🟡 Are Fuji X cameras as good as Leica? Let's find out!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- One camera brand I've never given any time to is Fuji. Will a Fuji X vs Leica gives the same result?
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It is not about the camera brand, it is about the photographer ! So if you cannot get as good photos with a Fuji camera as with a Leica, do not blame the brand.
Before my Q3 I had several Fuji cameras. Based on my experience I’d get an X-Pro2.
Thanks Phil!
Matt, I have X-Pro3, Leica Q, and Leica M (Voigt 40mm/1.4 and Summicron 50mm/2). I've never put the Voigt on the X-Pro3 but will sometime soon. I do 75% street so ANY camera works for that with enough light. I would say the M with Summicron is only slightly better than anything I've done with Fuji. I think 99% of the population could never tell the difference at all between that and APS-C. I will say the camera that beats them ALL from usability and the one I grab most often is Fuji X100V with a leather case and neck strap. NOBODY sees it when I'm doing street! Portraits are soft at f2, landscape is excellent, street is amazing, and the 35mm equivalent is tops for documentation, vacation, and I even did a product shoot with it. It's the one I grab the most, 'nuff said. But you are looking for interchangeable and I think X-Pro3 is an AMAZING camera that blows Leica away in usability, size, ergo, features, etc.
Thanks and noted. I think I’m getting one to borrow so say tuned!
X-Pro1 shooter here…. Love that body, the sensor is brilliant for its age. But it is clunky to use and slow. Probably advise the X-Pro2 for the sensor, better EVF etc. Get an M adapter that is a helicoid type… best of both worlds, normal and macro use in one lens. Aside from depth of field differences, in real world use I doubt many people can really tell one system apart from another, especially if you’re using stylised presets to edit shots. That’s what I think anyway.
Thanks Derren and good shout on the helicoid style adapter. I use those on my SL and love them! Yes the plan is once I add my preset look I can hopefully get some decent images vs Leica. Thanks for your help!
X-Trans 1 and 2 are really hard to beat.
I have both Fuji and Leica. An X-pro 1 is no more clunky or slow than a Leica M and provides wonderful colours OOC. The Fuji X 35mm f1.4 is as good as Leica lenses and beats anything Voigtlander can offer. I have made excellent huge enlargements with this Fuji combination.
@@johnhoward2577 you're not wrong. I have x3 X-Pro1 bodies and a Leica M9.... if you're a first time shooter of an X camera, the X-Pro1 isn't the quickest to operate nor is it the slowest. Just expect a more considered approach when using one to a newer body is the point I'm making.
Go for the small form factor, probably X-pro 3. The XE line is even smaller but doesnt have the hybrid viewfinder. Id love to hear your opinion on the Fuji X system!
Thanks for the info! Yes I thought it might be an interesting project (and for those with Fuji wondering if Leica is any better).
I find that viewfinder a pain in the ass and I stick with the EVF. It’s not really a rangefinder. It’s not much different from the viewfinder on my Brownie Starlight that I had as a kid. That’s why I found the X-E2 to be the same camera as the X-Pro line, without out the useless viewfinder. 😄
Fuji X-Pro 3 is a bit quirky because of the rear screen but once you use it becomes a lot of fun. It's great for manual lenses with the official fuji x to m adapter, as you can save custom settings for each lens you use. The other fun aspect of fuji is being able to create a film recipe, save it, and then shoot the camera like film in terms of a colour profile anyway. Enjoy!
Noted thanks!
I sold my Fuji XPro2 back in 2020 to help fund my first Leica the MP240. For years later I recently bought another Fuji XPro2 and thinking of selling my Leica MP240 as the Fuji XPro2 (in my experience) is a better camera. I love me MP240 but Fuji colours are on another level :)
Wow this is super interesting. You’re the first Fuji user I’ve met that’s gone back to Fuji from Leica. I’m excited to make some videos!
I have acquired a couple of cameras thanks to you and other constructive content creators in this space that have left me quite happy with my choices. My rotation includes the Fujifilm X-T5, Leica MP-240, Leica M3, Canon III, and Mamiya C330f. I must say that each camera satisfies different things and each has its own set of shortcomings. My Fujifilm camera is a wonderful tool to use in daylight or studio lights, but as others have noted, the X trans 5 sensor and others in the APS-C lineup struggle to produce noiseless image in low light situations. My Leica MP-240 doesn’t have image stabilization so even though it’s DNG files may perform better in low light settings once I put them in Lightroom, some shake is noticeable when I am forced to use a slower shutter speed. I recognize a tripod could help alleviate this issue but I don’t really care to carry one around for street photography. Regardless of the camera in my humble collection, I enjoy using each one. Are they perfect? Not at all but neither am I.
Thanks for sharing!
X-Pro2 or XT-3 I would say. And forget the RAW files if you going for the Fuji experience. Go for the awesome Fuji film simulations.
Thanks Hans, noted. (I think I'll need to do JPEG+RAW for a proper test)
agree these are best choices on a "budget"
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yes, please don't compare Leica RAWs to Fuji JPEGs as that would be pointless. The JPEGs are cool but for a proper professional test comparing RAWs is more important (ISO, grain, DR and so on)
My journey started with XT1 2015, was happy then upgraded to XPro2. Used it for 5 years at least, traveled a good bit for street. Loved it. Felt it was becoming dated and sold it while it was still hot, actually made money on it.
Then I upgraded to a brand new XT5 the launch month. I’m happy with its performance.
I’ve never used the xpro3. I was hoping there would have been an xpro4 but wasn’t yet so that’s why I went with the XT5.
Thanks!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom then there is a part of me that wants to sell my XT5 and all my Fuji lenses (I have quite a few) to put towards a Leica digital M body. I could then use my M and LTM lenses across film/digital. I do have adapters for M to Fuji X.. but with a crop sensor it just doesn’t seem ideal when the focal length changes. I’ve never actually used a Leica digital body and I’m happy with Fuji results (I love in body film recipes), so I can’t really justify the leap.
I went from Leica M-D/Leica M3 to GFX system (huge change literally) with GF (45-100, 20-35) and prime Mamiya 645 lenses (80/1.9 and 110/2.8 are my faves for portraits) and more recently (because I wasn't happy with the AF in Fuji X series on testing) to Nikon Z. The Nikon is a dream to shoot manual lenses too; my Voigt, Zeiss and Leica lenses work really nicely.
