypocrit and said god always to right think tell me in book of number chapter 31 moshe tell them kill all the women of madian who has slept with man but keep for yourself the virgin and they.have fond 32 thousand of virgin how everybody now in war soldier has no pity they have raped 32 thousand of madian to see there virgin just shut it up
Jesus was not loving. He was a brutal tyrant and he was not afraid to flaunt his power.
Jesus rules with an iron fist. Just accept it. We follow a powerful and oppressive god and there is nothing wrong with having his followers murder babies and children and women. Nothing wrong with that at all. After all, god accepted human sacrifices as payment.
Found this passage for the first time while reading the Bible end to end. Reviewing this passage after Oct Seven 2023 .
It was cited in a readout of an official speech from policy makers currently attacking the civilians the Gaza. My issue with this passage is that history is repeating. Substitute bronze age Amaleks with 21st Gazan.
Thanks for that video. I found it interesting.
Exaggerated language? Was it Saul that spared some animals and that's why he was kicked off the throne for not obeying fully?
Jesus Christ loves everyone. He died for us all and rose on the third day. All you have to do is accept Him as your Lord and Saviour and repent from your sins and He will save you and grant you eternal life in Heaven.
@@Jesus_IsKing_7 he loves everyone except the 70,000 people he killed because David did something he didn't like. He loves everyone except a lot. He certainly does not love everyone. Sometimes Christians tell me that when he eternally tortures people, that's how he expresses his love. Not a very nice kind of love... He didn't love the entire world when he flooded it and killed everyone and said he regretted making humans lol. He only died for those he will save. He didn't die for those that he isn't saving...... that'd sure be nice though wouldn't it?! Like Adam's sin caused us ALL to die, but Jesus doesn't cause us ALL to live :( Failed.
How can you defend murdering babies? Seriously!
exactly
Thank you sir for the clarity of bible passages🤔🙏I like the gospels of Jesus Christ Messiah golden girdle angel for the law was imperfect of Moses times and made perfect in love and true grace and nature of God to us humans so the manifestations of the son of God made by God himself amen.💜🦁👑🦅
God bless you my brother, evil has to go for good to thrive, it’s just a fact. Light and dark don’t mix, so if a vessel is now full of darkness and furthermore creating darkness, it haffi go😭🔥He is even so merciful to give them time , warnings and continue their bloodline.🥹❤️
By committing an evil act
Weird. I didn't know there was a "context" for killing _babies._ Ugh.
Saul was not even a true prophet... he was just the first king of Israel, anointed by the prophet Samuel.
In the narrative of 1 Samuel 15:3, the text presents the command to Saul quite directly, stating that God instructed him to utterly destroy the Amalekites and everything associated with them.
Throughout the biblical narratives, characters sometimes misinterpret divine instructions or act against God's command. Saul himself had a history of making questionable decisions and disobeying God's commands.
It's also worth noting that the broader context of Saul's character and actions is important for understanding his motivations and actions. Saul's character was complex, and he struggled with issues such as pride, insecurity, and impulsive behavior. This might have influenced how he carried out divine instructions.
Is the veil of understanding now lifted?
@@stayinyourlaneinyour-mf-lane but in the verse it clearly shows that god is the one saying that
@@alykhaled5847 Saul said that God said that...
@@stayinyourlaneinyour-mf-laneI’m Christian I was just wondering if u can send some verses of Saul not following gods commands
@@Justice111991. In the account found in 1 Samuel 28, Saul faces a critical situation as the Philistine army gathers for battle against Israel. Saul is filled with fear and desperation because God is no longer answering him, either through dreams or prophets. In his distress, he turns to alternative sources for guidance, specifically seeking out a medium, often referred to as the Witch of Endor.
The use of mediums or those who consult with the dead was strictly forbidden by the Mosaic Law in the Old Testament (see, for example, Leviticus 19:31 and 20:6). Saul, who was once chosen and anointed by God to be the king of Israel, now finds himself in a dire situation where he goes against God's commands.
Saul disguises himself and goes to the medium, asking her to summon the spirit of the deceased prophet Samuel. The medium is initially hesitant but agrees to the request. To Saul's shock, the spirit of Samuel actually appears, and he delivers a message of doom and judgment. Samuel informs Saul that because of his disobedience and rejection of God's commands, the Lord has turned away from him. He predicts the imminent defeat of Israel in the upcoming battle with the Philistines and foretells Saul's death.
