Canon has heard your pleas and opened the mount, yet there's still a big f*** you for you. Because they only allow Sigma and Tamron to build APS-C lenses. What is your biggest 'f*** you' moment that a manufacturer has brought?
The Fuji's 6.0 autofocus tracking update for X-H2 and X-H2s is the biggest f*** you moment. It just imagines where it should focus, but focuses on completely another point.
@@snappy8k My biggest f*** you moment is buying fujifilm. Lovely images... when they are in focus. Especially, as @iarosnaps says, with the 6.0... this is my last time, for sure, buying fuji. 6 years waiting for an autofocus that can compete with sony/canon. No way...
Hmm, it was the Canon R, I had the camera only for a week, never again a Canon R. Interestingly, howevere, TS17mmF4 is one of my favorite lenses on my Sony cameras. This is a nice example, that if you are in architecture photography, Fujifilm is not even in the arena. Another example, PZ28135F4OSS lens nothing even remotely similar in Fuji world. Actually the E-mount is what made Sony so brilliantly versatile. Another favorite lens of mine is the Canon 100-400L push-pull with a Metabones IV adapter, works brilliantly on any Sony cameras on A7III or above.
The algorithm brought me to you for Fujifilm content, but your presentation style and sense of humor kept me around. Can't wait to see what content you create in this new venture.
Most honest and true statement ever made.. The Fuji cult made me feel so guilty about buying a FF Sony… but sorry, once you start getting paid to shoot, reliability becomes a HUGE factor and my Fuji XT5 has disappointed me too often on missing AF on what would have been the best shot. That’s fine for me, but my client won’t care about what brand I used. They just need the shot.
I would have no shame switching to Sony. Sony cameras are amazing and they are always at the cutting edge of technology. You have to use the best tool for your work and there is simply no room for brand loyalty. I just can't understand why there are so many brand loyal people out there, I find it crippling to be brand loyoal. I have a Fuji X-T5 and a Sony A7RV and love them both for there own strengths but I would never consider taking the Fuji to a fast pace moving job. Sony is simply leaps and bounds ahead of Fuji when it comes to the AF system, as you have just proven on your video. I am a photographer for a Montessori school, grades K-8 and I can tell you that as fast as kids move and even shooting thier sports events I couldn't imagine using anything else but Sony. Keep in mind that in your video you were doing one of the easiest streight line walking into camera AF test you can do and the Fuji simply failed. Also not sure if you know but the Sony A7IV doesn't even have Sony's new AI Auto Focus in it. I have the A7RV and the AI AF is just mind blowing. One last thing for those that are going to claim that Sony's colors are not good,... you just haven't tried a Sony in years. Their new color science is fantastic and I have compared it to even Leica color that is highly aclaimed. Brand Loyalty is a trait that just works against you!
I fully agree with you on that. I now also have an A7RV and have already done several family shootings with it. There's no chance that the X-T5 could reliably track a fast-running child even at short distances. The build quality of the A7RV is also on another level. I have to admit that Sony's colors are better than their reputation. When shooting raw, it's usually irrelevant anyway, but I've also created a Sony 'recipe' that I really like even in JPG.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel That is awesome! The A7RV is great camera and very suited for many profesional photography and video jobs. I would love to know your Sony recipe!
Once you start spending on a system, that's pretty much it. You have to be very wealthy to be able to talk like that, whether you realize it or not. Lens mounts are very specific and flash mounts too. So there is no need to be rude to anyone, some people will always have a hard time admitting they made the wrong choice. Also, not everybody enjoys a system for the same reasons. There are many reasons to enjoy a manufacturer's product(s), or to dislike it (them).
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel found anything to get more of that organic feel with the Sony? I usually set my clarity and texture to around -15 and find that helps along with some grain. But have been thinking about trying a low strength diffusion filter.
For my compact portable camera setup, I just switched to a Sony a7cii with the 40mm f/2.5 (I now have a few other primes). The full size sensor alone is a good reason to switch imo. I still love my GFX setup even with all its flaws…
Oh, the GFX is a completely different, much slower class in terms of speed. :D But the GFX series is designed for entirely different things. The A7C II is really great; I also bought the 40mm because it's so nice and compact.
I really enjoyed my X-T4 and was waiting for the new model to upgrade. I was disappointed upon realizing that the X-T 5 and the X-H2 both had features that I wanted. So, I switched to Sony, in large part because of the AF. At my age, I have shaky hands and failing eyesight. The A7RV has made my life more enjoyable. Very expensive but worth every penny. I'm not about to switch to anything else any time soon. No more money left. LOL But those Fuji camera make photography so much fun with the analog dials.
Meanwhile, I've also switched to an A7RV, and my wife is using the A7IV. I must say that not having to constantly wonder if the focus was accurate or not makes the day so much easier. You can fully concentrate on the people you're photographing. It was really expensive, as you said, but it has definitely been worth every penny.
Totally agree. I began with a NEX6 and went to an a6000. Then I bought an a6400 and realized Sony was not only on the way to solving the terrible menu layout everybody complained about but the auto focus was getting better. Then they produced the compact full frame idea with a body that was just a few milimetres more than the APS-C ones and that started my interest but the menus were still somewhat clunky and the same as on the a6400. When they finally produced the a7CII and a7CR I part exchanged both the a6000 and the a6400 with lenses and got the a7CR with a 24mm 2.8G, the Zeiss 35mm f2.8, 50mm 2.5G and Sigma 90mm 2.8. The larger sensor size is wonderful for recomposing if and when necessary and it’s range is perfect for all conditions. I’ve even shot candids in jpeg at 32000 ISO and am very pleased; it’s the first time I’ve ever been satisfied with anything above what I would have considered an extreme at 6400 ISO with APS-C and I shoot RAW almost all the time. I know everyone agrees about Fujifilm’s jpeg being so good but I recommend trying this Sony, the colours straight out of camera are certainly better than they ever were too. One happy camper 😀
i've had fuji's since the xt1. just changed to the A7IV for exactly the same reason. love shooting with fuji, but for weddings, the AF is just not enough. I opted to stay with my xt4 with a wide angle, as focus is not so critical and as a backup camera. 95% of my work will come out of the A7IV this year. It's just at another level.
eah, also from the need to make sure the autofocus is accurate, you end up taking more pictures. With the A7IV, this question doesn't arise anymore. But as you say, the X-T4 is still a good backup camera. 👌
I used to own an A9 for a year after it was released and available: 20 frames per second all in focus on an air show photographing fast flying planes above the city. Brutal performance, no other manufacturers were able to come even close. And you are talking only about A7IV in your great viodeo, not even A9 territory. Fujifilm cameras are toys for hobby photographers. This was the reason I sold my A9, I am not a professional any more, I don't need an A9. Honestly, I still regret that decision. Anyhow, looking forward to having the X-T50 in my hands, I am a "full time hobby photographer", Fuji is perfect to me.
I love fuji, but i need something really reliable professionally for my family documentary work. I'm selling my XT5, getting a sony A7IV (thanks to a 400€ discount!), and getting an Xpro3 for pure enjoyment and street photography. Best of both world for pro and personal work :)
@@FeRoOOo71 if I use a brush to paint my room, there’s nothing artsy about the brush. If I use the same brush to paint a painting, then there is something artsy about the brush.
i would make another distribution... Fuji for dumpster and Sony for everything else. Hope 7.0 solves, at least a bit, the XH2s AF problem... if not, goodbye Fuji, Hello Sony
Not really, if your travel is for ultimate performance on image quality both resolution and low light noise performance. No APS-C cameras can catch up FF. If your travel is just for fun, yeah OK, you can even use a Nikon F2.
I think Fuji autofocus is getting worse. I have this exact problem a lot while trying to photograph dogs running towards me. More than half out of focus. The worst part is the viewfinder shows the green box around the subject for all of them but the images are out of focus. I was getting better results with my XT3.
I’d like to know more. Which camera are you using? I have just bought the XT5 and I will be using it in precisely the same way. Shooting pics of my very active dog. I hoped the latest firmware update would resolve the auto focus issues that I have seen Fuji users talking about. Have you updated yours and if so are you still getting the same problem?
@@marin313 It’s the XT5 I’m using and it was on the latest firmware. I was also using animal subject detection and I did adjust the Af-c custom settings slightly to see if it made a difference but it didn’t. I would get 3 or 4 images in focus and then 4 or 5 out of focus the closer the dog got to me so just a 50% keep rate. I think it might work better without using subject detection and just using zone focusing so will test that out next. I have tried this on the 16-55 and 100-400 and both had similar results. I’m renting a 50-140 next week so will see how that gets on. The performance should be a lot better than it is at the moment so hopefully future firmware updates help but I believe they have made it worse so far. Love everything else about this camera except the autofocus for anything fast moving.
@@DFitzell Best of luck. As I was in a 14 no quibble return period for my XT5 I decided to take it back. Very disappointed. I like the look and feel of the XT5 and I really wanted it to work. But after giving it a lot of thought and after a long conversation with the camera store, who told me they don’t think Fuji can significantly improve the autofocus through future firmware updates , That will only come with a new sensor on future modes. So, I felt I had no choice but to reject it for now. Such a shame. I have the Sony and I will give it another go even though it doesn’t make my heart sing. But it is reliable and its autofocus system works every time. Fuji has to get to the same point if it wants to survive.
Subject tracking modes don’t care what AF-C settings you use. I recommend playing with single point boxes/AF-C modes and subject tracking off to see which modes work best. Mode 2 and mode 4 are my go-tos these days for good hit rates of crazy kids. There is also things like setting focus traps and bursting, since some animals just run back and forth repeatedly. I’d try this irrespective of what camera brand I’d purchased. It works better if you can resist shooting wide open exclusively, as RUclipsrs seem to promote but pros rarely do.
I switched from XT4 to A7IV. Not regretting it. Ergos better on Fuji for sure and so is the evf but I was missing adapting lenses and keeping the original focal length, plus more third party lenses at that time and autofocus leagues better. Dunno about the XT5 though. Forgot to mention battery life, no more anxiety about that 😅
Wow, you're pretty fast at writing comments :D Yeah, the autofocus annoyed me the most, and the direct comparison is in the last third of the video. Being able to adapt lenses with the original focal length is also a good bonus. :D
Thank you for this! If i originally had a canon r50 and never had issues with af. I switched to xt5 after a month because i wanted the film sims for faster uploads (jpegs only shooting) but noticed a lot of shots were out of focus, around 25%. I upgraded to the xh2s because i needed a flip out screen for yt talking head videos and vlogging and was told that it had the best auto focus in all fuji apsc. the hit rate improved slightly - now just down to 10% out of focus but still 10% is huge for professional use. If had only known - i should have upgrade to the sony a7iv instead of the xh2s :(
Oh man, so you've been through the same thing as me. Surprising that you've got a better hit rate with the X-H2 since it's almost the same device as the X-T5. Seems like the sensor has more influence than I thought. But if you mostly shoot videos, I can also suggest trying out the Panasonic S5II. Definitely better autofocus than the Fujis but more video-centric.
Totally agree…. using X-H2s, H2s und XS20 for wedding videography. For video the autofocus is even worse… and the bad thing, it gets even more worse with every firmware update. When they donˋt get it fixed quickly I am also switching, even I am loving the picture quality and colors…
This is 100% correct and I can confirm similar findings with my two XH2S's with a variety of lenses including LM glass. The AF.C does ok from far to mid ground but from mid to near the AF.C just completely falls apart with extremely poor hit rates. Trying every possible workaround including Focus Release and 40fps won't help you here, it just simply does a bad job on the Z axis for closer subjects. At this point in time, it is acceptable to leave Fujifilm based around specific AF requirements. There's not else much to complain about, but it is a real damn shame that they cannot improve it (and even worse they have crippled the AF performance with their Kaizen approach :S).
Yeah, it's really a shame because I was a Fujifilm user for years and really liked their film simulation approach. However, I can't afford any mistakes, and unfortunately, the current generation still makes too many errors. Even professional Fujifilm wedding photographers avoid the AF-C mode as much as they can. I've also heard from various comments here that the latest update has even made the camera worse... So, I'm glad I switched in time before the performance deteriorated even further. 😅
Early 2020 I decided to start my photography world all over again, moving away from Canon, so I always dreamt of having a Fuji camera and I bought the XT3 , but because I also always wished having a full-frame camera too, after some thoughts I went for the Sony 7AIII (at the time it seemed the best overall choice for a full-frame camera/brand). In 2022 I also added the XT4 to my list, because at the time I still believed that I was a Fujifilm fanboy first, and Sony would be my "back-up" system. Well, the fact that the XT3 and Sony came out in 2018, the XT4 even in 2020, but that today my Sony has worked it's way up, and turned out to be still as relevant as in it's first year, the Fujifilm cameras not so much after all. First reason, the choice and quality of the lenses, I believed I would be better and cheaper off with APS-C lenses VS Sony Full-Frame lenses. Wrong, the choice and quality of the lenses for my Sony camera proved to be much superior. It wasn't planned to turn out like this, Fuji was supposed to be my go-to gear, but the first trip I did with both Fuji and Sony, I was completely sold to my Sony system and I won't change that perception. I will continue to use Fujifilm cameras, but for smaller work, like daytime street photgraphy because the film simulations remain the main aspect I like and prefer about Fujifilm. Next up, I want to beef up my Sony gear with a Sony 7AIV of my own. :))
That's true! One would think APS-C lenses are cheaper, but those solid Sigma lenses often outpace the Fuji equivalents in price. The A7IV’s image profiles are also pretty good and can be adjusted nicely, which might make Fuji less appealing for you. Personally, I enjoy the Sony profiles when tailored to taste!
The Sony movie studio is literally a separate company from the Sony camera company, one is based in Los Angeles and the other is based in Japan. If you can say that they’re not focused because they’re in different businesses then you can say the exact same about canon since they make printers, scanners, and other non-photography products.
Yes, that's probably true. The difference, however, is that Canon products mainly come from the field of photography, as you just mentioned, like printers and scanners. Sony, on the other hand, was initially a technology company, and only later did cameras come into the picture. When I say Canon, most people usually think of cameras first, and when I say Sony, most people tend to think of PlayStation or TVs. Sony even has a car in development....
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel well canon makes other products that aren’t photography related, I just mentioned a few that are, but they also make calculators, and then tons of other business oriented products, including semiconductor machines and all kinds of other weird stuff - if you go to their website you can see under the “business” tab at the top, so they’re far from just a photography company. I just think these companies are fairly segmented and I don’t think the Sony movie business has any connection to the Sony television or photography business. And like you pointed out Sony didn’t just step into the photo industry themselves, they bought a company that had a lot of history and legacy in optics, and they didn’t even buy the entire company of Konica minolta, they only bought their consumer photography business, the rest of the company still exists doing other stuff to this day, like printers and office solutions, so that conpany was similarly structured in different business units. Panasonic is too, so I think if we want to talk about who is the most focused on photography, I guess it would be Nikon?
For important work, I only shoot with my good old Sony A7RIII - from everything I saw after that, it couldn’t get much better in terms of picture quality. And AF is reliable for every wedding scene, also dancing in dim light. I like that camera as a workhorse, even if I don’t like it as a camera you want to play with and go out. And that’s what I like my Fuji. I never tried to take it for wedding or client work, because I am still looking for best practices. My best and most reliable AF lens is my 35mm F2 which nails nearly every shot. Maybe it’s because of it is a slower lens.