Thanks for the insight. I own both those lenses! Great.
..M645 lenses *
XPRO-2 is the way to go!
Thanks! It seems the most recommended so far
If 28mm and 50mm equivalents are your lenses, the x-pro2 with the framelines and automatic magnification in ovf mode, just can’t be beat. I used to have that camera, and I still regret selling it.
It'll be interesting to see how or if they differ in their focusing ability.
If I can focus accurately it’s a minus straight away. We’ll see!
And while you are at it, how does the Fuji 18mm f/1.4 lens compare to the 28mm Summilux?
I'd be very interested to know as I use the 18mm lens on my Fuji X-H2s - and I am very happy with the results. I am unable to compare because I just don't have the money for a Q3 or the Leica 28mm and a suitable body.
Thank you in advance.
I’m sure a Fuji user has done test vs Q before switching. Look out for those. I’m not sure I’ll have all the lenses to test too.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt. I am happy with what I've got. However, I watch all of your videos and respect your opinions. It would have been interesting to hear your thoughts.
By the way..... Thoughts on the Nikon F3 video. Get the F3/T. That way you'll never forget the coating on the body - Matt. :-)
Matt, my modern digital camera purchases started with the Fuji X-Pro1 because I viewed it as a modern Leica M6 (long story there). The camera was slow in almost all respects. The X-T1 came out, so I bought that body. Later on, I bought a used X-Pro2 as opposed to the recently released X-Pro3. The Pro3's screen was a deal killer for me. What I found with all X-trans sensors is that in certain lighting conditions, the colors are off in a non-correctible way. In harsh lighting, you can have highlight greens that are "too green" and shadows that turn magenta. Also, the phase detection pixels on the sensors in later models can actually show up in the final image. This is most noticeable in backlit settings, which is exactly how you like to shoot from what I've seen. I eventually sold all of my Fuji gear and now have: Leica iiif with Canon 50mm f/1.8 LTM lens, Leica M4-P, Leica SL, and Leica M10. My lenses are a mix of LTM lenses (Canon and Topcor) and Voigtlander (28 Ultron, 35 Ultron, 50 Nokton, 135 f/3.5 LTM Canon). I have one Leica lens now -- an old 90mm Summicron. I also kept my Lensbaby Twist 60 L mount (absolutely love that lens), and a Laowa 15mm f/2 L mount for astro work. My only other lens is a Nikkor 300mm f/2.8 that I mount to my SL. I'm very, very happy with my setup. I kept my X-Pro1 just as a shelf queen, but going back to Fuji X bodies for me would truly be going backwards.
Thanks for the insight, I’m interested to see what I can do with these cameras. Congrats on your Leicas!
So pleased to see so many people mention the Xpro 2. I think it’s the best camera out there in its price range. Amazing for street photography, feels so nice in the hand, viewfinder is great. Was going to sell mine when I bought an M10 but can’t bring myself to part ways.
Yes it got a lot of support for sure!
Through the last 25 years I’ve shot with, leica m6, m4p, m3, r3 but, also Fuji x100f, x-t2, x-pro2, x-t3 and now x-t5. For street, x100 and x-pro2 were great but, recently i shot a lot of street in Istanbul with he x-t5 and all 3 of the new f/1.5 wr lens from Fuji. The iq from this last combination is just stellar.
Thanks for sharing!
One of the major reasons I chose Fuji is their Jpeg quality and the in-camera filters. I have the X-T2 and the X100V.
Thanks Lucy, good to see you. I'll be sure to test with some JPEGS too
You do you mate. Don’t pander to the masses. It’s why I followed you all those years back. Just stay og please.
Thanks! You might know me by now, I love film, old lenses and Leica but I try to provide a service to Leica fans (and those looking so this is just a short experiment to try to help others)
For a somewhat Leica like experience, I prefer the X Pro 2.
Thanks Larry! I'll see what gets recommended the most
I have used Voigt full frame lenses on Fuji cameras but now trying the Voigt X Mount lenses .The 1.2s and 35mm F2 APO. Exif as well. Enjoy.
Thanks Keith noted. I plan to use M mount lenses so I can do comparisons but I'm sure die hard Fuji fans prefer the Voigt X lenses now they are available.
Matt, I suggest that you try a Fujifilm X-E3. I like that I can use my dominant right eye in the electronic viewfinder, and my left eye remains open to view the entire scene. I feel that the images are sharper than my Canon 5D Mark III (Fujifilm doesn't use antialiasing filter) and the Fujifilm's electronic noise looks more like film grain to me than the Canon's RGB dots in the shadows. Additionally, the X-E3 is smaller than the X-Pro series. I hope this information is useful to you. Best regards.
@@GeneRenner-u8w thanks very kind! A few viewers are lending me their Fuji cameras so I’ll see how I get on (and of course make videos to feedback)
Xpro 2 if you are mainly adapting other lenses but if you want to use fuji lenses or the voigtlander lenses for fuji X, I would recommend the xpro3 or XE4 especially for the voigtlander x mount lenses as they won’t communicate with the older cameras.
this is a good point about native X Voigtlander lenses. And sad 😢
Noted thanks!
Xpro 2 with the Voigtlander Snapshot Skopar 25mm LTM. Works great for me!
Nice! I must try that combo
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Tried it on my SL but there was strange purplish vignetting. The crop factor of the Xpro 2 got rid of that.
I have owned Leica M6 and Leica 240.
Now I use Leica SL2 with M lenses + Fuji X100VI + Fuji XT5 (40 MPS) with kit zoom + Fuji GFX 100S with GFX lenses..
For travel the X100VI or XT5 are the easiest to carry, but the sensor is small. I mostly use a Fuji kit zoom whose quality is very average compare to fixed Leica lenses but my Leica 50 mm is already a short tele on the XT. This means that is you want to use XT5 for quality pictures, you mostly have to buy X prime lenses.
If you want to use your M lenses on an hybrid, the best choice stays the SL (not tried on other brands).
General quality of the GFX system is above the SL2, but I have not tried the SL3 yet. But you have to carry the system...
Thanks for sharing!
I owned the xpro 1 and made me fell in love with Fujifilm. Now i have the xpro2 en xt5. I think the xpro2 is the right camera for you too use 😉 love the xpro line!
Thanks!