This event highlights Saul's departure from relying on God for guidance. Instead of seeking God's counsel through prayer and repentance, Saul turns to forbidden practices out of desperation. The consequence of consulting the medium serves as a tragic turning point in Saul's life, marking the end of his reign and foreshadowing the impending defeat in the battle against the Philistines. It underscores the importance of faithfulness and obedience to God's commands in the biblical narrative.
2. Attempted Annihilation of the Priesthood (1 Samuel 22): After Saul perceived that David was a threat to his kingship, he began to pursue David relentlessly. In his paranoia, Saul ordered the massacre of the priests of Nob because they had assisted David. This act not only went against God's command to honor the priesthood but also resulted in the death of innocent people who were loyal to David. One priest, Abiathar, escaped and joined David, and Saul's ruthless actions further demonstrated his departure from God's principles.
Amen thank you brother.
But there's many other examples in the Bible and first Samuel 15 several and Exodus about God saying to wipe out all the people everything that breathes. You just have to say that there must be a divine reason for it because God knows the future he knew that they were going to do this and he let them do it so there's a defined reason and God could kill whoever he wants because he's God he could do whatever he wants he gives life and he takes life.
The amalekites, amorites, canaanites and the others descended from the nephilims so they are an abomination to God. And they worship pagan gods, sacrifice their children to pagan gods such as moloch, Baal, asteroth, and many others who really are demons. God had given them grace period to mend their ways but they refused.
Wow Christianity is so loving 😅😅
@@T.T.T416 Chrisanity starts with Jesus Christ. This event was in the Old Testament
@@damareshizukani7957 right so it starts with the man who ordered tye g****cide
@@damareshizukani7957wasn’t it not Jesus who commanded this?
@@DeathMorethanlife that’s the question they are afraid to answer
@@damareshizukani7957 so you’re saying that the Old Testament is not the words of God?
That " god" of the bible never kept his promise and makes him a liar . John 8 : 44
Very good episode, especially regarding the point that they had the chance to flee with the kenites. Well worth looking into again! I was reminded of the hardening of Pharaohs heart.....Paul said God was 'Longsffering' with the vessels of wrath( gave them chance to repent) ROM 9:22....so like the Amalekites, Pharoah could have done the right thing, but chose not to.
Yeah totally fair that a god was telling pharaoh to do something while also influencing him to not do it 😂. What a twisted god you serve
Jesus was not loving. He was a brutal tyrant and he was not afraid to flaunt his power.
Jesus rules with an iron fist. Just accept it. We follow a powerful and oppressive god and there is nothing wrong with having your followers murder babies and children and women. Nothing wrong with that at all. After all, god accepted human sacrifices as payment.
Did the Infants have a chance to flee?
Who told you Muslims believe in the Old Testament? We utterly reject it. We accept the Torah that was revealed to Moses and before you ask, no it is not the same Torah as the one that’s found in your modern day bible. Secondly I would gladly love to hear similar passages in the Quran about the killing of innocent children babies and women? Thanks
Quran 18:74-76, Quran 18:80
It's always...
They didn't mean that.
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Saul was not even a true prophet... he was just the first king of Israel, anointed by the prophet Samuel.
In the narrative of 1 Samuel 15:3, the text presents the command to Saul quite directly, stating that God instructed him to utterly destroy the Amalekites and everything associated with them.
Throughout the biblical narratives, characters sometimes misinterpret divine instructions or act against God's command. Saul himself had a history of making questionable decisions and disobeying God's commands.
It's also worth noting that the broader context of Saul's character and actions is important for understanding his motivations and actions. Saul's character was complex, and he struggled with issues such as pride, insecurity, and impulsive behavior. This might have influenced how he carried out divine instructions.
Is the veil of understanding now lifted?
@@stayinyourlaneinyour-mf-lane yes sauls character does play a part good point bro
1:10 thats me now and im seeking for answer
You make some really excellent points here, and you’re not wrong. But as one who knows ancient Hebrew allow me to present another aspect to it. Amalek was dedicated to the total destruction of Israel and they didn’t try to do it bravely but in a cowardly manner just as you point out.