Yep, the Sonys are real workhorses but somehow so soulless. I can't describe it any other way. Maybe I'll do like you and get a Fuji to play with for everyday use. :D
I have the XH2S and luckily I haven't had to deal with the AF in video as I use manual cine lenses exclusively for that part of my work. However, the AF performance for photo has been a bit dodgy at times and outright shit other times. I would use eye tracking AF, the camera would show the green boxes locked on, take a few shots and would see photos slightly out of focus, or focused on the eye brow or eye lashes instead of the iris. I'm using native Fuji lenses too- 23 1.4 WR, 56 1.2 WR and the 35 1.4. Still poor performance in stills. The firmware updates seem to not make much of a difference or complete break the AF in other regaurds. This does not inspire confidence, especially for paid work. I want my tools to work like advertised. I have resorted to using manual focus at time for stills, but doing though sucks with focus-by-wire lenses. I have now moved my stills work to Nikon and haven't had any issues at all. They might not be as fun (the ZF is still fun as hell), but I can rely on them and they are consistant.
Using only MF is probably the best way to use a Fuji. :D Many people downgrade their X-H2s to version 1.0 because the AF is much better in direct comparison. No idea why Fuji messed up the AF-C so badly. As you said, you just can't trust the camera when random shots are simply out of focus. I think you're better off with Nikon. Nikon is really strong in the video sector too.
Sony has created a generation of button pushers (and more photographers) who think that autofocus is the be-all and end-all of hardware. There were wedding and sports photographers long before the PlayStation maker. It's a shame to see so many people succumbing to the lure of the electronics guy. Thanks.
Autofocus has naturally led to an increase in people who might not be suited for professional work. What I couldn’t stand was that even when the Fuji indicated that images were in focus, many of them turned out to be out of focus in the end. Unfortunately, you couldn’t trust the camera. I would therefore prefer to photograph a wedding with a Leica M rather than with a camera that tells you it’s in focus but turns out not to be. Without modern autofocus features, you shoot differently-less flexibly, and often from the move with more depth of field to compensate for focus errors.
Great video and confirms my findings as well. I feel Sony has no soul like Fuji but the final image is what counts. And then there is the price difference but that is another video... Great channel!
Thanks, when you're working commercially, it doesn't really matter if the camera has "soul." Yeah, the price difference for "pro" gear is actually cheaper with Sony, especially if you use third-party lenses. Lol.
Checking back in!! :) how’s it working out? I recently realized on my Sony as long as i tone shift my white balance I’m pretty happy. Something I never had to think about on my fuuuujjj :)
So far everything is okay. Autofocus is reliable and I don't worry about it at all anymore, which is great. However, I already broke my A7RV. The touch layer of the touchscreen is damaged, and the front dial is somehow misaligned.
Long time XT user - finally decided to buy new Fuji gear two weeks ago. Love the look and feel of the XT5, the grip of the X-H2. Buffer on the X-T5 is shit and the X-H2 autofocus after the update got worse somehow. Did a long shoot this last week and 250/1100 shots aren’t focused… needless to say I’m returning the X-H2 and grabbing a Sony A7IV tomorrow.
I was doing to similar tests with my S5II at firmware v3. I tried every single possible combinations of AF settings using 50mm f/1.8 lens and the keep rate was 50% at its best. If different conditions are considered, the rate can easily go beyond 30%. If the hit rate was consistent and above a reasonable percentage, I would keep it. Anyways, I liked your testing methodology, which convinced me to return S5II and get Sony A7 IV or A7C II.
Hmm, that still surprises me a bit. I had the Leica Q3, and during a shoot with a lot of movement, the Summilux had almost no out-of-focus shots. Maybe try testing again with a different lens, as the lens contributes a lot to autofocus performance. Otherwise, better go with a newer generation Sony like the A7CII or wait a bit for the A7V.
Ich bin gerade auf dein Video gestoßen, weil ich auch überlege meine XT5 für eine Sony7iii zu tauschen.... Ich bin ebenfalls Hochzeitsfotografin und, obwohl ich meine XT5 und Fuji liebe, hab ich oft das Gefühl, dass die für die schwierigen Bedingungen einer Hochzeit nicht gemacht ist. mir gefallen die high iso Bilder überhaupt nicht. Es ist so matschig und die Hauttöne verschwimmen mit den Augen. Eine kurze frage: Hat deine xt5 auf lange gebraucht, um sich zu "erholen", wenn man ganz viele shots hintereinander gemacht hat?
If you want to get a Sony, you might as well go for the A7IV; they’re often practically given away during Black Friday. The reason your X-T5 takes a long time after a series of shots could be that your SD card has too slow write speeds. This would result in a longer writing process.
Agree. I have a fujifilm system love the images but refuse to upgrade until they supply decent autofocus. I can buy latest sony A6700 with lens instead of latest fujifilm XT5. Going to change systems.
I also had the X-S10. Great camera in AF-S. :D Canon are a**holes with their closed mount. The X-T6 will take a really long time to come out. If you need a camera now, I would go for the A7CII or wait for the A7V. Those would be the current generation.
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Canon being closed RF mount isn't the best and NEARLY deterred me. But, as I just shoot for fun I bought the R6MII after a lot of consideration. The RF 50mm f1.8 is great, the RF 16mm f2.8 is great, the RF 100-400mm is fantastic, and the RF 24-105mm f4 L is an incredible video lens and parfocal. None of these lenses are expensive, all but 1 are super light, and they cover the bases until the mount is fully open. The AF is ridiculous, the battery lasts forever, and the camera communicates with the Godox flash fully for ISO adjustments and screen brightness, which no Fuji can do. The Canon isn't perfect and the Fuji has redeeming qualities, but the Canon is simply better.
It’s really nice when you can take your time for photography and compositions. Unfortunately, you don’t always have that luxury. I photograph many weddings, and I would be completely lost with a medium format camera for documentation. :D
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I agree. If I was into wedding photography I would most likely go with the R5 ii. I used to use a 5D iv but the new mirrorless are just amazing for the job.
I considered Fujifilm as an alternative for a6700, because of bigger resolution and some other features. But cannot use camera which doesn’t have good autofocus, it’s crucial for event photography and videos. Fujifilm seemed very appealing alternative. It’s fine for landscape and architecture photography. Regardless of camera companies claiming that they have superior camera actually cameras of any manufacturer are lacking on some areas. Will be very interesting when DJI’s camera comes to market.
As a fun camera, Fujis are really great, but for commercial stuff, as you've noticed yourself, I think it's better to go with other cameras. Unless you're photographing things that don't move quickly. I've also heard about the DJI camera, and I'm curious to see what they'll bring out, since they already have quite a bit of experience in the field and can tap into a lot of R&D with Hasselblad.
Indeed, unfortunately Fuji autofocus isn’t good enough for a lot of professional situations. I keep a Sony and Fuji system, and reserve the Fuji for subjects that are still or for manual focus.
I am at the same spot and I am desperate, first I thought I am just bad at taking pictures but now I had a Sony in my hand and realised I am awesome but my autofocus is as dysfunctional as me during PMS. Luckily I paid off the camera in three months after two years to get completely new gear 🥲🥲🥲 my credit card is cheering, I will cry now into my pillow. Thank you for your video
Sometimes it’s your skill, sometimes it’s the camera. It’s hard to tell what it is sometimes. I know a guy who bought a Sony A1 just to rule out that the camera was the problem. LOL But you don’t have to sell your gear right away. It’s best to learn to work with the limitations. That will help you become a better photographer. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel thank you for your answer! Really appreciate and saw your update that your Sony broke down. I am waiting for your update. I am (un)patiently waiting on the new autofocus update for the xt5
Trialled a Sony A7iv, then a Fuji X-H2. Bought the X-H2 because despite the Sony AF being light years better than the Fuji's, I just preferred the Fuji as a camera. Now have an OM-1Mk2 on my desk to see how that's stacks up with AF before making a decision on whether to ditch Fuji for OMDS, or ditch them both for Sony and accept that the camera I don't really want is actually the best for what I need (which is simply a decent camera to keep up with life, and my kids refusing to stay still for photos!).
I can suggest you try the Panasonic S5II. It has access to all Sigma lenses and a pretty good autofocus. By the way, Nikon is also not bad, especially the Zf could be interesting. 😄 Maybe you'll find the right camera for you then
I am in the same boat. I went with the A7III, for now. I am still gonna keep my Fuji gear and hope for a new firmware fix, or maybe the next gen will be better. 🤷🏻♂️
I am a "Fuji fanboy" I guess but, I'm a realist more I think . So, you need what works best for you. Especially when money is involed . The people that say it's you and not the gear, just like to tinker. Out of the box the Sony just works with a lot less tinkering . I love my X-H2s and my X-S20 but, I can't say they havent let me down a few times. I also have an A7 IV because I shot a sweet 16 next to my brother , he was using the A7 IV and i was using the X-T4 and X-H2s . I had so many shots out of focus I felt horrible delivering the photos. So, I bought an A7 IV for my paid gigs. I love using my fuji gear for my RUclips channel and family stuff.
Sometimes you realize how good or bad a device is when you see it in direct comparison. I had the X-S10 from the start for my channel and always thought it had top autofocus until I really had to work with it. But now you have an A7IV, so you don't have to fear any gig anymore. :D
4:28 an APSC camera's noise performance is always 1 stop below a FF sensor camera of the same era. This is simple physics of the nature of light and noise (see total amount of light). Anyhow, I fully understand your preferences: honestly in 2024, if a professional phtographer came to my daughter's wedding with an APS-C camera, with inferior AF, I'd pick another photog with the proper equipment. Bird photography, sports photography, these are not for Fujifilm. Fujifilm is for hobby shooters like me, I don't need the crazy performance of AF of Sony cameras, instead, I love the film simulation dial on the X-T50 immensely, the possibility to print directly onto an Instax printer., shutter speed dial. These are the "gimmicky features" I love with Fujifilm. I used to have a high quality tilt-shift (F - X) adapter and it was enormous fun to shoot with Nikon F lenses on my Fujifilm camera.
For the weddings I attend, I really sometimes need every bit of light I can get. Unfortunately, APS-C isn't enough in so many situations that I had to switch whether I wanted to or not. I also think that at some point in the future, I'll buy another Fujifilm just for fun, but from the next generation. 😅 Being able to send directly to an Instax printer is really cool, of course.
Ich liebe die Fuji Jpeg Farben, aber der AF ist einfach nicht auf der Höhe der Zeit. Und in Fujiforen bekommt man dann zu hören, dass Fotografieren mit Fuji halt noch Sachverstand erfordert, während mit Sony und co. Jeder Amateur fotografieren könne 😂. Ich hab ne kleine günstige Fuji behalten wegen der Filmsimulationen. Wenn ich sicher sein will, dass der AF sitzt, dann nehm ich die A7IV
Jau, die vielfalt der Farboptionen ist bei Fuji echt nicht zu schlagen. Ich denke nicht das man mit Fuji mehr Sachverstand braucht wenn man alles auf Auto stellt ist jede Kamera selbst eine Filmkamera von jeden Amateur relativ einfach zu benutzen. :D Maximal eine für eine digitale Leica M bräuchte man etwas mehr wissen wegen fehlender AF funktion.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel die Antwort in Foren dreht sich in erster Linie um den AF, der genauso gut sei wie der von Sony, wenn man denn wüsste wie man ihn genau einstellen muss. Natürlich für jede Situation neun. Das Sony und Canon Kameras das auch so hinbekommen wurde dann abgetan. Das waren halt die Fujifanboys 😄😄
@@Sir_pxalot Jaja die lieben Fanboys. Theoretisch muss man wirklich für jede Situation den AF-C anders einstellen. 😅Allerdings die Fokussierung auf kurze Distanz geht leider mit keinen Preset oder Einstellung wirklich zufriedenstellend. Die direkte Augen AF Erkennung ist aber wirklich gut und auf aktuellen Niveau nur der Rest der AF-C Systems nicht....
Unfortunately, I can no longer recommend Sony without reservations. The Sony repair service in Germany is just abysmal to the point where I’m hoping no camera breaks anymore, and I’m even considering switching again.
So jetzt endlich mal Zeit für meinen Kommentar hier. Witzig das ich die Tage auf dein Video gestoßen bin. Die ganze Fuji Thematik macht mir wirklich wirklich traurig und auch ein stück weit wütend. Ich weiß jetzt nicht ob ich ein Fuji-Fanboy bin aber ich mag das System und habe daher auch ne Xh2 und ne XH2s und oh Boy was soll ich sagen. Ich bin (jetzt erst durch das letzte Update) wieder einmal so enttäuscht von meiner Fuji XH2s das ich sie am liebsten in einen Karton packen würde und in den Nächsten Landen zum verkauf ausstellen würde. Nicht nur das Die Kamera ja mit dem AF zu kämpfen hat und da ohnehin schon hinterher hinkt, nein, jetzt haben sie es mit dem letzten Update auch noch verschlimmbessert. Was ich damit meine? Die Kamera (Beide XH2/s) zeigen dir die grüne AF box EXAKT auf dem Auge des Tier/Person/Whatever an und du denkst ja, geiler shot und dann gehts rüber zu Lightroom und du siehst okay, Fokus völlig daneben, bei fast jedem Bild. Das ist so frustrierend. Klar sagen jetzt Einige: Ja aber das ist ja nur ein Updatefehler und das wird bestimmt bald behoben usw usw, Ja klar, aber 1. Kommt mir das bei Fuji in der Spanne die ich jetzt diese Kameras besitze ein bisschen zu häufig vor und 2. Ist Gerade die XH2s Ohnehin schon trotz ihrer Tollen Hardware (Stacked-Sensor) einfach so mittelmäßig was den AF angeht das ich es kaum glauben kann und es Gefühlt mit jedem Update trotz Ankündigung gleich schlecht und/oder schlechter wird. Ich werde immer mehr und mehr in professionelleres "Arbeiten" hinein gezogen und umso mehr das passiert, umso mehr entdecke ich die Stellen oder Bereiche in denen mich die Kamera im stich lässt. Ich meine das Ding hockt auf nem Stacked-Sensor. AUF NEM VERDAMMTEN STACKED-SENSOR und performt so unterirdisch. Das Ding ist doch von Sony gebaut oder?, sollen sie halt Geld in die Hand nehmen und sich in dem AF-Algorythmus einkaufen damit sie den verwenden können. Ich könnte selbst damit leben aber das der Fokus aktuell durch dieses miserable Update auch noch effektiv Falsch wiedergegeben wird und du dich nicht mal mehr drauf verlassen kannst das wenn du die Box aufm Auge hast und abdrückst es auch scharf ist an der Stelle... Ich merke halt einfach das die Zuverlässigkeit zu wünschen übrig lässt. Klar war/ist mir bewusst das sie kein Canon oder Sony Level hat, aber gefühlt hinkt die Kamera 4-5 Jahre hinterher. Eine Sony Alpha 7IV Die IMMERNOCH den alten bzw. nicht den neuen AF-Algorythmus der R7V oder der Alpha 6700 nutzt macht das um längen besser. Auch nicht perfekt klar, aber besser. Sehr viel besser. Und die hat keinen Stacked-Sensor. Ich kann deinen Schritt wirklich wirklich nachvollziehen und ich denke für meine "Profesionellen" Arbeiten werde ich mir auch auf kurz oder Lang eine Sony zulegen. Entweder auch ne A7IV oder ich warte, denn die A7V wartet auch schon an der nächsten Ecke (denke ende des Jahre kommt da die Ankündigung) und ich werde mich ins Sony-Lager begeben weil sie einfach abliefern und der E-Mount allgemein auch nicht unattraktiv ist mit seiner großen Objektivvielfalt. Ich werde da zwar denke ich einiges Vermissen was ich jetzt bei der Fuji habe, aber die Zuverlässigkeit spielt da einfach eine zu große Rolle, besonders wenns bei Events einfach sitzen muss. Beste grüße meinerseits an dich, Mach weiterhin so gute Videos. Ich freue mich aufs Nächste, Abo und Like sind raus ;)
Du bist schon der zweite der mir über dieses ominöse update berichtet das den AF komplett zerstört. Dann kann Fuji froh sein das ich diese update noch nicht gemacht habe sonst wären die Ergebnisse vielleicht sogar noch schlimmer. 😅 Fuji ist eine der wenigen firmen die ihre Sensoren noch selbst herstellt (bis auf GFX die sind von Sony). Also selbst wenn sie es kaufen könnten würde Sony sicherlich ihre goldene Gans herausrücken und den AF Algorithmus verkaufen. Die Fuji fühlt sich aber wirklich noch an als würde sie zwei Generation hinter Sony hinterherhinken. Da ich mir zwischenzeitlich die A7RV gekauft habe und meine Frau die A7IV benutzt kann ich dir sagen. warte lieber auf die A7V. Es lohnt sich denn der AF ist nochmal eine ganze ecke besser geworden. Danke dir übrigens für die Unterstüzung. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Ja, ich denke sollte ich wirklich den Schritt zu sony machen werde ich auf die a7v warten, hab schon oft gehört das der "neue" af nochmal ne ganze ecke mehr reist. schade das ich mir darüber gedanken machen muss/will weil fuji einfach scheinbar nicht ihre hausaufgaben macht.