Fuji X isn't as good as Leica, but you'll find a lot of Leica users came from Fuji. Both share that innate need to have a more 'traditional' experience, both in use (ISO/Shutter dials, aperture rings) and looks.
I've come from a XT5, but if you want the most similar experience, it has to be an X-Pro camera - given it's a rangefinder. Would only be fair to use the latest X-Pro 3 on that front as well!
You'll find the menus are the worst part, but get your setup right and the menus you can largely keep out of!
Thanks Mitch! Yes there seems quite a strong connection between Fuji and Leica for that reason so I felt I needed to cover Fuji for the Fuji-Leica guys! Most recommend the X-Pro2 and I can compare to an old digital Leica for a fair test.
This person kinda nailed it. Fuji's seem like "budget" Leicas to me as well.
Hi Matt, I shoot with the m10 with the 35mm f1.4 close focus Summilux most of the time. And I shoot this Summilux glass on the Fujifilm XT-2 with the Fujifilm “X to M Mount adapter” when I want the autofocus. You’ll be pleasantly surprised with the Summilux rendering with the older Fuji sensors(xt-1 and xt-2). It’s fantastic. And the 35mm Summilux becomes a 50mm due to the APC sensor. It would be excellent if you get this body and adapter for your m Mount lenses, and do videos with your experiences and tips. Hope you do! I like your videos Matt. Thank you.
Thanks! I’m hoping to get an xt2 for 1 video and perhaps another camera too. Stay tuned!
You might have a look at the Fujifilm X-H1. Wonderful “Made in Japan” build quality, very affordable. But if you prefer the inconspicuous Oskar Barnack compact size, try the X-E series. X-E3 or X-E4. Small, but with interchangable lenses. For lenses, you might adapt lenses, but also give the Fujifilm glass a try. Esp. the older lenses have a lot of character. The XF 35mm F1.4, the XF 18mm F2 pancake style wide-angle and the XF 56mm F1.2 (first version) can be found second hand for reasonable prices. And Viltrox recently makes some interesting budget lenses in Fuji mount.
Thanks for the info! I’ll see what I can get
I have the x100 line, currently an F and a V, love em. I have an Xpro2 love it but not used it since I got a Q2, until I had the Xpro 2 sensor modified to shoot infrared, can't put the bugger down now haha
Thanks Paul!
Hi! For your style of photography the X-Pro line would be perfect for the optical viewfinder. BUT if you want to use the EVF, the X-Pro´s is to tiny. Therefore, for a first try I would suggest the X-T2! It is cheap, the last one build in Japan, therefore really relyable, has a huge EVF and the pictures are great. You don´t need the latest film simulations when you do your own presets anyway. It´s a pity, you are no longer part of the EU, I could have sent you mine ;-)
I have the Voigtländer Nokton 35mm V.II which I don´t like shot open on a fullframe-body, but oh boy, on the Fuji it is absolutely fantastic.....
Looking forward to your Fuji-Videos ;-) Good Luck!!!
Thanks Stephan, very kind! Yes I plan to use the 35/1.2 and some people have reached out to help. Stay tuned!
Fuji Xpro2 + TTArtisans 25mm shooter here. That 25mm is like a 35mm. It's manual focus with focus peaking. Shoot that!!!
Nice! I’m not sure how many lenses I’ll get to play either but sounds great.
Hi, Matt! I love your channel. I have bought many lenses with your advice and am happy with them all. I have tried different set ups, but I have settled on the following:
GFX100S with GF30mm ƒ3.5, GF55mm ƒ1.7 (fantastic lens!), GF45-100mm ƒ4, and GF100-200mm ƒ5.6. I also have a Fringer Pro adapter which will allow me to use Canon EF lenses. I also have an adapter which will let me use my Voigtländer lenses on the GFX.
X-T5 with XF30mm ƒ2.8. I also have a Fringer Pro adapter for the X-T5, which will let me use Canon EF lenses on the X-T5. Also have the Fotodiox Pronto adapter so that I can use my Voigtländer lenses on the X-T5. It makes them into autofocus lenses, which is important for me since, with age, I can't see well enough to focus manually anymore. I also have the Fuji Leica M adapter.
Now for the lenses.
Voigtländer 21mm ƒ3.5 Color Skopar LM
Voigtländer 35mm ƒ2 Ultron ASPH LM
Voigtländer 40mm ƒ1.4 Nokton Classic LM (recently sold it)
Voigtländer 50mm ƒ2 Apo Lanthar LM
Voigtländer 90mm ƒ2.8 Apo Skopar LM
Voigtländer 58mm ƒ1.4 Nokton Nikon F mount
Voigtländer 20mm ƒ3.5 Color Skopar with EF mount
Voigtländer 28mm ƒ2.8 Color Skopar with EF mount
Voigtländer 40mm ƒ1.4 Ultron SL II with EF mount
Voigtländer 90mm ƒ3.5 Apo Lanthar with EF mount
I also have a Canon R100 camera that I use for traveling and a few of Canon AF lenses:
24mm ƒ2.8 EF-S STM
40mm ƒ2.8 EF STM
50mm ƒ1.8 EF STM
85mm ƒ1.8 EF USM
The lenses I use most: on the GFX it's the 55mm ƒ1.7. On the X-T5 it's the 35mm ƒ2 Ultron with Pronto adapter.
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Thanks for sharing. I’ll be sure to try the 35 Ultron on the Fuji then!
Looked into the GFX 50R once, rangefinder medium format. It has 35mm crop mode so easy to adapt full frame lenses. Might be silly money not sure tbh but worth a look. And potentially also adapting medium format lenses although I think from what I found the adapters were quite expensive as well...
Thanks Thomas!
i loved the fuji natura black point and shoot with 24mm f1.9! viewfinder was brilliant and super small w/ a nice flash just expensive battery
Thanks Andrew!
Matt, I swapped recently and I'm currently running the Fuji X-Pro 2 and X-H2 (plus an old X-T1 which I think you dabbled with previously) with the newer 18mm F1.4, 33mm F1.4 & 56mm F1.2 - I do use some older legacy glass for the Pro 2 as well - plus, I love the smaller form factor of the F2s - once all my images are chucked into Capture One or Lightroom/Dxo, there is very little difference depending on presets applied to the final image output tbh - take care
Thanks for sharing! Videos to follow
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The X-Pro2/3 and X-T3/4/5 are more like the M series, while the X-H2 and X-S10/20 are more like an SL/SL2. The CL is interesting in that it is small, yet more like the SL in functionality, so you might want to try an X-S10 for an apples and apples APS-C comparison. If your intent is to compare to an M, then an X-Pro2/3 or X-T3/4, or to compare to an SL, then an X-H2 (although a little more pricy). Lots of good options are out there with both Leica and Fuji. As someone else mentioned, the Voigtlander X-Mount lenses are stellar!!