But we have to recall that the Five Books of Moses absolutely forbid killing the children for the sins of the parents see Deuteronomy 24:16. In verses where God exacts judgment upon the third and fourth generation “of those who hate me” it means that those generations still hate God and do the evil their fathers did. That’s what the verses mean.
Now that’s the Law of Moses. And while there are many Prophets there is only one lawgiver, Moses. No Prophet may promulgate laws that go against the law of Moses and if they do they’re a false prophet. (Jesus NEVER abrogated any law of Moses. He only clarified the laws and illustrated their spiritual and moral purpose.)
Samuel was not a false prophet so what could he have been doing when making this command?
If you look at 1Samuel 15:3 it shows that Samuel tells the people to smite Amalek whose whole raison detre is to destroy Israel and of course the Kenites are told to leave first. It appears to me that the only difference between Kenites and Amalekites is that Kenites are righteous and fear God, Amalekites oppose God but just because you are born an Amalekite doesn’t mean you necessarily stay one if you turn to God. Then you become a Kenite. It’s all their choice.
So being an Amalekite is a choice and Amalek should be understood not as a nation or tribe or family but as a spiritual order. They have a mission and a purpose, an evil unholy one. That’s why both men and women among them should be killed. It’s no different from modern Israel wiping out Hamas. Hamas recruits men and women alike. It’s a noble virtuous thing to do to destroy them.
But why babies and sucklings?
I say that there are no babies and no sucklings among Amalek at all, because babies and sucklings don’t have a choice to become Amalekites.
The word for baby used is עלל and it’s related to the word עלילה which in Ancient Hebrew means pretense or plot. It’s the exact same word used in Psalms 137:9 where it’s supposedly good to dash Babylonian babies against a rock. But the same word for ‘babies’ is עלל so I say the verse means “Fortunate is he who grabs and smashes your pretenses against the Rock (the Rock being God as He’s portrayed thus elsewhere.”). While the word for “suckling” is יונק which means “the sucker” or ״the one who takes nourishment from” or even you could say “the parasite.”
So what Samuel is telling us to do is to kill these ancient Hamas people and to not have mercy on the עלל that is the grifter. The one who is pretending to be an Amalekite for whatever personal gain, while the יונק means the one who uses Amalek and mooches off them. These kinds too are dangerous. That’s literally what I see it meaning because otherwise would violate Gods rules given to Moses.
As for the animals well animals are very sensitive. They become affected by what’s around them. The evil or foolishness humans do rubs off on their animals and affects them too (look at how the Biden’s’ dog keeps biting Secret Service agents.). This must be even more true for large animals. You try take them home you’ll find them unmanageable and vicious.
This is a very good explanation for it, thank you. Was trying to find things on 1 Samuel 15:3 for a while and I think this makes it far clearer.
Muslim position is the best. This is not the world of God.
Saul was not even a true prophet... he was just the first king of Israel, anointed by the prophet Samuel.
In the narrative of 1 Samuel 15:3, the text presents the command to Saul quite directly, stating that God instructed him to utterly destroy the Amalekites and everything associated with them.
Throughout the biblical narratives, characters sometimes misinterpret divine instructions or act against God's command. Saul himself had a history of making questionable decisions and disobeying God's commands.
It's also worth noting that the broader context of Saul's character and actions is important for understanding his motivations and actions. Saul's character was complex, and he struggled with issues such as pride, insecurity, and impulsive behavior. This might have influenced how he carried out divine instructions.
Is the veil of understanding now lifted? Have you observed Sheikh Uthman presenting those verses to individuals less acquainted with the expanse of the Bible? Is my assessment astray?
What religion behind 9 11 answer my question ?
Read 2:246-252 of the quran its the same story 😂
Yeah 4:24 of the quran is the word of God ? 65:4 Is the word of God? God agrees with pedophilia?
@@tarrao-gb4en read it again, you might need glasses.
The context is that god used them to kill other people and babies...dont try to change the context.
Saul was not even a true prophet... he was just the first king of Israel, anointed by the prophet Samuel.
In the narrative of 1 Samuel 15:3, the text presents the command to Saul quite directly, stating that God instructed him to utterly destroy the Amalekites and everything associated with them.
Throughout the biblical narratives, characters sometimes misinterpret divine instructions or act against God's command. Saul himself had a history of making questionable decisions and disobeying God's commands.