Philip Bloom has a pretty interesting video about Fujifilm autofocus. He only tried videos. He makes dry, diplomatic remarks about the focus quality. His video contains an interesting revelation about the role of lenses in the autofocus problem. It appears that lens has a significant impact on autofocus quality. Based on his comparison, it is clear that there will be no fixes for current Fujifilm cameras and lenses due to hardware limitations. Only a very small number of current lenses may benefit from future firmware updates.
Sounds like an interesting video that I’ll have to check out. 👌 As a loyal viewer of Christopher Frost, I’ve thought about this too, especially since I used the brand new XF lenses with linear motors for my test. I don’t think we’ll see better lenses in the next 5-10 years. Personally, I don’t think it’s the lenses that are the issue. In photo mode, it seems to me that the algorithm simply can’t keep up with the speed changes of the object it’s tracking. This might also be because Fuji has far too few focus points to accurately gauge distance. Sony has almost double that in the A7IV. Add to that a mediocre algorithm, and you end up with the problem.
Even Fujifilm may not fully understand their unreliable autofocus 😂. The worst part is that they remain silent. They could be truthful. Sony cameras now have a focus map, which is a very useful feature in some circumstances. However, based on this feature, we can conclude that Sony cameras can give better instructions to their lenses, reducing the need for hunting. A couple of days ago, I was shooting with a Canon eos 300, which reminded me of how accustomed I have become to modern Sony autofocus. The only feature I missed while shooting on film was modern autofocus.
Same thing is happening to me right now - X-H2 will have to go and A7C2 will join me on my journey 🤷♂️ Btw.: I often hear people complaining about the sony colors, is it true? Green skin tones etc.?
It's harder to get good JPEGs out of the Sony, but at least with the newer cameras, you can't complain about skin tones. They fixed that with the A7SIII. In RAW, you don't have any problems with that anyway.
I thought and still think the same as you: SONY is not known as a traditional camera manufacturer. But I shoot with Panasonic Lumix (currently S5 II), so it's also not a traditional camera manufacturer. What I don't like about SONY cameras is the haptics and ergonomics. Yes, they are class leading in speed and AF-performance but I do not need the best AF-system for my style of photography. Panasonic is catching up and I like their strategy producing compact and leightweight lenses - and L-Mount is great. I also thought about Canon and fully agree with you: as long as the RF-Mount can only be used with original Canon-lenses or adapted ones, I would never switch to Canon. You've had already trouble with Leica, I hope, you'll be glad with SONY. Have fun!
Oh, the Panasonic S5II is a fantastic camera. If I were only shooting videos, that would be my absolute first choice. The autofocus is the same as in the Q3, and I had no problems with it either. Thanks to the L-Mount Alliance, you can also use Sigma lenses, which is a big advantage. The box tracking isn't nearly as good as on Sony, but that would be my only complaint. By the way, I already broke my Sony. :D It froze, and now the touchscreen isn't working properly. lol
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Oh dear, you seem to have a lot of trouble with your cameras. I hope you get this fixed and will be fine for a long time.
I feel same ashamed as you for looking to Sony (due to its AF-performance) 🙃. Was looking too much and finally ordered. It depends on its ergonomics and operational handling if I really take this step changing camera system. AF-performance is not everything but the S5II is still lacking behind my expectations. Sometimes there isn't any challenging situation and the AF fails (e.g. people wearing glasses, hair in front of the eyes, playing children, whatever). I will check the A7RV+24-105 F4 and then decide.....
Have done some comparisons. It's a pity but it's true. The AF-performance and -accuracy of the A7R5 is near perfect....in opposite to the S5II...there you need best conditions and sometimes luck.
I noticed in your testing with shooting that you’re using mechanical shutter… does this. It hamper the continuous AF, where choosing electronic shutter and even boosting it, would give you better tracking and consequently focused shots?
The only focus mode that works almost perfectly on the Fuji is the area mode with object tracking, out of every 100 photos it gets at least 95 right, the other focus modes are really very bad. Fuji unfortunately doesn't have the ability to create a good focus system.
I also searched for many other wedding photographers on RUclips to see how they solve the AF-C problem... by only using AF-S... if your focus system is so bad that professional photographers completely avoid it. 😅
Using fujifilm xt3 + XF 35 f1.4 as hobby. No complain… even that combination make the AF more slower. And yet still enjoying to shoot photos If i had more money and need reliable camera. No doubt to buy better spec camera
I’ll put it this way: My A7RV managed to last just about 2 months before breaking. The repair service then claimed there was water damage, which wasn’t even there, and I had to pay €350 before they actually dealt with the real issue. All in all, after the ordeal with the German repair service, I can only advise against buying a Sony. By the way, I’m making my own video about it.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel, that is so sad to hear! I've been using Sony cameras for years outside, and they've never broken down. I've heard that "water inside the camera" has become a popular excuse for avoiding replacing the camera throughout the warranty term. Consumers cannot prove otherwise either. 😢
I have Sony and Fuji and completely agree with your video. The Sony just does what you expect but it’s not fun. Fuji does what it wants but it’s fun af.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel What is the definition of fun you are talking about? I don't find "checking the photos after the shot to realize half of them are unusable because nothing in focus" is fun to me. I used the Xt3 with 56mm 1.2, now I wait for my a6700 with Sony e 35mm 1.8 oss.
I love the fuji colours and have built a brand round that and it does stand out form the crowd and my editing style can kind of make the Sony files sing but I need to time with them do so. Im at point where I have done the same test as you and its always the last few pictures as you get closer to the camera and you're face detect does get more in focus. I dont think its the fact fuji is bad its the fact that Sony is spectacular AF wise you can just let the camera do its thing. And if they can do it should everyone? But I am on the verge of selling everything I shouldn't loose much money if any as I buy everything sound hand
If you're not sure yet whether you should sell everything, then it's better to wait. Maybe it's also a good idea to have both systems and use specific cameras for certain situations. For jobs, for example, just take both with you and use Fuji for the majority and only use Sony for movements so you don't have so much post-processing work. That's what I would have done if I had worked alone, but it didn't work out with my wife.
I'm also a Fuji shooter who was forced to buy a Sony for the autofocus and narrower depth-of-field. Yeah, Sony is better for sports and low-light. The difference is obvious. But Fuji ergonomics and colors are superior.
I feel your pain when it comes to fuji's unreliable AF. i switched to fuji in 2018 because nikon was late in the mirrorless game. Just a week ago i sold all of my fuji gear and got the Z9. Why? For all the AF issues you have mentioned in your video. I shoot my very active 2.5yo son almost everyday and i really need good AF-C accuracy. When i work at the studio, one of fuji's sharpest lens, The One 50mm f1.0, can't even keep up when the models/clients change poses quickly. So yeah, i loved fuji's ergonomics and color science but they really need to improve AF accuracy and make only LM lenses. Why not Sony one may ask. I never liked Sony because of the interface though their AF system is the best in the world. Same reason goes to Canon. It's a personal preference.
Nikon would have been my choice too, right after Sony. The Z9 is a killer camera that I would also like to try out. But I can absolutely understand why someone wouldn't buy Sony because of the menu. It's absolutely ugly, although the layout itself is actually okay
I was full Fuji person I kept my GFX cameras but sold off all my x-mount to go Sony. Now I just picked up a X100VI as I really really despise the Sony colours and can't take pleasure using it. Hower, when the client mission is "don't f*ck this up. We need a photo from this and this person together" and they basically shake hands and part ways in 0,5 seconds, I'm not having any second thoughts. I'm going Sony.
That's true, at events you sometimes only have small moments for important shots, and you can't mess up, and Fuji tends to do that. Especially when it's darker. I'm glad that with Sony you don't constantly have to worry if you really got the shot.
hey there BigNegative, should I grab the Sony A7iii with 3 prime lenses 35, 50 and 85mm for $1600? I am on limited budget, and as much as the aesthetics of Fujifilm XT is appealing, I do want the best/ accessories for the money. Thanks! I want to call the shot now.
Oh hey, unfortunately, I've never had an A7III, so I can't tell you how good that camera is. It also depends a lot on your shooting style and what you want to photograph. Therefore, it's really not easy for me to give you a good answer. Sorry about that.
dank dir, hatte heute mal schön ausgeschlafen. 👌gate keeping ist wirklich unnötig. Da dir schlaf anscheinend recht wichtig ist wünsch ich dir auch einen guten schlaf. 👍
The only scenario where I'll pick fuji is the times where I'm lazy to edit in post/color grade. Sony literally stomped fuji on everything else. I don't think there's any reason to pick fuji unless you're lazy to edit (which on nicer terms you can call it simplicity, shoot and be done with it, no post editing needed). And that's negated even more with their new color science releasing with A7RV and A6700
That's probably the main reason most people buy Fuji: the JPGs. Besides, I've now played around a lot with the files and even the JPG settings from Sony, and I don't find them that bad at all. Definitely much better than their reputation.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel The new color science is more vibrant and alive looking, like canon's color science now! Previously their old color science is contrasty, and desaturated so nearly every photo looks gritty
Just dumped all of my Fuji gear and doubled down on Canon. The autofocus was a no go and left me very annoyed with my travel photos. I tried for years, Fuji!
Believe me, I've tried every possible combination of AF-C settings to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. I also tried other things and settings, like different shutter modes, performance modes, and different lenses, but it always led to the same poor result. Meanwhile, with Sony, I didn't even touch the AF-C settings and got almost perfect results every time.
yeah, I have X-T3 and thinking about switching to Sony for exactly the same reason but there's also new updates of Lumix S5IIx and I'm more on the video shooting side and there's bunch of functions absent in Sony that I really like and need, and only appear in much more expensive models....
If you're going to make more videos anyway, you'd better go with the Lumix S5II; it's much better suited for that and has many more options for filmmakers.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I found that I like film photography more, and do some street photography as well, hence the need for better AF, but idk if AF in recent Lumix cameras are better
@@quite1enough I had the Leica Q3 (which is essentially Panasonic software), and it had a pretty good AF-C auto eye focus. I even photographed a whole wedding with it, which was quite pleasant, and I didn't have any problems like with the Fuji. However, whether it's sufficient for street photography for you, I can't say because I don't know your style. Unfortunately, you would have to test it out yourself.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel there's also a chance that I have a bad copy :( mine was three time in service already since my purchase but it was mainly physical damages (flex cable of shutter button and command rear-dial)
Are you a wedding photographer now? What did you use the x-t5 for before that you are now switching to Sony for weddings? I like the FUjis, but honestly, Sony just offers so much more of the function. Ergonomics is just...well, a matter of taste, but you can live with it. And Canon RF Mount...yeah, I have it, miss a lot of functions my old sony a7 iii offered.
My first wedding was actually with the Leica Q3. :D It was fun, and even that had better eye autofocus than the X-H2, which I then used for it. At every wedding, there was always a moment when the AF failed, which annoyed me so much that I got the A7IV.
@@tobis2265 I'd say Sony colors are better than their reputation. The RAWs are really easy to edit and have a ton of dynamic range. I believe the skin tones were adjusted with the A7SIII and look very authentic. From that perspective, I can't complain.
Is frustrating that with autofocus so advanced now that Fuji cannot match Sony. So many people love the analogue style of camera but can be put off by these shortcomings
Yeah, I would have loved to keep the X-T5, but unfortunately, the way I work doesn't allow it. The AF-S is really great though. Sony could release a retro camera, I think they would find a lot of buyers there.
@@r423sdex As you wish. I mean, I provided clear video evidence in the end that the camera couldn't handle it. Tested five times, failed to reproduce five times. Considering the sales of Fujis X100V and VI, and looking at Ricoh's delivery difficulties, the market is currently seeking exactly that.
I've done my first wedding with Nikon F2 and 24 & 50mm lenses, plus a small flash. No autofocus, automatic of any sort, nothing. And that was 35 years ago. Nobody complained. All your remarks about Canon are true. I'd add to that s***ty colours. I know, some people love that colour palette, but I'm not one of them. For me, Canon's JPEG is crap, and I don't have the time to deal with RAW's, most of the time. Reason being that I've choose Fuji for colours and jpeg IQ, sooc. I'll rather deal with imperfect autofocus (if I'll ever use it) than s***ty files I have to post process for hours without end in sight. And I wouldn't pick Sony either. Not that Sony is making bad cameras, but my hate towards that company goes decades back. Nothing that I ever bought from Sony works anymore, period. I feel betrayed...
Before the existence of the internet, the neighbor or a newspaper was the only comparison one had for wedding photos. So, I would estimate that the expectations were quite low back then :D That's why I'd say it's hard to compare. If you need SOOC JPEGs, Fuji is definitely the best you can get. Your dislike for Sony is confirmed by my experience. My A7RV had a pretty annoying defect after not even 2 months. However, the repair was so disastrous that I have to make a video about it...
Is there a reason beyond AF performance or 3rd party lens availability to go with Sony? Do they make one that feels good and hand and doesn’t scrape your knuckles with a lens attached? I’m serious, Sony is a great innovative company but not really a camera company, as you said.