Thanks for the comparisons to relate too!
I've had nothing but good luck with the xpro1. I have an xpro2 but have found their color to be somewhat sterile and cold.
One body/lens combo I love to use...
the xpro1 adapted with a ultron 35mm f2 which comes out to something like 52mm on the crop
Thanks and good lens!
Last year, I knew I really wanted a digital rangefinder, well a Leica rangerfinder, but I don't want to leave Fuji out, so when I was in NYC, I tried out a XPro2. While I really appreciate Fuji contemporary take of digital rangefinder (digital range scale, and pop-up picture-in-picture EVF for critical focus, it just wasn't a pure rangefinder experience that I was looking for; more over, at the end of the day, it is APS-C!
Fuji is tackling the digital market with a very different approach to the big three, and that is also something to commemorate their strategy; target heavily in APS-C market, and then provide a not-so medium large sensor product line. With your CL experience, I think I will suggest a XPro (original), but for a SL experience, I will say a GFX50, but that sort of rule out your lens pairing options.
Thanks! Yes I’ll do CL & M comparisons I think
My vote would be for a Fuji Xt3 but if you want more of a Rangefinder style go for the XPro2.
Ok thanks Greg, noted!
Matt, you have a number of choices but I'd say if you want a camera that somewhat would remind you of an M go with the Fujifilm X-Pro3. It has a switchable OVF/EVF.
I'm an M10-R shoot but I own and still shoot with the X-Pro3 with my adapted Voigtländer lenses. The best choice would be the 28mm f2 Ultron II.
That will give you roughly 43mm in full frame FOV. It's a 26MP camera which is more than enough for what you shoot. The focus peaking is supreme and you have the ability to simulate film on all Fujifilm X and GFX models.
Keep in mind the crop factor in all Fujifilm X cameras is 1.53 not 1.5 like some people think.
If you're looking for something similar in form factor to the SL or S5 go with the X-H2 (40MP) but if you can get a good deal on the X-H2 (24MP) get that one.
These are the kits I would suggest and TTArtisan sells a close focus adapter you can use as well.
Thanks so much. Excellent info and some new stuff I’ve not heard. Yes I use 28/2 on my CL for the same idea. Videos to come!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom sounds good. A few corrections on my part. I should have stated get an X-H1. They’re going for a steal right now. Also, the Voigtlander 21mm f4 is a great match to the X-Pro3 as well. That’s a great little lens. Also, the X-Pro3 is a faux version of the Leica M-D. The screen is completely hidden and only flips down not to the side nor does it tilt. Cuts down on chimping. Looking forward to what you decide to go with.
I’ve read that lenses matter way more than cameras, and I greatly enjoy shooting with Voigtländer lenses on my Sony A7CR, the poor man’s M11-P ? (with IBIS, flip-out screen, and auto-focus when you need it). 😊
Yes for sure lenses can make or break images. Vintage lenses add so much to my portraits and modern Sigma L mount lenses are the polar opposite as so modern and sharp. Maybe I need to do a "Sony project" down the line as that's another brand I've given zero time to.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom At the end of the day, they’re just tools. The Sony A7CR has the same sensor as the M11-P and the Q3, maybe some slightly different micro lenses. The rest is lenses and LightRoom.
Matt,
Check out the X-Pro 3.
My only complaint is the focus aids with manual lenses aren't brilliant .. the focus peaking is ok, but the 'push to zoom' doesn't work with manual lenses .. I've end up using the hybrid viewfinder - it zooms on the focus area. It works, but can be a struggle - I can't seem to get focus 100% of the time on my TTartisan 50 f/0.95 when it's wide open, but that's not the easiest lens to focus.
The native Fuji lenses are great, the camera has a really good - in my hands - ergonomics, and I'm a huge fan of the film simulations, both built in and custom, have a look at FujiX Weekly
Thanks Nick and I will check it out
greetings = 1) xT-3 good price / decent video if needed / nice ergonomics. 2) x Pro2 = rangefinder feel, more boxy. either are great options, but each feel different when in your hand.
I use the x-pro2 as my everyday "beater" camera and an M262 for projects/portraits/fine art
Crop factor needs to be considered when using different full frame lenses
Thank you!
I came from Fuji to Leica. I’m glad I made the switch but I can also see what Fuji offers. There were several reasons for me. One was the sensors. I was never quite happy with the xtrans sensor raws. In contrast I love the files from the Leica cameras I have. The other reason were the lenses. There were some good Fuji lenses but overall I found more character in the lenses I have for my Leica cameras (not only lenses from Leica but also from Zeiss, Voigtlander). There is one lens I would have loved to take with me to the Leica system, the Fuji 35mm 1.4.
Thanks! ..and yes everyone likes that 35/1.4!
As Leica M6/M4-2 user, a 30% street, 30% portrait, 30% landscape/architecture, and 10% wildlife, OVF/right eye and 50/50 film/digital photographer. Also a compact forward, no qualms over APS-C vs FF “debate”, and Fuji GFX/Medium format film shooter. And lastly an Xpro 1-2-3 user (whew that’s alot to list) I highly recommend the Fuji XPro3. Personally the OVF integration and composition outside the viewer with frame lines is superb. More recently used with the Voightlander 35mm f1.2 and the 28mm f2 XF mount lenses, and accompanied by Fuji prime lenses for some auto focus needs , and 1x wide zoom and 1x long zoom, is the ideal setup for myself. If I had to get rid of my film cameras and digital cameras I would hold on to the Pro and a 50mm equivalent and call it a day. If any of your priorities in photography falls in line with this type of photography, it would be a great camera to try, at the very least.
Thanks for sharing!
Hi,
I'm using X-Pro2 w/ fuji M mount adapter. Some M mount lenses are shared with M11-P.
The X-Pro series has unique view finder, film simulation and "easy to set lens property" for Leica M mount lenses using fuji M mount adapter.