It's also worth noting that the broader context of Saul's character and actions is important for understanding his motivations and actions. Saul's character was complex, and he struggled with issues such as pride, insecurity, and impulsive behavior. This might have influenced how he carried out divine instructions.
Is the veil of understanding now lifted?
They brought that on themselves when they attacked Gods people who are u to question God was u there when he created the heaven and earth
1:26 Muslims accept the Old Testament? Who told you that?
your prophet
Read your quran, you are commanded to follow the Torah.
there is a misunderstanding, muslims believe in the original torah and the incil, not what we know as today the old testament, we believe it was corrupted a lot and even many years before isa as already. so we don‘t believe this is 100 % gods words
also we don‘t have verses like that, more the opposite we have law where women, children animals, environment, elders are not allowed to be harmed
@DIRECTEDBYH in Islam you can beat your wives, marry and have sex with minors and fight all non believers. Try again pedo
@@DIRECTEDBYH this is an absolute lie, allah slaughtered thousands of innocent cannonites
Thank you for the data.
Kind of accurate. Joseph being selled to slaves is a messy text, mostly because is a mix of 4 versions in one.
what did the donkey do to die?
Or the babies!
Think about the infants!!!
@@FriedFlakes667 did allah think of the infants in sodom and gamorrah, or when starving the pharoah's people? Are you also okay with al khidr killing in an innocent boy? You clearly don't know your own book.
@@EHed-kv2wb Prophet Khizr (as) obviously had knowledge and permission from God. He had permission to intervene. By unaliving the child he saved him from becoming a hell-goer. Kid died and went to eternal paradise.
Compare that to the god of the OT who commands a literal g-noc-de against infants. With absolutely no justification to why he did so. They didn’t have a reason to be done like that.
@@FriedFlakes667 right so you ignore the context of the Amalekites for generations mass murdering the Israelites. For GENERATIONS. Similar to how Israel has been mass murdering palestinians for generations (strange how Israel has become Amalek themselves). Also the children were spared in Samuel 15:9 anyway as God is All Knowing and knew Saul would disobey him, which is why God specifically punishes Saul for keeping Agag alive and keeping the livestock for himself. While no child is killed because God considers children good and innocent, your allah allows the murder of an innocent boy because of what he'll do in the future. How loving. And you are also fine with allah starving people.
Muslims don't except the old testament that we have now
Because they make up excuses since the Bible doesn’t match their nonsense, their book says to believe in it
@@agirl8313 what do you know about their book?
@A Girl no they don't believe in the old testament because it says in another verse that it has been corrupted and that the real one used to be the world of god but people changed it.
@@19togo62 it has been changed tho, bible is one big game of Chinese whisperers
Ka boom ka boom for allah
Thanks for the video. I can proudly say im a muslim and christianity will never be an option. respectfully
no one asked
@@ulrohermit1369how can u be so inhumane that u beleive in g^^^cide
Dude you dont have the cultural context that makes genocide okay!
Thanks brother now Iam so convinced to be an atheist
Try the Quran, you might change your mind. However 2:236 "Theres no compulsion in religion"
Habakkuk 2:3-4 NKJV - “For the vision is yet for an appointed time; but at the end it will speak, and it will not lie. Though it tarries, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV- "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."
This the best video I've seen, clear cut explanations i love it God bless. 😀
That was a fallen angel posing as the heavenly Father . even David said " you are god because what I've heard and read about."
numbers 31;18 Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Exactly why Jesus refered to the father in heaven not yahweh . here is your answer ( john 5 : 37 ) and James. 1 : 13 to know why his father is not yahweh. Jesus has risen and more .
Why give people a chance to change when he's all knowing and no that they won't change that doesn't make any send it's like watching a movie and expecting a different result to something you've already seen
epic monkey Thanks for the question.
I believe there's clear examples why God giving all people time makes sense.
1. It means WE cannot claim God did not give us a chance to follow him or believe in him but freely chose to reject him for whatever reason they so choose.
2. This showcases the Love of God, that although we sin against God, he is willing to forgive even our most wicked deeds.
3. Most importantly for us, the Bible says God wants all to choose him, and angels rejoice when just 1 turns to God. With time there are those who change. One soul is precious and many examples in the Bible, and in life today showcase people eventually coming to him. They would never have this opportunity if God never gave a chance.