So, I'm almost 2 meters tall and have big hands, and I don't touch the lens with my knuckles. I think if that's an issue, Canon might be better since their cameras are quite large and offer more space.
Fujifilm would have me as a fanboy/girl for life if they fixed the AF. I invested way too much money in the brand already - had 3 of their cameras and too many lenses to count - and there is a lot to like about the images | get out of the camera - when I am able to get an image in focus..., but slowly and surely I am letting go of my gear. Not sure which brand to go to... I would likely consider an updated version of the RX1R, but the price needs to be reasonable (that camera still costs over 4000€... which is INSANE. Even the new Fujifilm cameras, the X100VI and the X-T50 are kinda over the limit for a hobbyist, so not sure who they are made for...
The prices have really exploded in recent years. The price of the new X100VI seems to be the new standard price for hobbyists, as it appears. The success of Fujifilm cameras alone gives them the confidence not to compete in the APS-C price segment of Canon and Sony anymore. I think even for 1800 or 2000, people would still buy the X100VI. Even in the unlikely event that Sony would reintroduce the R1XR, it would surely be around 4000.... Just because the A7RV costs so much.
I'm privileged but I have a Sony a7riv and a Fujifilm xe-3 (with a Fujifilm x100vi upgrade on the way....hopefully...it may get here before the end of the century). They're very different cameras for different purposes in my mind. The small Fujifilm for everyday carrying around and the Sony for when I want the hardcore powerhouse that can do anything and give me perfect shots. Why not keep both?
Of course, you can keep both, but something like the X100VI isn't really meant for wedding photography. :D So, it makes sense to have a Sony for work and an X100 for fun. And yes, the menus are absolutely strange and ugly on Sony.
The 3.01 firmware unfortunately came out after I made the video. However, I've already received two comments saying that the tracking has actually gotten worse rather than better. But I can't confirm that myself without the camera.
The Fuji XT5 is a truly great camera. The compact size, the flexible display, and the controls have brought me a lot of joy. Unfortunately, in the commercial realm, I kept running into technical limitations. Since I prefer working with natural light, I had to deal with high ISO values and corresponding image noise. Of course, one could compensate for this with a flash. However, my biggest issue was also with the focus. Especially at weddings, one needs to quickly react to situations and capture moments that are quite dynamic. Here, the XT5 unfortunately let me down quite often. About 50% of the images were blurry. I don't want to select images that are technically okay, but rather the ones where everything fits for me - framing, composition, situation. Therefore, switching to Sony was also the right decision for me. 🦝
Yes, unfortunately, reliability is the most important thing in the commercial sector, even if you'd like to shoot with a special camera that sometimes has issues. But I also have to say that the X-T5 was really great.
How do professional photographers like Kevin Mullins manage to produce absolutely fabulous pictures even with the likes of xpro 1 and you can’t with an XT5?
@@Mw02veg Oh, I can do it with an X-T5, I could easily shoot a whole wedding with an M6 as well. However, just as an X-Pro 1 limits you in certain things it doesn't master, the X-T5 restricts you in certain aspects. While Canon, Nikon, and even Panasonic have figured out how to do it. Even the Leica Q3 has managed to have a more reliable AF-C at short distances. I could have lived with the limitation, but I want to choose my images based on the expression of the couples, not on 'did the AF-C hit or not.
I’ve shot weddings with the XT5 and it focuses fine if you use the continuous focus and have the shutter 1/2 pressed. I’m sticking with Fuji all the way.
Currently using the same D7100 I’ve used for years and years… and I know I’m stuck in the past but I love how the front and rear dials work… and using the various buttons as ‘shift’ to adjust iso / EV comp etc instantly using the same dials. I want to go back to mirrorless (I have a Samsung NX3000 mirrorless as my first camera)…obviously not in the same league as what’s available now but one thing I remember HATING was having to go into menus for basic things, having to use the d-pad dial for shutter speed in manual mode, and having to use the live view screen to see settings that are now all visible on the LCD on top of my Nikon. I know a Sony would be a good choice of camera… and I also love a bit of up close portrait. So what do I do? I just watched a guide on the A6500 and it looks like a massive step backwards from my D7100 in terms on usability and access to settings. This is why I’ve fancied a Fuji for a while now…. All those lovely control dials really appeal to me. I’m torn!!! Also… all this eye tracking stuff! I know it’s been a round for a while but I’m still using the viewfinder and a single focus spot. I even use the D pad to move the spot to where I know I’m going to want it as I’m raising the camera to my eye… that’s how engrained that ‘manual’ autofocus (contradiction I know) method is in my brain. On occasions where I might sticker I occasionally use 9 focus spots but the way these cameras track subjects now blows my mind!
If you appreciate Nikon, it makes sense to stick with them, especially since their cameras haven’t changed much in terms of operation. The new Nikon Zf could be a great fit if you like Fuji’s dials-those knobs and the new focus technology are pretty impressive!
I cannot agree with this. I have no problem with Fuji AFC and i shoot figure skating shows with fast moving multiple subjects and ever changing colored lights. Have you actually tried using custom settings and not the default that you ehowed in your video! Having said this, I have no experience of Sony but for me Fuji works.
As I said, the problem only arises with very close individuals... so I don't think you're directly photographing figure skating people in close proximity. It usually works quite well from a distance. By the way, I've already tried all the AF-C presets and even a custom setting that should track people approaching slowly but even that doesn't work.
You love your Fuji's AF since you have no clue what is a high performance AF. I used to own an A9, that was brutal: 20 frames per second all in focus of airplains in a air-show.
Honesty...this is just my Biased Opinion...but if Fujifilm X Mount if they every Betray US....which they might since APS-C Size Sensor is becoming somewhat irrevelant since the camera body size of the XH2/XH2s is becoming gigantic similar to Sonys Full Frame Counterpart I can predict 100% of Fujifilm Users will go to Sony Mount... that open mount especially Tamrons lenses are soo spectacular no offense for someone observing from the outside stadium. Im not a Fashion Photographer/ Product Photographer so AFC/ Autofocus means nothing However However If I start to do fashion Shoots more often high chance I will ditch Fujifilm. the Autofocus although it got better...its like 1990s vs 2010
Actually, the X-H2 is even a larger body than the A7 IV. That really surprised me when I bought the Sony. Fuji's strengths definitely lie in cameras like the X-100VI and X-E4 because of their small size. The X-T5 is right on the border. However, I find all the new 1.4 lenses to be way too big for the bodies. This makes the whole system lose its compactness. I recommend testing your new system thoroughly before switching. I trusted various RUclips reviewers and was disappointed.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Exactly this is the reason X-T50 might be an important camera, it goes back to minimalist grip size back tilting screen to maintain a really small profile camera. Panasonic S9 seems to be an amazing camera but the no EVF, left swingout screen makes it not small any more since a left protrudind screen makes it twice as big in size.
Fuji are taking the piss with their terrible AF knowing that their fanboys will defend them no matter what. I ditched Fuji for Nikon (Z9) over a year ago and it's great to now have a system with AF that works as advertised.
The Nikon autofocus should also be significantly better, especially on the excellent Z9. I also don't understand why people energetically defend certain brands. Companies aren't interested in these fanboys.
I jumped from a7cii to xt5. and I don't regret it. I only use RAW. this camera itself takes a lot outside to take pictures. pure pleasure. sony is boring. I'm sick of this sharpness, speed etc. I had everything that was the best and newest in sony. I experienced this bottom. I lost the pleasure of photography. since I have fuji I only think about taking pictures
What I meant was that if you’re photographing for fun, Fuji is definitely a good choice because they make excellent cameras. However, if you’re working commercially and need a low autofocus error rate, Sony is the better option. I also bought an X100VI again because it's much better suited for street photography and travel.
As a canon shooter I’m looking to jump ship hard. Their super telephotos are sooo dim $2500 for a f7.1… how about a “cheap” $650 f8. It’s an obvious cash grab. When they finally let 3rd party lenses on FF they’ll release brighter versions of the lenses knowing idiots will grab them up
I don't think Canon ever plans to let 3rd party manufacturers into the RF mount. They love money way too much for that. :D The funny thing is that most Canon shooters I see are adapting old lenses rather than buying new ones. So if you're looking for affordable telephoto lenses, you'll probably have to search in the EF mount. :D
i have x-s10 and i have invested in 5 lenses - af-c is unacceptable - exactly as you presented (i am glad i haven't bought x-t5) i wish canon has so wide choice of lenses as sony... and know i am on the fence - waiting for x-t6 or buy a7 IV (i think i will go with sony)
I also had the X-S10. Great camera in AF-S. :D Canon are assholes with their closed mount. The X-T6 will take a really long time to come out. If you need a camera now, I would go for the A7CII or wait for the A7V. Those would be the current generation.
Nikon has gotten a lot better, no question. The third place thing isn't actually my opinion but that of many RUclips reviewers. You probably only notice that Nikon is a bit weaker in a direct comparison. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I use a a1 and a Z9. What i found out so far is that the a1 grabs the subject a tiny bit quicker but the Z9 looks a bit stickier. Maybe the lenses play into that as well. For me its a draw. And as i mentioned the lenses come into play. Nikon is probably the best in that department (esp. in the longer ones).On the other hand you can get excellent sony glass second hand. That's the reasons i keep both systems. But there is one fuji lens where there is nothing to compare with and that's the 200 2.0 which made me buy an XH2. I'll find out if it was a good decision.But the camera which i use with the at most joy is my deer old D810.
This is painful to read. I already have the Sony A7iv but I decided to buy into Fuji as well because the Sony has never inspired me, it’s a computer, a good computer, but it’s just not easy to love. Plus, it’s heavier than the xt5 as are the accompanying lenses. Consequently, I haven’t used the Sony as much as I intended to. It just doesn’t excite me. Reading others comments here it would seem I have made a mistake. What you are all saying is the Fuji looks and feels great, but it just can’t compete with the Sony.
That's true, Sony cameras are really just functional tools, and you can definitely tell that they haven't paid much attention to photography enthusiasts. If you don't need to photograph fast-moving objects or people, Fuji is definitely better.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I'm heavily into Fuji and recently was depressing myself thinking I should take the hit and go over to Sony, but I don't actually "need" af-c ... so thanks for this comment which I'm taking as reassurance I'm with the right camera for me. I shoot dozens of recreational flower and bird photos and videos per day almost always in manual focus.
Did you do this test with latest firmware update on the X-T5? After the update I've seen a huge improvement in AFC and Eye tracking with my X-T5 (but far from perfect yet...)
You should have used same minimum foucs distance lenses+aparture and same focal length for full frame and apsc to make the experiment even more perfect. Whatever, Everyone knows, Sony got better autofocus algorithm and their processor is powerful than fuji. Even fuji fanbois will claim it also, They just move forward with it as long as it can autofocus.
Unfortunately, I only had the one lens for Sony. However, I calculated the crop factor accordingly so that the Fuji definitely didn't have a harder time. Unfortunately, I was also misled by all the RUclips reviews that say Fuji has gotten much better... not even close to the range of Sony or Canon
If AF is critical Sony is for you. Colour science in Sonys suck. It's total mess for me to edit videos in davinci. I just wondering how on earth photographers took tack sharp pictures back in the days without eye tracking which is a new gimmick in photography and with shitty dslrs bodies totally unreliable in AF.
How people managed it back then is easy to answer. They photographed differently. Less from movement. When I still had my Leica M11, I could have photographed a wedding with it too, but my pictures would have looked completely different. If the couple then moves towards you, you just have to use a closed aperture for greater depth of field to compensate for focus errors. :D
Canon has heard your pleas and opened the mount, yet there's still a big f*** you for you. Because they only allow Sigma and Tamron to build APS-C lenses. What is your biggest 'f*** you' moment that a manufacturer has brought?
The Fuji's 6.0 autofocus tracking update for X-H2 and X-H2s is the biggest f*** you moment. It just imagines where it should focus, but focuses on completely another point.
@@snappy8k My biggest f*** you moment is buying fujifilm. Lovely images... when they are in focus. Especially, as @iarosnaps says, with the 6.0... this is my last time, for sure, buying fuji. 6 years waiting for an autofocus that can compete with sony/canon. No way...
Hmm, it was the Canon R, I had the camera only for a week, never again a Canon R. Interestingly, howevere, TS17mmF4 is one of my favorite lenses on my Sony cameras. This is a nice example, that if you are in architecture photography, Fujifilm is not even in the arena. Another example, PZ28135F4OSS lens nothing even remotely similar in Fuji world. Actually the E-mount is what made Sony so brilliantly versatile. Another favorite lens of mine is the Canon 100-400L push-pull with a Metabones IV adapter, works brilliantly on any Sony cameras on A7III or above.
@@miklosnemeth8566You could mention WHY you disliked the Canon R.
People loyal to brands need to realize the brands dont give a shit about them. Brand fanboys are the dumbest people.
"Exactly, brands are not your friends but companies seeking profit. You don't have to defend them.
Spot on statement.
The algorithm brought me to you for Fujifilm content, but your presentation style and sense of humor kept me around. Can't wait to see what content you create in this new venture.
Thank you very much for the kind words. I will only create Sony content if there is something interesting to tell. ✌️
"Sony for work, Fuji for me."
The best slogan I've heard so far. 👌
Most honest and true statement ever made.. The Fuji cult made me feel so guilty about buying a FF Sony… but sorry, once you start getting paid to shoot, reliability becomes a HUGE factor and my Fuji XT5 has disappointed me too often on missing AF on what would have been the best shot. That’s fine for me, but my client won’t care about what brand I used. They just need the shot.
I would have no shame switching to Sony. Sony cameras are amazing and they are always at the cutting edge of technology. You have to use the best tool for your work and there is simply no room for brand loyalty. I just can't understand why there are so many brand loyal people out there, I find it crippling to be brand loyoal. I have a Fuji X-T5 and a Sony A7RV and love them both for there own strengths but I would never consider taking the Fuji to a fast pace moving job. Sony is simply leaps and bounds ahead of Fuji when it comes to the AF system, as you have just proven on your video. I am a photographer for a Montessori school, grades K-8 and I can tell you that as fast as kids move and even shooting thier sports events I couldn't imagine using anything else but Sony. Keep in mind that in your video you were doing one of the easiest streight line walking into camera AF test you can do and the Fuji simply failed. Also not sure if you know but the Sony A7IV doesn't even have Sony's new AI Auto Focus in it. I have the A7RV and the AI AF is just mind blowing. One last thing for those that are going to claim that Sony's colors are not good,... you just haven't tried a Sony in years. Their new color science is fantastic and I have compared it to even Leica color that is highly aclaimed. Brand Loyalty is a trait that just works against you!
I fully agree with you on that. I now also have an A7RV and have already done several family shootings with it. There's no chance that the X-T5 could reliably track a fast-running child even at short distances. The build quality of the A7RV is also on another level. I have to admit that Sony's colors are better than their reputation. When shooting raw, it's usually irrelevant anyway, but I've also created a Sony 'recipe' that I really like even in JPG.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel That is awesome! The A7RV is great camera and very suited for many profesional photography and video jobs. I would love to know your Sony recipe!
How about the color of the sony A7III? I love fuji jpegs but I'm thinking of Sony's AF for my toddler..