Thanks and nice. Yes I’m looking at the XPro2 I think
Having a ton of camera's myself, and a love of film as well, AND also having Fuji's My favorite Fuji combo has been the X-T2 with old Olympus Pen glass. I don't do video with it, I don't do autofocus , I just want a fast camera that gives me pleasing pictures. I've also enjoyed using Pentax Auto-110 lenses on the Fuji APS-c sensors. I've always wanted to try an X-pro, but never committed because I'm always using focus peeking to nail it with the old manual lenses. The X-T2 just has all the controls in the right spots ( where we're used to them) and doesn't have a bunch of extra things I'll never use, and most importantly really delivers please images. All of this being said, I would still much rather have a Type 601 or 262!!! Fuji's just don't seem to be the most durable things out there from my experience.
Thanks! XT2 is popular to MF lenses. Noted!
I've been using Fuji since the X-Pro1. If you're just testing with manual focus lenses and using the EVF, any relatively recent body will do. The X-E series are wonderfully compact with good ergonomics. The X-E3 and X-E4 are modern enough that they would work well. But if you go that route, you're entirely missing the point of the Fuji System - at least in reference to Leica users. If you want to see where Fuji excels, get an X-Pro2 or X-Pro3 and one of the "Fujicrons". The XF 35mm f2 is a good start (or the XC 35mm f2 - It's optically identical, but built with a plastic body for an entry-level price point). If you really want to fall in love, though, get the original XF 35mm f1.4. You trade a bit of sharpness wide open, but gain a *gorgeous* rendering and a "Leica Glow" versus the XF 35mm f2's more clinical rendering. When using an X-Pro camera with it's OVF and AF lenses, you get a very Leica M-like experience except the camera is far more responsive and faster to use. The OVF is accurate and can have full information if you want it. If you need absolute composition accuracy or want to use wider angle lenses, you can instantly switch to a the EVF (no awkward external EVF needed). I still use my Ms when I specifically want the M experience or when I'm shooting film Ms and want a digital camera that shares the lenses. But when I going purely for results, I grab the Fujis - no contest.
Thanks for lens info esp. everyone says the 35/1.4. Stay tuned!
Yes the 35mm f1.4 is magical!!!!!
Lumix Leica is my fav brand, I have the 15mm (30mm equiv) & 25mm (50 equiv) Summilux. The 25mm hardly ever leaves my Oly M10 mk 1...
Nice, yes I have some M43 including the 15/1.7. See video vs. Leica Q!
Go affordable and beautiful : the x-t1 + adapter for your m-mount glass. I love mine with the voigtlander 40mm 1.4.
Thanks and great lens!
I found me leaning more and more towards fujifilm system. I have Xt1, Xe4 and Xt5. Happy to pair them with a few cron like lenses including: fujinon 23 f2, 35 f2 and Viogtlander 27 f2. Still use my Leicas from time to time but definitely taking out fujis more.
Thanks James, interesting
Xpro3 great fun, XT5 great spec. All fuji primes are pretty good. I use my M11P for the experience and to slow down rather than a leap in image quality.
Thanks! Someone has offered me an xpro3 so hopefully video to come!
X-Pro2 would by my recommendation. The perfect balance of price, performance and ergonomics. That's based on my personal experience with over a dozen of their X-series cameras. The X-Pro3 is also very nice, but the X-Pro2's extra buttons make it easier to customize. Avoid the X-Pro1 and X-T1 (or similar X-Trans 1/2 models)... although nice cameras, they're just not up to par with the X-Trans III and above sensors. The only negative about the X-Pro2 would be its dated AF, but that won't be relevant for adapted lenses. The EVF is showing its age, too.
Thanks for info 🙏🏻
I sold all my Nikon gear when they started making the X-pro. Never go back
Interesting thanks! Videos to come!
I can't really speak for Leica, as so far I have managed to duck buying one;-) For Fuji X, I personally like the X Pro models, go for v2 or v3 unless you are happy to take a really slow camera, which is the pro 1, otherwise they all have their following. Reasons are build quality and the viewfinder experience mainly, Corner viewfinders are nice and the ability to flick between EVF and OVF (which throws crop lines) is nice for reportage, see around your subject etc. They have all the stuff you need most of the time including dual card slots. No IBIS yet, but its not much of an issue, as X Trans sensor holds up pretty well in the low light. It is to be fair a more jpeg centric camera, as the film sims are jpeg only (you can make your own of course), but I'm mostly happy with those results and don't usually worry about processing raw on the X Pro. You can adapt M mount lenses to it and they work, but native X mount lenses seem to suit the camera better in most cases (Voigtlander 27mm F2 works well). The bodies are quite a bit lighter than the Leica M, but would be a bit heavier than your CL. I quite like the CL also, but don't want to pay for the expensive glass;-)
Thanks Richard! Stay tuned for my results
I have the X-Pro2 and while the VM Nokton Classic f1.4 sc v2 is the most used lens on it nowadays, I also use the Summicron 50mm V5, Rokkor M 90F4 (made by Leitz) and the Nokton Classic 40mm f1.4. I also prefer the Voigtländer made Fujifilm M/XF adapter as it allows you to close focus. This is helpful.
While the X-Pro3 may be newer, I'd go with the X-Pro2. It honestly has a better OVF in terms of wider frame lines if you wany to use any native XF glass like a 16mm, and you don't have to worry about the rear LCD screen ribbon or gimmicky secondary screen breaking.
Thanks and great stuff. Yes I plan to try to test this vs Leica M with same lenses.
I use Fuji X for all my professional work since 2018 (University photographer) and personal work since 2013. If it was bad, I will use something else! I also use Leica M240 and had used film Leica's long time ago. If you go for the X-Pro serie, you will be disapointed by the finder. In my opinion, the X-Pro optical viewfinder is useless with a manual lens. And you will always compare the X-Pro to a Leica M...which is not except for the form factor. For a bargain Fuji X to use with your Voigtlander lenses, I will look for an X-H1. I now work mostly with an X-H2s and an X-H2 but still have and use two X-H1. With manual focusing lenses, the X-H1 is almost as good as the newest bodies for a fraction of the cost. X-H1 is, by far, the most underrated Fuji X body. Used mine two for 5 years nearly as working tools for photo and video and never had a single problem or reparation. I even dropped one in the water and been able to resurrected it by letting it in rice for a couple days and finish drying it with an hair dryer! See for yourself...