@@InThyWord is why I said in my question from a couple of weeks ago why does God place people in their situations because if he's all knowing and at the point of knowledge of somebody's life still allows them to exist in the circumstance he is placing them in that situation but what happens to the people that never get psychological help and go off to commit horrible crimes Lisa Montgomery was abused far worse than I could ever imagine she ended up killing somebody and cutting out their unborn child psychologist said that she was in a state of dissociation how can a person like that not have been intervened by God instead she's likely in hell now because she was executed why are the people who have been through so much pain just expected to trust believe and praise a god that has done nothing to prevent their pain and trauma are we just God's pets and that's why we answer him? I'm genuinely asking because it's how I feel and perceive things so I'm just trying to gain a different perspective
@@InThyWord and last point because I don't want to Spam messages I kind of asked a lot of questions but Beth Thomas who was basically a child psychopath at 6 years old because of what she went through help from psychologists that were able to help her have a functioning adulthood would she have gone to hell if she never got that help this is what I wonder what happens to the trauma victims that can't follow God's wishes
I get your point, I want you to consider the alternative which would be, we are on earth and God does not give us the will to make choices.
So you only do what God wants. This would make you God's pet, because you did not choose this situation and have no choices in the situation.
I do not believe God ignores mental capacity or age.
@@InThyWord is this not what heaven is supposed to be. Will we not have free will in heaven? Yet never be able to do any wrong? It is silly to say an all powerful being couldn’t have made it this way on earth
Even if this was hyperbole, your god has a potty mouth and a petty mindset.
A lady drownwd her kids becaude god told her to . Seems as if she didnt know it was a hyperbole.
love your enemies they said😂😂
12.00 but i thought jesus was the only person to see god No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father’s side, has made Him known.
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@@InThyWord thanks
Your channel is awesome glad you make videos
This verse had confused me greatly ngl thanks for helping me here
Glad to help
Thank you so much 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
How to know that it's hyperbolic because hyperbole is always vague, but giving specific things to kill doesn't make it hyperbole.
Unfortunately people don’t understand how ancient history would write documents. Hyperboles and figures of speech was the way of writing and understanding the past.
@Elohel go kill everything is not the same as go kill people, children and trees the first one doesn't really mean to kill everything. The second one is not the same because it's not vague. How would you know the way they wrote in the past if you don't even have the original scriptures in Aramaic?
Thank you for this brother
Can god die?
No
No but ordering the murder of infants means he probably should.
@@TheArkman360 you should shut your mouth for your own good 💪🏾👌
As soon as you start saying HOW I CAME ACROSS MY KNOWLEDGE your manipulating. If what you are saying is true you don’t have to try and fix the conversation by giving the listener options on how they came about this question.. it’s fkn obvious there’s only a few way to come across this question .
Could someone explain is Jesus is eternal and Jesus’ message is to turn the other cheek and not seek revenge, wouldn’t God (Jesus) be the one ordering the killing of these babies (who would have had nothing to do with the sins of their elders)? Also further down in the passage it says that they chose to spare some animals but no mention of sparing any children? This doesn’t seem fair to me and I don’t get how it works with the loving conception of God can someone explain?
Children carry generational curses, meaning they are already demonic at birth or at a very young age if their parents are worshiping false gods such a baal or living in sin, hence why they were not spared. The animals which were killed were most likely those which had been abused or victims of beastiality and so were unclean. The animals who had not been treated as such were clean and so were spared.
Thank you for your teaching! You are very knowledgeable.
You are very welcome
Pro-choice I mean I'm pro-choice purely because which is a better scenario rape victim has an abortion to heal get on with her life and have children when she is able or she keeps the child and unintentionally kill the child due to neglect because she wasn't in a mental state to raise the child is it better the child dies before it has a chance to experience things or after being born and the mother goes to prison
I agree with you epic monkey that sexual assault is wicked behaviour, but I also view murder as worse than sexual assault, as do most governments who punish murder more seriously than sexual assault.
Taking life in the womb is a punishment on the child who did nothing wrong. We do not have power to make those decisions morally.
The woman could seek help and then give the baby away to someone who does want the baby. And I thank God these circumstances only happen 1-2% of the time in pro-choice decisions, so the wide majority of pro choice cases do not fall under this circumstance.