Sell your fuji and get a nikon zf. Shit covered in shit is not a good look
Once you start spending on a system, that's pretty much it. You have to be very wealthy to be able to talk like that, whether you realize it or not. Lens mounts are very specific and flash mounts too. So there is no need to be rude to anyone, some people will always have a hard time admitting they made the wrong choice. Also, not everybody enjoys a system for the same reasons. There are many reasons to enjoy a manufacturer's product(s), or to dislike it (them).
I just made the switch also for the exact same reason. I adore the pleasing images I get from the xt5 but have shot my last 3 weddings with my Sony.
For weddings, definitely the better choice. 👍
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel found anything to get more of that organic feel with the Sony? I usually set my clarity and texture to around -15 and find that helps along with some grain. But have been thinking about trying a low strength diffusion filter.
For my compact portable camera setup, I just switched to a Sony a7cii with the 40mm f/2.5 (I now have a few other primes). The full size sensor alone is a good reason to switch imo. I still love my GFX setup even with all its flaws…
Oh, the GFX is a completely different, much slower class in terms of speed. :D But the GFX series is designed for entirely different things. The A7C II is really great; I also bought the 40mm because it's so nice and compact.
I really enjoyed my X-T4 and was waiting for the new model to upgrade. I was disappointed upon realizing that the X-T 5 and the X-H2 both had features that I wanted. So, I switched to Sony, in large part because of the AF. At my age, I have shaky hands and failing eyesight. The A7RV has made my life more enjoyable. Very expensive but worth every penny. I'm not about to switch to anything else any time soon. No more money left. LOL But those Fuji camera make photography so much fun with the analog dials.
Meanwhile, I've also switched to an A7RV, and my wife is using the A7IV. I must say that not having to constantly wonder if the focus was accurate or not makes the day so much easier. You can fully concentrate on the people you're photographing. It was really expensive, as you said, but it has definitely been worth every penny.
Totally agree. I began with a NEX6 and went to an a6000. Then I bought an a6400 and realized Sony was not only on the way to solving the terrible menu layout everybody complained about but the auto focus was getting better. Then they produced the compact full frame idea with a body that was just a few milimetres more than the APS-C ones and that started my interest but the menus were still somewhat clunky and the same as on the a6400. When they finally produced the a7CII and a7CR I part exchanged both the a6000 and the a6400 with lenses and got the a7CR with a 24mm 2.8G, the Zeiss 35mm f2.8, 50mm 2.5G and Sigma 90mm 2.8. The larger sensor size is wonderful for recomposing if and when necessary and it’s range is perfect for all conditions. I’ve even shot candids in jpeg at 32000 ISO and am very pleased; it’s the first time I’ve ever been satisfied with anything above what I would have considered an extreme at 6400 ISO with APS-C and I shoot RAW almost all the time. I know everyone agrees about Fujifilm’s jpeg being so good but I recommend trying this Sony, the colours straight out of camera are certainly better than they ever were too.
One happy camper 😀
i've had fuji's since the xt1. just changed to the A7IV for exactly the same reason. love shooting with fuji, but for weddings, the AF is just not enough. I opted to stay with my xt4 with a wide angle, as focus is not so critical and as a backup camera. 95% of my work will come out of the A7IV this year. It's just at another level.
eah, also from the need to make sure the autofocus is accurate, you end up taking more pictures. With the A7IV, this question doesn't arise anymore. But as you say, the X-T4 is still a good backup camera. 👌
Switch to whatever camera you want, but don't expect it to improve your photography.
That's right. You have to build your skills through work. Nevertheless, a more reliable camera is quite pleasant.
People get caught up in gear.
I think the entire point of the video was more infocus shots with the Sony, so that is arguably improving his photography.
Switching from Fuji vastly improved my action photography.
Unless you’re shooting sports photography. Autofocus is king there and only Sony and Canon dominate there.
I used to own an A9 for a year after it was released and available: 20 frames per second all in focus on an air show photographing fast flying planes above the city. Brutal performance, no other manufacturers were able to come even close. And you are talking only about A7IV in your great viodeo, not even A9 territory. Fujifilm cameras are toys for hobby photographers. This was the reason I sold my A9, I am not a professional any more, I don't need an A9. Honestly, I still regret that decision. Anyhow, looking forward to having the X-T50 in my hands, I am a "full time hobby photographer", Fuji is perfect to me.
The X-T50 is a great camera and as mentioned in the video, you can easily photograph 99% of all things with it. Have fun with your new camera. ✌️
I love fuji, but i need something really reliable professionally for my family documentary work. I'm selling my XT5, getting a sony A7IV (thanks to a 400€ discount!), and getting an Xpro3 for pure enjoyment and street photography. Best of both world for pro and personal work :)
I think that’s probably the best setup you can have: a boring commercial camera and one that’s personally fun for you. :D
Right tool for the right job. Fuji for travel and slow paced artsy stuff, and Sony for everything else.
Yes, that's probably the best distribution of the two brands you can make. 👌
tbh there is nothing is artsy about fuji
@@FeRoOOo71 if I use a brush to paint my room, there’s nothing artsy about the brush. If I use the same brush to paint a painting, then there is something artsy about the brush.
i would make another distribution... Fuji for dumpster and Sony for everything else. Hope 7.0 solves, at least a bit, the XH2s AF problem... if not, goodbye Fuji, Hello Sony
Not really, if your travel is for ultimate performance on image quality both resolution and low light noise performance. No APS-C cameras can catch up FF. If your travel is just for fun, yeah OK, you can even use a Nikon F2.
I think Fuji autofocus is getting worse. I have this exact problem a lot while trying to photograph dogs running towards me. More than half out of focus. The worst part is the viewfinder shows the green box around the subject for all of them but the images are out of focus. I was getting better results with my XT3.
I’d like to know more. Which camera are you using? I have just bought the XT5 and I will be using it in precisely the same way. Shooting pics of my very active dog. I hoped the latest firmware update would resolve the auto focus issues that I have seen Fuji users talking about. Have you updated yours and if so are you still getting the same problem?
@@marin313 It’s the XT5 I’m using and it was on the latest firmware. I was also using animal subject detection and I did adjust the Af-c custom settings slightly to see if it made a difference but it didn’t. I would get 3 or 4 images in focus and then 4 or 5 out of focus the closer the dog got to me so just a 50% keep rate. I think it might work better without using subject detection and just using zone focusing so will test that out next. I have tried this on the 16-55 and 100-400 and both had similar results. I’m renting a 50-140 next week so will see how that gets on. The performance should be a lot better than it is at the moment so hopefully future firmware updates help but I believe they have made it worse so far. Love everything else about this camera except the autofocus for anything fast moving.
@@DFitzell Best of luck. As I was in a 14 no quibble return period for my XT5 I decided to take it back. Very disappointed. I like the look and feel of the XT5 and I really wanted it to work. But after giving it a lot of thought and after a long conversation with the camera store, who told me they don’t think Fuji can significantly improve the autofocus through future firmware updates , That will only come with a new sensor on future modes. So, I felt I had no choice but to reject it for now. Such a shame. I have the Sony and I will give it another go even though it doesn’t make my heart sing. But it is reliable and its autofocus system works every time. Fuji has to get to the same point if it wants to survive.
Subject tracking modes don’t care what AF-C settings you use. I recommend playing with single point boxes/AF-C modes and subject tracking off to see which modes work best. Mode 2 and mode 4 are my go-tos these days for good hit rates of crazy kids. There is also things like setting focus traps and bursting, since some animals just run back and forth repeatedly. I’d try this irrespective of what camera brand I’d purchased. It works better if you can resist shooting wide open exclusively, as RUclipsrs seem to promote but pros rarely do.
@@marin313 Problem already solved with the latest upgrade firmware
Really nice wide angle portrait shots ;) I have to try this. I just switched to A7IV also from xh2s and for mi Sony just works.
Thanks :D You're welcome to do it, I don't think you'll get different results.
I switched from XT4 to A7IV. Not regretting it. Ergos better on Fuji for sure and so is the evf but I was missing adapting lenses and keeping the original focal length, plus more third party lenses at that time and autofocus leagues better. Dunno about the XT5 though. Forgot to mention battery life, no more anxiety about that 😅
Wow, you're pretty fast at writing comments :D Yeah, the autofocus annoyed me the most, and the direct comparison is in the last third of the video. Being able to adapt lenses with the original focal length is also a good bonus. :D
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Yeah, thought I could say something about the topic as I relate to it. Can't wait to see the full video.
Thank you for this! If i originally had a canon r50 and never had issues with af. I switched to xt5 after a month because i wanted the film sims for faster uploads (jpegs only shooting) but noticed a lot of shots were out of focus, around 25%. I upgraded to the xh2s because i needed a flip out screen for yt talking head videos and vlogging and was told that it had the best auto focus in all fuji apsc. the hit rate improved slightly - now just down to 10% out of focus but still 10% is huge for professional use. If had only known - i should have upgrade to the sony a7iv instead of the xh2s :(
Oh man, so you've been through the same thing as me. Surprising that you've got a better hit rate with the X-H2 since it's almost the same device as the X-T5. Seems like the sensor has more influence than I thought. But if you mostly shoot videos, I can also suggest trying out the Panasonic S5II. Definitely better autofocus than the Fujis but more video-centric.
Totally agree…. using X-H2s, H2s und XS20 for wedding videography. For video the autofocus is even worse… and the bad thing, it gets even more worse with every firmware update. When they donˋt get it fixed quickly I am also switching, even I am loving the picture quality and colors…
I've also heard that the latest update has even worsened the autofocus. I hope for everyone that Fuji gets that under control. 😅
I just couldn't do what you've done. So Ive bought both the Sony A7RV AND the Fuji X-T5.
Of course, you can do that. 😄 Unfortunately, the budget for an XT-5 is going towards my wife, who also needs a Sony camera.
This is 100% correct and I can confirm similar findings with my two XH2S's with a variety of lenses including LM glass. The AF.C does ok from far to mid ground but from mid to near the AF.C just completely falls apart with extremely poor hit rates. Trying every possible workaround including Focus Release and 40fps won't help you here, it just simply does a bad job on the Z axis for closer subjects.
At this point in time, it is acceptable to leave Fujifilm based around specific AF requirements. There's not else much to complain about, but it is a real damn shame that they cannot improve it (and even worse they have crippled the AF performance with their Kaizen approach :S).
Yeah, it's really a shame because I was a Fujifilm user for years and really liked their film simulation approach. However, I can't afford any mistakes, and unfortunately, the current generation still makes too many errors. Even professional Fujifilm wedding photographers avoid the AF-C mode as much as they can. I've also heard from various comments here that the latest update has even made the camera worse... So, I'm glad I switched in time before the performance deteriorated even further. 😅
Early 2020 I decided to start my photography world all over again, moving away from Canon, so I always dreamt of having a Fuji camera and I bought the XT3 , but because I also always wished having a full-frame camera too, after some thoughts I went for the Sony 7AIII (at the time it seemed the best overall choice for a full-frame camera/brand). In 2022 I also added the XT4 to my list, because at the time I still believed that I was a Fujifilm fanboy first, and Sony would be my "back-up" system. Well, the fact that the XT3 and Sony came out in 2018, the XT4 even in 2020, but that today my Sony has worked it's way up, and turned out to be still as relevant as in it's first year, the Fujifilm cameras not so much after all. First reason, the choice and quality of the lenses, I believed I would be better and cheaper off with APS-C lenses VS Sony Full-Frame lenses. Wrong, the choice and quality of the lenses for my Sony camera proved to be much superior. It wasn't planned to turn out like this, Fuji was supposed to be my go-to gear, but the first trip I did with both Fuji and Sony, I was completely sold to my Sony system and I won't change that perception. I will continue to use Fujifilm cameras, but for smaller work, like daytime street photgraphy because the film simulations remain the main aspect I like and prefer about Fujifilm. Next up, I want to beef up my Sony gear with a Sony 7AIV of my own. :))
That's true! One would think APS-C lenses are cheaper, but those solid Sigma lenses often outpace the Fuji equivalents in price. The A7IV’s image profiles are also pretty good and can be adjusted nicely, which might make Fuji less appealing for you. Personally, I enjoy the Sony profiles when tailored to taste!
I'm still loyal to my micro 4/3's Lumix cameras but work on a Sony so I too, feel your pain. Humorous video loved the presentation style.
The Sony movie studio is literally a separate company from the Sony camera company, one is based in Los Angeles and the other is based in Japan. If you can say that they’re not focused because they’re in different businesses then you can say the exact same about canon since they make printers, scanners, and other non-photography products.
Yes, that's probably true. The difference, however, is that Canon products mainly come from the field of photography, as you just mentioned, like printers and scanners. Sony, on the other hand, was initially a technology company, and only later did cameras come into the picture. When I say Canon, most people usually think of cameras first, and when I say Sony, most people tend to think of PlayStation or TVs. Sony even has a car in development....
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel well canon makes other products that aren’t photography related, I just mentioned a few that are, but they also make calculators, and then tons of other business oriented products, including semiconductor machines and all kinds of other weird stuff - if you go to their website you can see under the “business” tab at the top, so they’re far from just a photography company. I just think these companies are fairly segmented and I don’t think the Sony movie business has any connection to the Sony television or photography business. And like you pointed out Sony didn’t just step into the photo industry themselves, they bought a company that had a lot of history and legacy in optics, and they didn’t even buy the entire company of Konica minolta, they only bought their consumer photography business, the rest of the company still exists doing other stuff to this day, like printers and office solutions, so that conpany was similarly structured in different business units. Panasonic is too, so I think if we want to talk about who is the most focused on photography, I guess it would be Nikon?
For important work, I only shoot with my good old Sony A7RIII - from everything I saw after that, it couldn’t get much better in terms of picture quality. And AF is reliable for every wedding scene, also dancing in dim light. I like that camera as a workhorse, even if I don’t like it as a camera you want to play with and go out.
And that’s what I like my Fuji. I never tried to take it for wedding or client work, because I am still looking for best practices.
My best and most reliable AF lens is my 35mm F2 which nails nearly every shot. Maybe it’s because of it is a slower lens.
Yep, the Sonys are real workhorses but somehow so soulless. I can't describe it any other way. Maybe I'll do like you and get a Fuji to play with for everyday use. :D
I have the XH2S and luckily I haven't had to deal with the AF in video as I use manual cine lenses exclusively for that part of my work. However, the AF performance for photo has been a bit dodgy at times and outright shit other times. I would use eye tracking AF, the camera would show the green boxes locked on, take a few shots and would see photos slightly out of focus, or focused on the eye brow or eye lashes instead of the iris. I'm using native Fuji lenses too- 23 1.4 WR, 56 1.2 WR and the 35 1.4. Still poor performance in stills. The firmware updates seem to not make much of a difference or complete break the AF in other regaurds.
This does not inspire confidence, especially for paid work. I want my tools to work like advertised. I have resorted to using manual focus at time for stills, but doing though sucks with focus-by-wire lenses.
I have now moved my stills work to Nikon and haven't had any issues at all. They might not be as fun (the ZF is still fun as hell), but I can rely on them and they are consistant.