Thanks! I’ll try to compare image quality not just experience to make it fair.
Well in the digital realm of things the camera body does play a big role now. The sensor. So besides playing the glass you like now you have to choose the sensor. Like buying a Sony to bring your Nikkor or Voigtlander glass over.
Thanks and yes. My goal is to make presets to try to make Fuji sensor RAW look good / like my usual style
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom You do amazing stuff. I’m certain you’ll make whatever medium you choose look brilliant. (: a touch of your creativity styles. But up yourself mate.
Good to get a note, good idea for a future test. Take care and cheers.
Thanks Sandy!
Mr. Leica - love your channel and website - look forward to your Fuji evaluations. For a few years I’ve been shooting X-T30 with LTM lenses - I prefer mechanical manual focus, but do have a few Fuji lenses to shoot autofocus sports and other fast motion. First for a fair comparison you need to edit Fuji Raw in Capture One, it renders x-Tran sensor data much better than Lightroom. I have a number of Canon and Voigtlander lenses. My favorites are Canon 50mm 1.4 LTM and CV Color Skopar 25mm f4and 35mm f2.5. On the wider CVs I get color shift - 12mm f5.6 and 21mm f4 - so I only shoot digital B&W with the Fuji. I also have Canon 100m f3.5and 135mm f3.5 which are fun when I want lots of compression. I splurged on the Fuji FX-LM adapter which gives you more access to tweak and save custom setting for up to 5 lenses. I recently returned to analog shooting, developing HP5+ at home, digitizing with the X-T30, an old Pentax M42 bellows, and Nikon 75mm enlarger lens - still learning and perfecting my analog workflow - I have a growing collection of LTM cameras… a Bessa L for the CV 12 , a Canon P for the CV 35, and I recently picked up a Barnack iiic with a Summitar 50mm. My dad had a iiif so I’ve always wanted a Barnack… now I’m eyeing a ic for my wide angle lens. -Mark
Thanks Mark for the info and nice cameras. I’ll see what I can do!
Hi Matt more of an analog photographer.But uses Fuji why not a XE4 small with rangefinder feeling.Uses their film settings.I am sure you can find better settings 😊
Thanks for the info! You know I'm a full analogue guy at heart but enjoy testing cameras so I thought I'd offer to do this to provide a service for Fuji shooters that care about my opinion.
I use Fuji XH1 with Lots of vintage lenses, I only own one Fuji digital lens 16mm - 80mm. I use lots of Leica lenses from 1930s onwards. Leica 135mm 90mm, 50mm. The L39 and M39 work well including infinity so no problem setting up. I have all Pentacon M42 lenses and many of the Russian lenses including MIR 37mm, Industar 50mm (many varieties)and your FED 50mm collapsible and 50mm Canon Serenar also Jupiter 8 M42. One inportant thing is some of the adapters do not fit Fuji cameras well although they claim to. The adapters I use for all my lenses is 'K&F Concept' this adapter fits really well with no issues. I'm also using C mount cine lenses for micro work. So you have plenty of options, Good Luck Matt. remember 50mm becomes 75mm.
Thanks! ..and about the adapters
If you're not printing and are only shooting for screens, I'm not sure it matters too much. YMMV, but unless we're all looking at the same screen calibrated exactly alike, we just have to trust what you're seeing even if we don't see it. I guess it's all subjective really. Loved the XE1 when I had it years ago. I adapted an old Summitar (1950) and it was lovely on the XE1. Just adapted it to my GFX 50SII. It's also lovely with a tiny bit of vignetting. Stopped down, it's what you'd expect from a classic 50mm f2 that's nearly 75 years old. ---lol--rereading this, I sound like a cranky old guy tired of review/comparison vids. I hope that's not the case because I rather enjoy seeing what folks are using and gaining some inspiration.
Thanks!
You have explored the route of Sony e-mount?
No I’ve never considered Sony. Perhaps a project for 2025 if the Fuji experiment is well received
I actually got an adapter to use M mount lenses on my Fuji GFX 50R. Some lenses almost cover the (beautiful) sensor, so you won't have to crop much.
Thanks, I have heard this. Perhaps a future project!
I would give the Xpro 1 a try. A lot of people really enjoy that sensor.
Thanks Greg!
Hi Matt, fujifilm X100s, X100vi, X-T3, and XF lenses. Leica IIIG, M2, M3, M6, M9, M11, SL2. And lots of Leica Lenses. And I have lots of other brands of camera as well. Like your videos 🎉
Great lineup and thanks!
X-T30 II user here. I've coupled with 7Artisans 25mm F/1.8 and Fuji XF 35mm f/2. It's the perfect daily driver. I was planning to buy M11 but I changed the direction to Analog M. Now I'm looking for a Leica M-P. So, This little monster is better than many other Fuji cameras in terms of price/performance, especially older X-Pro and X-E models.
The new X-T30II price is the same as 8 years old x-pro2. Besides that, Fuji's optical viewfinder/range finder totally useless. (no focus patch etc.) You're already experiencing real range finder on M film or digital bodies. Before the X-T30II, I had an X-T2 and sold it 2 years ago. X-Pro2, X-E3, and X-T2 uses the same XTrans III sensor. Adobe Camera Raw (LR and PS) isn't good for rendering XTransIII Fuji Raw files. It renders weirdly and if you give some sharpness or increase the texture, you'll see the worm effect. Another downside is if you plan to use some film recipes from the Fujixweekly or your own, some newer parameters are not supported on XTrans-III. Only the downside of the X-T30II, it does not have any kind of IPX rating.
If the goal is getting a camera as small as possible but a new(relatively) sensor clear viewfinder, and small footprint, go with the X-T30II. If size not important and you don't plan to use tiny Leica lenses with the camera (because of heavy vignette), you can go with GFX-50R. Good luck.
By the way, Not preset but I have a Leica Look recipe for fuji, if you want I can share with you :)
Thanks! I will make my usual preset pack to try to make Fuji images look to my taste. It’ll be the Matt look not the Fuji or Leica look.
Hi Matt
I once toyed with the idea of buying a Fuji but decided to stay with my Leica's and the Sony, already had APSC but wanted full frame.
Lg Anderl
Thanks!