@@InThyWord the thing is though with rape comes a lot of psychological pain and issues that need to be dealt with if there's no support system for the mother it's possible that child might not even have a chance to live I've seen so many cases where people who aren't equipped to take care of children have left their children to Fester to the point of maggots and other horrific things why is it better that baby consciously suffers in life instead of preventing that life from happening because of my own experiences in life I've been assaulted sexually myself and and when I was younger I used to come across as a crazy person I'm very easily could have been imprisoned or sectioned because of my mental health I'm not completely religious but I know in life I never going to have children because I see this world with too much suffering this is no place to raise a human and to be honest it's very difficult to grasp God and his existence because he is all knowing because if he knows somebody's timeline and still put them on that path and leave them to it I personally feel he is responsible to some degree because if I knowingly gave a child to a gang for example but then I punish the child for turning out differently to how I expect 18 years later I should have been there for that child personally I feel like god hasn't been there for me he's just enabled my suffering and placed me in a situation he demands I forgive and love and honour my father who was the one that hurt me in the first place I don't have the strength to forgive I don't have the the willingness to be fine with somebody walking around live with pleasurable memories of my traumatic experience it's an agonizing thought of forgiving that person once they are dead I could but but until then I really don't see how I can people keep saying talk to Jesus but I get silent one-sided nothing I'm talking to air and religion is getting tiresome and it already depresses me but it says seek and you shall find and I'm really trying but at the end of the day I'm sick of existing and I want an afterlife of my own if I know that god exists then I will abandon all the that because I know that it will never happen until then I can only guess of God's existence because I don't feel any magical spirit that makes people as happy as they can claim to be when he supposedly comes into their life and fix them now really I hate being honest but this is all for the seek and you shall find I'm giving it my all to try and find god what is hard when God creates a rapist knowing what they are going to do and then judging the victims because of the emotional pain that keeps them from being able to forgive
I'd rather you be honest, than lie or stay silent. But I want you to be open to reason too.
I get from your words you are broken and do not want to forgive. But think about what I say next...
According to God, your sin against God is far greater from God's perspective than anything your father did to you. Why should God forgive you if you cannot forgive your father?
Thanks for the lesson I was worried a lot how am gonna answer my Muslims friends who are lost believing in allah the fake prophet
Allah isn’t a prophet
That was alot of fluff to say it's okay to slaughter babies😅
Also for Muslims, in the time of Moses, you should follow Moses. In the time of Jesus, you should follow Jesus. Jesus didn't write that trash.
I mean your quran agrees with these brutal times. Also agrees with the famine of pharoah's people, the flooding of noah's people, the destruction of sodom and gamorrah, etc.
@@EHed-kv2wb There is nothing in Islamic scripture that says it's okay to kill babies.
@@ARAA91 hadiths do. Even then do you agree with allah flooding people, raining down stones on sodom & gamorrah, incurring famine on the pharoah's people? Or al khidr killing an innocent boy for what he will do in the future?
i don't recall seeing or hearing a muslim point about 1 samuel to christians israel
i think you are being judgmental
Muslims have pointed it out to me🙂
@@lindakeyes9353 of course as a response unless if you mention the verse in the Quran when it says to kill the unbelievers
but when you don't know the context maybe they will point to 1 samuel that look even your God in the OT order for kills etc...
but another thing no where in the Quran state that we should kill females or childrens
there is rules in wars the prophet said you don't kill a women nor a children nor an old Man nor cut a tree ......
@@mrenigma1564 lol.
Stop being judgmental 🤦♂️.
Your Quran only now? hahahahah. Typical running from Hadith to try and look good. Embarrassing.
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Ah but the difference is🙂 The Amalekites were evil doers and were punished! Were as the Koran orders folk killed simply for being none believers 😉.....
@@lindakeyes9353 does even the amalekites children were evil ? 🙂🙂🙂 and about killing none believers MAN
here is a passage in your own bible that state that this mighty one will kill his enemies and be victorious over them
pslam 45 3-7
Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty.
4 In your majesty ride forth victoriously
in the cause of truth, humility and justice;
let your right hand achieve awesome deeds.
5 Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies;
let the nations fall beneath your feet.
This is the same thing we would do in modern day if there was an actual super dangerous virus.
I guess it's a good thing there isn't a super dangerous virus.
Who came here from family guy 😂