Using only MF is probably the best way to use a Fuji. :D Many people downgrade their X-H2s to version 1.0 because the AF is much better in direct comparison. No idea why Fuji messed up the AF-C so badly. As you said, you just can't trust the camera when random shots are simply out of focus. I think you're better off with Nikon. Nikon is really strong in the video sector too.
I switched from Sony A7III to the Fuji XT4 and back to the Sony A7IV. Never going back. Sony best reliable hybrid camera 🙏
I think so too. Definitely one of the best cameras for working.
Sony has created a generation of button pushers (and more photographers) who think that autofocus is the be-all and end-all of hardware. There were wedding and sports photographers long before the PlayStation maker.
It's a shame to see so many people succumbing to the lure of the electronics guy.
Thanks.
Autofocus has naturally led to an increase in people who might not be suited for professional work. What I couldn’t stand was that even when the Fuji indicated that images were in focus, many of them turned out to be out of focus in the end. Unfortunately, you couldn’t trust the camera.
I would therefore prefer to photograph a wedding with a Leica M rather than with a camera that tells you it’s in focus but turns out not to be. Without modern autofocus features, you shoot differently-less flexibly, and often from the move with more depth of field to compensate for focus errors.
Great video and confirms my findings as well. I feel Sony has no soul like Fuji but the final image is what counts. And then there is the price difference but that is another video... Great channel!
Thanks, when you're working commercially, it doesn't really matter if the camera has "soul." Yeah, the price difference for "pro" gear is actually cheaper with Sony, especially if you use third-party lenses. Lol.
Checking back in!! :) how’s it working out? I recently realized on my Sony as long as i tone shift my white balance I’m pretty happy. Something I never had to think about on my fuuuujjj :)
So far everything is okay. Autofocus is reliable and I don't worry about it at all anymore, which is great. However, I already broke my A7RV. The touch layer of the touchscreen is damaged, and the front dial is somehow misaligned.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel what!!! How in the heck did you do that?
Also how are you feeling about coloring grading/editing the files so far?
Long time XT user - finally decided to buy new Fuji gear two weeks ago. Love the look and feel of the XT5, the grip of the X-H2. Buffer on the X-T5 is shit and the X-H2 autofocus after the update got worse somehow. Did a long shoot this last week and 250/1100 shots aren’t focused… needless to say I’m returning the X-H2 and grabbing a Sony A7IV tomorrow.
Then you were lucky to notice in time that you could still return your cameras. The A7IV will not disappoint you, at least when it comes to focus.
I was doing to similar tests with my S5II at firmware v3. I tried every single possible combinations of AF settings using 50mm f/1.8 lens and the keep rate was 50% at its best. If different conditions are considered, the rate can easily go beyond 30%. If the hit rate was consistent and above a reasonable percentage, I would keep it. Anyways, I liked your testing methodology, which convinced me to return S5II and get Sony A7 IV or A7C II.
Hmm, that still surprises me a bit. I had the Leica Q3, and during a shoot with a lot of movement, the Summilux had almost no out-of-focus shots. Maybe try testing again with a different lens, as the lens contributes a lot to autofocus performance. Otherwise, better go with a newer generation Sony like the A7CII or wait a bit for the A7V.
Ich bin gerade auf dein Video gestoßen, weil ich auch überlege meine XT5 für eine Sony7iii zu tauschen.... Ich bin ebenfalls Hochzeitsfotografin und, obwohl ich meine XT5 und Fuji liebe, hab ich oft das Gefühl, dass die für die schwierigen Bedingungen einer Hochzeit nicht gemacht ist. mir gefallen die high iso Bilder überhaupt nicht. Es ist so matschig und die Hauttöne verschwimmen mit den Augen. Eine kurze frage: Hat deine xt5 auf lange gebraucht, um sich zu "erholen", wenn man ganz viele shots hintereinander gemacht hat?
If you want to get a Sony, you might as well go for the A7IV; they’re often practically given away during Black Friday. The reason your X-T5 takes a long time after a series of shots could be that your SD card has too slow write speeds. This would result in a longer writing process.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel thank you very much for the advice! I think I will have look in November for it!
Agree. I have a fujifilm system love the images but refuse to upgrade until they supply decent autofocus. I can buy latest sony A6700 with lens instead of latest fujifilm XT5. Going to change systems.
I also had the X-S10. Great camera in AF-S. :D Canon are a**holes with their closed mount. The X-T6 will take a really long time to come out. If you need a camera now, I would go for the A7CII or wait for the A7V. Those would be the current generation.
@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Canon being closed RF mount isn't the best and NEARLY deterred me. But, as I just shoot for fun I bought the R6MII after a lot of consideration. The RF 50mm f1.8 is great, the RF 16mm f2.8 is great, the RF 100-400mm is fantastic, and the RF 24-105mm f4 L is an incredible video lens and parfocal. None of these lenses are expensive, all but 1 are super light, and they cover the bases until the mount is fully open. The AF is ridiculous, the battery lasts forever, and the camera communicates with the Godox flash fully for ISO adjustments and screen brightness, which no Fuji can do. The Canon isn't perfect and the Fuji has redeeming qualities, but the Canon is simply better.
I love a slow pace when taking images. Can't get any slower than using a GFX 100s ii. But the photos are only beaten by Hasselblad.
It’s really nice when you can take your time for photography and compositions. Unfortunately, you don’t always have that luxury. I photograph many weddings, and I would be completely lost with a medium format camera for documentation. :D
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I agree. If I was into wedding photography I would most likely go with the R5 ii. I used to use a 5D iv but the new mirrorless are just amazing for the job.
I considered Fujifilm as an alternative for a6700, because of bigger resolution and some other features. But cannot use camera which doesn’t have good autofocus, it’s crucial for event photography and videos. Fujifilm seemed very appealing alternative. It’s fine for landscape and architecture photography. Regardless of camera companies claiming that they have superior camera actually cameras of any manufacturer are lacking on some areas. Will be very interesting when DJI’s camera comes to market.
As a fun camera, Fujis are really great, but for commercial stuff, as you've noticed yourself, I think it's better to go with other cameras. Unless you're photographing things that don't move quickly. I've also heard about the DJI camera, and I'm curious to see what they'll bring out, since they already have quite a bit of experience in the field and can tap into a lot of R&D with Hasselblad.
Indeed, unfortunately Fuji autofocus isn’t good enough for a lot of professional situations. I keep a Sony and Fuji system, and reserve the Fuji for subjects that are still or for manual focus.
Yeah, I think with the next generation they could reach a good level. By then, Sony will probably have surpassed Fuji again.
I am at the same spot and I am desperate, first I thought I am just bad at taking pictures but now I had a Sony in my hand and realised I am awesome but my autofocus is as dysfunctional as me during PMS. Luckily I paid off the camera in three months after two years to get completely new gear 🥲🥲🥲 my credit card is cheering, I will cry now into my pillow. Thank you for your video
Sometimes it’s your skill, sometimes it’s the camera. It’s hard to tell what it is sometimes. I know a guy who bought a Sony A1 just to rule out that the camera was the problem. LOL
But you don’t have to sell your gear right away. It’s best to learn to work with the limitations. That will help you become a better photographer. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel thank you for your answer! Really appreciate and saw your update that your Sony broke down. I am waiting for your update. I am (un)patiently waiting on the new autofocus update for the xt5
Trialled a Sony A7iv, then a Fuji X-H2. Bought the X-H2 because despite the Sony AF being light years better than the Fuji's, I just preferred the Fuji as a camera. Now have an OM-1Mk2 on my desk to see how that's stacks up with AF before making a decision on whether to ditch Fuji for OMDS, or ditch them both for Sony and accept that the camera I don't really want is actually the best for what I need (which is simply a decent camera to keep up with life, and my kids refusing to stay still for photos!).
I can suggest you try the Panasonic S5II. It has access to all Sigma lenses and a pretty good autofocus. By the way, Nikon is also not bad, especially the Zf could be interesting. 😄 Maybe you'll find the right camera for you then
I am in the same boat. I went with the A7III, for now. I am still gonna keep my Fuji gear and hope for a new firmware fix, or maybe the next gen will be better. 🤷🏻♂️
I can definitely imagine that Fuji will get this under control in the next generation. It's theoretically the only major weakness they still have.
I am a "Fuji fanboy" I guess but, I'm a realist more I think . So, you need what works best for you. Especially when money is involed . The people that say it's you and not the gear, just like to tinker. Out of the box the Sony just works with a lot less tinkering . I love my X-H2s and my X-S20 but, I can't say they havent let me down a few times. I also have an A7 IV because I shot a sweet 16 next to my brother , he was using the A7 IV and i was using the X-T4 and X-H2s . I had so many shots out of focus I felt horrible delivering the photos. So, I bought an A7 IV for my paid gigs. I love using my fuji gear for my RUclips channel and family stuff.
Sometimes you realize how good or bad a device is when you see it in direct comparison. I had the X-S10 from the start for my channel and always thought it had top autofocus until I really had to work with it. But now you have an A7IV, so you don't have to fear any gig anymore. :D
4:28 an APSC camera's noise performance is always 1 stop below a FF sensor camera of the same era. This is simple physics of the nature of light and noise (see total amount of light). Anyhow, I fully understand your preferences: honestly in 2024, if a professional phtographer came to my daughter's wedding with an APS-C camera, with inferior AF, I'd pick another photog with the proper equipment. Bird photography, sports photography, these are not for Fujifilm. Fujifilm is for hobby shooters like me, I don't need the crazy performance of AF of Sony cameras, instead, I love the film simulation dial on the X-T50 immensely, the possibility to print directly onto an Instax printer., shutter speed dial. These are the "gimmicky features" I love with Fujifilm. I used to have a high quality tilt-shift (F - X) adapter and it was enormous fun to shoot with Nikon F lenses on my Fujifilm camera.
For the weddings I attend, I really sometimes need every bit of light I can get. Unfortunately, APS-C isn't enough in so many situations that I had to switch whether I wanted to or not. I also think that at some point in the future, I'll buy another Fujifilm just for fun, but from the next generation. 😅
Being able to send directly to an Instax printer is really cool, of course.
Ich liebe die Fuji Jpeg Farben, aber der AF ist einfach nicht auf der Höhe der Zeit. Und in Fujiforen bekommt man dann zu hören, dass Fotografieren mit Fuji halt noch Sachverstand erfordert, während mit Sony und co. Jeder Amateur fotografieren könne 😂. Ich hab ne kleine günstige Fuji behalten wegen der Filmsimulationen. Wenn ich sicher sein will, dass der AF sitzt, dann nehm ich die A7IV
Jau, die vielfalt der Farboptionen ist bei Fuji echt nicht zu schlagen. Ich denke nicht das man mit Fuji mehr Sachverstand braucht wenn man alles auf Auto stellt ist jede Kamera selbst eine Filmkamera von jeden Amateur relativ einfach zu benutzen. :D Maximal eine für eine digitale Leica M bräuchte man etwas mehr wissen wegen fehlender AF funktion.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel die Antwort in Foren dreht sich in erster Linie um den AF, der genauso gut sei wie der von Sony, wenn man denn wüsste wie man ihn genau einstellen muss. Natürlich für jede Situation neun. Das Sony und Canon Kameras das auch so hinbekommen wurde dann abgetan. Das waren halt die Fujifanboys 😄😄
@@Sir_pxalot Jaja die lieben Fanboys. Theoretisch muss man wirklich für jede Situation den AF-C anders einstellen. 😅Allerdings die Fokussierung auf kurze Distanz geht leider mit keinen Preset oder Einstellung wirklich zufriedenstellend.
Die direkte Augen AF Erkennung ist aber wirklich gut und auf aktuellen Niveau nur der Rest der AF-C Systems nicht....
Welcome to Sony my friend. I don't think you will regret it :)
Oh, I think that was a good decision even though I managed to freeze the camera once. :D
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I also have the A7 IV and it's a great all-round camera. Enjoy
I'm thinking about going with Nikon or Sony. I will wait until 2025 and see what will happen.
Unfortunately, I can no longer recommend Sony without reservations. The Sony repair service in Germany is just abysmal to the point where I’m hoping no camera breaks anymore, and I’m even considering switching again.
So jetzt endlich mal Zeit für meinen Kommentar hier. Witzig das ich die Tage auf dein Video gestoßen bin.
Die ganze Fuji Thematik macht mir wirklich wirklich traurig und auch ein stück weit wütend. Ich weiß jetzt nicht ob ich ein Fuji-Fanboy bin aber ich mag das System und habe daher auch ne Xh2 und ne XH2s und oh Boy was soll ich sagen. Ich bin (jetzt erst durch das letzte Update) wieder einmal so enttäuscht von meiner Fuji XH2s das ich sie am liebsten in einen Karton packen würde und in den Nächsten Landen zum verkauf ausstellen würde. Nicht nur das Die Kamera ja mit dem AF zu kämpfen hat und da ohnehin schon hinterher hinkt, nein, jetzt haben sie es mit dem letzten Update auch noch verschlimmbessert. Was ich damit meine? Die Kamera (Beide XH2/s) zeigen dir die grüne AF box EXAKT auf dem Auge des Tier/Person/Whatever an und du denkst ja, geiler shot und dann gehts rüber zu Lightroom und du siehst okay, Fokus völlig daneben, bei fast jedem Bild. Das ist so frustrierend. Klar sagen jetzt Einige: Ja aber das ist ja nur ein Updatefehler und das wird bestimmt bald behoben usw usw, Ja klar, aber 1. Kommt mir das bei Fuji in der Spanne die ich jetzt diese Kameras besitze ein bisschen zu häufig vor und 2. Ist Gerade die XH2s Ohnehin schon trotz ihrer Tollen Hardware (Stacked-Sensor) einfach so mittelmäßig was den AF angeht das ich es kaum glauben kann und es Gefühlt mit jedem Update trotz Ankündigung gleich schlecht und/oder schlechter wird.
Ich werde immer mehr und mehr in professionelleres "Arbeiten" hinein gezogen und umso mehr das passiert, umso mehr entdecke ich die Stellen oder Bereiche in denen mich die Kamera im stich lässt. Ich meine das Ding hockt auf nem Stacked-Sensor. AUF NEM VERDAMMTEN STACKED-SENSOR und performt so unterirdisch. Das Ding ist doch von Sony gebaut oder?, sollen sie halt Geld in die Hand nehmen und sich in dem AF-Algorythmus einkaufen damit sie den verwenden können. Ich könnte selbst damit leben aber das der Fokus aktuell durch dieses miserable Update auch noch effektiv Falsch wiedergegeben wird und du dich nicht mal mehr drauf verlassen kannst das wenn du die Box aufm Auge hast und abdrückst es auch scharf ist an der Stelle... Ich merke halt einfach das die Zuverlässigkeit zu wünschen übrig lässt. Klar war/ist mir bewusst das sie kein Canon oder Sony Level hat, aber gefühlt hinkt die Kamera 4-5 Jahre hinterher. Eine Sony Alpha 7IV Die IMMERNOCH den alten bzw. nicht den neuen AF-Algorythmus der R7V oder der Alpha 6700 nutzt macht das um längen besser. Auch nicht perfekt klar, aber besser. Sehr viel besser. Und die hat keinen Stacked-Sensor.