The X100 in whatever version is a wonderful little camera. It can be a rangefinder or an SLR at the flick of a switch. No interchangeable lenses, though. The X-Pro3 is a dandy Leica-like camera. (Press the focus button and the focusing patch border turns green. It's pretty much the same as using the rangefinder.) I basically use mine when I am shooting in an environment that I don't want to expose the Leicas to, or if I need autofocus or a fast motor. And the results are just fine. I never find myself saying, "oh, I really wish I had shot that with a Leica." Just doesn't happen. Yes, I like the Leicas more, or for whatever reason. HOWEVER, to get the rangefinder-ness, you have to use a Fuji autofocus lens. With an adapted lens, it's just another SLR with an adapted lens.
I would go for a X-Pro 2. Had one before my Leica. Old processor with the best rendering for a nice price :)
Thanks! Yes I’m looking at those
X-Pro3
Thanks!
I used to shoot an X-Pro 3 adapted with Leica Glass. Was a good combination but I opted to go all in for Leica instead. The XPro3 would suit your style I think.
Thanks Gary! I can already visualise a title of a future video. Fuji, the first step to buying a Leica :)
I guess the body doesn't matter if the sensor is the same, but for me the X-Pro2 works best as my digital (i.e. X-trans 3 sensor). Some say it's preferable to the X-Pro3 but I've not used it so couldn't confirm 1 way or the other.
Thanks! I’ll see what I can get
I owned many different cameras , Fuji , canon , nikon and Panasonic… I’m Leica shooter owned most of Leica From film to digital . If I choose other camera then Panasonic will be my choice of FF L mount camera . My prefer cameras today are my Leica cameras , Panasonic and hasselblad X2D .
Thanks! X2D are nice
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom x2D haselblad is a fantastic camera .
The X-T2 is the best value for Fuji right now.
Thanks Dan, someone is lending me one so stay tuned!
Good thing about fujis you can adapt any lenses to fit they don't cost the earth i recommend a second hand xt4 does everything and feels quality add a 23mm f2 get an adaptor for your m bayonet lenses lovely jubbly go on matt wallow in that fujiness
Thanks Kevin! Stay tuned
Have a look at the GFX 50R. It's a rangerfinder style medium format camera. I see very cheap prices and people adapting leica lenses to it for amazing results. also It might give Fuji the best fighting chance against the Full Frame Leicas. It might also be a similar size and weight to a SL. :)
Thanks! Maybe I can as a Fuji video project.
Sort of the _whole_ point of Fuji X cameras are the JPEG film simulations and getting great images straight out of the camera. You know, like a _film_ camera where you use different types of film, send in the roll for processing and get a bunch of nice prints back. Old school satisfaction.
If you're a RAW shooter and futz around constantly in post with all those expensive subscription-based software apps, pretty much _any_ RAW capable camera will be fine for that. Leica, Nikon, Sony, Canon - they all do that with pretty much the same results in the end. Since that's the point - endlessly dicking around with LR with RAW files until you get an image that looks like any other pixel-peeped to death image.
And that's not really the point of a Fujifilm X camera.
Nice, it’s be an experiment for sure. I’ve not shot JPEG for over a decade and prefer the as fast RAW+preset done approach. I’ll try to give them a fair review and thanks for pointing it out.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
And if you really want to get the best out of a Fujifilm X camera you'll go down the rabbit hole of film recipes. This is a step beyond just selecting a different film simulation preset.
There are many websites that have dozens of film recipes to try with many sample images.
Maybe the best place to start for film recipes is Fujifilm X Weekly. Ritchie is sort of the guru for Fuji film recipes.
And yes, you _always_ want to shoot RAW + JPEG with a Fujifilm X camera. That way you can always change the film recipe later either right in the camera or by attaching the camera to a computer and using the free Fujifilm X Raw Studio software to change the film recipe to whatever you want later on.
Hi Matt, Interesting experiment. I've used X-Pro2 and X-Pro3 as well as XT4 and several 100X, plus Q2,M10,M10M, M10-R, NikonZF so am very much in this area. My favourite interchangeable lens Fuji was definitely the X-Pro2 which I've owned twice and was definitely a similar experience to the Leica M experience.
X-pro1 if you want the best 16mp's you can get from Fuji, with this more "analogic" look and if you don't care about the general speed of the camera. X-pro3 if you really need the mp's and a better autofocus..and more color presets. The x-e serie is also worth a look, smaller bodies, but you loose the ovf.
Thanks for info!
X-Pro 2 is awesome but if you want best quality GFX 100 with the 80mm f/1.7
Nice!
Fujifilm X series is not as good in image quality as Leica. I own the M11M and no X series camera can come close. However, the GFX100 II is epic. Just as good as my Leica… and more reliable. I also own the X100VI… it is no Leica, but it is fun to shoot with. Of the three, the Leica would have been my favorite, save for reliability. My current favorite overall is the Sony A9III. It’s an awesome camera for both photo and video… probably even more so for video.
If you want a Fujifilm and you have the pocket, the GFX100 II is the king. Add the EVF angle adapter and you achieve a next level shooting experience. Granted it’s on the larger size, but it’s a lovely camera.
Thanks for heads up. I’ll see what I can do!
A lot of Leica owners now were fuji owners before. I owned the xt2 and the xpro3. But the thing is, I look at my fuji files now and they really can’t compare to the files from the M10R. So try one of their newer 40MP cameras. Maybe the files are better. But also the lenses play a big part. A lot of fuji lenses are too corrected and they give you a very digital looking photo (not sure how else to explain it). So better adapt your lenses to it. The older fuji lenses like the 35f1.4 give you a nice look. Maybe the best fuji buy would be the XT50. If you want to go backwards then you can get the xt2 or xpro2. But condition is everything and those are the older sensors. Don’t expect them to be responsive and fast. If you could find an xt1 maybe would be an interesting one. With a vintage lens. Those were the old 16mp sensors. They had a different look. If you want the best general used fuji I would get an XT3 or xpro2 or xt2. If you can find them in good condition. You could try the xpro3. Maybe that’s easier to find.
Thanks so much for the info!
For my professional work I’m using Hasselblad and Leica SL2/3. For personal work, I prefer someting more compact. In 2011 I started using an X100, next to my M7 and M9 (back then). In 2012, the X-Pro1 draw my attention as a potential M with AF. However, the AF was woeful and the OVF was no match for the M.