Ich kann deinen Schritt wirklich wirklich nachvollziehen und ich denke für meine "Profesionellen" Arbeiten werde ich mir auch auf kurz oder Lang eine Sony zulegen. Entweder auch ne A7IV oder ich warte, denn die A7V wartet auch schon an der nächsten Ecke (denke ende des Jahre kommt da die Ankündigung) und ich werde mich ins Sony-Lager begeben weil sie einfach abliefern und der E-Mount allgemein auch nicht unattraktiv ist mit seiner großen Objektivvielfalt.
Ich werde da zwar denke ich einiges Vermissen was ich jetzt bei der Fuji habe, aber die Zuverlässigkeit spielt da einfach eine zu große Rolle, besonders wenns bei Events einfach sitzen muss.
Beste grüße meinerseits an dich, Mach weiterhin so gute Videos. Ich freue mich aufs Nächste, Abo und Like sind raus ;)
Du bist schon der zweite der mir über dieses ominöse update berichtet das den AF komplett zerstört. Dann kann Fuji froh sein das ich diese update noch nicht gemacht habe sonst wären die Ergebnisse vielleicht sogar noch schlimmer. 😅
Fuji ist eine der wenigen firmen die ihre Sensoren noch selbst herstellt (bis auf GFX die sind von Sony). Also selbst wenn sie es kaufen könnten würde Sony sicherlich ihre goldene Gans herausrücken und den AF Algorithmus verkaufen. Die Fuji fühlt sich aber wirklich noch an als würde sie zwei Generation hinter Sony hinterherhinken.
Da ich mir zwischenzeitlich die A7RV gekauft habe und meine Frau die A7IV benutzt kann ich dir sagen. warte lieber auf die A7V. Es lohnt sich denn der AF ist nochmal eine ganze ecke besser geworden.
Danke dir übrigens für die Unterstüzung. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Ja, ich denke sollte ich wirklich den Schritt zu sony machen werde ich auf die a7v warten, hab schon oft gehört das der "neue" af nochmal ne ganze ecke mehr reist. schade das ich mir darüber gedanken machen muss/will weil fuji einfach scheinbar nicht ihre hausaufgaben macht.
Philip Bloom has a pretty interesting video about Fujifilm autofocus. He only tried videos. He makes dry, diplomatic remarks about the focus quality. His video contains an interesting revelation about the role of lenses in the autofocus problem. It appears that lens has a significant impact on autofocus quality. Based on his comparison, it is clear that there will be no fixes for current Fujifilm cameras and lenses due to hardware limitations. Only a very small number of current lenses may benefit from future firmware updates.
Sounds like an interesting video that I’ll have to check out. 👌 As a loyal viewer of Christopher Frost, I’ve thought about this too, especially since I used the brand new XF lenses with linear motors for my test. I don’t think we’ll see better lenses in the next 5-10 years.
Personally, I don’t think it’s the lenses that are the issue. In photo mode, it seems to me that the algorithm simply can’t keep up with the speed changes of the object it’s tracking. This might also be because Fuji has far too few focus points to accurately gauge distance. Sony has almost double that in the A7IV. Add to that a mediocre algorithm, and you end up with the problem.
Even Fujifilm may not fully understand their unreliable autofocus 😂. The worst part is that they remain silent. They could be truthful. Sony cameras now have a focus map, which is a very useful feature in some circumstances. However, based on this feature, we can conclude that Sony cameras can give better instructions to their lenses, reducing the need for hunting. A couple of days ago, I was shooting with a Canon eos 300, which reminded me of how accustomed I have become to modern Sony autofocus. The only feature I missed while shooting on film was modern autofocus.
For wedding photography I too would use Sony. AF speed and accuracy is just too important.
Exactly. It would be a shame if you couldn't take important pictures because the autofocus is being finicky.
And yet....I just use one point center focus. Don't need AI focus or track focus or spray and pray...Just a sense of observation and anticipation.
Same thing is happening to me right now - X-H2 will have to go and A7C2 will join me on my journey 🤷♂️
Btw.: I often hear people complaining about the sony colors, is it true? Green skin tones etc.?
It's harder to get good JPEGs out of the Sony, but at least with the newer cameras, you can't complain about skin tones. They fixed that with the A7SIII. In RAW, you don't have any problems with that anyway.
I thought and still think the same as you: SONY is not known as a traditional camera manufacturer. But I shoot with Panasonic Lumix (currently S5 II), so it's also not a traditional camera manufacturer. What I don't like about SONY cameras is the haptics and ergonomics. Yes, they are class leading in speed and AF-performance but I do not need the best AF-system for my style of photography. Panasonic is catching up and I like their strategy producing compact and leightweight lenses - and L-Mount is great. I also thought about Canon and fully agree with you: as long as the RF-Mount can only be used with original Canon-lenses or adapted ones, I would never switch to Canon.
You've had already trouble with Leica, I hope, you'll be glad with SONY. Have fun!
Oh, the Panasonic S5II is a fantastic camera. If I were only shooting videos, that would be my absolute first choice. The autofocus is the same as in the Q3, and I had no problems with it either. Thanks to the L-Mount Alliance, you can also use Sigma lenses, which is a big advantage. The box tracking isn't nearly as good as on Sony, but that would be my only complaint.
By the way, I already broke my Sony. :D
It froze, and now the touchscreen isn't working properly. lol
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Oh dear, you seem to have a lot of trouble with your cameras. I hope you get this fixed and will be fine for a long time.
I feel same ashamed as you for looking to Sony (due to its AF-performance) 🙃. Was looking too much and finally ordered. It depends on its ergonomics and operational handling if I really take this step changing camera system. AF-performance is not everything but the S5II is still lacking behind my expectations. Sometimes there isn't any challenging situation and the AF fails (e.g. people wearing glasses, hair in front of the eyes, playing children, whatever). I will check the A7RV+24-105 F4 and then decide.....
Have done some comparisons. It's a pity but it's true. The AF-performance and -accuracy of the A7R5 is near perfect....in opposite to the S5II...there you need best conditions and sometimes luck.
tnanks bro. This is a unique test
You're welcome ✌️
I noticed in your testing with shooting that you’re using mechanical shutter… does this. It hamper the continuous AF, where choosing electronic shutter and even boosting it, would give you better tracking and consequently focused shots?
No difference.
I've already tried that, but no. Unfortunately, it doesn't make a difference.
The only focus mode that works almost perfectly on the Fuji is the area mode with object tracking, out of every 100 photos it gets at least 95 right, the other focus modes are really very bad. Fuji unfortunately doesn't have the ability to create a good focus system.
I also searched for many other wedding photographers on RUclips to see how they solve the AF-C problem... by only using AF-S... if your focus system is so bad that professional photographers completely avoid it. 😅
Using fujifilm xt3 + XF 35 f1.4 as hobby.
No complain… even that combination make the AF more slower. And yet still enjoying to shoot photos
If i had more money and need reliable camera. No doubt to buy better spec camera
I also once had the X-E3 which was absolutely fantastic. If you don't need AF-C, even older cameras are completely sufficient. 👌
How’s your experience with the braking shutter problem on Sony Camras. That is the only reason I left Sony.
I’ll put it this way: My A7RV managed to last just about 2 months before breaking. The repair service then claimed there was water damage, which wasn’t even there, and I had to pay €350 before they actually dealt with the real issue. All in all, after the ordeal with the German repair service, I can only advise against buying a Sony. By the way, I’m making my own video about it.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel, that is so sad to hear! I've been using Sony cameras for years outside, and they've never broken down. I've heard that "water inside the camera" has become a popular excuse for avoiding replacing the camera throughout the warranty term. Consumers cannot prove otherwise either. 😢
I have Sony and Fuji and completely agree with your video. The Sony just does what you expect but it’s not fun. Fuji does what it wants but it’s fun af.
I agree with you. Nothing beats the fun of a Fuji camera, but unfortunately, that's not always everything.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel What is the definition of fun you are talking about? I don't find "checking the photos after the shot to realize half of them are unusable because nothing in focus" is fun to me. I used the Xt3 with 56mm 1.2, now I wait for my a6700 with Sony e 35mm 1.8 oss.
I love the fuji colours and have built a brand round that and it does stand out form the crowd and my editing style can kind of make the Sony files sing but I need to time with them do so. Im at point where I have done the same test as you and its always the last few pictures as you get closer to the camera and you're face detect does get more in focus.
I dont think its the fact fuji is bad its the fact that Sony is spectacular AF wise you can just let the camera do its thing. And if they can do it should everyone?
But I am on the verge of selling everything I shouldn't loose much money if any as I buy everything sound hand
If you're not sure yet whether you should sell everything, then it's better to wait. Maybe it's also a good idea to have both systems and use specific cameras for certain situations. For jobs, for example, just take both with you and use Fuji for the majority and only use Sony for movements so you don't have so much post-processing work. That's what I would have done if I had worked alone, but it didn't work out with my wife.
I'm also a Fuji shooter who was forced to buy a Sony for the autofocus and narrower depth-of-field. Yeah, Sony is better for sports and low-light. The difference is obvious. But Fuji ergonomics and colors are superior.
That's true. Fuji really knows how to make cameras ergonomic. The X100VI is also so comfortable compared to the Sony grips.
I feel your pain when it comes to fuji's unreliable AF. i switched to fuji in 2018 because nikon was late in the mirrorless game. Just a week ago i sold all of my fuji gear and got the Z9. Why? For all the AF issues you have mentioned in your video. I shoot my very active 2.5yo son almost everyday and i really need good AF-C accuracy. When i work at the studio, one of fuji's sharpest lens, The One 50mm f1.0, can't even keep up when the models/clients change poses quickly. So yeah, i loved fuji's ergonomics and color science but they really need to improve AF accuracy and make only LM lenses. Why not Sony one may ask. I never liked Sony because of the interface though their AF system is the best in the world. Same reason goes to Canon. It's a personal preference.
Nikon would have been my choice too, right after Sony. The Z9 is a killer camera that I would also like to try out. But I can absolutely understand why someone wouldn't buy Sony because of the menu. It's absolutely ugly, although the layout itself is actually okay
I was full Fuji person I kept my GFX cameras but sold off all my x-mount to go Sony. Now I just picked up a X100VI as I really really despise the Sony colours and can't take pleasure using it. Hower, when the client mission is "don't f*ck this up. We need a photo from this and this person together" and they basically shake hands and part ways in 0,5 seconds, I'm not having any second thoughts. I'm going Sony.
That's true, at events you sometimes only have small moments for important shots, and you can't mess up, and Fuji tends to do that. Especially when it's darker. I'm glad that with Sony you don't constantly have to worry if you really got the shot.
so true i have xs10 - i am going to sony soon
I also had an X-S10, great camera but unfortunately no comparison to modern Sonys. :D
hey there BigNegative, should I grab the Sony A7iii with 3 prime lenses 35, 50 and 85mm for $1600? I am on limited budget, and as much as the aesthetics of Fujifilm XT is appealing, I do want the best/ accessories for the money. Thanks! I want to call the shot now.
Oh hey, unfortunately, I've never had an A7III, so I can't tell you how good that camera is. It also depends a lot on your shooting style and what you want to photograph. Therefore, it's really not easy for me to give you a good answer. Sorry about that.
@@premiumaccount4433 Yes. The A7III will do the job very well. But you might not love it.
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dank dir, hatte heute mal schön ausgeschlafen. 👌gate keeping ist wirklich unnötig. Da dir schlaf anscheinend recht wichtig ist wünsch ich dir auch einen guten schlaf. 👍
The only scenario where I'll pick fuji is the times where I'm lazy to edit in post/color grade.
Sony literally stomped fuji on everything else. I don't think there's any reason to pick fuji unless you're lazy to edit (which on nicer terms you can call it simplicity, shoot and be done with it, no post editing needed). And that's negated even more with their new color science releasing with A7RV and A6700
That's probably the main reason most people buy Fuji: the JPGs. Besides, I've now played around a lot with the files and even the JPG settings from Sony, and I don't find them that bad at all. Definitely much better than their reputation.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel The new color science is more vibrant and alive looking, like canon's color science now!
Previously their old color science is contrasty, and desaturated so nearly every photo looks gritty
Just dumped all of my Fuji gear and doubled down on Canon. The autofocus was a no go and left me very annoyed with my travel photos. I tried for years, Fuji!
Canon is also a good choice. ...probably when it comes to AF, any manufacturer except Fuji is a good choice...
Seems you have forgotten to switch the defaults for AF-C.
Believe me, I've tried every possible combination of AF-C settings to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. I also tried other things and settings, like different shutter modes, performance modes, and different lenses, but it always led to the same poor result. Meanwhile, with Sony, I didn't even touch the AF-C settings and got almost perfect results every time.
yeah, I have X-T3 and thinking about switching to Sony for exactly the same reason
but there's also new updates of Lumix S5IIx and I'm more on the video shooting side
and there's bunch of functions absent in Sony that I really like and need, and only appear in much more expensive models....
If you're going to make more videos anyway, you'd better go with the Lumix S5II; it's much better suited for that and has many more options for filmmakers.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I found that I like film photography more, and do some street photography as well, hence the need for better AF, but idk if AF in recent Lumix cameras are better
@@quite1enough I had the Leica Q3 (which is essentially Panasonic software), and it had a pretty good AF-C auto eye focus. I even photographed a whole wedding with it, which was quite pleasant, and I didn't have any problems like with the Fuji. However, whether it's sufficient for street photography for you, I can't say because I don't know your style. Unfortunately, you would have to test it out yourself.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel there's also a chance that I have a bad copy :( mine was three time in service already since my purchase but it was mainly physical damages (flex cable of shutter button and command rear-dial)
@@quite1enough Oh okay, that's really a lot. I once had a broken shutter button on my X-S10. Stuff like that can happen sometimes.
Are you a wedding photographer now?
What did you use the x-t5 for before that you are now switching to Sony for weddings?
I like the FUjis, but honestly, Sony just offers so much more of the function. Ergonomics is just...well, a matter of taste, but you can live with it. And Canon RF Mount...yeah, I have it, miss a lot of functions my old sony a7 iii offered.
My first wedding was actually with the Leica Q3. :D It was fun, and even that had better eye autofocus than the X-H2, which I then used for it. At every wedding, there was always a moment when the AF failed, which annoyed me so much that I got the A7IV.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Nice. And in terms of color, fast editing the Sony RAW Files? Any Problems, differences in skin tones so far?
@@tobis2265 I'd say Sony colors are better than their reputation. The RAWs are really easy to edit and have a ton of dynamic range. I believe the skin tones were adjusted with the A7SIII and look very authentic. From that perspective, I can't complain.
Is frustrating that with autofocus so advanced now that Fuji cannot match Sony. So many people love the analogue style of camera but can be put off by these shortcomings
Yeah, I would have loved to keep the X-T5, but unfortunately, the way I work doesn't allow it. The AF-S is really great though. Sony could release a retro camera, I think they would find a lot of buyers there.
Nonsense.
@@r423sdex As you wish. I mean, I provided clear video evidence in the end that the camera couldn't handle it. Tested five times, failed to reproduce five times. Considering the sales of Fujis X100V and VI, and looking at Ricoh's delivery difficulties, the market is currently seeking exactly that.
I've done my first wedding with Nikon F2 and 24 & 50mm lenses, plus a small flash. No autofocus, automatic of any sort, nothing.