Nevertheless, I started using Fujifilm cameras on the side. The whole range of X100x and X-Prox followed, and they kept getting better, until the X-Pro3. To me, Fujifilm made a few critical mistakes with that camera. Even to date, I think the X-Pro2 came closest to a great camera. Other candidates for me are the X100V, the X-T5 (to some degree) and the X-E4. Every one of them seems to be designed with a user in mind.
The other X cameras are a mixed bag to me, which marketeers nowadays call: hybrids. The result is that unused menu options, switches, icons and modes clutter the UX, making it into a swiss knife. Do everything, but excel in nothing. Fuji really needs to completely revise the menu structure and operation modes, if they want to keep offering hybrids. It can be done nicely. Just look at Lumix. Yet, I long for an X-Pro4 that is a proper photographers camera.
As far as lenses, Fuji offers some great ones like the 23 and 33 f1.4 WR lenses. The small 35 and 50 f2, the 80 and 90 are very good as well. Yet, there are quite a few mediocre ones too, like most of their zoom lenses (except for the 10-24). They’re OK, but nothing special.
The whole GFX line never appealed to me. Too big and heavy for personal work and for professional work, I prefer the X2D (nowadays) by miles.
Today, I don’t have a Fujifilm camera anymore. For personal work I use a Q2, an M11-P (and M7 for film) and occasionally an OM1 for macro. Started my journey in 1974 with an OM1, and now ‘ending’ with an OM1. Come to think of it…actually Olympus is my real love.
Thanks! Great info. All the guys that own Hassy & Leica prefer their SL2 etc over the X2D etc. it’s interesting
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I prefer the X2D in the studio, but the SL2/3 on location. Technical IQ of the Hasselblad is unsurpassed imo. Esp. the color science is fantastic.
@@jacobh5817 thanks
X Pro 2. Here’s why:
digital rangefinder patch w/OVF is a fun feature and a Leica person should try it and give thoughts.
it’s within the ‘cheaper’ range
it’s more approachable than the Pro 3, which is specialized with its screen ( maybe comparable more to a Leica MD) Also, the pro 3 has a known flex cable issue: a tough sell long term
X Pro still has a EVF
X Pro looks like an X100V which is mega hyped and probably better for the RUclips algorithm
and because I want to know how close I can get to the Leica experience with one of those, and you’re the man for the job 👍🏼
Thanks and ha yes that’s the goal. Serve loyal Leica-Fuji fans with a typical Matt testing style video!
I've found the X-T4 (24 MP, fully mirrorless) to be extremely effective, but any of the X-Pro cameras with a manual focus or focus clutch lens will be the closest to the Leica experience. I switched from Fuji to Leica digital because it wasn't economical having a bunch of lenses only for my digital camera and a bunch of LTM lenses that couldn't be correctly adapted due to the crop factor. Fuji cameras with Fuji glass is a killer combo if you're willing to stay in their system. Fuji X Weekly has some great in-camera film presets that I'd recommend using to get a more familiar color curve out of the pictures.
One thing to be careful about is that Fuji cameras absolutely do not retain their value like Leica cameras do, so just make sure you like whatever you're about to buy, because selling it won't be as easy.
Thanks Ian, a kind viewer has reached out offering to lean me his camera so that will really help/ save buying
The X-T4 is a fail for photography because of the flippy screen. ;-)
@@Mamo878 I prefer it because I don't like to rely on rear LCDs over my viewfinder, so I just kept it closed whenever I'm not adjusting menu settings. I've found that being able to compose blind with the Leicas is a very valuable skill if done correctly, since it's not like I can tilt a screen on any of my film cameras.
I would get Fuji medium format but not the APSC cameras. Personal preference.
Maybe for a future video project, thanks!
I have fujifilm xt4 it’s a great all around hybrid for photos and videos you can throw all kind of glass on it . Welcome to the Fuji world
Thanks! Stay tuned. Videos to follow
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom your welcome I definitely will keep up the work
If I were starting from scratch today, I'd very probably invest in the Fuji APS-C system. Alas, I'm so heavily invested in Nikon since 1991 that I'm not about to switch, losing money and having to learn a new system.
Thanks Chris!
X-Pro2 is king! That sensor is my favorite for sooc camera jpegs for sure.
It’s had lots of nice comments!
I've been using a Fuji X-E3 lately and it's travels well. I can fit the camera and 5 lenses in one of those fancy British bags. Fuji lenses are very good. I've gotten some great shots using that kit. No. It's not Leica but then again I got the camera and all the lenses for $1800. You can't go wrong with Fuji. Crop sensor but it's OK. I look forward to seeing the results of your experiment. I say yes. You have taken great photos with cheap cameras so I think Fuji would bridge the gap. And it's not Sony, which should make you happy.
Thanks Pete!
The X-Pro2 is a very fine camera but the hybrid viewfinder pointless if you intend to use it with adapted MF lenses. Better off with its brother, the X-T2, which has a higher magnification EVF for focussing. It's a lot cheaper too and has the same sensor and processor.
Interesting yes being able to see accurately is a big one for me. Noted thanks!
For me, it’s just Fuji sensors/color science. Got hooked in the early 2000s by an old point-and-shoot and have been sorely missing the colors since moving to Canon, Sony and Nikon. Canon’s been my favorite second, but I still miss the Fuji sensor.
Thanks, yes Fuji definitely seem to have a look
Get x-pro 2 . Best bang and build for buck or XH-1 if you want dslr style
Noted thanks!
I have both. I like both.
Thanks! Good to hear
Never used Fuji as I invested in Sony, Nex7 was my first one. My only Leica is the Q2. Still not sure if I made the right choice with the Sony , especially as I love the Fuji colours and love Enorma of which I have a LUT and if I was in the market for a a Fuji, I would go for the XPro 1/2 or 3. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Video to follow
I think the best camera for the money in the fuji System is the Fuji XS-20. Its quite new, and really nice. Small and light and a very very good hybrid. A bit like your Lumix S5. But it is very new so is still goging to be expesive. But it is by far the most of the newest fuji tech for your money. an good alternative would be an used XT4 mayby. But i think the XS-20 fits you better.
The biggest issue with used Fuji cameras right now is the prices are through the roof compared to what they used to be. I got my xpro2 4 years ago for £500 and now they can go for as much as £850.
I exclusively use leica M lenses on my xpro2 and they are a breeze to focus and the quality is fantastic.
Yes I just assumed Fuji were cheap cameras ..thankfully I’m getting a loaner from a viewer.