And that was 35 years ago. Nobody complained.
All your remarks about Canon are true. I'd add to that s***ty colours. I know, some people love that colour palette, but I'm not one of them.
For me, Canon's JPEG is crap, and I don't have the time to deal with RAW's, most of the time. Reason being that I've choose Fuji for colours and jpeg IQ, sooc.
I'll rather deal with imperfect autofocus (if I'll ever use it) than s***ty files I have to post process for hours without end in sight.
And I wouldn't pick Sony either. Not that Sony is making bad cameras, but my hate towards that company goes decades back.
Nothing that I ever bought from Sony works anymore, period. I feel betrayed...
Before the existence of the internet, the neighbor or a newspaper was the only comparison one had for wedding photos. So, I would estimate that the expectations were quite low back then :D That's why I'd say it's hard to compare.
If you need SOOC JPEGs, Fuji is definitely the best you can get. Your dislike for Sony is confirmed by my experience. My A7RV had a pretty annoying defect after not even 2 months. However, the repair was so disastrous that I have to make a video about it...
Is there a reason beyond AF performance or 3rd party lens availability to go with Sony? Do they make one that feels good and hand and doesn’t scrape your knuckles with a lens attached? I’m serious, Sony is a great innovative company but not really a camera company, as you said.
So, I'm almost 2 meters tall and have big hands, and I don't touch the lens with my knuckles. I think if that's an issue, Canon might be better since their cameras are quite large and offer more space.
Fujifilm would have me as a fanboy/girl for life if they fixed the AF. I invested way too much money in the brand already - had 3 of their cameras and too many lenses to count - and there is a lot to like about the images | get out of the camera - when I am able to get an image in focus..., but slowly and surely I am letting go of my gear. Not sure which brand to go to... I would likely consider an updated version of the RX1R, but the price needs to be reasonable (that camera still costs over 4000€... which is INSANE. Even the new Fujifilm cameras, the X100VI and the X-T50 are kinda over the limit for a hobbyist, so not sure who they are made for...
The prices have really exploded in recent years. The price of the new X100VI seems to be the new standard price for hobbyists, as it appears. The success of Fujifilm cameras alone gives them the confidence not to compete in the APS-C price segment of Canon and Sony anymore. I think even for 1800 or 2000, people would still buy the X100VI. Even in the unlikely event that Sony would reintroduce the R1XR, it would surely be around 4000.... Just because the A7RV costs so much.
I'm privileged but I have a Sony a7riv and a Fujifilm xe-3 (with a Fujifilm x100vi upgrade on the way....hopefully...it may get here before the end of the century). They're very different cameras for different purposes in my mind. The small Fujifilm for everyday carrying around and the Sony for when I want the hardcore powerhouse that can do anything and give me perfect shots. Why not keep both?
But the one thing Sony doesn't have on Fujifilm is the menu. It's so confusing on Sony.
Of course, you can keep both, but something like the X100VI isn't really meant for wedding photography. :D So, it makes sense to have a Sony for work and an X100 for fun. And yes, the menus are absolutely strange and ugly on Sony.
Have you retested since the last FW update ?
No, unfortunately not. I sold the cameras before the last update came out. However, some people have commented that the performance has gotten worse.
It got wooooooorse
Switched from Sony to Fuji, and then back to Sony. Sometimes you just need to take the journey 🙂
Sometimes it takes a while to reach the goal. It would have been cool if it had been a bit cheaper though. 😅
I have Canon, Nikon, Sony and Fujifilm cameras and my favourite is Fujifilm
My favorite is also Fuji, but sometimes work takes priority 🤷♂️ I'm already eyeing an X100VI 😅
German accent and unique sense of humour 😂
Haha, thank you for that! Appreciate you watching!
i use my fuji camera not profesionally but for trip and family, all my shots where kids/family run toward me are out of focus
For objects that don’t move, Fujis are really perfect. It's just a shame that family photos also turn out blurry.
Did the Xt5 have the latest 3.01 software?
The 3.01 firmware unfortunately came out after I made the video. However, I've already received two comments saying that the tracking has actually gotten worse rather than better. But I can't confirm that myself without the camera.
Fuji's AF isn't bad ... until you have experienced the real thing - Sony. I still enjoy my X-H2 when traveling. But its days may be numbered.
Hehe, absolutely. :D If you take an H2 for traveling, you can just as well take an A7IV or something similar since it's even smaller.
I recently sold my whole Sony gear and shifted to Fujifilm. Sony a7iv, sigma 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4 GM, 24mm 1.8, Tamron 17-28 f2.8😢😢😢
Ah, and are you satisfied? I’ve already seen Sony-to-Fuji switch videos where people were really happy. :D
The Fuji XT5 is a truly great camera. The compact size, the flexible display, and the controls have brought me a lot of joy. Unfortunately, in the commercial realm, I kept running into technical limitations. Since I prefer working with natural light, I had to deal with high ISO values and corresponding image noise. Of course, one could compensate for this with a flash. However, my biggest issue was also with the focus. Especially at weddings, one needs to quickly react to situations and capture moments that are quite dynamic. Here, the XT5 unfortunately let me down quite often. About 50% of the images were blurry. I don't want to select images that are technically okay, but rather the ones where everything fits for me - framing, composition, situation. Therefore, switching to Sony was also the right decision for me. 🦝
Yes, unfortunately, reliability is the most important thing in the commercial sector, even if you'd like to shoot with a special camera that sometimes has issues. But I also have to say that the X-T5 was really great.
How do professional photographers like Kevin Mullins manage to produce absolutely fabulous pictures even with the likes of xpro 1 and you can’t with an XT5?
@@Mw02veg Oh, I can do it with an X-T5, I could easily shoot a whole wedding with an M6 as well. However, just as an X-Pro 1 limits you in certain things it doesn't master, the X-T5 restricts you in certain aspects. While Canon, Nikon, and even Panasonic have figured out how to do it. Even the Leica Q3 has managed to have a more reliable AF-C at short distances. I could have lived with the limitation, but I want to choose my images based on the expression of the couples, not on 'did the AF-C hit or not.
Yeah I’m switching to Sony as well after 7 years with Fuji
Because of the firmware that has made many current cameras significantly worse, many are considering or downgrading their camera to firmware 1.0 😅
I’ve shot weddings with the XT5 and it focuses fine if you use the continuous focus and have the shutter 1/2 pressed. I’m sticking with Fuji all the way.
If you don't have a problem with it, then everything's okay. 👌 My problem is also very specific.
Defintely, you can photograph an entire wedding even with a Nikon F2, sure as was the case in the 90's.
On which firmware version of X-T5 did you test?
version 2.10 but other people mentioned it got worse with the new firmware....
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel not with X-T5. Maybe X-H and 2s.
Currently using the same D7100 I’ve used for years and years… and I know I’m stuck in the past but I love how the front and rear dials work… and using the various buttons as ‘shift’ to adjust iso / EV comp etc instantly using the same dials.
I want to go back to mirrorless (I have a Samsung NX3000 mirrorless as my first camera)…obviously not in the same league as what’s available now but one thing I remember HATING was having to go into menus for basic things, having to use the d-pad dial for shutter speed in manual mode, and having to use the live view screen to see settings that are now all visible on the LCD on top of my Nikon.
I know a Sony would be a good choice of camera… and I also love a bit of up close portrait. So what do I do? I just watched a guide on the A6500 and it looks like a massive step backwards from my D7100 in terms on usability and access to settings. This is why I’ve fancied a Fuji for a while now…. All those lovely control dials really appeal to me. I’m torn!!!
Also… all this eye tracking stuff! I know it’s been a round for a while but I’m still using the viewfinder and a single focus spot. I even use the D pad to move the spot to where I know I’m going to want it as I’m raising the camera to my eye… that’s how engrained that ‘manual’ autofocus (contradiction I know) method is in my brain. On occasions where I might sticker I occasionally use 9 focus spots but the way these cameras track subjects now blows my mind!
If you appreciate Nikon, it makes sense to stick with them, especially since their cameras haven’t changed much in terms of operation. The new Nikon Zf could be a great fit if you like Fuji’s dials-those knobs and the new focus technology are pretty impressive!
I cannot agree with this. I have no problem with Fuji AFC and i shoot figure skating shows with fast moving multiple subjects and ever changing colored lights. Have you actually tried using custom settings and not the default that you ehowed in your video! Having said this, I have no experience of Sony but for me Fuji works.
As I said, the problem only arises with very close individuals... so I don't think you're directly photographing figure skating people in close proximity. It usually works quite well from a distance. By the way, I've already tried all the AF-C presets and even a custom setting that should track people approaching slowly but even that doesn't work.
You love your Fuji's AF since you have no clue what is a high performance AF. I used to own an A9, that was brutal: 20 frames per second all in focus of airplains in a air-show.
Honesty...this is just my Biased Opinion...but if Fujifilm X Mount if they every Betray US....which they might since APS-C Size Sensor is becoming somewhat irrevelant since the camera body size of the XH2/XH2s is becoming gigantic similar to Sonys Full Frame Counterpart
I can predict 100% of Fujifilm Users will go to Sony Mount... that open mount especially Tamrons lenses are soo spectacular no offense for someone observing from the outside stadium.
Im not a Fashion Photographer/ Product Photographer so AFC/ Autofocus means nothing
However However If I start to do fashion Shoots more often high chance I will ditch Fujifilm. the Autofocus although it got better...its like 1990s vs 2010
Actually, the X-H2 is even a larger body than the A7 IV. That really surprised me when I bought the Sony. Fuji's strengths definitely lie in cameras like the X-100VI and X-E4 because of their small size. The X-T5 is right on the border. However, I find all the new 1.4 lenses to be way too big for the bodies. This makes the whole system lose its compactness. I recommend testing your new system thoroughly before switching. I trusted various RUclips reviewers and was disappointed.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel Exactly this is the reason X-T50 might be an important camera, it goes back to minimalist grip size back tilting screen to maintain a really small profile camera. Panasonic S9 seems to be an amazing camera but the no EVF, left swingout screen makes it not small any more since a left protrudind screen makes it twice as big in size.
Fuji are taking the piss with their terrible AF knowing that their fanboys will defend them no matter what. I ditched Fuji for Nikon (Z9) over a year ago and it's great to now have a system with AF that works as advertised.
The Nikon autofocus should also be significantly better, especially on the excellent Z9. I also don't understand why people energetically defend certain brands. Companies aren't interested in these fanboys.
I jumped from a7cii to xt5. and I don't regret it. I only use RAW. this camera itself takes a lot outside to take pictures. pure pleasure. sony is boring. I'm sick of this sharpness, speed etc. I had everything that was the best and newest in sony. I experienced this bottom. I lost the pleasure of photography. since I have fuji I only think about taking pictures
What I meant was that if you’re photographing for fun, Fuji is definitely a good choice because they make excellent cameras. However, if you’re working commercially and need a low autofocus error rate, Sony is the better option. I also bought an X100VI again because it's much better suited for street photography and travel.
As a canon shooter I’m looking to jump ship hard. Their super telephotos are sooo dim $2500 for a f7.1… how about a “cheap” $650 f8. It’s an obvious cash grab. When they finally let 3rd party lenses on FF they’ll release brighter versions of the lenses knowing idiots will grab them up
I don't think Canon ever plans to let 3rd party manufacturers into the RF mount. They love money way too much for that. :D The funny thing is that most Canon shooters I see are adapting old lenses rather than buying new ones. So if you're looking for affordable telephoto lenses, you'll probably have to search in the EF mount. :D
i have x-s10 and i have invested in 5 lenses - af-c is unacceptable - exactly as you presented (i am glad i haven't bought x-t5) i wish canon has so wide choice of lenses as sony... and know i am on the fence - waiting for x-t6 or buy a7 IV (i think i will go with sony)
I also had the X-S10. Great camera in AF-S. :D Canon are assholes with their closed mount. The X-T6 will take a really long time to come out. If you need a camera now, I would go for the A7CII or wait for the A7V. Those would be the current generation.
You wrong about putting Nikon 3/4 place when it comes to auto focus. U need to try the Z8/9 😂
Nikon has gotten a lot better, no question. The third place thing isn't actually my opinion but that of many RUclips reviewers. You probably only notice that Nikon is a bit weaker in a direct comparison. ✌️
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I use a a1 and a Z9. What i found out so far is that the a1 grabs the subject a tiny bit quicker but the Z9 looks a bit stickier. Maybe the lenses play into that as well. For me its a draw. And as i mentioned the lenses come into play. Nikon is probably the best in that department (esp. in the longer ones).On the other hand you can get excellent sony glass second hand. That's the reasons i keep both systems. But there is one fuji lens where there is nothing to compare with and that's the 200 2.0 which made me buy an XH2. I'll find out if it was a good decision.But the camera which i use with the at most joy is my deer old D810.
This is painful to read. I already have the Sony A7iv but I decided to buy into Fuji as well because the Sony has never inspired me, it’s a computer, a good computer, but it’s just not easy to love. Plus, it’s heavier than the xt5 as are the accompanying lenses. Consequently, I haven’t used the Sony as much as I intended to. It just doesn’t excite me. Reading others comments here it would seem I have made a mistake. What you are all saying is the Fuji looks and feels great, but it just can’t compete with the Sony.
That's true, Sony cameras are really just functional tools, and you can definitely tell that they haven't paid much attention to photography enthusiasts. If you don't need to photograph fast-moving objects or people, Fuji is definitely better.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel I'm heavily into Fuji and recently was depressing myself thinking I should take the hit and go over to Sony, but I don't actually "need" af-c ... so thanks for this comment which I'm taking as reassurance I'm with the right camera for me. I shoot dozens of recreational flower and bird photos and videos per day almost always in manual focus.
thank you
You're welcome.
''But the colors!'' 😂
Yeah, i had to make some sacrifices. :D
Did you do this test with latest firmware update on the X-T5? After the update I've seen a huge improvement in AFC and Eye tracking with my X-T5 (but far from perfect yet...)
Yeah, it was the latest firmware available at that time.
You should have used same minimum foucs distance lenses+aparture and same focal length for full frame and apsc to make the experiment even more perfect. Whatever, Everyone knows, Sony got better autofocus algorithm and their processor is powerful than fuji. Even fuji fanbois will claim it also, They just move forward with it as long as it can autofocus.
Unfortunately, I only had the one lens for Sony. However, I calculated the crop factor accordingly so that the Fuji definitely didn't have a harder time. Unfortunately, I was also misled by all the RUclips reviews that say Fuji has gotten much better... not even close to the range of Sony or Canon
😔 this is so disappointing. I just wish they could fix it already i want the xh2s and use it for work
I have the feeling that it will be fixed at most in the next generation. Most people even say that it has gotten worse with the latest firmware...
If AF is critical Sony is for you. Colour science in Sonys suck. It's total mess for me to edit videos in davinci.
I just wondering how on earth photographers took tack sharp pictures back in the days without eye tracking which is a new gimmick in photography and with shitty dslrs bodies totally unreliable in AF.
How people managed it back then is easy to answer. They photographed differently. Less from movement. When I still had my Leica M11, I could have photographed a wedding with it too, but my pictures would have looked completely different. If the couple then moves towards you, you just have to use a closed aperture for greater depth of field to compensate for focus errors. :D